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# ON PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE NATIONAL AMBIENT AIR

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## EPA MODERATORS: 2 

## JAMES DEMOCKER 3 

## ROBIN LANGDON 4 

## TOM POWERS 5 

## MELINA WILLIAMS 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22

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### P R O C E E D I N G S 2 

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### MR. POWERS: Good morning everybody. I 4 

### think we'll get started since we have a lot of 5 

### people who would like to testify today. My name is 6 

### Tom Powers. I'm the chair of this session -- this 7 

### morning's session of today's public hearing. Thank 8 

### you very much for coming today. 9 

### Joining me on the panel to my right is 10 

### Melina Williams. We are here today to listen to 11 

### your comments on proposed revisions to the National 12 

### Ambient Air Quality Standards for Ozone. EPA 13 

### announced this proposed rule on November 25, 2014, 14 

### published it in the "Federal Register" December 17, 15 

### 2014. 16 

### EPA's proposal is based on extensive 17 

### scientific evidence about ozone's effects on public 18 

### health and welfare. The proposed updates are 19 

### intended to improve public health protection, 20 

### particularly for children, the elderly, and people 21 

### of all ages who have lung diseases such as asthma, 22 

### as well as improved public welfare protection, 

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### particularly related to ozone-sensitive trees and 2 

### other plants in protected forests and ecosystems 3 

### such as national wilderness areas. 4 

### We have proposed to strengthen both the 5 

### primary ozone standard to protect public health and 6 

### the secondary ozone standard to protect public 7 

### welfare. We're proposing to set the levels of the 8 

### primary and the secondary standards in a range 9 

### between 65 and 70 parts per billion. These 10 

### standards would be met when the three or average of 11 

### the annual fourth highest daily maximum eight-hour 12 

### average ozone concentration is at or below the new 13 

### level. 14 

### The proposal would also extend the ozone 15 

### monitoring season for many states and update the Air 16 

### Quality Index to ensure people are better informed 17 

### about their air quality. These proposed standards 18 

### do not establish a mission control requirement for 19 

### any particular industry. Each state, as needed, 20 

### will determine how to best meet the standards in a 21 

### way that makes the most sense for that area. States 22 

### will have time to develop and implement plans to



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### meet the revised standards, and existing and 2 

### proposed federal rules will help the vast majority 3 

### of the areas meet the proposed standards by 2025. 4 

### I'd like to tank -- thank you for taking 5 

### time out of your day to join us in share -- sharing 6 

### your comments. We will accept comments on all 7 

### aspects of the proposal, including the option of 8 

### retaining the existing standards. 9 

### Before we get started, a few housekeeping 10 

### items and ground rules to make today's hearing run 11 

### smoothly. This is not in my script, but it occurs 12 

### to me people may wonder where the restrooms are. 13 

### They are out the door and to the right, down and to 14 

### the left in that hall. 15 

### Please be sure you've checked in at the 16 

### registration desk even if you're not planning to 17 

### speak today. And if you did sign up to speak online 18 

### or by phone but haven't told us that you're here, 19 

### please step out to the registration desk and let the 20 

### EPA staff there know that you've arrived so we're 21 

### sure we get you on as quickly as possible. 22 

### All right, here's how today's hearing will

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### work. I will call speakers in pairs. They will sit 2 

### at the table right in front of -- front of us here. 3 

### When your name is called, please come to the table 4 

### at the front of the room. Remain at the table until 5 

### both speakers have completed their comments. 6 

### When I call you to speak, please spell 7 

### your name for the -- state your name and spell it 8 

### for the court reporter. Your comments will be 9 

### transcribed and included in the official record of 10 

### comments or docket on the proposed rule. Each 11 

### speaker will have five minutes to give comments. We 12 

### have a light to help you know how much time you have 13 

### left to speak. Lina is in charge of the light. It 14 

### will turn from green to yellow, and that means you 15 

### have one minute remaining. When it turns red, 16 

### that's the signal to wrap up your test -- your 17 

### testimony. It will flash red and beat when you have 18 

### spoken for five minutes, and that means it's time to 19 

### stop because somebody else is waiting to speak next. 20 

### When you finish speaking, please remain at 21 

### the table if you're the first of the pair until the 22 

### person next to you has completed his or her



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### testimony. We are here to listen today, but a panel 2 

### member may ask questions to clarify your comments. 3 

### I'll then call the next pair of speakers up and so 4 

### forth. 5 

### If you have a written copy of your 6 

### testimony, please give it to the staff at the 7 

### registration desk before you leave today. We will 8 

### put any written comments today -- submitted today in 9 

### the official docket for the proposed rule. And 10 

### also, if you have additional comments after the 11 

### hearing today you'd like -- that you'd like to make, 12 

### you'll have until March 17th to submit them in 13 

### writing. You can think of it as celebrating St. 14 

### Patrick's Day by filing your comments at the 15 

### deadline. Instructions for submitting additional 16 

### written comments are available at the materials 17 

### table near the registration desk with the address 18 

### and other relevant information. 19 

### The hearing today is going to continue 20 

### until 7:30 tonight. We'll take a lunch break from 1 21 

### to 2:30, and then continue straight until 7:30. 22 

### Occasion -- occasionally, we may take a short break 

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### throughout the day as needed and we'll keep you 2 

### posted on that. I should note that there will be a 3 

### different panel in the afternoon. Melina and I are 4 

### off to do something else in the afternoon, so do not 5 

### feel like you're in the wrong place if you see 6 

### different people here for the panel in the 7 

### afternoon. If you have any questions during the 8 

### day, please see staff at the registration desk and 9 

### someone will try to help you. 10 

### And finally, I want to ask each of you to 11 

### be respectful of everyone who speaks today. We have 12 

### people with a wide variety of views in the audience 13 

### and we do want to hear from all of you. So we can 14 

### do that and be fair to everyone, we ask that 15 

### everyone listen quietly. Even applause can slow 16 

### things down, and we want to hear from everyone who 17 

### has signed up to speak. 18 

### With that, thank you again for taking the 19 

### time to come today and share your comments with us, 20 

### and let's get started. The first two speakers are 21 

### Rebecca Geary and Ryan Knapick. 22 

### MS. GEARY: Good morning. My name is



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### Rebecca Geary, and I'm honored to be back before you 2 

### to share my story and advocate for healthy air 3 

### protections. 4 

### I was a child in the sixties and grew up 5 

### in a home where both parents were chain smokers and 6 

### they smoked in the house. We as a nation were just 7 

### beginning to be informed that smoking may be 8 

### dangerous to one's health. My sisters and brothers 9 

### and I used to make a game out of diving under the 10 

### cloud of smoke that hung in the living room so we 11 

### could lie on the floor and watch TV. 12 

### Fast forward to 2007, I'm the mother of 13 

### four grown children and grandma of eight. All of my 14 

### adult years have been spent living -- sorry -- a 15 

### healthy lifestyle that included a clean diet, 16 

### exercise and the love of clean, smoke-free outdoors. 17 

### I've lived most of my life in the Pacific Northwest 18 

### where the air is crisp and clean, but I've always 19 

### avoided secondhand smoke, because not only do I have 20 

### asthma, but I find it offensive. 21 

### I was in college at the time in 2007, just 22 

### finishing up prerequisites to nursing school, when I

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4 (Pages 10 to 13) Page 10 1 was diagnosed with lung cancer. I underwent 2 extensive surgery to remove one of my lungs and 3 other suspect tissues, followed by weeks of 4 chemotherapy and months of nausea, weakness and hair 5 loss. Right after the surgery, I didn't have enough 6 breath to put two words together before I had to 7 take another breath. 8 For a person with diminished breathing 9 ability, walking up a flight of stairs can be a 10 chore. I know this from experience. For the first 11 few school terms after my surgery, I was so very 12 winded when I had to walk upstairs to get to 13 classes. More than once I got a lungful of 14 cigarette smoke on the way up and had to stop 15 because I couldn't breathe. That's when I started 16 telling my story to advocate for change. 17 I was in touch with the American Lung 18 Association, who obtained three minute's audience 19 for me with the Board of Directors at my college. I 20 was able to share my concerns and my story and as a 21 result, the school immediately implemented the plan 22 that made the campus tobacco free in January 2010.



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### When I moved from the Pacific Northwest to 2 

### the south side region of Virginia, I began to 3 

### advocate for protections against outdoor air 4 

### pollution as well. We've made great progress in 5 

### cleaning up tobacco smoke there, but the air won't 6 

### be truly healthy until it's free of dangerous 7 

### pollution like ozone. 8 

### I have fought very hard to expand the 9 

### capacity of one -- my one lung up to near capacity 10 

### of two lungs. I've participated in 5K runs where I 11 

### walked most of the time because of my asthma, and I 12 

### make a concerted effort to always avoid places that 13 

### will cause me to breathe toxins because I become 14 

### very anxious if I'm in a place where I'm breathing 15 

### something that's potentially dangerous. 16 

### Unfortunately, both in my former home of 17 

### Ridgeway, Virginia, and my current home of Durham, 18 

### North Carolina, we breathe unhealthy levels of ozone 19 

### pollution or smog. We do have much less smog in our 20 

### air than we used to, but there are still days when 21 

### it's unhealthy for me to go outside. And there's a 22 

### deeper problem too. In order to know whether or not 

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### the pollution levels are safe to breathe on a given 2 

### day, we rely on you, the EPA. Your Air Quality 3 

### Index is crucial for people like me, because when 4 

### the smog level is over the limit, people with lung 5 

### disease know that they should stay inside that day. 6 

### But right now, that limit on ozone is out 7 

### of date. That means there may be days when it's 8 

### unhealthy to breathe outdoors, and we never even 9 

### hear about it. That's why I'm calling on you to set 10 

### a new limit on ozone pollution that truly protects 11 

### our health. The science shows that we need a more 12 

### protective limit on this pollutant and that a new 13 

### limit of 60 parts per billion is necessary to truly 14 

### protect our health with an adequate margin of 15 

### safety. 16 

### I'm truly passionate about helping people 17 

### be healthy. Despite the challenges I face with my 18 

### own health, I finished nursing school on time and 19 

### began working as a nurse. I finished my bachelor's 20 

### degree in 2012, and I'm currently working on 21 

### graduate school. I'm going to keep telling my story 22 

### to advocate for protections against pollution.



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### And I wanted to tell you about one 2 

### particular patient that comes to mind. She was in 3 

### her twenties -- a young woman with asthma -- and 4 

### went to a park on a hot day where it was -- the air 5 

### was still. She wasn't doing anything strenuous but 6 

### she had a life threatening form of asthma called -- 7 

### or an attack called status asthmaticus. 8 

### When I got her in the hospital in my unit, 9 

### she was on 100 percent non-re-breather. Her eyes 10 

### were wild with fear and all she could do was just 11 

### sit there and work on breathing. We couldn't do 12 

### anything for her except give her inhaled and 13 

### intervenous steroids and wait for the medication to 14 

### open her lungs up. The wheezing was so loud you 15 

### could hear it clear down the hall, and she was so 16 

### frightened. 17 

### Fortunately, that girl survived, but I'd 18 

### like to see stricter laws come into effect so that 19 

### those of us with compromised breathing ability know 20 

### when it's not safe for us to go outside. Thank you 21 

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### testimony. Ryan? 2 

### MR. KNAPICK: Good morning. My name is 3 

### Ryan Knapick -- R-y-a-n K-n-a-p-i-c-k. I am a staff 4 

### attorney for the Clean Air Council. Clean Air 5 

### Council is a non-profit environmental organization 6 

### headquartered in Philadelphia. The Council has more 7 

### than 8,000 members throughout the Mid-Atlantic 8 

### region, and for more than 40 years, the Council has 9 

### fought to improve air quality and protect everyone's 10 

### right to breathe clean air. 11 

### Thank you for the opportunity to speak 12 

### today. Clean Air Council supports the EPA's efforts 13 

### to propose new National Ambient Air Quality 14 

### Standards for Ozone. However, the Council believes 15 

### that in terms of public health, the most protective 16 

### primary standard is 60 parts per billion. Although 17 

### progress has been made to reduce ozone levels, 18 

### concentrations of ozone remain unacceptably high in 19 

### many areas across the country. 20 

### In Pennsylvania, 9 of the 10 most 21 

### populated counties are designated non-attainment for 22 

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### statistical areas are among the most polluted in the 2 

### U.S. Consequently, over 60 percent of Pennsylvania 3 

### residents live in an ozone non-attainment area. 4 

### Exposure to high concentration of ozone 5 

### can lead to significant health effects, such as 6 

### aggravation to existing respiratory and cardiac 7 

### conditions, lung tissue damage and premature death. 8 

### These impacts pose an even greater threat for 9 

### children, the elderly and those with preexisting 10 

### conditions, asthma in particular. 11 

### According to estimates, a standard at 60 12 

### parts per billion would provide benefits of 4,000 to 13 

### 12,000 fewer premature deaths, 21,000 fewer hospital 14 

### and emergency room visits, and mortality benefits 15 

### and other health improvements that range from 35 16 

### billion to 100 billion dollars per year by the year 17 

### 2020. Lastly, reduced health impacts on American 18 

### families and workers translate directly into less 19 

### time missed out of school and at work. 20 

### In reviewing the current standards, the 21 

### Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee, or CASAC, 22 

### recommended a revision of the primary standard and 

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### arranged from 60 to 70 parts per billion, including 2 

### that the 75 parts per billion level is inadequate to 3 

### protect public health from the negative impacts of 4 

### ozone pollution. 5 

### CASAC also noted that even healthy 6 

### individuals exhibited exposure responses at -- ozone 7 

### levels as low as 60 parts per billion, thus the 8 

### Council believes it is unreasonable to discount the 9 

### effects a standard above 60 parts per billion would 10 

### have on at-risk segments of the public due to 11 

### considerations of risk uncertainty and other 12 

### balancing considerations. 13 

### The Council also believes that a strong 14 

### ozone standard is a critical component of EPA's 15 

### future regulatory agenda. A Clean Power Plan, 16 

### direct regulation of methane, an updated air 17 

### transport rule all stand to benefit. For example, 18 

### where the agency has considered fuel switching and 19 

### process changes as mission abatement strategies, 20 

### resources in the energy generation sector, the 21 

### Council would urge EPA to also place energy 22 

### efficiency at the forefront of any such strategy.



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### EPA must set stringent standards for ozone 2 

### because there is clear, scientific support for a 3 

### protective standard that safeguards all segments of 4 

### the American public, young and old. Clean Air 5 

### Council supports the EPA's effort to reduce ozone 6 

### pollution, as doing so will have a direct impact on 7 

### improving air quality, public health in Pennsylvania 8 

### and across the country. 9 

### Thank you. 10 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you very much. The 11 

### next two speakers are Kevin Sunday and Paul 12 

### Billings. 13 

### MR. SUNDAY: Good morning. My name is 14 

### Kevin Sunday -- K-e-v-i-n S-u-n-d-a-y. I am the 15 

### manager of Government Affairs for the Pennsylvania 16 

### Chamber of Business and Industry. We are the 17 

### largest broad-based business advocacy association in 18 

### Pennsylvania and we represent thousands of members 19 

### across every sector. 20 

### I want to thank EPA for holding this 21 

### hearing and the professionalism and diligence of 22 

### their staff in getting this session organized. I

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### also want to thank EPA in advance for their time in 2 

### reviewing our comments and listening to our 3 

### concerns. 4 

### And our message today is this: EPA should 5 

### maintain the current standard of 75 parts per 6 

### billion. A downward revision to 70, 65 or even 60 7 

### parts per billion would inflect tremendous 8 

### compliance costs on our economy and provide a ripple 9 

### effect to nearly ever facet of it. It's clear that 10 

### these costs would be a tremendous waste of money 11 

### given that EPA says in its documents that this 12 

### rule-making, and I quote, "EPA's projection showed 13 

### that the vast majority of U.S. counties would meet 14 

### the proposed standards by 2025 just with the rules 15 

### and programs now in place or underway." 16 

### Industry has taken great strides to cut 17 

### emissions and while not without significant cost, we 18 

### are getting significant reductions in ozone 19 

### precursors of NOx and VOCs. Federal requirements 20 

### that are already on the books, or soon will be, 21 

### include NOx for PM2.5, SO2 and other pollutants, 22 

### MATS, CSAPR, the Clean Power Plan, and the Boiler



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### MACT, all which will contribute to significant 2 

### reductions in emissions. 3 

### In addition, we have state laws on the 4 

### books in Pennsylvania that will increase energy 5 

### efficiency and increase renewables deployment 6 

### through the rest of the decade. Pennsylvania also 7 

### has one of the most aggressive vehicle emissions 8 

### inspection programs in the nation, as well as 9 

### innovative regulations governing emissions from 10 

### natural gas compressors and well sites. 11 

### Pennsylvania also recently prepared its 12 

### final revisions to the RAC rule, which will get us 13 

### additional reductions from sources across the state, 14 

### more use of natural gas and heating, power 15 

### generation, and CHP projects will lower emissions as 16 

### well. And most importantly, there are key 17 

### provisions of Pennsylvania's SIP for the 2008 ozone 18 

### standard that either await EPA approval or have only 19 

### been on the books for a few years. Please give us 20 

### time to implement what's already out there. 21 

### And even with only parts of the 2008 SIP 22 

### underway, Pennsylvania has already, between 2008 and 

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### 2012, reduced emissions of SOx by 68 percent, NOx by 2 

### 29 percent, VOCs by 21 percent, and carbon monoxide 3 

### by 16 percent. These reductions are having a 4 

### demonstrated impact on air quality with the EPA 5 

### forecasting fewer and fewer severe air quality 6 

### alerts each year. 7 

### In 2014, on just four days where ozone 8 

### action days forecasted in one or more regions in 9 

### Pennsylvania, compared to 28 such days in 2012, a 10 

### significant development considering the EPA 11 

### announced near the end of ozone forecasting season 12 

### in 2012, it would begin adding forecasting for eight 13 

### additional regions for a total of 13 regions in the 14 

### state. The whole state is monitoring attainment for 15 

### the 1997 ozone standard and we are almost the whole 16 

### way there with 2008. Recent Pennsylvania DEP data 17 

### showed that with the exception of one monitoring 18 

### station, the whole state is under the 2008 standard. 19 

### We've made significant progress, but an 20 

### abrupt drop in the ozone NAAQS would throw much of 21 

### the country and Pennsylvania into non-attainment 22 

### with grave consequences. And there are hundreds of



### Page 21 1 thousands of Pennsylvanians employed in construction 2 and various trades, and federal highway funding for 3 badly needed infrastructure projects would be 4 jeopardized by widespread non-attainment 5 designations. 6 Federal highway funding makes up 7 approximately 50 percent of all bridge and road 8 capital investments in Pennsylvania. If much of the 9 state is put into non-attainment, the average 10 consumer would see higher energy prices at the pump 11 and in their utility bills. Manufacturers who 12 employ blue collar workers, the segment of the 13 workforce that needs a leg up right now, might not 14 be able to expand or even open their doors under 15 non-attainment designations. 16 While case law may not require EPA to 17 examine economic consequences of NAAQS requirements, 18 that does not mean EPA should outright ignore all 19 effects of the rules. It was on economic grounds 20 that the president asked EPA to hold off on a new 21 ozone NAAQS in 2011, and those concerns should still 22 stand. Given that Pennsylvania is in the ozone

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### transport region, and that's already put us at a 2 

### competitive disadvantage with other states and other 3 

### countries, and given that EPA has said we are going 4 

### to get to a lower level of background ozone very 5 

### soon with or without this rule, and given the 6 

### tremendous costs associated with this rule, on 7 

### behalf of the Pennsylvania Chamber, I again urge EPA 8 

### to maintain the current standard. 9 

### Thank you. 10 

### MR. BILLINGS: Good morning. I'm pleased 11 

### to speak today in support of strengthening the 12 

### National Ambient Air Quality Standard for Ozone. My 13 

### name is Paul Billings -- P-a-u-l B-i-l-l-i-n-g-s -- 14 

### and I am the senior vice president of advocacy and 15 

### education for the American Lung Association. The 16 

### Lung Association is the nation's oldest voluntary 17 

### health organization. Our mission is to save lives 18 

### by improving lung health and preventing lung 19 

### disease. 20 

### Air pollution, ozone smog, harms health. 21 

### The Clean Air Act requires EPA to set standards that 22 

### protect health. Today marks the third time in eight



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### years I've testified before EPA urging a standard of 2 

### 60 parts per billion. Five years ago, in 2010, I 3 

### spoke in support of this much more protective 4 

### standard. In August 2007, in Philadelphia, the 5 

### American Lung Association called on the EPA to adopt 6 

### a primary National Ambient Air Quality Standard for 7 

### Ozone of 60 parts per billion averaged over eight 8 

### hours. 9 

### The Clean Air Act requires the standard to 10 

### be set at a level that does not harm health, 11 

### including an adequate margin of safety. This clear 12 

### intent of Congress has been affirmed by a unanimous 13 

### decision of the Supreme Court. As I have testified 14 

### before, clean, healthy air is personal for me and my 15 

### family. My wife and I are blessed to have two 16 

### active daughters. Our youngest, who runs track and 17 

### plays soccer, has asthma, and hot, smoggy days make 18 

### it harder for her to breathe. Smog-induced asthma 19 

### can mean the difference between winning and losing a 20 

### race. It can also be much more serious, leading to 21 

### wheezing and struggling for breath. 22 

### In my wife's fifth grade class in Wheaton, 

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### Maryland, there are too many children with asthma 2 

### who are at risk from air pollution. The Clean Air 3 

### Act requires that the ozone standard protect all 4 

### children, whose lungs are still developing. Their 5 

### families, my family, and millions of others with 6 

### asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease and 7 

### other chronic conditions, deserve to know the truth 8 

### about the air quality that we are breathing. 9 

### The current standard misleads all of us 10 

### about that air. The law is clear that the standard 11 

### must be set solely on one question -- at what level 12 

### does ozone harm health? But the law will not stop 13 

### some individuals and organizations who continue to 14 

### make the same outrageous claims about costs they 15 

### were making for years. These claims have been 16 

### proven false. 17 

### You'll hear specious arguments about 18 

### feasibility, again, clearly not relevant to the 19 

### decision before the agency today. But understand, 20 

### such claims are unfounded. We have the tools in 21 

### place to meet new ozone standards -- pollution 22 

### cleanup coming from tier 3 vehicles and lower sulfur



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### gasoline, cleaner power plants, and additional plans 2 

### to clean up carbon pollution and methane. 3 

### We also know there are too many power 4 

### plants not using NOx controls that are already 5 

### installed, simply running pollution controls, 6 

### together with taking advantage of further 7 

### opportunities to reduce pollution from large trucks 8 

### and other mobile stationary and area sources will 9 

### help most areas meet the new protective standards. 10 

### As you know, cost and feasibility will be 11 

### fully considered during the implementation phase of 12 

### the process. Some arguments you'll hear are absurd. 13 

### A strong ozone standard will not block a new 14 

### hospital from being built, but a new standard may 15 

### help keep someone you love from having to be rushed 16 

### to the hospital. 17 

### Finally, you'll hear shrill claims about 18 

### uncertainty. I want to be clear, setting a standard 19 

### of 60 parts per billion will provide more certainty 20 

### and cleaner air. The Clean Air Scientific Advisory 21 

### Committee Ozone Review Panel, 20 esteemed and 22 

### independent scientists, looked at the evidence from

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### over 2,000 studies. These scientists have 2 

### unanimously concluded that EPA must set a standard 3 

### between 60 and 70 parts per billion. They wrote, 4 

### quote, "The recommended lower bound of 60 ppb would 5 

### certainly offer more public health protection than 6 

### levels of 70 ppb or 65 ppb, and would provide an 7 

### adequate margin of safety." 8 

### Remember, ozone is a killer. A standard 9 

### set at 60 parts per billion will prevent up to 7,900 10 

### premature deaths -- 7,900 premature deaths -- 1.8 11 

### million asthma attacks in children, and 1.9 million 12 

### missed school days each year. It certainly will 13 

### provide essential health protection. There is 14 

### scientific consensus. The law is unambiguous. EPA 15 

### must adopt the standard that protects the health of 16 

### the public with an adequate margin of safety. 17 

### On behalf of the American Lung 18 

### Association, I urge you to follow the law and the 19 

### science, and remember the words of CASAC: "60 ppb 20 

### would certainly offer more public health protection 21 

### than levels of 70 ppb or 65 ppb." 22 

### Thank you very much.



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### MR. POWERS: Thank you both for your 2 

### testimony. Next pair is Roger McClellan and Josh 3 

### Stebbins. 4 

### MR. McCLELLAN: Good morning. I'm Roger 5 

### McClellan, advisor to public and private 6 

### organizations on inhalation toxicology and human 7 

### health risk analysis related to air quality. I have 8 

### served on numerous clean air scientific advisory 9 

### panels and had the pleasure and privilege of 10 

### chairing CASAC for four years, thus, I understand 11 

### from first-hand experience the process by which the 12 

### air quality standards are developed and the role of 13 

### CASAC. 14 

### The process by which the standards are 15 

### developed has two key phases. In the first phase, 16 

### all the relevant science is reviewed and integrated. 17 

### In the second phase, which is now coming to a 18 

### conclusion, the science is used to inform policy 19 

### judgments that lead to a succinct policy outcome -- 20 

### the standard with an indicator, an averaging time, a 21 

### numerical concentration, and a statistical form. 22 

### The comments I offer today are based on my 

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### closely following the multiple steps in the process 2 

### that have taken place since 19 -- since 2008 up to 3 

### the proposal of the present proposed rule. I am 4 

### still reviewing the proposed rule, hence the 5 

### comments that are offered today are a placeholder 6 

### for the final comments I plan to offer the agency. 7 

### At this time, I want to make several 8 

### points. I am pleased that the EPA administrator has 9 

### requested comments on the level from the current 10 

### standard -- 75 ppb -- down to 60 ppb. This affirms 11 

### that the 75 ppb level is not precluded by the 12 

### available science. 13 

### Two, as already emphasized, the setting of 14 

### a particular NAAQS requires the administrator to 15 

### make policy judgments informed by science. Science 16 

### alone is not sufficient to set the standards. CASAC 17 

### has an important role in reviewing EPA's assessment, 18 

### the science on ozone. However, that's an assessment 19 

### of that science. In my opinion, in this review, 20 

### CASAC has attempted to create a scientific algorithm 21 

### for identifying a science-based upper limit for the 22 

### standard. Quite frankly, this step is not possible



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### without introducing the personal value judgments of 2 

### individual CASAC members, and most importantly, goes 3 

### beyond the specified advisory role of CASAC. 4 

### Four, it's important to recognize the 5 

### earlier ozone standards have been effective in 6 

### achieving continuous reductions in ozone levels in 7 

### most locales across the U.S. Implementation of the 8 

### ozone acts of 75 ppb set in 2008 is expected to have 9 

### further positive impacts in reducing ambient ozone. 10 

### The EPA has not yet provided the formal 11 

### guidance for states to implement that standard. 12 

### There is a robust body of scientific information on 13 

### the complex processes by which ozone is formed and 14 

### degraded. Perhaps the most remarkable increase in 15 

### knowledge of ozone in the last decade has been the 16 

### new information and the relatively high and variable 17 

### levels of background ozone across the USA. 18 

### As ozone -- as ambient ozone levels have 19 

### been reduced, the complex process of ozone formation 20 

### degradation poses even more challenges -- challenges 21 

### for developing ozone-controlled strategies. Indeed, 22 

### as EPA has acknowledged, further reductions of NOx

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### in some locales may actually increase ambient ozone. 2 

### This disbenefit phenomena must be considered by the 3 

### administrator in promulgating any new standard. 4 

### The epidemiological database on ambient 5 

### ozone has steadily increased. Perhaps the most 6 

### striking finding in recent years has been the extent 7 

### to which associations previously attributed to 8 

### ambient ozone may be largely associated with the 9 

### co-pollutant PM2.5. The database on controlled 10 

### exposure of excising human subjects has increased 11 

### very modestly, with increased attention 12 

### appropriately focusing on re-analysis as to what 13 

### effects are adverse or not. 14 

### Finally, it's important to recognize that 15 

### the promulgation of a final NAAQS for Ozone will 16 

### involve a set of policy judgments that can only be 17 

### made by the EPA administrator, informed by the 18 

### available science. The available scientific 19 

### information does not preclude those policy 20 

### judgments, resulting in reaffirmation of the 2008 21 

### standard, which as I noted, has not yet been 22 

### formally implemented.



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### Thank you for your attention. 2 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you very much. 3 

### MR. STEBBINS: I am Joshua Stebbins. I am 4 

### speaking here today on behalf of myself and on 5 

### behalf of Sierra Club. I'm going to talk about what 6 

### is at stake. What's at stake right now is our 7 

### infants' health -- pneumonia, bronchitis, lung 8 

### damage -- our children's health -- developing 9 

### asthmas, having asthma attacks, missing millions of 10 

### school days -- our parents, our grandparents' 11 

### health, the elderly health. We're talking about 12 

### deaths. 13 

### Environmental justice communities who are 14 

### disproportionately affected, that's what we're 15 

### talking about on the one hand. On the other hand, 16 

### what we're talking about are how large corporate 17 

### profits are, specifically, in particular, utility 18 

### profits. There are costs being paid today. Those 19 

### costs are in the form of our community's health. 20 

### There are economic costs, missed school days. There 21 

### are economic costs in missed work days. There are 22 

### economic costs in public health costs, particularly 

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### for outdoor workers and those other sensitive 2 

### populations I just referenced. 3 

### What needs to be done here is a standard 4 

### of 60 part per billion must be set. The evidence 5 

### supports it. While I don't have time to discuss 6 

### that evidence, I can discuss briefly that every 7 

### major public health and medical society or 8 

### institution has supported a standard of 60 part per 9 

### billion. None of them has supported a standard of 10 

### 70 part per billion. 11 

### What has EPA done here? EPA has 12 

### eliminated a 60 part per billion standard from the 13 

### current range under consideration. It's drafted a 14 

### proposed rule considering 70. In so doing, it has 15 

### relied upon those very institutions that have come 16 

### back, such as the American Thoracic Society, the 17 

### American Lung Association, that have come out and 18 

### said a 70 standard is not protective. 19 

### So the very -- the very institutions that 20 

### EPA is citing this proposed rule are not supportive 21 

### of the higher end of the range that EPA is 22 

### considering. Moreover, they say the devil's in the



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### details. Here the details are the form, the form of 2 

### the standard. The form of the standard is -- 3 

### doesn't really mean that 70 parts per billion is 70 4 

### parts per billion and after -- if you concede that, 5 

### then you need to start to control your pollution. 6 

### In fact, the form that's proposed would allow 7 

### repeated exceedances of 70 parts per billion. You 8 

### can actually -- EPA -- EPA's form would ignore the 9 

### first three exceededness every single year. In 10 

### fact, even at the fourth exceedance, EPA's standard 11 

### would say, well, you can ignore that too unless it's 12 

### averaged over three years. 13 

### Now, the significance of that is not 14 

### necessarily that the form itself has to be amended, 15 

### but the form has to take into consideration the 16 

### numerical standards, and if you -- the higher the 17 

### numerical standard, the more stringent that form can 18 

### be. There is no administrative stability 19 

### requirement to pick the fourth standard. If you're 20 

### averaging it over the fourth highest, if you're 21 

### averaging it over three years, you could pick the 22 

### highest standard in the highest numerical value of a

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### design value for each year and average that over 2 

### three years. That gives you administrative 3 

### stability, which is what EPA is looking for in its 4 

### form. 5 

### So the current form, combined with a 70 6 

### standard, for example, would actually mean that the 7 

### public would repeatedly be exposed to much higher 8 

### levels of ozone than what a 70 standard would 9 

### indicate, and it would move the health protective 10 

### nature of the standard farther and farther from what 11 

### the medical literature suggests and indicates is 12 

### needed, which is a 60 standard. 13 

### So let's talk about costs for just a 14 

### minute. First off, costs are irrelevant. They're 15 

### -- they're irrelevant under the law. There's plenty 16 

### of court precedence on this. They're also typically 17 

### inflated. If you look at EP -- industry's 18 

### discussions of costs of seatbelts in cars or airbags 19 

### in cars or acid rain provisions, they're inflated. 20 

### Moreover, this is a time of change. There 21 

### is technological innovation. These costs come down, 22 

### much like they did in the Clean -- excuse me -- the



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### acid air provision -- acid rain provisions. They're 2 

