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IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA

SIXTH APPELLATE DISTRICT

THE PEOPLE,

Plaintiff and Appellant,

v.

JESSE CARRANCO,

Defendant and Appellant.

 H032412

 (Santa Cruz County

 Super. Ct. No. F12954)

After trial, a jury convicted defendant Jesse Carranco and codefendant Jacob 

Townley Hernandez ("Townley") of attempted deliberate and premeditated murder (Pen. 

Code, §§ 664, 187) for Townley's shooting of Javier Lazaro in Santa Cruz on 

February 17, 2006. This court reversed the judgments against both defendants, finding 

error in the superior court's refusal to permit trial counsel to show their clients a sealed 

declaration by a prosecution witness attesting to his own participation in an attempted 

murder, along with a sealed transcript of the witness's plea agreement proceeding. We 

held that the trial court had deprived defendants of their Sixth Amendment right to 

effective assistance of counsel by denying them access to these materials. The Supreme 

Court granted review. In Townley's case the holding that error had occurred was 

unchallenged by the People, and the high court expressed no opinion on this point. It did, 

however, reject this court's conclusion that the error was a structural defect subject to 
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automatic reversal under Perry v. Leeke (1989) 488 U.S. 272. On the contrary, our 

Supreme Court held that an analysis of prejudice was required under the standard 

articulated in Strickland v. Washington (1984) 466 U.S. 668, and it accordingly remanded 

the case for that purpose. (People v. Hernandez (2012) 53 Cal.4th 1095.)

After reversing the judgment in Townley's case, the Supreme Court remanded 

Carranco's case to be considered in light of Hernandez. Having received post-remand 

written [and oral] argument from the parties, we now conclude that no prejudice appears 

on the record before us. We also consider Carranco's assertions that (1) he was deprived 

of his Sixth Amendment right of confrontation during his cross-examination of the 

prosecution witness, (2) the court improperly excluded relevant portions of his statements 

in a police interview, (3) the prosecutor engaged in misconduct at trial, and (4) the trial 

judge improperly commented on Flores's credibility. We find no prejudicial error on 

these grounds, however, and therefore must affirm the judgment.

Background

Sixteen-year-old Jesse Carranco was accused by information with attempted 

murder, committed with three accomplices: 17-year-old Townley, 18-year-old Jose

Ruben Rocha, and 18-year-old Noe Flores. The charges arose from the gang-related 

shooting of Javier Lazaro around 9:00 p.m. on February 17, 2006. In a telephone call at 

about 7:00 p.m. that night, Townley asked Flores to "do a ride." Flores drove his 1992 

white Honda Accord to pick up Townley and his girlfriend, Amanda Johnston, in Santa 

Cruz. Once in the car, Townley showed Flores a small black handgun, which Flores 

handled and returned to Townley.

Townley directed Flores to drive to Watsonville, where they picked up Carranco 

(known as "Little Huero") and Rocha (known as "Listo"), whom Flores had not met 

before. Townley was wearing People's Exhibit 23, a red and black plaid Pendleton shirtjacket, which Johnston had given him as a gift. Carranco wore a red hooded sweatshirt; 

he had four dots tattooed on his knuckles, signifying his association with Northside, a 
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Norteno gang.1 Rocha wore a black flannel jacket with white in it. Flores wore black 

sweatpants, a white T-shirt, gloves, and a black zip-up hooded sweatshirt. In his car he 

carried a T-ball bat (smaller than a regular baseball bat), as he had been "tagged" by some 

Surenos, whom he called "scraps," in downtown Santa Cruz on December 31, 2005.

The group then drove back to Santa Cruz, dropping Johnston off before heading 

downtown. Carranco said, "How's that Norte life?" to a pedestrian. 

Carranco told Flores where to drive. The group went to an apartment on Harper 

Street where Anthony Gonzalez lived. About 20 minutes later, Townley, Carranco, 

Flores, and Rocha left the apartment, Carranco again directing Flores. The passengers in 

the car were talking about finding a Sureno and saying there would be violence. Flores 

later told Detective Sulay that Carranco was doing most of the talking. According to 

Flores, there was no talk about shooting anyone as they drove around. 

As they were moving down 17th Avenue, they saw Javier Lazaro on the sidewalk 

across the street, walking back to his apartment at the Ocean Terrace complex, which was 

located in an area known as Sureno gang territory. Lazaro, aged 29, was not associated 

with any gang, but the sweatshirt he wore was blue, the color associated with the Sureno 

gang. Carranco told Flores in a "[k]ind of urgent" voice to turn around and pull over, and 

Flores did so. Grabbing the T-ball bat that Flores kept in the front passenger area, 

Carranco jumped out of the car, along with Townley and Rocha. The three crossed the 

street and ran after Lazaro as Flores waited in the driver's seat with the engine running. 

 

1 According to gang expert Roy Morales, a sergeant in the Santa Cruz County sheriff's 

office, Nortenos and Surenos are rival Hispanic gangs. Nortenos identify with the color 

red, the letter N, the Huelga bird symbol, and various representations of the number 14. 

Surenos identify with the color blue, the letter M, and various representations of the 

number 13. "Scrap" or "scrapa" is a pejorative term Nortenos use for Surenos. Flores 

was aware that Southerners associate with blue and Northerners associate with red. 

Flores denied being a Norteno gang member or associating with Norteno gang members, 

but he admitted associating with Norteno associates. 
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He heard what sounded like firecrackers; then the three others ran back to the car and 

Carranco told him "urgently" to go. Flores drove away rapidly with his passengers and 

followed Carranco's directions back to Gonzalez's apartment. 

Lazaro testified that as he was walking back to his apartment he heard three or 

four voices from inside Flores's car, and then someone yelled, "Come here." He thought 

it was directed at someone else, so he continued walking without turning around. Just as 

he reached the parking lot of the apartment complex, he saw the group get out of the 

white Honda and run across the street toward him. They asked him whether he was 

Norteno or Sureno. At that point Lazaro was frightened and ran, until he felt something 

push him to the ground. Lazaro received five gunshot wounds, including one that 

fractured a rib and bruised a lung. Two bullets remained in his body.

Lazaro did not see who shot him, but Ginger Weisel, Lazaro's neighbor, was in the 

parking lot when Lazaro walked away from the group. She heard them call out "fucking 

scrap" and ask where Lazaro was from before seeing one of them shoot Lazaro six to 

eight times. Lazaro fell after about four shots. Weisel recalled that the shooter was about 

five feet, nine inches tall2and wore a red and black plaid Pendleton shirt. Weisel called 

911 from her apartment and returned to help Lazaro. 

David Bacon was driving on 17th Avenue when he saw Flores's car parked in a 

no-parking zone. He saw what appeared to be two Latino males of high school age, 

about five feet 10 inches tall. Seconds later he heard snapping sounds and saw one of the 

group standing in a "classic shooting position," holding a gun. He heard a total of five or 

six shots from what appeared to be a small-caliber gun. Bacon had the impression that 

the shooter wore a plaid jacket, which could have been People's Exhibit 22. The second 

 

2 One of the detectives who investigated the case testified that Townley was about five 

feet, seven inches. Carranco was about five feet, six inches; and Rocha, about five feet, 

nine inches. 
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man appeared to be a lookout. Bacon then saw two people run back to the car, which 

sped away. He parked his car, called 911, and returned to help Lazaro, who was lying on 

the ground with two women tending to him. Emergency personnel arrived within a 

minute after the last shot. 

Susan Randolph stepped outside her home on 17th Avenue when she heard the 

gunshots. She described the three as young Latinos between 16 and 20 years old, ranging 

from five feet, six inches to five feet, nine inches. 

Julie Dufresne was driving on 17th Avenue with Jeanne Taylor when she heard 

popping noises that sounded like fireworks, followed immediately by three people 

running across the street in front of her car. They were all about her height, five feet nine 

or 10 inches, or probably shorter, and they appeared to be between 15 and 20 years old. 

One wore a thin, red and black plaid flannel jacket. 

Taylor thought there were five popping sounds, followed by the "three young 

men" running across the street in front of the car. One of them was less than five feet, 

five inches and wore what looked like a plaid Pendleton shirt in black and red. He 

appeared to be staggering as if he were drunk or "having difficulty with his 

coordination." The other two were taller; one wore a white and black plaid shirt, People's 

Exhibit 22, and the other a hooded sweatshirt. When they reached the white car, one 

went to the backseat on the driver's side, and the other two went around to the passenger 

side. Taylor thought that People's Exhibit 23 looked like the red and black shirt the 

"shorter person" had been wearing; Dufresne "couldn't say for sure." 

Randi Fritts-Nash was one of the teenagers drinking at the Harper Street 

apartment. Sitting in Gonzalez's bedroom with five others, she heard a car pull into the 

parking lot, followed by a couple of knocks at the window. Gonzalez went to the 

window and then left the room. Before he left, Fritts-Nash heard the anxious voices of 

two people outside, one of whom said the words "hit" and "scrap." 
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When Gonzalez reappeared, Townley and the other three were with him. Townley 

was wearing a red and black plaid jacket, People's Exhibit 23. Fritts-Nash heard 

Townley say something to Gonzalez about Watsonville Nortenos. She also saw Townley 

pull a small handgun out of his pocket and wipe off the prints with a blanket. Townley 

moved the gun several times from one pocket to another, saying, "I need to hide this 

gun." He also told her he was "looking at 25 to life." Rejecting Fritts-Nash's suggested 

hiding place, Townley put the gun in his shoe and a small black velvet bag of bullets into 

his other shoe. Townley told her to cross her fingers for good luck. Fritts-Nash asked 

him if he had shot someone; his head movement indicated an affirmative answer. 

Townley and Carranco, 17 and 16 respectively at the time of the shooting, were 

tried together as adults under Welfare and Institutions Code section 707, subdivision 

(d)(2). Flores and Rocha originally were also charged as codefendants with attempted 

murder, but their cases were severed on Townley's motion. Before trial in this case, both 

Flores and Rocha entered into plea agreements in which the prosecution would reduce the 

charges in exchange for their declarations under penalty of perjury. Flores thereafter 

pleaded guilty to assault with a firearm subject to a three-year prison term, and the 

prosecutor dismissed the attempted murder charge against him. Rocha pleaded guilty to 

assault with force likely to produce great bodily injury, with an expected sentence of two 

years. On the same date that Flores and Rocha entered their pleas, April 17, 2007, the 

prosecution filed a motion to reconsolidate the cases against Carranco and Townley, 

which the court granted on April 26, 2007. 

The jury found Carranco and Townley guilty of attempted premeditated murder. 

