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People v. Brandt, 2019 IL App (4th) 180219

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THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, Plaintiff-Appellant, v. 

JOHN R. BRANDT JR., Defendant-Appellee.

District & No. Fourth District

Docket No. 4-18-0219

Filed April 2, 2019

Decision Under 

Review

Appeal from the Circuit Court of Jersey County, No. 15-CF-49; the 

Hon. Eric S. Pistorius, Judge, presiding.

Judgment Reversed and remanded.

Counsel on

Appeal

Benjamin L. Goetten, State’s Attorney, of Jerseyville (Patrick Delfino 

and David J. Robinson, of State’s Attorneys Appellate Prosecutor’s 

Office, of counsel), for the People.

Michael J. Mettes and Jessica M. Hathaway, of Rosenblum, Schwartz, 

& Fry, P.C., of St. Louis, Missouri, for appellee.

Panel JUSTICE KNECHT delivered the judgment of the court, with 

opinion.

Justices Steigmann and DeArmond concurred in the judgment and 

opinion.
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 OPINION 

¶ 1 The State charged defendant, John R. Brandt Jr., with unlawful possession with intent to 

deliver a controlled substance and unlawful possession with intent to deliver cannabis. 

Defendant filed a motion seeking to suppress evidence obtained from the execution of a 

search warrant on his home, arguing probable cause did not exist for the issuance of the 

warrant. After a hearing, the Jersey County circuit court granted defendant’s motion. The 

State appeals, arguing the court’s decision was in error. We reverse and remand for further 

proceedings. 

¶ 2 I. BACKGROUND 

¶ 3 A. Search Warrant 

¶ 4 On April 2, 2015, Inspector Mike Ringhausen, an officer with the South Central Illinois 

Drug Task Force (Task Force), filed an affidavit and complaint seeking a warrant to search 

defendant’s home and to seize any items related to the unlawful possession or production of 

cannabis. The affidavit and complaint relied, in part, on the fact an officer detected the odor 

of cannabis during a “knock and talk” at defendant’s home. Judge Pistorius issued the 

requested search warrant, which was executed that same day. 

¶ 5 B. Information 

¶ 6 On April 6, 2015, the State charged defendant by information with unlawful possession 

with intent to deliver a controlled substance (720 ILCS 570/401(a)(2)(B) (West 2014) (a 

substance containing cocaine)) and unlawful possession with intent to deliver cannabis (720 

ILCS 550/5(d) (West 2014)). 

¶ 7 C. Motion to Quash Search Warrant and to Suppress Evidence 

¶ 8 In April 2016, defendant filed a “Motion to Quash Search Warrant and To Suppress 

Evidence.” Defendant requested, citing section 114-12 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of 

1963 (725 ILCS 5/114-12 (West 2014) (allowing for a pretrial motion “to Suppress Evidence 

Illegally Seized”)), the trial court to “quash the search warrant issued on April 2, 2015[,] and 

to suppress any and all evidence obtained from the execution of said search warrant.” In 

support, defendant argued, in part, the alleged detection of the odor of cannabis outside his 

home should not have been considered when reviewing the complaint for a search warrant, as 

it was detected during an unlawful search of the curtilage of his home and, without that 

evidence, probable cause to support the search warrant was lacking. 

¶ 9 D. Suppression Hearing 

¶ 10 Over a two-day period in August and November 2017, the trial court held a hearing on 

defendant’s motion to quash the search warrant and suppress evidence. The court heard 

testimony from Inspector Ringhausen and Master Sergeant Karen Gordon, another officer 

with the Task Force, and was presented with several photographs of defendant’s home and its 

surroundings. The following is gleaned from the evidence presented. 
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¶ 11 On March 4, 2015, Inspector Ringhausen received a phone call from an anonymous 

person who indicated defendant was in possession of drugs and selling them from his home. 

Inspector Ringhausen testified he previously received similar information. 

¶ 12 On April 2, 2015, Inspector Ringhausen decided to conduct a “knock and talk” at 

defendant’s home in hopes of obtaining defendant’s consent to search the home. Inspector 

Ringhausen, Sergeant Gordon, and Special Agent Shawn King drove to defendant’s home to 

conduct the “knock and talk.” The three officers drove in separate vehicles. 

¶ 13 Defendant’s two-story home was located along a narrow gravel road in rural Jersey 

County. Sergeant Gordon described the road as a “single road, so if someone was coming at 

you in a different direction someone would have to get off to the side.” Defendant’s home 

was situated parallel to the road. A driveway in the front of the home ran perpendicular to the 

road. The side of the home facing the road had one window on the first floor, which was 

located more towards the rear of the home. The window was to the kitchen. The area between 

the side of the home and the road was covered with gravel similar to the gravel on the road. 