### also baked-in reductions. More importantly, these 3 

### costs are already being paid. They're being paid by 4 

### our children, by our infants, by our elderly, by our 5 

### families, by our workers, by missed school days. 6 

### The question is only who's going to pay 7 

### the costs and how large they're going to be, and 8 

### your own cost benefit analysis suggests that if you 9 

### control the pollution, the costs will be much 10 

### smaller than if you continue to let the pollution go 11 

### forward at, for example, 70 or 75 parts per billion. 12 

### Briefly, the secondary standard proposed, which is 13 

### effectively the same as a primary standard, does 14 

### ignore the recent D.C. Circuit decision that says 15 

### there has to be an independent secondary standard. 16 

### So in sum, this is about people's health. 17 

### This is about protecting people's health. It should 18 

### not be about -- about concern about how significant 19 

### or how large corporate profits are. We are here 20 

### today paying these prices already. We're paying 21 

### more from them than we would pay if instead we 22 

### simply enacted a stringent standard of control for 

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### these pollutants. Thank you. 2 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you both very much. 3 

### The next two speakers will be Sean Holihan -- pardon 4 

### me if I don't say it right -- and Betsy Monseu. 5 

### MR. HOLIHAN: Hi. Good morning. It's 6 

### Sean Holihan -- S-e-a-n H-o-l-i-h-a-n. Thank you 7 

### for the opportunity to speak before you today. I 8 

### work with the American Lung Association in Virginia 9 

### on our Healthy Air Campaign. We educate the public 10 

### about the impacts of air pollution on human health, 11 

### and we advocate for protections that are 12 

### science-based and strong. 13 

### I'm here to ask that you finalize into law 14 

### an ozone standard that fully protects public health. 15 

### As part of this campaign, we built a coalition of 16 

### public health organizations, medical professionals 17 

### and patients across Virginia who care about healthy 18 

### air. A fully protective ozone standard is one of 19 

### our top priorities because the scientific evidence 20 

### is clear -- our current standard is woefully 21 

### inadequate. 22 

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### the lungs. Ozone is a powerful respiratory irritant 2 

### that can lead to premature death. It can also cause 3 

### shortness of breath, coughing and wheezing, and 4 

### asthma attacks, just to name a few impacts, and it's 5 

### particularly dangerous for children, the elderly and 6 

### people with lung and heart disease. 7 

### We work with public health groups, 8 

### including the Virginia Asthma Coalition, the 9 

### Virginia Public Health Association, the Virginia 10 

### Royal Health -- sorry -- the Virginia Rural Health 11 

### Association. Our coalition partners understand that 12 

### supporting a stronger ozone standard helps the 13 

### health of the communities they serve. 14 

### We also work with dozens and dozens of 15 

### doctors, nurses, respiratory therapists and other 16 

### health professionals who are advocating on behalf of 17 

### their patients. These medical professionals can 18 

### often attest that they have personally seen the 19 

### impact that ozone and other air pollutants have on 20 

### their patients' health. And finally, we work with 21 

### volunteers, many of whom have lung disease 22 

### themselves. In the weeks leading up to this

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### hearing, we asked some of them who couldn't make it 2 

### here in person whether they'd like to pass on a 3 

### message for us. I wanted to share a couple of those 4 

### messages with you in their own words. 5 

### The first is from Karen Shaffer, a 6 

### resident of Bristol, Virgina. She said, "I live in 7 

### a rural part of far Southwest Virginia. I treasure 8 

### the tranquility of my home space. I have spring 9 

### water to serve all my needs, and I look out every 10 

### morning on a forest and field landscape that pleases 11 

### my heart. Others living in Southwest Virginia are 12 

### not as lucky as I am to have clean air at home. 13 

### Coal mining, gas drilling and power plants in nearby 14 

### counties have devastated the land, water and air 15 

### there. 16 

### "Lung disease abounds. The ozone and 17 

### other air contaminant levels are too high. If the 18 

### AP" -- "if the EPA hadn't regulated emissions from 19 

### vehicles and utilities back in the seventies, what 20 

### would my air quality be like today? I am 21 

### greatly" -- "I am grateful for such regulations. 22 

### "Our right to clean air cannot be



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### underestimated. It is imperative. Children suffer 2 

### from asthma and the elderly come down with COPD at 3 

### alarming rates. The future of our planet depends on 4 

### keeping levels of ozone and other air pollutants 5 

### down. The air there" -- "the air is all I have 6 

### here. We can't get it from anywhere else. Let's 7 

### keep our society healthy, our environment clean, and 8 

### focus on that. Everything else is just icing on the 9 

### cake." 10 

### The other letter I wanted to share with 11 

### you today is from a group called the Pulmonary Pals 12 

### of Greater Fredericksburg. This is a support group 13 

### for people with COPD and other lung diseases. At a 14 

### recent meeting, everyone present, 11 members in all, 15 

### signed the following letter: "Dear Administrator 16 

### McCarthy, the Pulmonary Pals of Greater 17 

### Fredericksburg is a supportive organization whose 18 

### members suffer from the various forms of lung 19 

### disease. Difficulty breathing is a condition each 20 

### of us struggles with every day. Our already 21 

### compromised lungs are further weakened by poor air 22 

### quality. Some days it is so bad we are prevented 

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### from leaving our homes to carry on normal 2 

### activities. 3 

### "We are very concerned about cleaning up 4 

### the air we're breathing, not only for ourselves, but 5 

### also for our families, friends and the public in 6 

### general. No one should have their lungs polluted 7 

### due to preventable environmental causes. This 8 

### includes each of you and your families and friends. 9 

### "The air needs cleaning up. The current 10 

### ozone limit is not sufficient to protect the public 11 

### health. It must be lowered to improve air quality. 12 

### We appeal to you -- finalize the law to lower ozone 13 

### standards that the American Lung Association has 14 

### recommended. It will help us all to breathe." 15 

### It's no exaggeration to say that member -- 16 

### that members of that support group are confined to 17 

### their homes on days with high ozone levels. To 18 

### protect their health, we need to continue the 19 

### progress we've made in reducing ozone pollution in 20 

### Fredericksburg and in Virginia as a whole. And 21 

### while that work is still ongoing, our volunteers 22 

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### quality of their air. 2 

### The National Ambient Air Quality Standard 3 

### for Ozone is the official word from EPA on how much 4 

### ozone is safe to breathe. It's the basis for EPA's 5 

### Air Quality Index, which is an important tool that 6 

### people with lung disease -- lung disease use to plan 7 

### their days. But because it's based on outdated 8 

### information about ozone, our volunteers may be told 9 

### that conditions outside are healthy when it's 10 

### actually dangerous to breathe. The standard is long 11 

### overdue for change. 12 

### On behalf of Karen Shaffer, the members of 13 

### the Pulmonary Pals, and the people all over Virginia 14 

### who rely on the American Lung Association to be 15 

### their voice in the fight for healthy air, I ask you 16 

### to finalize an ozone standard of no higher than 60 17 

### parts per billion. Anything less would fail to 18 

### fully protect our health. Thank you. 19 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. Ms. Monseu. 20 

### MS. MONSEU: Good morning. My name is 21 

### Betsy Monseu, and I'm CEO of the American Coal 22 

### Council, or ACC. The ACC has been in existence for

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### 33 years and represents the collective business 2 

### interests of the American coal industry. Our 3 

### members include coal suppliers, transportation 4 

### companies, terminals, electric utilities, industrial 5 

### consumers, and support services providers. They 6 

### touch every aspect of turning one of America's most 7 

### abundant energy resources into reliable, affordable 8 

### electricity. Coal is also integral to the steel 9 

### making process and the industrial production of 10 

### cement, chemicals and paper. 11 

### I appreciate the opportunity to address 12 

### the EPA's proposed NAAQS for Ozone. This rule is 13 

### yet another example of a misguided federal policy on 14 

### air quality. It will fail to deliver anything but 15 

### massive costs and hardship for businesses, 16 

### manufacturers, families and state and local 17 

### governments. Virtually no sector of the American 18 

### economy will escape the reach of this rule. Many 19 

### facilities that would be subject to it are already 20 

### being impacted by other EPA-proposed or enacted 21 

### rules. The rule is a needless piling on of 22 

### governmental regulation.



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### EPA concluded in 2008 that a 75 parts per 2 

### billion standard protects American health. There is 3 

### no justifiable basis for EPA's newly proposed 4 

### standard of 65 to 70 ppb. Concerns expressed in 5 

### 2008 about harmful economic repercussions of 6 

### bringing the standard below 75 ppb are exponentially 7 

### greater now due to increased regulatory compliance 8 

### costs of other EPA rules since then. 9 

### The toll such rules extract is greatest on 10 

### the poor, the elderly and small businesses. These 11 

### groups were most affected by the year's long 12 

### economic downturn and widely acknowledged to still 13 

### be struggling, yet EPA has also indicated it will 14 

### take comment on an even lower ozone standard of 60 15 

### ppb. 16 

### I point to recent studies highlighting the 17 

### dramatic impacts of one, a 60 ppb study, and two, 18 

### the cumulative effects of EPA regulations. A July 19 

### 2014 study by NERA Economic Consulting for the 20 

### National Association of Manufacturers analyzed a 60 21 

### ppb ozone standard and found huge costs and negative 22 

### impacts to the economy, employment and households. 

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### These included U.S. GDP reductions of 270 billion 2 

### per year, a loss of 2.9 million job equivalents 3 

### annually, a decrease of $1,570 in average household 4 

### consumption annually, and increases in electricity 5 

### costs of up to 23 percent and natural gas costs of 6 

### up to 52 percent over the period to 2040. 7 

### To achieve the 60 ppb standard, large 8 

### reductions in NOx are required. Power plants, 9 

### industrial plants, autos, agriculture and commercial 10 

### and residential buildings will be affected. NERA 11 

### reported that EPA had only identified about 12 

### one-third of the controls to meet the 60 ppb 13 

### standard. With two-thirds of the controls unknown, 14 

### it would be exceedingly expensive and potentially 15 

### impossible to comply. 16 

### The other study was done by Energy 17 

### Adventures Analysis in November 2014, prior to EPA's 18 

### release of this ozone rule. It incorporates the 19 

### cumulative cost impacts of EPA regulations, 20 

### including MATS, regional haze, and the Clean Power 21 

### Plan. It projects residential, industrial and 22 

### commercial customers will pay over 284 billion more



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### in 2020 for electricity and natural gas than in 2 

### 2012, a 60 percent increase. The average household 3 

### bill will increase by $680 over the period. 4 

### EPA found that on a percentage basis, the 5 

### industrial sector would be hardest hit with costs 92 6 

### percent higher in 2020 than 2012. Much of the cost 7 

### increase is attributable to higher demand in pricing 8 

### for natural gas due to the premature shutdown of 9 

### coal plants. Fuel choice and diversity are reduced, 10 

### coal is less available to hedge natural gas, and all 11 

### American consumers pay the price. Higher prices are 12 

### not the only threat. With its four building blocks 13 

### approach under the Clean Power Plan, EPA has 14 

### proposed transformational changes that unnecessarily 15 

### risk electric grid reliability. 16 

### ACC is greatly concerned that EPA has 17 

### proposed this ozone rule, in addition to other rules 18 

### that will compromise the provision of such an 19 

### essential service as electricity supply. This is 20 

### irresponsible policy and it's unconscionable 21 

### regulation. EPA's rule espouses the benefits of 22 

### avoided asthma and heart attacks and premature

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### deaths, yet EPA resorts to co-benefits, as it has 2 

### done with earlier regulations, to bolster its case. 3 

### EPA also fails to include the effects of 4 

### other human health aspects of its rules. A group of 5 

### healthcare professionals in Congress wrote EPA 6 

### Administrator Gina McCarthy last year to address 7 

### findings of Senator John Barrasso on the negative 8 

### impacts to public health of costly -- public health 9 

### of costly EPA regulations. These include more 10 

### illnesses, hospital visits and premature deaths. 11 

### They stated EPA must include the net impact of their 12 

### rules on health benefits, including adversely 13 

### affecting unemployment and the cost of increased 14 

### energy. ACC agrees. 15 

### The success of emissions reduction in the 16 

### U.S. is a great environmental achievement. Power 17 

### sector emissions of NOx particulate matter and 18 

### sulfur dioxide taken together have been reduced by 19 

### 89 percent through 2013. Emissions will continue to 20 

### be reduced without this unnecessary regulation. The 21 

### ozone rule should be withdrawn to avoid severe 22 

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### Thank you for your attention. 2 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. Okay, next panel 3 

### is Jalonne White-Newsome and Gary Ewart. Good 4 

### morning. Thank you. 5 

### DR. WHITE-NEWSOME: Good morning. Jalonne 6 

### White-Newsome -- J-a-l-o-n-n-e W-h-i-t-e -- hyphen 7 

### -- N-e-w-s-o-m-e. Very long name. Thank you for 8 

### the opportunity to offer comments today on the 9 

### proposed revision of the ozone National Ambient Air 10 

### Quality Standards. 11 

### My name is Dr. Jalonne White-Newsome, and 12 

### I'm the director of federal policy for WE ACT for 13 

### Environmental Justice, a community-based 14 

### organization in Northern Manhattan, New York that 15 

### works to build healthy communities by making sure 16 

### that communities are a part of the political 17 

### process. 18 

### According to the New York Department of 19 

### Health and Mental Hygiene, in 2012, children age 20 

### zero to four in Harlem visited the emergency room 21 

### 280 times because of asthma. There is no doubt that 22 

### children in Northern Manhattan are suffering 

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### disproportionally from asthma, which is exacerbated 2 

### by the formation of ozone and other social 3 

### stressors. 4 

### So on behalf of the children, the adults 5 

### and the other susceptible populations that are 6 

### subjected to breathing dirty air, WE ACT strongly 7 

### urges the agency to move forward with a more 8 

### stringent eight-hour ozone standard of 60 parts per 9 

### billion. For the past 27 years, through 10 

### community-based research, education and advocacy, we 11 

### have worked to try and improve the health of 12 

### residents in Northern Manhattan by reducing both 13 

### stationary and mobile-source pollution. So if you 14 

### talk to anyone in the neighborhood, what they say is 15 

### what we do is clean air. 16 

### So since Harlem and many other communities 17 

### aren't lacking in the ingredients that form ozone, 18 

### it is extremely important that we use all of the 19 

### regulatory and non-regulatory mechanisms to protect 20 

### the health of some of our most overburdened and 21 

### sensitive populations. In fact, the most recent 22 

### data from an ozone air quality monitor in Northern



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### Manhattan, near City College of New York, show that 2 

### in 2013, the annual daily max eight-hour average 3 

### recorded at this monitor was in fact 62 parts per 4 

### billion, very close to the 60 parts per billion that 5 

### WE ACT and many other health organizations are 6 

### recommending. So this reading further validates the 7 

### need to finalize a standard that will encourage and 8 

### push gently permitted sources to reduce emissions 9 

### even more intentionally, especially in overburdened 10 

### areas. 11 

### I think it's also important to highlight 12 

### some of the language found in Appendix 9A of the 13 

### EPA's regulatory analysis of this rule, which in 14 

### part, quote, "Sought to determine whether 15 

### populations of interest from an EJ perspective have 16 

### a higher representation in areas that exceed the 17 

### proposed range of ozone standard levels, and thus, 18 

### may be more affected by strategies to attain 19 

### alternative standards," end quote. 20 

### And what the results of your analysis 21 

### showed is that quote, "This rule will benefit those 22 

### areas with a higher proportion of minority and

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### low-income residents. It will provide the EPA the 2 

### much needed insight into how and with whom to best 3 

### target efforts to inform communities about the 4 

### proposed rule and otherwise ensure their meaningful 5 

### involvement in the rule-making process."So although 6 

### this rule does not contain the robust EJ analysis 7 

### that we've been asking for in the past, we will hold 8 

### you to this declaration. 9 

### With that said, WE ACT is respectfully 10 

### asking the agency to strongly consider four 11 

### recommendations. The first is to finalize a 12 

### standard of 60 parts per billion for ozone to 13 

### protect the communities that we come from. Members 14 

### of the public health community, as well as the CASAC 15 

### and their review of this plan from 2014, agree that 16 

### the current standard is not protective of human 17 

### health, so let's change it. 18 

### Secondly, incorporate a multi-pollutant 19 

### approach when reviewing primary standards. Again, 20 

### as suggested by CASAC in a 2004 report from the 21 

### National Environmental Justice Advisory Council on 22 

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### consider the potential for disproportionate impacts 2 

### and the cumulative risks from all sources and that 3 

### all should be taken into account to inform proposed 4 

### standards. 5 

### Third, update the Air Quality Index and 6 

### improve risk communication. It is not only 7 

### important that the AQI be revised to properly 8 

### reflect the updated standard, but that risks are 9 

### communicated in ways that can be digested by the 10 

### general public so they know how to act when the air 11 

### is most hazardous to their health, especially for 12 

### sensitive populations. 13 

### And fourth, enhance community engagement. 14 

### Partnerships between regional EPA offices, other 15 

### stakeholders and impacted community partners should 16 

### be involved in the NAAQS state implementation 17 

### planning process. Everybody deserves a seat at the 18 

### table. 19 

### So in closing, we appreciate your work at 20 

### the agency to protect human health through recent 21 

### efforts to reduce emissions of GHGs and curb the 22 

### impacts of our changing climate. So on behalf of WE 

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### ACT and thousands of residents in Northern 2 

### Manhattan, we hope you take seriously our 3 

### recommendations and adhere to the agency's theme, 4 

### and in fact, the administrator's pledge to quote, 5 

### "Keep environmental justice a priority," and quote, 6 

### "Make a visible difference in communities across 7 

### this country." 8 

### So thank you for the opportunity to speak 9 

### to you today. 10 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. 11 

### MR. EWART: Good morning. I'm Gary Ewart, 12 

### director of government relations with the American 13 

### Thoracic Society. Last name E-w-a-r-t. The 14 

### American Thoracic Society is a medical professional 15 

### organization of over 15,000 individuals dedicated to 16 

### the prevention, treatment, diagnosis and cure of 17 

### respiratory diseases, critical care illness and 18 

### sleep disordered breathing. Put that simply, we 19 

### treat patients with lung disease. We also do the 20 

### basic clinical and translational research on what 21 

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### experience and our research, we strongly support a 2 

### more protective national ambient ozone standard of 3 

### 60 parts per billion. 4 

### We've been here before. In 2007, during 5 

### the EPA Administration -- under the Bush 6 

### Administration, we strongly recommended 60 parts per 7 

### billion when that ozone standard was up for 8 

### revision. As a matter of fact, we published an 9 

### editorial, catchly called, "Ozone, a Malady for All 10 

### Ages" -- I'll leave a copy of this editorial -- and 11 

### its walk through the health effects at both young 12 

### ages and older ages for those exposed to ozone, and 13 

### the conclusion of this editorial was that a more 14 

### protective standard of 60 parts per billion needs to 15 

### be established. 16 

### Fast forward to 2010, during the Obama 17 

### Administration first term, the ozone standard was up 18 

### again for review. The American Thoracic Society 19 

### again recommended a stronger, more protective 20 

### standard of 60 parts per billion. And again, we 21 

### published another editorial, this one called "A 22 

### Second Chance," setting a more protective ozone

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### standard. 2 

### Again, we went through and summarized all 3 

### the available evidence and the new evidence that 4 

### happened since the earlier review of the ozone 5 

### standard and found that not only were we more 6 

### confident in our recommendation of the 60 part per 7 

### billion standard, that there was more evidence and 8 

### gave us more specificity and more certainty that 9 

### there were adverse health effects at the existing 10 

### standard and that a more protective standard of 60 11 

### parts per billion need to be established. 12 

### We were very disappointed that EPA chose 13 

### not to move forward with a more protective standard 14 

### at that point. So here we are. Third time's a 15 

### charm hopefully, and again, the American Thoracic 16 

### Society is recommending a more protective standard. 17 

### And again, we have published an editorial. This one 18 

### is in press and will appear in the February issue of 19 

### the "American Journal of Respiratory and Critical 20 

### Care Medicine." I'll share a copy of this with you. 21 

### This one's called "Scientific Evidence Supports 22 

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### So over the last almost 10 years, what has 2 

### changed? In some ways, not very much, and in some 3 

### ways a lot. What has not changed is that our 4 

### recommendation of 60 parts per billion has not 5 

### changed. What has changed is that there is a 6 

### greater availability of evidence that can articulate 7 

### both the health effects and the pathways of those 8 

### health effects of exposure to ozone. 9 

### I'm going to go a little off-script here. 10 

### We've had a number of speakers who have mentioned 11 

### costs, but they seem to be mentioning costs in the 12 

### absence of health effects. A Berman article of 2012 13 

### has estimated that if the EPA were to lower the 14 

### standard to 60 parts per billion there would be 15 

### somewhere between 5,000 and 7,990 deaths prevented 16 

### each year from a more protective standard. Those 17 

### saved lives save costs. Also saved are asthma 18 

### attacks, emergency room visits, hospitalizations, 19 

### missed school days, absenteeism. All of these are 20 

### costs that we are currently paying under the 21 

### existing standard and are benefits that we can reap, 22 

### economic and health benefits that we can reap with a 

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### protective standard. 2 

### So let me conclude and say that the 3 

### evidence is strong and conclusive, consistent. 4 

### There are literally hundreds of studies that 5 

### demonstrate the health effects of ozone exposure at 6 

### levels below the existing standard. We believe that 7 

### the available evidence conclusively supports a 8 

### standard of 60 parts per billion and encourage the 9 

### EPA to act accordingly. Third time's a charm. Hope 10 

### you guys move forward this time. Thank you. 11 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you very much, to both 12 

### of you. The next -- 13 

### MS. WILLIAMS: I'm just going to see what 14



### -- 15 

### MR. POWERS: All right. Yeah, it seemed a 16 

### little quiet there. Brief moment for technical 17 

### adjustments. 18 

### The next panel is Theodore Fuller and 19 

### Kevin Stewart. 20 

### (Pause) 21 

### DR. FULLER: Good morning. I am honored 22 

### to be with you, EPA, this morning. My name is Dr.



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### Theodore Fuller. I am a child psychologist and a 2 

### member of the Sierra Club for 11 years. And I'm 3 

### here today to give my professional testimony and a 4 

### personal testimony in terms of how smog has impacted 5 

### upon my life, as well -- as well as on the life of 6 

### the children that I see in my practice. 7 

### I -- to begin, many of the children that I 8 

### see come with many kinds of asthma-related 9 

### respiratory illnesses, many of them hereditary, but 10 

### many are also due to environmental conditions that 11 

### they live in. So consequently, they come with these 12 

### illnesses and it impacts in many ways upon their 13 

### development. And I'm just going to speak very 14 

### briefly in terms of what I see in terms of how these 15 

### illnesses impact the psychological development of 16 

### our children. 17 

### Many people have already spoken about some 18 

### of the economic, but I am here today looking at 19 

### basically the psychological impact of these 20 

### illnesses. As I said before, the smog and pollution 21 

### in our environment really complicates these 22 

### illnesses or even starts these illnesses in our

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### children. And I work primarily with children of 2 

### color and about 85 percent -- and many of them have 3 

### Medicaid so they are coming from poor families, 4 

### which also complicates the picture because prior to 5 

### the Affordable Care Act, they did not have the 6 

### appropriate insurance to see their doctors, and many 7 

### of them were victims of even racism in medical 8 

### services. 9 

### For example, they would go to the doctor 10 

### and the doctor would assume that because they're 11 

### black and poor that they can't afford certain kinds 12 

### of treatment that were available to the rich or 13 

### wealthy. So that was another handicap that many of 14 

### my patients and clients have experienced with the 15 

### medical system, which even complicates and worsens 16 

### their development from getting better because of 17 

### smog. 18 

### Now, how has it impacted my life? I was 19 

### thinking as I prepared this report that my whole 20 

### life has been one smog after another. I grew up in 21 

### the deep south, in Birmingham, Alabama, which was in 22 

### the late forties and the early fifties, throughout



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### the fifties, and as you know, Birmingham was the 2 

### Pittsburgh of the South, and at that time, we lived 3 

### in many, many houses, and I can't remember at any 4 

### point where we did not live across the street from a 5 

### factory. 6 

### For years we lived across the street from 7 

### a syrup factory, and then we lived across the street 8 

### from a coal and iron factory. And I remember it 9 

### bellowing clouds in my neighborhood from the smoke 10 

### from these factories, even to the extent that you 11 

### could look out on the cars and see the particles of 12 

### steel and other pollutants on the cars. 13 

### And as a child, I never asked myself 14 

### what's wrong with this picture, because as a child, 15 

### you're sort of ignorance is bliss kind of thing. 16 

### But as I grew older, the picture began -- the puzzle 17 

### began to fit together for me in terms of how I feel 18 

### about clean air because I was exposed all of my life 19 

### to unhealthy air, and I want -- since I work with 20 

### children, I want to make sure that their lives are 21 

### not complicated. 22 

### Fortunately, my life wasn't complicated. 

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### I didn't develop asthma or any other respiratory 2 

### illnesses. My sister did, but she was able to 3 

### survive and she's healthy now because of family 4 

### support, although I do have a history of my 5 

### neighbors -- many of my neighbors, including my mom, 6 

### who passed away related to cancer-related illnesses 7 

### because of the environment. 8 

### So I come today with that background. But 9 

### I want to mention how it has impacted me in my 10 

### profession, because I bring my experience as a 11 

### person in that environment to my practice and 12 

### understand the sensitivities that these people are 13 

### going through and the experience they're going 14 

### through because of the asthma and their exposure to 15 

### the smog, because I was there. 16 

### I see it -- I work with children from 3 to 17 

### 19, and the children that I see from 3 to middle 18 

### school really bring a whole set of different 19 

### symptoms related to asthma and respiratory illnesses 20 

### due sometimes to heredity, but many times due to 21 

### environment. Regardless of which one, if they're in 22 

### an environment that is very poor, they're going to



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### get sick. 2 

### For many of the young children, they come 3 

### with a lot of school absences related to their 4 

### illnesses, and they find themselves in a vicious 5 

### cycle because what they say to me is well, I've been 6 

### absent so many days, what the heck; I'll just breeze 7 

### on out and I won't worry about it because I'll never 8 

### catch up. And they get themselves in a continual 9 

### cycle of school failures because of their illnesses. 10 

### And they can't really get a lot of home-based 11 

### schooling because they're usually so sick that they 12 

### really can't take advantage of that. 13 

### So that's one of the symptoms that I see 14 

### in the younger group, as well as symptoms of poor 15 

### body image, as well as low self-esteem and 16 

### depression. Many of them are because they develop a 17 

### sick body image. They really don't see themselves 18 

### as healthy like their peers, and because of that, 19 

### they frequently feel well, I'm not as good as them; 20 

### something is wrong with me. And because of that, 21 

### they develop low self-esteem and eventually they 22 

### develop depression related to that.

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### I also see this in the children that I 2 

### work with who have Asperger's Disorder, as well as 3 

### children who have obesity. These are some of the 4 

### same symptoms they manifest, but in those 5 

### situations, of course, the biological risks are very 6 

### different. 7 

### MR. POWERS: Dr. Fuller, I'm going to have 8 

### to ask you to try to consolidate here. You're a 9 

### little over time. 10 

### DR. FULLER: I'm sorry. Okay. For the 11 

### older children, the older children come with similar 12 

### kinds of concerns, but their needs, developmental 13 

### needs are different. Frequently, they are in a need 14 

### for identity development, and when they don't have 15 

### that identity development as important in terms of 16 

### how they see themselves in relationship to their 17 

### peers, they feel like outcasts because of this, 18 

### because again, they are sick because of their asthma 19 

### and develop the same patterns, the low-esteem and 20 

### the low body image because of that. 21 

### What's different with the older group is 22 

### many times they -- they will develop social



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### problems. For example, they are victim to getting 2 

### into negative gangs, they are victims to bullying, 3 

### they may become involved in self-destructive 4 

### behaviors, drug experimentation and other behaviors 5 

### that are not good for them. 6 

### So I am here today to ask you to close the 7 

### gap for clean air for our children so that their 8 

### children can also have healthier lives. 9 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you very much. Mr. 10 

### Stewart. 11 

### MR. STEWART: Good morning. Thank you for 12 

### your work. I am Kevin Stewart -- S-t-e-w-a-r-t. I 13 

### serve as director of environmental health for the 14 

### American Lung Association of the Mid-Atlantic. I 15 

### represent not only some five million people in our 16 

### service area who suffer from chronic lung disease, 17 

### but also the millions more who desire to breathe 18 

### clean air and still protect their good health. 19 

### A truly immense body of evidence 20 

### demonstrates that ambient ozone pollution 21 

### significantly harms people's health and that it does 22 

### so at levels commonly found in the United States. 

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### Simply put, ozone smog worsens and causes disease 2 

### and even death for real people. 3 

### Although we acknowledge the Environmental 4 

### Protection Agency for continuing to recognize that 5 

### the current standard level of 75 parts per billion 6 

### is inadequate to protect public health, we 7 

### nevertheless must state, despite the facts that both 8 

### EPA staff experts and CASAC concluded that 9 

### scientific evidence supports a standard within a 10 

### range of 60 to 70 parts per billion and that the 11 

### long-standing position of distinguished air 12 

### pollution researchers and physicians is one of 13 

### agreement, we are disappointed that EPA's newest 14 

### proposal now fails to encompass the strongest 15 

### recommendation of all of those advisors. 16 

### More than seven years ago, as can be found 17 

### in their testimony before you at that time, the 18 

### American Lung Association, the American Thoracic 19 

### Society, and many other organizations, concluded 20 

### that only CASAC's strongest recommendation of 60 21 

### parts per billion for the ozone standard was 22 

### sufficient to provide the margin of safety the law



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### demands. 2 

### With respect to the scientific evidence 3 

### that lower ozone concentrations in contrast to EPA's 4 

### recent statement that this uncertainty reduces 5 

### confidence that ozone standard levels below 65 parts 6 

### per billion will result in additional health 7 

### improvements, we must point out that the agency is 8 

### also on record stating the requirement that primary 9 

### standards include an adequate margin of safety was 10 

### intended to address uncertainties. It was also 11 

### intended to provide a reasonable degree of 12 

### protection against hazards that research has not yet 13 

### identified. 14 

### Therefore, given that over the past 15 

### decades many studies have been done showing 16 

### persistent adverse effects due to ozone exposure in 17 

### even the 40 to 60 parts per billion range, we again 18 

### find, as we did in 2007, that the 60 parts per 19 

### billion level is necessary to secure the 20 

### statutorily-mandated margin of safety for the health 21 

### of the public. Of the 558 counties EPA finds would 22 

### violate a 65 part per billion standard based on the

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### 2011 to '13 concentrations, 87 lie within our region 2 

### and are home to 28 million people, about 72 percent 3 

### of our service area's population. 4 

### While only an additional 14 of our area's 5 

### counties -- where another million people reside -- 6 

### would violate a 60 part per billion standard, we 7 

### must stress two things: Those tallies are based on 8 

### data only from counties that host monitors, and 9 

### there are reasons to suspect that some unmonitored 10 

### counties would violate a 60 part per billion 11 

### standard as well if they had monitors but are not 12 

### counted. 13 

### By 2025, when EPA anticipates that only 14 

### eight counties in our service territory with over 15 

### 4.5 million people would still violate a 65 part per 16 

### billion ozone standard, we remain concerned that 34 17 

### additional counties, home to some 13 million more, a 18 

### third of our population, would continue at that time 19 

### to violate a 60 part per billion standard. 20 

### In our service territory comprising six 21 

### states and the District of Columbia, according to 22 

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### population lives in a city, county or metro area 2 

### earning a failing grade for ozone air pollution. 3 

### This means the populations at risk in our service 4 

### area, and known to be living with elevated ozone 5 

### levels, include at least the following: 13 million 6 

### infants, children, teens under 18, and seniors over 7 

### 64; 3 million with asthma, 1.5 million with COPD, 8 

### and 2 million with heart disease. 9 

### And therefore, the American Lung 10 

### Association of the Mid-Atlantic urges EPA to adopt 11 

### as the primary standard the strongest value 12 

### recommended for consideration by its own expert 13 

### staff and by its own independent advisory panel and 14 

### set the standard for the daily maximum eight-hour 15 

### average ozone concentration at 60 parts per billion. 16 

### Thank you. 17 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you very much. The 18 

### next two speakers are Jim Dougherty and Nancy 19 

### Kruger. Hi Nancy, how are you? Thank you. And we 20 

### have Jim Dougherty? 21 

### SPEAKER: They're getting him. 22 

### MR. POWERS: Okay. He won't lose a spot, 

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### I promise. Nancy, why don't you proceed. 2 