It further found that both were minors who were at least 14 years old at the time of the 

offense within the meaning of Welfare and Institutions Code section 707, subdivision 

(d)(2), and were at least 16 years old at the time of the offense within the meaning of 

Welfare and Institutions Code section 707, subdivision (d)(1). Townley was also found 

to have been armed with a handgun and to have personally used it to inflict great bodily 
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injury on Lazaro. (Pen. Code, §§ 12022.53, subds (b), (c), (d); 12022.5, subd. (a); 

12022.7, subd. (a).) 

Townley was sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole for the 

attempted murder, with a consecutive term of 25 years to life for the section 12022.53 

firearm enhancement. Carranco was sentenced to the aggravated term of nine years for 

the attempted murder, plus one year for a principal's being armed during the crime. 

Discussion

1. Issues Related to Flores's Declaration

a. Restriction on Attorney-Client Discussion of the Flores Declaration

The guilty pleas in Flores's and Rocha's cases were taken in closed proceedings 

and the reporter's transcripts were sealed by trial court order. At Flores's plea hearing the 

prosecutor stated that Flores would be permitted to serve his sentence out of state 

"because he was previously stabbed in the jail. There are very serious concerns about his 

physical well-being." 

Rocha's declaration stated that he understood that he had "to tell the judge in open 

court and under oath what I myself did on February 17, 2006." In Flores's declaration, on 

the other hand, he stated: "I understand that I have to tell the judge in open court and 

under oath that the contents of this declaration are true." He also stated, "I do understand 

that I may be called as a witness in any hearing related to the events that transpired on 

February 17, 2006." 

At each change-of-plea hearing, the court ordered the declaration to be filed under 

seal, to be opened only if the prosecution called him to testify about any of the matters 

covered in the declaration. Defense counsel were permitted to look at the document, but 

they were "prohibited from discussing the contents or the existence of the document with 

their client or any other person." Defense counsel also were not permitted to have a copy 

of the declarations. As the Attorney General notes, Flores's counsel emphasized that, 

even if the declaration was opened under those circumstances, it "will not ultimately be 
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part of the paperwork that follows Mr. Flores to his prison commitment." The prosecutor 

thereafter provided a written copy to the defense attorneys. 

Counsel for Townley and Carranco were unsuccessful in moving to withdraw the 

order not to discuss with their clients the contents or existence of Flores's and Rocha's 

declarations. At a hearing from which defendants were excluded, the court reasoned that 

it would be improper to rescind the order without Flores's and Rocha's counsel being 

present. The court did advise defense counsel that if the witnesses testified inconsistently 

with their statements, then the sealing order "would be undone" and counsel would be 

free to cross-examine them with the declarations. When the prosecutor asserted that 

defense counsel had a right to use the documents to cross-examine and impeach them, the 

court stated, "That's going a little beyond what we put on the record, those plea 

agreements. The agreement was for their protection." The court agreed with the 

prosecutor's statement, "So once they take the stand, the order would necessarily 

disappear because it doesn't make sense anymore."

Rocha did not testify at trial, but Flores was called as a witness on the second day 

of testimony. His testimony, the Supreme Court noted, was "essentially consistent with, 

but more detailed than, the information he had provided to police investigators." 

(Hernandez, supra, 53 Cal.4th at p. 1101.) At the end of that day, in the jury's absence, 

the court ordered the prosecution to give defense counsel copies of Flores's sealed 

declaration "in order to provide for adequate cross-examination of Mr. Flores." But the 

document was to be used only for cross-examination, and counsel were still not permitted 

to share the statement or its contents with their clients, or with investigators or other 

attorneys. 

During cross-examination of Flores, "[b]oth defense attorneys used [his] 

declaration to impeach him, establishing discrepancies between it and his trial testimony. 

For example, witnesses to the shooting reported that the man who shot Lazaro wore a 

red-and-black plaid shirt or jacket. Flores testified he had worn a blue or black shirt and 
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Townley had worn a red-and-black flannel shirt. Defense counsel brought out that in his 

declaration Flores had asserted he had worn a red-and-black Pendleton shirt." 

(Hernandez, supra, 53 Cal.4th at p. 1101.)

For purposes of discussion the Supreme Court accepted the premise that the trial 

court had unjustifiably interfered with Townley's access to his attorney by sealing 

Flores's declaration and the transcript of his plea proceedings. The focus of the high 

court's review was the question of whether Townley was denied his right to effective

assistance of counsel by the trial court's order forbidding counsel from discussing the 

declaration with his client. That question could be answered in the affirmative, thereby 

requiring reversal, only if Townley demonstrated prejudice from the asserted error, 

because this case did not present "circumstances that are so likely to prejudice the 

accused that the cost of litigating their effect in a particular case is unjustified." (Id. at p. 

1104, quoting U.S. v. Cronic (1984) 466 U.S. 648, 658.) Thus, prejudice would not be 

presumed in this case, because the challenged order had not rendered "the adversarial 

process presumptively unreliable, such as where an accused is denied counsel at a critical 

stage of trial, or counsel entirely fails or is unable to subject the prosecution's case to 

meaningful adversarial testing." (Id. at p.1106.) In contrast to the situation presented in 

Geders v. United States (1976) 425 U.S. 80, where petitioner was not allowed to consult 

with his attorney "about anything" during a 17-hour overnight recess between his directand cross-examination, "Townley was at all times free to consult with his attorney 

generally about trial tactics and defense strategy, and although he was not fully informed 

about Flores's probable testimony before Flores took the stand, he was not prevented 

from discussing how to respond to Flores's testimony after hearing it." (Hernandez, 

supra, at p. 1106.) In addition, Townley's attorney opposed the prosecution throughout 

the proceedings, thereby vitiating any conclusion that counsel "entirely failed to subject 

the prosecution's case to adversarial testing." (Id. at p. 1107; see also U.S. v. Cronic, 

supra, 466 U.S. at p. 659 ["if counsel entirely fails to subject the prosecution's case to 
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meaningful adversarial testing, then there has been a denial of Sixth Amendment rights 

that makes the adversary process itself presumptively unreliable"]; compare Bell v. Cone

(2002) 535 U.S. 685, 697 [counsel's failure to oppose prosecution "at specific points" 

during sentencing required showing of prejudice under Strickland].) The court also 

rejected any inference that the ban in this case violated Townley's right to " 'unrestricted 

access to his lawyer for advice on a variety of trial-related matters.' " (Hernandez, supra,

53 Cal.4th at p. 1109, quoting Perry v. Leeke (1989) 488 U.S. 272 [in a short recess 

during which defendant's testimony will likely be discussed, court may deny access to 

attorney, contrasting Geders, supra, 425 U.S. at p. 91].) 

In remanding Carranco's case, the Supreme Court directed this court to reconsider 

our prior opinion in light of Hernandez. We therefore address first the question of 

whether Carranco can show that the interference with his right to consult with his 

attorney "deprived him of the effective assistance of counsel and there is a reasonable 

probability that, but for the error, the result of the trial would have been different." 

(Hernandez, supra, 53 Cal.4th at p. 1111.)

To establish prejudice in accordance with the Supreme Court's decision, Carranco 

must adhere to the standard enunciated in Strickland— that is, he must show that the 

interference "actually had an adverse effect on the defense." (Strickland, supra, 466 

U.S.at p. 693.) More precisely, there must be a "reasonable probability" that without the 

error, "the result of the proceeding would have been different." (Id. at p. 694.) "The 

purpose of the Sixth Amendment guarantee of counsel is to ensure that a defendant has 

the assistance necessary to justify reliance on the outcome of the proceeding." (Id. at pp. 

691-692.) "[T]he ultimate focus of inquiry must be on the fundamental fairness of the 

proceeding whose result is being challenged. In every case the court should be concerned 

with whether, despite the strong presumption of reliability, the result of the particular 

proceeding is unreliable because of a breakdown in the adversarial process that our 

system counts on to produce just results." (Id. at p. 696.) Thus, "[t]he benchmark for 
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judging any claim of ineffectiveness must be whether [the error] so undermined the 

proper functioning of the adversarial process that the trial cannot be relied on as having 

produced a just result." (Id. at p. 686.) 

"Surmounting Strickland's high bar is never an easy task." (Padilla v. Kentucky

(2010) 559 U.S. 356, __ [130 S.Ct 1473, 1485].) "It is not enough for the defendant to 

show that the errors had some conceivable effect on the outcome of the proceeding[, as] 

not every error that conceivably could have influenced the outcome undermines the 

reliability of the result of the proceeding." (Strickland, supra, 466 U.S. at p. 693.) Nor 

must a defendant show that the deficiency "more likely than not" altered the outcome in 

the case. (Ibid.) The asserted error must be "so serious as to deprive the defendant of a 

fair trial, a trial whose result is reliable." (Id. at p. 687; Harrington v. Richter (2011) ___ 

U.S. ___ [131 S.Ct. 770, 787-788].) Accordingly, a defendant must show "a reasonable 

probability" that the result of the proceeding would have been different. "A reasonable 

probability is a probability sufficient to undermine confidence in the outcome." 

(Strickland, supra, 466 U.S. at p. 694.) 

In Hernandez our Supreme Court implicitly compared the situation presented here 

to a Confrontation Clause issue such as that considered in Delaware v. Van Arsdall 

(1986) 475 U.S. 673, a case in which the trial court improperly prevented the defense 

from eliciting bias during cross-examination of a prosecution witness by questioning him 

about the dismissal of his public drunkenness charge.3 The Supreme Court in Hernandez

 

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In contrast to a Strickland ineffective-assistance claim, however, in a confrontation 

clause violation, "the focus of the prejudice inquiry . . . must be on the particular witness, 

not on the outcome of the entire trial." (Delaware v. Van Arsdall (1986) 475 U.S. 673, 

680.) The standard adopted in Van Arsdall followed Chapman v. California (1967) 386 

U.S. 18, 24—that is, the error was required to be harmless beyond a reasonable doubt. 
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cited the factors employed in Van Arsdall,

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yet not to assess the prejudicial effect of the 

lower court's restriction on the use of the declaration, but to support the conclusion that 

"the circumstances presented here . . . do not justify a presumption of prejudice." 

(Hernandez, supra, 53 Cal.4th at p. 1108.) The court notably added, "There is no reason 

in logic to require a showing of prejudice to establish reversible error when impeaching 

evidence is withheld from a defendant and the defendant's attorney, but to presume

prejudice when impeaching evidence is withheld only from the defendant, even it was the 

trial court and not the prosecution that prevented the defendant from learning about the 

evidence." (Ibid., italics added.) 

Carranco suggests that the unchallenged portion of our previous holding alone 

"cannot be reconciled with a conclusion that the order was a harmless restriction on the 

right to counsel." He does not elaborate except to invoke the doctrines of law of the case, 

res judicata, and collateral estoppel, which he states bar relitigation of this court's prior 

"findings." To accept Carranco's position, however, would be to disregard completely 

the direction of the Supreme Court in Hernandez and its instruction in its remand of this 

case to reconsider our opinion in light of Hernandez. That disposition means that 

Carranco must make a showing of prejudice consistent with the Strickland standard in 

order to obtain reversal in his own case. 