The space appeared to be slightly wider than the width of a vehicle. 

¶ 14 Inspector Ringhausen testified all three officers arrived at defendant’s residence at the 

same time. Inspector Ringhausen drove the lead vehicle, with Agent King and Sergeant 

Gordon following behind. At the time of their arrival, defendant and his daughter were 

outside the home and near the front driveway. Inspector Ringhausen parked his vehicle by 

the driveway. Sergeant Gordon testified Agent King parked his vehicle “either to the right or 

behind” Inspector Ringhausen’s vehicle. Sergeant Gordon testified she “continued straight 

forward,” drove around Inspector Ringhausen’s vehicle, and then parked in the graveled area 

between the road and the side of the home. Sergeant Gordon testified she parked in that 

location because it had the “same type of gravel” as the road and she did not “want to park on 

the grass.” Inspector Ringhausen described the location where Sergeant Gordon parked her 

vehicle as “inadvertent” and a “coincidence.” After parking, the driver side of Sergeant 

Gordon’s vehicle was within several feet of the kitchen window, which was open and had a 

fan blowing outwards. 

¶ 15 Inspector Ringhausen exited his vehicle and spoke with defendant outside the home. 

Inspector Ringhausen recommended defendant send his daughter to her grandfather’s home, 

which was nearby. Defendant did so. Inspector Ringhausen explained the reason why he and 

the other officers were present. Defendant informed Inspector Ringhausen he wanted to lock 

the front door of his home, as he had dogs inside and was concerned for the officers’ safety. 

Inspector Ringhausen allowed defendant to do so. Inspector Ringhausen requested 

defendant’s driver’s license, which defendant provided. 

¶ 16 Sergeant Gordon testified she detected “[t]he smell of fresh cannabis” upon exiting her 

vehicle. Inspector Ringhausen testified Sergeant Gordon walked up during his conversation 

with defendant and asked defendant, “ ‘[W]hy would there be an odor of cannabis coming 

from within the residence?’ ” Sergeant Gordon testified she advised Inspector Ringhausen 

she detected the odor of fresh cannabis coming from the home. 

¶ 17 Inspector Ringhausen requested defendant’s consent to search the home. Defendant 

declined to give his consent and then left. 

¶ 18 Officers secured the property, and Inspector Ringhausen left to apply for a warrant to 

search the home. Inspector Ringhausen secured a search warrant. The execution of that 

warrant resulted, in part, in the discovery of a sandwich bag containing approximately nine 
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grams of cannabis in a cabinet above the kitchen window. Inspector Ringhausen and 

Sergeant Gordon did not recall whether the cannabis was sealed in the sandwich bag. 

¶ 19 E. Written Posthearing Argument 

¶ 20 Defendant filed a written posthearing argument in support of his motion to quash the 

search warrant and suppress evidence. Defendant maintained, in part, the alleged detection of 

the odor of cannabis outside his home should not have been considered when reviewing the 

complaint for a search warrant, as it was detected during an unlawful search of the curtilage 

of his home and, without that evidence, probable cause to support the search warrant was 

lacking. Defendant specifically asserted an unlawful search occurred when Sergeant Gordon 

made a “deliberate and calculated effort to surveil the interior of the residence and to obtain 

information about the contents of the residence under the guise of an innocent ‘knock and 

talk’ encounter.” In support of this assertion, defendant noted as follows: (1) “[t]here was no 

reason for the officers to approach the residence itself as the intended target of the ‘knock 

and talk’ encounter was not in the residence at the time the officers arrived,” (2) “[t]here was 

no need to park next to the window of the residence as there was plenty of space to park 

away from the residence,” and (3) “[Sergeant] Gordon stepped off the public thoroughfare 

and entered into the area immediately adjacent to the residence with neither consent nor 

warrant with the intent to gather evidence.” 

¶ 21 In response to this argument, the State asserted, in part, no evidence or testimony 

suggested Sergeant Gordon’s approach to the residence was anything other than coincidental. 

In fact, the State noted Sergeant Gordon thoroughly explained her reasoning for parking next 

to defendant’s home, which the State suggested was reasonable under the circumstances. The 

State contended the officers arrived at defendant’s home for the lawful purpose of conducting 

a “knock and talk” and entered only on to those portions of the property that appeared open 

to the public. The State analogized the area where Sergeant Gordon parked her vehicle with a 

driveway, noting its location to the road, the similarity of the gravel to the road, and the 

absence of any distinguishing characteristics between that area and the road. 