### MS. KRUGER: Okay. Thank you. Good 3 

### morning. I'm Nancy Kruger -- K-r-u-g-e-r -- deputy 4 

### director of NACAA, the National Association of Clean 5 

### Air Agencies, the national non-partisan, non-profit 6 

### association of air pollution control agencies in 41 7 

### states, the District of Columbia, four territories 8 

### and 116 metropolitan areas. 9 

### Thank you for this opportunity to testify 10 

### on EPA's proposed National Ambient Air Quality 11 

### Standards for Ozone. NACAA welcomes this proposal 12 

### to revise the current ozone acts which were 13 

### established in 2008. In particular, NACAA supports 14 

### EPA's use of scientific evidence to establish 15 

### primary ozone NAAQS that protects public health 16 

### based on the agency's assessment that the current 17 

### standard is not adequate to do so. 18 

### The serious threats to public health from 19 

### exposure to ozone are well documented. For example, 20 

### in the integrated science assessment for this NAAQS 21 

### review, EPA concluded, among other things, that 22 

### ozone pollution causes respiratory harm, is likely



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### to cause premature death and adverse cardiovascular 2 

### impacts and may cause damage to the central nervous 3 

### system and reproductive and developmental effects. 4 

### EPA's independent science advisors, who 5 

### comprised the Clean Air Scientific Advisory 6 

### Committee, also believe the primary NAAQS must be 7 

### more protective of public health. As the committee 8 

### stated in its June 2014 letter to EPA on that 9 

### agency's second draft policy assessment, CASAC finds 10 

### scientific justification that current evidence and 11 

### the results of exposure and risk assessment call 12 

### into question the adequacy of the current standard. 13 

### Furthermore, there is clear scientific support for 14 

### the need to revise the standard. CASAC supports the 15 

### scientific rationale presented in the second draft 16 

### PA on these points. CASAC also went on to say that 17 

### it further concludes that there is adequate 18 

### scientific evidence to recommend a range of levels 19 

### for revised primary ozone standard from 70 ppb to 60 20 

### ppb. 21 

### NACAA, therefore, supports EPA's proposed 22 

### revised primary NAAQS within the range of 65 to 70

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### parts per billion, which is at the upper end of the 2 

### science-based range recommended by CASAC. With 3 

### respect to the secondary ozone NAAQS, NACAA is 4 

### continuing to review EPA's proposal, as well as 5 

### CASAC's recommendations, and will provide our 6 

### comments in writing before the deadline. 7 

### On the issue of the Air Quality Index, 8 

### NACAA supports EPA's proposal to revise the AQI at 9 

### the same time it revises -- finalizes the revised 10 

### ozone NAAQS. The AQI is a risk communication tool 11 

### developed by EPA to keep the general public informed 12 

### about its local air quality and to help make 13 

### informed decisions about exposure to air pollutes. 14 

### The effectiveness of the AQI as a public 15 

### health tool will be undermined if EPA undertakes 16 

### regulatory changes to the ozone NAAQS without 17 

### simultaneously revising the AQI. Therefore, we are 18 

### pleased that EPA has proposed to move forward with 19 

### revisions to the NAAQS and the AQI at the same time. 20 

### Finally, while NACAA firmly believes that 21 

### EPA must maintain a strong firewall between standard 22 

### setting issues and implementation issues, we do



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### acknowledge that whatever decisions EPA makes on the 2 

### primary and secondary ozone NAAQS will have a 3 

### profound impact on the work of state and local air 4 

### pollution control agencies. EPA must also recognize 5 

### this and take timely action on several fronts. 6 

### First, EPA should commit to and follow 7 

### through on proposing the implementation rule to 8 

### revise the ozone standards -- or for the revised 9 

### ozone standards at the same time it issues the 10 

### revised standards and issuing the final 11 

### implementation rule within one year of filing its 12 

### proposal. It's imperative that development of the 13 

### implementation rule and any related guidance be done 14 

### in close collaboration with state and local air 15 

### agencies. 16 

### EPA should also work in close partnership 17 

### with state and local air agencies to increase 18 

### efficiencies in the planning process. Second, EPA 19 

### should take timely action to adopt or further 20 

### strengthen federal measures to control a range of 21 

### mission sources. It's extremely important that 22 

### these measures be adopted and implemented in time 

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### for the associated emission reductions to contribute 2 

### to attainment by the specific deadlines. 3 

### Further, EPA should ensure that states are 4 

### able to take credit for federal measures that 5 

### achieve real emission reductions. Finally, in order 6 

### to fulfill the responsibilities to attain more 7 

### protective ozone standards by the prescribed 8 

### deadlines, state and local air agencies will need 9 

### more resources than they currently have. This is 10 

### especially true since many areas of the country will 11 

### face non-attainment status for the first time or 12 

### require additional training and resources to develop 13 

### and implement state plans. 14 

### EPA must assist states and localities in 15 

### this regard and request additional adequate federal 16 

### funding to enable them to successfully fulfill their 17 

### statutory responsibilities and their obligation to 18 

### provide their citizens with clean, healthful air as 19 

### expeditiously as practicable. 20 

### Thank you for this opportunity, and we 21 

### look forward to working with this EPA to ensure this 22 

### rule is promulgated in final form by October 1st.



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### MR. POWERS: Thank you very much. 2 

### MR. DOUGHERTY: Thanks. 3 

### MR. POWERS: Jim Dougherty. Sorry to call 4 

### you when -- 5 

### MR. DOUGHERTY: Sorry for not being here. 6 

### You're running early, I guess you know. 7 

### Jim Dougherty is my name -- 8 

### D-o-u-g-h-e-r-t-y. I'm a resident of Washington and 9 

### I'm a member of the board of the local chapter of 10 

### the Sierra Club, the D.C. chapter. I'm also a 11 

### member of the National Board of Directors. 12 

### Today you'll hear a lot of testimony about 13 

### policy, legal and technical issues. I'd like to 14 

### offer a couple personal perspectives on the proposed 15 

### rule. The first is that of someone who's been a 16 

### practicing environmental lawyer for almost 40 years, 17 

### and here in Washington, and during the course of my 18 

### career, I served more than one stint here at EPA 19 

### headquarters. 20 

### I worked in air enforcement in the 21 

### seventies. I worked in RIC enforcement in the 22 

### eighties. In the nineties, I was a branch chief

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### actually in the Circle Program. And generally, when 2 

### I wasn't working for EPA, I was suing it on behalf 3 

### of the Sierra Club or someone else, so I got to see 4 

### this from both perspectives. 5 

### And if you look at the way EPA has 6 

### implemented its six major statutes that it 7 

### implements, starting with the Air Act in '70 and 8 

### Circle in 1980, there's one compelling observation, 9 

### which is that every implementation step has 10 

### basically been a baby step or a half measure. We've 11 

### gone about it just bit by bit in a very incremental 12 

### way, which I contend is not consistent with the 13 

### mandate of the statute. I mean, the Clean Air Act 14 

### says -- sets standards that are protective of public 15 

### health. 16 

### But if you look at the evolution of the 17 

### NAAQS over 45 years, they set one standard, then 18 

### they lower it, then they lower it. They go -- and 19 

### the same has been true under the other statutes. In 20 

### the Water Act, there are technology-based standards, 21 

### they ratcheted them down. They found loopholes and 22 

### closed them, and Congress, of course, would come



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### back in the '77 amendments, '91 amendments. But 2 

### that's the way it goes. We keep taking these baby 3 

### steps, and what that means is that ultimately, 4 

### American health is not being protected. 5 

### All these -- all these steps indicate that 6 

### what we did before wasn't sufficient, and so we need 7 

### to do more. So we never actually achieved the goal. 8 

### I suggest a time to break the mold. Why don't we 9 

### set a standard that's going to do it. We've 10 

### submitted evidence during your rule-making process 11 

### to establish that 60 parts per billion is the right 12 

### level. I say -- I say go for that. 13 

### The precautionary principle would indicate 14 

### that we get ahead of the problem. Since we don't 15 

### fully understand the risk -- and there are a lot of 16 

### unknowns there -- let's get ahead of it. You won't 17 

### regret it. There's never been a time when we set a 18 

### standard and we went back later and said, oh, you 19 

### know, that was really too strong. We need -- we 20 

### need to weaken that. We've never closed a loophole 21 

### and then said, oh, you know, we really should 22 

### reestablish that loophole, you know. I mean, the 

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### lessons have been compelling, so let's be bold this 2 

### time. 3 

### The other personal perspective I want to 4 

### share is that I live in Southwest Washington right 5 

### near the old waterside mall, and I live four blocks 6 

### away from a coal-fired power plant, and there aren't 7 

### many people in this country who can say they live 8 

### four blocks away from a coal-fired power plant. 9 

### This is a major. 10 

### The funny thing about the Capitol Power 11 

### Plant is that it has short stacks. It burns coal 12 

### all winter, and it has short stacks. So as you 13 

### know, most coal-fired power plants have tall stacks, 14 

### 300, 600, 800 feet. They've got 80-foot stacks over 15 

### there. And while most of the emissions are 16 

### invisible, that's not the case during the winter, 17 

### especially on cold nights. A lot of the emissions 18 

### -- there's a lot of water vapor and so you can see 19 

### the trails. And I can't tell you how many times 20 

### I've been out at night walking my dog and I see the 21 

### emissions come out of those stacks and they just 22 

### curl to the ground just because of the wind or I



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### don't know what. It doesn't go up; it comes down. 2 

### And these are in neighborhoods. There's 3 

### an elementary school two blocks from that power 4 

### plant, downwind. You know, the prevailing winds go 5 

### to the northeast. And so you're talking about real 6 

### human impacts here and I think that underscores the 7 

### importance of setting strong standards for power 8 

### plants. 9 

### This is not a technical debate. This is 10 

### about -- and this is not about me. I'm healthy. I 11 

### can probably hack it. It's about the old people who 12 

### live there. It's about the kids who are attending 13 

### that elementary school. It's about people with 14 

### asthma and other -- other diseases. They're the 15 

### ones whose lives are at stake. So we can't lose 16 

### sight. 17 

### I mean, you're hearing from industry 18 

### lobbyists, environmentalists, but we have to 19 

### remember it's about the people out there and the 20 

### children. So I urge you to be bold in this 21 

### rule-making. That concludes my remarks. Thank you. 22 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you very much. Our

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### next pair is Mary Anne Hitt and Albert Donnay -- 2 

### Donnay. Great. Thank you very much. 3 

### MS. HITT: Hello. My name is Mary Anne 4 

### Hitt, and on behalf of the Sierra Club and our 2.4 5 

### million members and supporters, I want to thank EPA 6 

### for proposing to strengthen the Ambient Air Quality 7 

### Standard for Ozone, otherwise known as smog, and for 8 

### providing us with this opportunity to comment. 9 

### The Sierra Club is calling on EPA, along 10 

### with many of the others here today, to finalize the 11 

### standard of 60 parts per billion because the medical 12 

### science is clear that is the level that's needed to 13 

### protect human health. I am the director of the 14 

### Sierra Club's Beyond Coal Campaign, and I'm also the 15 

### mom of a four-year-old. And as a mom, I count on 16 

### accurate labels to keep my family safe, whether it's 17 

### the expiration date on a milk carton or the SPF on 18 

### my sunscreen. 19 

### The same holds true for EPA's code red and 20 

### orange air alerts, which warn vulnerable people to 21 

### stay indoors when smog levels become dangerous. 22 

### They are considered the gold standard on air quality



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### by news organizations, school boards and other 2 

### community organizations that are tasked with 3 

### informing people about the safety of the air 4 

### outside. 5 

### Unfortunately, EPA's current code red and 6 

### orange air pollution alerts are not giving families 7 

### accurate information about whether or not our air is 8 

### safe to breathe. That's because those alerts are 9 

### based on outdated medical science. You don't have 10 

### to take my word for that. Obviously, you've heard 11 

### the American Lung Association and the American 12 

### Thoracic Society, and lots of others here today 13 

### testified to the same thing. 14 

### As it turns out, it takes a lot less smog 15 

### to threaten your health than scientists previously 16 

### understood. That means that updating our smog 17 

### standards is a matter of life and death, especially 18 

### for our kids. EPA's own medical science advisors 19 

### are clear -- ozone levels of 60 parts per billion 20 

### are dangerous and can trigger life-threatening 21 

### health problems like asthma attacks, but our current 22 

### ozone standard is set much higher at 75 parts per 

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### billion, so even when air alerts give parents the 2 

### all-clear, kids could still be breathing in 3 

### dangerous levels of pollution. 4 

### By relying on alerts that are tied to the 5 

### old -- or I should say current 75 parts per billion 6 

### standard, parents and teachers may be sending 7 

### asthmatic kids outside to play, trusting that the 8 

### air is safe, only to have to rush them to the 9 

### emergency room thanks to dangerous ozone levels that 10 

### aren't picked up by EPA's current alerts. It's time 11 

### to update our ozone standard and protect our 12 

### families. 13 

### As you know, asthma is the number one 14 

### health problem that causes American children to miss 15 

### school, and it costs taxpayers tens of billions of 16 

### dollars each year in missed work and healthcare 17 

### costs. In response to EPA's proposal to update the 18 

### standard, polluters are once again trotting out the 19 

### same tired old arguments that this proposal will be 20 

### too costly, but the reality is, regular Americans 21 

### are the ones paying the cost of smog today through 22 

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### insurance premiums, and the lost opportunities that 2 

### come with illness. 3 

### A 60 parts per billion standard would 4 

### reflect the most accurate medical science on lung 5 

### safety. It would empower communities to make sound 6 

### decisions about the safety of outdoor events like 7 

### sports games, carnivals, fairs, that can expose us 8 

### all to dangerous pollution. Parents and caretakers 9 

### of the elderly will especially benefit since it will 10 

### allow them to better protect their vulnerable loved 11 

### ones. 12 

### We will all breathe easier. I encourage 13 

### you to set an ozone standard of 60 parts per 14 

### billion. The American people shouldn't have to wait 15 

### any longer for action on cleaning up the smog. 16 

### Thank you. 17 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. 18 

### MR. DONNAY: My name is Albert Donnay. 19 

### I'm a consulting toxicologist and environmental 20 

### health engineer. I am here representing myself 21 

### today. No one has paid me for my testimony. 22 

### I want to raise three issues that come to

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### the credibility of the science that is at issue. I 2 

### want to preface by reminding my environmental 3 

### advocacy colleagues that I totally understand why 4 

### they would present to EPA only the evidence that 5 

### supports their position to lower the standard, and I 6 

### understand why industry would present just the other 7 

### side. But I think it's EPA's responsibility -- it 8 

### claims it's its goal to perform a complete weight of 9 

### the evidence, assessment of all the literature, and 10 

### to its credit, its HERO Database now allows us to 11 

### see which literature was considered and which was 12 

### cited, but not yet a tab for which was rejected. 13 

### But simply doing the subtraction, we see that Hero 14 

### considered 1,954 papers published on ozone from 2007 15 

### through 2012. It cited 878, so approximately 50 16 

### percent. That looks reasonable, because it only 17 

### cited and reviewed 10 percent of the CO literature a 18 

### few years ago. But in this same period, PubMed 19 

### lists over 4,200 papers on ozone. That leaves over 20 

### 2,250 that were not even considered in this review, 21 

### or 54 percent of the total. 22 

### I put to you that the CASAC and EPA staff



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### and everybody else in this room cannot make an 2 

### informed judgment as to the weight of the evidence 3 

### on the ozone literature if we only have a review of 4 

### half of it, and we don't know why EPA threw out the 5 

### other half, if it even thought about it. 6 

### The evidence is not conclusive. It's 7 

### equivocal. And that brings me to my second point -- 8 

### EPA's literature review in -- includes only four 9 

### epidemiology studies that reported protective 10 

### effects from increasing levels of ozone. By this I 11 

### mean the well-observed observation on every 12 

### continent and every country that's looked. But 13 

### ozone is highest in the summer when asthma rates of 14 

### exacerbation are lowest, and when asthma is highest 15 

### in the winter, ozone is lowest. 16 

### There are over 100 such studies in the 17 

### literature that have found protective effects for 18 

### ozone while other pollutants in the multi-pollutant 19 

### model showed adverse effects. The latter has even 20 

### been found in the famous Harvard Six Cities Study, 21 

### and my testimony includes a graph from that study 22 

### showing they found no dose response effect in the 

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### range of 20 to 28 ppb across their cities and the 2 

### cities with the highest levels of ozone had the 3 

### lowest mortality. 4 

### So EPA needs to consider that the possible 5 

### explanation is that ozone may in fact be protective 6 

### for some conditions. Another possibility is that 7 

### humans have evolved mechanisms to protect us from 8 

### high exposure but not from low exposure. 9 

### Finally, I want to address the issue of 10 

### the size of the change in the standard that's now 11 

### being considered. From 75 to 60 is at most a 20 12 

### percent increase. At the small end, it might be a 13 

### 10 percent decrease. You're dancing on the head of 14 

### a pin. It's physiologically irrelevant because the 15 

### total absorbed dose is repeatedly stated throughout 16 

### the ISA and correctly, the total absorbed dose is 17 

### the product of the concentration in air, the time to 18 

### which you're exposed, and one other variable that 19 

### EPA cannot regulate, which is your minute 20 

### ventilation, how much you breathe per minute. 21 

### EPA recognizes that this can increase over 22 

### 500 percent during heavy work and exercise, and



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### compared to this natural variation, EPA's reduction 2 

### will have no discernable effect even if it's 3 

### achieved. It's like trying to reduce the risk of 4 

### drinking beer by lowering the allowable 5 

### concentration of alcohol from 7.5 to 6.5. This will 6 

### not protect binge drinkers, just as the proposed 7 

### change in the ozone standard will not protect those 8 

### who exercise heavily. 9 

### What matters to human health is not just 10 

### the allowable concentration, but how much air people 11 

### inhale per hour. And again, I stress EPA cannot 12 

### regulate this. To protect athletes, EPA needs to 13 

### lower the standard by an order of magnitude to 0.6 14 

### to 0.7. This is akin to non-alcoholic beer, which 15 

### can be consumed in any quantity without risk of 16 

### getting drunk. And similarly, athletes need to know 17 

### that they can breathe as much air as they like 18 

### without adverse effects of ozone. If they really 19 

### occur at 60 or 70, the standard needs to be ten-fold 20 

### lower to protect those who are breathing heavily. 21 

### Thank you. I'll leave extra copies 22 

### outside for those who want to look at the pretty

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### pictures. 2 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you very much. Terra 3 

### Pascarosa and Tia Shaderzay (phonetic) -- Shaderzey. 4 

### Sorry if I mispronounce the name. 5 

### MS. PASCAROSA: You did a great job. 6 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. You can have a 7 

### panel of one. That does not double your time. See 8 

### if we can find the other. 9 

### MS. PASCAROSA: No problem. 10 

### MR. POWERS: Go ahead. 11 

### MS. PASCAROSA: Go ahead? 12 

### MR. POWERS: Sure. 13 

### MS. PASCAROSA: All right. Good morning, 14 

### and thank you for allowing us to be here to testify 15 

### this morning. I am Terra Pascarosa, a mother of my 16 

### two-year-old son, Brady, a native of Hampton Roads, 17 

### Virginia, a scientist. 18 

### MR. POWERS: I'm sorry. Could you spell 19 

### your name just for the court reporter? 20 

### MS. PASCAROSA: Sure. So it's Terra -- 21 

### T-e-r-r-a -- and the last name is Pascarosa -- 22 

### P-a-s-c-a-r-o-s-a.



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### MR. POWERS: Thank you. 2 

### MS. PASCAROSA: In addition, I'm a 3 

### scientist, a concerned citizen, an avid outdoor 4 

### enthusiast, and a regional field manager with Moms 5 

### Clean Air Force. Moms Clean Air Force is a 6 

### community of over 400,000 parents, with over 9,000 7 

### of those members residing in Virginia, fighting for 8 

### clean air. 9 

### I am very fortunate and thankful to be 10 

### able to speak to you here today about the National 11 

### Ambient Air Quality Standards for Ozone. I 12 

### respectfully urge you to set the smog standard at 60 13 

### parts per billion instead of the suggested 65 to 70 14 

### parts per billion that you proposed in November. 15 

### The scientific record demonstrates that this level 16 

### would provide the strongest public health 17 

### protections for Americans, and most importantly, for 18 

### our children. 19 

### I live in Virginia Beach, Virginia, and we 20 

### experience more and more high levels of smog every 21 

### year, every month, every day. The capital of 22 

### Virginia -- Richmond -- has the highest asthma rates 

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### in the country. It is ranking number one in 2014, 2 

### as well as 2011 and 2012. These high rates of 3 

### asthma in my home state are unacceptable. We must 4 

### do everything we can to protect our communities from 5 

### high smog levels. 6 

### Smog pollution triggers hundreds of 7 

### thousands of episodes of asthma and other 8 

### respiratory ailments every year. It sends thousands 9 

### of children to emergency rooms and costs Americans 10 

### billions in healthcare costs, low -- lost 11 

### productivity and premature deaths. Nearly one and 12 

### every 10 school children in the United States has 13 

### asthma. Asthma is the number one health issue that 14 

### causes children to miss school. 15 

### Inhaling smog pollution is like getting a 16 

### sunburn on your lungs. I do not want my son, Brady, 17 

### to incur any such thing like sunburn on his precious 18 

### little lungs. That's not fair to Brady. It's not 19 

### fair to any child. I put sunblock on him every day 20 

### when we spend prolonged time outside. I cannot put 21 

### sunblock on his lungs. What I can do is I can check 22 

### the Air Quality Index, the AQI, on a regular basis



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### to ensure that my son is not going to be at risk for 2 

### simply playing at the beach or the playground on a 3 

### given day. 4 

### We miss deceivingly beautiful days 5 

### outside, at the beach, and just in general, because 6 

### of high ozone level days. The problem is that the 7 

### AQI represents the health determination implicit in 8 

### the EPA standard, so if the EPA standard is too lax, 9 

### that, in part, the AQI isn't helping parents or 10 

### children. We rely on this measure to help protect 11 

### our babies, our children, and ourselves. 12 

### Smog levels below 65 parts per billion can 13 

### harm some of the most vulnerable among us, 14 

### potentially people like myself and my child. Our 15 

### national standard needs to reflect higher smog 16 

### standards at 60 parts per billion. Parents, 17 

### communities, and all Americans have a right to know 18 

### the truth, what really needs to protect us. 19 

### Again, I respectfully urge you to set the 20 

### smog standard at 60 parts per billion instead of the 21 

### suggested 65 to 70 parts per billion. We must set a 22 

### standard that protects our children's lungs. Thank

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### you again for the opportunity to testify. 2 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. 3 

### MS. PASCAROSA: Thank you. 4 

### MR. POWERS: Is Ms. Shaderzay here? Okay. 5 

### We'll put her on hold for the moment. Next panel is 6 

### Charles Wesley and Mariana LaFianza. Thank you. 7 

### Mr. Wesley? Okay. Please proceed. 8 

### MS. LAFIANZA: Good morning. My name is 9 

### Mariana LaFianza. Do you want me to spell that for 10 

### you? M-a-r-i-a-n-a L-a-F-i-a-n-z-a. I am a student 11 

### at GW and I want to share my personal experience 12 

### with you today. 13 

### I live in the Greater Los Angeles area, an 14 

### area of the country that has topped the American 15 

### Lung Association's list of most polluted cities by 16 

### ozone. Exposure to smog is linked to chronic 17 

### asthma. People with pre-existing conditions are at 18 

### an increased rate -- risk to pollutants because they 19 

### cannot handle the reduction in lung function or the 20 

### increase in respiratory symptoms. 21 

### I saw the effects of ozone pollution every 22 

### day growing up. My little brother, Joshua, suffered



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### from severe asthma as a child. I remember sitting 2 

### on the bathroom floor with him as he struggled for 3 

### breath while looking at me with panicked eyes asking 4 

### for help that I could not give him. There were many 5 

### days that he was forced to stay indoors instead of 6 

### playing outside with his friends at recess or going 7 

### to baseball practice to avoid triggering an attack. 8 

### There were other days that he did not make it to 9 

### school at all. 10 

### Asthma is the number one health -- 11 

### health-related reason an American child misses 12 

### school. Kids should not be kept from their 13 

### education, exercise or being with their friends by 14 

### such a preventable cause as ozone emissions. 15 

### I urge the EPA to adopt a standard of 60 16 

### parts per billion. This standard could greatly 17 

### contribute to the reduction of up to 150,000 asthma 18 

### attacks. That's 150,000 times that a child could 19 

### play outside, 150,000 potential hospital visits 20 

### avoided, and 150,000 times a child is not afraid 21 

### because he or she can't breathe. 22 

### Of course, children with asthma are not 

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### the only ones impacted by inhaling ozone. Such air 2 

### pollution is unhealthy for everyone to breathe and 3 

### can lead to lasting harm in every individual. We 4 

### need to work to limit air pollution in order to 5 

### protect everyone's health. Adopting the standard of 6 

### 60 parts per billion on ozone is an important step 7 

### in curbing emissions and protecting the health of 8 

### the general population. I hope that with these 9 

### standards in place, the childhoods of future kids 10 

### are not so heavily shaped by ozone and that people 11 

### will be able to look forward to a healthier future. 12 

### Thank you. 13 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. Mr. Wesley? Did 14 

### we find Mr. Wesley? Okay. The next panel is Kathy 15 

### Robertson and Patrick McKinney. 16 

### MS. ROBERTSON: Thank you for the chance 17 

### to testify today regarding smog pollution. My name 18 

### is Kathleen Robertson and I currently reside in 19 

### Washington, D.C. Living in D.C., with hot summer 20 

### temperatures and heat island effect, smog pollution 21 

### is something we don't often realize is present. We 22 

### take clean air for granted until the effects of poor



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### air quality ripple through our health and wellbeing. 2 

### I am an avid hiker and walker, and I 3 

### appreciate being able to take deep, cleansing 4 

### breaths of clean air. I grew up in Newark, New 5 

### Jersey, where smog pollution also played a part in 6 

### the health and wellbeing of my family. My father 7 

### worked at a coal-fired power plant, one of many that 8 

### emit pollution of all varieties, including smog, and 9 

### now suffers from health-related issues. 10 

### My sister suffers from asthma, a problem 11 

### that not only effects her and her family, but her 12 

### employer, a public school system, and her students. 13 

### She misses work more often than usual due to her 14 

### asthma and asthma-related diseases. There is a 15 

### ripple effect to asthma that isn't necessarily 16 

### apparent in all the statistics. Her struggle to 17 

### breathe impacts her ability to live a more active 18 

### life, leading to other health issues. 19 

### It would seem in a country so vast and 20 

### beautiful as our own the simple act of breathing 21 

### shouldn't be an issue. The Clean Air Act is 22 

### critical to making sure that every breath we take is

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### safe. It would be in the best interest of Americans 2 

### if the ozone standard was lowered from 75 parts per 3 

### billion to 65 parts per billion as recommended, and 4 

### even better, as the Sierra Club recommends, to 5 

### reduce it to 60 parts per billion. 6 

### Smog pollution is disruptive to our 7 

### economy as more and more children are affected. 8 

### This in turn impacts parents and their work 9 

### schedules. When children are sick as a result of 10 

### asthma, their parents need to miss work or work less 11 

### productively while attending to their children's 12 

### needs. As children need more attention, their 13 

### parents suffer through stress. Asthma curtails 14 

### exercise, adding to the obesity crisis in this 15 

### country. Being able to breathe clean air is 16 

### essential for children to play outdoors safely, the 17 

### minimum we should expect in this country. 18 

### Dirty air impacts everyone, not just 19 

### children and their parents. Any person seeking to 20 

### enjoy the outdoors is affected. In a world that 21 

### needs more contact with nature, it's unfortunate 22 

### that in some areas nature is not its friend. Dirty



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### air makes hiking, walking or simply sitting outside 2 

### not merely unpleasant, but unhealthy. No one should 3 

### risk their health just by walking outside for 4 

### exercise or to run errands. 5 

### Dirty air impacts employees who work in 6 

### areas impacted by smog. These areas are generally 7 

### where businesses and the economy flourishes. We are 8 

### putting our economy at risk and perpetuating dirty 9 

### air that risks the health not just of employees but 10 

### of customers and consumers. How are folks expected 11 

### to get out in the community when the very air they 12 

### breathe is not clean? How fundamental is clean air? 13 

### Thank you for your time and consideration. 14 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. 15 

### MR. MCKINNEY: Thanks for your time. I'm 16 

### from Silver Spring. My name -- 17 

### MR. POWERS: Would you spell your name. 18 

### MR. MCKINNEY: Sorry. It's Patrick 19 

### McKinney. 20 

### MR. POWERS: Spell that last one just for 21 

### the court reporter. 22 

### MR. MCKINNEY: Okay. M-c-K-i-n-n-e-y. 

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### And I'm here today -- this issue is important to me 2 

### because my cousin, Bennett McKinney, is the most 3 

### adorable kid you'll ever meet, and he turned three 4 

### last month and his asthma is preventing him from 5 

### being the active, fun cousin that I've come to know 6 

### him as. 7 

### So this month, Super Bennett, as we now 8 

### call him, was hospitalized for another six days. It 9 

### was his third hospital stay in the last six months, 10 

### and it left us all pretty shaken up. Bennett's dad, 11 

### Russ, is an Army veteran, someone that I've always 12 

### looked up to, and I used to tell my friends stories 13 

### when I was a kid about the exaggerated super human 14 

### strength and bravery that was in my bloodline. 15 

### But our last two visits to see Russ and 16 

### Bennett have been under these unfortunate 17 

### circumstances. I know how strong Russ is, but I can 18 

### tell he spends a lot of time these days fearing for 19 

### the absolute worse, so he's not himself. It's 20 

### obvious that he would do absolutely anything to give 21 

### Bennett some relief, but it's tough to know exactly 22 

### what that would be.



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### So having looked into this, we're struck 2 

### by how much can be done to alleviate asthma 3 

### symptoms. These unacceptable levels of smog 4 

### particulates are not only causing suffering, but as 5 

### it turns out, we're spending more on healthcare to 6 

### treat the effected than it would cost to simply 7 

### improve the air quality with pollution controls. 8 

### I see by the EPA's own estimate, each 9 

### dollar invested in pollution control equipment can 10 

### save $7 in hospital bills. So while I understand 11 

### these are complex matters and regulating is never as 12 

### easy as it should be, I think we've absolutely got 13 

### to do the right thing here. 14 

### And obviously, we're deeply thankful we 15 

### live in a country where Bennett has access to 16 

### high-quality medical care that he needs, because for 17 

### him, it is the difference between life and death. 18 

### But we should be able to say that we live in a 19 

### country that does the only intelligent thing and the 20 

### right thing and keeps kids like Bennett out of the 21 

### hospital in the first place. 22 

### So thank you for your time.

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### MR. POWERS: Thank you very much. 2 

### MR. MCKINNEY: I also forgot to mention 3 

### I've got a picture of him here -- 4 

### MR. POWERS: Nice. 5 

### MR. MCKINNEY: -- from this month. Do you 6 

### want it? 7 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. Sure. You want 8 

### me to put it in the record? 9 

### MR. MCKINNEY: Sure. 10 

### MS. WILLIAMS: Put it in. 11 

### MR. MCKINNEY: Thanks. Appreciate it. 12 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. Next panel is Jim 13 

### Schulman and Brian Willis. 14 

### MS. WILLIAMS: Just tell us who you are 15 

### before you start. 16 

### MR. POWERS: Yeah. Right. 17 

### MR. SCHULMAN: Good morning, EPA leaders 18 

### and staff. My name is Jim Schulman, spelled 19 

### S-c-h-u-l-m-a-n. And actually, I have testimony for 20 

### you. 21 

### MR. POWERS: Great. Thank you. 22 

### MR. SCHULMAN: I am president of A



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### Thousand Friends of Virginia's Future. I am also an 2 

### active member of the D.C. Sierra Club and the 3 

### Chesapeake Sustainable Business Council, the CSBC. 4 

### In general, A Thousand Friends and CSBC are 5 

### supportive of EPA's ongoing efforts to more strictly 6 

### regulate gases that impact health and contribute to 7 

### climate change. 8 

### The Sierra Club would like to see the EPA 9 

### tighten those standards in keeping with current 10 

### medical and agricultural evidence. I speak now 11 

### regarding the ozone standards, not representing any 12 

### organization but as a citizen, mostly because I only 13 

### learned of this opportunity to testify regarding 14 

### smog standards before the CSBC Policy Committee and 15 

### the Thousand Friends Board of Directors were able to 16 

### meet. 17 

### Nevertheless, I feel it's important to 18 

### share with you my thinking on the matter. In the 19 

### summer of the year 2000, I was going door to door in 20 

### the near northeast neighborhood of Washington, D.C., 21 

### just north of where I still live on Capitol Hill, in 22 

### the Capitol Hill neighborhood of Washington, D.C. I 

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### was an elected advisory neighborhood commissioner 2 

