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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 

NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA 

SAN FRANCISCO DIVISION 

---oOo--- 

WAYMO LLC, 

Plaintiff, 

vs. No. 3:17-cv-00939-WHA 

UBER TECHNOLOGIES, INC.; 

OTTOMOTTO LLC; OTTO TRUCKING, 

INC., 

Defendants. 

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WAYMO & UBER CONFIDENTIAL ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY 

VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF CAMERON POETZSCHER 

SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA 

MONDAY, JUNE 19, 2017 

BY: ANDREA M. IGNACIO, 

CSR, RPR, CRR, CCRR, CLR 

CSR LICENSE NO. 9830 

JOB NO. 2642012 

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 

NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA 

SAN FRANCISCO DIVISION 

---oOo--- 

WAYMO LLC, 

Plaintiff, 

vs. No. 3:17-cv-00939-WHA 

UBER TECHNOLOGIES, INC.; 

OTTOMOTTO LLC; OTTO TRUCKING, 

INC., 

Defendants. 

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Videotaped Deposition of Cameron Poetzscher, 

taken on behalf of the Plaintiffs, on June 19, 

2017, at Quinn, Emanuel, Urquhart & Sullivan, LLP, 

50 California Street, 22nd Floor, San Francisco, 

California 94111, beginning 8:59 a.m., and 

commencing at 5:17 p.m., Pursuant to Notice, and 

before me, ANDREA M. IGNACIO, CSR, RPR, CRR, 

CLR ~ License No. 9830. 

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A P P E A R A N C E S : 

FOR THE PLAINTIFFS: 

QUINN EMANUEL URQUHART & SULLIVAN LLP 

By : ANDREA ROBERTS, Esq. 

JORDAN R . JAFFE , Esq. 

5 0 California Street, Suite 2 2 0 0 

San Francisco, California 9 4 1 1 1 

Phone: 4 1 5 . 8 7 5 . 6 6 0 0 

andrearobert s @ quinnemanuel . com 

THE DEFENDANTS UBER TECHNOLOGIES INC . : 

MORRI SON & FOERSTER LLP 

By : MICHAEL A . JACOBS , Esq. 

4 2 5 Market Street 

San Francisco, California 9 4 1 0 5 

Phone: 4 1 5 . 2 6 8 . 7 4 5 5 

mj acobs @mofo . com 

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A P P E A R A N C E S: (Cont.) 

THE DEFENDANTS OTTO TRUCKING, INC.: 

GOODWIN & PROCTER LLP 

By: HAYES HYDE, Esq. 

Three Embarcadero Center, 28th Floor 

San Francisco, California 941111 

Phone: 415.733.6000 

hhyde@goodwinlaw.com 

ALSO PRESENT: Cyril Suszckiewicz, Videographer 

Justin Suhr, Uber 

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sense to us, were too easy, weren't aligned with our 15:44 

interests. 15:44 

You know, for any number of reasons; right? 15:44 

If we didn't like the terms or conditions, we wouldn't 15:44 

have signed, same as any other deal. 15:44 

Q The term sheet was signed on February 22nd, 15:44 

2016, and the acquisition agreement was signed on 15:45 

April 11th, 2016. 15:45 

When did Uber decide that it was going to go 15:45 

ahead with the transaction? 15:45 

A I mean, on or about April 11th we got final 15:45 

board approval. Obviously, we didn't do all this work 15:45 

and make a last-minute, you know, flippant decision. 15:45 

But clearly, we made a final decision on or about 15:45 

April 11th. We got board approval, and we signed the 15:45 

transaction. 15:45 

Q How long did it take to get board approval? 15:45 

A I mean, we had a board meeting. We had a 15:45 

discussion at the -- with the board. I can't recall 15:45 

how long it was. It was a serious discussion. And 15:45 

then after that, we signed. I don't remember the 15:45 

exact day of the board meeting, whether it's the same 15:45 

day or previously. 15:45 

Q Did you attend that board meeting? 15:45 

A Yes. 15:45 

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