Exhibit H 

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DECLARATION OF CARL FERRER ISO 

OPPOSITION TO PLAINTIFFS’ MOTION TO 

COMPEL (NO. 12-2-11362-4) – 1 

Perkins Coie LLP

1201 Third Avenue, Suite 4900 

Seattle, WA 98101-3099 

Phone: 206.359.8000 

Fax: 206.359.9000 

THE HONORABLE PHILIP K. SORENSEN

HEARING DATE: SEPTEMBER 9, 2016 

SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON 

FOR PIERCE COUNTY 

J.S., S.L., and L.C., 

Plaintiffs, 

v. 

VILLAGE VOICE MEDIA HOLDINGS, 

L.L.C., d/b/a Backpage.com; 

BACKPAGE.COM, L.L.C.; NEW TIMES 

MEDIA, L.L.C., d/b/a Backpage.com; and, 

BARUTI HOPSON, 

Defendants. 

No. 12-2-11362-4 

DECLARATION OF CARL FERRER IN 

SUPPORT OF DEFENDANTS VILLAGE 

VOICE MEDIA HOLDINGS, LLC’S; 

BACKPAGE.COM, LLC’S; AND NEW 

TIMES MEDIA, LLC’S MEMORANDUM 

OF LAW IN OPPOSITION TO 

PLAINTIFFS’ MOTION TO COMPEL 

FULL AND COMPLETE SEARCH OF 

CARL FERRER’S GMAIL RECORDS

I, Carl Ferrer, declare as follows: 

1. I am the CEO of Backpage.com, LLC. I am over the age of eighteen and 

have personal knowledge of the matters stated below. 

2. During the 2003 to 2011 period, I maintained a Gmail account 

(carlferrer15@gmail.com), which I utilized as a means to archive emails from my 

Backage.com email account (carl.ferrer@backpage.com). To do so, I would forward emails 

E-FILED

IN COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE

PIERCE COUNTY, WASHINGTON

September 06 2016 8:30 AM

KEVIN STOCK

COUNTY CLERK

NO: 12-2-11362-4

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DECLARATION OF CARL FERRER ISO 

OPPOSITION TO PLAINTIFFS’ MOTION TO 

COMPEL (NO. 12-2-11362-4) – 2 

Perkins Coie LLP

1201 Third Avenue, Suite 4900 

Seattle, WA 98101-3099 

Phone: 206.359.8000 

Fax: 206.359.9000 

from the Backpage.com account to the Gmail account. I did this in order to preserve 

communications, because Backpage.com’s email system purged emails after 90 days. 

3. I used the Gmail account purely for email archiving discussed above. I 

conducted all of my Backpage.com-related work through my Backpage.com email address. 

Any Backpage.com email that was sent to my Gmail account was first generated in my 

Backpage.com email account. All responses to Backpage.com emails were sent through my 

Backpage.com email account, not the Gmail account. I did not send my Backpage.comrelated emails to my Gmail account in order to communicate from my Gmail account 

regarding Backpage.com business or for any other purpose. I did not conduct business 

through my Gmail account and did not use my Gmail account to contact anyone regarding 

Backpage.com business. 

4. Backpage.com is an online classified advertising service. At times, 

Backpage.com advertised its services in other media spaces. 

5. For example, Backpage.com advertised its service on a website called The 

Erotic Review (“TER”) for a few months in 2008 or 2009. The TER website is and was 

wholly unrelated to Backpage.com. The TER website hosted profiles for escorts and 

provided discussion forums. TER also included Backpage.com referral links on its site. 

6. TER ran advertisements in Village Voice Media’s print papers for many 

years. TER also ran ads in other newspapers and additional widespread media including 

Penthouse Magazine and the Howard Stern Show. 

7. At some point, TER provided Backpage.com with a VIP account that I used 

to read comments on its forums regarding Backpage.com’s moderation practices. To my 

knowledge, no one from Backpage.com ever posted or responded to users in TER’s forums 

using that account. 