### representing approximately 2,000 people in what was 3 

### then the ANC 6A. 4 

### I had become aware of the problem of the 5 

### improper citing and regulation of trash transfer 6 

### stations, including a facility at the former Uline 7 

### Arena at 3rd and M Streets Northeast. I became 8 

### active with a civic group called CATTS -- Citizens 9 

### Against Trash Transfer Stations. We held meetings, 10 

### conducted a citizen summit, and worked with 11 

### attorneys at the Georgetown University Law School 12 

### Environmental Law Clinic to address this 13 

### environmental justice issue. 14 

### During that summer, I helped interview 15 

### dozens of families and individuals about their 16 

### experience living very near the trash transfer 17 

### station where garbage was dumped from packer trucks, 18 

### loaded on to long haul semi-trailers, headed for 19 

### landfills in southern Virginia. 20 

### I became aware of a deeper problem when 21 

### the smells of putrescible waste and heavy truck 22 

### traffic. There were many households with at least



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### one asthmatic child or senior with respiratory 2 

### problems so severe that they could not go outside in 3 

### the summer or even open their windows for fear of 4 

### bringing on the need for an emergency room visit. 5 

### I was heartbroken to meet children who had 6 

### to stay inside every day of their summer vacation to 7 

### protect their health, and some of these families did 8 

### not have the benefit of air conditioning or air 9 

### filters. I observed signs on people's porches in 10 

### large bold lettering informing visitors not to 11 

### smoke. 12 

### Now, I don't know the extent to which it 13 

### may have been soot particles or diesel exhaust or 14 

### ozone that brought with it this horrible health 15 

### sentence of remaining indoors for all of June, July 16 

### and August in Washington, D.C., but I do know that 17 

### these people reported not suffering anywhere near as 18 

### much the rest of the year, and from what I know, the 19 

### formation of ground level ozone, hot temperatures 20 

### and sunshine helped to cook it. So I can't help but 21 

### think it was a contributory factor to the health 22 

### issues being described by these folks.

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### The upshot of our efforts with the 2 

### District government was that we won some battles, 3 

### but we lost the war. After a two-year transition 4 

### period, we did get the trash transfer station at 3rd 5 

### and M Streets to shut down, but we were not 6 

### successful in changing the District of Columbia's 7 

### laws for citing or better regulating these 8 

### facilities. That's why I believe it is so important 9 

### for EPA to default the Ambient Air Quality Standards 10 

### towards greater public health. 11 

### There are still people in the District of 12 

### Columbia living too close to transfer stations, and 13 

### nationwide, there are too many people living in the 14 

### air sheds of national gas compressor stations, oil 15 

### refineries, coal and natural gas burn power plants 16 

### and all the other sorts of industrial facilities 17 

### that help make it harder for the young and old among 18 

### us to breathe. 19 

### I am, therefore, in favor of a strong 20 

### standard of 60 parts per billion. I believe that a 21 

### fossil fuel burning which contributes to the 22 

### formation of ground level ozone, including the



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### production and burning of natural gas, if that keeps 2 

### growing along with the efficiency with which it is 3 

### produced, the U.S. will fail to achieve the 4 

### objective of cleaning our air. We need to set an 5 

### air quality standard at a level that protects people 6 

### no matter their health condition, age or where they 7 

### live. 8 

### Thank you for this opportunity to share my 9 

### views. 10 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. Mr. Willis. 11 

### MR. WILLIS: Full disclosure. I'm the 12 

### press secretary with the Sierra Club. Mary Anne 13 

### Hitt and the fellow people with all the high-level 14 

### clean air memorabilia on, they're my friends; 15 

### they're my colleagues. 16 

### I have a very interesting story to tell. 17 

### I'm a D.C. native, which is kind of rare these days. 18 

### I was born in 1985 -- heydey of Marion Barry -- in 19 

### Southeast D.C. Keep heading down Penn across Azusa, 20 

### a right on Branch and Hillcrest. My mother was a 21 

### nurse. My father is a retired Secret Service agent. 22 

### I was one of the lucky ones. I had both 

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### parents that were very loving and worked very hard. 2 

### Me and my brother, first generation college. My -- 3 

### I was put in Boy Scouts to keep me out of trouble, 4 

### because back then, Southeast was very real, very 5 

### real. And I had to read a lot of books. I had to 6 

### be in the Shenandoah Valley often. I had to be 7 

### outside of the city. 8 

### And my brother and I developed asthma. We 9 

### were put into all of these activities basically to 10 

### keep us out of trouble, keep us away from Good Hope 11 

### Road, keep us away from MLK Avenue, especially when 12 

### the street -- street lights came on. And it became 13 

### a very real issue during the school year, whenever 14 

### we went outside to play basketball, whenever we 15 

### would do community service projects after school, 16 

### again, to keep us out of trouble and on the straight 17 

### and narrow. 18 

### We always had to have inhalers, and 19 

### sometimes those simply weren't enough. My father, 20 

### who had to work around 12 to 16 hours overtime, 21 

### because there were freezes happening at the agency 22 

### at the time over at the Secret Service, couldn't



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### take time off, so my mother would have to take time 2 

### off, and that's basically taping -- taking help away 3 

### from people at Washington Hospital Center at the 4 

### time while she was a nurse. She had to take time 5 

### off of work. 6 

### I had to go to Children's Hospital, which 7 

### wasn't that far away from where she worked as well, 8 

### so it was going to one part of the city, then had to 9 

### go all the way back. And I had to have steroids 10 

### pumped into my lungs for 20, 30 minutes or so. Not 11 

### only was it scary when you're young, even as an 12 

### adolescent when you can't breathe. It's like a 13 

### basic function. I still think about it when I stole 14 

### -- stub my toe in the morning, you know, something 15 

### isn't right, is it bleeding? It hurts. 16 

### But when you're a kid and the world is 17 

### still full of fascination, but as well as anxiety 18 

### and it frequently takes your parents to calm that 19 

### anxiety, it really doesn't help that you don't know 20 

### when you go outside whether or not you're going to 21 

### start wheezing or not. It also doesn't help that 22 

### you have the peer pressure to go outside when you're

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### in middle school or you're in elementary school, to 2 

### go outside and have fun with your -- with your 3 

### friends. 4 

### The reason why I'm giving you a background 5 

### story, the reason why I'm -- you know, I'm giving 6 

### you a little bit of local perspective is because all 7 

### of the -- I don't want to say older folks, because 8 

### my grandma always taught me to say everybody's 27 9 

### until they tell you otherwise. But every single 10 

### time they talk about their children, every single 11 

### time they talk about the missed days of school, the 12 

### missed days of work, that was me, that was my 13 

### brother. 14 

### Since leaving school, we've done pretty 15 

### well for ourselves. I'm the press secretary of a 16 

### phenomenal organization. My brother's an accountant 17 

### with Treasury, has a wife. They have a condo out in 18 

### Annandale, et cetera, et cetera. But the good thing 19 

### about growing older is that your parents become a 20 

### lot more honest with you when you were -- things 21 

### that they didn't tell you when you were in high 22 

### school, things they didn't tell you when you were in



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### elementary school because you know that, you know, 2 

### kids bring things up and most of the time they don't 3 

### know what they're talking about. 4 

### So once I got a little bit older and 5 

### really started talking to my aunts and uncles, my 6 

### father -- I'm afraid my mother passed at around 16 7 

### or so -- the main thing that they always talk about 8 

### is the struggles of parenting and of being a good 9 

### parent, especially when we have both of them 10 

### working, both of them saving up for your college, 11 

### you have a mortgage, you have the cars, and stuff 12 

### like that. 13 

### I just want to say, this is one less thing 14 

### that they have to worry about, one less trip, one 15 

### less everything, and especially the difficulties 16 

### that my parents went through raising two boys in my 17 

### part of the city. Not -- sorry, that one less 18 

### thing, it's vitally, vitally important. That's 19 

### better of you on a job application, better 20 

### references, because, as you know, children are 21 

### sometimes seen as a burden, especially when people 22 

### are hiring. It's one less thing that a mom or a dad 

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### has to worry about. 2 

### That's the reason why I decided to speak, 3 

### and Brenna really asked me to. So I want to -- this 4 

### is off the top of my head. I'm afraid I don't have 5 

### anything written. But I was the -- I'm the 6 

### incarnation of the person that he talked to door to 7 

### door when he said, yeah, my kid has asthma. Both of 8 

### my mother's and father -- both my mother and father, 9 

### both their boys, had asthma, and a 60 parts per 10 

### billion standard would go a very long way, 11 

### especially in the Mid-Atlantic region, which is the 12 

### tailpipe of the midwest with all of those factories 13 

### or the manufacturing. It would go a long way. And 14 

### thanks for going door to door. 15 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you very much. The 16 

### next pair is Leslie Fields and Joelle Novey. And 17 

### then after those two, we'll take a five-minute 18 

### break. This is a three-part panel. 19 

### MS. NOVEY: There's three of us. 20 

### MS. FIELDS: Good morning. Thank you so 21 

### much for this opportunity. I'm Leslie Fields. I'm 22 

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### Club here in Washington, D.C., and I also serve on 2 

### the Board of the Children's Environmental Health 3 

### Network. We're also based in Washington, D.C. 4 

### And I'm very proud and pleased to follow 5 

### in my good colleague, Brian, on this issue. And I 6 

### want to thank you for this opportunity to comment on 7 

### the national quality standard for ground-level 8 

### ozone. I urge the EPA to choose the strongest 9 

### standard supported by scientific evidence. 10 

### I have lived and worked in affected 11 

### communities here in D.C., Texas, California and the 12 

### midwest and on the East Coast. And this is such a 13 

### critical issue. People's lives, and mine, as you 14 

### heard all morning and continue to hear today, are 15 

### affected by the standard, and we have to admit that 16 

### this is not the most stringent standard promulgated. 17 

### The Clean Air Act mandates that the 18 

### standard is set based solely on what -- what levels 19 

### protect the public health with an adequate margin of 20 

### safety. The science and what the standard protects 21 

### from though is clear. The case of ozone -- the 22 

### review panel found out the current NAAQS standard

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### for ozone is not protective of human health. As you 2 

### know, the panel determined that the concentrations 3 

### of ozone meeting the current standard still exists 4 

### in association between short-term ozone exposure and 5 

### expected respiratory effects, including respiratory 6 

### symptoms, hospital admissions, emergency department 7 

### visits, inflammation. Such ER visits, as you've 8 

### heard, result in missed school days and work days, 9 

### disrupting people's actual lives, the worry and the 10 

### stress and the financial costs of possibly losing 11 

### your job because you have to be with your kid in the 12 

### hospital. 13 

### There have been many, many, many studies 14 

### of when there are releases by plants -- by 15 

### pollution-causing plants and hospital visits and the 16 

### correlation between parents, a number of parents, a 17 

### number of children in hospital rooms and what 18 

### happened to those communities. 19 

### The panel's findings build on the 20 

### conclusion of the previous case of ozone review 21 

### panels which has been previously included in 2011 22 

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### a standard below 70 parts per billion with great 2 

### health benefits for a 60 parts per billion primary 3 

### ozone standard. 4 

### The EPA mandate with stronger standards 5 

### supported by scientific evidence is particularly 6 

### relevant for communities of color and urban 7 

### communities. Climate change is a threat multiplier 8 

### for these communities. According to a 2011 -- 9 

### science report, climate change in your health, 10 

### rising temperatures, worsening ozone pollution, and 11 

### decided by Drs. Robert Fuller, Beverly Wright, 12 

### environmental justice treaties, the wrong complexion 13 

### for protection -- African Americans, Latinos -- are 14 

### almost three times more likely than whites to die 15 

### from asthma. 16 

### One in 72 percent of African Americans 17 

### live in counties that violate federal air pollution 18 

### standards, while only 58 percent of the white 19 

### population does. One of every four American 20 

### children live in areas that regularly exceed EPA 21 

### ozone standards, and half the pediatric population, 22 

### too many children, live in these areas. More than 

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### 27 million kids under the age of 13 live in areas of 2 

### ozone levels above the EPA standard. More than 61.2 3 

### percent of African American children, 69.2 percent 4 

### of Hispanic kids, and 67 of Asian American kids live 5 

### in areas that exceed the 80 parts per billion ozone 6 

### standard. 7 

### To properly implement environmental 8 

### justice concerns under this rule, EPA must prepare 9 

### an environmental justice analysis of this rule as 10 

### required under Executive Order 12898. In the rule 11 

### itself, it is cited that this EJ analysis is 12 

### contained in Section J, in a separate section of the 13 

### docket. I was not able to access that section of 14 

### the docket, so it's very hard to actually review the 15 

### EJ analysis without being able to have access to it. 16 

### And so I recommend that this portion of the docket 17 

### be available for us, for communities, for the 18 

### private sector, for everyone to review, if indeed 19 

### there has been an EJ analysis. 20 

### EPA has done this before with the 21 

### Definition of Solid Waste Rule, which provided a 22 

### excellent comprehensive EJ analysis, and we believe



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### that there should be such an analysis -- such an 2 

### analysis for each and every rule. The DSW Rule uses 3 

### a six-step approach, and the six steps include 4 

### hazard characterization; identification of 5 

### potentially affected communities, the demographics 6 

### of those communities; identification of other 7 

### factors that affect vulnerability and potentially 8 

### affect the communities; information census; 9 

### assessment of the disproportionate impact; and step 10 

### six, identification of potential for effective and 11 

### mitigation strategies. This analysis really needs 12 

### to be done as a measurement, not as an afterthought, 13 

### but as a central part of the rule-making. 14 

### It's also important to highlight Executive 15 

### Order 13045, which is the Executive Order for the 16 

### Protection of Children from Environmental Health 17 

### Risk and Safety Risk. Again, if it's in the docket, 18 

### it's very hard to find, and that analysis needs to 19 

### be done. We would appreciate this being lifted up 20 

### and centralized as part of this rule-making. And I 21 

### appreciate this opportunity to speak. Thank you 22 

### again.

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### MR. POWERS: Thank you very much. Ms. 2 

### Novey? 3 

### MS. NOVEY: Yes. Through Interfaith Power 4 

### & Light, hundreds of local congregations of all 5 

### religious traditions work together on energy and 6 

### climate issues. 7 

### MR. POWERS: Could you spell your last 8 

### name? 9 

### MS. NOVEY: Yes. Sorry. Joelle Novey -- 10 

### N-o-v-e-y. And I'm here with Ellis. Every 11 

### religious tradition teaches that we must take 12 

### responsibility for the most vulnerable members of 13 

### our society and consider the consequences of any 14 

### action we take on those people, on the least of 15 

### these, on the orphan and the widow. And there's 16 

### strong evidence that dirty air is particularly 17 

### harmful to precisely these vulnerable people. 18 

### Here in D.C., we have one of the nation's 19 

### highest asthma rates, particularly among children. 20 

### Nearly 14,000 children in our nation's capital city 21 

### sometimes struggle to breathe because of our dirty 22 

### air, and we just heard a really vivid story about



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### that. 2 

### A few weeks ago, I became a mother to this 3 

### little guy, and I was so relieved at those first 4 

### moments after he was born when he screamed and I 5 

### knew his lungs were working. I knew he was 6 

### breathing. And since then, I noticed as a new 7 

### mother I'm always checking multiple times a day to 8 

### make sure he's still breathing. 9 

### I listen -- late at night I listen to make 10 

### sure I can hear him breathing. In the car I look in 11 

### the rearview mirror and make sure I can see his 12 

### little chest rising and falling. But even though 13 

### I'm so focused on his breath and the miracle of his 14 

### breath, I can't provide clean air for this very 15 

### vulnerable little person; only you can do that. 16 

### So I'm going to ask today -- and I'll wrap 17 

### up here -- please pass a strong standard of 60 parts 18 

### per billion today so that we as a nation can take 19 

### care, good care of all of our most vulnerable 20 

### people. 21 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. We'll expect to 22 

### hear him testify in the future. 

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### So let me just give people a sense of when 2 

### we come back. We'll take a five-minute break and 3 

### just let people stretch their legs, including the 4 

### panel. Keya Chatterjee and James Washington are the 5 

### first panel when we come back. And I have -- it's a 6 

### quarter past is five minutes from now, six minutes 7 

### from now. 8 

### (A brief recess was taken.) 9 

### MR. POWERS: And our next panel is Keya 10 

### Chatterjee and James Washington. We have James 11 

### Washington. Oh. 12 

### MS. CHATTERJEE: Good morning. Thank you 13 

### for having me. My name is Keya Chatterjee, and I 14 

### came here this morning after dropping my son off for 15 

### -- from school. I have been a mom -- 16 

### MR. POWERS: Can I ask you to spell your 17 

### name? 18 

### MS. CHATTERJEE: Yeah. The first name is 19 

### Keya -- K-e-y-a -- and the last name is Chatterjee 20 

### -- C-h-a-t-t-e-r-j-e-e. 21 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. 22 

### MS. CHATTERJEE: And my more important



### Page 117 1 identity is that I am a mom, and I have been for 2 about four years now. And I know it's very cliche 3 to say it, but being a mom changes you. Before 4 coming a mom -- becoming a mom, I worked at NASA on 5 earth observations. I was trained as an 6 environmental scientist. I understood very, very 7 well the health risks of tropospheric ozone and smog 8 pollution, but it was really only when I was 9 pregnant and walking around Washington, D.C. in the 10 summer of 2010 that I actually felt emotion about 11 it, that I felt anger about it. 12 And the reason is that, you know, it's 13 infuriating that for a very, very long time, 14 politicians have been really in fear of their 15 polluting donors and for that reason, not wanting to 16 clean up the air that I knew my baby was going to 17 have to breathe. And I can remember going to 18 Children's Hospital -- and my son was about six 19 weeks old at the time -- and just looking around the 20 waiting room and it's all babies of people of color. 21 It's all communities of color and babies that simply 22 can't breathe.

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### And I was really lucky, right. My son had 2 

### a very temporary respiratory issue. It was, you 3 

### know, barely worse than a cold. But a lot of people 4 

### in the waiting room were not that lucky. And 5 

### studies bear this out. You've heard this this 6 

### morning many times, but the fact is that, you know, 7 

### African Americans have two times the rates of asthma 8 

### as white children and four -- and are four times as 9 

### likely to die of asthma. 10 

### And that's not something that mothers can 11 

### be calm about, and it's not something that is okay. 12 

### And I think we all know that's not okay. And we 13 

### also know that we have alternatives. We know how to 14 

### make renewable energy of scale. We know how to 15 

### create local jobs in the community while we do it, 16 

### and it's long past time for us to shake off the 17 

### influence of industry and pass a strong smog 18 

### pollution rule that sets the standard no higher than 19 

### 60 parts per billion. 20 

### So my message today is a simple one, which 21 

### is just do it and do it right while you're doing it. 22 

### I think you probably don't want to deal with a bunch



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### of angry moms coming in here all the time. And I 2 

### want to really also thank you for all the work that 3 

### you've put into getting us this far. It's greatly, 4 

### greatly appreciated by all the parents out there in 5 

### this country. So thank you. 6 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. Mr. Washington. 7 

### MR. WASHINGTON: I came here today with 8 

### the Sierra Club of Hampton Roads. My name is James 9 

### Washington. My concern is about the coal does back 10 

### home in Norfolk, Virginia, and a lot of people has 11 

### been getting sick and people have been going to the 12 

### doctor saying something -- something going on with 13 

### their lungs when the coal dust -- when the coal dust 14 

### back at home. 15 

### And my concern is is there any way that 16 

### you all have a solution about the problem? And 17 

### there have been numerous public organizations have 18 

### over 60 ppb as the standard of smog pollution and I 19 

### don't think that the local government is doing 20 

### enough to stop these problems from getting out of 21 

### hand. And my concern is about the -- about the kids 22 

### and the premature births. It's a devastating loss 

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### to the families that have to endure these problems. 2 

### This -- all of a sudden the coal business 3 

### been there since 1885. And you all might be 4 

### familiar with it. I'm not sure if you're all 5 

### familiar with it, but it's just been a problem for 6 

### so many years that they even got comfortable with 7 

### it, but it must -- it must stop. There must be a 8 

### solution to the problem. 9 

### MR. POWERS: Okay. Thank you. I 10 

### appreciate. I don't have a solution for you right 11



### -- 12 

### MR. WASHINGTON: Right. 13 

### MR. POWERS: But to have us reminded of 14 

### it. Thank you. 15 

### MR. WASHINGTON: Yes, sir. Any time. 16 

### MR. POWERS: The next panel is Vernon 17 

### Savage and Gretchen Welfinger. And just to give 18 

### people a heads up, the next panel after them will be 19 

### Carol Whitman and Rob White. 20 

### MR. SAVAGE: Good morning. My name is Ron 21 

### Savage and I've been with the Sierra Club out of 22 

### Norfolk for three years, and I'm here to support



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### among this pollution. And first I'd like to bring 2 

### up, just like Mr. Washington said, I stay close by 3 

### -- Norfolk Southern right in -- a lot of health 4 

### issues that coming up with children and stuff that 5 

### they have to go to the hospital. And let me see. 6 

### And they have most -- greater risk to the 7 

### communities in the one area, and also have a lot of 8 

### health risk with asthma and stuff. 9 

### And that's pretty much all I have. 10 

### MR. POWERS: Okay. Thanks. 11 

### MS. WELFINGER: Hello. Thank you. My 12 

### name's Gretchen Welfinger. I come with the Sierra 13 

### Club, and I'm also a member of the Institute for 14 

### Health and the Environment. I come here today as a 15 

### scientist and educator and advocate and most 16 

### importantly, a concerned citizen. 17 

### The threat of air pollution, especially 18 

### smog, at ozone is a real serious threat to human 19 

### health. There's been countless studies that are 20 

### documented: Respiratory disease, increased asthma, 21 

### cardiovascular disease, more susceptible to 22 

### infections, and this has been documented primarily

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### in urban areas, a lot of times in poor urban areas, 2 

### which is unfortunate. 3 

### In order to prevent this from continuing 4 

### to happen, many steps need to be taken. Enacting a 5 

### 60 ppb policy is key. Changing the way we live, our 6 

### energy resources to more renewable, will save a lot 7 

### of pollutants out there that we don't need. It will 8 

### also provide jobs. We can use our technology to 9 

### find ways to reduce air pollution. 10 

### Right now our children can't even go 11 

### outside and play. Smog can travel for over 60 12 

### miles, so it's not just an urban problem. Kids in 13 

### the country are being exposed to it as well. And 14 

### then when they get sick, not only can they, you 15 

### know, not go outside and play now because they're 16 

### sick, they're just going to get sicker and sicker, 17 

### and what kind of lives are they going to live as 18 

### adults? 19 

### How much is this going to cost in 20 

### healthcare? This is something that's going to be a 21 

### long-term chronic problem and we're going to need to 22 

### be dealing with children with lung diseases that you



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### would see in coal miners if things don't change. 2 

### Wildlife is also threatened. If we lose 3 

### our ecosystems, we're going to be losing our natural 4 

### capital. If we lose our natural capital, that's 5 

### resources we're not going to get back and it's going 6 

### to cost us more money. The most responsible thing 7 

### we can do is limit the amount of smog that we are 8 

### exposed to. Thank you very much. 9 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. Thank you both. 10 

### Carol Whitman and Rob White. 11 

### MS. WHITMAN: Good morning. I'm Carol 12 

### Whitman, representing the National Rural Electric 13 

### Cooperative Association. NRECA is the national 14 

### service organization for more than 900 15 

### not-for-profit rural electric utilities that provide 16 

### electric energy to over 42 million people in 47 17 

### states, or 12 percent of electric customers. 18 

### Kilowatt hour sales by rural electric 19 

### cooperatives account for approximately 11 percent of 20 

### all electric energy sold in the U.S., and NRECA 21 

### members generate approximately 50 percent of the 22 

### electric energy they sell and purchase the remaining 

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### 50 percent from non NRECA members. 2 

### The vast majority of the NRECA members are 3 

### not-for-profit consumer-owned cooperatives. NRECA 4 

### members also include 65 generation and transmission 5 

### cooperatives which generate and transmit power to 6 

### 668 of the 838 distribution co-ops. The G&Ts are 7 

### owned by the distribution co-ops they serve. Both 8 

### distribution and G&T cooperatives were formed to 9 

### provide reliable electric service to their owner 10 

### members at the lowest reasonable cost. 11 

### These activities are especially important 12 

### given the demographics that cooperatives serve. The 13 

### mean average household income among cooperative 14 

### members is 11.5 percent lower than the national 15 

### average, and cooperatives supply power to more than 16 

### 90 percent of the persistent poverty encountered in 17 

### the U.S., which are defined as those counties with 18 

### poverty rates of at least 20 percent over the last 19 

### three decades. 20 

### With that context, EPA's proposal to lower 21 

### the ozone NAAQS would significantly expand the 22 

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### many rural areas into the program without an 2 

### effective means to meet EPA's proposed ambient 3 

### concentrations. Already facing significant economic 4 

### challenges, these rural areas will have an even 5 

### greater burden of attracting and developing business 6 

### if they are deemed non-attainment by EPA. At a 7 

### minimum, they face increased costs associated with 8 

### new emission controls, restrictive and expensive 9 

### permit requirements, and possible limits on new 10 

### business. 11 

### At the lower end of EPA's proposed range 12 

### of consideration, even pristine areas such as 13 

### Yellowstone National Park would be deemed to have 14 

### poor air quality. This doesn't seem realistic. 15 

### NRECA recommends that EPA retain the current 16 

### protective ozone NAAQS, which is set at 75 parts per 17 

### billion. We appreciate that EPA heed the call from 18 

### citizens and businesses, as well as congressional 19 

### Democrats and Republicans, in deciding to accept 20 

### comment on retaining the current standard. 21 

### Through ongoing efforts across many 22 

### industry sectors, including ours, air quality

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### continues to improve. Since 1980, emissions of 2 

### ozone precursors have been cut in half, and the 3 

### ozone concentrations are down by more than a third. 4 

### For their part, NRECA members are proud of the 5 

### progress that they have made in reducing emissions 6 

### of ozone precursors and other NAAQS pollutants. 7 

### As recently as the fall of 2011, the Obama 8 

### Administration halted a similar EPA proposal to 9 

### tighten the ozone NAAQS stating the need to minimize 10 

### regulatory costs and burdens on the economy. At 11 

### that time, the Obama Administration affirmed that 12 

### the current standard issued in 2008 was adequately 13 

### protective of human health and the environment and 14 

### that EPA's proposal was going too far with too 15 

### little benefit. 16 

### That is still the case today. And as Dr. 17 

### Jonathan Samet, former Clean Air Science Advisory 18 

### Committee chair, has acknowledged, the NAAQS have 19 

### been reset at lower and lower levels over recent 20 

### decades to the point where the gap between what is 21 

### considered by EPA as acceptable concentrations of 22 

### ozone and irreducible background levels have



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### dramatically narrowed. In fact, the lower ozone 2 

### concentration ranges being considered in EPA's 3 

### proposal would be at or below the naturally 4 

### occurring ozone levels in many rural areas, 5 

### particularly in the western part of the country. 6 

### How does EPA anticipate that these areas 7 

### could ever achieve attainment when even eliminating 8 

### all anthropogenic emission sources would not ensure 9 

### compliance with the limits being considered at the 10 

### lower end of EPA's proposal and to what benefit? As 11 

### long as the EPA models the health benefits -- health 12 

### effects with linear dose response curve, they will 13 

### most likely be able to find some level of reaction 14 

### to ozone concentrations regardless of how low they 15 

### set the standard, including levels below naturally 16 

### occurring ozone. 17 

### This implies that they have identified no 18 

### threshold below which there is zero risk to human 19 

### health and the environment. Congress never intended 20 

### for EPA to eliminate all the risk but rather to 21 

### provide an ample margin of safety. The elimination 22 

### of all risks is both impossible and not what EPA is 

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### required to achieve. 2 

### Thank you for the opportunity to comment. 3 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you very much. Mr. 4 

### White. 5 

### MR. WHITE: Thank you for the chance to 6 

### speak. My name is Rob White and I'm here -- I'm a 7 

### member of the Sierra Club. I title these comments 8 

### "Don't Struggle with This." The only thing missing 9 

### is the rubber mallet and elevator music. He's 10 

### sitting at the edge of the exam table at an urgent 11 

### care center in Charlottesville, Virginia. There's a 12 

### medical mask at his side. It's 2015. He's middle 13 

### aged now and hasn't had a physical for 20 years, but 14 

### he's worried about a vicious sore throat that has 15 

### lasted for more than a week. With the stethoscope 16 

### at his back, the doctor tells him to breathe. He 17 

### does so, slow and steady. On his second inhale, the 18 

### doctor quickly stops him, catching his eye, saying 19 

### to speed it up, that she has a lot of people out 20 

### there waiting. 21 

### The Old Dominion has always been proud of 22 

### its popular slogan. You know it because you've seen



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### all those hearts and t-shirts and bumper stickers 2 

### and the little red birds on signs up and down her 3 

### highways and bi-ways. Truth be told though, these 4 

### days when most people hear Virginia is for lovers, 5 

### they're not thinking about hand holding and walks on 6 

### the beach. They're thinking about that old standard 7 

### the EPA knows so well -- 55 to stay alive. The 8 

### words are so catchy that even a young and inpatient 9 

### Sammy Hagar had to make a rock and roll song out of 10 

### -- out of it. Do you remember hearing some of the 11 

### words? It was 1984, "One foot on the brake and one 12 

### on the gas, there's too much traffic I can't pass. 13 

### I tried my best illegal move, black and white 14 

### touched my groove." 15 

### Of course, you have to sing it along with 16 

### a guitar and drums. Okay for me hear a song, up to 17 

### date culture news. I'm now active and have been 18 

### poking around on Facebook. I like the service 19 

### because it reminds me of growing up, of that mythic 20 

### mind common to kids and young adults, the one that 21 

### rationally likes and doesn't like, that she's as 22 

### good from bad, right from wrong, us from them. I'll

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### confess. 2 

### I did what any English major from the 3 

### early nineties would do. I tried to friend my 4 

### favorite authors, in my case, Virginia Woolf and 5 

### William Faulkner. The other day, Woolf sent me a 6 

### link. Here's the headline. Stick it to the man 7 

### with 10 Virginia Woolf questions for thinkers. My, 8 

### I went straight to number five, a quote from her 9 

### autobiographical sketches of the past. I noticed 10 

### she was just trying to help me out with some of the 11 

### problems I've been having with the news these days. 12 

### She said, here I come to one of the memoir writer's 13 

### difficulties, one of the reasons why, though I read 14 

### so many, so many are failures. They leave out the 15 

### person to whom things happened. The reason is that 16 

### it is so difficult to describe any human being. 17 

### So they say this is what happened, but 18 

### they do not say what the person was like, to whom it 19 

### happened. Who was I then? Today, here in 20 

### Washington, D.C., you and I are grappling with an 21 

### old and ongoing conversation, one that is part of 22 

### what our leaders do every day, the job of tending to



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### the relationship between a nation's laws and its 2 

### memory. 3 

### When I say 55 to stay alive, you know I'm 4 

### not talking about miles per gallon. I'm talking 5 

### about smog and carbon emissions and the speed with 6 

### which the world scientists tell us that we must 7 

### lower the parts per billion of our carbon emissions. 8 

### Imagine, right now in my mind's eye, it's 9 

### 1976 and I'm at Dr. Kappes' office in Waynesboro, 10 

### Virginia, sitting at the edge of an exam table 11 

### getting ready to have a physical. My mom is at my 12 

### side. I don't know anything about foreign lands, 13 

### about oil embargoes, or a law passed two years 14 

### earlier called the Emergency Highway Conservation 15 

### Act. I can think though, and while the doctor goes 16 

### about his business, I'm having a secret conversation 17 

### with his stethoscope, Mr. Stethoscope and Ms. Rubber 18 

### Mallet. 19 

### At that time, I have no way of knowing 20 

### that it's going to be another 30 years before I can 21 

### even begin to understand the many secrets of my 22 

### body. I ask, what is this delicate thread that goes 

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### between lull and memory, Mr. Stethoscope? He's 2 

### always quick to speak up, says that his job is to 3 

### provide the conditions for my learning. Thank you, 4 

### Mister, I say. Ms. Rubber Mallet's response isn't 5 

### so simple. She knows I have a question and I notice 6 

### she has a kid-sized rubber tomahawk mallet and a lot 7 

### of people waiting. 8 

### What is this delicate thread that binds 9 

### us? She responds to me, don't struggle with this. 10 

### I ask in this town of handshakes and high five, who 11 

### would even want to drive at 55? 12 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. Thank you both 13 

### for your testimony. The next panel is Adrian Shelly 14 

### and Seth Heald. And on deck after them are Peter 15 

### Pagano and Ishmael Buckner. 16 

### MR. SHELLY: Hello. Adrian Shelly here 17 

### from Houston, Texas, representing Air Alliance 18 

### Houston and Earthjustice. I come from a city that 19 

### has never met an ozone standard and from a state 20 

### that denies the science of the health impacts of 21 

### ozone. 22 

### Our first statement from the TCEQ doubting



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### the science of the new ozone standard was released 2 