Carranco first reminds us that the gag order prohibited defense counsel from 

discussing the assertion in Flores's declaration that it was Carranco who told him where 

to go and when to stop, "which suggested that he had a leadership role." As a result, 

 

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" 'These factors include the importance of the witness' testimony in the prosecution's 

case, whether the testimony was cumulative, the presence or absence of evidence 

corroborating or contradicting the testimony of the witness on material points, the extent 

of cross-examination otherwise permitted, and, of course, the overall strength of the 

prosecution's case.' " (Hernandez, supra, 53 Cal.4th at p. 1108, quoting Delaware v. Van 

Arsdall, supra, 475 U.S. at p. 684.)
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"[t]he prosecution's case against appellant was considerably strengthened by this new and 

surprising allegation because it allowed the prosecutor to argue that appellant had a 

leadership role in the 'mission' and therefore must have been a knowing participant in the 

shooting." But this argument goes to the effect of the declaration statements; it does not 

show prejudice. There is no claim that defense counsel was unable to cross-examine 

Flores effectively about Carranco's leadership role in the attack on Lazaro; indeed, 

counsel did challenge Flores on this point, highlighting the fact that in his police 

interview Flores had not specified Carranco as the person who had told him where to turn 

and when to stop. There is no argument that had defense counsel been allowed to discuss 

the declaration with his client, Carranco would have shed some light that would have 

assisted in his defense. 

The length of the jury's deliberations (three days) is also not a persuasive factor 

here; this was a complex case involving a serious crime involving multiple perpetrators, 

with multiple witnesses offering inconsistent testimony at trial. (Cf. In re Sassounian

(1995) 9 Cal.4th 535, 549, fn. 10 [closeness of case not determined by jury's time spent 

deliberating, given complexity of evidence and law, youth of petitioner, and other 

circumstances]; People v. Cooper (1991) 53 Cal.3d 771, 837 [seven-day deliberations 

indicates conscientious jury but not necessarily close case considering three-month 

duration of trial and complexity of issues]; see also People v. Houston (2005) 130 

Cal.App.4th 279, 301 [four-day deliberation speaks to jury's diligence, not closeness of 

case, where trial was extensive, with lengthy arguments, more than three dozen 

witnesses, and a "mass of information" to digest].) Carranco has thus failed to overcome 

the "high bar" of the prejudice analysis here.

b. Restrictions on Cross-Examination of Flores

Carranco next contends that the court unfairly sustained objections by the 

prosecutor during his cross-examination of Flores. Carranco's attorney attempted to point 

out, for example, that (1) the declaration Flores signed was not the first draft (prosecutor's 
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objection not ruled upon); (2) the declaration had omitted any account of Flores's first 

visit to the Harper Street apartment; and (3) the declaration had omitted the detail that 

Carranco directed Flores, who was driving, back to the apartment. To these efforts the 

prosecutor successfully objected. The prosecutor also successfully objected to defense 

counsel's reading the title of the document, which indicated that Flores was charged with 

a crime. Carranco's counsel tried to ask Flores about the requirement that he sign the 

declaration in order to obtain the three-year sentence; again the prosecutor's objection 

was sustained, as was a question about Flores's methamphetamine use on the night of the 

shooting. 

In the jury's absence, the court explained that it had sustained some of the 

prosecutor's objections because they were "questions about things that weren't in the 

document . . . suggesting to the jury that we'd intentionally omitted facts. And that's 

misleading." Eventually the trial court took judicial notice of the fact that the declaration 

was part of a plea bargain and accordingly instructed the jury.

Carranco argues that the trial court's rulings "cut off all inquiry into the origins of 

Flores's claim that [Carranco] acted as leader and thereby crippled his defense." The 

subjects on which the prosecutor's objections were sustained, however, were either 

nonprejudicial or irrelevant to refute the leadership role of Carranco in the events 

preceding the shooting. Reading the title of the declaration, for example—"People of the 

State of California versus Noe Antonio Flores"—was of no consequence, as counsel had 

already established (and the jury was reminded later) that Flores had pleaded guilty to 

assault with a firearm in exchange for dismissal of the original attempted murder charge. 

Counsel's subsequent attempt to delve into prior drafts of the document, as well as 

questions about who wrote the declaration he signed, were properly curtailed, as they 

were not relevant to the credibility of the witness and any inconsistencies between the 

declaration and his trial testimony; indeed, as the trial court explained, unsigned versions 

of the declaration were "not evidence of anything." Nor are we convinced by Carranco's 
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suggestion that it was important to impeach Flores with those facts he had related in his 

testimony but not included in his declaration, so he could show that Flores was 

"magnifying [Carranco's] role to please the prosecution and obtain the favorable plea 

deal." Flores had already secured the plea deal. In any event, Carranco's attorney did 

elicit Flores's admission that he had not mentioned that Carranco was directing him until 

talking to the district attorney in preparation for trial. In his police interview he had just 

said that "they" told him where to turn. Counsel was also able to obtain Flores's 

admission that he had not mentioned the first visit to the Harper Street apartment when 

interviewed by the police. Flores's overall credibility was challenged not only through 

admissions that he had omitted details in talking to the police, but through inconsistencies 

between his testimony and his declaration, including whether he touched the clip of 

Townley's gun and whether he was wearing the red and black Pendleton. The court made 

it clear that such inconsistencies were a permissible subject of cross-examination.

More significantly, we do not agree with Carranco that the rulings, even if 

erroneous, were prejudicial. The correct inquiry is whether, "assuming that the damaging 

potential of the cross-examination [had been] fully realized, a reviewing court might 

nonetheless say that the error was harmless beyond a reasonable doubt." (Delaware v. 

Van Arsdall, supra, 475 U.S.at p. 684.) "Whether such an error is harmless in a 

particular case depends upon a host of factors, all readily accessible to reviewing courts. 

These factors include the importance of the witness' testimony in the prosecution's case, 

whether the testimony was cumulative, the presence or absence of evidence corroborating 

or contradicting the testimony of the witness on material points, the extent of crossexamination otherwise permitted, and, of course, the overall strength of the prosecution's 

case." (Ibid.) Defense counsel conceded that Carranco was an active participant in the 

crime, that he took a bat and jumped out of the car with the intention of doing violence

toward Lazaro. Here, even if the trial court abused its wide discretion in limiting crossexamination when it regarded the questions as misleading or of marginal relevance, 
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Carranco has not shown that the additional questions would have given the jury "a

significantly different impression" of Flores's credibility." (Cf. Delaware v. Van Arsdall, 

supra, 475 U.S.at p. 680 [whether Confrontation Clause violation occurred depends on 

whether jury could have derived a "significantly different impression" of witness's 

credibility].) For the reasons we have explained above, any Confrontation Clause 

violation was harmless beyond a reasonable doubt. 

2. Exclusion of Statements to Police 

Carranco further contends that the trial court erroneously excluded portions of his 

statement to the police, which "left the jury with the false impression that he [had] 

confessed to participating in the shooting." We briefly review the events of the 

interview.

On February 23, 2006, Carranco was interviewed by Santa Cruz Sheriff's 

Detectives Henry Montes and Mario Sulay. Montes interviewed Carranco for about 90 to 

120 minutes before Sulay got involved. 

A broad overview of Carranco's lengthy interview (319 pages) reveals that it 

progressed through four distinct stages of what he was willing to admit. In the first stage, 

Detective Montes read him his Miranda rights (Miranda v. Arizona (1966) 384 U.S. 

436). Carranco acknowledged that he had been read his rights several times before and 

that he had a probation officer. Confronted by Montes with statements by others that he 

had gotten into a car with three other people, ridden to Santa Cruz, and gone to an 

apartment on Harper Street, Carranco repeatedly and adamantly denied that he had ever 

left Watsonville that night. He said he was hanging out with a friend named Ruben 

(nicknamed "Listo"), smoking marijuana and drinking beer. He originally claimed to 

have spent time with his cousin Alfonso ("Frank"), but later admitted that he had just 

called him on someone else's cell phone. He admitted that his friend "Jake" (Townley) 

came by to give him a ride, but he denied accepting it. 
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In the second stage of the interview, Carranco admitted to Montes that he had 

accepted a ride to Santa Cruz and gone to the apartment on Harper Street, but he 

repeatedly denied being at the scene of the shooting. He said he heard people at the 

apartment, in particular a guy named Michael, talking about the shooting. 

In the third stage of the interview, after Montes left the room for a half-hour and 

returned, Carranco reasserted that he had not left Watsonville that night. Montes left the 

room again to buy food, taking a food order from Carranco.

In the fourth and final stage of the interview, Carranco finally admitted his 

presence at the scene of the shooting and described his conduct that night. 

On May 1, 2007, Carranco filed a motion in limine to exclude from evidence his 

statements to the police as involuntary and taken in violation of Miranda. At a pretrial 

hearing on May 3, 2007, the trial court concluded that all of his statements were 

voluntary, and that there was no Miranda violation after he was taken to the police station 

and given Miranda warnings. 

On May 3, 2007, Carranco moved to admit some of his statements from his police 

interview in addition to those which the prosecution sought to introduce into evidence. 

At a pretrial hearing on the same day, counsel argued that the statements were admissible, 

even if they were self-serving. The court disagreed, stating, "You basically, don't get to 

have him tell you all the rest of the self-serving part of the statement without him being 

present for cross-examination." The court identified what parts of Carranco's police 

interview would be admitted into evidence by making notations on the written proffers by 

both sides. 

The court excluded the following statements as either violating Townley's right of 

confrontation, irrelevant, or irrelevant and self-serving: Carranco did not know the driver 

of the car, who was wearing a black beanie. Jake was in the car. He, Jake, Ruben, and 

the driver were looking for a party. The guy on the sidewalk looked like one of the guys 

who had beat him up. He did not know that Jake had a gun. He thought it was weak to 
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use a gun in a fight. When he heard shots, he thought he was being shot at, so he ducked 

and ran back to the car and saw Jake and others running back to the car. He did not know 

who was shooting. Carranco told the driver to leave because he believed someone was 

shooting at them. The trial court instructed the jury that they had heard only part of 

Carranco's statement and they should not "speculate about the content of the excluded 

portion of that statement." 

Carranco complained about the exclusion of these statements in an unsuccessful 

motion for a new trial. In rejecting his challenge the court stated that the parts of his 

interview that Carranco sought to admit were not related to the parts of the interview that 

the prosecutor wanted to admit. The prosecutor "requested use of certain admissions by 

Mr. Carranco [that] were very clear and very precise." "But the statements that you want 

. . . are just purely self-serving statements that don't relate to any of the admissions that 

Ms. Rowland sought to use." 

