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WEIL, GOTSHAL & MANGES LLP

Stephen Karotkin (pro hac vice)

(stephen.karotkin@weil.com)

Ray C. Schrock, P.C. (pro hac vice)

(ray.schrock@weil.com)

Jessica Liou (pro hac vice)

(jessica.liou@weil.com) 

Matthew Goren (pro hac vice)

(matthew.goren@weil.com)

767 Fifth Avenue

New York, NY 10153-0119

Tel: 212 310 8000

Fax: 212 310 8007

KELLER & BENVENUTTI LLP

Tobias S. Keller (#151445)

(tkeller@kellerbenvenutti.com)

Jane Kim (#298192)

(jkim@kellerbenvenutti.com)

650 California Street, Suite 1900

San Francisco, CA 94108

Tel: 415 496 6723

Fax: 650 636 9251

Attorneys for Debtors and Debtors in Possession

UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT

NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA 

SAN FRANCISCO DIVISION

In re:

PG&E CORPORATION,

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PACIFIC GAS AND ELECTRIC

COMPANY,

Bankruptcy Case 

No. 19-30088 (DM)

Chapter 11

(Lead Case)(Jointly Administered)

DECLARATION OF MARK J. 

KAZMIEROWSKI IN SUPPORT OF 

APPLICATION OF DEBTORS PURSUANT TO 

11 U.S.C. § 327(a) AND FED. R. BANKR. P. 

2014(a) AND 2016 FOR AUTHORITY TO 

RETAIN AND EMPLOY WILLIS TOWERS 

WATSON US LLC AS HUMAN RESOURCE 

AND COMPENSATION CONSULTANTS NUNC 

PRO TUNC TO THE PETITION DATE

Date: September 11, 2019

Time: 9:30 a.m. (Pacific Time)

Place: United States Bankruptcy Court

Courtroom 17, 16th Floor

San Francisco, CA 94102

Debtors.

 Affects PG&E Corporation 

 Affects Pacific Gas and Electric 

Company 

 Affects both Debtors

* All papers shall be filed in the Lead 

Case, No. 19-30088 (DM). 

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Pursuant 28 U.S.C. § 1746, I, Mark J. Kazmierowski, hereby declare as follows:

I am a Senior Director of the firm Willis Towers Watson US LLC f/k/a Towers Watson Delaware 

Inc. (“WTW” or the “Firm”), with principal offices located at 345 California Street, Suite 2000, San 

Francisco, CA 94104 -2612.

I submit this Declaration in connection with the Application of Debtors Pursuant to 11 U.S.C. § 

327(a) and Fed. R. Bankr. P. 2014(a) and 2016 for Authority to Retain and Employ Willis Towers 

Watson US LLC as Human Resource and Compensation Consultants to the Debtors Nunc Pro Tunc to 

Petition Date, submitted on the date hereof (the “Application”),1 of PG&E Corporation (“PG&E 

Corp.”) and Pacific Gas and Electric Company (the “Utility”), as debtors and debtors in possession 

(collectively, the “Debtors”) in the above-captioned chapter 11 cases (the “Chapter 11 Cases”), for 

authority to employ and retain WTW as human resource and compensation consultants, effective as of 

January 29, 2019 (the “Petition Date”), at its normal hourly rate in effect from time to time and in 

accordance with its normal reimbursement policies, in compliance with section 327(a) of title 11 of the 

United States Code (the “Bankruptcy Code”), and to provide the disclosure required under Rules 

2014(a) and 2016 of the Federal Rules of Bankruptcy Procedure (the “Bankruptcy Rules”) and the 

Bankruptcy Local Rules for the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California (the 

“Bankruptcy Local Rules”). 

Unless otherwise stated in this Declaration, I have personal knowledge of the facts set forth 

herein. To the extent any information disclosed herein requires amendment or modification upon 

WTW’s completion of further review, or as additional information regarding parties in interest becomes 

available, a supplemental declaration will be submitted to the Court reflecting such amended, 

supplemented or otherwise modified information.

