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[Congressional Record Volume 141, Number 71 (Tuesday, May 2, 1995)]
[House]
[Pages H4458-H4465]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]

                CONDEMNING THE BOMBING IN OKLAHOMA CITY

  Mr. LUCAS. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the Committee on 
the Judiciary be discharged from further consideration of the 
resolution (H. Res. 135) condemning the bombing in Oklahoma City, and 
ask for its immediate consideration.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the resolution.
  The Clerk read the resolution, as follows:

                              H. Res. 135

       Whereas on Wednesday, April 19, 1995, a car bomb exploded 
     outside the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City, 
     Oklahoma, collapsing the north face of this 9-story concrete 
     building, killing and injuring innocent and defenseless 
     children and adults;
       Whereas authorities are calling this the ``deadliest 
     terrorist attack ever on United States soil'';
       Whereas Federal law provides for the imposition of the 
     death penalty for terrorist murder; and
       Whereas additional antiterrorism measures are now pending 
     for consideration in the United States House of 
     Representatives: Now, therefore, be it
       Resolved, That the House of Representatives--
       (1) condemns, in the strongest possible terms, the heinous 
     bombing attack against innocent children and adults at the 
     Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City;
       (2) sends its heartfelt condolences to the families, 
     friends, and loved ones of those whose lives were taken away 
     by this abhorrent and cowardly act; and expresses its hopes 
     for the rapid and complete recovery of those wounded in the 
     bombing;
       (3) applauds all those courageous rescue and volunteer 
     workers who are giving unselfishly of themselves, and 
     commends all law enforcement officials who are working 
     determinedly to bring the perpetrators to justice;
       (4) supports the President's and the United States Attorney 
     General's position that Federal prosecutors will seek the 
     maximum penalty allowed by law, including the death penalty, 
     for those responsible;
       (5) commends the rapid actions taken by the President to 
     provide assistance to the victims of the explosion and for 
     promptly beginning an investigation to find the perpetrators 
     of this crime, and it urges the President to use all 
     necessary means to continue this effort until the 
     perpetrators and their accomplices are found and 
     appropriately punished; and
       (6) will expeditiously approve legislation to strengthen 
     the authority and resources of all Federal agencies involved 
     in combating such acts of terrorism.

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the 
gentleman from Oklahoma?
  There was no objection.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Oklahoma [Mr. Lucas] is 
recognized for 1 hour.