On appeal, Carranco contends that the court's ruling was improper under Evidence 

Code section 356. That provision states: "Where part of an act, declaration, 

conversation, or writing is given in evidence by one party, the whole on the same subject 

may be inquired into by an adverse party; when a letter is read, the answer may be given; 

and when a detached act, declaration, conversation, or writing is given in evidence, any 

other act, declaration, conversation, or writing which is necessary to make it understood 

may also be given in evidence." 

"The purpose of this section is to prevent the use of selected aspects of a 

conversation, act, declaration, or writing, so as to create a misleading impression on the 

subjects addressed. [Citation.] Thus, if a party's oral admissions have been introduced in 

evidence, he may show other portions of the same interview or conversation, even if they 

are self-serving, which 'have some bearing upon, or connection with, the admission . . . in 

evidence.' " (People v. Arias (1996) 13 Cal.4th 92, 156; cf. People v. Douglas (1991) 

234 Cal.App.3d 273, 285.) "In applying Evidence Code section 356 the courts do not 
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draw narrow lines around the exact subject of inquiry." (People v. Hamilton (1989) 48 

Cal.3d 1142, 1174; People v. Vines (2011) 51 Cal.4th 830, 861.) It is no objection to the 

other statements that they would otherwise be excludable hearsay. (People v. Williams

(1975) 13 Cal.3d 559, 565.) However, the proponent must show some connection to 

evidence admitted. (People v. Hamilton, supra, 48 Cal.3d at p. 1174.) Statements that are 

irrelevant to those being admitted may be excluded (People v. Gambos (1970) 5 

Cal.App.3d 187, 192-193; People v. Von Villas (1992) 10 Cal.App.4th 201, 272; see 

People v. Williams, supra, 13 Cal.3d at p. 565), as may statements that are subject to 

exclusion under section 352. (Cf. People v. Samuels (2005) 36 Cal.4th 96, 130; see also 

People v. Vines, supra, 51 Cal.4th at p. 863; People v. Von Villas, supra, 10 Cal.App.4th 

at p. 272.)

The situation becomes more complicated when, as in this case, the proffered 

exculpatory statements may also incriminate a codefendant. To avoid problems under 

People v. Aranda (1965) 63 Cal.2d 518 and Bruton v. United States (1968) 391 U.S. 123, 

a defendant's confession must be redacted so as to avoid incriminating a codefendant. 

But "[w]hen deletions cannot be made without prejudice to the declarant the court should 

either grant severance or exclude the statement." (People v. Douglas, supra, 234 

Cal.App.3d at p. 285; People v. Stallworth (2008) 164 Cal.App.4th 1079, 1098.)

On appeal, we review a trial court's determination under Evidence Code section 

356 for abuse of discretion. (People v. Parrish (2007) 152 Cal.App.4th 263, 274.) We 

find no such abuse here. "Application of Evidence Code section 356 hinges on the 

requirement that the two portions of a statement be 'on the same subject.' " (People v. 

Vines, supra, 51 Cal.4th at p. 861.) The subjects of Carranco's statement that the defense 

acknowledged were admitted concerned (1) what the victim and Carranco were each 

wearing; (2) Carranco's intention to fight the victim; (3) Carranco's having run after the 

victim with the bat; (4) Carranco's identification with Northside Santa Cruz; and (5) 

Carranco's dislike of Surenos. That Carranco didn't see who shot the gun was, as the trial 
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court ruled, outside the scope of "the very limited admissions" that the prosecutor wanted 

to introduce. Likewise, that Carranco did not know the driver was outside the scope of 

the prosecutor's intended evidence, and it was irrelevant in any event. Not knowing that 

Townley had a gun was properly excluded as evidence implicating Townley. (Cf. People 

v. Gamache (2010) 48 Cal.4th 347, 381 [defendant's implication of codefendants 

inadmissible under Aranda and Bruton].) The jury heard the portion of Carranco's 

statement indicating that he got out of the car intending to fight Lazaro because he looked 

like a guy he had gotten into a fight with at a party the previous weekend. The court did 

not abuse its discretion in excluding the proffered statements from the evidence presented 

to the jury.

3. Prosecutorial Misconduct

Carranco joins in Townley's argument that the prosecutor engaged in "egregious" 

misconduct at trial. Like his opening brief in his original appeal, Carranco's 

supplemental post-remand brief contains no separate, specific contention that the 

prosecutor's questioning of witnesses and argument to the jury resulted in prejudice as to 

him. Because there is no individualized claim of misconduct as to him, we will restate 

our discussion of the misconduct claimed in Townley's case. 

a. Comments on Witness Credibility

"It is misconduct for a prosecutor to express a personal belief in the merits of a 

case, rather than a belief based upon the evidence at trial. [Citations.]" (People v. 

Johnson (1981) 121 Cal.App.3d 94, 102.) Similarly, "[t]he prosecutor is generally 

precluded from vouching for the credibility of her witnesses, or referring to evidence 

outside the record to bolster their credibility or attack that of the defendant. [Citations.]" 

(People v. Anderson (1990) 52 Cal.3d 453, 479.) However, when the prosecutor relies on 

the evidence presented at trial and the inferences to be drawn from this evidence, and 

does not imply any personal knowledge or belief based on facts outside the record, the 

prosecutor has not engaged in improper " 'vouching.' " (People v Medina (1995) 11 
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Cal.4th 694, 757; see also People v. Frye (1998) 18 Cal.4th 894, 971, disapproved on 

other grounds in People v. Doolin (2009) 45 Cal.4th 390, 421, fn. 22 [prosecutor’s 

comments not improper vouching if assurances regarding the apparent honesty or 

reliability of prosecution witnesses are based on the facts and reasonable inferences, not 

purported personal knowledge or belief].) 

During opening statement the prosecutor told the jury that the police sergeant who 

interviewed Townley at Harper Street "felt that he was holding back and not being 

entirely truthful. The sergeant thought that maybe that was because they were in a 

Norteno[-] affiliated house and he was investigating a shooting by three or four guys 

wearing red who shot at another guy in a blue sweatshirt. [¶] So the decision was made 

to take them to the Sheriff's Office for an interview to see if in a different kind of 

environment he might be more forthcoming." When the jury had been dismissed for the 

day, Townley's attorney objected and moved for a mistrial, reminding the court that 

during in limine motions he had opposed the prosecutor's request to call a gang expert. In 

that opposition counsel had expressed the concern that the expert might suggest that a 

witness was lying to help the defendant or that a former codefendant testifying for the 

prosecution was credible. The court had allowed the gang expert to testify, but only as to 

matters the jury had heard from other witnesses. The expert was not to "address issues 

like snitch and rat and veracity and credibility . . . unless it's become apparent from the 

testimony of . . . witnesses that there's a basis for that needing to be explained to the jury 

in some way. [¶] But he cannot be put in a position where he is either vouching for the 

credibility of your witnesses or . . . essentially negatively vouching for them in any 

way . . . ." 

The trial court denied the mistrial motion, noting that the "no vouching" order 

pertained to a different situation: "What was referred to here was actually the 

policeman's impression of behavior that he saw from a person that he was interviewing at 
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that time," in contrast to the pre-trial discussion of an opinion of a witness's credibility 

because he or she was a "snitch."

In examining Sarah Oreb, the prosecutor attempted to bring out the inconsistencies 

between her trial testimony and her prior statements to the police. After an initial hearsay 

objection (without a ruling) Oreb was permitted to describe the officers' tactics in trying 

to persuade her to admit that she had heard Townley say he had "hit a scrap." The 

defense did not object as Oreb continued with this testimony and denied that Sergeant 

Fish had accurately reported her voluntary statement to him. However, at one point the 

prosecutor, having repeatedly attempted to elicit Oreb's admission that she had heard the 

"hit a scrap" statement, said, "I suppose you wouldn't be surprised to hear I don't believe 

[you]. Which is why I am continuing to ask the question." Townley's counsel 

immediately objected. The objection was sustained, and the court admonished the jury to 

disregard the remark. The prosecutor then asked Oreb, "If there's a recording of your 

interview with both Deputy Pintabona, and a subsequent interview with Detective Henry 

Montes, they edited those recordings?" The objection by Townley's counsel to this 

argumentative question was also sustained.

Further into her testimony, Oreb was insisting that she had lied every time she said 

she had heard the "hit a scrap" statement. She maintained that it was not acceptable to 

lie, which was why she was then telling the truth. The prosecutor asked, "Okay. So 

recently, within the last two weeks, you decided that you shouldn't lie? [¶] [Oreb]: No, 

not within the last two weeks. [¶] [The prosecutor]: When did you decide you weren't 

going to lie? . . . [¶] [Oreb]: I don't know. [¶] [The prosecutor]: When did it become 

important to you not to lie? [¶] [Oreb]: It's always been important to me not to lie. [¶] 

[The prosecutor]: Apparently it wasn't so important each time you talked to somebody in 

law enforcement?" Again both defense attorneys objected to the question as 

argumentative, but this time the court overruled the objection. However, just before 

playing the recording of the first interview, the prosecutor asked why Oreb had lied about 
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hearing a knock at Gonzalez's apartment window. Oreb recounted how she had merely 

told the interviewer what he wanted to hear. The prosecutor asked, "Did it occur to you 

that he didn't believe you?" Defense objections were sustained as argumentative and 

calling for speculation.

Oreb also testified that she used Townley's name and the words about hitting a 

scrap because that was what she had heard from others. Defense objections were raised 

on hearsay grounds. The trial court overruled one objection on the ground that it went to 

credibility. When defense counsel affirmed that the questioning was relevant to 

credibility only and not for the truth, the court explained to the jurors that as to these 

questions about the source of Oreb's information, they could use Oreb's testimony not for 

the truth of what other people said but only to determine whether Oreb was telling the 

truth about her recollection. 

Anthony Gonzalez also recanted the statement he had made about the shooting in 

police interviews. Like Oreb, he said he did not remember what had happened that night 

and had simply told the police what they wanted to hear because they had arrested him. 

Gonzalez said he kept telling the detectives what he knew and they kept telling him it 

wasn't true. Later, the prosecutor asked Detective Ramsey about a subsequent interview 

with Gonzalez. Ramsey testified that the purpose of the second interview was to "see if 

he'd be a little bit more up front and cooperative" with the officers. The prosecutor then 

asked, "And did you find that he was a little bit more forthcoming?" Townley's attorney 

objected to the question as irrelevant, and the objection was sustained. 

