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·7· ·CHRISTINA GRACE and KEN

· · ·POTTER, Individually and

·8· ·On Behalf of All Others

· · ·Similarly Situated

·9· · · · · · · ·Plaintiffs· · · · · · ·Case No.

· · ·vs.· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 5:17-cv-00551-LHK-NC

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· · ·VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF JUSTINE S. HASTINGS, Ph.D.

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·1· ·damages that need to be restored, but it has a

·2· ·specific meaning outside of that as well, and I just

·3· ·would have to go back and look.

·4· · · ·Q.· Did you attempt to calculate the difference

·5· ·in what a class member would have paid if when they

·6· ·purchased the iPhone 4 or 4S they had known that

·7· ·FaceTime might not work on April 16, 2014, at the

·8· ·time of purchase?

·9· · · · · · · ·MR. TEJTEL:· Object to form.

10· · · ·Q.· Sorry, scratch that.· Let me clean that up.

11· ·Did you attempt to calculate the price that class

12· ·members would have paid if they had known at the

13· ·time of purchase that FaceTime could stop working on

14· ·iOS 6 or earlier versions on April 16, 2014?

15· · · · · · · ·MR. TEJTEL:· Object to form.

16· · · ·A.· So my damages model, my assignment in this

17· ·case, is to calculate aggregate class-wide damages

18· ·measured by the diminution in value of an asset that

19· ·was owned by class members, namely, the iPhone 4 and

20· ·4S devices that they owned.· So I am calculating

21· ·aggregate class-wide damages measured by the

22· ·diminution in value of these assets caused by the

23· ·break.· So this is assets that they owned,

24· ·diminution in value of an asset that you own.

25· · · · · · · ·You're asking me if outside of my

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·1· ·assignment I decided to calculate on my own some

·2· ·other thing that I believe, based on your question,

·3· ·has to do with people who don't own phones or class

·4· ·members before they owned a phone.· Is that what

·5· ·you're asking me?

·6· · · ·Q.· Correct.· And I just want to make sure

·7· ·we're on the same page about this so I get what your

·8· ·opinions are on.· Are you offering an opinion on

·9· ·what class members would have paid for their iPhone

10· ·4 or 4S's had they known that 4 and 4S's with iOS 6

11· ·or earlier operating systems could stop working on

12· ·April 16, 2014?

13· · · ·A.· So are you asking, am I offering an opinion

14· ·on benefit-of-the-bargain damages --

15· · · ·Q.· Yes.

16· · · ·A.· -- which might be what people would refer

17· ·to that as?

18· · · ·Q.· That's a fair question.

19· · · ·A.· I am offering an opinion on aggregate

20· ·class-wide damages measured by diminution in value.

21· ·I am not offering an opinion on benefit-of-the22· ·bargain damages.

23· · · ·Q.· Okay, thank you.· And again, I apologize

24· ·for the commonsense stuff, but I just want to make

25· ·sure I've got this figured out.· So you're not, for

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·1· ·example, trying to quantify overpayment at the time

·2· ·of purchase?

·3· · · · · · · ·MR. TEJTEL:· Object to form.

·4· · · ·A.· I am not offering an opinion on benefit-of-

·5· ·the-bargain damages, which is what I understood your

·6· ·question to be.· I am offering an opinion in this

·7· ·case on aggregate class-wide damages measured by

·8· ·diminution in value of the proposed class members'

·9· ·iPhone 4 and 4S devices caused by the break.

10· · · ·Q.· Okay.· A couple questions just about who's

11· ·included in what you measured.· If there's someone

12· ·who had an iPhone 4 running on iOS 6 on April 16,

13· ·2014, that person would be a member of the class,

14· ·right?

15· · · · · · · ·MR. TEJTEL:· Object to form.

16· · · ·A.· I don't know, because, you know, there's an

17· ·order that was issued, so I would just stick to --

18· ·when I wrote this report, I understand that the

19· ·proposed class in this case was defined as all

20· ·owners of Apple iPhone 4 or Apple iPhone 4S devices

21· ·in the United States who on April 16, 2014, had iOS

22· ·6 or earlier operating systems on their iPhone 4 or

23· ·iPhone 4S devices.· That is my understanding of the

24· ·proposed class at the time of submitting this

25· ·report.

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·1· · · · · · · CERTIFICATE OF COURT REPORTER

·2· · · · · · · ·I, Joan M. Cassidy, Registered

·3· ·Professional Reporter and Certified Realtime

·4· ·Reporter, do certify that the deposition of Justine

·5· ·S. Hastings, Ph.D., in the matter of C. Grace & K.

·6· ·Potter, Individually & On Behalf of All Others

·7· ·Similarly Situated v. Apple Inc., on September 20,

·8· ·2018, was stenographically recorded by me; that the

·9· ·transcript produced by me is a true and accurate

10· ·record of the proceedings to the best of my ability;

11· ·that I am neither counsel for, related to, nor

12· ·employed by any of the parties to the above action;

13· ·and further that I am not a relative or employee of

14· ·any attorney or counsel employed by the parties

15· ·thereto, nor financially or otherwise interested in

16· ·the outcome of the action.

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