                             general leave

  Mr. LUCAS. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members may 
have 5 legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks on 
House Resolution 135.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the 
gentleman from Oklahoma?
  There was no objection.
  Mr. LUCAS. Mr. Speaker, for the purposes of debate only, I yield 30 
minutes to my friend and colleague, the senior member of the Oklahoma 
House delegation, the gentleman from Oklahoma, [Mr. Brewster], pending 
which I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, I truly wish the first bill that I had managed on the 
House floor would have been anything other than the resolution that we 
have before us today. I would like to thank the leadership on both 
sides of the aisle for allowing the House to consider this measure in 
such an expeditious manner. Over the next hour we will talk of lost 
innocence, tragedy, death, resilience, human spirit, and rebuilding. I 
thank my colleagues for taking part in this debate.
  Mr. SPEAKER, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. BREWSTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  (Mr. BREWSTER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his 
remarks.)
  Mr. BREWSTER. Mr. Speaker, it is with great sadness that we have this 
resolution before the House today. I wish we were not here. I wish the 
tragic disaster that happened last April 19, had not happened. The 
deadliest terrorist attack that ever happened on America's soil 
happened in Oklahoma city.
  This cowardly act killed more than 138 people, including 15 children. 
Over 40, including 4 children are still missing. Over 465 people were 
injured in the blast.
  Mr. Speaker, it becomes very personal when you see and know the 
individuals affected. I have lost friends, and many of my friends have 
lost loved ones. I have attended memorial services and seen the pain--
undescribable pain--on these innocent faces. Children who have lost a 
parent; parents who have lost their children. Families torn apart from 
the senseless act of terrorism.
  The healing process will be long and difficult. Just today, Mr. 
Speaker, I read a letter written by one of the victims of the bombing. 
Susan Farrell, a 37-year-old attorney for HUD who grew up in Chandler, 
OK, was in the building during the explosion. She had written me only 2 
days before the bombing asking for support for the Legal Services 
Corporation.
  The shock waves from this cowardly act will long be felt in the heart 
of Oklahomans, and in the heart of Americans. April 19 has been burned 
into our history books as a day to remember the lives lost, the 
children who never saw another birthday, the families who felt the 
pain, and the innocence left behind in Oklahoma.
  Mr. Speaker, today I stand proud to be an Oklahoman. Countless 
volunteers and workers have donated much of their time to help those 
suffering and help in the relief effort. I recall listening to those 
early news reports that continued to praise Oklahomans for being so 
kind, and reporting with shock that these citizens reached out with 
everything they had to help the victims. I was not surprised at the 
outpouring of love and support. Oklahomans are a proud and honorable 
people.
  I want to also recognize the outpouring of all Americans. Relief 
groups traveled from all over the country to help Oklahomans in their 
time of need. Those people, and their efforts will not be forgotten.
  It has been additionally heartwarming to hear the remarks by 
President Clinton, Rev. Billy Graham, Gov. Frank Keating and his wife 
Cathy, and Mayor Ron Norick throughout this tragedy. All have reached 
out to comfort and console those families and let them know this evil 
act will not be forgotten.
  Mr. Speaker, this resolution today expresses our condolences, 
sympathies, and prayer for the families of the victims, to the injured 
and also for the deceased. We pray for them and we want them to know of 
our outrage for the crime and our compassion for those individuals as 
well.
  The resolution states our strong support for the President and the 
law enforcement officials who are doing everything within their power 
to apprehend and try and punish those people who are responsible, and 
it states that we support the President and the Attorney General as 
they say this is certainly a case in which the death penalty is 
appropriate.
  This resolution also goes further to thank the volunteers and the 
countless people who have put so much into easing the pain.
  In the aftermath of this terrible tragedy, we must be very careful 
not to go too far as we respond legislatively. We cannot be too careful 
when considering legislation which impacts every American--balancing 
constitutional rights with protections needed to prevent this 
[[Page H4459]] event from happening again should be weighed very 
carefully
  Mr. Speaker, I urge this House to first focus on finding those people 
responsible and punish them as swiftly as possible. I also urge this 
House to show compassion and assistance for the families whose lives 
have been shattered by this blast, and for those families who still 
have loved ones missing in the wreckage. And, finally I urge this House 
to thank and support the law enforcement officers, rescue workers, fire 
officials, volunteers, political leaders and so many other tireless 
efforts by all Americans.
  We want them to know we support them and appreciate their efforts. We 
appreciate the sacrifices they made to show that good can overcome 
evil. I think we have seen that in my State. I am very proud of 
Oklahoma, and our country, as a result.
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  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. LUCAS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 5\1/2\ minutes to my colleague, the 
gentleman from Oklahoma [Mr. Istook].
  Mr. ISTOOK. Mr. Speaker, everyone who was in this country in 1941 
knows where they were on Pearl Harbor day. Everyone knows where they 
were when the Challenger blew up as it was launched from Cape 
Canaveral. And everyone in Oklahoma will always know where they were at 
9:02 in the morning on April 19, 1995.
  The shock from that blast was felt as far as 55 miles away. I myself 
was in a building 8 miles away and people were afraid from the shaking 
of it that it was going to come down as well.
  We have all seen the depictions on TV, in the newspapers and in 
magazines about what happened there, but it does not capture it. If 
anyone on this floor has not seen some of the pictures, I have brought 
a collection. But nothing can convey what really occurred and to how 
many people it happened.
  But if you see someone from Oklahoma with tears in their eyes right 
now, you cannot tell when it is tears of sorrow and when it is tears of 
pride. For our State, our city, our community has united like I believe 
no one has ever seen before in the face of a common disaster.
  When the workers came in, and we are so grateful they did, from 
nearby Maryland here, from Virginia, from California, from Arizona, 
from Minnesota, from Texas, from all over this country, they came 
together with help, and we say thank you. To the brave workers who were 
there on the scene, people passing by on the street that rendered 
immediate aid, that did not worry about danger to themselves, that 
rushed into the building that was still in the process of collapsing, 
and while there were fires still burning from cars that had exploded in 
the chain reaction of the blast, we say thank you.
  A plane full of doctors on their way to a meeting in Texas turned 
around and came back to help with the disaster victims. Medical 
personnel were called all over.
  Mr. Speaker, the sad thing was, after the first rush of over 400 
injured people to the hospitals, they kept waiting. They kept waiting 
in the emergency rooms, they kept waiting in the downtown area. They 
kept waiting for more victims of about 200 people still known to be 
missing and, Mr. Speaker, the other injured never came, because they 
were the ones whose bodies were left shattered and torn in the rubble.
  Our city has responded with outreach to the families, to the ones 
left behind. People could not all be rescue workers, could not all go 
down and dig through the rubble, could not all be part of the 
investigation. So they said, what do you need? Do you need people to go 
out and comfort the families? We'll do it. Do you need to take care of 
the rescue workers? We'll do it. Not out of Government response but 
just from private citizens.
  About 100,000 meals were donated, from all over the community. If the 
rescue workers needed something to pick through the rubble, whether it 
be shovels, whether it be leather gloves, knee pads because they had to 
crawl through, flashlight batteries to try to dig through the cavern 
underneath, they just mentioned it, and it materialized downtown. No 
procurement process, no worry about payback. Just private citizens 
trying to do everything they could to help.
  This is the spirit of brotherly love that we believe in in Oklahoma. 
We are grateful that all political differences were set aside. When we 
held a memorial service a week ago Sunday, the President and First Lady 
came in, half of the Cabinet came in, and they were received out of the 
respect of their concern for us and the dignity that is due their 
office.
  About 20,000 Oklahomans came together, only 11,000 could fit in the 
building, the rest had to wait outside, to honor the dead, their 
families, our State, our city, and our Nation.
  Mr. Speaker, it was not just the Federal building. We have probably 
19 buildings in downtown Oklahoma City that are going to have to be 
razed because of the structural damage. We have hundreds of others with 
degrees of damage because that was how tremendous the blast was.
  One of the saddest things may be that a church immediately across the 
street to the east of the Federal building, in the midst of the 
shattered stained glass windows and the crumbling brick, they have had 
to take a church, a house of God, a house of worship, a house of 
prayer, and use it as the morgue to take care of the victims.
  Mr. Speaker, I wear a ribbon and all true Oklahoma people are wearing 
ribbons in honor of the things that are being done. We want to say 
thank you.
  We want to say thank you for everything everyone has done. If you 
come to Oklahoma City, and I hope and pray that you will have an 
occasion to do so, to meet the people that fit the title of being in 
the heartland of America, you will find that in addition to all the 
ribbons flying, there are signs all over our town, and they say God 
bless Oklahoma City.
  Mr. Speaker, I know He does. It says above you there and above the 
flag, in God we trust. Mr. Speaker, there is no other way we could have 
made it. We want to thank the Lord, as well as the people of this 
country, for the blessings that He has given us to make it through.
  Mr. BREWSTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from 
California [Ms. Harman].
  Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Speaker, I join all my colleagues, particularly those 
from Oklahoma, in condemning of the bombing of the Federal office 
building in Oklahoma City and in support of this resolution.
  To the families and friends of the victims, I extend my heartfelt 
sympathies and those of every resident from California's South Bay. To 
the thousands of rescue workers who combed through the destruction 
looking for trapped individuals, I extend deepest thanks and 
appreciation for a job well done.
  The gentleman from Oklahoma [Mr. istook] has eloquently acknowledged 
and thanked many States for sending help. Among the rescue workers 
descending on Oklahoma City were two Torrance, CA fire fighters, Mark 
Andersen and Ian Burnett. Like hundreds of others, both men put their 
lives and safety at risk searching the devastation for victims of the 
bombing.
  But while other workers exhausted themselves cutting re-bar with bolt 
cutters in their search for survivors, Andersen and Burnett easily 
sliced through the re-bar using Life Shears, a cutting tool developed 
by Hi-Shear Technology Corp., also of Torrance. The 20-pound, 18-inch 
long tool originally was designed for the military to cut 
communications cables. Andersen worked with Hi-Shear to adapt it to 
fire and rescue work. It uses a bullet-like propellant to shoot a sharp 
blade through the re-bar.
  Rescue workers from other agencies were dazzled by the tool, so much 
so that the Federal Emergency Management Agency requested 40 additional 
Life Shears be sent to the bombing site. FEMA also advised other fire 
departments nationwide to buy the tool.
  Funding for the development of Life Shears came from the Technology 
Reinvestment Program [TRP]. It is one of the many examples of the 
application of defense technology to civilian use.
  Out of this tragedy came stories of heroism, selflessness, and 
compassion. It also became the venue for demonstrating technologies 
that can save lives.
  Mr. Speaker, let's hope we can prevent incidents of this enormity, 
but let's also pledge to be prepared in the event of any future natural 
or human-made devastation. In doing so, we can 
[[Page H4460]] save lives and ease the difficult burden of rescue 
workers.
  Mr. LUCAS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from 
Oklahoma [Mr. Watts].
  Mr. WATTS of Oklahoma. Mr. Speaker, the tragedy in Oklahoma City is 
the most horrific act of terrorism and violence ever to have occurred 
within the borders of our great Nation. I have been at the site several 
times and I have seen the destruction firsthand.
  Yesterday afternoon I made a few remarks at the funeral of a dear 
friend, Clarence Wilson, who was the general counsel for HUD there in 
Oklahoma City. We lost more than two dozen residents in my district, 
including an 18-month-old child in Chickasha, OK.
  My heart goes out to all the victims and all the people that are 
involved in this tragedy. Nothing can replace the loss, and only a lot 
of time, love, and prayers can begin to heal the wounds.
  As the father of five healthy, vibrant children, I cannot imagine 
anything worse than losing a child. The sight of the fireman carrying 
Baylee Almon will be forever etched in the minds of Americans.
  In the face of tragedy, once again the heart of this great Nation is 
shown to be strong and compassionate. The whole country has unified to 
support us, and the relief efforts have been tremendous. The support 
for our emergency service people, police, the fire, EMSA, Red Cross, 
the FBI, has been overwhelming. This has to be one of the most 
unifying, coordinated efforts we have ever seen.
  I saw America firsthand from a bird's-eye view. I saw America respond 
not as Republicans or Democrats, not as rich or poor, not as black or 
white, not as man or woman, but I saw this country respond in a 
difficult time as Americans.
  I want to say thank you, America, from the bottom of our collective 
hearts. If the perpetrators of this crime meant to send us a message, 
we have one for them: We will seek you out, and make sure you pay for 
the senseless tragedy.
  As a member of the Committee on National Security, I will work to 
make sure our security is strong within this country as well as strong 
outside of this country.
  However, one note of caution. During a senseless tragedy such as 
this, we must avoid recklessly affixing blame on people or groups who 
might be convenient targets for finger-pointing. This crime is being 
investigated by the appropriate law enforcement authorities and they 
will bring the perpetrators to justice.