"The standards governing review of misconduct claims are settled. A prosecutor 

commits misconduct under the federal Constitution when his or her conduct infects the 

trial with such ' "unfairness as to make the resulting conviction a denial of due process." ' 

[Citations.] Under state law, a prosecutor who uses deceptive or reprehensible methods 

to persuade the jury commits misconduct even when those actions do not result in a 
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fundamentally unfair trial." (People v. Hawthorne (2009) 46 Cal.4th 67, 90, citing 

People v. Frye, supra, 18 Cal.4th at p. 969.) 

" '[A] prosecutor is prohibited from vouching for the credibility of witnesses or 

otherwise bolstering the veracity of their testimony by referring to evidence outside the 

record. . . . However, so long as a prosecutor’s assurances regarding the apparent honesty 

or reliability of prosecution witnesses are based on the "facts of [the] record and the 

inferences reasonably drawn therefrom, rather than any purported personal knowledge or 

belief," [her] comments cannot be characterized as improper vouching. [Citations.]' 

[Citation.]" (People v. Ward (2005) 36 Cal.4th 186, 215.)

"In order to preserve a claim of misconduct, a defendant must make a timely 

objection and request an admonition; only if an admonition would not have cured the 

harm is the claim of misconduct preserved for review. (People v. Alfaro (2007) 41 

Cal.4th 1277, 1328 . . . .)" (People v. Hawthorne, supra, 46 Cal.4th at p. 90; People v. 

Lopez (2008) 42 Cal.4th 960, 965-966.) 

Townley contends that "clear misconduct" occurred when the prosecutor 

commented on Oreb's lack of credibility. The court sustained the objection to that 

remark, however, and admonished the jury accordingly, thus averting any prejudice. The 

reference to the police impressions during opening statement and the questioning about 

Oreb's lies likewise created no reversible misconduct. The court properly ruled that the 

opening statement did not violate the in limine order; and the court sustained defense 

counsel's objections to argumentative questioning of Oreb with only one exception. That 

exception could not have had a significant impact on the jurors' perceptions of the case, 

as it only emphasized what they already knew, that Oreb had lied during questioning by 

the police. The subsequent jury instruction to ignore any question to which an objection 

was sustained reinforced the court's admonition and thus prevented any prejudice. It is 

also noteworthy that no requests to admonish the jury followed the objections to the 

prosecutor's questions.
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Otherwise, the examination of Oreb proceeded without objection on the ground 

now asserted. Townley has forfeited the issue as to these questions, and neither he nor 

Carranco presents analysis to support the bare assertion of ineffective assistance of 

counsel. In any event, it is clear that Oreb's insistence that she had lied to the police 

supported Townley's defense. Thus, allowing the prosecutor to elicit this testimony was 

justified as a tactical choice by the defense. Failing to object to asserted prosecutorial 

misconduct does not warrant reversal on appeal for ineffective assistance of counsel 

"except in those rare instances where there is no conceivable tactical purpose for 

counsel's actions." (People v. Lopez, supra, 42 Cal.4th at p. 972.)

As to the prosecutor's examination of Gonzalez, the only objections made by the 

defense were for hearsay, leading, and irrelevance. The recordings of both Oreb and 

Gonzalez were allowed over the objection that they did not contain prior inconsistent 

statements. The court properly ruled in both cases that the witnesses had fabricated their 

testimony—in Oreb's case, that she had heard nothing at the window, and in Gonzalez's 

case, that he did not remember anything that had happened that night. 

b. References to Townley's Bad Character

(1) Involvement in previous criminal activity

Without objection from the prosecution the court granted a defense motion in 

limine to preclude evidence that Townley had a juvenile record and was on juvenile 

probation at the time of the offense. Also precluded without objection was evidence or 

allegations that Townley might have been involved in other shooting incidents. 

Nevertheless, early in direct testimony by Detective Phillips, the prosecutor asked him 

what he had been asked to do on February 18, 2006. He answered that he had been asked 

to assist another detective in conducting a probation search, and he started to recite the 

address when both defense attorneys and the prosecutor interrupted with objections. 

After conferring privately with the witness, the prosecutor resumed her examination with 

the question, "You did a probation search first thing in the morning on a different case; is 
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that right?" The witness replied in the affirmative, and when asked whose house he 

searched, he named the people who lived there, including defendant Townley. 

Later, during testimony by Scot Armstrong, a ballistics expert, he mentioned two 

sheriff's numbers corresponding to two cases. Subsequently he was referring to "fired 

cases" identified as "REG-1, number 1 through 4. REG-110. And 131MH-001." The 

prosecutor directed the witness's attention to the five "REG" casings submitted when 

Townley's attorney obtained a sidebar conference. After completion of Armstrong's 

examination, both defense attorneys moved for a mistrial. The prosecutor acknowledged 

the in-limine ruling but noted that she had directed the witness not to mention any other 

investigations. "Clearly, he forgot." The slip, the prosecutor stated, "certainly was not 

anything intentional." Moreover, she argued, the jury was not likely to have understood 

what the witness was referring to by "SCD" numbers and different casings. The court 

agreed that "there was not enough there that the jury could possibly infer that there were 

other investigations going on or there were other bullets or casing being investigated 

beyond what's in this case." 

On appeal, Townley contends that the prosecutor engaged in "highly prejudicial 

misconduct" by eliciting information about his probation status and other shootings. He 

maintains that not only was the mention of a probation search improper, but the 

prosecutor "compounded the problem" by informing the jury "both that Townley was on 

probation, and that he was a suspect in a different case."

While "[i]t is misconduct for a prosecutor to violate a court ruling by eliciting or 

attempting to elicit inadmissible evidence in violation of a court order" (People v. Crew

(2003) 31 Cal.4th 822, 839), it is evident from the record that the incipient reference to a 

probation search occurred because Phillips forgot to avoid mentioning any case but this 

one. It is true that a prosecutor " 'has the duty to guard against statements by his 

witnesses containing inadmissible evidence,' and if a prosecutor 'believes a witness may 

give an inadmissible answer during his examination, he must warn the witness to refrain
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from making such a statement.' " (People v. Earp (1999) 20 Cal.4th 826, 865.) Here, 

however, the prosecutor did warn the witness not to refer to other investigations; and 

when he slipped, she interrupted her examination apparently to remind him. As in Earp, 

"nothing in the record suggests that the prosecutor had a basis for anticipating the 

response in question by Detective [Phillips]. Therefore, there was no prosecutorial 

misconduct." (Ibid.) 

As to the disclosure of the additional forensic investigation, Townley disputes the 

People's characterization of the disclosures as inadvertent; in his view, it was part of a 

"demonstrated pattern of ignoring or attempting to evade the trial court's rulings." We 

find no error in the trial court's ruling, however. As did the trial court, we find the 

prosecutor's brief references to obscure case numbers unlikely to encourage the jurors to 

speculate that Townley was being investigated for other shooting incidents. She 

mitigated potential harm by refocusing the witness's account on the shooting of the night 

before, relegating the mention of a probation search to an apparently unrelated case. The 

court's determination that the disclosure was obscure, unintentional, and unlikely to cause 

prejudice is supported by substantial evidence. 

(2) Evidence that Townley was Dangerous

Detective Ramsey testified that while Detective Makdessian was transporting 

Townley to the sheriff's station, Ramsey, who was in the car ahead, received information 

from Sergeant Sulay that caused him to alert Makdessian to stop the patrol car. The 

officers asked Townley to step out of the car; then they handcuffed him and examined his 

shoes. Inside the right shoe was an unloaded pistol; in the left shoe was a bag containing 

cartridges. During the direct examination of Ramsey, the prosecutor asked him to 

describe his "degree of alertness" in this encounter. The witness replied, "Extremely 

heightened." The prosecutor then asked, "Did you feel that your safety was in danger?" 

The witness answered, "Yes." At that point, however, Townley's attorney objected and 

moved to strike. The court granted the motion and admonished the jury to disregard the 
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answer. The prosecutor's next question, whether Ramsey had his gun out, was answered 

in the negative; but when she asked why not, his answer-- "I didn't want to --" was 

interrupted by another objection on irrelevance grounds, which was also sustained.

While Detective Makdessian was describing the same events, he stated that while 

transporting Townley he received an urgent call from then-Deputy Fish over the car 

radio, which the detective returned by cell phone. The prosecutor asked, "Did you have a 

physiological response after you had that phone conversation with Sergeant Fish?" 

Defense counsel objected to the question as irrelevant, and the court sustained the 

objection. After describing Detective Ramsey's removal of the gun from Townley's shoe, 

Makdessian was asked, "Had you ever transported somebody unhandcuffed with a gun 

before?" He answered, "Never." The prosecutor continued, "Do you anticipate ever 

doing that again?" Another defense objection to the irrelevant question followed and was 

sustained.

Sergeant Fish was also questioned about the discovery of the gun. Hearsay and 

irrelevance objections were sustained to two questions: about what a witness had told 

him and about whether Sergeant Sulay's telephone call was related to officer safety. 

Because the question about officer safety was answered ("Very much") before the 

objection was sustained, the court instructed the jury to disregard the answer. 

Townley contends that this line of questioning improperly suggested that Townley 

was a danger to the officers' safety. The questions, however, did not imply that the 

officers were actually threatened by Townley, nor that their safety concerns were caused 

by anything other than the knowledge that there was a passenger in the backseat with 

access to a weapon. In any event, the questions were at worst irrelevant and they 

provoked objections sustained on that ground. No prejudice resulted from the 

prosecutor's line of questioning about officer safety. Carranco himself offers nothing to 

suggest that any perception of Townley as dangerous might have carried over to his own 

case.
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Townley further argues that the prosecutor tried to give the jurors the impression 

that Flores was in protective custody because the defendants were a threat to him. The 

prosecutor was permitted to bring out Flores's statement that he was in "PC," or 

protective custody. When the prosecutor asked whether he was in protective custody 

because he had given a statement to the sheriff's deputies, the objection as speculation 

was sustained. Then the prosecutor asked, "Who is housed in protective custody?" 

Objections on multiple grounds followed, and the court suggested that the prosecutor 

move on to other questions until they could discuss the issue later. After the jury had left 

for the day, the prosecutor protested that it was important to present the evidence that he 

had to be housed in protective custody and transported separately because he was a snitch 

and had negative feelings about that "category." The court pointed out that Flores had 

said he was not afraid to be there testifying. Following extensive debate on the issue, the 

court cited the right to a fair trial and sustained the defense objection. 

