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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL

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NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR OCCUPATIONAL

SAFETY AND HEALTH

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ADVISORY BOARD ON RADIATION AND

WORKER HEALTH

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87th MEETING

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MONDAY, NOVEMBER 5, 2012

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 The meeting convened 

telephonically at 11:00 a.m., Eastern Standard 

Time, James M. Melius, Chairman, presiding.

PRESENT:

JAMES M. MELIUS, Chairman

HENRY ANDERSON, Member

JOSIE BEACH, Member

R. WILLIAM FIELD, Member

MARK GRIFFON, Member

DAVID KOTELCHUCK, Member

JAMES E. LOCKEY, Member

WANDA I. MUNN, Member

JOHN W. POSTON, SR., Member

DAVID B. RICHARDSON, Member

GENEVIEVE S. ROESSLER, Member

PHILLIP SCHOFIELD, Member

LORETTA R. VALERIO, Member

PAUL L. ZIEMER, Member

TED KATZ, Designated Federal Official
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REGISTERED AND/OR PUBLIC COMMENT PARTICIPANTS

ADAMS, NANCY, NIOSH Contractor

AL-NABULSI, ISAF, DOE

BARRIE, TERRIE

BATT, CHRISTINA, CDC

DETWEILER, NORA, Brookhaven National Lab

HINNEFELD, STU, DCAS

KINMAN, JOSH, DCAS Contractor

KOTSCH, JEFF, DOL 

LIN, JENNY, HHS

NETON, JIM, DCAS

STIVER, JOHN, SC&A

WARREN, BOB
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TABLE OF CONTENTS

Page No.

Recording of Absentee Votes 5 

Petition Status Update 8 

Updates from Work Groups and Subcommittees 11

Board Correspondence 18
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1 P-R-O-C-E-E-D-I-N-G-S 

2 11:00 a.m.

3 MR. KATZ: Okay, let's get 

4 started, at least let's get roll call going. 

5 So, we'll begin with Board Members. 

6 We don't have any SECs on the 

7 agenda for action today, so I don't think I 

8 need to address conflict of interest, because 

9 we don't have any items related to that. So, 

10 this should be simple.

11 But, let me run the roll call.

12 (Roll call.)

13 MR. KATZ: Okay, so be it, we have 

14 more than a quorum. Very good.

15 The Board agenda is on the NIOSH 

16 website under the meeting section today's 

17 date, and it's a pretty simple agenda, no 

18 action items on it.

19 And, Jim, it's your agenda.

20 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: The first item 

21 on the agenda is, actually, I have as 

22 recording absent votes, so Ted?
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1 MR. KATZ: Right, exactly.

2 So, we had Board votes at the 

3 Denver meeting in September on seven different 

4 SECs, and this is just to record votes, to 

5 complete the votes considering the absentee 

6 Members. So, I'll just run down the list, and 

7 these votes were completed as of October 16th, 

8 which set in motion then letters of the Board 

9 to the Secretary on these.

10 So, we have Oak Ridge National 

11 Laboratory. That was a unanimous decision to 

12 approve the petition, including the missing 

13 Members' votes.

14 Los Alamos National Laboratory, 

15 that was 13 in favor, one against, to approve 

16 the petition.

17 Weldon Spring, that was 13 to 4 to 

18 deny the petition. 

19 There was a Mound 83.14, that was 

20 unanimous to approve the petition.

21 A Mound 83.13, was unanimous to 

22 deny the petition.
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1 A United Nuclear, that was 16 in 

2 favor and one opposed, in favor of denying the 

3 petition.

4 And, Nuclear Metals, Corp., that 

5 was unanimous to approve the petition.

6 And, that completes the votes. 

7 And, the recusals for these, Oak Ridge 

8 National Lab were Lockey, Poston, Ziemer. 

9 For Los Alamos, Poston, Schofield 

10 and Valerio. 

11 For Weldon Spring, Beach -- oh, 

12 no, those aren't -- no recusals for Weldon 

13 Spring, excuse me.

14 MEMBER LOCKEY: Ted?

15 MR. KATZ: Yes.

16 MEMBER LOCKEY: Jim Lockey, I'm 

17 sorry. I had trouble with my phone. I 

18 couldn't --

19 MR. KATZ: Okay, welcome.

20 MEMBER LOCKEY: Okay.

21 MR. KATZ: Glad to have you.

22 For Mound Gibson and Lockey 
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1 recused, both of the Mound actions.