Neither I, WTW, nor any associate of the Firm involved in performing work for the Debtors 

performs services for any entity other than the Debtors in connection with these Chapter 11 Cases. In 

addition, except as set forth herein, to the best of my knowledge, after due inquiry, neither I, WTW, nor 

any partner of, counsel to, or associate of the Firm performs services for any party in interest in these 

 1 Capitalized terms used but not otherwise herein defined have the meanings ascribed to such terms in 

the Application.

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I. WTW’S QUALIFICATIONS

WTW is an international professional services firm that offers a wide variety of services to public 

and private clients, including expert analysis of executive and management compensation. WTW 

designs and delivers solutions that manage risk, optimize benefits, and cultivate talent to protect and 

strengthen institutions and individuals. WTW focuses on four key business segments: corporate risk and 

broking, human capital and benefits, exchange solutions, and investment, risk and reinsurance.

II. SCOPE OF SERVICES

The Debtors propose that WTW be employed upon the terms and conditions set forth in (i) that 

certain engagement letter dated December 10, 2018, and (ii) that certain statement of work (the “SOW”) 

under that certain Master Services Agreement number 4400009506 (the “MSA”), and attached hereto as 

Exhibits 1-A through 1-C (collectively, the “Engagement Agreements”). Pursuant to the Engagement 

Agreements, the Debtors retained WTW to assist in the formulation of necessary adjustments to the 

incentive-based components of their employee compensation programs to address, among other things, 

the commencement of these Chapter 11 Cases. 

After WTW was retained, WTW familiarized itself with the Debtors’ operations and business 

goals and reviewed the structure of the Debtors’ existing base salary and primary incentive programs. 

Since the start of WTW’s engagement, WTW collaborated with the Debtors’ management to formulate 

the short-term incentive plan for the 2019 calendar year (the “2019 STIP”) and developed an 

independent assessment of the Debtors’ 2019 STIP based upon relevant market data and WTW’s 

experience designing comparable programs for similarly-situated companies. Pursuant to the 

Engagement Agreements and that certain SOW (as defined below), WTW has also provided services to 

the Debtors in connection with the development of benchmarking and straw model materials related to 

the proposed Key Employee Incentive Program (the “KEIP”), benchmarking materials related to the 

compensation of the Debtors’ recently retained chief executive officer, and benchmarking and design 

consulting on outside Board of Director compensation.

The Debtors also employ WTW in the ordinary course of their business entirely unrelated to the 

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pendency of these Chapter 11 Cases and in the same manner and for the same or similar services as those 

conducted by WTW prior to the Petition Date. Such services include, but are not limited to, reporting 

services related to the Debtors’ retirement programs, services related to the Debtors’ pension 

administration, services related to the review of worker’s compensation claims, pharmacy benefit 

management services, and audit services of leave and disability claim processes. These services are 

employed under terms and conditions set forth in distinct contract work authorizations by and between 

the Debtors and WTW, issued pursuant to the MSA and are not the subject of this Application and shall 

be continued in the ordinary course.

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In addition to the foregoing, at the request of the Debtors, WTW may provide additional services 

deemed appropriate and necessary to benefit the Debtors’ estates. Should WTW agree in its discretion 

to undertake any such matter that is outside the services conducted by WTW in the ordinary course of 

business and unrelated to the Chapter 11 Cases, WTW and the Debtors will seek separate retention orders 

with regard to any such additional agreements and the services provided therein will not be subject to 

the fee limit described below.

Since the Petition Date, WTW has been working to provide the Debtors with the necessary 

consulting services as described above, many of which were time-sensitive and required WTW to 

commence work immediately. During that time, WTW has worked in good faith with the Debtors and 

their counsel to finalize the Application based on the understanding that retention applications are being 

submitted for approval to the Court on a rolling basis. WTW has identified the services the Debtors 

believe are necessary to be continued post-petition, has run an extensive conflicts check, and has assisted 

the Debtors in preparation of the Application and related materials, each of which took significant time 

and effort.