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  We cannot allow the insanity of a few to become a justification for 
watering down the Bill of Rights. In short, we need to ensure that 
Washington-based elitists don't use this situation as a pretext for 
declaring open season on those with opposing views or God forbid--
establishing a police state.
  If we succumb to the fear, the bomber will have won. If we politicize 
the situation, the bomber will have won. If we abrogate our civil 
liberties and trample the Constitution, the bomber will have won. If we 
live with constant second-guessing and paranoia, the bomber will have 
won. If we allow people to label those with opposing views as 
hatemongers, the bomber wins. If we can't declare with resounding 
unanimity that this is still the greatest place in the world to live, 
the bomber will have won. We cannot allow the bomber to win.
  Mr. Speaker, I've never been more proud to be an Oklahoman and an 
American and I ask God with a prayerful heart, to give this Congress 
and the President the wisdom and understanding to act responsibly and 
decisively in the coming weeks to do our best to try and ensure that 
this will never happen again. I urge support for this resolution.
  Mr. LUCAS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from 
Oklahoma [Mr. Coburn].
  Mr. COBURN. Mr. Speaker, I have sat and listened to my colleagues say 
the things that need to be said, and to recognize both the tragedy as 
well as the compassion that came about through this land as a result of 
the bombing in Oklahoma City.
  I would reinforce what has been said in terms of our reaction, that 
it should be measured and based on facts and not on emotion.
  But I think most of all what we should recognize is what has happened 
to us with this bombing. One of the things we have done is we have 
devalued life in this country and we have brought it to a point where 
we no longer will value the lives of the very people that worked to 
make this country great.
  Those that brought about this tragedy will be found and punished. But 
we should all reflect and have some introspection on what has happened 
to us as a society as we have devalued life both at the beginning and 
at the end.
  Oklahoma will recover. Hearts will be scared and lives will be lived 
out in the memory of these individuals. But let it not be for naught. 
Let this be a turning point where we recognize that these people are no 
longer with us because of the loss of respect for human life.
  Mr. LUCAS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from 
Pennsylvania [Mr. Weldon].
  (Mr. WELDON of Pennsylvania asked and was given permission to revise 
and extend his remarks.)
  Mr. WELDON of Pennsylvania. Mr. Speaker, first I want to thank our 
colleague from Oklahoma, Mr. Lucas, for offering this resolution. I 
rise in strong support.
  Mr. Speaker, for the last 9 years in this Congress I have worked the 
issues of fire and life safety and emergency response and have been on 
every major disaster the country has had, from the Loma Prieta 
earthquake, the wildland fires, Hurricanes Hugo and Andrew, the World 
Trade Center bombing, but perhaps none has been more outrageous than 
the recent disaster in Oklahoma City. It is the worst from the 
standpoint of the outrage, Mr. Speaker, because of the way it was done, 
because of the victims upon whom this disaster was perpetrated.
  But the thing in each of these incidents and every major incident 
that the country faces every day is the same, and that is the 
dedication and tenacity of the emergency response officials in this 
country. One and one-half million men and women across America from 
Chief Morris from the Oklahoma fire department and Assistant Chief John 
Hansen were there to answer the question.
  Last Wednesday evening, as we have done for the last 7 years, we 
honored the national fire emergency responders, with 2,000 leaders from 
across the country at the Hilton here in Washington. We did a live 
video linkage with the mayor and the chief emergency response officials 
from Oklahoma City as we gave them our highest award, paying 
recognition for the work that they have done. They are typical of the 
emergency response community in this country and we need to recognize 
them.
  But, Mr. Speaker, there are lessons that we need to learn from these 
incidents. Following the World Trade Center bombing, Mr. Speaker, I 
wrote to President Clinton and asked him to convene a special task 
force on disasters in America, especially those that are caused by 
terrorism.
  The House responded. We convened a bipartisan task force that met for 
5 months last year and came up with specific recommendations.
  The day after the Oklahoma City disaster I again wrote to President 
Clinton. Mr. Speaker, I include that letter in the Record at this 
point.
  The letter referred to follows:

                                    Congress of the United States,

                                     House of Representatives,

                                   Washington, DC, April 20, 1995.
     President William Clinton,
     The White House,
     Washington, DC.
       Dear Mr. President: In light of the tragic bombing in 
     Oklahoma City, I write to urge that you convene a White House 
     Conference on Disaster Preparedness and Response and appoint 
     a Presidential Task Force to follow up with recommendations 
     for legislative and administrative action.
       As founder of the Congressional Fire and Emergency Services 
     Caucus, I have long advocated the improvement of federal 
     disaster mitigation and response. I believe we must look at 
     the situations which we have faced in past disaster 
     scenarios--from the World Trade Center and Oklahoma City to 
     the California earthquake and the Midwest floods--and apply 
     the ``lessons learned'' to future planning and response 
     efforts.
       Following the bombing of the World Trade Center, I called 
     for the creation of Disaster Task Force and laid out several 
     recommendations of my own. You may recall 
     [[Page H4461]] that Governor Mario Cuomo endorsed those 
     proposals. I also urged federal action on disaster response 
     after the California Earthquakes, Florida hurricanes and 
     Midwest floods. Congress responded by establishing a 
     bipartisan Disaster Task Force on which I served. The Task 
     Force produced numerous recommendations for improving 
     national disaster mitigation and response.
       As a result of these past efforts, FEMA is today far better 
     organized and prepared to deal with crises than it has been 
     in the past. I appreciate the Administration's support for 
     reform, and applaud you for the accomplishments to date. 
     However, as recent events indicate, much remains to be done. 
     We must build on the progress we have made and undertake a 
     broader, more comprehensive review to address a full range of 
     disasters.
       We now need to bring together top disaster planning experts 
     from across the nation with policy makers from all levels of 
     government so that we can craft recommendations for 
     increasing coordination of federal, state and local efforts 
     in mitigating and responding to natural and manmade 
     disasters, including those provoked by terrorists. I look 
     forward to your leadership and support in this regard.
           Sincerely,
                                                      Curt Weldon,
                                               Member of Congress.

  In that letter I asked the President to convene a White House 
Conference on Disasters, with a special focus on terrorism, to be 
followed by a White House executive committee that would work to 
implement legislative and administrative changes to allow us to better 
respond to disasters like this around the country.
  Mr. Speaker, FEMA has improved, and the Federal Government has 
improved, in the way that we assist local officials, but much more has 
to be done, much more can be learned, and I would hope that the best 
tribute that we could pay to all of those who fell victim to this 
terrorist act in Oklahoma City would be to put into place a process 
through which we can improve the ability for emergency responders to 
deal with similar situations in the future.
  Because, Mr. Speaker, we know there is going to be another time, we 
know there is going to be another disaster, we know there is going to 
be another bombing, and we have to be prepared to mitigate, to deal 
with, respond to, and pay for those disasters, and the best way to do 
that is to conduct an ongoing review and make comprehensive 
recommendations about that response process.
  Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleagues for yielding me the time.
  Mr. BREWSTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from 
Maryland [Mr. Hoyer].
  Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Oklahoma for 
yielding me this time.
  Mr. Speaker, I join in the sadness and sorrow of the gentleman from 
Oklahoma, and I rise to express my strong support for this resolution 
that condemns the bombing attack on the men, women, and the children of 
the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.
  This resolution sends a message that the Congress joins with the 
administration, no resolution can send it as strongly as every Member 
feels it or as every American feels it, but support for using all 
necessary means to find and bring to justice all those responsible for 
this unspeakable act.
  As a member of the Committee on Appropriations I want to express my 
commitment to providing whatever resources are necessary to bring all 
those responsible to justice. And let no one be uncertain that 
punishment for anyone else who might try such as act in the future will 
also be swift and as severe as the law allows.
  My prayers and the prayers of everybody in this Chamber and 
throughout this country are with the victims in Oklahoma, with their 
families, and with their friends and with their colleagues.
  As a longtime supporter of our Nation's civil service, I am 
especially saddened, Mr. Speaker, by the horrific impact that this 
tragedy has had on the more than 500 Federal employees who worked at 
that building, and almost 2 million more who work around this country 
on behalf of their fellow citizens.
  In my view, Mr. Speaker, Federal workers are one of our Nation's 
greatest assets. This ironically is Public Service Recognition Week, 
that special week each year when we recognize the enormous contribution 
that public employees at all levels of government make to the national 
well-being.
  Like the Federal buildings scattered throughout the Nation, the 
Murrah Building was a microcosm of government. The jobs there reflect 
the broad spectrum of services that Americans expect from the Federal 
Government:
  One hundred twenty-five workers at a Housing and Urban Development 
office to help citizens realize the greatest of Americans dreams--home 
ownership and affordable housing.
  Sixty-one Social Security Administration employees getting benefits 
out and resolving questions and problems for the citizens of Oklahoma. 
At least 11 of those employees are dead, along with many of the 
estimated 35 members of the general public who were in the Social 
Security Administration office at the time of the blast.
  Twenty-five Federal Highway Administration employees keeping 
transportation projects so critical to our economy and to our citizens 
on track.
  Twenty-two Department of Agriculture employees giving aid and 
information out to farmers so that all Americans can have affordable, 
healthy food.
  Seventeen Marine Corps employees who I am confident never thought 
that their little Oklahoma recruiting office would be blown up as if it 
were in a war zone. I understand that a group of New York firemen who 
had joined in the rescue effort, who are also Marine reservists, 
saluted as they carried one of their own from beneath the crushed 
concrete.
  And perhaps, Mr. Speaker, most disturbing, the law enforcement 
officials who were stationed in the Murrah Building from the Secret 
Service, the Customs Service, the Drug Enforcement Administration, and, 
yes, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. ATF employees 
stationed in the building not only assisted
 in the rescue efforts but have worked with ATF's two national response 
teams that were deployed to Oklahoma City immediately after the 
bombing.

