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US Department of Health and Human Services

Centers for Disease Control

National Institute for Occupational Safety and 

Health

Advisory Board on Radiation and Worker Health

Sandia National Laboratories Work Group

Thursday, March 3, 2022 

The Work Group convened via video teleconference 

at 12:30 p.m. Eastern Time, Henry Anderson, Chair, 

presiding.
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Members Present: 

Henry Anderson, Chair

Josie Beach, Member

Genevieve Roessler, Member

Also Present: 

Rashaun Roberts, Designated Federal Official

Tim Adler, ORAU

Bob Barton, SC&A

Finn Black, SC&A

Ron Buchanan, SC&A

Grady Calhoun, DCAS

Joe Fitzgerald, SC&A

Joe Guido, ORAU

Pat McCloskey, ORAU

Stephen Pittman, ORAU

Michael Rafky, HHS

LaVon Rutherford, DCAS

Mutty Sharfi, ORAU

Matthew Smith, ORAU

Dan Stempfley, ORAU

Tim Taulbee, DCAS
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Contents

US Department of Health and Human Services 

Centers for Disease Control National Institute for 

Occupational Safety and Health Advisory Board on 

Radiation and Worker Health Sandia National 

Laboratories Work Group Thursday, March 3, 2022 1

Welcome and Roll Call 4

Adjourn 7
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Proceedings

(12:30 p.m.)

Welcome and Roll Call

Dr. Roberts: My chime just went off, and I know the 

court reporter's already on, so I just want to wish 

everyone a good afternoon or good morning, 

whichever it is for you, and to welcome everyone to 

the Advisory Board on Radiation and Worker Health.

This is a meeting of the Sandia Work Group. I'm 

Rashaun Roberts. I'm DFO for the Board. There's an 

agenda for today. You can find it on the NIOSH 

website, under March, 2022.

Since Board Members who have conflicts with 

regard to this can't sit on this particular Work 

Group, there should be no conflict of interest for any 

of the Work Group Members. As I go through the 

roll call, then that piece is covered for the Work 

Group Members, but other staff do need to state 

whether or not they have any relevant conflicts as I 

move through the roll call.

So without further delay, let me get to the roll call 

for the Work Group Members, starting with 

Anderson.

(Roll call.)

Dr. Roberts: All right. With that settled, let me ask 

if there are any members of the public who would 

like to register their attendance?

Hearing none, I just want to say thank you and 

welcome to everyone for being here for today's 

meeting.

There are a couple of things that we need to do 

before I give the floor over to Dr. Anderson, who's 

the Chair of the workgroup, but assuming that we're 

going to move forward with this meeting, in order to 

keep everything running smoothly and so that 
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everybody can be clearly understood, everyone 

please mute your Zoom or your phone when you're 

not speaking. 

The mute button for Zoom is in your lower left-hand 

corner, or the left-hand side of your screen. If 

you're attending via telephone, you press Star 6 to 

mute, if you don't have a mute button. If you need 

to take yourself off mute, press Star 6 again.

The agenda and the presentations, background 

documents, etc., that are relevant to today's 

meeting can be found on the NIOSH DCAS website, 

and all of these materials, for your information, 

were sent to the Board Members and to staff prior 

to the meeting.

With that, Andy, I'll go ahead and turn it over to 

you, and see where we are.

Chair Anderson: Grady, are we able to start with 

two NIOSH presentations with the overview of the 

188 SEC for Sandia National Laboratories? Do you 

have anyone can do that?

Dr. Taulbee: This is Tim. I can go through Chuck's 

slides. However, it's really going through the slides, 

and if you have detailed questions I may not be able 

to answer them from that standpoint. 

So I'm not sure if you want to go through with that, 

which I certainly can do from that standpoint, but 

just recognize that we are missing our lead for this 

site at this time. I leave it up to you all.

Member Beach: I kind of wonder if we shouldn't be 

postponing.

Chair Anderson: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

(Simultaneous speaking.)

Chair Anderson: To do the presentation and be an 

hour in, and have some questions.
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Member Beach: It seems like we would just be 

spinning our wheels and then end up having to go 

through maybe again.

Mr. Calhoun:: Yeah. I didn't want to try to cancel 

anything until I spoke to y'all in person, since it just 

happened. And it seems to me like you're right. We 

can either do it once later, or do it once now and 

once again. I know there's difficulties with 

rescheduling.

Chair Anderson: Do you have any hope that they 

might be available in an hour?

Mr. Calhoun:: It's possible. I just texted Bomber, 

and I can ask. 

Mr. Rutherford: This is Lavon Rutherford. I am here. 

Chuck is definitely not going to be available. That's 

for sure. They're running tests, he's still at the 

hospital. I just ran back from the hospital. I would 

say that I could step in for him too, but I'm, 

honestly, a little bit shaky myself.

Chair Anderson: I think we better delay it then, or 

try to reschedule, because we also have quite a few 

others on the line, and to say let's come back or 

start. Chuck is clearly not going to be available 

today.

Mr. Rutherford: He's definitely not going to be 

available today.

Chair Anderson: Then maybe we ought to go ahead. 

Any others have comments? I think we ought to 

postpone. 

Member Beach: I agree.

Member Roessler: I agree.

Chair Anderson: Sorry, Rashaun.

Dr. Roberts: Oh, no, not at all. I'm sorry to hear 

about the reason. I hope he's okay. Should we do 
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this, wait to see what happens and then I can reach 

out to the Work Group Members and try to get this 

back on the books as soon as possible. How does 

that sound?

Member Beach: That sounds reasonable.

Chair Anderson: Yeah, I think that's good.

Dr. Roberts: Okay, well, best wishes, and if there's 

anything I can do, please let me know.

Member Beach: Bomber, hopefully you'll be okay, 

too.

Mr. Rutherford: Yeah, everything's -- I can report 

back that so far everything's looking good. 

Dr. Roberts: So how should we leave this? Should I 

just wait to hear from you, so then we can get the 

dates and everything?

Mr. Rutherford: I think you can, yeah, you can wait. 

I'll shoot you an email if we kind of figure things 

out, but I'm sure we can get it scheduled right 

away. 

Dr. Roberts: Okay, great. Well, sorry, everybody. 

Andy, did you have anything else?

Chair Anderson: I was going to say, Board 

Members, do you have anything coming up? 

Hopefully nobody's going to be away for a month or 

so.

Member Beach: No, no.

Chair Anderson: I mean, with travel opening up. So 

let's just wait, Rashaun. Let us know and we'll try to 

schedule the first available time for everyone.

Adjourn

Dr. Roberts: Will do. Okay, have a great day, 

everyone. 
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(Whereupon, the above-entitled matter went off the 

record at 12:41 p.m.)