2 And, no recusals for the remaining 

3 two, United Nuclear and Nuclear Metals.

4 And, that completes the vote 

5 registration for the September meeting.

6 Back to you, Jim.

7 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Okay. Thanks, 

8 Ted.

9 Our next item on our agenda is the 

10 petition status update, LaVon?

11 MR. HINNEFELD: This is Stu 

12 Hinnefeld. I'm going to try and cover for 

13 Bomber on this, because he's preparing to 

14 travel, and is, actually, not feeling that 

15 great either. So, he's in for a rough week, 

16 I'm afraid.

17 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: I thought he was 

18 embarrassed because of the Battelle report 

19 that he promised us.

20 MR. HINNEFELD: Well, he contends 

21 that he never promised it. So --

22 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Oh, I don't 
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1 know. I've got the transcript here, I'll look 

2 it up.

3 MR. HINNEFELD: Battelle is moving 

4 along, it would be awfully close, we think, to 

5 the Board meeting.

6 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: No, that's fine.

7 That's fine.

8 MR. HINNEFELD: We didn't think it 

9 would be there in time for the Board to have a 

10 look at.

11 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: That's -- we 

12 appreciate that part also.

13 MR. HINNEFELD: Okay. There are 

14 three items that we give these Evaluation 

15 Reports to the Board. These we are confident 

16 will make it.

17 One is the Savannah River Site 

18 Addendum. This addendum addresses thorium 

19 exposures after 1972.

20 Joslyn Manufacturing is our 

21 initial presentation of an 83.13 petition from 

22 Joslyn Manufacturing. I believe that is a 
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1 metal firm in Fort Wayne, Indiana.

2 And, the Battelle King Avenue 

3 facility, which is in Columbus, Ohio, we'll be 

4 bringing our initial Evaluation Report for an 

5 83.14 petition for Battelle King Avenue for a 

6 limited period of years. This is for some --

7 I think it goes up through about the mid '50s, 

8 period of evaluation.

9 MR. KATZ: Stu, let me just 

10 interrupt a second. For people on the phone, 

11 I normally give this advice but I didn't on 

12 the front end of this call. Please mute your 

13 phones, except for those who are, actually, 

14 speaking. And, if you don't have a mute 

15 button, if you press *6 that will mute your 

16 phone. Pressing *6 again will take your phone 

17 off of mute. But, please, mute your phones, 

18 everyone but the person who is speaking to the 

19 Board at the time.

20 Thank you.

21 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Stu, did you 

22 have anything else?
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1 MR. HINNEFELD: No, those three 

2 are the three Evaluation Reports we expect to 

3 be new for the December Board meeting. Any 

4 other actions I think would come as a result 

5 of Work Group meetings that might occur 

6 between now and then.

7 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Okay. Board 

8 Members, do you have any questions for Stu on 

9 those? Okay.

10 Thanks, Stu, and tell LaVon we 

11 hope he feels better.

12 MR. HINNEFELD: I certainly will. 

13 Thanks.

14 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Okay. Updates 

15 from Work Groups and Subcommittees? Anybody, 

16 any chairs of any Work Group or Subcommittee 

17 that wish to provide updates?

18 MEMBER MUNN: Yes, Jim, this is 

19 Wanda.

20 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Okay.

21 MEMBER MUNN: Subcommittee on 

22 Procedures Review met November the 1st at 
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1 Cincinnati, and had a rather full agenda.

2 We covered a variety of issues. 

3 We are pleased to report that the Board 

4 reporting system is in good operating 

5 condition. It suffers from occasional digital 

6 malaise that I think all of our systems do, 

7 but for the most part it's functioning very 

8 well.

9 It's being populated with an 

10 additional set of White Papers and related 

11 materials, so that we will have better 

12 opportunities to access those materials 

13 quickly, and while we are in session. That's 

14 moving along at a fairly brisk rate.

15 We are looking at a number of 

16 PERs, several OTIBs. Our report for the 

17 totals that we are tracking has changed a 

18 little bit, enough to be significant to us. 

19 Our total number of findings that we are 

20 dealing with remains at 576.

21 We have closed 345 of those. We 

22 have in abeyance, which means we have finished 
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1 with them and they are simply waiting for the 

2 final documentation to come out, is total of 

3 about 81 or 14 percent of the number that we 

4 have total.

