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·1· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · VOLUME 1

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·2· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · EXHIBITS: 183-192

·3· · · · · · · UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

· · · · · ·FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA

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· · · · ·CONTAINS CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS INFORMATION

·5· · · · · · ·SUBJECT TO A PROTECTIVE ORDER

· · · · · · · · · · ·ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY

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·7· ·CHRISTINA GRACE and KEN

· · ·POTTER, Individually and

·8· ·On Behalf of All Others

· · ·Similarly Situated

·9· · · · · · · ·Plaintiffs· · · · · · ·Case No.

· · ·vs.· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 5:17-cv-00551-LHK-NC

10· ·APPLE INC.

· · · · · · · · ·Defendant

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· · ·VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF JUSTINE S. HASTINGS, Ph.D.

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· · · · · · Courtyard Marriott Providence Downtown

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· · · · · · · · · ·Providence, Rhode Island

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23· ·---Reporter:· Joan M. Cassidy, CSR, RPR, RMR, CRR---

· · · · · · · · · · HG Litigation Services

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· · · · · · · · · · ·Dallas, Texas 75207

25· · · · Telephone 888-656-3376· Fax 888-656-3275

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·1· ·APPEARANCES:

·2· ·Present for Plaintiff:

· · · · ·Friedman Oster & Tejtel

·3· · · ·David F.E. Tejtel, Esq.

· · · · ·240 East 79th Street, Suite A

·4· · · ·New York, New York 10075

· · · · ·646-661-5881

·5· · · ·dtejtel@fotpllc.com

· · · · · · ·-and-

·6· · · ·Caldwell Cassady & Curry, P.C.

· · · · ·Daniel R. Pearson, Esq.

·7· · · ·2101 Cedar Springs Road, Suite 1000

· · · · ·Dallas, Texas 75201

·8· · · ·214-888-4848· Fax: 214-888-4849

· · · · ·dpearson@caldwellcc.com

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10· ·Present for Defendant:

· · · · ·Durie Tangri LLP

11· · · ·Josh H. Lerner, Esq.

· · · · ·Laura E. Miller, Esq.

12· · · ·217 Leidesdorff Street

· · · · ·San Francisco, California 94111

13· · · ·415-362-6666· Fax: 415-236-6300

· · · · ·jlerner@durietangri.com

14· · · ·lmiller@durietangri.com

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· · ·ALSO PRESENT:· Gabe Zeldin, Esq. (via telephone)

16· · · · · · · · · Dr. Malhotra (via telephone)

· · · · · · · · · · Steven Baty, Videographer

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·1· · · · · · · · · · · ·I N D E X

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·3· · · · · · · · · · ·EXAMINATIONS

·4· ·Justine S. Hastings, Ph.D.

·5· · · · · BY MR. LERNER· · · · · · · · · · ·7

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·9· ·Exhibit 183, Witness's merits report· · ·87

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11· ·Exhibit 184, Apple iPhone Buyer Survey· ·95

12· ·for third quarter of 2012, APL-GRACE_

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15· ·Exhibit 185, Article by C. Rampell· · · ·103

16· ·entitled "Cracking the Apple Trap,"

17· ·New York Times, October 29, 2013

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19· ·Exhibit 186, Article by S. Costello· · · 108

20· ·entitled "Should You Upgrade Your

21· ·iPhone 4 to iOS7?" Lifewire, updated

22· ·August 9, 2016

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24· ·Exhibit 187, Apple discussion re "Does· ·111

25· ·iOS 7 Slow Down an iPhone 4?"

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·1· ·Exhibit 188, Table entitled "Trade-In· · 233

·2· ·Promotions"

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·4· ·Exhibit 189, Email with error log from· ·235

·5· ·T. Cheng to innsbruck-reports@group.

·6· ·apple.com, APL-GRACE_5636-37

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·8· ·Exhibit 190, Email from T. Akinwande· · ·235

·9· ·to innsbruck-reports@group.apple.com

10· ·dated 6/21/13 re Innsbruck11A403

11· ·performance results, APL-GRACE_

12· ·00002142-45

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14· ·Exhibit 191, Email from F. Li to· · · · ·236

15· ·innsbruck-reports@group.apple.com

16· ·dated 7/27/13 re Innsbruck11A403

17· ·performance results, APL-GRACE_

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20· ·Exhibit 192, Email from F. Li to· · · · ·237

21· ·innsbruck-reports@group.apple.com

22· ·dated 6/14/13 re Innsbruck11A403

23· ·performance results, APL-GRACE_

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·1· ·question more simply.· When do you think the common

·2· ·impact took place?