  These are not nameless, faceless bureaucrats as some would project to 
the American public or folks that are just the enemy who we want to get 
who are what we want to undermine, get ride of them. America relies on 
these heads of families, these mothers of children, these children of 
others.
  Their desire, Mr. Speaker, is to serve and is exemplified by an 
incredible news clip shared with me by the Department of the Army. 
Written by Tonya Riley-Rodriguez, it reads:

       He stood beneath a tree which survived the blast and took a 
     long drink of bottled water.
       I'm going to be here until they all--come home, ``said 
     Staff Sgt. Don M. Majors, a U.S. Army nurse recruiter.
       I have worked in this building for 5\1/2\ years, and I knew 
     everybody.''
       He slipped a surgical mask back up to his sweat-and-dirt-
     covered face, ineffectually wiped at a streak of plaster on 
     his forehead, and turned to go under the collapsed building 
     again. He wasn't sure how long he had been searching that 
     day. ``Maybe 13 or 14 hours,'' he offered.

  Mr. Speaker, this is the type of dedication we have seen from so many 
people in Oklahoma City since April 19. It is the spirit that so many 
Federal workers bring to their job day after day.
  As we pass this resolution condemning this horrible act in Oklahoma 
City, I hope that all Members of this body will join with me in 
recognizing the tremendous commitment of Federal employees in Oklahoma 
City and across this Nation. And, yes, remember the brave citizens of 
Oklahoma and Oklahoma City. They are our brothers and they are our 
sisters, and if they are attacked, we are attacked. They are fellow 
Americans.
  Let them know in Oklahoma that we are with them, let them know in 
Oklahoma, my friends who represent that great State, that we will march 
with you side by side to ensure their safety and to ensure that 
whatever is within our ability to make them whole, and only God can do 
that, of course, we will do.
  I thank the gentleman for his time.

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  Mr. BREWSTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the 
gentleman from Missouri [Mr. Gephardt], the distinguished minority 
floor leader.
  [[Page H4462]] (Mr. GEPHARDT asked and was given permission to revise 
and extend his remarks.)
  Mr. GEPHARDT. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to urge my colleagues to 
support this resolution, to express the profound sadness and anger of 
this House at the bombing which shook Oklahoma City on April 19.
  Mr. Speaker, none of us in this Chamber can fully comprehend the pain 
and sorrow of those who lost friends, loved ones, and even precious 
young babies at the hands of the terrorists. To them, our words mean 
little, if anything. But hopefully our deeds will not, and we must 
pledge every measure of support and justice of which we are capable.
  But the fact is for all that was taken from us in Oklahoma City 13 
days ago, there were many things that can never be taken away, the 
courage of those who risked their lives to come to the aid of the 
victims, the fierce determination of the Government workers and 
rescuers who showed us by their service that there is something more 
meaningful in all of this than the poison of the violence and the 
destruction.
  Mr. Speaker, the attack on Oklahoma City may have been un-American, 
but the outpouring of support and help and prayer was uniquely 
American. It showed a strength of spirit that cannot be dulled by any 
injustice or any evil intent.
  But make no mistake, what happened in Oklahoma was an unforgivable 
act of cold-blooded cowardice. There is no posture or principle which 
justifies the ruthless killing of innocent people and innocent 
children. There is no cause or commitment which excuses random death 
and destruction.
  This is why we have to do more than just convict those responsible 
for this act of violence and bringing them to swift and certain severe 
punishment. We must serve warning to all who would use extremist means 
to advance their extremist thoughts and ideas: We will use the full 
force of our laws to find them, to punish them and rid our society of 
their hateful acts, and when those laws are not enough, we will write 
tough new laws to rein in their wanton bloodshed and terrorism.
  So I urge all of our Members to stand together to voice our outrage 
at this hateful action, and then with the U.S. Congress truly united in 
spirit, with our hands joined and our commitment clear, we can get down 
to the real business at hand, providing the relief that the victims of 
Oklahoma City deserve, and then passing the laws that will help make 
such atrocities a closed chapter in our Nation's history.
  As the father of three children, I cannot imagine, I cannot imagine 
the sorrow of the parents and the relatives of those children. This has 
to be the worst act of violence in the history of our country.
  It must not stand. We must find the good in this evil act, and I will 
work tirelessly with all of our Members on both sides of the aisle to 
make good of this great evil.
  Mr. LUCAS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from 
Oklahoma [Mr. Largent].
  Mr. LARGENT. Mr. Speaker, I have always been proud to call myself an 
Oklahoman, and Okie born and bred, but I do not think I have ever been 
prouder than since the time of the bombing, to see the outpouring of 
love and compassion not only for the families who lost loved ones in 
the Murrah Federal Building, but also for the compassion, love, and 
concern that has been shown by Oklahomans for rescuers that have come 
in to risk their lives in a rescue effort to find those that still 
might be found under the crumbling concrete and twisted steel, willing 
to risk life and limb to go in there, and the compassion that has been 
shown not only by Oklahomans but for Americans all across the country 
has reinstilled my faith in the things that have made this country 
great.
  In fact, I think that it has proven once again that it is oftentimes 
in tragedy like this that the American spirit is galvanized once again.
  Mr. Speaker, I would just like to say that my prayer for Oklahoma, in 
fact, for this entire country is that in reaction to the bombing that 
took place on April 19 that we would not recoil in fear, a desperate 
reaction to a desperate act, that we would not recoil in fear but, in 
fact, we would step out in faith as a
 reaction to this tragic occurrence, that we would reaffirm our faith 
in a free and open society, that we would recognize that the price of 
our freedom is also responsibility, that there is no greater country, 
no freer country, no more prosperous country in the history of this 
world than the United States.