¶ 22 In reply, defendant argued the area directly outside his kitchen window was “private 

property, not accessible to the public” and the officers had no valid reason to be in that area 

when he was a distance from the home and other parking spots were available. Defendant 

maintained Sergeant Gordon “intentionally parked near the window in order to intrude into 

[his] constitutionally-protected space.” Defendant also suggested the situation presented was 

similar to the situations presented in Florida v. Jardines, 569 U.S. 1 (2013), and People v. 

Burns, 2016 IL 118973, 50 N.E.3d 610, as “the presence of multiple officers standing 

directly outside of a kitchen window” was beyond what a private citizen might expect from a 

consensual encounter. 

¶ 23 F. Written Order 

¶ 24 On February 12, 2018, the trial court entered a written order granting defendant’s motion 

to quash the search warrant and suppress evidence. In relevant part, the court ruled as 

follows: 

“[V]alidity and parameters of the [‘]knock and talk[’] were outlined by the Appellate 

Court for the Fourth District. Essentially, officers are permitted to walk to a front 

door, as are neighbors, solicitors[,] and peddlers without a warrant, knock and speak 
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to the occupants. Further, *** the officer may go beyond the front door and go to the 

back door if no one answers or there is otherwise a legitimate reason for doing so. 

The reason for this narrow view of the [‘]knock and talk[’] is that not only is an 

individual’s home protected by the [f]ourth [a]mendment, but under Illinois law, 

‘[t]he curtilage, that is, the land immediately surrounding and associated with the 

home, has been considered part of the home itself for fourth amendment purposes.’ 

People v. McNeal[,] 175 Ill.[ ]2d 335,[ ]344[, 677 N.E.2d 841, 846] (1997). Thus, 

‘[t]he government cannot search a home and its curtilage absent a warrant or some 

exception to the warrant requirement.’ People v. Pitman, 211 Ill. 2d 502, 518[, 813 

N.E.2d 93, 104] (2004); see also People v. Accardi, 284 Ill. App. 3d 31, 34[, 671 

N.E.2d 373, 375] (1996). 

 In this case, the officers arrived believing that the defendant possessed and was 

selling illegal drugs and their intent was to conduct a [‘]knock and talk.[’] However, 

when they arrived the defendant was outside his home. With photographs presented 

into evidence showing multiple places to park, [Sergeant] Gordon ‘inadvertently’ 

parked the driver’s side of her vehicle next to an open window with a fan blowing 

out. In this court’s view, this constitutes an intrusion into the curtilage of defendant’s 

home. Placing a trained drug task force officer near an open window of a home when 

the possession and sale of cannabis is suspected is, in this court’s view, akin to 

bringing a drug dog on a person’s front porch[ ] ([Jardines, 569 U.S. 1]) or on a third 

floor landing outside [a] defendant’s apartment door within a locked apartment 

building[ ] ([Burns, 2016 IL 118973]). 

 As such, this court finds that the intrusion into the curtilage of the defendant’s 

home, namely the open window, under these circumstances was unlawful and cannot 

be used to support the [s]earch [w]arrant. The court further finds that without this 

evidence the facts remaining are insufficient to support a search. Therefore, said 

[s]earch [w]arrant is quashed and the evidence gained therefrom is hereby 

suppressed.” 

¶ 25 G. Motion to Reconsider 

¶ 26 On February 26, 2018, the State filed a motion to reconsider the trial court’s order 

granting defendant’s motion to quash the search warrant and suppress evidence. The State 

argued “existing case law justified [the] officers’ presence on the property as well as the[ir] 

location on the property to conduct a ‘knock and talk.’ ”

¶ 27 H. Ruling on Motion to Reconsider 

¶ 28 Following a March 2018 hearing, the trial court denied the State’s motion to reconsider. 

In the oral pronouncement of its decision, the court stated, in part, as follows: 

“In the [m]otion the State argues that the court failed to consider that the existing case 

law justifies the officer’s presence on the property, as well as, the location on the 

property [to] conduct[ ] [a ‘knock and talk’]. The court understands the State’s 

argument and believes, yes they have a right to be present, but I think the case 

authority that the court has read and is familiar with now, suggests that they had a 

right to be on the property. They had a right to proceed to the front door as a 
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salesman, a mailman, a neighbor would do and in this set of particular facts they took 

a more circuitous route that just happened to take them by an open window with a fan 

and I felt that that. that route, when looking at the case authority involved, was 

inappropriate and improper and therefore ruled in the manner that it did. So therefore, 

while the court understands and appreciates the State’s argument in this regard[,] 

[t]he court’s [going to] deny the [m]otion to [r]econsider. Thank you.”

¶ 29 This appeal followed. 