·3· · · ·A.· So the impact could have started at the

·4· ·point when the break occurred and can be measured in

·5· ·data on resale phone values that occur after the

·6· ·break occurred.

·7· · · ·Q.· And forgive me for the commonsense

·8· ·questions, but I assume the common impact could not

·9· ·have started before April 16, 2014?

10· · · ·A.· Yes, that's correct.

11· · · ·Q.· Okay.· And so your testimony is that the

12· ·common impact starts on April 16, 2014.· When does

13· ·it end?

14· · · ·A.· Well, the impact is the diminished value of

15· ·the phone that they own, and that diminished value,

16· ·using standard economic theory, is a diminished

17· ·value that is now a characteristic of the phone, and

18· ·at some point that is fully realized in the market

19· ·for used phones, so that diminished value could be

20· ·estimated using prices for used phones for periods

21· ·after the break.

22· · · ·Q.· And when is the diminished value -- was the

23· ·diminished value fully realized here?

24· · · · · · · ·MR. TEJTEL:· Object to form.

25· · · ·A.· What do you mean by "fully realized"?

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·1· ·assignment I decided to calculate on my own some

·2· ·other thing that I believe, based on your question,

·3· ·has to do with people who don't own phones or class

·4· ·members before they owned a phone.· Is that what

·5· ·you're asking me?

·6· · · ·Q.· Correct.· And I just want to make sure

·7· ·we're on the same page about this so I get what your

·8· ·opinions are on.· Are you offering an opinion on

·9· ·what class members would have paid for their iPhone

10· ·4 or 4S's had they known that 4 and 4S's with iOS 6

11· ·or earlier operating systems could stop working on

12· ·April 16, 2014?

13· · · ·A.· So are you asking, am I offering an opinion

14· ·on benefit-of-the-bargain damages --

15· · · ·Q.· Yes.

16· · · ·A.· -- which might be what people would refer

17· ·to that as?

18· · · ·Q.· That's a fair question.

19· · · ·A.· I am offering an opinion on aggregate

20· ·class-wide damages measured by diminution in value.

21· ·I am not offering an opinion on benefit-of-the22· ·bargain damages.

23· · · ·Q.· Okay, thank you.· And again, I apologize

24· ·for the commonsense stuff, but I just want to make

25· ·sure I've got this figured out.· So you're not, for

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·1· ·example, trying to quantify overpayment at the time

·2· ·of purchase?

·3· · · · · · · ·MR. TEJTEL:· Object to form.

·4· · · ·A.· I am not offering an opinion on benefit-of-

·5· ·the-bargain damages, which is what I understood your

·6· ·question to be.· I am offering an opinion in this

·7· ·case on aggregate class-wide damages measured by

·8· ·diminution in value of the proposed class members'

·9· ·iPhone 4 and 4S devices caused by the break.

10· · · ·Q.· Okay.· A couple questions just about who's

11· ·included in what you measured.· If there's someone

12· ·who had an iPhone 4 running on iOS 6 on April 16,

13· ·2014, that person would be a member of the class,

14· ·right?

15· · · · · · · ·MR. TEJTEL:· Object to form.

16· · · ·A.· I don't know, because, you know, there's an

17· ·order that was issued, so I would just stick to --

18· ·when I wrote this report, I understand that the

19· ·proposed class in this case was defined as all

20· ·owners of Apple iPhone 4 or Apple iPhone 4S devices

21· ·in the United States who on April 16, 2014, had iOS

22· ·6 or earlier operating systems on their iPhone 4 or

23· ·iPhone 4S devices.· That is my understanding of the

24· ·proposed class at the time of submitting this

25· ·report.

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·1· · · · · · · CERTIFICATE OF COURT REPORTER

·2· · · · · · · ·I, Joan M. Cassidy, Registered

·3· ·Professional Reporter and Certified Realtime

·4· ·Reporter, do certify that the deposition of Justine

·5· ·S. Hastings, Ph.D., in the matter of C. Grace & K.

·6· ·Potter, Individually & On Behalf of All Others

·7· ·Similarly Situated v. Apple Inc., on September 20,

·8· ·2018, was stenographically recorded by me; that the

·9· ·transcript produced by me is a true and accurate

10· ·record of the proceedings to the best of my ability;

11· ·that I am neither counsel for, related to, nor

12· ·employed by any of the parties to the above action;

13· ·and further that I am not a relative or employee of

14· ·any attorney or counsel employed by the parties

15· ·thereto, nor financially or otherwise interested in

16· ·the outcome of the action.

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· · · · · · · · · · ·Commissioner in the State of Rhode

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· · · · · · · · · · ·Commission expires May 31, 2022

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