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# OAR Box 1384 Prepped by Charmelle Mathews



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# 206TII-E-166 

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# A-94-5 2

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### Sheet 206 of 264P. 2 

# *ER G
EASTER N RESEARC H GROUP . INC . 

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Distribution : Projec t Numbe r 0085-00-019-00 4 Projec t Nam e Boa t Manufacturin g NESHA P Genera l Subject Regulato rMarin e Dat e o f Cal l Monday , Jul y6 , Monda

yJul y13 , an d Frida yJul y14,199 8 Perso n Called/Compan y Jef f Maso n an d Owe n Maxwel l Regulato rMarin e 18 7 Peanu t Dr. , P.O
. Box4 9 Edenton , N C 27932 Perso n Callin g Bria n Palmer , ERG , Inc
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Telephon e Numbe r (252 ) 482-383 7 Fax : (252 ) 482-557 7 Signatur e an d Dat e Teleco n Confirme d (Confirme d ove rth e telephon e wit h Jef f Maso n OP
. July'21,1998 , b

y3ria n Palmer)
. TOPIC S DISCUSSE D AN D ACTIO N TAKE N I calle d Mr
. Maso n an d Mr
. Maxwel l t o collect informatio n o n indirec t costs associate d wit h switchin g t o lowe remittin g resi n an d ge l coat applicatio n equipmen t an d lowe rHA P materials
. Regulato rMarin e i s a smal l compan ywit h abou t 4 0 employee s an d build s abou t 12 0 saltwate rfishin g boat s pe ryea rtha t are 2 1 t o 2 6 fee t long
. Th e compan yi s currentl yplannin g t o mov e int o a large rfacilityi n th e nex t si xmonth s an d doubl e thei rproduction
. The ywil l als o start buildin g a 32-foct boat i n th e ne wfacility
. Th e facilitycurrentl yuse s thre e Sink s air-atomize d choppe rspraygun s t o appl yresi n an d on e air-atomize d spra ygu n an d on e HVL P spra ygu n t o appl yge l ccat . Regulato rMarin e has thre e full-tim e laminatio n worker s an d on e ge l coat applicator
. Th e thre e resi n workers are eac h dedicate d t o smal l parts ; hulls ; an d decks , liners , an d stringers
. Othe rworker s als o perfor m laminatio n operation s whe n needed , bu t ar e no t dedicate d t o lamination
. Th e boat s buil t byRegulato rMarin e d o no t hav e dee p narrowparts , suc h a s thos e found o n th e cockpi t side s o f som e fishin g boats , accordin g t o Mr
. Mason
. On e choppe rspra

ygu n operate s a t 3 5 ps i a t th e pum p an d th e othe rtw o operat e a t 5 5 ps i a t th e pump . Th e choppe rmotor

s operat e a t 6 0 psi
. Mr
. Maso n reporte d that a t a choppe rmoto rair-pressure belo w4 5 psi , th e choppe rmotor , whic h als o pull s an d cut s th e roving , begin s t o los e power . A s a resul t th e moto ri s mor e likel yt o ja m i f a smal l kno t i n th e rovin g catche s i n th e guide s o ri n th e chopper-head
. I n addit'on , th e chopper-hea d doe s not achieve th e sam e glas s distributio n patter n a t lowe rai rpressure s a

s i t doe s at highe rpressures . However , th e chopper-moto rair-pressur e shoul d not affec t emissions , accordin g t o Mr
. Mason
. Regulato rMarin e i s currentl ytestin g a Magnu m internal-mi xflo wcoater . Mr
. Maso n reporte d tha t internal mi xflo wcoater s an d spraygun s have a lowe rcatalys t odo rtha n external-mi xguns . However , the yrequir e abou t 2 0 minute s mor

e maintenanc e pe rdaype rgu n tha n externa l mi xflo wcoater s o rsprayguns . The yP. 3