### within minutes of the rule being proposed. It was 3 

### obviously at the ready. After the TCEQ combed 4 

### through the rule, they identified a couple of items 5 

### that they have made a great to-do about in the 6 

### press, as you guys may or may not be aware. There 7 

### was the study looking at the potential for an 8 

### increase in deaths in Houston as a result of a 9 

### NOx-only reduction approach. I understand that that 10 

### study expresses a low confidence versus many of the 11 

### other studies that are showing higher confidence of 12 

### benefits throughout the nation, including in 13 

### Houston, of mid-range reductions that can be 14 

### achieved with a NOx and VOC approach. 15 

### We would appreciate guidance in Texas 16 

### about how to implement such an approach, although I 17 

### don't have a lot of confidence that TCEQ is looking 18 

### for guidance from the EPA, but many of us are, and 19 

### we need your help. Our state has never enacted a 20 

### pollution law that was not required by the federal 21 

### government. We have not enacted any clean air laws 22 

### that were not -- or regulations rather that were not

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### required in our SIP, and we need your help. The 2 

### Clean Air Science Advisory Committee did find there 3 

### would be benefits of a standard as low as 60 parts 4 

### per billion and research conducted in Houston 5 

### supports that as well. 6 

### I'm going to supplement my comments after 7 

### today with written comments, but I just want to cite 8 

### quickly studies by Kathy Ensor and Raun Loren at 9 

### Rice University showing incremental benefits in the 10 

### 52-70 ppb range. An increase of 20 parts per 11 

### billion in the 52-70 ppb range over three days is 12 

### correlated with an increase in asthma attacks of 13 13 

### percent in Houston. That is 10 percent for one day 14 

### of a 20 ppb increase in the 50 to 70 range, in the 15 

### 70 to 90 range, 45 percent increase in asthma 16 

### attacks for three days of increase at 20 ppb, 21 17 

### percent increase for one day of an increase of 20 18 

### ppb. So there is ample evidence that a standard as 19 

### low as 60 is requisite to protect human health, and 20 

### we do recommend that standard. 21 

### In Houston, we have seen a slack off of 22 

### reduction in precursors in the last couple of years.



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### We have not reduced VOCs in particular in the last 2 

### couple of years, and have little confidence that we 3 

### will continue to do so without a strong standard and 4 

### a new SIP. And so that is what we are asking for 5 

### today, and that is what we need from you. 6 

### Thank you. 7 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. Mr. Heald. 8 

### MR. HEALD: Good morning. My name is Seth 9 

### Heald. I live in Virginia. I'm an active -- 10 

### MR. POWERS: Can you spell your last name 11 

### for the court -- 12 

### MR. HEALD: Last name is spelled 13 

### H-e-a-l-d. 14 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. 15 

### MR. HEALD: I live in Virginia. I'm an 16 

### active volunteer with the Sierra Club and I serve as 17 

### vice chair of the Sierra Club's Virginia chapter. 18 

### I'm also a student in the master of science and 19 

### energy policy and climate program at Johns Hopkins. 20 

### I'm speaking today though as an individual, not on 21 

### behalf of any organization. 22 

### I want to commend the EPA for proposing to 

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### strengthen the nation's ozone pollution standards. 2 

### The agency should follow the recommendations of 3 

### health and science expert professionals. We know 4 

### from the science that the current ozone standard of 5 

### 75 parts per billion is too high to protect the 6 

### public health. To protect our health, we need a 7 

### standard no higher than 60 parts per billion. 8 

### I've lived in Virginia for more than three 9 

### decades. That's long enough to see and breathe the 10 

### harmful effects of ozone pollution as our population 11 

### has grown, traffic has worsened, and more power 12 

### plants and industrial facilities have been built. 13 

### For many years, I biked to work, mostly in 14 

### the summers in Northern Virginia, but I remember 15 

### many times, days when I really couldn't go out 16 

### because of the ozone alerts and the unhealthy 17 

### atmosphere out there, and that's not right. That's 18 

### what we're trying to fix and what we need to fix. 19 

### I retired a year ago from my job in 20 

### Washington, D.C., and I don't bike to work now, but 21 

### I'd still like to be free to ride my bike for 22 

### pleasure or to get around without having to put my



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### health at risk. We know how to improve our air 2 

### quality and to reduce smog, so now is the time to do 3 

### it. 4 

### You're no doubt hearing from those who say 5 

### we can't afford -- cannot afford to do this, that 6 

### it's too expensive, too onerous. I read just a few 7 

### days ago, a former lieutenant governor of Virginia 8 

### had an opinion column in the "Richmond Times 9 

### Dispatch" making that sort of argument. He made the 10 

### shop-warn misguided argument about the supposedly 11 

### overzealous proposed new EPA ozone standards. 12 

### In that column, he didn't once mention 13 

### ozone's harmful and expensive health effects, not 14 

### once, not even in passing, and all the more shocking 15 

### given that Richmond, Virginia is the current asthma 16 

### capital of the United States, according to the 17 

### American Lung Association. Richmond has had that 18 

### dubious distinction several other times in recent 19 

### years. 20 

### Asthma and other illnesses attributable to 21 

### ozone pollution cause premature deaths, untold 22 

### suffering, and they cost our economy huge amounts in

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### healthcare and lost work and lost school. Those who 2 

### say we cannot afford to reduce ozone levels are 3 

### looking out not for ordinary Americans, certainly 4 

### not for children or the elderly and others who are 5 

### the most vulnerable to the health effects, but for 6 

### the polluters and especially the largest polluters 7 

### who have the funds to pay for disseminating 8 

### misinformation about ozone's health effects and the 9 

### economic effects of regulating -- improving 10 

### regulation of it. 11 

### The fact is that when you fairly compare 12 

### all the costs and all the benefits, the analysis 13 

### shows that reducing the ozone standard to 60 parts 14 

### per billion makes economic sense as well as good, 15 

### good health policy. For as long as the Clean Air 16 

### Act has existed there have been naysayers claiming 17 

### that we just can't afford to improve air quality. 18 

### They have been proven wrong every time as the EPA 19 

### has worked for more than 40 years to enforce this 20 

### important law. 21 

### I thank the EPA for proposing to 22 

### strengthen the ozone standards in order to follow



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### the current science on ozone's harmful effects. We 2 

### can do this and we can afford it. Thank you. 3 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you very much. Next 4 

### speakers are Peter Pagano and Ishmael Buckner. And 5 

### on deck are Zachary Jarjoura and Winsome Earle 6 

### Sears. Ishmael. 7 

### MS. SEARS: Winsome Earle Sears? 8 

### MR. POWERS: No. You're the sort of next 9 

### one. Sorry. I was giving people advance -- 10 

### advanced notice. Peter, go ahead. 11 

### MR. PAGANO: Good morning. Thank you for 12 

### the opportunity to speak in the hearing today. I 13 

### appreciate it. My name is Peter Pagano and I am the 14 

### vice president for environment and public policy for 15 

### the American Iron and Steel Institute. 16 

### I'd like to first briefly provide some 17 

### background on the steel industry and some of the 18 

### challenges our member companies are currently 19 

### facing. The steel industry directly employs 150,000 20 

### people in the United States. The institute is an 21 

### association comprised of 19 producer member 22 

### companies, including integrated and electric furnace 

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### steel makers and approximately 125 associate members 2 

### who are suppliers to our customers of the steel 3 

### industry. 4 

### The member companies represent the 5 

### majority of U.S. steel capacity and have operations 6 

### in nearly 40 states. I'll also note steel's the 7 

### most recyclable material on the planet, more than 8 

### all other materials combined. Steel is the engine 9 

### that drives recycling for many consumer goods, as 10 

### can be seen by the 85 percent recycling rate of 11 

### automobiles and 82 percent recycling rate of 12 

### appliances. 13 

### More than one billion tons -- that's b, 14 

### billion -- tons of steel have been recycled by the 15 

### North American industry since 1988, basically over 16 

### the last 25 years or so. The institute member 17 

### companies are doing everything they can to reduce 18 

### their energy usage as well as their environmental 19 

### footprint. 20 

### Since 1990, the domestic steel industry 21 

### has reduced its energy intensity and associated 22 

### greenhouse gas emissions by approximately one-third.



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### Nevertheless, the production of steel is inherently 2 

### energy intensive, as energy is typically 20 percent 3 

### or more of the cost of making a ton of steel. The 4 

### industry consumes substantial amounts of 5 

### electricity, natural gas and coal, quote/unquote, to 6 

### make our products. Maintaining affordable and 7 

### reliable sources of these energy sources are 8 

### critical to the international competitiveness of our 9 

### industry as we deal on the global market. 10 

### Steel producers in America are currently 11 

### under substantial challenges from international 12 

### competitors. The American steel industry continues 13 

### to face the surge in unfairly traded imports from 14 

### multiple countries. Countries like China and Turkey 15 

### continue to disrupt world markets by subsidizing the 16 

### production and exportation of steel by their 17 

### producers. The overall surge in imports has led 18 

### some steel producers to file trade cases on six 19 

### different products and a number of U.S. facilities 20 

### have already been idled and workers have lost their 21 

### jobs. 22 

### Foreign government interventions are

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### creating global overcapacity in steel and a surge of 2 

### steel imports into the U.S., inhibiting the 3 

### industry's ability to recover fully from the recent 4 

### economic downturn. In 2014, finished steel imports 5 

### are estimated to capture a record 28 percent of the 6 

### market. For the steel industry, operating in the 7 

### United States under tight margins with substantial 8 

### subsidized competition from overseas, any new 9 

### policies that raise energy costs and/or require 10 

### additional capital expenditures would threaten our 11 

### competitiveness again in the global market. 12 

### Given the competitive challenges to our 13 

### industry and our workers that I have described, the 14 

### institute encourages the agency to maintain the 15 

### current standard of 75 parts per billion. We also 16 

### think common sense would dictate retaining the 2008 17 

### standard since it has not been fully implemented and 18 

### the benefits of that action have yet to be 19 

### completely realized. 20 

### In regards to the request for comments by 21 

### the agency about setting the standard at 60, I'll 22 

### just note that a standard that low is approaching



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### background levels in some portions of the country, 2 

### therefore, from a practical standpoint, it may not 3 

### be possible to reach attainment in those -- in those 4 

### areas with a standard that low. 5 

### Again, thank you for the opportunity to 6 

### participate today and I look forward to submitting 7 

### written comments as well for the record. 8 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you very much. 9 

### Ishmael. 10 

### MR. BUCKNER: Sorry I wasn't in here. I 11 

### thought I was going at 4:30 and then someone came 12 

### and got me. 13 

### MR. POWERS: Sorry about that. We keep 14 

### people on their toes. Thanks for coming in. 15 

### MR. BUCKNER: But yeah. My name is 16 

### Ishmael Buckner. I am a resident of P.G. County, 17 

### Maryland. I was born in D.C. I work in Northern 18 

### Virginia. And I think from any conversation around 19 

### the smog rule and around lowering the standard, 20 

### hopefully to 60 parts per billion, needs to be 21 

### centered around public health and who's most 22 

### adversely affected by the rule. 

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### I think the people who are most adversely 2 

### affected by the rule are the communities that, you 3 

### know, bear the brunt of asthma, the communities that 4 

### are the ones that can't go outside when the air 5 

### quality days are bad, the -- you know, the folks who 6 

### have to contemplate whether or not their kid's going 7 

### to be playing baseball or football, or maybe they 8 

### want to try an indoor sport this season because they 9 

### don't want their children outside, and the idea that 10 

### people are actually having those conversations at 11 

### home and on Sunday and when they're over at their 12 

### friends' houses. They're like, I don't know if I 13 

### want him outside because his asthma is real bad. 14 

### The idea that the federal government could 15 

### be doing something very simple to address that and 16 

### they're not is problematic. It's problematic for 17 

### the folks who deal with it. It's problematic for 18 

### the ER and the rooms that have kids coming in for 19 

### asthma that could not have them coming in for that, 20 

### that could be dealing with other things that are 21 

### coming into emergency rooms. 22 

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### Tonight I'm supposed to be at a friend's house who 2 

### just moved to the area, just moved to Northern 3 

### Virginia, and she literally has five different 4 

### inhalers. And I was telling her, you know I'm going 5 

### to be going to an EPA hearing on smog, and she was 6 

### like, really, you should talk about me. I have five 7 

### different inhalers. I was like, I will talk about 8 

### you. 9 

### So the idea that -- you know, I think 10 

### there's a lot of arguments for why we shouldn't have 11 

### a better standard. I just want to make sure that 12 

### the people who are most adversely affected are kept 13 

### at the center of this conversation, the communities 14 

### -- Leslie Fields was up here earlier, the 15 

### environmentalist justice director for Sierra Club. 16 

### I think she knows that over 70 percent of African 17 

### Americans live in counties that are already in 18 

### violation of the standard. Nonetheless, it's 19 

### probably going to be more once it goes down, which, 20 

### you know, there's a good and bad part. It's bad 21 

### that that's a reality, but it's good that 22 

### municipalities, once the rule comes out, will start

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### to work on addressing those issues, that states will 2 

### take -- will move that up the ladder of priority. 3 

### Because right now it's not. Right now, for a lot of 4 

### people and a lot of communities, their health 5 

### doesn't factor into the equations. 6 

### Even in D.C., a lot of the work that's 7 

### done by city councilmen and the women, it's more so 8 

### about what developers are cutting checks to their 9 

### campaigns and not necessarily the health of the 10 

### communities that are in D.C. So if I just want to 11 

### make one note for this testimony is that you -- the 12 

### people most adversely affected should be the people 13 

### who are at the center of conversations about 14 

### improving health outcomes, because those are the 15 

### people who are going to gain the most, the people 16 

### who are going to be prospering more, the people who 17 

### are going to have more opportunities, who will spend 18 

### more time in class studying and less time in ERs and 19 

### sitting around worrying about their health. 20 

### Yeah, I think that's all. Thank you. 21 

### MR. POWERS: Okay. Thank you. All right, 22 

### next panel is Zachary Jarjoura and Winsome Earle



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### Sears. And sort of on deck after them are David 2 

### Baron and Claire August. 3 

### MR. JARJOURA: Me first? 4 

### MR. POWERS: I guess so. Higher on my 5 

### card here. 6 

### MR. JARJOURA: All right. Again, I'm Zach 7 

### Jarjoura. I'm a resident of Norfolk, Virginia, and 8 

### thank you -- 9 

### MR. POWERS: Could you spell your last 10 

### name? 11 

### MR. JARJOURA: Yeah. J-a-r-j-o-u-r-a. 12 

### I've prepared some brief comments. Many of them 13 

### will echo the comments that were already made. But 14 

### basically I -- we need a stronger smog rule to 15 

### protect public health. We've seen that documented 16 

### in science, scientific community that a standard of 17 

### 60 ppbs is one that would be a stronger -- a 18 

### stronger rule to protect public health and the 19 

### environment as well. 20 

### I won't go through all the health effects 21 

### because you've already heard a lot of them, but I 22 

### would urge -- urge you all to think about these new 

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### regs holistically, especially when you're 2 

### considering input from industry. All too often, I 3 

### feel like the society is burdened with a lot of the 4 

### external costs from industry, whether it's 5 

### healthcare costs or it's the cost of cleaning up the 6 

### environment. So I just encourage you all to think 7 

### about -- to think about that. 8 

### And I'd also like to reinforce that EPA is 9 

### here to protect people and the environment and not 10 

### -- not the polluters. And that's -- that's all I 11 

### have. Thank you. 12 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. 13 

### MS. SEARS: Good morning. Thank you for 14 

### the opportunity to speak to you today regarding the 15 

### lower -- regarding lowering the current ozone 16 

### standard. For the record, my name is Winsome Earle 17 

### Sears. I'm a small business owner, a veteran of the 18 

### United States Marine Corps, and I've served the 19 

### Commonwealth of Virginia for some years, both as a 20 

### Virginia State Delegate, where I represented some of 21 

### the poorest urban areas in the Commonwealth, with 22 

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### Most of my constituents are black. Most 2 

### felt powerless against their government. And I'm 3 

### currently vice president of the Commonwealth of 4 

### Virginia's State Board of Education. I'm a strong 5 

### proponent of clean air and regulations which protect 6 

### public health. It's a no-brainer. I have asthma, 7 

### as do my daughters, and I'm fully aware of how it 8 

### feels to personally have an asthma attack, and as a 9 

### mother treating a child who's going through an 10 

### attack who has been to the ER many times. 11 

### I have lived and visited in areas 12 

### throughout the United States and other countries 13 

### where ozone levels were higher than the 75 parts per 14 

### billion and in areas where the ozone level has been 15 

### at or near the 75 parts per billion. My lungs can 16 

### feel the difference. However, I also know from 17 

### experience that there are triggers other than the 18 

### quality of the air that have led to my asthma 19 

### attacks. In fact, from the CDC's own website, we 20 

### learn that pets, mold, smoke, chemicals in our every 21 

### day life, even sinus infections, may trigger asthma 22 

### attacks.

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### Now, this doesn't take away from the 2 

### trials of other families whose children and loved 3 

### ones are suffering from respiratory problems. I'm 4 

### sensitive to that fact. What brings me here today 5 

### is to question whether the current standard of 75 6 

### parts per billion needs to be lowered, because from 7 

### personal experience, as well as literature that I've 8 

### read, I believe the current standard is protective 9 

### of public health. 10 

### I don't dispute the fact that living in an 11 

### area where the air is cleaner can have positive 12 

### effect on respiratory problems. However, are the 13 

### good intentions of the so-called smart people such 14 

### that they are using a heavy-handed approach with 15 

### miniscule results? When it comes to setting 16 

### far-reaching public policy, what I carefully 17 

### consider is the science that is being used to 18 

### conclude that the current standard is not protective 19 

### of public health and the science that is promoting 20 

### the EPA to lower the standard to 65 parts per 21 

### billion, or even lower, to 60 parts per billion, a 22 

### policy which would impact Americans across the



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### nation. 2 

### I believe we should keep the current 3 

### standard until all areas have come into compliance 4 

### with the current standard and to give us more time 5 

### to conduct more scientific research that would prove 6 

### the need to lower the current ozone standard. As a 7 

### mother and a small business owner, I'm concerned 8 

### about lowering the standard. You've already heard 9 

### about -- it's been alluded to -- our former 10 

### lieutenant governor, Bill Bolling, has talked about 11 

### the impact of such standards if we were to lower it. 12 

### I own a company which provides appliance 13 

### repair, plumbing and electric business. I have four 14 

### employees and others who work for me from time to 15 

### time as subcontractors. We service the lower 16 

### Northern Virginia area. We rely on our trucks, our 17 

### vehicles to service our customers. Some of the 18 

### vehicles are older. Some are newer. But it could 19 

### become very expensive if lower ozone standards do 20 

### not allow these vehicles to pass tighter emissions 21 

### tests. 22 

### Decisions will have to be made. I may 

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### have to let technicians go because we pulled, I 2 

### don't know, out of the air, a certain standard 3 

### instead of allowing the current standard to 4 

### continue. These are not decisions I want to be 5 

### forced to make. I want to know how the so-called 6 

### smart people thought this whole thing through. Have 7 

### they spoken with small business owners? Is it 8 

### simply merely a philosophical matter for these smart 9 

### people? I'm not alone though. I am only one of the 10 

### 23 million smart -- small business owners across the 11 

### country who could be faced with the difficult 12 

### decision of having to let workers go if this lower 13 

### standard goes into effect. 14 

### During my years of service as a Virginia 15 

### State Delegate, and now on the State Board of 16 

### Education, I have learned that there are many 17 

### factors that must be considered when setting public 18 

### policy, since it could have very far reaching 19 

### effects. In the case of ozone, we should be 20 

### considering not only the health impact from a lower 21 

### standard, but the broader picture, the economic 22 

### impact that the lower standard could have on small



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### businesses and individuals. 2 

### Many people in my community commute to the 3 

### D.C. area. Has the smart crowd considered how 4 

### lowering the current standard could be devastating 5 

### to rural and some already suffering urban areas and 6 

### to commuter families? And really, are the winds of 7 

### the rest of the world going to stop crossing 8 

### America's borders? 9 

### Frankly, I'm sick of the constant world is 10 

### coming to an end panic that we live today. Can the 11 

### government just leave us alone? Can government 12 

### stick to its role and allow us to just live without 13 

### knowing what's best for us? I ask you today to keep 14 

### the current ozone standard and not further introduce 15 

### it. 16 

### My father came to this country with $3.75 17 

### in his pocket. I was born in Jamaica, and I came to 18 

### America at six years of age. I'm a citizen now and 19 

### this country has been very good to me. I have 20 

### watched and listened to ordinary citizens come 21 

### before the board when I was on it to petition their 22 

### government for redress. It's one of the many things

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### that I love about this country, that ordinary folks 2 

### have a say in how our government, our government 3 

### operates. Many of the people I represented did not 4 

### feel that way. They were powerless, in fact, they 5 

### felt, against their government. 6 

### So I thank you again for allowing me to 7 

### present my testimony today. 8 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you very much. Next is 9 

### David Baron and Claire August. And on deck after 10 

### them are Charles Wesley Long and David Smedick. 11 

### MS. COLLINS: Which Claire are you 12 

### calling? 13 

### MS. AUGUST: Which Claire? 14 

### MR. POWERS: Sorry about that. We got 15 

### more -- Claire August. I also have Claire Collins, 16 

### but you're a little further down. 17 

### MS. AUGUST: We're two Claire's. 18 

### MR. POWERS: Exactly. David? 19 

### MR. BARON: Thank you. David Baron -- B, 20 

### as in boy, a-r-o-n, with Earthjustice. I want to 21 

### talk about what the law requires and why that means 22 

### we need a standard of 60 parts per billion to



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### protect us and our kids from this dangerous 2 

### pollutant. 3 

### The Clean Air Act requires that health 4 

### standards like for pollutants like ozone to be 5 

### strong enough to assure the absence of adverse 6 

### health effects to our most vulnerable populations -- 7 

### kids, asthmatics, seniors and those with respiratory 8 

### disease. 9 

### There are now mountains of evidence that 10 

### the current standard of 75 parts per billion flunks 11 

### that test. There are chamber studies showing 12 

### breathing impairments at levels as low as 60 parts 13 

### per billion. There are epidemiological studies 14 

### showing hospitalizations, premature deaths, 15 

### aggravation of asthma, and other adverse health 16 

### effects at ozone levels far below 75. 17 

### Four times in the last eight years EPA's 18 

### independent science advisors have unanimously 19 

### recommended more protective standards than 75. The 20 

### American Lung Association and the American -- 21 

### nations leading medical societies have agreed. So 22 

### there's no question scientifically, medically, that 

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### we need a stronger standard. 2 

### Now, as to the level, the evidence 3 

### strongly supports the standard no higher than 60 4 

### parts per billion. In the last review, EPA's staff 5 

### scientists found that ozone at this level, quote, 6 

### "Is likely to cause adverse effects in sensitive 7 

### groups," closed quote. And that means kids with 8 

### asthma, adults with asthma and people with 9 

### respiratory disease. 10 

### The evidence is even stronger today. We 11 

### have evidence not only from chamber studies of 12 

### breathing impairment; we now have evidence of lung 13 

### inflammation at 60. We have numerous 14 

### epidemiological and panel studies showing adverse 15 

### effects at, close to, and even below 60, including 16 

### premature deaths. And that's why the Lung 17 

### Association and leading medical societies have 18 

### called for a standard of 60 parts per billion. 19 

### Now, I've heard it said by EPA and by some 20 

### other folks here today that the Clean Air Act does 21 

### not require a risk-free standard that issues a zero 22 

### risk. That's not what's at issue here. We're not



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### talking about guessing or extrapolating health 2 

### effects at levels below the current standard. We 3 

### have actual evidence of people suffering harm at 60 4 

### parts per billion and even lower levels. 5 

### And the harm isn't trivial. According to 6 

### EPA's own very conservative estimates, in just a few 7 

### city studies, tens of thousands of more asthmatic 8 

### kids will suffer adverse effects, or estimated to 9 

### suffer adverse effects at 65 and 70 parts per 10 

### billion than at 60. So we're not talking about just 11 

### a few -- a few folks. This is a major public health 12 

### concern. 13 

### Now, EPA's science advisors have also 14 

### repeatedly called for a separate standard to protect 15 

### trees and plants from ozone damage, and EPA's 16 

### proposal to reject that advice violates the Clean 17 

### Air Act and is totally arbitrary. The proposal will 18 

### allow significant damage to trees and leaves over 19 

### the accumulative effect of ozone from during the 20 

### growing season, and EPA was chastised by the Court 21 

### the last time around for failing to adopt a standard 22 

### that was adequate to protect against all of those

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### harms. 2 

### EPA can't ignore that advice from CASAC 3 

### and its science -- and the National Park Service 4 

### this time around. Thank you. 5 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. Claire number 6 

### one. 7 

### MS. AUGUST: Hi. Good morning. My name 8 

### is Claire August. I'm a sophomore at the George 9 

### Washington University, originally from New Jersey, 10 

### and I live here now in the District. 11 

### I want to preface my statement by talking 12 

### about how important public health is and how 13 

### potentially irrelevant economics can be if public 14 

### health is not held up to a certain standard that the 15 

### Environmental Protection Agency is here to protect. 16 

### So I'm the president of our student 17 

### environmental club, Green GW, and I'm here today to 18 

### testify in favor of lowering the acceptable level of 19 

### smog in our air. I'm extremely concerned about this 20 

### issue, having experienced effects of air pollution 21 

### firsthand, and especially as a young adult looking 22 

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### for public health issues resulting from air 2 

### pollution during my generation and that of my 3 

### potential future children and grandchildren. 4 

### Air pollution, as I've learned in my 5 

### geography classes at GW, is one of the biggest 6 

### threats to public health in the United States. 7 

### Smog, in particular, has been linked to inflammation 8 

### of the lungs and leads to an increased risk of 9 

### serious respiratory diseases, such as asthma, 10 

### emphysema and lung cancer. I am incredibly worried 11 

### about the consequences of smog, as I've seen -- 12 

### excuse me. 13 

### I have my own life ahead of me, but I have 14 

### also seen firsthand the devastation caused to 15 

### families as a result of respiratory diseases. My 16 

### grandfather, Peter Tuzzolo (phonetic), passed away 17 

### from -- from lung cancer in 2003. He was a 18 

### scientist and would also be here with me today 19 

### voicing his support for lowering the smog standard 20 

### to 60 parts per billion if he were alive. 21 

### I sympathize with the hundreds of 22 

### thousands of families who suffer every year because 

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### of a loved one diagnosed or passed away from 2 

### respiratory disease, and I hope that the EPA will 3 

### safeguard our health with a stricter regulation 4 

### level in order to reduce the amount of families that 5 

### go through this pain. 6 

### Looking forward to my future and my life 7 

### as a young woman, I hope to one day start a family. 8 

### Exposure to smog while pregnant can cause birth 9 

### defects as serious as -- often fatal. Losing a 10 

### child before birth or having a child with 11 

### debilitating birth defects would be devastating. 12 

### I've had several miscarriages in my family. 13 

### Knowing that the EPA could have reduced 14 

### levels of smog that have caused -- may have caused, 15 

### either result would be heartbreaking. I'm concerned 16 

### for my future child. Will he or she be affected by 17 

### a debilitating illness from birth because I was 18 

### breathing unsafe levels of smog? I'm also concerned 19 

### about another specific consequence of human exposure 20 

### to smog being the increased level of asthma and more 21 

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### As a kid, and still today, I enjoy time 2 

### outside. I've learned team building and 3 

### responsibility and build strong friendships through 4 

### outdoor team sports such as soccer and tennis, and 5 

### today I like to hike and bike as exercise and stress 6 

### relief. We should be rewarded with these benefits 7 

### of outdoor sports and recreation, not coerced to 8 

### risk our health and becoming more vulnerable to 9 

### asthma in the process. 10 

### The number one reason kids call out sick 11 

### from school in the United States is asthma, and in 12 

### addition to it being a health concern, I've tutored 13 

### elementary school children in Camden, New Jersey, 14 

### where the smog levels are certainly very high, and 15 

### seen how getting behind in school can affect them 16 

### academically and emotionally. Kids can't succeed in 17 

### school if they can't go to school. Reducing smog 18 

### levels is crucial for our childrens' future so that 19 

### playing soccer or t-ball in a league outside is 20 

### beneficial for our health, not detrimental to it. 21 

### Finally, I believe the United States 22 

### should follow the example of other countries that

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### have set lower smog pollution limits and seen the 2 

### health benefits that resulted. Canada, Japan and 3 

### Europe all have lowered their smog levels -- smog 4 

### level restrictions and have seen cases of 5 

### respiratory illness decline since doing so. The 6 

### United States, as the most powerful country in the 7 

### world, should be at the forefront of combating 8 

### pollution and protecting our citizens' health on the 9 

### world stage, not in the background. This is the 10 

### country that I am proud to be a citizen of and I'm 11 

### proud to have been born in. 12 

### Today I am here to stand up for my health. 13 

### I'm representing my late grandfather and those who 14 

### suffer from respiratory diseases, and their family 15 

### members. I'm asking the EPA to safeguard the air 16 

### that my and my peers' future children will breathe 17 

### and the air that pregnant women will breathe while 18 

### carrying those children. I ask the EPA to act in 19 

### restricting smog in a way that reflects the current 20 

### science to 60 parts per billion and protects the 21 

### future of my generation and those to come. 22 

### Thank you.



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### MR. POWERS: Thank you very much. Next 2 

### panel is Charles Wesley Long and David Smedick. And 3 

### on deck is Claire Collins and Hunter Derensis. I 4 

### called Charles first. 5 

### MR. LONG: Hi. My name is Charles -- I go 6 

### by Wesley Long. So I'm currently a student of 7 

### government and policy at George Mason University, 8 

### right here in Northern Virginia, and I'm here 9 

### representing the Collegians for a Constructive 10 

### Tomorrow. 11 

### Today I'd just like to point out that 12 

### there's been a lot of -- a lot of rhetoric or 13 

### accusations on both sides about saying that the sky 14 

### is falling, or having a negative outlook on the 15 

### future here. Now, when I first started researching 16 

### this issue, I was surprised to find that the 17 

### statistics here are actually kind of uplifting. I 18 

### mean, I was a little surprised. I was expecting to 19 

### see dreary numbers of smog increasing over time. 20 

### And what I actually found through the EPA's website 21 

### was that over the past decade, and even more over 22 

### the past 30 years, smog levels as measured -- as 

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### measured on the ground, have been steadily 2 

### decreasing. 3 

### In fact, the EPA's website says that 4 

### between 1980 and 19 -- and 2013, there's been a 33 5 

### percent decrease in the national average here. So 6 

### what I see here is a very positive trend, and this 7 

### should be -- this should come as good news to, you 8 

### know, either side of this debate. Clean air is 9 

### something everyone wants, regardless of whether you 10 

### think further regulation will impede economic growth 11 

### or not. 12 

### So what we're seeing here is that even at 13 

### the EPA's current set of 75 parts per billion, what 14 

### we're seeing is a positive trend. So I would argue 15 

### that I don't see the necessity or the immediate 16 

### crisis which is motivating -- pushing even further, 17 

### which could have immediate effects on the economy 18 

### when we're already seeing a positive trend. 19 

### In economics, there's the law of 20 

### diminishing marginal utility. Basically this means 21 

### that there's costs associated with having too much 22 

### of even a good thing. There comes a point where



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### even if having cleaner air benefits people, if the 2 

### costs that it costs in other areas supercedes the 3 

### benefit, it doesn't become worth it, and what I see 4 

### here is a problem that as technology advances, as 5 

### green technology in a really growing vibrant 6 

### innovative sector is developing solutions to these 7 

### problems, regulation is becoming less necessary. 8 

### These problems, essentially, the market is causing 9 

### these problems to be solved on their own. 10 

### So I would argue that the immediate need 11 

### for further EPA regulation is -- will be mitigated 12 

### in time in that the current pain that would be 13 

### caused to the economy not only through massive 14 

### compliance costs, but also through lost revenue in 15 

### the sectors -- I've heard people talk about the 16 

### steel sector. 17 

### There are other sectors of industry -- and 18 

### there's -- I mean, I wasn't actually going to 19 

### mention this, but I've actually -- you know, I'm 20 

### critical of lowering these standards, but I actually 21 

### have suffered from asthma my entire life. I carry 22 

### around a rescue inhaler my entire life. And I

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### realize it's anecdotal, but others who have 2 