III. WTW’S DISCLOSURE PROCEDURES

WTW, which employs approximately 45,000 associates has a large and diversified consulting 

practice and provides consulting services for many financial institutions and commercial corporations

however, a limited group of seven employees are involved in the work described in the Scope of Services 

 2 Copies of the distinct contract work authorizations are available from the Debtors upon request. 

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(“Restructuring Services Team”). In addition, the Restructuring Services Team and certain 

administrative staff are the only individuals who have access to the Restructuring Services Team’s work 

files. Access to these files can only be granted by myself and two other individuals. WTW has, in the 

past, performed services for, currently performs services for, and may, in the future, perform services 

for, entities that are claimants or interest holders of the Debtors in matters unrelated to these Chapter 11 

Cases. Some of those entities are, or may consider themselves to be, creditors or parties in interest in 

these Chapter 11 Cases or otherwise have interests in these cases. 

In preparing this Declaration, a general inquiry was sent by electronic mail to the Restructuring 

Services Team and, in an abundance of caution, all WTW personnel involved in performing ordinary 

course all WTW personnel involved in performing work for the Debtors to determine whether any such 

individuals or any members of their households have (i) any connection or relationship with individuals 

or entities that may be parties in interest in these Chapter 11 Cases;3 (ii) own any debt or equity securities 

of the Debtors; (iii) hold a claim against or interest adverse to the Debtors; (iv) are or were officers, 

directors, or employees of the Debtors or any of the affiliates or subsidiaries; (v) are related to or have 

any connections to Bankruptcy Judges in the Northern District of California; or (vi) are related to or have 

any connections to anyone working in the Office of the United States Trustee for the Northern District 

of California (the “U.S. Trustee”). Additionally, any WTW personnel that may join the Restructuring 

Services Team or review the Restructuring Services Team’s work product will be required to undergo 

the same evaluation to determine disinterestedness as described herein.

IV. WTW’S CONNECTIONS WITH THE DEBTORS

WTW compiled responses to the foregoing inquiries for the purpose of preparing this 

Declaration. Responses to the inquiry described above reflect that, as of the Petition Date, no WTW 

personnel involved in performing work for the Debtors or member of the household of any WTW 

personnel involved in performing work for the Debtors holds any claims against, direct stock ownership 

of, or other interests in the Debtors and that no such individuals held significant employment with the 

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in these Chapter 11 Cases, WTW supplied to all WTW personnel involved in performing work for the 

Debtors that comprise the categories listed on Schedule 1 annexed hereto (the “Retention Checklist”). 

This list was provided by the Debtors in the format in which they maintain the list.

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Debtors. Since the 1960’s, WTW has advised the Debtors regarding various Human Resource, Benefits

and Compensation related issues facing the Debtors. As a result of its prepetition service to the Debtors, 

WTW has gained additional insight into the current condition of the Debtors’ business operations. 

Accordingly, WTW possesses the necessary background to address the potential issues that may arise in 

the context of the Debtors’ Chapter 11 Cases

V. WTW’S CONNECTIONS WITH PARTIES IN INTEREST IN MATTERS 

UNRELATED TO THESE CHAPTER 11 CASES

WTW does not hold or perform services for an interest that is adverse to the Debtors’ estates and 

that WTW is a “disinterested person” as such term is defined in section 101(14) of the Bankruptcy Code, 

as modified by section 1107(b) of the Bankruptcy Code, for the reasons discussed below.

In addition to the foregoing, through diligent inquiry, I have ascertained no connection among 

the personal involved in performing work for the Debtors, as such term is used in section 101(14)(C) of 

the Bankruptcy Code, as modified by section 1107(b), and Bankruptcy Rule 2014(a), between (i) WTW

personnel involved in performing work for the Debtors and parties on the Retention Checklist; (ii) the 

U.S. Trustee or any person employed by the U.S. Trustee, (iii) any attorneys, accountants, or financial 

consultants in these Chapter 11 Cases, or (iv) any investment bankers who perform services for or may 

perform services for the Debtors, claimants, or other parties in interest in these Chapter 11 Cases, except 

as set forth herein and on the Disclosure Schedule. As part of its practice, WTW appears in cases, 

proceedings, and transactions involving many different attorneys, accountants, financial consultants, and 

investment bankers, some of whom now, or may in the future, perform services for claimants and other 

parties in interest in these cases. WTW personal involved in performing work for the Debtors have not 

performed services for, and will not perform services for, any such parties in relation to the Debtors or 

their Chapter 11 Cases. 