  In closing I would say that our prayers are with those families who 
lost loved ones April 19, that they, too, would be surrounded by the 
peace that passes all understanding.
  Mr. LUCAS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, I am a proud fifth generation Oklahoman. My family has 
tilled and toiled in the soil of western Oklahoma for over 90 years.
  When you come to Oklahoma, you will encounter big-hearted folks who 
will meet you with a smile and a warm greeting on a downtown sidewalk. 
We Oklahomans are known for our perseverance, fortitude, and our 
compassion.
  We have weathered great droughts, the Great Depression, feast and 
famine, business boom and bust. Our mettle has been tested, our 
endurance challenged in good times as well as the bad. Never have these 
attributes been more evident on a local or international stage than in 
the past 13 days.
  On Wednesday morning, April 19, at 2 minutes after 9 o'clock, 
America's heartland lost its innocence. The bombing in downtown 
Oklahoma City was a cowardly act of tragic proportions with no 
justification.
  Mr. Speaker, I come here today to ask all of my colleagues to join me 
in expressing outrage at and condemnation of the bombing of the Alfred 
P. Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City.
  I pray for the hundreds of injured and their families, friends, and 
loved ones. I pray for the rescue teams, the doctors, the nurses, 
firefighters, police officers, and other volunteers from all across the 
Nation who came at their own expense and who continue to work 
tirelessly to this very hour. These are truly God's chosen people for 
Oklahoma at this time.
  And, yes, I pray for our Nation that we might be able to heal.
  So now, Mr. Speaker, I ask that my colleagues join me in sending a 
message of heartfelt condolences to the families of the 140 that have 
been confirmed lost and the dozens still missing among the rubble.
  I, like you and the Nation as a whole, will never forget that scene 
of devastation, the death, the suffering, and, most of all, the 
innocent children. I cannot begin to express the heartbreak and sense 
of helplessness one feels when faced with such a gruesome scene.
  Many mothers, fathers, grandparents, spouses, and some children are 
still missing, making it difficult, if not impossible, for our families 
and communities as a whole to bring this disaster to a close.
  So many wonderful, productive lives were destroyed. Although we know 
the children who thought they were safe in the haven of that day care 
center on the site are in God's arms now, I pray for their families. 
These were vibrant lives, some of considerable accomplishment, others 
with so much potential yet to be realized, senselessly and needlessly 
snuffed out for no just or conceivable reason.
  Let us express our hopes for a rapid and complete healing of the 
wounded.
  Let us join in commending the rapid response taken by the President 
to provide assistance to the victims and aid to our battered city. We 
commend his resolve and prompt action in the investigation, to seek, 
find, and apprehend the perpetrators of this act.
  Let us join together and send a strong and unambiguous message to any 
individual or group who may contemplate another such massacre in your 
city or town, such evil acts will not be tolerated, and to those 
involved in this horrendous act, your actions will result in your swift 
and certain punishment. We must allow no mercy to those who allowed no 
mercy to others.
  Mr. Speaker, I will close by citing a spontaneous tribute to the 
victims of this massacre which is formed along the perimeter around the 
largest crime scene in American history. A mound of wreathes and 
flowers and teddy bears and tear-stained poems have been laid 
[[Page H4463]] with origins literally from around the world paying 
tribute to the hundreds of perished and wounded.
  One particular offering which speaks, I believe, so simply, yet so 
eloquently, for all Oklahomans consists of a teddy bear with a paper 
heart attached bearing in crayon an inscription that reads as follows: 
``Oklahoma, broken-hearted, yes; broken spirit, never.''
  Ms. WATERS. Mr. Speaker, I wish to express my most profound sympathy 
for the victims of the tragic bombing in Oklahoma City during the 
congressional work period.
  I can think of no more hateful, cowardly act than to ruthlessly bomb 
a Federal building while hundreds of hard-working Americans are doing 
their jobs.
  I cannot imagine the grief, or express in words, how difficult a 
period this must be for those who knew and loved the victims of this 
terrible attack. Losing a loved one is hard no matter what the 
circumstances. The evil which led to the loss of life in Oklahoma would 
only make the grieving process more difficult.
  I am hopeful that the Federal Government will continue its swift, 
aggressive action to locate the suspects in this horrifying case. I 
join with the millions of Americans who are encouraged by the Justice 
Department's urgent efforts to see justice served. We can only hope 
that the case is solved and those who are responsible for this heinous 
crime are severely punished.
  The most important issue facing America today is the need to stop the 
violence which is tearing society apart. Violence begets violence. The 
thought that an American citizen would kill other American citizens 
defies reason and sanity. But the thought that the State, in response, 
would kill the perpetrator of this crime troubles me deeply as well.
  My thoughts are with all of those whose lives have been touched by 
this terrible tragedy.
  Mr. QUINN. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong support of House Joint 
Resolution 135, which condemns the bombing in Oklahoma City.
  This resolution condemns the terrorist-fashioned bombing of a 
downtown Federal office building in Oklahoma City, denouncing it as an 
``abhorrent act of cowardice.'' Also, the resolution expresses 
congressional support for the President's and Attorney General's 
efforts to pursue all possible means of apprehending and punishing the 
responsible parties.
  Today, I met with Congressman Bill McCollum, chairman of the House 
Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, to discuss antiterrorism legislation. 
Specifically, we conferred about my pending legislation, the Restricted 
Explosives Control Act, which I introduced in an effort to diminish the 
incidence of domestic terrorism.
  I join all of my fellow colleagues in the House of Representatives 
and extend my deepest sympathies to all of the families in Oklahoma 
City. Our prayers and thoughts will be with you all in the days and 
weeks to come.
  Mr. HYDE. Mr. Speaker, this resolution is an expression of this 
body's outrage at the manifestation of unmitigated evil that was 
visited upon Oklahoma City, its people, and our Nation on April 19.
  It also provides us with an opportunity to recognize the real spirit 
of America and the underlying greatness of this Nation. Exhibited in 
the aftermath of that horrific event was the friendship and fraternity 
of our citizens, which, sad to say, is only typically publicized in 
situations of national crisis. We need to remind ourselves that such 
acts of personal and national virtue and heroism occur daily in this 
country as Americans fulfill their obligations of citizenship, through 
voluntarism, sacrifice, and charity. When catastrophe strikes, however, 
we are refreshed by the benevolence of those acts, undertaken with 
spontaneous enthusiasm and profound grace.
  The Oklahoma City bombing has reached the heart and soul of America, 
evinced by the generous outpouring of love and prayers for the people 
of Oklahoma City and the families burdened by the scars of injury and 
death. Almost immediately hundreds of rescue workers from across 
America voluntarily flocked to that city to provide many unselfish 
hands in rescue efforts. Hundreds of Americans gather quietly near the 
Murrah building trying to do their part, however they might: through 
prayers, deeds, or both. Americans throughout this land are expressing 
their sorrow and solidarity with the people of Oklahoma City in ways 
that are at once poetic and meaningful.
  Many have sought to find an explanation for the causes for that awful 
act of cowardice, but there is really only one explanation for it: 
diabolical individuals intent on damaging society by hurting hundreds 
of innocent lives. The depraved events of Oklahoma City are a humbling 
reminder of our own vulnerability. We should abide by what Lincoln 
called the ``better angels of our nature'' and defeat the attempts to 
define ourselves by the ravings and actions of evildoers and fanatics.
  We bring this resolution to the floor to pay our respect to the 
victims of this disaster and their grieving families. The magnitude of 
their personal losses, and the violence felt by so many, dwarfs our 