5 And, we have addressed that issue 

6 another time for about 23 of those, so we have 

7 a total of 449 closed as far as we are 

8 concerned, and that's about 80 percent, just 

9 over 75 percent. We are pleased with the 

10 progress we are making.

11 Our Designated Federal Official 

12 suggested that, perhaps, as we close some of 

13 these major items, it might be a good idea to 

14 report that out to the Board. So, we have two 

15 items to relay to you today that we believe we 

16 have put to bed.

17 One is OTIB-70, which I remember 

18 the crucial findings that you may recall, we 

19 had multiple findings regarding residual 

20 periods. And those dose reconstruction factors 

21 for clean-up.

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1 have now closed is the source term 

2 depreciation rate that's changed from .01 per

3 day to .00067 per day. 

4 And, the OTIB system that's 

5 completed, including the removal of the 

6 superfluous unused attachment fee, which was 

7 in the original document that's now come out, 

8 so that we have a good clean OTIB to work 

9 with.

10 We've also dealt with the ER-12, 

11 which was the evaluation of highly insoluble 

12 plutonium compounds.

13 The Dose Reconstruction Committee 

14 has selected cases for us to review in detail, 

15 nine of them. Two of them were repeats of the 

16 same case, and so eight cases were done in 

17 real detail.

18 They focused on Type M and Type S 

19 plutonium, and Dose Reconstruction procedures 

20 were verified in accordance with OTIB-49. 

21 There were no findings, that review is closed, 

22 created for OTIB-49 is a major factor in the 
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1 No Findings Report, and it's been described as 

2 an excellent workbook, so we are pleased with 

3 the report to SC&A.

4 Our next meeting is scheduled in 

5 February, I believe February 5th, Tuesday, 

6 February 5th, in Cincinnati, and that is the 

7 total of our report.

8 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Okay. Thank 

9 you, Wanda.

10 Any questions for Wanda?

11 Okay. Any other Work Group or 

12 Subcommittee chairs wish to report?

13 MEMBER ZIEMER: This is Ziemer. I 

14 can report on TBD-6000.

15 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Okay.

16 MEMBER ZIEMER: Our Work Group is 

17 scheduled to meet November 28th. We will be 

18 focusing on the General Steel Industries' 

19 petition following up on the materials that we 

20 presented to the Board at the last meeting, 

21 which had to do with the use of surrogate data 

22 on the GSI site, and some related issues. We 
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1 are hopeful that we'll able to do complete the 

2 recommendation on the petition itself in time 

3 for the next full Board meeting.

4 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Okay, great. 

5 Good.

6 Any other Work Group chairs that 

7 wish to report?

8 Okay, then --

9 MEMBER GRIFFON: This is Mark.

10 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Okay, hey, Mark.

11 MEMBER GRIFFON: Just a quick 

12 note. I mean, this isn't really a Work Group 

13 meeting, but LaVon and SC&A, and I'm going to 

14 join them, we are going to Rocky Flats in the 

15 next two days, and there's going to be some 

16 interviews in follow up to the new petition 

17 that's out there.

18 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Okay.

19 MEMBER GRIFFON: So, that's work 

20 for our future Work Group meeting, I'm sure, 

21 and I hope he's not too sick, because I don't 

22 want to get sick.
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1 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Okay. Good. 

2 Okay.

3 Any other updates?

4 MEMBER BEACH: Jim, this is Josie. 

5 I'll go ahead and following up on what Mark 

6 just said.

7 Kansas City we are going to be 

8 visiting the site there the first week of 

9 December to do some on-site interviews and 

10 data capture as well with SC&A and NIOSH.

11 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Okay. Good.

12 Anybody else?

13 MEMBER BEACH: And again, this is 

14 Josie, Worker Outreach meets this week on 

15 Thursday. I think we should be able to wrap 

16 up our review of Rocky Flats, and possibly 

17 pick a new site to review.

18 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Okay. Very 

19 good. So, you got your -- you are getting 

20 your NIOSH report?

21 MEMBER BEACH: Yes, we just got it, 

22 actually.
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1 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Okay.

2 MEMBER BEACH: Yes.

3 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Very good.

4 Any other Work Group updates?

5 Okay. Board correspondence? I 

6 don't believe we have anything new that's come 

7 in since our last meeting.

8 And, Ted, do you want to update us 

9 on the December Board meeting?

10 MR. KATZ: Sure, Jim.

11 We have -- we had a little hiccup 

12 in the hotel arrangements by CDC, and so we 

13 have a small change in venue.

