From: Bob Smith [mailto:bsmith@federalpacific.com]

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:23 PM

To: 'Rosenstock, Steven'

Cc: ahofmann@publicpower.org; Brian Coffey; br ian.kaja@ge.com; bruce.r.hirsch@bge.com;

chuck.simmons@pgnmail.com; john.cym balsky@ee.doe.gov; Michael Rivest;

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Richard'; 'Wes Patterson'; adelaski@standardsasap.org

Subject: RE: DOE Negotiating Committee Meeting

Steve:

Pictures would be very helpful. I’ve included some.

What I had envisioned was a sidewalk vault, next to the front/side door of our meeting building, whose

grating could be opened. Then with a strong light shinned from sidewalk level into the vault a

knowledgeable PEPCO network engineer would explain all of the components in the vault & their

respective functions

‐‐‐ all directed toward keeping the power on at all times, so people aren’t stranded

in elevators, computers aren’t crashed, and surgeons aren’t interrupted.

The vault you would be viewing could be the one I’ve encircled as part of PEPCO’s network system. You

would get a great feel for the size of the vault and all of the equipment associated with keeping your

power on at all times.

This expedition is not without some risk: Wes may get all choked up if the transformer isn’t made by

ABB.

Regards,

Bob Smith, PE

Product Manager

Federal Pacific

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Bristol, VA 24201

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Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:47 PM

To: Timothy Ballo; Parker Richard; Wes Patterson

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Subject: RE: DOE Negotiating Committee Meeting



### Also, as another option, if people have photos of network installations that could be

shown to the group....

Like I said, I would be happy to contact PEPCO if people would like.

Steve Rosenstock

Manager, Energy Solutions

Edison Electric Institute

srosenstock@eei.org

202-508-5465

From: Timothy Ballo [mailto:tballo@earthjustice.org]

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:37 PM

To: 'Parker Richard'; 'Wes Patterson'

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Subject: RE: DOE Negotiating Committee Meeting



### Richard, Wes, and others,

I agree with Richard and wouldn’t want to take up the whole comm ittee’s time with this, but if

this field trip is something that can be done dur ing lunch, or maybe before the meeting starts, it

might be useful, particularly as we can also use that time to discuss th e definitional criteria.

There certainly is a lot that I don’t know about these units, and if the manufacturers believe that

this would be a good opportunity to clear up so me misconceptions, I’m happy to wake up early

for this.

-Tim

From: Parker Richard [mailto:richardparkerdc@gmail.com]

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:08 PM

### To: Wes Patterson

Cc: Rosenstock, Steven; ahofmann@publicpower.org ; brian.coffey@navigant.com ; brian.kaja@ge.com ; bruce.r.hirsch@bge.com ; Bob Smith;

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Subject: Re: DOE Negotiating Committee Meeting

I would be interested in the Advocates take on this. Though i am naturally curious, my

gut instinct is that field trip idea is worth pursuing iff physically s eeing the unit will help

us write the specification. otherwise our incr edibly scarce time might be better spent on

writing the spec and the sub-standard.

Richard

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On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Wes Patterson < wes.patterson@us.abb.com > wrote:

Thanks Steve

Richard - is this something worth pursing?

Best regards

Wes

"Rosenstock, Steven"

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Subject RE: DOE Negotiating Committee Meeting

### PEPCO is the electric distri bution company that serves Washington DC. I can send an email or make a call to see if they would be able to arrange a visit (however, there are

probably strict security and safety protoc ols that would have to be followed).

Steve Rosenstock

Manager, Energy Solutions

Edison Electric Institute

srosenstock@eei.org

202-508-5465

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From: Wes Patterson [mailto:wes.patterson@us.abb.com]

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:40 AM

To: Bob Smith

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Subject: RE: DOE Negotiating Committee Meeting

Hi Bob

Your suggestion that we might try to have the committee look a network feeding one of

our meeting locations is quite good.

I have copied Richard and some others to see if they have an interest.

================== ========== Suggestion from Bob Smith:

"One stupid idea: I suppose that at least one of our next meetings will be in a building

served by a network transforme r. More than likely I could get someone from the local

utility to open a sidewalk vault and go over th e components in the vault needed to supply

uninterruptible power to our building."

================== ==========

Best regards

Wes