effort to put emotions and empathy into words.
  Later this month, the Judiciary Committee will consider comprehensive 
legislation directed at combating terrorism from whatever source. Lest 
our people be concerned, strengthening our law enforcement capabilities 
in this regard does not require a restriction of our civil liberties 
and constitutional protections. Congress is quite capable of striking 
the delicate and necessary balance between our constitutional 
guarantees and the Government's need to secure the safety of its 
citizenry. The legislation will not work a forfeiture of our citizens' 
cherished liberties. It will honor the victims of Oklahoma City and 
will attempt to diminish the possibility of repeated terrorist attacks 
in the future.
  Mr. TEJEDA. Mr. Speaker, I join my colleagues today in supporting 
House Resolution 135, a resolution expressing this House's condemnation 
of the recent atrocity in Oklahoma City. We cannot begin to measure the 
damage from this senseless act of cowardice, but we can see the pain on 
the faces of survivors and the families of those who perished on the 
morning of April 19, 1995.
  We in the U.S. Congress express our outrage, our horror, that anyone 
could even conceive of this plan, let alone carry it out. This was not 
an attack on a building, on a faceless Government, but on its people, 
on all of us. The bombers deliberately and cruelly decided to detonate 
the bomb at a time calculated to maximize the loss of life. And that 
loss has been real and tragic.
  Our hearts go out to the people of Oklahoma who have endured the 
brunt of this tragedy. But one of the all too many who lost their lives 
that morning was a native of San Diego, TX, a small, closely-knit town 
in south Texas. Antonio C. Reyes, who was 55 years old, was identified 
this past Saturday as a victim of the bombing. Mr. Reyes served the 
U.S. Navy for more than 20 years before joining the Small Business 
Administration and then the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban 
Development. Mr. Reyes was at work on the eighth floor of the Alfred P. 
Murrah Federal Building at the time of the explosion. He gave of 
himself, not only to his country, but also to his community by 
supporting tutoring programs, local children's and music festivals, 
scholarships for Hispanic students, and community development. He was a 
leader, expressing concern for the Hispanic community through positive 
action.
  Shortly before learning that Mr. Reyes was confirmed among the dead, 
his family gathered this past Saturday night at St. Francis De Paula 
Catholic Church for a Rosario de Ragacion, praying for mercy and 
strength. His sister, Elma Garcia, still lives in San Diego, and his 
other siblings live in Corpus Christi and Alice in Texas, Phoenix, AZ, 
and Pensacola, FL. He leaves behind his wife of 35 years, Dora Reyes, a 
son and daughter, and two grandchildren. I am sure that I speak for all 
men and women of good will in this country in wishing the family our 
condolences at this terrible time.
  We cannot know the depth of pain or loss experienced by the Reyes 
family and the scores of other families who now mourn for lost parents, 
siblings, and children. But we can send a message today, to those who 
perpetrated this cruelty, and to those who might contemplate future 
similar acts of violence: We reject this terror, we will not let it 
stand, and we will take appropriate action to find you and convict you. 
This tragedy has exposed within the fabric of our body politic a 
dangerous element, a cancer, that must be countered not just with 
effective law enforcement, but also the best of the American spirit--
our shared vision of a democratic republic, a pluralistic society where 
rights are balanced with responsibilities. From this dark hour, let us 
join hands and commit ourselves to renewing our communal spirit.
  Mr. FOGLIETTA. Mr. Speaker, I rise to speak in favor of this 
resolution.
  We all mourn for the mothers, the fathers, the sons, the daughters, 
the children, who were lost, or who lost loved ones in this tragedy.
  When we condemn the Oklahoma bombing, we also must condemn the way 
speech has become so mean and provocative in America. I agree with 
President Clinton when he says that words matter. When talk radio show 
hosts tell their listeners where to aim when shooting a Federal agent. 
When political consultants advise their clients to call their opponents 
traitors. When Members rise on this floor and call our President--and 
he is ``our'' President--a turncoat who gives aid and comfort to the 
enemy. These mean words have consequences.
  Without violating the Constitution, we must give law enforcement the 
weapons they need 
[[Page H4464]] to stop domestic terrorism--but we must disarm and 
condemn another weapon--angry, venomous, incendiary, rhetoric.
  Mr. MFUME. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to express my outrage, my 
sorrow, and my sincere condolences to the victims of the Oklahoma City 
bombing and their families. The bombing 2 weeks ago was a heinous act 
of cowardice which will hopefully never be repeated.
  We are all shocked, as we should be, any time innocent lives are 
taken. Yet the magnitude of the devastation in Oklahoma City, as well 
as the massive number of innocent lives that were lost, has left many 
of us shaken to the core.
  The fact that the target of the bombing appears to be Federal 
employees makes this act even more reprehensive and repulsive to me. As 
many of my colleagues know, I represent roughly 35,000 Federal 
employees, many of whom are not just my constituents, but also my 
neighbors and my friends.
  It is my experience that Federal employees deserve our gratitude, 
they deserve our admiration, and they deserve our respect. They do not 
deserve to be terrorized.
  As most Americans know, Federal employees play an integral, albeit 
often invisible, role in our daily lives. Federal employees make sure 
that our senior citizens get their monthly Social Security checks and 
that our veterans get the care and treatment they need. Federal 
employees are responsible for printing out money and insuring it when 
we make deposits at a bank. Federal employees protect our borders and 
make sure the food we eat is safe. In short, Federal employees spend 
their days and often their nights making sure that our Government 
performs its duties.
  Furthermore, the American civil servant is perhaps the best Federal 
employee in the world. All one needs to do is travel abroad to see that 
American Federal employees are second to none in terms of their 
devotion to the job, their initiative, and their belief that they are 
serving their communities as well as their Nation.
  I am glad that we are taking the time today to discuss this tragedy 
and to let the American people know that the abhorrent behavior of a 
few irrational people in Oklahoma City is repulsive to us as well as 
our constituents. I am also glad that the American public, if they are 
following this debate, is aware that every Member of Congress, 
regardless of their ideology or party affiliation, condemns this act of 
terrorism.
  The irony of the attack on Oklahoma City is that according to the 
reports we have been receiving, the primary suspects refer to 
themselves as ``American patriots.'' This is offensive, not only to the 
American public, but especially to the people who, since the bombing, 
have proven themselves to be the true American patriots.
  I submit to you that the true American patriots are the men, women, 
and children who gave their lives in Oklahoma City, as well as their 
families whose loss we can only imagine; they are those who ministered 
to the lucky few who survived; and they are the people who are still 
trying to dig through the rubble to find any remaining victims. It is a 
true American patriot who, in the last 2 weeks, has made it clear that 
this act of terrorism is not acceptable and will not be tolerated.
  Mr. LUCAS. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
  Mr. BREWSTER. Mr. Speaker, I have no further requests for time, and I 
yield back the balance of my time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore [Mr. Combest]. Without objection, the 
previous question is ordered on the resolution.
  There was no objection.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the resolution offered by 
the gentleman from Oklahoma [Mr. Lucas].
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.
  Mr. LUCAS. Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground that a 
quorum is not present and make the point of order that a quorum is not 
present.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evidently a quorum is not present.
  The Sergeant at Arms will notify absent Members.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 409, 
nays 0, answered ``present'' 3, not voting 22, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 305]