14 We are going to be meeting, not in 

15 Oak Ridge proper, but in Knoxville, for the 

16 December meeting, which is December 11 and 12.

17 And, we'll be sending out 

18 information on the hotel as soon as the sort 

19 of pre-contact agreement is in place. But, it 

20 will be -- so, don't call the hotel yet, but 

21 it will be the Knoxville Hilton. And, that's 

22 about less than 30 minutes from Oak Ridge, 
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1 and, apparently, quite a few people from Oak 

2 Ridge live in the Knoxville area. So, I am 

3 hopeful that that will be convenient for some 

4 folks from Oak Ridge.

5 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: One of the 

6 problems with Oak Ridge we ran into were 

7 holiday parties, which were taking the rooms 

8 up that we would normally be able to utilize 

9 for the meeting rooms that we normally 

10 utilize.

11 MR. KATZ: Right, thanks, Jim.

12 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Yes. We'll have 

13 to remember, I guess remember that when we 

14 schedule or something.

15 So anyway, we will plan on the 

16 two-day meeting in December. We'll try to put 

17 together the agenda. It's hard to tell, but 

18 it will probably be the full -- I expect the 

19 full two days, given that we have the three 

20 new SECs, plus some other ones we are 

21 finishing up. But, we'll put that together as 

22 we can.
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1 And, as Ted said, he'll get the 

2 notice out on the hotel and other 

3 arrangements, but I think -- assume we can 

4 plan on flying in and out of Knoxville for the 

5 meeting.

6 And, I think that's all the 

7 business we have on the agenda this time.

8 Anything else, Ted, we need to be 

9 updated on?

10 MR. KATZ: No, no, that covers it.

11 And, as Jim says, we'll be getting 

12 out a draft agenda for the Board Members for 

13 the December meeting shortly, because we, 

14 actually, have to get a Federal Register 

15 notice out pretty quickly.

16 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Okay.

17 MR. KATZ: So, we'll take care of 

18 that.

19 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Okay, good.

20 MEMBER RICHARDSON: This is Dave. 

21 A question. You said that it would be the 

22 full two days, meaning that we should fly in 
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1 Sunday night?

2 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: No, Monday 

3 night.

4 MEMBER RICHARDSON: I'm sorry, 

5 Monday night, okay, for Tuesday and Wednesday. 

6 That's fine.

7 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: For Tuesday and 

8 Wednesday, yes.

9 MEMBER RICHARDSON: Okay, fine.

10 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Yes. 

11 Originally, we had it on the calendars as a 

12 possibility of a three-day meeting, and for 

13 some reason Thursday was not feasible for some 

14 Board Members. So, we originally had it down 

15 for Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, but Monday --

16 we will not be meeting Monday. So, it's 

17 Tuesday and Wednesday.

18 MEMBER RICHARDSON: Very good, 

19 okay, thanks.

20 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: And, if we can, 

21 if you plan coming in the night before, and if 

22 we can we'll, you know, probably finish up 
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1 some time, you know, Wednesday afternoon, but 

2 that probably won't be early. You know, I 

3 don't think we can finish up Wednesday 

4 morning. So, it will probably be later in the 

5 afternoon or early evening.

6 MEMBER RICHARDSON: Okay. No 

7 problem.

8 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: For those to fly 

9 out.

10 MEMBER RICHARDSON: Okay.

11 MEMBER KOTELCHUCK: Jim, Wednesday 

12 afternoon fly out around 5:00, is that what 

13 you are thinking?

14 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Yes, 5:00 or 

15 6:00 is my guess.

16 MEMBER KOTELCHUCK: Yes, that's my 

17 guess.

18 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: And, I think 

19 that hotel is close to the airport. Knoxville 

20 is not that big, so it should be. I can't 

21 recall.

22 MEMBER KOTELCHUCK: All right, 
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1 thanks.

2 CHAIRMAN MELIUS: Yes. And, as 

3 soon as we sort of pin down an agenda a little 

4 bit more, which should be in the next week, we 

5 can firm that up.

6 But, certainly, you know, 5:00 or 

7 6:00 should not -- you know, 5:00 shouldn't be 

8 a problem.

9 Okay. Okay, everybody, thanks 

10 everybody, and everybody have a good 

11 Thanksgiving, and we'll see you in December.

12 (Whereupon, the above-entitled 

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