### mentioned this have prompted me to just mention it 3 

### in passing. I've had multiple asthma attacks most 4 

### years of my life, and I've never once been able to 5 

### trace any link towards smog or ozone or anything. 6 

### It's always been very, very clear: Pet allergies, 7 

### dandruffs, mold, even exercise, which is -- which 8 

### interesting, when you were mentioning education, 9 

### right, like PE programs, children go out and 10 

### exercise. 11 

### I would say that I don't think it's in 12 

### dispute that people who suffer from asthma can have 13 

### triggers for asthma simply through the act of 14 

### exercising. It's happened to me. It happens to 15 

### other people I know with asthma. When you exercise 16 

### vigorously, there is an increased risk for asthma 17 

### attack regardless of the air conditions. If you 18 

### have better air, it doesn't necessarily diminish 19 

### this fact. 20 

### So yeah, in conclusion, I would just say 21 

### that I am critical as to whether these increased 22 

### regulations would actually have a positive impact.



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### And I'll yield back the remainder of my time. 2 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you very much. 3 

### MR. SMEDICK: My name is David Smedick. 4 

### That's spelled S-m-e-d-i-c-k. And thanks for 5 

### letting me speak today. 6 

### I grew up in Maryland, where currently 7 

### just today, 85 percent of residents live in an area 8 

### of non-attainment with healthy air standards from 9 

### the Clean Air Act. It's a pretty shocking number. 10 

### When I grew up, I played soccer pretty much all the 11 

### time. My parents drove me all over the state to 12 

### games, practices, tournaments. 13 

### During one of my games, when I was really 14 

### young actually, I started feeling a tightness in my 15 

### chest. I had never really felt that before. I 16 

### thought it was just a cramp or something. But it 17 

### only got worse. And pretty soon, my parents were 18 

### actually speeding down the road to the closest 19 

### emergency room because I had my first asthma attack. 20 

### And I'm not afraid to say that I was really 21 

### terrified. I've had many since then, but it was 22 

### just a bit of a traumatic experience when I was 

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### young. 2 

### But I am one of the lucky ones; I'll make 3 

### that clear. I've been able -- as I've grown, I've 4 

### been able to manage my asthma pretty well. I know 5 

### lots of people that haven't and do suffer from the 6 

### bad air quality in Maryland. But, you know, many 7 

### days I don't notice my asthma at all, but I do 8 

### believe that part of that is actually because I just 9 

### moved -- I recently moved away from Maryland and 10 

### have just moved back into -- I lived in areas with 11 

### better air quality. But moving back to Baltimore, 12 

### which is the city that currently has the worse ozone 13 

### designation on the East Coast, I've noticed that my 14 

### breathing is starting to -- has started to struggle 15 

### again when I go out and exercise. 16 

### There are three coal plants just outside 17 

### of Baltimore City and two of the plants don't have a 18 

### state-of-the-art NOx pollution controls. As I think 19 

### a lot of people know, NOx is one of the main 20 

### contributors to ground level ozone. Needless to 21 

### say, with that information of the coal plants right 22 

### outside Baltimore, it's one of the main reasons that



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### Baltimore has the dubious honor of having moderate 2 

### non-attainment for ozone, again, the worst 3 

### designation on the East Coast. 4 

### So personally, I'm thrilled that the EPA 5 

### is looking to strengthen the ozone standard to 6 

### protect our lungs. Doctors, scientists, public 7 

### health officials, they all agree that we need to not 8 

### just seek comment on 60 parts per billion, but we 9 

### need to act on it. We need our air alert system to 10 

### be based on the most up-to-date science, and we need 11 

### to do it for the millions of Americans that suffer 12 

### from respiratory problems. 13 

### To be a little selfish just for a moment, 14 

### we need to do it for Baltimore, in my opinion, where 15 

### the asthma rate for children is under 18. It's 16 

### double the national average. That's a pretty 17 

### frightening situation there. And I'd like to 18 

### challenge the notion that if we wait for areas to 19 

### get in compliance with the current standard, that 20 

### we'll be okay. We shouldn't have to wait for 21 

### healthy air. 22 

### Further delays won't really help anyone.

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### I'm dealing with this problem right now in Maryland, 2 

### where the Department of the Environment is already 3 

### six months overdue in submitting our compliance plan 4 

### for NOx emissions from coal plants to the EPA. And 5 

### on top of being six months overdue, the governor 6 

### just pulled that plan for further review and 7 

### possible revision. So it's just causing more delay, 8 

### more bad air in Baltimore and in Maryland where we 9 

### suffer pretty heavily from this issue. 10 

### So I ask, how do you tell a person with 11 

### asthma that their health is delayed because of 12 

### politics and economics? I'm asking you to send a 13 

### signal to my state that the delay is unacceptable 14 

### and that we need to address the problem. I can't 15 

### count how many times I've been told to listen to 16 

### your doctor. All I'm really asking is for the EPA 17 

### to listen to the doctors and the science. We need 18 

### 60 parts per billion and I'm really urging you to 19 

### act on that. 20 

### So that's all I have. Thank you for the 21 

### opportunity to speak and I appreciate the time. 22 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. Next panel is



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### Claire Collins and Hunter Derensis. And on deck 2 

### after them is Joe Cook and Jessica Greenstein. 3 

### Claire number two. 4 

### MS. COLLINS: Thank you. Thank you for 5 

### the opportunity to testify on the Ozone National 6 

### Ambient Air Quality Standards. My name is Claire 7 

### Collins and I currently serve as a county supervisor 8 

### in Bath County, Virginia. Basically, I'm an elected 9 

### member of the Cedar Creek District, representing the 10 

### Cedar Creek District. 11 

### I am testifying today on the impact lower 12 

### ozone standards has on building healthy and economic 13 

### resilient communities. Before I share my thoughts 14 

### about the potential economic impact of this lower 15 

### ozone standard, I would first like to share my 16 

### thoughts about ozone and the impacts of health. 17 

### I grew up in a military family. We lived 18 

### all over the country and also overseas. My brother, 19 

### who is now 59 years old, suffered with asthma as a 20 

### young child. We moved to different places. He was 21 

### born in Anchorage, Alaska, which was very pristine 22 

### at the time. He suffered from asthma. I remember 

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### going with my parents to the emergency room of 2 

### different hospitals no matter where we lived, even 3 

### in Germany. The asthma, as he grew up and lived 4 

### other places, and newer environments, ended up 5 

### ceasing over time. He now lives in lower, slower 6 

### Delaware. I just thought I would share that, 7 

### because I do know the impact of asthma from a child 8 

### on up. 9 

### I believe that air quality standards based 10 

### on sound science are valuable to ensure that 11 

### reasonable targets are set to protect public health. 12 

### Thus, the first question to be asked is, is the 13 

### current 75 parts per billion standard protective of 14 

### public health? From what I have read, the answer is 15 

### yes, that the current standards are protective of 16 

### public health. Thus, the second question is, what 17 

### is the impact of lowering the standard? 18 

### From a health perspective, of course, 19 

### cleaner clean air would be protective of public 20 

### health. But it begs the question at what cost. And 21 

### if lowering the ozone standard negatively impacts an 22 

### economy, would that result in the negative impacts



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### in other areas of public health and welfare? My 2 

### response is a resounding yes, which is the focus of 3 

### my testimony today. 4 

### In Virginia, local government partners 5 

### with community leaders, businesses and industries 6 

### work to create healthy and resilient communities and 7 

### have worked to meet the current 75 parts per billion 8 

### standard. Currently, six cities and three counties 9 

### located in Northern Virginia are in non-attainment 10 

### areas with the current 75 parts per billion 11 

### standard. It would be prudent on the part of the 12 

### EPA to help these nine communities and others -- 13 

### which we heard Baltimore is one of them -- 14 

### throughout the United States to meet the current 15 

### standard before any change in lowering ozone 16 

### standards. 17 

### Reducing the ozone standards to 65 parts 18 

### per billion could result in approximately half of 19 

### Virginia in non-attainment, and at 60 parts per 20 

### billion, approximately 91 of the 95 counties in 21 

### Virginia could be in non-attainment areas. Bath 22 

### County would continue to be one of the few counties

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### in attainment. We currently are today. We probably 2 

### are the most environmentally sound county in the -- 3 

### not only the Commonwealth of Virginia, but in the 4 

### United States. 5 

### With counties within the region of the 6 

### Shenandoah Valley that surround us, they would end 7 

### up being at 60 parts per billion in non-attainment 8 

### that now are in attainment. To meet lower ozone 9 

### standards, local governments would have to consider 10 

### realignment of service delivery, new fees or taxes, 11 

### and shift emphasis to meet yet another federal 12 

### regulatory requirement, placing an undue financial 13 

### burden on residents and businesses, further ruining 14 

### the local economy at a time that growth and support 15 

### is needed. 16 

### In our -- in our community, we've worked 17 

### hard. We, in 2009, had a 9 percent unemployment 18 

### rate. Today, I'm happy to say, we have a 3.7 19 

### percent unemployment rate. For a rural county in 20 

### Virginia, that is a huge accomplishment. Healthcare 21 

### also is important to our community. Healthcare is 22 

### our number two employer. It's 10 percent of our



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### jobs, so healthcare is very important to our 2 

### community. 3 

### Every economic sector of our community 4 

### will be impacted by the lower ozone standards. With 5 

### less money to spend to retain or create jobs due to 6 

### diverting profit margins to address many lower ozone 7 

### standards, growth and manufacturing, particularly in 8 

### energy intensive sectors -- iron and steel, cement, 9 

### aluminum, pulp and paper and chemicals -- will slow. 10 

### Also, investment in existing businesses, such as gas 11 

### stations, bakeries, printing operations and dry 12 

### cleaners, will halt due to having to invest in new 13 

### equipment instead of growing their business. 14 

### According to Dan Bosch, manager of 15 

### regulatory policy at the National Federation of 16 

### Independent Business, the rules could require small 17 

### business owners to buy and install specific controls 18 

### for emissions. New small businesses may not be able 19 

### to receive required air permits if the area is out 20 

### of attainment. More regulation on industry and 21 

### business minimizes and stunts growth of economy and 22 

### lessens the ability to create healthy and resilient 

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### communities. 2 

### Even consumers will pay more for 3 

### communities to meet lower ozone standards. Owners 4 

### of cars, light-duty trucks, off-road vehicles, 5 

### heavy-duty diesel trucks and vehicles, most likely 6 

### will have to meet stronger and more costly emissions 7 

### requirements, paid by hardworking people trying to 8 

### make a living and raise a family. 9 

### In addition, agriculture, the backbone of 10 

### our healthy food movement, will have increased costs 11 

### in needing to retrofit equipment to comply with 12 

### higher emission requirements, ultimately passing 13 

### costs onto the marketplace, paid for by the 14 

### consumer. The overall ability of being able to 15 

### afford the cost to make lower ozone standards will 16 

### stagnate local economies and stunt business growth. 17 

### No community existing today can afford the 18 

### impact of lower ozone standards or any new standards 19 

### placed on businesses and consumers. Job losses, 20 

### higher cost of living and potentially stricter 21 

### services provided by counties could all negatively 22 

### impact the health and welfare of individuals above



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### and beyond the benefits of cleaner air. Thus, the 2 

### economic impact that the lower standard could have 3 

### on the overall public health and welfare should be 4 

### taken into account. 5 

### Over the past several years, air quality 6 

### has improved and ozone emissions will continue to 7 

### decline without changing the current ozone standards 8 

### because it is the right thing for any community or 9 

### business to do. People living, working and playing 10 

### in communities take pride and seek out pristine 11 

### environmentally friendly areas such as where I 12 

### represent, and encourage individual spark plugs, 13 

### many of them in this room today, who inspire and 14 

### motivate others to address environmental concerns 15 

### without unnecessary regulation. 16 

### One such example is the efforts of an 17 

### industry in our region -- MeadWestvaco -- with 1,200 18 

### employees at it's Covington bleach board paper mill. 19 

### They have an entire environmental department. They 20 

### serve as the linchpin of our region's economy with a 21 

### long commitment to environmental stewardship. 22 

### Having the foresight and corporate capacity in

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### recent years, they invested $285 million for 2 

### construction and operation of an environmentally 3 

### sound bio-met spoiler without requiring further 4 

### regulatory actions. This is an industry -- 5 

### MR. POWERS: I'm going to have to ask you 6 

### -- I can see you're near the end of your script. 7 

### You are over time, so could you just wrap? 8 

### MS. COLLINS: Yes. Businesses all -- and 9 

### industry do this all the time. 10 

### In closing, I respectfully request and 11 

### urge EPA to delay lowering ozone standards and 12 

### further encourage EPA to partner with communities to 13 

### build healthy and resilient communities and address 14 

### those that are currently not meeting the current 15 

### standard. Thank you. 16 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. 17 

### MR. DERENSIS: Hello. My name is Hunter 18 

### Derensis and I'm originally from Pennsylvania, and I 19 

### would like to express my gratitude at being able to 20 

### be here today. 21 

### MR. POWERS: Would you spell your name for 22 

### the reporter.



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### MR. DERENSIS: Derensis -- 2 

### D-e-r-e-n-s-i-s. 3 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. 4 

### MR. DERENSIS: I'm a student at George 5 

### Mason University, representing Collegians for a 6 

### Constructive Tomorrow. I'm here to voice my 7 

### opposition to what many predict may be the most 8 

### expensive regulation in the history of the United 9 

### States. 10 

### It is both sad and frightening that an 11 

### executive agency has the power to enact such 12 

### standards. The economic impact of new ozone 13 

### regulation could be a crippling attack on cumulative 14 

### capital at a time when the American economy is 15 

### already fragile from previous intrusions and 16 

### manipulations by the government. This adjustment is 17 

### not only harmful, but unreachable, as many of the 18 

### states haven't even reached attainment levels from 19 

### the last lowering of the standards. 20 

### Not only do I ask the EPA to reconsider 21 

### its actions; I encourage it to end all arbitrary 22 

### regulations and act as a defender of property 

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### rights, not an aggressor. Thank you. 2 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. I think you 3 

### averaged out okay for the two panels. 4 

### Next speakers are Joe Cook and Jessica 5 

### Greenstein. Mr. Cook? 6 

### MR. COOK: Yeah. My name is Joe Cook, and 7 

### I live in Norfolk, Virginia. I come today on behalf 8 

### of myself and as chairperson of the Chesapeake Bay 9 

### group of the Sierra Club to testify in favor of the 10 

### EPA strengthening the National Air Quality Standard 11 

### for ground-level ozone, also known as smog, to a 12 

### level of 60 parts per billion to protect my health, 13 

### along with millions of other people and Mother 14 

### Earth. 15 

### We humans and our mother can only stand so 16 

### much abuse, so let's get busy and finally stop some 17 

### of it by following the recommendations of countless 18 

### public health experts and the Sierra Club. 19 

### Americans deserve to know if our air is safe or not, 20 

### and we count on the EPA to issue standards that will 21 

### try to protect us. 22 

### Living near a main thoroughfare with a



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### daily traffic volume of 40,000 vehicles, including 2 

### 2,000 diesel-powered trucks serving the port of 3 

### Virginia, I suffer from the exposure to a large dose 4 

### of smog-producing pollutants that adversely affect 5 

### my respiratory health. I'm also a cancer survivor. 6 

### I don't want to have cancer or other respiratory 7 

### problems. Add to that emissions and particulate 8 

### matter from two nearby coal plants, 90,000 pounds of 9 

### coal dust annually from Norfolk Southern's coal 10 

### terminal and other sources of pollutants for daily 11 

### exposure to a toxic soup mixture where I live. So 12 

### as you can see, I, along with millions of other 13 

### people, need some relief. 14 

### As you well know, the EPA's own Clean Air 15 

### Science Advisory Committee expressed concern that 16 

### "Although a level of 70 parts per billion is more 17 

### protective of public health than the current 18 

### standard of 75, it may not meet the statutory 19 

### requirement to protect public health with an 20 

### adequate margin of safety. The recommended lower 21 

### level of 60 ppb would certainly offer more public 22 

### health protection than levels of 70 or 65 and would

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### provide an adequate margin of safety." 2 

### This group of outside scientists wrote to 3 

### EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy. Furthermore, 4 

### remember that the EPA Clean Air Advisory Group first 5 

### recommended 60 to 70 ppb range in 2007, when the 6 

### former administration put industry profits before 7 

### the health and welfare of the people and 8 

### corporations before the health and welfare of the 9 

### communities. 10 

### I remember when the Clean Air Act was 11 

### passed in 1970, industry representatives who are 12 

### here today talking about the sky is going to fall 13 

### and all of our profits are going to suffer and all 14 

### these other kind -- that's the same thing they said 15 

### about the Clean Air Act. It's amazing it never 16 

### happened. It's amazing how well we have done, how 17 

### much healthier we are and how many billions we have 18 

### saved in public -- public health costs and how many 19 

### lives have been saved from dying prematurely. 20 

### Millions of people have suffered and 21 

### thousands have died prematurely as a result of this 22 

### 75 standard, so please don't let that happen again.



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### You don't have to be sued in order to get you to 2 

### address this issue, which -- this was supposed to be 3 

### done in 2012, as you well remember, every four 4 

### years. 5 

### And having smog is like getting sunburn on 6 

### your lungs. The American Lung Association reports 7 

### that breathing in smog pollution often results in 8 

### immediate breathing trouble. Long-term exposure can 9 

### harm our health in countless ways and have life 10 

### threatening and lasting consequences. Exposure to 11 

### smog pollution is linked to chronic asthma and other 12 

### respiratory lung diseases, contrary to what some of 13 

### the people here today who even have asthma have 14 

### testified. 15 

### Also has had consequences for reproductive 16 

### and developmental harm, and as I said, premature 17 

### death. It sends thousands of children to emergency 18 

### rooms each year and costs us billions in healthcare 19 

### costs, lower productivity and premature death, while 20 

### those guilty of blame take no responsibility and are 21 

### not held accountable for the pain and suffering and 22 

### lost quality of life. 

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### Public health and environmental groups 2 

### have lobbied the government for years to reign in 3 

### ozone emissions. The cost of regulation is one of 4 

### the most important health decisions Mr. Obama can 5 

### make while still in office. "Ozone is the most 6 

### pervasive and widespread pollutant in the country," 7 

### said Paul Billings, senior vice president of the 8 

### American Lung Association. William Becker of the 9 

### National Association of Clean Air Agencies said, 10 

### quote, "Ozone is not only killing people, but 11 

### causing tens of millions of people to get sick every 12 

### day." And EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy has said 13 

### herself, "Bringing ozone pollution standards in line 14 

### with the latest science will clean up our air, 15 

### improve access to crucial air quality information, 16 

### and protect those most at risk." 17 

### We do know that the air we breathe in most 18 

### parts of our country today is not safe, so it's up 19 

### to the EPA to use its authority under the Clean Air 20 

### Act and take responsibility to set the maximum level 21 

### of 60 ppb to make it safer. A new bipartisan 22 

### national survey done by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner



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### finds that a vast bipartisan majority of American 2 

### voters support tighter standards from smog-causing 3 

### pollution. Nearly two-thirds of voters favor 4 

### updating standards with stricter limits. Public 5 

### health experts, scientists and the American people 6 

### want safer air, which the 60 standard would give us. 7 

### So I join with my fellow Americans in 8 

### urging the EPA to stop dragging its feet and just do 9 

### it now. Thank you. 10 

### MR. POWERS: Thank you. 11 

### MS. GREENSTEIN: Hello. My name is 12 

### Jessica Greenstein. Thank you for letting me speak 13 

### today. I am an international student from Hong 14 

### Kong, currently completing my final year at American 15 

### University. I am here to testify today because 16 

### there is no such thing as American air. There is 17 

### only one ozone, one atmosphere, and it belongs to 18 

### all of us all over the world. 19 

### Growing up in Hong Kong, I have personally 20 

### experienced the worst of filthy, polluted air. At 21 

### home, we are suffocating from the pollutants in the 22 

### air that are a result of the dollar bills that our

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### politicians and multi-national corporations are so 2 

### incredibly obsessed with. This is not the fault of 3 

### my fellow Hong Kongers. Most of the pollution in 4 

### our air comes from neighboring countries. 5 

### From primary school all throughout high 6 

### school, government officials would frequently send 7 

### our teachers warnings that pollution levels were too 8 

### high for us to go outside. More often than not, we 9 

### were forced to stay indoors for recess. We were 10 

### deprived the opportunity to run outside and play, an 11 

### opportunity that every child deserves to have. As a 12 

### result, part of my childhood was robbed. 13 

### The smog is so bad at home that on most 14 

### days it is difficult to see a couple feet in front 15 

### of you. This has caused many traffic accidents, in 16 

### addition to respiratory illnesses that our 17 

### population faced. The air that we breathe is thick. 18 

### It is dirty and it is disgusting. I fear that my 19 

### future kids will not know what a blue sky looks 20 

### like. The thought of a sky turning from blue to 21 

### green makes that unrealistic, but it is currently 22 

### the reality that we are facing. This is why we need



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### to work together to bring our blue skies back. We 2 

### need to clean up our air now. 3 

### As I already mentioned, there is no such 4 

### thing as American air, but there is such thing as 5 

### American responsibility. It is not only ethical, 6 

### but necessary to reduce the smog pollution standard 7 

### to 60 parts per billion. We, the rest of the world, 8 

### look to Americans as exemplary citizens of the 9 

### world. We look to your governmental policies for 10 

### their high standards. 11 

### If you reduce your pollution standard to a 12 

### safer level, the rest of the world might realize the 13 

### necessity of assessing themselves and hopefully make 14 

### positive changes to ensure their own public and 15 

### environmental health. We look up to you as a 16 

### country, as a nation that acts based on the needs of 17 

### your citizens. 18 

### It has been proven by science that your 19 

### citizens are breathing dirty air. It has been 20 

### proven that your citizens need to breathe clean air 21 

### in order to live healthier lifestyles. So please, 22 

### use your world power for good and set the right 

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### example for the rest of us. Thank you. 2 

### MR. POWERS: That is all of the cards that 3 

### I have, so we're going to break for lunch now, and I 4 

### am actually not sure whether we're starting again at 5 

### 2 or 2:30. 6 

### MS. WILLIAMS: 2:30. 7 

### MR. POWERS: 2:30. 8 

### MS. WILLIAMS: Yes. 9 

### MR. POWERS: We're going to start again at 10 

### 2:30. Give people enough time. 11 

### (Whereupon, at 12:36 p.m., a luncheon 12 

### recess was taken.) 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22



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### A F T E R N O O N S E S S I O N 2 

### (2:13 p.m.) 3 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Good afternoon. My name is 4 

### Jim DeMocker, and I'm the chair of this sessions -- 5 

### this session of today's public hearing. Thanks for 6 

### coming today. Joining me on the panel this 7 

### afternoon is Robin Langdon. 8 

### So I've got a prepared statement, so bear 9 

### with me, please. We're here today to listen to your 10 

### comments on proposed revisions to the National 11 

### Ambient Air Quality Standards for Ozone. EPA 12 

### announced this proposed rule on November 25, 2014, 13 

### and published it in the "Federal Register" on 14 

### December 17, 2014. 15 

### EPA's proposal is based on extensive 16 

### scientific evidence about ozone's effects on public 17 

### health and welfare. The proposed updates will 18 

### improve public health protection, particularly for 19 

### children, the elderly, and people of all ages who 20 

### have lung diseases such as asthma, as well as 21 

### improved public welfare protection, particularly 22 

### related to ozone-sensitive trees and other plants in

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### protected forests and ecosystems such as national 2 

### wilderness areas. 3 

### We've proposed to strengthen both the 4 

### primary ozone standard to protect public health and 5 

### the secondary ozone standard to protect public 6 

### welfare. We're proposing to set the levels of the 7 

### primary and the secondary standards in a range of 8 

### from 65 to 70 parts per billion. These standards 9 

### would be met when the three-year average of the 10 

### annual fourth highest daily maximum eight-hour 11 

### average ozone concentration is at or below the new 12 

### level. 13 

### The proposal would also extend the ozone 14 

### monitoring season for many states and update the Air 15 

### Quality Index to ensure people are informed about 16 

### their air quality. These proposed standards do not 17 

### establish emission control requirements for any 18 

### particular industry. Each state, as needed, will 19 

### determine how to best meet the standards in a way 20 

### that makes the most sense for that area. 21 

### States will have time to develop and 22 

### implement plans to meet revised standards. Existing



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### and proposed federal rules will help the vast 2 

### majority of areas meet the proposed standards by 3 

### 2025. I'd like to thank you for taking time out of 4 

### your day today to join us and share your comments. 5 

### We will accept comments on all aspects of the 6 

### proposal, including on retaining the existing 7 

### standards. 8 

### Before we get started, I'd like to go 9 

### through a few housekeeping items and ground rules 10 

### that will help make today's hearing run smoothly. 11 

### First, please be sure you've checked in at the 12 

### registration desk, even if you are not planning to 13 

### speak today. And if you signed up to speak online 14 

### or by phone but haven't told us that you're here, 15 

### please step out to the registration desk and let the 16 

### EPA staff there know that you've arrived. 17 

### And just as an ad lib, to be clear, 18 

### signing in at the guard desk was required, but that 19 

### is not the same as registering at the speaker desk. 20 

### So if you haven't done the second sign-in and you're 21 

### scheduled to talk, or expected to talk, please check 22 

### in with the EPA staff at the registration desk. 

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### Okay, so here's how today's hearing will 2 

### work. I'll call up speakers in pairs. When your 3 

### name is called, please come to the table at the 4 

### front of the room and remain at the table until both 5 

### speakers have completed their comments. When I call 6 

### on you to speak, please state your name and spell it 7 

### for the court reporter. There she is. 8 

### Your comments will be transcribed and 9 

### included in the official record of comments or 10 

### docket on the proposed rule. Each speaker will have 11 

### five minutes to give comments. We have a light, 12 

### which Robin is going to man here -- take care of -- 13 

### to let you know how much time you have left to 14 

### speak. When the light turns from green to yellow, 15 

### that means you have one minute remaining. When it 16 

### turns red, that's a signal to wrap up your 17 

### testimony. The light will flash red and beep when 18 

### you have spoken for five minutes and it is time to 19 

### stop. Hope we won't get to any beeping red lights 20 

### though. 21 

### When you're finished speaking, please 22 

### remain at the table until the person next to you has



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### completed his or her testimony. We're here to 2 

### listen to you today. However, a panel member may 3 

### ask questions to clarify your comments. I will then 4 

### call up the next pair of speakers and so on. 5 

### If you have a written copy of your 6 

### testimony, please give it to the staff at the 7 

### registration desk before you leave today. We will 8 

### put any written comments submitted today in the 9 

### official docket for the proposed rule. If you have 10 

### additional comments you'd like to make, you can 11 

### submit them in writing until March 17, 2015. 12 

### Instructions for submitting additional written 13 

### comments are available at the materials table near 14 

### the registration desk. 15 

### The hearing will continue until 7:30 p.m. 16 

### today. In addition, we make take occasional short 17 

### breaks during the afternoon as needed. We'll keep 18 

### you posted as the day goes on. If you have any 19 

### questions during the day, please see the staff at 20 

### the registration desk and someone will try to help 21 

### you. 22 

### Finally, I want to ask each of you to

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### please be respectful of everyone who speaks today. 2 

### We have people with a wide variety of views in the 3 

### audience and we want to hear from all of you. So we 4 

### can do that, and to be fair to everyone, we ask that 5 

### everyone listen quietly. Even applause can slow 6 

### things down, and we want to hear from everyone who 7 

### has signed up to speak. 8 

### Thank you again for taking the time today 9 

### to share your comments on EPA's proposed rule, and 10 

### let's get started. Okay. 11 

### So first up, we have -- and I apologize if 12 

### I mispronounce any names. What really matters is, 13 

### like I said, spelling it for the -- for our court 14 

### reporter -- Paul Cicio -- C-i-c-i-o -- and Jerome 15 

### Paulson. If you could come on up to the table. And 16 

### after that, just so you're aware, the next two will 17 

### be Kevin Kriescher and Thomas Hervey. So the next 18 

### two up. But for now, it's Paul Cicio and Jerome 19 

### Paulson. 20 

### MR. CICIO: Paul -- P-a-u-l C-i-c-i-o. 21 

### Should I start? 22 

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### MR. CICIO: My name is Paul Cicio, and I 2 

### am the president of the Industrial Energy Consumers 3 

### of America. We are a non-profit trade association 4 

### whose member companies have over $1 trillion in 5 

### annual revenues, and we employ 1.4 million people. 6 

### I am here to express serious concerns about the 7 

### excessive costs and limited effectiveness of the EPA 8 

### proposed -- proposal to tighten the National Ambient 9 

### Air Quality Standard from 75 parts per billion to 10 

### between 70 and 65. 11 

### For these companies, relatively small 12 

### increases in cost can have relatively large impacts 13 

### to global competitiveness and their ability to 14 

### create jobs, make capital investments and exports. 15 

### These industries consume 73 percent of all of the 16 

### energy of the entire manufacturing sector. While 17 

### they do consume a lot of energy, EIA data says they 18 

### are extremely energy efficient and have a consistent 19 

### track record of reducing energy and greenhouse gas 20 

### -- gases. 21 

### Unfortunately, the proposed ozone standard 22 

### -- standards are projected to substantially increase 

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### the cost of both natural gas and electricity, 2 

### directly impacting these companies. IECA companies 3 

### support responsible, cost-effective action to 4 

### address ozone. The proposed lower ozone standards, 5 

### however, provide a substantial economic and 6 

### technical challenge because the proposed ozone 7 

### levels are so low that they may not be 8 

### distinguishable from natural, ground level ozone. 9 

### As you know, ozone is created by a 10 

### chemical -- complex chemical reaction that is 11 

### impacted by nature, weather and temperature. Due to 12 

### limited cost-effective ozone reduction options, 13 

### manufacturers will be unable to consistently meet 14 

### these lower ozone levels. It is important to note 15 

### that if the cost of operating facilities in the 16 

### United States becomes too high and they can no 17 

### longer compete, companies will move their operations 18 

### to other countries. This is called emission 19 

### leakage, and it moves both the emissions and the 20 

### jobs offshore. 21 

### Imports will also increase, further 22 

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### third of the country -- approximately a third of the 2 

### country is in regions that currently do not meet the 3 

### current ground level ozone standard. We believe 4 

### that the EPA should focus on achieving the existing 5 

### standard before it is lowered. The ability of these 6 

### regions to meet the current standard speaks loudly 7 

### to the challenge of meeting lower standards and 8 

### should give EPA pause. 9 

### The cost would grow exponentially because 10 

### each increment of reduction would be more costly 11 

### than the last, with diminishing options for 12 

### companies to reduce either inside their fence line 13 

### or by offsets outside their fence line. As a 14 

### result, the new standard is likely to be the most 15 

### costly environmental regulation ever proposed, 16 

### slowing job growth, eroding America's manufacturing 17 

### base that is just now beginning to recover. 18 

### According to EPA's data, the current 19 

### standard -- if the current standard were tightened 20 

### to 65 parts per billion, an estimated 59 percent of 21 

### the U.S. population would live in regions that would 22 

### not be in compliance. Even a less stringent

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### standard of 70 parts per billion would mean 48 2 

### percent of Americans would live in areas that do not 3 

### meet the standard. 4 

### IECA as an organization has consistently 5 

### advocated for cost-effective environmental 6 

### regulations that address the societal concerns 7 

### without imposing undue cost on the economy and job 8 

### creation. In this instance, leaving the current 9 

### ozone standard in place and focusing on meeting the 10 

### standards across -- the existing standard across the 11 

### entire United States is the appropriate EPA 12 

### position. 13 

### According to the EPA, the annual cost of 14 

### this ozone rule would be $3.9 billion at 70 parts 15 

### per billion, 100 -- $15 billion at 65. The National 16 

### Association of Manufacturer study indicates that 17 

### this would increase the cost of natural gas 52 18 

### percent, in electricity at 23 percent, and that 19 

### impacts not just manufacturers but also homeowners. 20 

### Regardless of which study is correct, good jobs and 21 

### economic growth will be impacted. 22 

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### MR. DEMOCKER: Thank you. 2 

### MR. PAULSON: Good afternoon. I'm Jerome 3 

### -- J-e-r-o-m-e -- Paulson -- P-a-u-l-s-o-n. Thank 4 

### you for the opportunity to provide comments today. 5 

### I'm a pediatrician who has managed the Mid-Atlantic 6 

### Center for Children's Health and the Environment, 7 

### which is one of the 10 EPA and ATSDR-funded 8 

### pediatric environmental health specialty units since 9 

### 2000. In the past, I have also served as a member 10 

### of the EPA's Children's Health Protection Advisory 11 

### Committee. I am involved in a number of other 12 

### children's environmental health organizations and 13 

### activities and currently chair the executive 14 

### committee of the American Academy of Pediatrics 15 

### Council on Environmental Health. 16 

### In my past work as a primary care 17 

### pediatrician, and in the work that I do consulting 18 

### with other healthcare providers and parents through 19 

### the Mid-Atlantic Center, I am well aware of the 20 

### problems that children encounter as a result of 21 

### ozone pollution. Based on what I know from medical 22 

### and public health research, I would like to see the 

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### EPA set the ozone pollution limit at 60 parts per 2 