pla n t o eventuall y purchas e thre e mor e flo wcoater s an d th e estimate d cost wil l b e $6,00 0 pe runi t Th e $6,00 0 wil l includ e th e flowcoate ran d th e resi n an d catalys t pump . They wil l purchas e ne wresi n an d catalys t pump s becaus e the y ar e switchin g fro m Sinks t o Magnu m products . The y wi U us e th e boom s from th e spra y gun s they ar e usin g now . Mr . Masc n estimate d th e laminator s spen t abou t tw o day s learnin g he wt c us e th e flowcoater . They wil l puchas e tw o ne wboom s whe n they mov e t o th e ne wshop . Th e resin , worker s a t Regulato rMarin e currentl y wea rhalf-fac e respirators . However , i n th e ne wfacilit y th e worker s usin g th e internal-mi xfiowcoater s wil l probabl y no t nee d respirator s becaus e o fa mor e efficien t ventilatio n syste m an d becaus e o freduce d emission s fro m th e flowcoaters . Regulato rMarin e ha s not-yet investigate d lowe rstvren e resins . The y wil l begi n t o d o s o afte rthe y hav e settle d into th e ne wfacility , accordin g t o Mr . Mason . Mr . Maso n commente d tha t th e resi n i s a basi c ingredien t determinin g th e qualit y o fth e bea t H e explaine d tha t resi n an d ge ! coa t ca n continu e t o cur e fo r abou t si xmonths , i fimproperl y applied , afte ra boa t i s constructed . Durin g tha t time, print-throug h ca n occu ra s th e resi n an d ge l coa t shrink . I ftha t occurs , o ri fth e ge l coa t cracks , thi s coul d lea d t o warrant y issue s an d th e compan y coul d b e responsibl e fo rreplacin g th e hul l ofth e boat . The y ar e currentl y applyin g ge l cca t wit h on e air-atomizs d spra y gu n an d on e HVL P spra y gun . Th e spra y gun s ar e operate d a t 4 5 ps i pum p pressure . Mr . Maso n repone d th e ge l coa t operato rca n star t th e gu n o n th e mold , rathe rtha n of

fth e mold , an d srjfl b e sur e th e materia l i s propert y catalyzed . Mr . Maxwel l describe d som e ofth e difference s the y hav e observe d an d encountere d i n switchin g t o choppe rflo wcoaters . They hav e bee n testin g choppe rflo wcoater s b y Venu s an d Magnum . The y hav e foun d tha t o n smalle rparts , th e flo wcoater s ma y b e abl e t o produc e bette rpart s tha n spra y gun s becaus e th e worke rha s more contro l ove rth e resin . Th e worke rals o ha s les s resi n overspray blowin g bac k toward s the m s o the y hav e a cleare rvie wo fth e par t the y ar e building . Thi s i s particularl ytru e whe n laminatin g insid e enclose d part s suc h a s th e insid e o fa console . Mr . Maxwel l reporte d tha t whe n buildin g hulls , the y ar e stil l experimentin g wit h differen t ti p size s o n th e choppe rflo wcoate rto achiev e th e sam e productio n rat e a s the y ca n wit h th e choppe rspra y guns . T o increas e th e resi n deliver y rat e wit h a choppe rspra y gun . th e operato rsimpl yha s t o increas e th e flui d pressure . However , wit h th e choppe rflo wcoaters . the y hav e t o sto p an d switc h gu n tip s t o increas e th e delivery rate . Thi s lead s t o a brea k i n th e wor k

flow , accordin g t o Mr . Maxwell . Mr . Maxwel l di d no t fee l tha t th e choppe rflowcoater s woul d preven t the m fro m buildin g an y o fth e part s the y ar e ne wcurrentl y building . H e als o note d tha t th e wor k environmen t i s cleane rwit h th e flo wcoater s tha n v/it h th e spra y gun s an d th e worker s hav e accepte d usin g th e flowcoater s an d i n som e case s prefe rthem . Th e choppe rflo wcoater s mus t b e flushe d v/it h aceton e solven t i fther e i s a brea k i n th e wor k

flo wan d the y ar e pu t down . Mr . Maxwel l estimate s tha t a coupl e o founce s o faceton e ar e use d pe rflush . Th e flushe d aceton e i s typicall y shot ont o th e flooran d allowe d t o evaporate . Aceton e i s als o use d fo rcleanin g smal l tool s an d othe rpiece s o fequipment . I n thes e cases , th e aceton e i s store d i n safet y an d di p cans . Regulato rMarin e als o take s ethe rsafet y precaution s wit h acetone , suc h a s groundin g th e aceton e bucket s an d barrel s t

o preven t stati c electricity . Mr . Maxwel l reporte d tha t they hav e not ye t foun d a n alternativ e solven t tha t works a s wel l a s acetone .



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