Additionally, WTW has performed services for, and may currently perform services for, entities 

that hold, or may, in the future, hold certain of the Debtors’ debt in beneficial accounts on behalf of 

unidentified parties. Because distressed debt is actively traded in commercial markets, WTW may be 

unaware of the actual holder of such debt at any given moment. WTW also performs services for

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numerous entities in unrelated matters that may buy and/or sell distressed debt, claims, or equity interests 

of chapter 11 debtors. Similarly, as a large firm, WTW may perform services for creditors/investors of 

or parties interested in investing in one or more parties in interest in these cases. WTW does not believe 

these relationships perform services for interests adverse to the estate.

Despite the efforts described herein to identify and disclose WTW’s connections with the parties 

in interest in these Chapter 11 Cases, and because the Debtors have numerous relationships, WTW is 

unable to state with certainty that every client relationship or other connection has been disclosed. In 

this regard if any new material, relevant facts, or relationships are discovered or arise, WTW will 

promptly file a supplemental disclosure with the Court.

VI. WTW IS DISINTERESTED

Based on the foregoing, insofar as I have been able to ascertain after diligent inquiry, I believe 

WTW does not hold or perform services for an interest adverse to the Debtors’ estates in the matters 

upon which WTW is to be employed, and that WTW is “disinterested” as such term is defined in section 

101(14) of the Bankruptcy Code, as modified by section 1107(b) of the Bankruptcy Code.

WTW is not a creditor of the Debtors. During the ninety (90) day period prior to the Petition 

Date, WTW received payments in the amount of $409,837.23 for services rendered.

VII. NO DUPLICATION OF SERVICES

The services of WTW will complement, and not duplicate, the services being rendered by other 

professionals retained in these Chapter 11 Cases. WTW understands that the Debtors have retained and 

may retain additional professionals during the term of the engagement. WTW will work cooperatively 

with such professionals to integrate any respective work conducted by the professionals on behalf of the 

Debtors. 

VIII. PROFESSIONAL COMPENSATION 

WTW will apply to the Court for allowances and reimbursement of expenses in accordance with 

the applicable provisions of the Bankruptcy Code, the Bankruptcy Rules, the Bankruptcy Local Rules, 

the United States Bankruptcy Court Northern District of California Guidelines for Compensation and 

Expense Reimbursement of Professionals and Trustees, effective February 19, 2014 (the “Local 

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Guidelines”), the U.S. Trustee Guidelines for Reviewing Applications for Compensation and 

Reimbursement of Expenses Filed under 11 U.S.C. § 330 by Attorneys in Larger Chapter 11 Cases, 

effective November 1, 2013 (the “U.S. Trustee Guidelines,” and together with the Local Guidelines, 

the “Fee Guidelines”), the Order Pursuant to 11 U.S.C. §§ 331 and 105(a) and Fed. R. Bankr. P. 2016 

for Authority to Establish Procedures for Interim Compensation and Reimbursement of Expenses of 

Professionals [Docket No. 701] and any further Orders of the Court in these Chapter 11 Cases regarding 

professional compensation and reimbursement of expenses (the “Orders”).

Subject to the provisions of the Bankruptcy Code, Bankruptcy Rules, the Bankruptcy Local 

Rules, the Fee Guidelines, and the Orders, the Debtors propose to compensate WTW as contemplated in 

the Engagement Agreements on an hourly basis subject to the fee limit as described below.

Hourly Fees

Pursuant to the Engagement Agreements, WTW will charge the Debtors on a time and expense 

basis and previously received an initial retainer in the amount of $150,000. WTW may apply the initial 

retainer to fees as they are approved by the Court. Billing rates are evaluated periodically to ensure they 

are consistent with market practice and may change over time. The current hourly rates for the levels of 

personnel expected to work on this matter are as follows:

Position Rate

Managing Director $1,000 - $1,200

Senior Director $800 - $1,000

Director $600 - $800

Analyst / Other Associates $175 - $615

Fee Limits

Pursuant to the Engagement Agreements, WTW has agreed to cap its fees payable under the 

engagement pursuant to Exhibit 1-C at $474,338. As of the date hereof, WTW has not received any 

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payments under the Engagement Agreements.4

WTW recognizes and has agreed to accept as compensation such sums as may be allowed by the 

Court and understands that interim and final fee awards are subject to approval by the Court. 