### bill -- per billion. 3 

### Knowing that this is not part of the 4 

### current discussion, I certainly support the EPA's 5 

### proposed ozone pollution limits of between 65 and 70 6 

### parts per billion as a critical and long overdue 7 

### first step. Ozone pollution in the air 8 

### disproportionally impacts children, whose unique 9 

### health and developmental needs make them more 10 

### susceptible to pollutants. Children are not little 11 

### adults and one cannot extrapolate from what one 12 

### knows about adults and their physiology and the 13 

### impact of toxicants on their bodies and assume that 14 

### some rule of thumb will allow you to reach correct 15 

### decisions about children. 16 

### Kids breathe faster than adults. They 17 

### spend more time outdoors playing and being 18 

### physically active. We have an epidemic of obesity 19 

### in this country. We want kids outside and active to 20 

### help with that. But, of course, when kids are 21 

### outside and active, they are breathing more ozone 22 

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### concentration of that pollutant, ozone in this case, 2 

### they get a higher dose than an adult who is in the 3 

### same environment. 4 

### But children's lungs are not fully 5 

### developed until they're about 18 years of age. Some 6 

### will be a little younger, some will be a little 7 

### older, but it's somewhere around there. High levels 8 

### of ozone in the air, including levels above 60 parts 9 

### per billion, can lead to decreased lung function in 10 

### all children on an acute basis -- coughing, burning 11 

### of the throat, shortness of breath, as well as 12 

### inflammation and swelling of the airways, the 13 

### trachea and the neck, the bronchial tubes and the 14 

### chest. 15 

### With long-term exposure to ozone 16 

### pollution, children can experience permanent 17 

### scarring of their lungs. For children who already 18 

### have asthma, ozone pollution can cause flare-ups of 19 

### their symptoms, resulting in trips to the doctor's 20 

### office, emergency room or even the intensive care 21 

### unit for treatment. The children miss school and 22 

### they're unable to engage in recreational activities

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### worst ozone year, 21 percent of children experienced 2 

### decreased lung function of 10 percent or more. At 3 

### 65 ppb, this percentage of children with decreased 4 

### lung and -- lung function decreases to 18 percent, 5 

### and at 60, to 14. 6 

### I encourage you to limit ozone as low as 7 

### you possibly can under your current guidelines. 8 

### MR. DEMOCKER: All right. Thank you both 9 

### very much. All right. Next up we have Kevin 10 

### Kriescher and Thomas Hervey. All right, Mr. 11 

### Kriescher. 12 

### MR. KRIESCHER: I'm Kevin Kriescher -- 13 

### K-r-i-e-s-c-h-e-r, and in the past I have been a 14 

### teacher of math and physics, but I have decided to 15 

### devote my time to environmental efforts, mainly the 16 

### Sierra Club's project to move Maryland beyond the 17 

### coal generation of electricity. And as you may 18 

### know, this effort seemed to be going in the right 19 

### direction. We achieved great success, but they've 20 

### all been through regulations that we have achieved 21 

### off the table. 22 

### And I've learned a lot from this 

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### experience, mainly that progressing in that 2 

### direction, i.e., improving our air quality through 3 

### the changing of electricity generation over from 4 

### carbon to renewables, would seem to me to be a very 5 

### multi-faceted project, one part of which is 6 

### educating the people as -- about the cause of their 7 

### cardiopulmonary disease and reminding them that 8 

### organizations such as the EPA are not just 9 

### regulators statutorily, but they are on their side 10 

### and may be reducing the ppb, but they are at the 11 

### same time increasing their health, and some people 12 

### need to be reminded about the language and the world 13 

### around them. 14 

### The other was, of course, to rally the 15 

### industry. And as you know, the renewable industry 16 

### has achieved great success, and if more of the 17 

### investors in the coal industry realized that 18 

### investment in renewable industry was a much more 19 

### promising venture, then a lot of the battles that I 20 

### have experienced or witnessed or learned from would 21 

### simply fade away. And definitely lowering the regs 22 

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### direction. 2 

### The one concern I have though is that the 3 

### big problem I noticed in Maryland was that our coal 4 

### plants were a major violation of the EPA --- EPA 5 

### regulations and found a significant number of 6 

### loopholes around them. And my concern is that as 7 

### these regulations are being adjusted in the right 8 

### direction -- and I am in tremendous support of 9 

### lowering it to 60 ppb -- that a due amount of time 10 

### is spent holding these coal industries to task and 11 

### punishing them, and not just allocating that job to 12 

### the states. Because it does seem that they do 13 

### easily buck the system, and so that is my concern. 14 

### I do applaud lowering it to 60 ppb, but I want to 15 

### make sure that equal effort is applied to making -- 16 

### making the industries conform to that. 17 

### That's basically all I have to say. I may 18 

### add something else to something that Mr. David 19 

### Smedick added earlier before lunch. He has lived 20 

### outside of the Maryland area and has experienced 21 

### differences in the quality of air. I've experienced 22 

### exactly the same thing. I grew up in New York and

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### most recently, I was reminded of there's a 2 

### difference. For the first time in my life when I 3 

### was returning to Baltimore, I noticed a tremendous 4 

### decrease in the quality of air in my lungs and the 5 

### flu and bronchitis season hit me 10 times as hard. 6 

### And that -- that's -- that was the first time I 7 

### noticed that. That was my opener. Thank you for 8 

### your time. 9 

### MR. HERVEY: Good afternoon. My name is 10 

### Thomas Hervey -- T-h-o-m-a-s -- last name Hervey -- 11 

### H-e-r-v-e-y. I am a recent college graduate and I 12 

### currently live in Baltimore. I have been in the 13 

### Baltimore area pretty much my whole life, besides 14 

### traveling across this country. I want to thank you 15 

### for your time in allowing me to testify. I know you 16 

### have a lot of speakers, and I hope that everything 17 

### goes pretty well and you guys aren't too tired by 18 

### the time you get out. 19 

### My testimony today is going to be pretty 20 

### brief. It's actually a learning experience for me. 21 

### This is the first time I've been able to come to one 22 

### of these hearings, and I don't have anything



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### strategically prepared with any sort of quantifiable 2 

### numbers or sentimental stories, not to undermine any 3 

### of the valuable ones that we've heard before. 4 

### But my purpose is a little bit more of a 5 

### representative perspective. I am, like my colleague 6 

### here, very much in favor of the proposal to lower 7 

### down to 60 bbs (sic). And while I think that a lot 8 

### of the stories that I heard in the previous session 9 

### are both very, very moving, as well as very 10 

### important and applicable, I am here because I wanted 11 

### to explain that I think that there are not enough 12 

### cases like this where we're able to actually speak 13 

### out about this scenario. 14 

### I've been told today that there are only 15 

### three locations, including this one, where there is 16 

### actually this public hearing, and I know due to 17 

### different circumstances, there can't be more, and in 18 

### a lot of other cases, there aren't even three public 19 

### hearings. But I wish that there was something that 20 

### could be -- that could happen more often, because I 21 

### know at least just from my personal experience that 22 

### there are plenty of people who would like to get 

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### this opinion out about lowering the smog levels but 2 

### are unable to really determine who they need to talk 3 

### to about it. And I think that that would -- that 4 

### would be a voice that would be echoed across many 5 

### different states and communities. 6 

### I am currently -- one of my part-time jobs 7 

### is I'm freelance mapping for a couple different 8 

### companies in the central Baltimore area, one of them 9 

### being Central Baltimore Partnership. And through 10 

### that work, I have actually talked to individuals at 11 

### different neighborhoods. And while I mention this 12 

### isn't really a sentimental ploy, this is more about 13 

### representation, I've talked to a lot of mothers and 14 

### their kids who have talked about how they are unable 15 

### to figure out who their -- their delegates are and 16 

### their other representatives in order to get their 17 

### points across, and that they are actually too busy 18 

### to be dealing with those sort of things when they 19 

### actually have to be taking their kids for asthma 20 

### attacks. 21 

### Now, Baltimore is not only heavily 22 

### polluted, but it has a lot of other climate



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### injustices and disparities that aren't completely 2 

### applicable to this situation. But one of the things 3 

### that I've noticed is that the whole -- Maryland as a 4 

### state, as a whole, especially different communities 5 

### across the state, are already within a failing state 6 

### that the EPA has already generated, Baltimore being 7 

### worse than that. And having talked to a lot of the 8 

### individual families, including mothers and kids 9 

### directly in the central Baltimore area, I find it 10 

### pretty disturbing that, you know, they have these 11 

### issues and they don't know how to get these issues 12 

### across, and so they'll talk to -- they'll wind up 13 

### mentioning these things to their local legislatures 14 

### if they're even able to find out who they are. But, 15 

### you know, I actually mentioned this to a few people 16 

### today, that I was coming to this hearing, and that, 17 

### you know, it was something that was not widely known 18 

### to them. 19 

### So, in conclusion, my point is that these 20 

### families have this opinion, the same one that a lot 21 

### of us here do as well, and not only do I think that 22 

### they are not represented as well as they could be,

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### they also don't seem to get the attention when they 2 

### finally have their voices heard. 3 

### That was a little bit longer than I 4 

### thought, but that's all. Thank you. 5 

### MR. DEMOCKER: All right. Thank you both 6 

### very much. Appreciate your comments. Let's see, 7 

### next up we will have Paul Friedman and Mandy Warner, 8 

### and after the two of them, on the on-deck circle, is 9 

### Donald Garrett and Catherine Thomasson. It seems 10 

### like it's sort of a directional mic, so got to make 11 

### sure it's pointed toward you. 12 

### MR. FRIEDMAN: Hello. I thought I would 13 

### begin, if I may, with just an opportunity to show 14 

### you what it's like to have asthma, because I have a 15 

### breathing problem today. You can hear that 16 

### wheezing. And I got this as an adult. So let me 17 

### begin by saying, good day. I am honored to have the 18 

### opportunity to -- oh, let me say my name first. 19 

### Paul Friedman -- P-a-u-l F-r-i-e-d-m-a-n -- Paul 20 

### Friedman. 21 

### I'm honored to have the opportunity to 22 

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### the EPA's proposed new ozone pollution standards. 2 

### Few Americans have the privilege to be in this 3 

### position, as we just heard. So I am aware that I 4 

### have a special responsibility. 5 

### I grew up in Trumbull, Connecticut. My 6 

### small town just north of Bridgeport was blessed with 7 

### clean air and water. As a child, I took that for 8 

### granted. Tragically, as an adult, I know that we 9 

### can't take clean air and water for granted. I 10 

### contracted asthma as an adult when I was a student 11 

### at -- in New York City, at New York Law School, and 12 

### continue to suffer from it today, as someone who 13 

### lives and works here in the D.C. Metropolitan area. 14 

### Indeed, one night while gasping for air in 15 

### D.C., I needed to go to the emergency room at GW 16 

### Hospital, and that's no fun for an adult or let 17 

### alone a child. Fortunately, we have a federal 18 

### government that's able to address this issue and 19 

### reduce everyone's likelihood of suffering from 20 

### asthma and ozone-related health problems. 21 

### To paraphrase, the president of the United 22 

### States, from his State of the Union address, I'm not 

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### a scientist, but there are a lot of really good 2 

### scientists devoted to this issue, and we're 3 

### convinced we need to significantly strengthen our 4 

### ozone standard. They overwhelmingly believe that 5 

### too many people have gotten sick or died prematurely 6 

### because of unhealthy levels of ozone pollution. We 7 

### need to trust them. 8 

### They say that when a person inhales ozone 9 

### pollution, it reacts chemically. It oxidizes with 10 

### the body's internal tissues, causing inflammation, 11 

### like sunburn of a lung. Ozone acts as a powerful 12 

### respiratory irritant at the levels frequently found 13 

### across the nation environment, especially during the 14 

### summer months. 15 

### In June of last year, the Clean Air 16 

### Scientific Advisory Committee, an independent 17 

### committee of scientists, unanimously recommended 18 

### that a much stronger standard was needed to 19 

### adequately protect public health from ozone 20 

### pollution. They recommended a range from 60 to 70 21 

### parts per billion, but pointed out the standard 60 22 

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### protection as required under the Clean Air Act. 2 

### An ozone standard of 60 parts per billion, 3 

### if you finalize it into law, will assure Americans 4 

### are better protected from ozone pollution that can 5 

### make people sick or die prematurely. Americans have 6 

### a right to be protected from dangerous air 7 

### pollution. They even have a right to take it for 8 

### granted. Moreover, I call your attention to the 9 

### Supreme Court ruling that held unanimously in 2001 10 

### that the Clean Air Act said that the EPA had to base 11 

### the nation's solely on what it took to protect 12 

### public health, period. 13 

### Finally, as I work for the national child 14 

### advocacy group Every Child Matters, I feel it is 15 

### only appropriate that I close my remarks by 16 

### reminding you of what is at stake for our kids. 17 

### Ozone is particularly dangerous for children. Their 18 

### lungs are still developing. They breathe in more 19 

### air per unit of body weight than adults do. They 20 

### also tend to spend more time outside. Children with 21 

### asthma are especially at risk of harm from elevated 22 

### ozone levels, but even healthy children can suffer

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### permanent damage to lung function if they're exposed 2 

### to ozone when they're young. 3 

### The idea that children are our future is 4 

### universally revered in our society. No doubt there 5 

### are financial interests opposed to setting the ozone 6 

### standard at 60 parts per billion. But this is an 7 

### opportunity to put our money where our mouths are. 8 

### I urge you to do so. Thank you. 9 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Thank you. 10 

### MS. WARNER: Good afternoon. My name is 11 

### Mandy Warner -- M-a-n-d-y W-a-r-n-e-r -- and I'm 12 

### with the Environmental Defense Fund, a non-partisan, 13 

### non-profit environmental group with more than a 14 

### million members nationwide. Thank you for the 15 

### opportunity to testify here today. 16 

### As you know, ozone, the main component of 17 

### smog, is a harmful air pollutant that is associated 18 

### with numerous adverse health effects like asthma and 19 

### other respiratory diseases, and is even linked to 20 

### early death. EPA's proposal to strengthen the 21 

### current standard for ozone to a range that is 22 

### consistent with the recommendation of our nation's



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### leading scientists and public health and medical 2 

### professionals, is critical to protect the health of 3 

### our children, families and communities, and to 4 

### ensure that all Americans know whether the air they 5 

### are breathing is safe. 6 

### In finalizing these important health 7 

### standards, EDF respectfully urges EPA to set the 8 

### standard for ozone at 60 parts per billion, as the 9 

### scientific record demonstrates that this level would 10 

### provide the strongest public health protections for 11 

### Americans. 12 

### In 1970, Congress established an effective 13 

### process in the fight against air pollution. A 14 

### bipartisan majority in Congress determined that the 15 

### nation's health-based air quality standards be based 16 

### on public health considerations alone. Then, in 17 

### determining how to achieve these health standards, 18 

### states and municipalities thoroughly consider 19 

### economics in developing the strategies best suited 20 

### to their own circumstances. This dual system has 21 

### been time tested, congressionally mandated and 22 

### reaffirmed by the Supreme Court. 

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### EPA's independent Clean Air Scientific 2 

### Advisory Committee has indicated that the current 3 

### standard is inadequate to protect public health and 4 

### recommended a standard in the range of 60 to 70 5 

### parts per billion. CASAC is clear that a standard 6 

### of 60 would offer more public health protection than 7 

### a standard of 65 or 70. 8 

### CASAC's recommendation and EPA's analysis 9 

### reflected in the proposal are based on an extensive 10 

### and compelling body of scientific evidence. Since 11 

### the last proposal, there have been more than a 12 

### thousand new studies that demonstrate the health and 13 

### environmental harms of ozone. EPA's analysis 14 

### highlights the clear, profound health benefits of 15 

### strengthening the standard to 60. 16 

### Under a standard of 60, for example, EPA 17 

### projects as many as 7,900 fewer deaths, 1.8 million 18 

### fewer asthma attacks in children, and 9.2 million 19 

### fewer minor restricted activity days or lost school 20 

### days. Indeed, EPA estimates at this level of 21 

### protection, the monetized benefits in 2025 will be 22 

### 37 to 75 billion.



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1 Now, naysayers hat use hyperbolic language 2 when describing the economic impacts of 3 strengthening clean air standards have not produced 4 any credible evidence to support their claims of an 5 economic harm stemming from reducing ozone 6 pollution. The U.S. has four and half decades of 7 experience implementing the Clean Air Act while 8 maintaining strong economic growth. 9 In 1997, during another debate over 10 strengthening national ozone standard, Senator 11 Spencer Abraham was among those who claimed that the 12 new standards would have serious economic impacts. 13 He stated, quote, "Dry cleaning establishments, hair 14 salons, and other small businesses will not be able 15 to absorb the increased costs imposed by these 16 regulations," end quote. 17 These claims of economic doom and gloom 18 did not come to past, as we know, as has been the 19 case with many other instances of strengthening 20 public health standards. In an extensive report, 21 "Assessing the Costs and Benefits of the Clean Air 22 Act," EPA found that the net benefits of the Clean

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### Air Act from 1970 to 1990 are valued at over $21 2 

### trillion. By 2020, the EPA estimates the 1990 3 

### amendments will prevent a projected 230,000 deaths. 4 

### Additionally, EPA projects a net overall 5 

### improvement in economic growth due to the benefits 6 

### of cleaner air. As in the past, our nation has 7 

### common sense and cost-effective solutions already 8 

### moving forward that will help to achieve a more 9 

### protective ozone standard and restore healthy air. 10 

### These solutions include clean air measures supported 11 

### by the U.S. auto industry that will dramatically 12 

### reduce the smog-forming emissions from new cars 13 

### beginning in Model Year 7 -- 2017, and the landmark 14 

### Clean Power Plan that will reduce a suite of health 15 

### harming emissions from power plants. 16 

### We know that the health benefits of 17 

### reducing ozone are substantial and that in part due 18 

### to clean air standards already in effect and 19 

### expected to be implemented, we can achieve 20 

### cost-effective, lifesaving reductions of ozone as 21 

### we've done in the past. 22 

### Here in the nation's capital, we face



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### higher levels of ozone. The most recent American 2 

### Lung Association state-of-the-air report gave D.C. 3 

### an F grade on ozone. The D.C. region ranked eighth 4 

### out of the 277 metro areas examined for high ozone 5 

### days. We also know that rising temperatures from 6 

### our changing climate will worsen ozone challenges in 7 

### some places, and the communities will need help 8 

### reducing ozone pollution now and in the future. 9 

### Setting the ozone standard to 60 will help those of 10 

### us in D.C. and across the country breathe easier. 11 

### Thank you again for the opportunity to 12 

### testify today. We will be submitting further 13 

### technical comments to EPA. 14 

### MR. DEMOCKER: All right. Thank you. 15 

### Okay, next up we will have Donald Garrett and 16 

### Catherine Thomasson. After them, this order, 17 

### Jessica Hodge and Seth Bush, and after them 18 

### Charlotte Wallace and Katie Huffling. So if you 19 

### haven't heard your name but you're -- as the 20 

### afternoon wears on, if you -- if you haven't been 21 

### called up, you want to make sure -- there's a second 22 

### room -- that you aren't actually scheduled to speak 

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### in the other room. So you can just check with the 2 

### registration -- the folks at the registration desk 3 

### if you think we haven't given you a chance to speak 4 

### yet. 5 

### All right, Donald Garrett. 6 

### MR. GARRETT: Good afternoon. My name is 7 

### Donald Garrett -- D-o-n-a-l-d G-a-r-r-e-t-t -- and I 8 

### want to thank you for the opportunity to hear me out 9 

### this afternoon. I really believe that environmental 10 

### protection is an important priority for us here in 11 

### America, because not only are we the current 12 

### stewards of our earth and our environment, but also 13 

### for the future generations here as well. 14 

### However, protecting the environment must 15 

### be balanced with maintaining a strong economy with 16 

### an environment that is also friendly to jobs. How 17 

### are we to enjoy our beautiful earth if companies 18 

### take away economic opportunities and place them 19 

### overseas? 20 

### There are many situations where regulation 21 

### intervention is justified, but this is not one of 22 

### them. This regulation would destroy billions and



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### billions of potential economic impact in our 2 

### communities and studies have shown that this is one 3 

### of the most expensive regulations in America. 4 

### We are still -- we are in a still 5 

### recovering economy, and earlier industries have 6 

### testified that jobs would be lost due to this 7 

### regulation. I believe the EPA should reconsider 8 

### this rule and instead uphold the current standard of 9 

### 75 parts per billion. 10 

### MS. THOMASSON: Thank you. Hello. My 11 

### name is Dr. Catherine Thomasson. That's 12 

### C-a-t-h-e-r-i-n-e -- Thomasson -- T-h-o-m-a-s-s-o-n. 13 

### I'm a physician, and I'm also the executive director 14 

### of Physicians for Social Responsibility. 15 

### As a physician, I've treated people who 16 

### have acute wheezing and asthma and put them in the 17 

### hospital for treatment. I've seen and treated acute 18 

### heart attacks and fainting from erythremias, as well 19 

### as dealing with those individuals who have chronic 20 

### pulmonary obstructive disease. I learned over time 21 

### that I needed to warn patients about high ozone or 22 

### bad air days so that they -- so that they would

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### restrict their activities because it was harmful to 2 

### their health or would cause them to be placed in the 3 

### hospital or even potentially dying. 4 

### But in even on -- and on bad air days, 5 

### even healthy adult workers need to restrict their 6 

### activities or be careful because ozone, as we know, 7 

### is a toxin to the lungs. In addition, there are 8 

### other ozone-caused problems that we only know 9 

### because of studies that are done. We don't see it 10 

### as a -- necessarily as a cause and effect but we 11 

### have found these to be true on a broader population 12 

### level. 13 

### So we know that over time exposure to 14 

### higher levels of ozone results in smaller lung 15 

### volumes in children who are exposed imminently to 16 

### higher ozone levels when they play more sports 17 

### outdoors. We know that statistically, children born 18 

### to mothers who live in higher ozone rates have lower 19 

### fetal birth weight. This is a marker for chronic 20 

### health problems in the future and a suppression of 21 

### growth. 22 

### The current eight-hour standard of 75



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### parts per billion fails to protect health for the 2 

### general population, let alone those at higher risks. 3 

### The peer-reviewed literature also does not provide 4 

### evidence for the existence of no adverse effect 5 

### level. In other words, ozone is bad at whatever 6 

### level you are at. So it is important for us to set 7 

### an appropriate level that protects not only those 8 

### who are at high risk, but also to help -- and in 9 

### addition to the healthy overall population. 10 

### So I'm very pleased that the agency is 11 

### considering lowering the National Ambient Air 12 

### Quality Standard for Ozone. We hope the agency 13 

### moves towards the adoption of a final rule by 14 

### October 1, 2015 that's based exclusively on 15 

### scientific, health-based data and not allow 16 

### political considerations, rather viewing the facts. 17 

### The Clean Air Act requires primary 18 

### standards to be requisite to protect public health 19 

### with an adequate margin of safety, including the 20 

### health of groups of people considered at higher 21 

### risks. The lower limit encouraged by this proposed 22 

### rule of 65 to 70 parts per billion does not meet 

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### that requisite standard. It does not provide an 2 

### adequate margin of safety for sensitive populations, 3 

### including the fetus, children and patients with 4 

### respiratory and cardiac diseases. 5 

### The peer-reviewed literature now, since 6 

### the last standard, shows ample evidence that ozone 7 

### levels of 60 parts per billion still produces 8 

### reduction in pulmonary function at relatively short 9 

### exposure times in research healthy individuals. 10 

### Therefore, the primary eight-hour standard should be 11 

### no higher than 60 parts per billion. 12 

### The agency should also sponsor or at least 13 

### encourage research to determine whether the current 14 

### and proposed form and averaging time provide an 15 

### adequate margin of safety. We don't believe it 16 

### does. The break point for the revised Air Quality 17 

### Index of moderate quality should also be no higher 18 

### than 60 parts per billion in view of published 19 

### reports that this concentration causes symptoms 20 

### among healthy adults. 21 

### And again, we hope the track is maintained 22 

### and that we get the final rule by October 1st.



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### Thank you very much for allowing me to provide 2 

### testimony today. 3 

### MR. DEMOCKER: All right. Thank you both 4 

### for your comments. All right, next up will be 5 

### Jessica Hodge and Seth Bush, followed by Charlotte 6 

### Wallace and Katie Huffling. 7 

### MS. HODGE: Hi. My name is Jessica Hodge, 8 

### and I work for Earthjustice and also live in D.C. 9 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Is that H-o-d-g-e? 10 

### MS. HODGE: H-o-d-g-e, correct. So as I 11 

### said, my name is Jessica Hodge and I work, play and 12 

### live in Washington, D.C., which you all know has a 13 

### smog problem. I could talk about all of the -- I 14 

### could read back your fact sheets to you, which 15 

### there's a lot of great information there, and I 16 

### appreciate everyone that has talked about the health 17 

### impacts and the facts around that. But I'm just 18 

### going to talk about, kind of, my experiences here. 19 

### So one reason I decided to speak today is 20 

### on behalf of me and my fellow -- fellow triathletes 21 

### and exercisers here in D.C. When I first moved 22 

### here, I never jogged a day in my life, but as you

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### know, everyone does it here, so you kind of jump on 2 

### the bandwagon and you spend a lot of time outdoors. 3 

### Many of my teammates have to watch the Air 4 

### Quality Index to determine when they can run, bike 5 

### or swim outside. Unfortunately, they are still at 6 

### risk from asthma attacks and respiratory distress at 7 

### levels currently reported as safe. When you can 8 

### figure out if you're having an orange high terrorist 9 

### alert day or an orange air quality day, you try to 10 

### figure out where you're at. But right now, people 11 

### are still in danger from what is deemed safe. 12 

### They need a standard that not only works 13 

### to improve air quality, but warns them when polluted 14 

### air may put them at risk. You've heard this before, 15 

### but I'm not a scientist or a health expert, but I'm 16 

### confident in the overwhelming scientific evidence 17 

### that ozone is harmful at levels of 60 parts per 18 

### billion and above. I believe EPA must follow the 19 

### science, which is the more protective standard of 20 

### 60. 21 

### So there was a -- one of our women I work 22 

### with in Landover that was supposed to come today,



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### but she was actually having breathing problems and 2 

### so she sent me a little set of testimony, so I will 3 

### read it for you, and then make sure it gets in the 4 

### record. This is actually a pastor from -- Emma 5 

### White -- from Landover, Maryland. 6 

### MR. DEMOCKER: What's her name? Do you 7 

### know how her name is spelled? 8 

### MS. HODGE: It's Emma White -- W-h-i-t-e. 9 

### Pastor Emma White. She says, "I am honored to have 10 

### this great opportunity to speak." I am honored to 11 

### speak for her, on behalf of her family and friends 12 

### who have passed away or who are still suffering with 13 

### allergies, asthma, and serious bronchial issues. 14 

### "The reason I'm unable to attend the 15 

### hearing to speak out against these environmental 16 

### issues about clean air in Maryland and Mississippi 17 

### is because I'm currently affected by toxic and poor 18 

### air quality. Therefore, I am on a breathing machine 19 

### and using a Perforomist and Albuterol Sulphate to 20 

### help with better quality of life. I'm also using 21 

### oxygen every day to help with my breathing. 22 

### "And the answer is no. No, I am not a 

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### smoker and I am not a drinker, and never have been, 2 

### but nevertheless, I suffer dearly from poor air 3 

### quality. So it's important to me and my friends and 4 

### family who have signed petitions and are speaking 5 

### out to hear" -- "to have our voices be heard. I 6 

### stand to ask you for your support to acquire cleaner 7 

### air and better air quality in all of our 8 

### environments all over America. Thank you for your 9 

### support in hearing my testimony." 10 

### So these are the stories that I get to 11 

### hear about people's challenges. I have family 12 

### members with asthma. I have a three-year-old 13 

### cousin, that talk about pitching a fit when she has 14 

### to use that breathing machine and have to take her 15 

### medication. Like, that's no fun for parents, and 16 

### it's no fun to watch. 17 

### So I would like to end with we've made 18 

### significant progress in the U.S. towards cleaner 19 

### air. The Clean Air Act and EPA have been integral 20 

### in helping create cleaner, safer communities and 21 

### healthier families. But your work is far from done. 22 

### You have everything you need to continue the



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### progress, so it is time to finalize a standard that 2 

### protects all people. Thank you. 3 

### MR. BUSH: Hi. My name is Seth Bush -- 4 

### B-u-s-h. I'm an organizer with the Maryland Sierra 5 

### Club. And as part of my work being based in 6 

### Baltimore, which has some of the worst air quality, 7 

### particularly due to smog on the East Coast, I talk 8 

### to a lot of people with asthma and who live their 9 

### lives every day with asthma and other 10 

### cardiopulmonary issues or respiratory diseases. 11 

### And one of those people is now a good 12 

### friend of mine, Doris Toles. And she couldn't be 13 

### here today because she actually had a pretty severe 14 

### asthma attack, which led to pneumonia, and she was 15 

### in the hospital for the last few weeks of December 16 

### and is still -- still recovering. I wanted to read 17 

### some testimony that she -- she passed along to me 18 

### that tells a little bit of her -- of her story. 19 

### "My name is Doris Toles. I'm a Baltimore 20 

### City resident and I have Chronic Obstructive 21 

### Pulmonary Disease and asthma. I'm here today to 22 

### tell you about my experiences of respiratory

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### diseases, Baltimore's polluted air, and to tell you 2 

### why it is so critical for people like me that the 3 

### EPA move forward with strong, health-protective 4 

### limits on smog pollution. 5 

### "When I was two years old, I contracted 6 

### pneumonia and was hospitalized. A month later, I 7 

### had my first asthma attack. It was scary, my 8 

### parents told me. During my childhood, adolescence, 9 

### young adulthood, to present day, I struggled to 10 

### manage my respiratory disease. Imagine that you can 11 

### only breathe from one nostril through a straw. 12 

### Within a few minutes, that straw feels like a coffee 13 

### stirrer because your airways become too inflamed to 14 

### move air in and out of your lungs properly. 15 

### "As a result, your lungs become weakened 16 

### and damaged from the constant stress of breathing 17 

### and of asthma attacks. I use a device called a peak 18 

### flow meter that measures my ability to exhale air 19 

### from my lungs. For people with normal lung 20 

### capacity, the device measures 800 liters per minute. 21 

### I measure 300 on a good day. That indicates to me 22 

### why I become short of breath at a certain point of



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### exertion. 2 

### "Smog puts me at risk and at a 3 

### disadvantage because whatever I do or wherever I go, 4 

### I must measure and calculate my activities because 5 

### of the limitations put upon me from our poor air 6 

### environment. Code Orange and Code Red air alert 7 

### days are particularly worrisome because those are 8 

### the days when I am most likely to have an asthma 9 

### attack that could land me in the emergency room even 10 

### when I have my medication. 11 

### "I'm no longer able to hold a consistent 12 

### job because the symptoms of my disease are 13 

### unpredictable. Some days I feel great and others I 14 

### can't leave my house for fear of having an asthma 15 

### attack. This is a disability, and that curtails my 16 

### financial income. Nevertheless, I have to keep up 17 

### with high costs for medication, treatment and 18 

### hospital visits. 19 

### "I have a Symbicort maintenance inhaler 20 

### that I use twice a day every day. It lasts for a 21 

### month and it costs $366. I also have an Albuterol 22 

### emergency inhaler that I use when I can tell I'm 

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### about to have an asthma attack, which costs almost 2 

### $90. Sometimes I go through a whole Albuterol 3 

### cannister in three weeks, depending on the intensity 4 

### of the bad air quality on extreme temperature days. 5 

### On poor air quality days having it, using it can 6 

### mean the difference between life and death. 7 

### "Then there's doctor's visits, tests and 8 

### evaluations. I have insurance, thank goodness, that 9 

### covers most of it, but not everyone has that luxury. 10 

### I understand that my asthma attacks are connected to 11 

### the concentrations of air pollutants in Baltimore's 12 

### environment. For many years, my doctors and 13 

### allergists have informed me about my exposure to 14 

### smog-forming emissions. I'm not only one living" -- 15 

### "the only one living with this reality, and there 16 

### are many who have died because of asthma. 17 

### "Cleaning up pollution from the area's 18 

### coal-fired power plants and other smog sources helps 19 

### people like me stay alive. I support the proposed 20 

### EPA standards that will clean up the pollution that 21 

### makes me sick, and I support setting them at the 22 

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### Please do this for people like me so we too can do 2 

