Exhibit 21 

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·1· · · · · · · RICHARD L. DONALDSON, ESQUIRE

·2· · · · · · · UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

·3· · · · · · ·NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA

·4· · · · · · · · · · SAN JOSE DIVISION

·5

· · ________________________________

·6

· · FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION

·7

· · · · · · · · · Plaintiff,

·8· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·Case No.

· · · · · V.· · · · · · · · · · · · ·5:17-cv-00220-LHK-NMC

·9

· · QUALCOMM INCORPORATED, a

10· Delaware corporation,

11· · · · · · · · Defendant.

12· ________________________________

13

14· · · · · · · · VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF

15· · · · · · ·RICHARD L. DONALDSON, ESQUIRE

16· · · · · · · · · · WASHINGTON, D.C.

17· · · · · · · ·WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 15, 2018

18· · · · · · · · · · · · 9:00 A.M.

19

20· · · ·VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF RICHARD L. DONALDSON,

21· ESQUIRE, a witness herein, taken on behalf of the

22· Defendant, at the Federal Trade Commission, Bureau of

23· Competition, 400 7th Street, Southwest, Washington,

24· D.C.

25· REPORTED BY:· MICHELE E. EDDY, RPR, CRR, CRI

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·1· · · · · · · RICHARD L. DONALDSON, ESQUIRE

·2· makers?· Are you aware of any evidence indicating

·3· that that has ever happened in the cellular

·4· wireless space?

·5· · · · · · MS. GILLEN:· Object to the form.

·6· · · ·A· · Nothing comes to mind right now. I

·7· can't say one way or the other for sure.· I just

·8· don't recall anything.

·9· · · ·Q· · So let's -- let's turn to the next part

10· of your opinion, which was expressed in paragraph

11· 20.· This regards Qualcomm's position that

12· chip-level licensing would be contrary to industry

13· practice.· So what is your opinion in this case

14· regarding Qualcomm's position on chip-level

15· licensing and industry practice?· Let me ask that

16· a different way.

17· · · · · · What is your opinion, sir, regarding the

18· industry practice of chip-level licensing versus

19· device-level licensing?

20· · · ·A· · I think the practice to date is -- has

21· been people take licenses at the device level.

22· That's the way it kind of grew up when you started

23· off with the early phones that were just cell

24· phones.

25· · · ·Q· · So you don't disagree with Qualcomm's

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·1· · · · · · · RICHARD L. DONALDSON, ESQUIRE

·2· · · · · · CERTIFICATE OF SHORTHAND REPORTER

·3

·4· · · · · · I, Michele E. Eddy, Registered Professional

·5· Reporter and Certified Realtime Reporter, the court

·6· reporter before whom the foregoing deposition was

·7· taken, do hereby certify that the foregoing transcript

·8· is a true and correct record of the testimony given;

·9· that said testimony was taken by me stenographically

10· and thereafter reduced to typewriting under my

11· supervision; and that I am neither counsel for,

12· related to, nor employed by any of the parties to this

13· case and have no interest, financial or otherwise, in

14· its outcome.

15

16· · · · · · IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my

17· hand and affixed my notarial seal this 16th day of

18· August, 2018.

19· My commission expires July 14, 2022

20

21

22· _____________________________

23· MICHELE E. EDDY

· · NOTARY PUBLIC IN AND FOR

24· THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

25

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