Flores eventually admitted that he did not want to tell the police about what his 

companions had done the night of the shooting because he did not want to get them in 

trouble. The prosecutor questioned Flores further about what he thought of people who 

told the police about crimes others had committed. Her questions about why Flores did 

not want to tell the police what had happened the night of the shooting were permitted; 

but the court sustained relevancy objections to her question about what word was used to 

describe a person who told the police what someone else had done, as well as the 

questions about what Flores thought about such people. The court overruled the 

objection to the question whether he wanted to be such a person. Flores said he might get 

hurt. The prosecutor was not so successful in asking whether Flores felt like a Good 

Samaritan; he did not have an opinion about whether a person who told the police about a 

crime was a Good Samaritan, and he did not feel like one when he was talking to the 

police. The question "Why not" was met with another objection, which was sustained as 
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irrelevant. At that point the court directed the prosecutor to move on to another area, and 

she did.

The prosecutor later asked Flores whether he had wanted to talk to the police; he 

said he had not. When she asked why, a defense objection was overruled and Flores 

simply answered that he had not wanted to get in trouble. Flores explained that he had 

eventually told the truth to Sergeant Sulay, though he did not like talking to him. The 

question "Why not?" was again met with an irrelevance objection, which was sustained. 

Also sustained were similar objections to the question, "Why did you ultimately tell 

Sergeant Sulay the truth?" and the question, "What did you think about yourself for 

[telling Sergeant Sulay what had happened the night before]." 

Ginger Weisel, the victim's neighbor at the Ocean Terrace apartment complex, 

testified at length about what she had seen that night. On redirect, the prosecutor asked 

whether she wanted to be there testifying; she answered that she did not. The prosecutor 

asked why; and the defense objection ("352") was overruled. The witness responded that 

she did not "need to be part of this" and did not "want problems." She then was allowed, 

over objection, to testify that she was familiar with gangs and knew there were Surenos 

living at the complex.

The jury subsequently heard from Detective Montes, the gang investigator who 

related Oreb's statement that she had "heard somebody say they hit a scrap." Oreb was 

not threatened with custody, nor was Gonzalez in custody at the time of the detective's 

interview with her. The prosecutor asked Detective Montes whether it had appeared to 

him that Oreb "was at all reluctant" to tell him that she did not remember looking out the 

window, but defense objections were sustained. The prosecutor then asked whether 

Oreb's demeanor had suggested any reluctance or timidity, and another objection was 

sustained. The jury was instructed to disregard the last two answers, but no answer to 

either question exists on the record. 
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When Gonzalez was describing his interview with sheriff's deputies, he was asked 

whether he was "scared" while talking to them. The court sustained defense counsel's 

objection to the question as irrelevant. Also sustained were questions about whether he 

remembered contrasting his concern about his freedom "with something else" 

(irrelevant); whether he had wanted to speak with the police officers (irrelevant), and 

whether he wanted to be there testifying (asked and answered). Later the prosecutor 

asked, "Did you feel that, or do you feel now that talking about what happened that night 

is dangerous for you?" The objection ("irrelevant. 352.") was sustained. Then the 

prosecutor repeated the question, "Do you want to talk about what happened that night?" 

The same objection was sustained, along with the court's comment that this question had 

been asked and answered. 

This record reveals that to the extent that the prosecutor sought to portray 

witnesses as in fear of Townley, she was unsuccessful. Whenever she asked a question 

that could have suggested an answer revealing fear by a witness, defense counsel 

interrupted with a timely objection, and if the witness had already answered, the jury was 

instructed to disregard it. In addition, the jurors were instructed at both the beginning and 

the end of trial that the attorneys' remarks and questions were not evidence; only the 

witnesses' answers were evidence. They also were told that if an objection was sustained, 

they must ignore the question, refrain from guessing what the answer might have been, 

and disregard any answer that might have been given. (Cf. People v. Hamilton (2009) 45 

Cal.4th 863, 928-929 [instruction that attorneys' questions were not evidence eliminated 

the possibility of jury's considering facts not in evidence].) "As a general matter, we may 

presume that the jury followed the instructions it was given . . . and defendant has failed 

to supply any persuasive reason to suppose the jury instead would have accepted as 

evidence the insinuation allegedly implicit in the prosecutor's questions." (People v. 

Prince (2007) 40 Cal.4th 1179, 1295.) Accordingly, no prejudice could have resulted 
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from any improper questions posed by the prosecutor. Carranco does not show 

otherwise. 

c. Comments during Argument to the Jury

"When the issue 'focuses on comments made by the prosecutor before the jury, the 

question is whether there is a reasonable likelihood that the jury construed or applied any 

of the complained-of remarks in an objectionable fashion.' [Citations.] A prosecutor is 

given wide latitude during closing argument. The argument may be vigorous as long as it 

is a fair comment on the evidence, which can include reasonable inferences or deductions 

to be drawn therefrom. ' "A prosecutor may 'vigorously argue his case and is not limited 

to "Chesterfieldian politeness" ' [citation], and he may 'use appropriate epithets . . . .' " 

. . . .' " (People v. Harrison (2005) 35 Cal.4th 208, 244; People v. Williams (1997) 16 

Cal.4th 153, 221.)

" 'To prevail on a claim of prosecutorial misconduct based on remarks to the jury, 

the defendant must show a reasonable likelihood that the jury understood or applied the 

complained-of comments in an improper or erroneous manner.' [Citation.]" (People v. 

Wilson (2005) 36 Cal.4th 309, 337.) "In conducting this inquiry, we 'do not lightly infer' 

that the jury drew the most damaging rather than the least damaging meaning from the 

prosecutor's statements." (People v. Frye, supra, 18 Cal.4th at p. 970.) "We presume the 

jurors treated 'the prosecutor's comments as words spoken by an advocate in an attempt to 

persuade' [citation] . . . ." (People v. Cole (2004) 33 Cal.4th 1158, 1204.) In addition, 

while a defendant may single out certain comments made by the prosecutor during 

argument in order to demonstrate misconduct, as the reviewing court we "must view the 

statements in the context of the argument as a whole." (Id. at p. 1203.) Finally, " 'A 

defendant’s conviction will not be reversed for prosecutorial misconduct . . . unless it is 

reasonably probable that a result more favorable to the defendant would have been 

reached without the misconduct.' [Citation.]" (People v. Harrison, supra, 35 Cal.4th at 

p. 244; People v. Bolton (1979) 23 Cal.3d 208, 214.)
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(1) Appealing to Fear of Gang Violence

Townley protests the prosecutor's "improper comments that preyed upon the jury's 

fear" during her argument. One of the challenged remarks occurred in the context of the 

prosecutor's discussion of the natural and probable consequences of an assault: "Is 

somebody almost dying a natural and probable consequence of assaulting a rival gang 

member in that rival gang member[']s turf? Read about it all the time. You read . . . 

about it all the time. Gang fights where somebody ends up dead." At this point 

Carranco's attorney objected, but the prosecutor maintained that she was only talking 

about natural and probable consequences. The court cautioned her to be "careful about 

the intent issue" and overruled the objection. The prosecutor then continued with the 

point that one has to intend the assault, but "almost being killed [was] a natural and 

probable consequence" of an attack by a rival gang member. 

During her closing argument, the prosecutor used the facts that Lazaro was shot 

five times and that "there were additional bullets brought" to show that Townley had 

premeditated and planned to kill the victim. She queried, "Why did he need all those 

bullets? Why did he need all those bullets? Maybe they were going to go out and do 

another one. But why, if you don't mean to kill somebody, do you need to have to [sic] 

all that?" Carranco's attorney objected that "[k]illing is an improper argument," but the 

objection was overruled. 

Townley contends that these comments, together with the questions suggesting 

that the officers were in danger from the defendants and that the witnesses feared the 

defendants, "were a blatant plea to the fears and vulnerabilities of the jurors, and were 

calculated 'to induce a level of fear in the jurors so as to guarantee a guilty verdict.' " He 

compares this situation to Commonwealth v. Mendiola (9th Cir. 1992) 976 F.2d 475 

(overruled on another ground in George v. Camacho (9th Cir. 1997) 119 F.3d 1391), 

where the prosecutor's appeal to jury fears of the defendant's dangerousness constituted 

clear misconduct from which prejudice was "highly probable." (Id. at p. 487.) This case, 
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however, bears no resemblance to Mendiola. There the prosecutor's inflammatory 

argument evoked an image of a dangerous criminal who, if freed, would walk out of the 

courtroom "right behind" them and retrieve the gun.5 (Id. at p. 486.) In this case the 

prosecutor's speculation about the defendants' intentions on the night of the shooting was 

a far cry from the clear attempt to evoke fear and alarm among the Mendiola jurors, and 

the reference to gang fights was confined to her discussion of the natural and probable 

consequences of a gang-motivated assault. 

Townley's further reliance on People v. Vance (2010) 188 Cal.App.4th 1182 and 

United States v. Sanchez (9th Cir. 2011) 659 F.3d 1252 is similarly misplaced. The 

prosecutor did not, as in Vance, urge the jurors to view the crime through the victim's 

eyes and imagine the victim's suffering, or comment derisively on either defendant's 

courtroom demeanor. Nor did she suggest in some version of the prosecutor's argument 

in Sanchez, that by convicting Townley they would " 'protect community values, preserve 

civil order, or deter future lawbreaking.' " (United States v. Sanchez, supra, 659 F.3d at 

p. 1256.) 

(2) Racially Biased Remarks

A prosecutor engages in misconduct if he or she refers to facts not in evidence, 

thereby " 'offering unsworn testimony not subject to cross-examination.' " (People v. Hill

(1998) 17 Cal.4th 800, 828.) In Hill the prosecutor impugned the testimony of a defense 

witness who had witnessed the killing while visiting a friend whose last name was Hill. 

 

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The Mendiola prosecutor told the jury, "Now as I said, a lot of people are interested in 

your decision. . . . Everyone in Saipan is interested. That's why there are so many people 

in the courtroom. The people want to know if they are going to be forced to live with a 

murderer. [¶] Your job is to worry about Mr. Mendiola. And when I say worry, I mean 

worry. Because that gun is still out there. [¶] Mr. Mendiola deserves to be punished for 

what he did and that's your decision. And it's important because, as I said, that gun is still 

out there. If you say not guilty, he walks out right out the door, right behind you." 

(Commonwealth v. Mendiola, supra, 976 F.2d at p. 486.) 
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In an "outrageous fabrication," the prosecutor asked the jury to infer from the similarity 

of the names that the defendant and witness were related. (Id. at p. 829.) Townley 

contends that the prosecutor engaged in "almost identical" misconduct to that condemned 

in Hill, through remarks that were racially and ethnically biased. 

The source of the challenged argument was the prosecutor's characterization of the 

perpetrators' "culture" and the suggestion that Townley was part of that culture. The 

prosecutor argued that Flores was scared to identify his companions. "He didn't want to 

dime people out. He didn't want to be a rat. Nobody wants to be a rat in that culture. In 

our culture we generally call it a Good Samaritan helping police solve a case. Different 

culture." Then, referring the jury to the "two different Spanish voices" that called out to 

the victim, the prosecutor commented that Townley "may or may not" speak Spanish, 

although Townley's girlfriend had testified that he did not know Spanish. The prosecutor 

also pointed out that "one of his sur names [sic] is Hernandez." She did not acknowledge 

Flores's testimony that he had never heard Townley speak Spanish. 