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8. Backpage.com stopped advertising its service on TER in 2009, and 

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3 terminated the referrals in 2010. Late in 2010 or early in 2011, Backpage.com banned TER 

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5 numbers and links to TER reviews from adult ads on Backpage.com and added TER and 

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7 related tenns as banned terms to its automated filtering system. 

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9 I declare that the foregoing is true and correct to the best of my knowledge and 

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11 subject to the penalty of perjury under the laws of the state of Washington. 

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Dated this g_ day of September, 2016 at Dallas, Texas. 

Carl et1~'= Ferrer 

DECLARATION OF CARL FERRER ISO 

OPPOSITION TO PLAINTIFFS' MOTION TO 

COMPEL (NO. 12-2-1 1362-4)-3 

Perkins Coie L LP 

120 I Third A venue, Suite 4900 

Seattle, WA 98101 -3099 

Phone: 206.359.8000 

Fax: 206.359.9000 

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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE 

(NO. 12-2-11362-4) – 1 

119103-0001/LEGAL132517483.3 

Perkins Coie LLP

1201 Third Avenue, Suite 4900 

Seattle, WA 98101-3099 

Phone: 206.359.8000 

Fax: 206.359.9000 

CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE 

On September 2, 2016, I caused to be served upon counsel of record, at the address 

stated below, via the method of service indicated, a true and correct copy of the following 

documents: DECLARATION OF CARL FERRER IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANTS 

VILLAGE VOICE MEDIA HOLDINGS, LLC’S; BACKPAGE.COM, LLC’S; AND 

NEW TIMES MEDIA, LLC’S MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN OPPOSITION TO 

PLAINTIFFS’ MOTION TO COMPEL FULL AND COMPLETE SEARCH OF 

CARL FERRER’S GMAIL RECORDS 

Erik L. Bauer 

The Law Office of Erik L. Bauer 

215 Tacoma Avenue South 

Tacoma, WA 98402 

Email: erik@erikbauer.com 

Attorney for Plaintiffs 

 Via hand delivery 

 Via U.S. Mail, 1st Class, 

Postage Prepaid 

 Via Overnight Delivery 

 Via Facsimile 

 Via E-Mail 

Michael T. Pfau 

Darrell L. Cochran 

Jason P. Amala 

Vincent T. Nappo 

Pfau Cochran Vertetis Amala PLLC 

911 Pacific Avenue, Suite 200 

Tacoma, WA 98402 

Email: Michael@pcvalaw.com 

Darrell@pcvalaw.com 

jason@pcvalaw.com 

Vincent@pcvalaw.com 

Attorneys for Plaintiffs 

 Via hand delivery 

 Via U.S. Mail, 1st Class, 

Postage Prepaid 

 Via Overnight Delivery 

 Via Facsimile 

 Via E-Mail 

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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE 

(NO. 12-2-11362-4) – 2 

119103-0001/LEGAL132517483.3 

Perkins Coie LLP

1201 Third Avenue, Suite 4900 

Seattle, WA 98101-3099 

Phone: 206.359.8000 

Fax: 206.359.9000 

James Condon Grant 

John Goldmark 

Ambika Kumar Doran 

Davis Wright Tremaine LLP 

Email: jamesgrant@dwt.com 

johngoldmark@dwt.com 

ambikadoran@dwt.com 

Attorneys for Defendants, 

Village Voice Media Holdings, LLC, 

Backpage.com LLC, New Times Media, 

LLC 

 Via hand delivery 

 Via U.S. Mail, 1st Class, 

Postage Prepaid 

 Via Overnight Delivery 

 Via Facsimile 

 Via E-Mail 

I certify under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of Washington that the 

foregoing is true and correct. 

DATED: September 2, 2016 s/Erin J. Weinkauf 

Erin J. Weinkauf, Legal Secretary 

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