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August 12, 2014 

Docket Management Facility 

U.S. Department of Transportation 

1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE 

West Building Ground Floor 

Room W12-140 

Washington, DC 20590 

Attention: Federal Aviation Administration 

Director, Flight Standards Service, AFS-1 

The Boeing Company 

P.O. Box 3707 

Seattle, WA 98124-2207 

Subject: Petition for Renewal of Exemption 8827C from 14 CFR Section 

91.529(b ), Flight Engineer Requirements 

References: (a) Exemption No. 2718, Regulatory Docket No. 18897, Partial Grant of 

Exemption from 14 CFR Section 91.211(b), dated April16, 1979. 

(b) Exemption No. 2718A, Regulatory Docket No. FAA-2004-19374, 

dated October 21,2004. 

(c) Exemption No. 8227C, Regulatory Docket No. FAA-2004-19374, 

dated December 5, 2012. 

The Boeing Company was granted, by Reference (a), an exemption from the 

requirements of the noted regulation to allow "flight engineers employed by the 

Boeing Commercial Airplane Company to serve as flight engineers on B-707, B-727, 

B-747 and B-767 aircraft if they have logged only 20 hours in lieu of the required 50 

hours of flight time as flight engineers on the particular type aircraft within the 

preceding 6 calendar months provided the combined flight time in all of those aircraft 

is at least 100 hours in the preceding 6 calendar months." 

In July 2004, the Boeing Company requested an amendment to the Reference (a) 

exemption to: (1) Increase the six (6) calendar month currency period for flight hours 

to 12 months, (2) Consider flight simulator time as equivalent to airplane flight time 

in fulfilling the required flight time requirements, and (3) Withdraw the request for 

exemption for Boeing Model 727 and 767 aircraft. The Reference (b) exemption was 

granted in response to that request. 
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Enclosed Reference (c) is the most recent renewal of exemption from the Subject 

regulatory requirement that "permits flight engineers, employed by Boeing, to serve 

as flight engineers on B-707 and B-7 4 7 aircraft if they have logged a minimum of 20 

hours in lieu of the required 50 hours of flight time as flight engineers on the 

particular type aircraft within the preceding 12 months, provided the combined flight 

time in any B-707 or B-747, or Level B, CorD simulator that represents any B-707 

or B-747 aircraft, is at least 100 hours in the preceding 12 calendar months." The 

current Reference (c) exemption will expire on January 31, 2015. 

The rationale and need for this exemption have not changed from the original 

application. Boeing therefore requests a two-year renewal of the Reference (b) 

exemption. 

Please contact Colin S. Fender at (206) 544-1974 with any questions or comments 

related to this matter. 

Sincerely, 

Caitlin M. Randles 

Supervisor, Flight Test Engineering 

FAA Coordination 

M/C 14-KF 

Tel (206) 304-0075 

Fax (206) 544-9875 

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Admlmttotlon 

December 5. 2012 

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"'e:ntlc. WA ''8124-2207 

Dear Mr. Fender 

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I hi<t lener 1s 10 mfonn ~uut th.ll '"''e h:.wc g.rnn1ed }OUr pctit110n to .:xcend L\emfl(ttln ~o. 8~27 . 

BS !UllCDtkd. lt e-xplains the rustS for OUT. decision and dcscn bes II!! .;[fct.1. 

Tht lliasls fo:r Our lletlsiun 

B) letter dated ~ep1ember 7, 20 l2, rou petitioned the hedernl ,\\!:at JOn Admi tuMration (I A-\) 

on behalf n~e Boem~ Company (8i,1etng) iot· .an e!\.tem;ion ol b.cmpllon i\o. 8827. i.l3 

an~nd~·d. Tha1 ~xemt)taon JhJtn § 91.529{b) o-t ·1 it'le 14, Cl)t.l.e of hderal Rcgul.ations pt..'flmls 

tlighl eng:iini.."CrS. cm.ployed b~ Boeing. •o sene n~ tllgh• cnwn~rs on R-707 and B-747 Utremlt 

if the~· ht1\'C lo!!,tt."f:d u mi.nirmtm of20 hours in lieu of lhe reqwred 54) lmurl'l ol 01g_ht tu'nl.!' u_., 

f1 i ght e-ngiruxr1J on the ~utkulnr t}'p: a.i rcmO '"' ••hi n th~ 111'fCe:dmg 12 munth"l, J"rLl\ iJc:J the 

cornbin.;.-d nl~hl tinl(' in fillY t.\-707 or fJ, 747 turcrnll. or Lc-,cl U, C.('!{ IJ 'lim~l tor chat 

rcp,escrus tn1)· ll· 707 or ll· 747 , ircrnH. is r.u ~~~~• i 00 hours in th f!1'CC4."1.iing 12 calcnd.lr 

nHM'Iths. 

In youf pottitlflf1. >·ou indica1e tha1thcre haq;: been no change in the cnnditi"n nnd ren100ns. 

relative lf,. fHEhlk m1eres1 tmd -;nfet) tllal \\r:n: 1he ba$i5 for granting (he origmal ex~mptiorr. 

A I~S-1 J-03 5-L. 
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The Ft\A htiS dcti:t'rnincd 1hat good wusc C\L~L5 for nol p4.1blblung n MJnunnr} oftlte pcliUtHi 

in the lcdc!ral Rcgilitc:r be~o.:ausc the m1UC!s•crl cxten::-.ion oflh1.1 e\empuotl '-\Oul..t nol s..:t n 

precedent. nnd ru1; delay in OC'Iitl:l} on this petition would be dctritnentnl eo Boomg. 

Our ~ision 

TI1~ FAA has dcu:rmin"'d ttuu l he j usti 11cntion for Ehc i"iS~~-t·u.c.: CliT '<'--mptaon ~u. RS2 7, u~ 

amended. n.mmins \'tllid with n::.i!pect to lhi.scx~mplioo JJ1~1 i:; in the pt~blic intCf'rl:"\1 T~rcfim:. 

undc:t· th~ muhorit~ f!ft:.l\1idt."{l b)' 49 U ~.C. 401 U ru1d 44701. \\hkh the I \ \ 1\dnum<;lmtor 

h::1.!l dctegmed w m..;. I t;nmt ~Qur pctilifm. 

l'hr- Effect of Our D~fision 

Ourdcc simlt:.~tcnds lh~ 1<"ttnitWli(m d~ec •}f 1:..-<c-mption ~o 8827, J!'lo •lltl1mlkJ. M 

Jam.~~ !} J I, 20 J 5. nnlc c; Sl."')(>ncr l\:ll]ltrscdcd 11r rc~inded 

c;inccrdy.