NUMBER 13-15-00242-CV

COURT OF APPEALS

THIRTEENTH DISTRICT OF TEXAS

CORPUS CHRISTI – EDINBURG

IN THE INTEREST OF J.S., J.S., AND BABY BOY P., CHILDREN

On appeal from the County Court at Law No. 5

of Nueces County, Texas.

ORDER

Before Chief Justice Valdez and Justices Rodriguez and Benavides

Order Per Curiam

This case involves the trial court’s appointment of N.R., a non-parent, as 

permanent managing conservator of appellant J.P.’s children, J.S., J.S., and Baby Boy 

P., and the trial court’s order regarding visitation rights, if any, for J.P.1 By her sole issue, 

 

1 We will refer to appellant as J.P. and her children as J.S., J.S., and Baby Boy P. See TEX. FAM.

CODE ANN. § 109.002(d) (West, Westlaw through 2015 R.S.) (“On the motion of the parties or on the court's 

own motion, the appellate court in its opinion may identify the parties by fictitious names or by their initials 

only.”); see also TEX. R. APP. P. 9.8(b) (providing that in a parental-rights termination case, “the court must, 

in its opinion, use an alias to refer to a minor, and if necessary to protect the minor's identity, to the minor's 

parent or other family member”).

We also note that the parties refer to N.R. as “grandma” and as “fictive kin.” The trial court ordered 

“Permanent Managing Conservatorship of all children to current fictive kin placement, [N.R.].”
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J.P. contends that the trial court abused its discretion in ordering that visitation with the 

children be “at the discretion of the managing conservator” and by failing to set the specific 

terms and conditions of her possession and access to the children. We abate and remand 

this matter to the trial court.

I. BACKGROUND

On April 14, 2014, appellee the Department of Family and Protective Services (the 

Department) filed a petition for conservatorship and termination of the parent-child 

relationship between J.P., the respective fathers, and the children. Ten days later, the 

trial court named the Department temporary managing conservator of the three children. 

The children were placed with N.R., and according to the ad litem for the children and 

counsel for the Department, the placement was “great” and “safe” and the children did 

not “want to go back to mom.”

The Department repeatedly advised the trial court that it was seeking to terminate 

the parental rights of J.P. and was opposed to an arrangement where N.R. would be given 

permanent managing conservatorship without termination of parental rights. The

Department expressed concern that J.P. would continue to cause problems for the 

children’s placement and requested that if the trial court did not terminate parental rights, 

that visits for J.P. be at N.R.’s discretion because it would put N.R. in “a position where 

she knows going forward that the children will always be safe because she has full legal 

authority to make those decisions.” On April 27, 2015, J.P., however, filed a motion with 

the trial court requesting standard visitation with the children.

Following a April 29, 2015 review hearing where the Department reiterated its 

position that it was seeking to terminate all parental rights to the children, the following 

exchange occurred:
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The Trial Court: Do you oppose me granting—does any party other 

than the Department oppose me granting [permanent 

managing conservatorship] to the placement [N.R.] 

today?

. . . .

J.P.’s Counsel: No, Your Honor.

Attorney ad litem: No, as long as it’s sole managing conservatorship with 

complete discretion.

. . . .

The Trial Court: Well, that’s what I’m—you’re opposed to it?

The Department: Absolutely, your Honor. I’m opposed to it, but if the 

Court does grant [permanent managing 

conservatorship], we’d ask that visitation be fully at 

placement’s discretion. Parents have to understand 

that they can’t have visits with these children unless 

they can work out something amicable with grandma, 

and if they can prove that those visits will be safe and 

the children won’t be afraid—if the children don’t want 

to visit parents, they’re not going to visit parents.

The Trial Court: And this is the thing—I say this a lot—it’s a lot easier to 

get bees with honey, and maybe that will be good for 

them because they’ll be in a situation where they’ll 

have to be nice. I mean, that’s how things get worked 

out.

After explaining that it would take the case under advisement, the trial court asked if there 

was “[a]nything else anybody has to add?” Only the Department’s counsel answered, 

“No.”

On April 30, 2015, the trial court advised the parties of its ruling, via email, which 

provided in relevant part: “Based on no objections by respondents, Permanent Managing 

Conservatorship of all children to current fictive kin placement N.R. All visitation at her 

discretion. . . . That is the Order of the court . . . .” On June 19, 2015, the trial court 

signed its “Final Order in Suit Affecting the Parent-Child Relationship.” It found “that 
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appointment of a parent or both parents as managing conservator would not be in the 

best interest of the [children] because the appointment would significantly impair the 

child’s physical health or emotional development.” At section 7.1 of the final order, the 

trial court repeated the language quoted above and ordered the appointment of N.R. as 

permanent managing conservator of the children and limited visitation to her discretion. 

II. ABATEMENT

Now, on appeal, J.P. states that “[t]he order entered by the trial court grants [her] 

visitation with the children at the discretion of the permanent managing conservator,” and 

she complains of that restriction. Yet J.P. appears to complain that the trial court did not 

appoint her possessory conservator of the children or that it limited her possession in 

such a way, without making certain findings, as to be a non-appointment. See TEX. FAM.

CODE ANN. §§ 153.191, 153.193 (West, Westlaw through 2015 R.S.). We also note that 

while the order does not specifically appoint J.P. a possessory conservator, the limited 

discretionary visitation language appears to be a restriction on such possession or 

access.

Accordingly, we ABATE the appeal and REMAND the cause to the trial court for 

clarification.2 Upon remand, the trial court shall address whether it intended its June 19 

final order to appoint J.P. possessory conservator of the children and whether it intended 

the referenced restriction to apply to such possession. See Hopkins v. Hopkins, 853 

S.W.2d 134, 137–38 (Tex. App.—Corpus Christi 1993, no pet.); see also In re Marriage 

of Collier, 419 S.W.3d 390, (Tex. App.—Amarillo 2011, no pet.); In re Walters, 39 S.W.3d 

280, 286–87 (Tex. App.—Texarkana 2001, no pet.). The trial court shall cause its findings

 

2 Because we have abated the appeal, the original submission date of December 14, 2015 has 

been withdrawn.
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and recommendations regarding J.P.’s possessory conservatorship and any restrictions 

on that conservatorship to be included in a supplemental clerk’s record. Furthermore, the 

trial court shall cause a supplemental reporter’s record of any proceedings to be prepared. 

The supplemental clerk’s record and supplemental reporter’s record, if any, shall be filed 

with the Clerk of this Court on or before the expiration of thirty days from the date of this 

order. The appeal will be reinstated upon receipt of the foregoing materials and upon 

further order of this Court.

PER CURIAM

Delivered and filed the

15th day of December, 2015.