Townley contends that the prosecutor engaged in misconduct by making the 

incorrect, racially biased suggestion that Townley spoke Spanish and implying that he 

was part of a culture that frustrates police investigation.6 Our reading of the record, 

however, is more consonant with the People's interpretation. The prosecutor's reference 

to a "different culture" occurred in the context of her discussion of gang behavior, 

 

6

Susan Randolph had believed that all three were Hispanic. David Bacon saw only two 

of the assailants, who appeared to be of "Latino origin." Jeanne Taylor described the 

shortest of the three, the one with the black and red plaid jacket, as being of dark 

complexion. Ginger Weisel described the gunman as five feet nine inches, but she did 

not see any of their faces. They were yelling in English. Randi Fritts-Nash, one of the 

teenagers drinking at the apartment, described Townley as white, while the others were 

Hispanic. In her first interview at the station Oreb also described Townley as a "white 

guy." In the year that Noe Flores had known Townley, he had not heard Townley speak 

Spanish. Amanda Johnston, Townley's girlfriend, testified that Townley did not know 

Spanish. 
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including the resistance being a "snitch." The prosecutor had already established during 

examination of Flores that he had not wanted to tell the police about what the group had 

done that night because he did not want to get them in trouble. She repeatedly used the 

term "Good Samaritan" and elicited Flores's statement that he did not feel like a Good 

Samaritan by talking to the police. We see no impermissible racial or ethnic insinuations 

in the challenged reference to being a "rat" on others. At worst it was illogical, creating a 

false comparison between a "rat" and a Good Samaritan. In addition, in further 

discussing Flores's reluctant testimony, the prosecutor clarified her associations by 

specifically referring to "the gang culture. That's where this happened that night. That 

particular culture." 

As for the comment that Townley "may or may not" speak Spanish, the 

prosecutor's erroneous suggestion was not clearly deliberate. Moreover, it was corrected 

by Townley's attorney, who pointed out that the prosecutor had incorrectly recalled or 

misunderstood the evidence. He reminded the jury that two witnesses, not just one, had 

explained that Townley did not speak Spanish.7 This correction, together with the jury 

instruction to rely on the evidence rather than argument, dispelled any potential prejudice 

that conceivably could have resulted to either defendant from the prosecutor's 

misstatement.

(3) Misstating the Burden of Proof

Townley further challenges three statements the prosecutor made during her 

argument to the jury. In her opening argument, she said, "I want to highlight a couple of 

things about Townley being the shooter. I suspect most of you don't have much doubt in 

 

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Townley's attorney noted that "there were two people. Not just one. Not just Amanda 

Johnston. Noe Flores also testified, who's known Mr. Townley for over a year. Mr. 

Townley didn't speak Spanish. Mr. Flores did. So there are actually two people that 

established Mr. Townley does not speak Spanish." 
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your mind about whether he is the shooter."8 We do not regard this comment as a claim 

that the prosecutor professed to have personal knowledge of Townley's guilt, so the 

People's response is not helpful. Instead, Townley merely asserts that the prosecutor 

suggested she had a personal belief in his guilt and thus "lowered the burden to overcome 

doubt about this factual question." We disagree. The remark was brief and did not 

suggest that Townley had to refute her personal belief by presenting his own evidence. 

Moreover, the defense objection to it was sustained. The prosecutor then rephrased her 

comment to say, "Based on the evidence, all of the evidence you heard, the evidence 

doesn't support you[r] having a reasonable doubt as to whether . . . Townley was the 

shooter." 

The prosecutor introduced her closing argument by revisiting the concept of 

reasonable doubt: "[W]hat I want to tell you is [that] juries have worked with this for 

hundreds of years. It's not super-esoteric. It's a doubt to which you can assign a reason. 

And the reason that's so important is because [sic] jury deliberations are a group activity. 

You all will deliberate together. And in order for you to be able to effectively do that, it 

can't be a feeling, because it's very difficult to put feelings into words so that all of you 

folks can talk about it. So it has to be a reasonable doubt based on the evidence. So 

remember, it isn't a feeling like I feel like maybe something's amiss. It's something you 

can put your finger on and talk to your fellow jurors about." 

Townley (joined by Carranco) contends that this argument misstated the law in the 

same manner that the Supreme Court condemned in People v. Hill, supra, 17 Cal.4th at 

page 831. Reversal is not required, however. First, neither of the defense attorneys 

objected to the prosecutor's statement, thus forfeiting the issue. Secondly, the challenged 

remark was not comparable to the argument rejected in Hill. There, the prosecutor stated 

 

8

This comment has dubious relevance to Carranco's case, but as noted earlier, Carranco 

has joined wholesale in this section of Townley's brief. 
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that in order to have reasonable doubt, " 'you have to have a reason for this doubt. There 

has to be some evidence on which to base a doubt.' " (Id. at p. 831. ) The trial court 

clouded the picture further by not only overruling the defense attorney's objection, but 

also chastising him, thereby appearing to endorse the prosecutor's incorrect position and 

potentially biasing the jury against the defense. The prosecutor then continued: " 'There 

must be some evidence from which there is a reason for a doubt. You can't say, well, one 

of the attorneys said so.' (Italics added.)" (Id. at p. 831.)

Here the prosecutor did not affirmatively state that the defendant must have 

produced evidence to support a reasonable doubt; she said only that there must be a 

reasonable doubt based on the jurors' evaluation of the evidence presented. It is not 

reasonably likely that her statement would have been understood by the jury to mean that 

Townley had the burden of producing evidence to demonstrate a reasonable doubt of his 

guilt.

Later in her argument the prosecutor stated: "I want to remind you that the 

evidence doesn't have to eliminate any possible doubt. Just any reasonable doubt. That's 

all. That is all. There's always going to be possible doubts. But what an abiding 

conviction really is, what it boils down to, is it sits right in your gut. You feel okay, you 

feel good about the decision you made. Maybe some of you regret it later? Perhaps in a 

way. Perhaps some of you may feel badly about being involved in this trial. Something 

very violent happened to a nice guy. He was almost killed. Who wants to be a part of 

that? The Defendants are young. That is tragic. It's nothing short of tragic. But they 

made very adult decisions that night and, in fact, they made a very adult decision with 

somebody's life hanging in the balance. That is what they did that night." 

Townley argues that these statements lowered the burden of proof by "equat[ing] 

abiding conviction to a moral certainty with something that the jury feels 'okay' about or 

'good about the decision' even if '[m]aybe some of you regret it later.' " Again there was 

no objection by either attorney to the prosecutor's explanation. Townley misinterprets the 
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prosecutor's reference to regret; she was suggesting that some jurors might feel bad about 

convicting young people involved in a tragic event; yet they were making adult choices 

that almost cost an innocent person his life. Characterizing "abiding conviction" as a 

conviction that "sits right in your gut" is not equivalent to a mere hunch or "gut feeling." 

Thus, even if Townley had preserved this claim by a timely objection, we would find no 

basis for reversal. (Cf. People v. Barnett (1998) 17 Cal.4th 1044, 1156 [describing 

"beyond a reasonable doubt" as "that feeling, that conviction, that gut feeling that says 

yes, this man is guilty" was not a purported definition of "moral certainty" and did not

cause a misunderstanding of the reasonable doubt instruction].) As in Barnett, the trial 

court's instructions, together with the correct statements of the standard by both defense 

counsel, mitigated any misstep in the prosecutor's characterization of the standard of 

proof and emphasized the burden placed on the prosecution to prove every element 

beyond a reasonable doubt. Hence, we find no reasonable likelihood either that the jury 

construed the prosecutor's remarks as requiring the defendant to carry any burden of 

proof or that the jury misapplied the relevant law.

(4) Misstating Facts

Townley points to two instances he believes constituted misconduct by misstating 

facts. First, during opening argument the prosecutor was discussing Flores's declaration, 

and in particular his "mistake" about what he was wearing the night of the shooting. She 

stated, "When he was speaking with sheriff's deputies, they didn't make him any 

promises. They didn't tell him we'll cut you some slack if you come clean." The 

prosecutor went on to emphasize how reluctant Flores was to "come clean" and tell the 

officers what had happened. He did so, she pointed out, without distancing himself or 

minimizing his own role. She concluded, "There's nothing, nothing to suggest that he 

was doing anything but telling the truth that day. [¶] No promises from the D.A.'s office. 

He admitted that he understood what he had to do if he was called as a witness was to tell 

the truth. There's no evidence that he doesn't like these guys, that he'd want to set them 
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up for some reason. Nothing. He just met Carranco that night. There was no suggestion 

that he had any ill-will toward Townley, so why would he? Why would he set 'em up? 

He didn't get anything out of it. Again, deputies didn't promise him anything." 

Townley again forfeited any challenge to this alleged misstatement by failing to 

object. Were we to address the merits, we would reject the People's assertion that the 

prosecutor spoke accurately when she said Flores received no benefit from testifying. 

Although his declaration contained the statement that he did not have "an agreement to 

testify in exchange for telling the truth in this declaration," it also reflected the plea deal 

he had made with the district attorney. Nevertheless, the jury was fully aware of the 

negotiated disposition of Flores's case. At trial Flores acknowledged that he had pleaded 

to a reduced charge, that he might be called to testify, and that if called he would have the 

obligation to tell the truth. 

Townley also takes issue with the following statement by the prosecutor: "When 

people talk about going to prison for life, they are talking about killing somebody." The 

prosecutor was referring to Townley's statement to Fritts-Nash that he was "looking at 25 

to life." Townley contends that the comment "not only misstated the evidence, but . . . 

suggested that the prosecutor had evidence beyond the record to support her assertions." 

The prosecutor's statement was an illogical inference from the facts and an incorrect 

statement of the law. Nevertheless, defense counsel's objection was sustained, thus 

minimizing any harm.

(5) Sarcastic Remarks

Finally, Townley argues that the prosecutor made "a host of sarcastic comments in 

front of the jury," directed at defense witnesses as well as the attorneys. "A prosecutor 

commits misconduct if he or she attacks the integrity of defense counsel, or casts 

aspersions on defense counsel. [Citations.]" (People v. Hill, supra, 17 Cal.4th at p. 832; 

People v. Vance, supra, 188 Cal.App.4th at p. 1200.) " ' "An attack on the defendant’s 

attorney can be . . . seriously prejudicial as an attack on the defendant himself, and, in 
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view of the accepted doctrines of legal ethics and decorum [citation], it is never 

excusable." ' [Citation.]" (People v. Vance, supra, 188 Cal.App.4th at p. 1200.)

