From: Bob Smith [mailto:bsmith@federalpacific.com] 

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:23 PM 

To: 'Rosenstock, Steven' 

Cc: ahofmann@publicpower.org; Brian Coffey; brian.kaja@ge.com; bruce.r.hirsch@bge.com; 

chuck.simmons@pgnmail.com; john.cymbalsky@ee.doe.gov; Michael Rivest; 

rgreeson@federalpacific.com; rick.anderson@faypwc.com; 'Nadel, Steve'; 'Timothy Ballo'; 'Parker 

Richard'; 'Wes Patterson'; adelaski@standardsasap.org 

Subject: RE: DOE Negotiating Committee Meeting 

Steve:

Pictures would be very helpful.  I’ve included some.

What I had envisioned was a sidewalk vault, next to the front/side door of our meeting building, whose

grating could be opened.  Then with a strong light shinned from sidewalk level into the vault  a

knowledgeable PEPCO network engineer would explain all of the components in the vault & their

respective functions‐‐‐all directed toward keeping the power on at all times, so people aren’t stranded

in elevators, computers aren’t crashed, and surgeons aren’t interrupted.   

The vault you would be viewing could be the one I’ve encircled as part of PEPCO’s network system.  You

would get a great feel for the size of the vault and all of the equipment associated with keeping your

power on at all times.

This expedition is not without some risk:  Wes may get all choked up if the transformer isn’t made by

ABB.

Regards,

Bob Smith, PE 

Product Manager 

Federal Pacific

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From: Rosenstock, Steven [mailto:SRosenstock@eei.org] 

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:47 PM 

To: Timothy Ballo; Parker Richard; Wes Patterson 

Cc: ahofmann@publicpower.org; brian.coffey@navigant.com; brian.kaja@ge.com; 

bruce.r.hirsch@bge.com; Bob Smith; chuck.simmons@pgnmail.com; john.cymbalsky@ee.doe.gov; 

mrivest@navigant.com; rgreeson@federalpacific.com; rick.anderson@faypwc.com; Nadel, Steve 

Subject: RE: DOE Negotiating Committee Meeting 

Also, as another option, if people have photos of network installations that could be 

shown to the group.... 

Like I said, I would be happy to contact PEPCO if people would like. 

Steve Rosenstock 

Manager, Energy Solutions 

Edison Electric Institute 

srosenstock@eei.org

202-508-5465 

From: Timothy Ballo [mailto:tballo@earthjustice.org] 

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:37 PM 

To: 'Parker Richard'; 'Wes Patterson' 

Cc: Rosenstock, Steven; 'ahofmann@publicpower.org'; 'brian.coffey@navigant.com'; 

'brian.kaja@ge.com'; 'bruce.r.hirsch@bge.com'; 'Bob Smith'; 'chuck.simmons@pgnmail.com'; 

'john.cymbalsky@ee.doe.gov'; 'mrivest@navigant.com'; 'rgreeson@federalpacific.com'; 

'rick.anderson@faypwc.com'; Nadel, Steve 

Subject: RE: DOE Negotiating Committee Meeting 

Richard, Wes, and others, 

I agree with Richard and wouldn’t want to take up the whole committee’s time with this, but if 

this field trip is something that can be done during lunch, or maybe before the meeting starts, it 

might be useful, particularly as we can also use that time to discuss the definitional criteria. 

There certainly is a lot that I don’t know about these units, and if the manufacturers believe that 

this would be a good opportunity to clear up some misconceptions, I’m happy to wake up early 

for this. 

-Tim 

From: Parker Richard [mailto:richardparkerdc@gmail.com] 

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:08 PM 
To: Wes Patterson 

Cc: Rosenstock, Steven; ahofmann@publicpower.org; brian.coffey@navigant.com; 

brian.kaja@ge.com; bruce.r.hirsch@bge.com; Bob Smith; 

chuck.simmons@pgnmail.com; john.cymbalsky@ee.doe.gov; mrivest@navigant.com; 

rgreeson@federalpacific.com; rick.anderson@faypwc.com; Nadel, Steve; Timothy Ballo 

Subject: Re: DOE Negotiating Committee Meeting 

I would be interested in the Advocates take on this. Though i am naturally curious, my 

gut instinct is that field trip idea is worth pursuing iff physically seeing the unit will help 

us write the specification. otherwise our incredibly scarce time might be better spent on 

writing the spec and the sub-standard. 

Richard 

 

Sent from my iPhone 

On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Wes Patterson <wes.patterson@us.abb.com> wrote: 

Thanks Steve 

Richard - is this something worth pursing? 

Best regards 

Wes 

"Rosenstock, Steven" 

<SRosenstock@eei.org> 

11/21/2011 09:59 AM 

To Wes 

Patterson/SouthBoston/USTRA/ABB@ABB, 

"Bob Smith" <bsmith@federalpacific.com> 

cc <rgreeson@federalpacific.com>, 

<ahofmann@publicpower.org>, 

<brian.coffey@navigant.com>, 

<brian.kaja@ge.com>, 

<bruce.r.hirsch@bge.com>, 

<chuck.simmons@pgnmail.com>, 

<richardparkerdc@gmail.com>, 

<rick.anderson@faypwc.com>, "Nadel, Steve" 

<snadel@aceee.org>, 

<tballo@earthjustice.org>, 

<john.cymbalsky@ee.doe.gov>, 

<mrivest@navigant.com> 

Subject RE: DOE Negotiating Committee Meeting 
PEPCO is the electric distribution company that serves Washington DC. I can send an email or make a call to see if they would be able to arrange a visit (however, there are 

probably strict security and safety protocols that would have to be followed). 

 

Steve Rosenstock 

Manager, Energy Solutions 

Edison Electric Institute 

srosenstock@eei.org 

202-508-5465 

 

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From: Wes Patterson [mailto:wes.patterson@us.abb.com]

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:40 AM

To: Bob Smith

Cc: rgreeson@federalpacific.com; ahofmann@publicpower.org; 

brian.coffey@navigant.com; brian.kaja@ge.com; bruce.r.hirsch@bge.com; 

chuck.simmons@pgnmail.com; richardparkerdc@gmail.com; 

rick.anderson@faypwc.com; Nadel, Steve; Rosenstock, Steven; tballo@earthjustice.org; 

john.cymbalsky@ee.doe.gov; mrivest@navigant.com

Subject: RE: DOE Negotiating Committee Meeting 

 

Hi Bob 

Your suggestion that we might try to have the committee look a network feeding one of 

our meeting locations is quite good. 

I have copied Richard and some others to see if they have an interest. 

============================ 

Suggestion from Bob Smith: 

"One stupid idea: I suppose that at least one of our next meetings will be in a building 

served by a network transformer. More than likely I could get someone from the local 

utility to open a sidewalk vault and go over the components in the vault needed to supply 

uninterruptible power to our building." 

============================ 

Best regards 

Wes