¶ 30 II. ANALYSIS 

¶ 31 At issue is the correctness of the trial court’s order granting defendant’s motion to 

suppress. The court granted defendant’s motion based on its determination Sergeant Gordon 

detected the odor of cannabis during an unlawful intrusion into the curtilage of defendant’s 

home and, without that evidence, probable cause to support the search warrant was lacking. 

The State asserts this determination was in error, as the evidence showed Sergeant Gordon 

parked at defendant’s home for the lawful purpose of conducting a “knock and talk” and then 

plainly detected the odor of cannabis upon exiting her vehicle, which she parked in the most 

appropriate place under the totality of the circumstances. Defendant disagrees, contending 

Sergeant Gordon’s decision to park her vehicle in a nonpublic area next to an open window 

with a fan blowing out when he was standing in his front yard was an improper intrusion into 

the curtilage of his home. 

¶ 32 When reviewing a ruling on a motion to suppress evidence, we are presented with mixed 

questions of fact and law. People v. Manzo, 2018 IL 122761, ¶ 25. We will give deference to 

the trial court’s findings of fact and will reverse those findings only if they are against the 

manifest weight of the evidence. Id. Where the factual findings are accepted, we will conduct 

a de novo review of whether suppression is warranted under those facts. Id. 

¶ 33 The fourth amendment to the United States Constitution, made applicable to state 

officials through the fourteenth amendment to the United States Constitution, guarantees the 

“right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against 

unreasonable searches and seizures,” and subject to few exceptions, it requires officers to 

obtain a warrant before searching a home. U.S. Const., amend. IV; Kyllo v. United States, 533 

U.S. 27, 31 (2001). This protection extends to the home’s curtilage—the area “immediately 

surrounding and associated with the home.” Oliver v. United States, 466 U.S. 170, 180 

(1984). Relevant to this appeal, a “search” occurs “when the government engages in an 

unlicensed physical intrusion of a constitutionally protected area in order to obtain 

information.” United States v. Gutierrez, 760 F.3d 750, 753-54 (7th Cir. 2014) (citing 

Jardines, 569 U.S. at 5-6). 

¶ 34 The Supreme Court has recognized a police officer may lawfully “approach a home and 

knock” without a warrant. Jardines, 569 U.S. at 8. The Court found such an intrusion to be 

lawful given the implicit license any private citizen has to do the same. Id. This procedure 

has been referred to as a “knock and talk.” See Carroll v. Carman, 574 U.S. ___, ___, 135 S. 

Ct. 348, 350-52 (2014); People v. Kofron, 2014 IL App (5th) 130335, ¶ 24, 16 N.E.3d 371; 

People v. Woodrome, 2013 IL App (4th) 130142, ¶ 23, 996 N.E.2d 1143; People v. Redman, 

386 Ill. App. 3d 409, 418, 900 N.E.2d 1146, 1155 (2008). “The purpose of a ‘knock and talk’ 

is not to create a show of force, nor to make demands on occupants, nor to raid a residence. 

Instead, the purpose *** is to make investigatory inquiry or, if officers reasonably suspect 
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criminal activity, to gain the occupants’ consent to search.” United States v. Gomez-Moreno, 

479 F.3d 350, 355 (5th Cir. 2007), overruled on other grounds by Kentucky v. King, 563 U.S. 

452 (2011). A “knock and talk,” when performed within its proper scope, is not a search for 

fourth amendment purposes. 

¶ 35 The Supreme Court has stated complying with the terms of the traditional invitation to 

approach a home and knock “does not require fine-grained legal knowledge; it is generally 

managed without incident by the Nation’s Girl Scouts and trick-or-treaters.” Jardines, 569 

U.S. at 8. When reviewing a police officer’s actions during a “knock and talk,” our courts 

have focused the reasonableness of the officer’s actions given the totality of the 

circumstances presented. See Woodrome, 2013 IL App (4th) 130142, ¶¶ 23-28; Redman, 386 

Ill. App. 3d at 418-20; Kofron, 2014 IL App (5th) 130335, ¶¶ 24-27. We have specifically 

considered whether the manner in which an officer approached a home to conduct a “knock 

and talk” constituted “reasonable police actions.” Woodrome, 2013 IL App (4th) 130142, 

¶ 27. 