                               YEAS--409

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allard
     Andrews
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker (CA)
     Baker (LA)
     Ballenger
     Barcia
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Barrett (WI)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bateman
     Beilenson
     Bentsen
     Bereuter
     Berman
     Bevill
     Bilbray
     Bishop
     Bliley
     Blute
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bonior
     Bono
     Borski
     Boucher
     Brewster
     Browder
     Brown (CA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Brownback
     Bryant (TN)
     Bryant (TX)
     Bunn
     Bunning
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Canady
     Cardin
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chapman
     Chenoweth
     Christensen
     Chrysler
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clinger
     Clyburn
     Coble
     Coburn
     Coleman
     Collins (GA)
     Collins (IL)
     Collins (MI)
     Combest
     Condit
     Costello
     Cox
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Crane
     Crapo
     Cremeans
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Danner
     Davis
     de la Garza
     Deal
     DeFazio
     DeLauro
     DeLay
     Dellums
     Deutsch
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doolittle
     Dornan
     Doyle
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Durbin
     Edwards
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     Engel
     English
     Ensign
     Eshoo
     Evans
     Everett
     Ewing
     Farr
     Fattah
     Fawell
     Fazio
     Fields (LA)
     Fields (TX)
     Filner
     Flake
     Flanagan
     Foglietta
     Foley
     Forbes
     Ford
     Fowler
     Fox
     Frank (MA)
     Franks (CT)
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Frisa
     Frost
     Funderburk
     Furse
     Ganske
     Gejdenson
     Gekas
     Gephardt
     Geren
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Gonzalez
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Gordon
     Goss
     Graham
     Green
     Greenwood
     Gunderson
     Gutierrez
     Gutknecht
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Hamilton
     Hancock
     Hansen
     Harman
     Hastert
     Hastings (FL)
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Hefner
     Heineman
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Hinchey
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Hoke
     Holden
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Houghton
     Hoyer
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Inglis
     Istook
     Jackson-Lee
     Jacobs
     Jefferson
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson (SD)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Johnson, Sam
     Johnston
     Jones
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kasich
     Kelly
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kildee
     Kim
     King
     Kingston
     Kleczka
     Klink
     Klug
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     LaFalce
     LaHood
     Lantos
     Largent
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Laughlin
     Lazio
     Leach
     Levin
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (GA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Lightfoot
     Lincoln
     Linder
     Lipinski
     Livingston
     LoBiondo
     Lofgren
     Longley
     Lowey
     Lucas
     Luther
     Maloney
     Manton
     Manzullo
     Markey
     Martinez
     Martini
     Mascara
     Matsui
     McCarthy
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McDade
     McDermott
     McHale
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek
     Metcalf
     Meyers
     Mfume
     Mica
     Miller (CA)
     Miller (FL)
     Mineta
     Minge
     Mink
     Molinari
     Mollohan
     Montgomery
     Moorhead
     Moran
     Morella
     Murtha
     Myers
     Myrick
     Nadler
     Neal
     Nethercutt
     Neumann
     Ney
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Orton
     Owens
     Oxley
     Packard
     Pallone
     Pastor
     Paxon
     Payne (NJ)
     Payne (VA)
     Pelosi
     Peterson (FL)
     Petri
     Pickett
     Pombo
     Pomeroy
     Porter
     Portman
     Poshard
     Pryce
     Quillen
     Radanovich
     Rahall
     Ramstad
     Rangel
     Reed
     Regula
     Reynolds
     Richardson
     Riggs
     Rivers
     Roberts
     Roemer
     Rohrabacher
     Rose
     Roth
     Roukema
     Roybal-Allard
     Royce
     Rush
     Sabo
     Salmon
     Sanders
     Sanford
     Sawyer
     Schaefer
     Schiff
     Schroeder
     Schumer
     Seastrand
     Sensenbrenner
     Serrano
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Shuster
     Sisisky
     Skaggs
     Skeen
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith (WA)
     Solomon
     Souder
     Spence
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stearns
     Stenholm
     Stockman
     Stokes
     Studds
     Stump
     Stupak
     Talent
     Tanner
     Tate
     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Tejeda
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Thornton
     Thurman
     Tiahrt
     Torkildsen
     Torres
     Torricelli
     Towns
     Traficant
     Tucker
     Upton
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Volkmer
     Vucanovich
     Waldholtz
     Walker
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Ward
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     White
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Williams
     Wolf
     Woolsey
     Wyden
     Wynn
     Yates
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)
     Zeliff
     Zimmer

                        ANSWERED ``PRESENT''--3

     Scott
     Waters
     Watt (NC)

                             NOT VOTING--22

     Baesler
     Baldacci
     Becerra
     Bilirakis
     Clay
     Conyers
     Cooley
     Gallegly
     Hilliard
     Menendez
     Moakley
     Parker
     Peterson (MN)
     Quinn
     Rogers
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Thompson
     Waxman
     Wilson
     Wise

                              {time}  1400

  Mr. OXLEY and Mrs. SEASTRAND changed their vote from ``nay'' to 
``yea.''
  [[Page H4465]] Mr. WATT of North Carolina changed his vote from 
``yea'' to ``present.''
  So the resolution was agreed to.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.

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