Townley specifically focuses on two incidents. The defense had called Laurie 

Kaminski, an expert in gunshot residue, who had watched a video showing Townley 

rubbing his hands together and touching his shirt. Kaminski suggested that gunshot 

residue might be transferred from the shirt to his hands. She also expressed the opinion 

that it can be misleading to try to establish the meaning of gunshot residue based on its 

location, because particles "redistribute themselves." Thus, residue on someone's hands 

could result from being near a gun when fired, or from handling a fired gun or fired 

ammunition. In cross-examining Kaminski, the prosecutor asked what the odds would be 

of contamination ending with the right hand having significantly more particles than the 

left hand or sleeve. Kaminski explained that there would be no way to estimate those 

odds. The prosecutor suggested, "Sure a curious coincidence, wouldn't you say?" A 

defense objection, "argumentative," was sustained. 

Even if this was an impermissible comment on the evidence, it was brief and 

insignificant, and in any event it was tempered by the ruling sustaining the objection. We 

find no harm from the offhand remark. 

The second comment occurred during closing argument, when the prosecutor was 

going over Carranco's participation and Townley's admissions to Fritts-Nash after the 

shooting. The trial court overruled an objection by Carranco's counsel to the depiction of 

Carranco as saving face by getting out of the car with the other two assailants. At that 

point the prosecutor said, "If I'm lucky, I can be accused of misconduct one more time." 

This sarcastic remark was clearly gratuitous, but it had no bearing on the issues, and it 

only cast the prosecutor in an even more pejorative light, making her appear petty and 

querulous. And when Carranco's attorney asked the court to strike her remark, the 

prosecutor responded with yet more petulance: "Perhaps you should admonish Counsel 

as [sic] to stop objecting on that [misconduct] basis." The trial court appropriately 
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curbed such fractiousness by telling the prosecutor to "Just finish the argument." No 

prejudice to Townley or Carranco resulted from the prosecutor's intemperate but selfdefeating conduct.

On the premise that misconduct occurred, Carranco further asserts prejudice to 

him, citing People v Vance, supra, 188 Cal.App.4th 1182.9 In Vance, as in Carranco's 

case, the defendant did not deny all culpability; Vance admitted he was there, and he 

conceded that he was guilty of at least involuntary manslaughter. The critical issue 

instead was whether Vance had the mental state required for first degree murder. It was 

that issue that was colored by the prosecutor's misconduct. But prejudice arose from the 

jury's having been exposed to the prosecutor's "egregious" or otherwise "utterly 

improper" remarks, compounded by the trial judge's "passive," improperly tepid 

response. (Id. at pp. 1200, 1201.) None of the objectionable remarks by the prosecutor 

here rose to a level comparable to what had occurred in Vance; consequently, we cannot 

agree that the jury's decision regarding Carranco's mental state was influenced adversely 

to Carranco by the prosecutor's conduct during trial. 

4. Trial Court's Comment on Flores's Credibility

During cross-examination of Flores and later in closing argument, defense counsel 

suggested that Flores had merely assented to the detectives' leading questions without 

independently recalling facts. In cross-examining Flores, counsel for both defendants 

brought out Flores's initial denial to the police that he had witnessed anything, along with 

questions apparently designed to suggest that (a) Flores was manipulated into admitting 

his participation in the crime and (b) Flores's plea bargain was an incentive for testifying 

 

9 We briefly address this assertion although it is outside the scope of the Supreme Court's 

remand. (See Cal. Rules of Court, rule 8.200(b)(2).) 
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against Townley and Carranco.10 The following colloquy took place in crossexamination by Carranco's attorney: "Q. And early on when you're talking to Detective 

Ramsey, you initially told him several times that you didn't know anything about this; is 

that correct?" After the prosecutor's objection was overruled, Flores answered "Yes" and 

counsel continued: "And Detective Ramsey, during that interview, conveyed to you that 

they already had some information about this situation; is that correct? [¶] A. Yes. [¶] 

Q. Detective Ramsey also told you he didn't believe your statement that you didn't know 

anything about this situation; is that correct? [¶] A. Yes. [¶] Q. Detective Ramsey at 

one point called you a stand-up guy; is that correct? [¶] [The prosecutor]: Your Honor, 

objection. Hearsay. It exceeds -- [¶] THE COURT: It's all irrelevant. Sustained." 

When Carranco's attorney tried to defend his question as relevant to Flores's state of 

mind, the court responded with the explanation challenged on appeal: "We've already 

established by everyone's agreement that whatever – most of what he told Detective 

Ramsey wasn't the truth, and that he told what he thinks characterizes the truth to 

Sergeant Sulay later in the interview. That's my understanding of the testimony in this 

case. I don't know where you're going with characterization and police tactics used by 

Detective Ramsey. And those aren't actually that relevant." 

Shortly thereafter, Carranco's attorney brought out Flores's acknowledgement that 

in the interrogation room he was nervous and scared and afraid of being locked up. The 

next question-- "And you asked detectives if you were going to be able to go home; is 

that correct?"—prompted an objection by the prosecutor on relevance grounds. Counsel 

responded, "Goes to the credibility of the statement that he's making." But the court 

disagreed, explaining that "[t]he credibility is what he's saying today, not what he said 

 

10 For example, Townley's attorney asked, "You indicated to Deputy Ramsey when you 

were initially talking to him you hadn't seen anything; is that correct? [¶] A. Yes. . . . 

[¶] Q. You hadn't witnessed – the way you used – 'I witnessed nothing'; is that correct? 

[¶] A. Yes. [¶] Q. You took the position, I didn't know what happened. [¶] A. Yes." 
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back when he was interviewed. You all have to use his interview for impeachment of 

different purposes, but the jury has to focus on whether his testimony today is truthful or 

not, and on the other indications here that they've heard." 

Carranco again joins in Townley's argument that these rulings violated his Sixth 

Amendment rights to present a defense and cross-examine witnesses, because the court 

improperly commented on the evidence and "cut-off [sic] reasonable attempts to 

demonstrate that [Flores's] testimony was the product of threats and promises of 

leniency." We reject this contention, as we find no impairment of either defendant's 

constitutional rights. The court was not declaring the police tactics irrelevant to Flores's 

credibility at trial; it was merely observing that it had already been established that Flores 

had not told the truth to the deputies when first interviewed. The colloquy did not 

significantly add to the jury's understanding of the defense position. 

The issue presented by Townley in this case is not comparable to the decisions on 

which he relies. Townley cites only one part of the holding in Crane v. Kentucky (1986) 

476 U.S. 683 (106 S.Ct. 2142), where the Supreme Court explained that the right to a fair 

trial was violated by the "blanket exclusion" of testimony about the circumstances of the 

defendant's confession. (Id. at p. 690.) The high court cited its earlier decision in which 

it had explained that while " 'the exposure of a witness'[s] motivation in testifying is a 

proper and important function of the constitutionally protected right of crossexamination,' " a defendant is not entitled to " 'cross- examination that is effective in 

whatever way, and to whatever extent, the defense might wish.' " (Delaware v. Van 

Arsdall (1986) 475 U.S. 673, 678-679 [106 S.Ct. 1431].) Accordingly, "trial judges 

retain wide latitude . . . to impose reasonable limits on such cross-examination based on 

concerns about, among other things, . . . interrogation that is repetitive or only marginally 

relevant." (Id. at p. 679.) California v. Green (1970) 399 U.S. 149, 158 also is not 

helpful to Townley; the cited holding merely confirms that "the Confrontation Clause is 

not violated by admitting a declarant's out-of-court statements, as long as the declarant is 
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testifying as a witness and subject to full and effective cross-examination." People v. 

Fierro (1991) 1 Cal.4th 173, 221 only offers the reminder that a prior inconsistent 

statement is admissible "not only to impeach credibility but also to prove the truth of the 

matters stated." And People v. Rodriguez (1986) 42 Cal.3d 730, 772 is inapposite 

because it addressed judicial comments to a deadlocked jury; indeed, the court 

emphasized that "accurate, temperate, nonargumentative, and scrupulously fair" 

commentary is not tantamount to coercing the deadlocked jurors into reaching a verdict. 

(Id. at p. 766.) "Accordingly, we have made clear that the trial court has broad latitude in 

fair commentary, so long as it does not effectively control the verdict. For example, it is 

settled that the court need not confine itself to neutral, bland, and colorless summaries, 

but may focus critically on particular evidence, expressing views about its 

persuasiveness." (Id. at p. 768.) The court in this case did not even go that far; not only 

were the coercive circumstances of a deadlocked jury absent here, but there was no 

comment beyond pointing out a fact that had already been established.

Nor is this case analogous to People v. Sturm (2006) 37 Cal.4th 1218. There the 

trial judge's comments during the penalty phase of trial told the jury that the defendant 

had been convicted of premeditated murder, which was not true. That inaccurate 

statement not only advanced the prosecutor's argument that the defendant had 

premeditated the murders, but "severely damaged" the defense position that lack of 

premeditation and deliberation was a mitigating factor in the penalty decision. (Id. at p. 

1232.) No such damage occurred here. The court's statement was accurate in that 

Flores's credibility on the witness stand was the critical point the jury had to determine. 

If his trial testimony was false, defense counsel could use the circumstances of his prior 

statement for impeachment; and Townley's attorney did so by bringing out the details of 

Flores's plea agreement with the prosecution. Defense counsel also stated in closing 

argument that Flores tended to agree with any suggestion made to him about the facts. 

The court acted to control the proceedings and minimize jury confusion by limiting 
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Carranco's cross-examination to testimony bearing on Flores's credibility at trial, 

curtailing his cross-examination on the veracity of the statements made to Detective 

Sulay. Neither Townley nor Carranco was deprived of a fair trial by the trial court's 

ruling. Furthermore, any potential jury misunderstanding would have been averted or 

corrected in the instruction with CALCRIM No. 318, which told the jurors that they 

could use the prior statement to evaluate whether Flores's trial testimony was true and 

whether his statements to the detectives were true.

Conclusion

On the record before us we are unable to discern a reasonable probability that, but 

for the interference with defense counsel's ability to discuss Flores's declaration with 

Carranco, the outcome of trial would have been different. (Strickland, supra, 466 U.S. at 

p. 694.) Whether additional evidence of prejudice exists outside the appellate record is 

not a question we can answer in this procedural posture. We further cannot find ground 

for reversal in the prosecutor's intemperate conduct during trial, the court's evidentiary 

exclusions, or the trial court's reference to a witness's credibility. 

Disposition

The judgment is affirmed.
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ELIA, J.

WE CONCUR:

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RUSHING, P. J.

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PREMO, J.