¶ 36 In this case, the trial court found the officers approached defendant’s home for the lawful 

purpose of conducting a consensual “knock and talk.” The court concluded, however, the 

manner in which Sergeant Gordon approached the home effectively transformed the lawful 

“knock and talk” into an unlawful search. The trial court reached this conclusion based on the 

following: (1) “when [the officers] arrived[,] the defendant was outside his home”; 

(2) “[w]ith photographs presented into evidence showing multiple places to park, [Sergeant] 

Gordon ‘inadvertently’ parked the driver’s side of her vehicle next to an open window with a 

fan blowing out”; (3) “[p]lacing a trained drug task force officer near an open window of a 

home when the possession and sale of cannabis is suspected is, in this court’s view, akin to 

bringing a drug dog on a person’s front porch[ ] ([Jardines, 569 U.S. 1]) or on a third floor 

landing outside [a] defendant’s apartment door within a locked apartment building[ ] ([Burns, 

2016 IL 118973])”; and (4) “[Sergeant Gordon] took a more circuitous route that just 

happened to take [her] by an open window with a fan.”

¶ 37 Initially, we outright reject the trial court’s suggestion that placing a trained drug task 

force officer near an open window of a home when the possession and sale of cannabis is 

suspected is “akin” to bringing a drug dog on a person’s front porch or on a third-floor 

landing outside an apartment door within a locked apartment building. As the State argues, a 

police officer is not a special instrument designed to sense what a human being cannot, like a 

narcotics K-9. See Jardines, 569 U.S. at 9 (“To find a visitor knocking on the door is routine 

(even if sometimes unwelcome); to spot that same visitor exploring the front path with a 

metal detector, or marching his bloodhound into the garden before saying hello and asking 

permission, would inspire most of us to—well, call the police.”).

¶ 38 Turning to the officers’ actions, the evidence showed defendant was outside his home and 

near the driveway when the officers arrived in their vehicles. At that point, the officers no 

longer had a reasonable basis to approach defendant’s home to conduct a “knock.” The 

officers could, however, approach defendant to conduct a “talk.” In order to do so, the 

officers needed to park and exit their vehicles. 

¶ 39 After Inspector Ringhausen parked his vehicle by the driveway and Agent King parked 

his vehicle “either to the right or behind” Inspector Ringhausen’s vehicle, Sergeant Gordon 

“continued straight forward,” drove around Inspector Ringhausen’s vehicle, and then parked 

in the graveled area between the road and the side of the home. Sergeant Gordon testified she 
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parked in that area because it had the “same type of gravel” as the road and she did not “want 

to park on the grass.” Inspector Ringhausen described the area where Sergeant Gordon 

parked her vehicle as “inadvertent” and a “coincidence.” The area is immediately adjacent to 

the “single road” and is covered with gravel similar to the gravel on the road. There are no 

distinguishing features between the area where Sergeant Gordon parked her vehicle and the 

road. As the State argued before the trial court, the area appears for all intents and purposes 

to be a driveway—a location where any visitor could reasonably be expected to park. The 

fact that there may have been other locations to park does not negate the reasonableness of 

Sergeant Gordon’s actions. Sergeant Gordon was in a place where she had a lawful right to 

be. 

¶ 40 Upon exiting her vehicle, Sergeant Gordon detected the odor of “fresh cannabis.” When 

an officer enters into the curtilage of a home for the lawful purpose of conducting a “knock 

and talk” and his or her movements are restricted to places visitors could be expect to go, a 

search does not occur when that officer observes what is in plain view or detects what is in 

plain smell. Redman, 386 Ill. App. 3d at 419; see also United States v. Hatfield, 333 F.3d 

1189, 1194 (10th Cir. 2003) (“[W]hen the police come on to private property to conduct an 

investigation *** and restrict their movements to places visitors could be expected to go 

([e.g.], walkways, driveways, porches), observations made from such vantage points are not 

covered by the Fourth Amendment.” (Internal quotation marks omitted.)). Because Sergeant 

Gordon plainly detected the odor of cannabis in a place where she had a lawful right to be, no 

fourth amendment violation occurred. The trial court erred in excluding this evidence when 

considering whether the search warrant was supported by probable cause. 

¶ 41 As a final matter, defendant suggests, as he did before the trial court, the amount and 

location of the cannabis discovered casts doubt on the veracity of Sergeant Gordon’s 

testimony indicating she could detect the odor of cannabis. The trial court addressed this 

argument, finding: 

“Much time has been spent by counsel for this defendant *** arguing the 

impossibility of the officers detecting the odor of cannabis when such a small amount 

was found in the kitchen near the open window. This court found the testimony of the 

officers to be based upon significant experience in the area of identifying cannabis 

and credible in their presentation to the court.”

Defendant fails to point to any evidence to suggest the court’s finding is against the manifest 

weight of the evidence. We decline to disturb the court’s credibility determination.

¶ 42 III. CONCLUSION

¶ 43 We reverse and remand for further proceedings. 

¶ 44 Reversed and remanded.