The compensation structure described above and set forth in the Engagement Agreements is 

consistent with the compensation generally charged to companies similar to WTW for comparable 

engagements, both in and out of bankruptcy. Furthermore, the compensation structure is consistent with 

WTW’s normal and customary billing practices for cases of comparable size and complexity requiring 

the level and scope of services to be provided in these Chapter 11 Cases. 

Additionally, in accordance with the terms of the Engagement Agreements, WTW will invoice 

the Debtors for its reasonable out-of-pocket expenses charged during these Chapter 11 Cases, which 

include, among other things, telephone and other charges, mail and express mail charges, travel 

expenses, expenses for “working meals” and computerized research, applicable sales, use or value added 

tax, as well as non-ordinary costs such as secretarial and other overtime.

It is not the practice of WTW’s professionals to keep detailed time records in one-tenth-of-anhour increments (i.e., six minute increments) as customarily kept by attorneys who are compensated 

subject to approval of the Bankruptcy Court. Instead, the customary practice of WTW’s professionals 

is to keep reasonably detailed records of services rendered during the course of an engagement in fifteen 

minute (0.25) increments. Thus, WTW requests that this Court allow WTW’s professionals to provide 

the following in its monthly, interim, and final fee applications: (a) a narrative summarizing each project 

category and the services rendered under each project category; (b) as an exhibit to each monthly, 

interim, and final fee application that WTW files in these Chapter 11 Cases, a summary, by project 

category, of services rendered to the Debtors, which identifies each professional rendering services, the 

number of hours expended by each professional, and the amount of compensation requested with respect 

to the services rendered by each professional; and (c) reasonably detailed records of time in fifteen 

minute (0.25) increments, describing the services rendered by each professional and the amount of time 

spent on each date.

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Debtors pursuant to the Engagement Agreements.

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No promises have been received by WTW, or any partner, counsel, or associate of WTW, as to 

payment or compensation in connection with these Chapter 11 Cases other than in accordance with the 

provisions of the Bankruptcy Code, the Bankruptcy Rules, the Bankruptcy Local Rules, and the Fee 

Guidelines. Furthermore, WTW has no agreement with any other entity to share compensation received 

by WTW or by such entity. 

The Application requests approval of WTW’s retention on rates, terms, and conditions consistent 

with what WTW charges non-chapter 11 debtors, namely, prompt payment of WTW’s hourly rates, as 

adjusted from time to time, and reimbursement of out-of-pocket disbursements at cost or based on 

formulas that approximate the actual cost where the actual cost is not easily ascertainable. Subject to 

these terms and conditions, WTW intends to apply for allowance of compensation for professional 

services rendered in these Chapter 11 Cases and for reimbursement of actual and necessary expenses 

relating thereto, in accordance with the applicable provisions of the Bankruptcy Code, the Bankruptcy 

Rules, the Bankruptcy Local Rules, and the Fee Guidelines.

IX. INDEMNIFICATION 

As part of the overall compensation payable to WTW under the terms of certain of the 

Engagement Agreements, the Debtors have agreed to certain indemnification obligations as described in 

such Engagement Agreements. The terms of the Engagement Agreements and the indemnification 

provisions contained therein were fully negotiated in good faith and at arm’s length.

X. LIMITATION OF LIABILITY

Certain Engagement Agreements also contain standard limitations of liability provisions with 

respect to WTW’s services. Such provisions are customary and reasonable terms of consideration for 

professionals such as WTW for proceedings both out of court and in chapter 11. The terms and 

conditions of the Engagement Agreements, including the limitation of liability provisions, were 

negotiated by the Debtors and WTW at arm’s length and in good faith. The Debtors respectfully submit 

that the limitation of liability provisions contained in the Engagement Agreements are reasonable and in 

the best interest of the Debtors, their estates, creditors, shareholders, and all other parties interest. 

Accordingly, as part of this Application, the Debtors request that the Court approve the limitation of 

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1 The foregoing constitutes the statement of WTW pursuant to section 327(a) of the 

2 Bankruptcy Code and Bankruptcy Rules 2014(a) and 2016. 

3 I declare under penalty of perjury that, to the best ofmy knowledge and after reasonable inquiry, 

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