### what we can to get on with our lives." 3 

### And I've talked to many other people who 4 

### share similar testimony, and at the end of the day, 5 

### any little bit helps. And they'll tell you 6 

### firsthand that what we're doing so far isn't enough 7 

### and we need to do more. So thank you. 8 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Thank you very much for 9 

### your comments. Next up, Charlotte Wallace and Katie 10 

### Huffling. And they will be followed by William 11 

### Picksford, Sara Via, Rob Underwood and Alexia 12 

### Prochvicky (phonetic). 13 

### MS. WALLACE: Hello. Good afternoon. My 14 

### name is Charlotte Wallace -- C-h-a-r-l-o-t-t-e 15 

### W-a-l-l-a-c-e. I'm a former pediatric nurse of 17 16 

### years who transitioned to community public health 17 

### because I was tired of seeing children suffer with 18 

### diseases I feel we can prevent in society. 19 

### I am here on behalf of Anne Arundel 20 

### Medical Center in Annapolis, Maryland. We strongly 21 

### encourage the EPA to consider the health of our most 22 

### vulnerable population who carry the heaviest burden

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### of this decision and set the most protective 2 

### standard for ozone at 60 parts per billion. 3 

### As a pediatric nurse, I have seen 4 

### firsthand the severity of asthma in Maryland. I and 5 

### every acute care pediatric nurse and provider have 6 

### witnessed infants, children and adolescents 7 

### struggling for each breath due to an asthma attack. 8 

### The wheeze sound associated with asthma is actually 9 

### the auditory effect of air forcing its way through 10 

### the swollen branches of the lungs. 11 

### It is common to see nasals flare, 12 

### abdominals strain, enough muscles trying to pull in 13 

### oxygen with each breath. The patients are unable to 14 

### speak in a full sentence and are often agitated with 15 

### a scared look on their little faces. Unfortunately, 16 

### I, like many of my colleagues, know how deadly this 17 

### disease can be. 18 

### The burden of asthma is often measured in 19 

### terms of prevalence. According to Healthy People 20 

### 2020, there are currently over 23 million people 21 

### with asthma in the U.S., including 7 million 22 

### children. In 2010 alone, asthma was linked to over



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### 3,400 deaths in the United States. The burden of 2 

### asthma affects the individual, their families, 3 

### schools, workplaces, neighborhood cities and states. 4 

### In 2008, asthma was attributed to 14.4 million 5 

### missed school days in the United States. 6 

### Chronic absenteeism increases achievement 7 

### gaps at all levels of academic achievement, but 8 

### mostly for the lower socioeconomic children whose 9 

### pathway out of poverty is a solid education. The 10 

### burden of asthma also falls on society to the direct 11 

### costs of the healthcare system and indirect costs of 12 

### missed work. 13 

### In 2009, the estimated incremental direct 14 

### costs of asthma in the United States was more than 15 

### $53 billion a year. Asthma does not discriminate. 16 

### However, significant health disparities do exist in 17 

### particular lower socioeconomic status minority 18 

### populations and living in the northeast United 19 

### States. A study published just last week by Johns 20 

### Hopkins Hospital reports that the rate of asthma in 21 

### African American and Puerto Rican American children 22 

### have asthma rates almost double those of white, or 

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### rather, European American children. 2 

### Asthma cannot be cured, but asthma can be 3 

### prevented. Healthy People 2020 has identified 4 

### asthma as a public health prevention priority due to 5 

### the national increase in the prevalence of asthma 6 

### since 1980. I have always wished for a magic wand 7 

### to reduce and prevent the suffering that I have 8 

### witnessed. Although I do not possess those 9 

### particular powers, you do. 10 

### Several studies cited by the EPA show an 11 

### association between high ozone levels and asthma. 12 

### The risk is greatest of asthma when children 13 

### exercise or play sports outside and ozone levels are 14 

### high. Emergency room staff, not just at Anne 15 

### Arundel but around our nation, witness with -- this 16 

### direct trend as well. 17 

### Infants and children are more vulnerable 18 

### to air pollution because their lungs are still 19 

### developing, making them more susceptible to damage. 20 

### Their intake per pound of an infant is twice that of 21 

### an adult. Children are often outdoors for longer 22 

### periods of time and play harder, increasing the



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### amount of polluted air they inhale. Our children 2 

### should be able to play outside without the risk of 3 

### harming their lungs. 4 

### Our innocent children deserve a chance to 5 

### live a healthy and productive life. It is up to us 6 

### to protect them from known harm. I, on behalf of 7 

### Anne Arundel Medical Center, are advocating for the 8 

### most productive standard -- protective standard 9 

### under consideration of 60 parts per billion over 10 

### eight hours. The EPA must apply the precautionary 11 

### principle to protect the health of our most 12 

### vulnerable population -- our children, who carry the 13 

### heaviest burden of this decision. 14 

### On behalf of all the pediatric patients 15 

### too little to speak for themselves, thank you for 16 

### your time and the opportunity to comment. 17 

### MS. HUFFLING: Hi. Good afternoon. My 18 

### name is Katie -- K-a-t-i-e -- Huffling -- 19 

### H-u-f-f-l-i-n-g -- and I live in Mount Ranier, 20 

### Maryland. Thank you for the opportunity to comment 21 

### on this important public health issue. I'm here 22 

### representing the Alliance of Nurses for Healthy

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### Environments. We're the only national organization 2 

### of nurses that focuses solely on environmental 3 

### health. 4 

### We would like to express our strong 5 

### support for lowering the ozone standard to the most 6 

### protective level of 60 parts per billion. As a 7 

### nurse-midwife, my goal is to help women and families 8 

### have the healthiest pregnancies and the healthiest 9 

### babies possible. Unfortunately, air pollution and 10 

### the resultant ozone can present a challenge for 11 

### women and children who are especially vulnerable to 12 

### the negative impacts of these pollutants. 13 

### In the Baltimore and Washington, D.C. 14 

### regions, we have some of the most polluted air in 15 

### the country and some of the highest numbers of poor 16 

### air quality days in which the smog levels are so 17 

### high that even healthy adults may have difficulty 18 

### breathing when they're outside. 19 

### I've seen firsthand how poor air quality 20 

### days can have a significant effect on healthy 21 

### pregnant women. Many of my asthmatic patients would 22 

### come into my office wheezing or report increased use



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### of their inhalers on poor air quality days. Having 2 

### good control of your asthma is an essential part of 3 

### a healthy pregnancy, as the mother's breaths are the 4 

### baby's only source of oxygen. 5 

### We caution pregnant women to stay inside 6 

### on poor air quality days as exposure to air 7 

### pollution has been linked to poor pregnancy outcomes 8 

### such as low birth weight and exacerbation of asthma 9 

### and lung irritation. However, most women can't put 10 

### their lives on hold when there's a poor air quality 11 

### day. For most women, they have to go to work, to 12 

### school or come in to see me at their pre-natal 13 

### appointments, and especially in urban environments, 14 

### may rely on public transportation where they have to 15 

### walk to their train or stand on busy roads waiting 16 

### for the bus, breathing in unacceptably high levels 17 

### of air pollution. 18 

### Ozone exposure during pregnancy is linked 19 

### to low birth weight. Low birth weight is not just a 20 

### matter of a baby born being small, it's a serious 21 

### condition that can lead to a variety of short- and 22 

### long-term health impacts for that baby such as 

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### difficulty adjusting to life outside the womb and 2 

### greater risk of chronic diseases as an adult, such 3 

### as diabetes, high blood pressure and obesity. 4 

### Besides issues with low birth rate, we're 5 

### also seeing long-term changes in the lungs of 6 

### children whose mothers were exposed to high levels 7 

### of air pollution while pregnant. These changes 8 

### could lead to an increased risk of asthma and 9 

### decreased lung function in these children. Children 10 

### born to asthmatic mothers who are exposed to 11 

### increased levels of air pollution during pregnancy 12 

### are also at greater risk of wheezing and difficulty 13 

### breathing at ozone levels near or at the current 14 

### ozone standards. 15 

### Besides the burden of treatment that his 16 

### places on our healthcare system, we must also take 17 

### into account the financial burden placed on parents 18 

### of asthmatic children through days lost of work and 19 

### school, as well as the emotional toll that this 20 

### places on a family when managing a chronic disease. 21 

### In Maryland alone, where I live, the direct costs of 22 

### treating asthma costs almost $4 billion annually.



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### The EPA is mandated to protect the health 2 

### of Americans, and clean air is vital to healthy 3 

### women, babies and families. That's why the Alliance 4 

### of Nurses for Healthy Environments strongly supports 5 

### the most protective ozone standard of 60 parts per 6 

### billion. 7 

### Thank you for this opportunity to comment 8 

### today, and I urge the EPA to quickly make the most 9 

### protective ozone standards that you can. Thank you. 10 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Thank you for your 11 

### comments. All right, next up is William Pickford 12 

### and Sara Via, followed by Alexia Portvicky and Rob 13 

### Underwood. We have William Pickford. 14 

### MR. BICKFORD: Bickford? 15 

### MR. DEMOCKER: I'm sorry? 16 

### MR. BICKFORD: Brad Bickford. 17 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Could be. I have William 18 

### Pickford is written down, but -- 19 

### MR. BICKFORD: You want me up? 20 

### MS. LANGDON: You're last name's Pickford. 21 

### MR. BICKFORD: Bickford. 22 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Okay. All right, come on

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### up. You said it was Brad? 2 

### MR. BICKFORD: Brad -- B-r-a-d. 3 

### MR. DEMOCKER: We will make the 4 

### correction. Sorry we got it wrong. 5 

### MR. BICKFORD: Bickford, B, as in boy, 6 

### i-c-k-f-o-r-d. 7 

### MR. DEMOCKER: All right. 8 

### MR. BICKFORD: You want me to start? 9 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Yes, please. 10 

### MR. BICKFORD: Okay. Thank you. Hello. 11 

### You already know my name. I've been a resident of 12 

### the District of Columbia for almost 30 years. I 13 

### want to thank EPA for holding these hearings, to 14 

### hear firsthand how smog pollution has affected the 15 

### citizens of this country. 16 

### The Clean Air Act amendment of 1970 gives 17 

### responsibility to the EPA to establish national 18 

### quality ambient air quality standards for hazardous 19 

### hydrocarbons for the purpose of protecting the 20 

### citizens of this country from hazardous air. Most 21 

### of these pollutants come from automobiles, trucks 22 

### and coal-burning power plants. Levels of 65 parts



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### per billion are proposed to help control these 2 

### pollutants, but this is not sufficient. 3 

### I grew up in this area. I used to play 4 

### soccer, softball, and on track. I have never 5 

### smoked. Now I don't even have the breathing power 6 

### to fill my lungs with oxygen for bursts of energy, 7 

### to sprint or chase balls. Over the years, living in 8 

### Washington, the air has gotten progressively harder 9 

### to breathe. I sometimes feel like a fish out of 10 

### water. 11 

### Air pollution from coal still goes on in 12 

### our nation's capital. The Capitol Power Plant, 13 

### located in a densely populated area on Capitol Hill, 14 

### still burns coal and a biomass called black liquor. 15 

### It pumps tons of carbon into the Washington 16 

### atmosphere. Breathing this polluted air now for 17 

### over 30 years, I developed a slight case of asthma. 18 

### Here's my ADVAIR inhaler, unfortunately, which I 19 

### have to use to participate in strenuous activities 20 

### or cold weather. 21 

### This condition can lead to heart problems, 22 

### as my heart has to pump harder to get fresh oxygen 

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### to my brain, as well as other people with this 2 

### condition. I recall President Obama saying he's 3 

### concerned about the kind of environment he's going 4 

### to leave for his daughters. My first grandchild was 5 

### born two months ago, and I worry about the quality 6 

### of air he is going to breathe. 7 

### So I'd like to strongly recommend that 8 

### smog standards be set at a minimum of 60 parts per 9 

### billion or lower. This country can achieve this 10 

### despite protests from profit-minded selfish members 11 

### of our society. There are several concrete steps 12 

### that can be taken to significantly decrease energy 13 

### pollutants. 14 

### First, by supporting and funding solar 15 

### energy, which will end the need for smog pollutants 16 

### from coal as an energy source. On my District home 17 

### roof, I have 28 panels -- solar panels, and I am 18 

### producing pollution free endless electric energy. 19 

### Let me repeat that: Pollution free, endless 20 

### electric energy. 21 

### Thanks to federal and city grants, these 22 

### panels, after seven years, are completely paid for.



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### Just think how much cheaper the air we breathe could 2 

### be from an endless power source. Coal companies 3 

### claim that they will lose jobs if less coal is 4 

### produced, but this is not true. Thousands of safer, 5 

### new jobs will be created for coal miners with the 6 

### solar industry. 7 

### It is a fact that the solar industry now 8 

### employs more people than coal mining companies do, 9 

### and its job growth is increasing 20 times faster 10 

### than any other energy industry. Congress and our 11 

### cities and states should actually continue to fund 12 

### and increase tax rebates for solar energy. 13 

### Second, EPA should continue to advocate 14 

### for and require the automobile industry to develop 15 

### vehicles with lower emissions and better mileage. 16 

### The technology is there, but we are not moving fast 17 

### enough. There needs to be a repetitious push and 18 

### education for the American public about the benefits 19 

### of lower emissions. 20 

### And I would love to see the EPA take a 21 

### stronger stand and begin a national education 22 

### program about the benefits of healthier and

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### pollution-free transportation by riding bicycles. 2 

### Let's not forget about the contribution of trees and 3 

### plants in controlling smog pollutants. Our green 4 

### friends have sorted thousands of tons of carbon 5 

### dioxide and other pollutants every day. 6 

### A study of the journal of "Environmental 7 

### Pollution" found that trees save the U.S. economy an 8 

### estimated $7 billion a year in medical costs from 9 

### respiratory illness. The EPA could give out grants 10 

### to plant thousands of trees every year. Hopefully 11 

### the EPA will live up to its Clean Air Act mandate of 12 

### cleaning the air we breathe and challenging selfish, 13 

### greed-motivated interests. The Environmental 14 

### Protection Agency must continue educating all 15 

### Americans about the seriousness of smog pollution 16 

### and global warming. Thank you. 17 

### MS. VIA: I'm Sara Via -- S-a-r-a V-i-a. 18 

### I'm a professor of biology at University of 19 

### Maryland, and I also represent Physicians for Social 20 

### Responsibility. 21 

### I strongly support the proposed ozone rule 22 

### and encourage you to implement the stronger of the



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### possibilities, the 60 part per billion standard. As 2 

### Catherine Thomasson said just a couple of minutes 3 

### ago, there is no safe level for ozone, so we need to 4 

### reduce it as far as we possibly can when we have the 5 

### opportunity to make a new regulation. 6 

### Because ground level ozone results from an 7 

### interaction between nitrous oxide compounds, or NOx, 8 

### and volatile organic compounds, controlling ozone 9 

### requires reducing these two categories of air 10 

### pollutants. The EPA Clean Power Plan is a huge step 11 

### towards reducing NOx and ozone while also curbing 12 

### CO2 and a host of other toxic air pollutants as 13 

### significant co-benefits. 14 

### Nitrous oxide compounds have severe 15 

### adverse health impacts on health that go beyond 16 

### increasing ground level ozone. Nitrous oxide itself 17 

### is directly hazardous, and NOx also contributes to 18 

### the small particulate matter, PM2.5, that can carry 19 

### toxic air pollutants directly into the blood stream. 20 

### Ozone's a major contributor, as you have 21 

### been hearing, to the recent increase in asthma among 22 

### Marylanders, particularly children. It's also well 

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### documented that ozone, nitrous oxide, and PM2.5 from 2 

### coal-fired power plant emissions contribute to a 3 

### variety of other life-threatening respiratory and 4 

### cardiovascular illnesses. 5 

### In Baltimore alone, mortality rates from 6 

### toxic air pollution cited in a study last year, or 7 

### two years ago, from MIT, correspond to the causation 8 

### of approximately 800 extra deaths per year. This is 9 

### 800 of your friends and neighbors in Baltimore could 10 

### die each year from toxic air pollution. This is an 11 

### avoidable tragedy and allowing it to continue is 12 

### really unacceptable. 13 

### The illness and death caused by NOx and 14 

### ozone pollution cause tremendous personal suffering 15 

### every single year that toxic air pollution is not 16 

### reduced. Baltimore has the worst air quality on the 17 

### East Coast, and as you know, was the only urban area 18 

### in the east cited by the EPA as being in moderate 19 

### non-attainment, which doesn't sound that bad, but it 20 

### really is pretty bad. 21 

### So -- and D.C. is close behind with high 22 

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### of Marylanders experience unsafe air every day. 2 

### Now, Maryland, as of a week ago, is moving backwards 3 

### because our new governor, Larry Hogan, has blocked a 4 

### carefully crafted NOx rule that was scheduled to be 5 

### implemented quite soon as one of his first official 6 

### acts. So we need very strong federal regulations 7 

### because we can't always depend on state governments. 8 

### We need everyone working towards this goal. 9 

### Air pollution-related illnesses are 10 

### expensive. They burden the U.S. healthcare system 11 

### and every year they reduce the time children are in 12 

### school and cause worker productivity to decline 13 

### because of missed work days. These social and 14 

### economic costs have real impacts on our economy and 15 

### should be considered by those who make the argument 16 

### that controlling ozone is an economic burden. 17 

### Unfortunately, the problems caused by NOx 18 

### and ozone don't stop with its health impacts. Ozone 19 

### is toxic to plants. It limits photosynthesis. It 20 

### reduces crop yield and compromises the growth and 21 

### health of forests. 22 

### I live in Howard County, which is about 20

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### miles west of Baltimore, and I've lived there for 17 2 

### years and it never occurred to me that the air 3 

### quality there was bad, right, because the wind blows 4 

### from the west. We're west of the bad air region. 5 

### No, Howard County is in that bad air region. This 6 

### summer, I went out in my garden and I noticed 7 

### bronze-colored spots on my bean plants and found out 8 

### that that is ozone damage, and there are those beans 9 

### in my yard dying, and finally it's coming home to me 10 

### that this is also my air that is contaminated, along 11 

### with the other 86 percent of Marylanders. 12 

### The various new standards for toxic air 13 

### pollutants that EPA is crafting under the Clean Air 14 

### Act are synergistic. When we clean up emissions 15 

### from these antiquated coal-fired power plants, we 16 

### reduce NOx, ozone and the dangerous PM2.5, as well 17 

### as eliminating the emissions of the 80 or so other 18 

### poisonous compounds that are emitted from these 19 

### plants. 20 

### The renewable portfolio standards adopted 21 

### in many states add to the synergy because toxic 22 

### emissions from power plants are particularly high on



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### the peak load days because that's when the older and 2 

### more highly emitting power plants tend to be fired 3 

### up. Fortunately, solar is at its best on the hot 4 

### and sunny peak load days that are most problematic 5 

### for ozone production. It's already been documented 6 

### that solar has saved the grid on peak load days in 7 

### California and other places, allowing utilities to 8 

### refrain from putting the highest polluting power 9 

### plants online. 10 

### Given the rapidly accelerating pace of 11 

### solar installations, solar rescue on peak load days 12 

### will soon be commonplace, making the remaining 13 

### outmoded and high emitting coal-fired power plants 14 

### even more obsolete than they are now. 15 

### Thank you very much. 16 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Alexia Portvicky and Rob 17 

### Underwood, followed by Bob Dinneen and Elizabeth 18 

### DeBord. You could speak to the folks at the 19 

### registration desk. That would be great. Thanks. 20 

### Do we have Alexia Portvicky and Rob 21 

### Underwood? Oh, we got Rob. No Alexia? Okay. You 22 

### have the mic to yourself. 

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### MR. UNDERWOOD: All right. Hello. Good 2 

### afternoon. My name is Rob Underwood. I'm director 3 

### of government relations for the Petroleum Marketers 4 

### Association of America. We basically represent all 5 

### the gas station owners across the country, the 6 

### tanker trucks that you see on interstate highways. 7 

### They're all small businesses. They have a contract 8 

### with the major oil companies to sell that particular 9 

### brand of gasoline, but pretty much -- 98 percent of 10 

### the gas stations out there are independently owned 11 

### by small businesses. They're not owned by the 12 

### majors. So when you go pull up at a Chevron 13 

### station, it's not by owned by a major oil company. 14 

### But here, of course, today I'm talking 15 

### about the ozone standards and how it will impact 16 

### gasoline prices, so it's a little bit more of a 17 

### twist than what we've heard before. I'm talking 18 

### more of the economic side and how, if we do move to 19 

### a lower ozone standard, how it will impact small 20 

### business owners and consumers and, of course, gas 21 

### prices. 22 

### First off, let me just say that supplying



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### cleaner gasoline and diesel, they're getting 2 

### cleaner. We've got better equipment, cleaner cars, 3 

### trucks, buses that lead to cleaner air. Emissions 4 

### have significantly been reduced. 5 

### We've embraced ultra low sulfur diesel on 6 

### road. That's 15 parts per million. We've embraced 7 

### that, as well as now we're pushing for a UOST 8 

### mandate for heating oil to lower the sulfur dioxide 9 

### emissions there as well, moving down to 15 ppm for 10 

### heating oil, embraced with a 20 percent bio-diesel 11 

### blend. We are big supporters of that. So just we 12 

### want to -- we want to provide a cleaner product, but 13 

### we want to make sure that, you know, we don't 14 

### increase these prices enough to where it gets too 15 

### out of control and hurts the consumer's pocketbook. 16 

### We've -- we're a little concerned about 17 

### this new proposed standard because, of course, it 18 

### will put an unfair economic burden on small business 19 

### petroleum marketers and consumers. We believe that 20 

### this 75 parts per billion ozone standard is working, 21 

### but, of course, it hasn't been fully implemented 22 

### yet. Therefore, we're asking that you -- until at

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### least -- or EPA should leave the current standard in 2 

### place until at least 85 percent of the counties in 3 

### non-attainment status can comply. 4 

### The economic consequences for a new lower 5 

### ozone standard would be severe, create bottlenecks 6 

### and chaos in the gasoline marketplace. And I'll go 7 

### into a little bit of detail there. When you have 8 

### the first two common areas where you can reduce 9 

### ozone emissions, of course, they require full meta 10 

### gasoline or a lower re-vapor pressure field. Of 11 

### course, that comes with higher gas prices. It costs 12 

### more to make, and because of that and what they're 13 

### currently proposing right now, we're looking at 14 

### around 200 counties nationwide that will be having 15 

### to have these lower RBP standards or reformulated 16 

### gasoline. 17 

### But, of course, before the RFG and the 18 

### lower RBP mandates were adopted during the 19 

### mid-1990s, the logistics of fuel distribution were 20 

### relatively simple. Gasoline was fungal. When one 21 

### area of the country was experiencing a higher 22 

### demand, it was easy to redirect more gasoline from



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### another area to meet it. With the mandate to push 2 

### for RFG and lower RBP fuel, we now have over 30 3 

### boutique fuels in the United States. 4 

### Requiring these multiple types of gasoline 5 

### based on geographic location and by season has all 6 

### but eliminated the fungibility of gasoline in the 7 

### United States today. The logistics of fuel 8 

### distribution has become a nightmare for petroleum 9 

### marketers, particularly when a refinery, a terminal 10 

### or pipeline goes offline for service or due to 11 

### extreme weather events. 12 

### Sometimes marketers are forced to travel 13 

### over 100 -- 100 miles to pick up RFG or lower 14 

### RBP-specific product when conventional fuel is more 15 

### readily available. Furthermore, petroleum marketers 16 

### in non-attainment areas are placed at a competitive 17 

### disadvantage -- competitive disadvantage to 18 

### competitors outside the areas due to supply 19 

### problems, particularly in September when hurricane 20 

### season is at its height. 21 

### Prices in non-attainment areas can 22 

### fluctuate significantly higher than the prices in 

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### the nearby counties that are in attainment. 2 

### Retailers often get blamed for these high prices in 3 

### non-attainment areas, but we have no control over 4 

### that. The State of North Carolina is a perfect 5 

### example. Recently -- actually, May 2014, EPA 6 

### determined that North Carolina's Triad and Triangle 7 

### Counties no longer needed 7 -- 7.8 pound field to 8 

### meet ozone standards and eliminated it. 9 

### They moved the region basically to the one 10 

### standard that all the other counties and the 11 

### surrounding areas were complying with, which, of 12 

### course, was 9-pound gasoline, the conventional 13 

### gasoline out there in most areas of the country. 14 

### And, of course, the North Carolina Department of 15 

### Energy and Natural Resources estimated that the 16 

### relaxation of the rule resulted in cost savings of 17 

### about 7 cents per gallon from June 1st to September 18 

### 15th, for a total savings of more than $18 million 19 

### for the region. And, of course, that goes back into 20 

### the pocketbook of the consumer. 21 

### In summary, the plan to revise the federal 22 

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### prices and job losses to impacted areas without a 2 

### clear -- without a clear benefit to the public. PMA 3 

### urges the EPA not pursue lower ozone standards until 4 

### 85 percent more of the counties actually can comply 5 

### with the current standard. Thank you. 6 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Thank you for your 7 

### comments. 8 

### (Pause) 9 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Okay. Bob -- Bob Dinneen 10 

### and Elizabeth DeBord, followed by Linda Plemons and 11 

### Anne Mellinger-Birdsong. And after those four, 12 

### we're going to take a 10-minute break. 13 

### Okay, Bob Dinneen. 14 

### MR. DINNEEN: Thank you. I'm Bob Dinneen 15 

### with the Renewable Fuels Association. We represent 16 

### the U.S. ethanol industry. My comments today are 17 

### going to be uncharacteristically brief, but perhaps 18 

### a breath of fresh air, because I represent an 19 

### industry that does in fact support the ozone rule, 20 

### and we encourage EPA to promulgate it as it's been 21 

### proposed. 22 

### We think more communities are going to be

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### benefiting from cleaner air. That just makes all 2 

### the more sense. While most of the focus may be on 3 

### stationary source emissions, we believe significant 4 

### progress toward meeting the new ozone standard can 5 

### be gained by communities adopting reformulated 6 

### gasoline. It's a proven program with a track record 7 

### of success and I believe can help to address some of 8 

### the cost concerns that Mr. Underwood just testified 9 

### to because reformulated gasoline has proven to be 10 

### extraordinarily cost effective. 11 

### Ethanol, when added to gasoline, will help 12 

### to reduce exhaust emissions from carbon monoxide, 13 

### hydrocarbons that will form ozone particulates, and 14 

### air toxics. It is a stone-cold winter. Over the 15 

### last five years, ethanol has been between 60 cents 16 

### and 80 cents cheaper than gasoline, so if this 17 

### program can result in more ethanol, more biofuels 18 

### being added to gasoline, displacing petroleum, we 19 

### think the consumer is going to be far better off. 20 

### But this rule also gives the agency an 21 

### opportunity to address an important issue for 22 

### conventional gasoline markets. Simply put, the



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### agency should repeat the one-pound waiver for 10 2 

### percent ethanol blends. The RBP waiver was granted 3 

### to ethanol by EPA in 1988 using statutory authority. 4 

### It was provided because gasoline marketers were 5 

### unable to secure the specially tailored sub-RBP 6 

### blend stocks necessary to market ethanol fuels. 7 

### At the time, EPA also concluded that air 8 

### quality would not be compromised because reductions 9 

### in exhaust-type of carbons and carbon monoxide 10 

### provided an offset to the increase of vapored 11 

### emissions attributable to the higher volatility of 12 

### ethanol blends. Today, however, 10 percent ethanol 13 

### blends are ubiquitous in the U.S. motor fuel market. 14 

### Indeed, refineries regularly produce and ship 15 

### sub-octane blend stocks through the pipeline knowing 16 

### that the products will be blended with ethanol, 17 

### adding the additional octane necessary before 18 

### reaching the consumer. 19 

### Refineries could just as easily ship sub 20 

### RBP blend stocks and eliminate whatever increased 21 

### evaporative VOC emissions result from blending 22 

### ethanol, thus the reduced hydrocarbon, carbon 

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### monoxide and toxic emissions benefits of ethanol 2 

### would be enhanced and consumers could breathe 3 

### easier. 4 

### For the record, I'd like to submit a 5 

### series of letters that we have sent to EPA over the 6 

### past several years on this issue that get far deeper 7 

### into the weeds than this brief statement has. But I 8 

### do think it would be a missed opportunity if EPA 9 

### doesn't take the option of reducing -- eliminating 10 

### the volatility waiver for 10 percent blends in this 11 

### rule. It will improve the tools available to states 12 

### looking to reduce ozone pollution from 13 

### transportation sources. Thank you. 14 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Thank you. And again, 15 

### written material that you want to convey to the 16 

### docket go to the staff at the registration desk. 17 

### MR. DINNEEN: Will do. 18 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Great. Thanks. 19 

### MS. DEBORD: Hi. I'm Elizabeth DeBord. I 20 

### came here today from Charleston, West Virginia. And 21 

### I'm in the accounting industry, so the speaking part 22 

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### me. But I want to thank you for the opportunity to 2 

### come here and speak today. 3 

### I'm here today as a small business woman 4 

### and mother of one regarding lowering the EPA -- 5 

### regarding the EPA's proposed -- to lower the ozone 6 

### standard. I'm proud to call -- I'm sorry. Sorry. 7 

### MS. LANGDON: You're okay. 8 

### MS. DEBORD: I'm very proud to call West 9 

### Virginia home. Our state is known for its beautiful 10 

### mountains, rolling hills, outdoor recreational 11 

### activities. Although I moved around quite a bit as 12 

### a child, I chose to settle and establish a life for 13 

### myself and my son in Charleston. I double majored 14 

### in biology and chemistry as an undergrad, and then 15 

### switched gears and obtained a graduate degree in 16 

### accounting. So my mind is very focused on culling 17 

### through facts and figures to make a decision. 18 

### When I first read about the ozone 19 

### standards and the EPA's desire to lower the 20 

### standard, I actually ignored it and I didn't think 21 

### it would affect me. After all, I have an 22 

### 11-year-old son who's healthy. He's outdoors most

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### of the time, and I never thought this would impact 2 

### me. 3 

### That is until I started to read about the 4 

### potential impacts of lowering the standard and its 5 

### far reaching effects. And to be honest, it's a 6 

### little scary. As a single mother, I only have my 7 

### income and my health insurance coverage to support 8 

### me, and more importantly, my son. West Virginia is 9 

### blessed with clean air today. 10 

### I've reviewed the EPA data and all of our 11 

### counties are currently in attainment of the 75 parts 12 

### per billion standard. Now, I've read that the 13 

### current standard is protective of public health, and 14 

### I agree with that assessment. I've looked at maps 15 

### of the areas that would be in non-attainment if the 16 

### standard were lowered to 65 parts per billion and 17 

### saw that not only would Charleston be in 18 

### non-attainment, but so would several counties in our 19 

### area. 20 

### If it were lowered to 60, the entire 21 

### state, with the exception of two counties, would be 22 

### in non-attainment. I've read about the consequences



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### of it being in non-attainment, and I realize that it 2 

### could severely impact our economy. The problem with 3 

### a lower ozone standard is the fact that it would 4 

### have repercussions across the economy from large 5 

### businesses to small businesses and individuals like 6 

### me. 7 

### In West Virginia in particular, it could 8 

### have a profound impact on our coal, manufacturing, 9 

### oil and natural gas industries and other businesses 10 

### along the supply chain. This regulation, among 11 

### others, could cause job losses, as those industries 12 

### will either face cost increases to install new 13 

### equipment or worse, halt the operations altogether. 14 

### The losses and cost increases could have a ripple 15 

### effect to all the interconnected western union 16 

### businesses which may be faced with increased costs 17 

### and worse, layoffs. 18 

### As an accountant who supports small 19 

### business, a single mother and sole -- sole wage 20 

### earner and healthcare provider for my son, this is a 21 

### major concern for me. I don't only speak for 22 

### myself, but for also many other mothers and fathers 

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### in my area who would be impacted by the standard. 2 

### There are many children who suffer from 3 

### health-related issues, and if the mothers and 4 

### fathers lose their jobs because of this, the health 5 

### insurance would also be gone. So I ask you today to 6 

### please reconsider lowering the standard, to keep the 7 

### current standard at 75 parts per billion, and I want 8 

### to thank you for your time and listening to my 9 

### testimony today. It was terrible, but thank you. 10 

### MR. DEMOCKER: All right. Thank you very 11 

### much. And just for the benefit of the court 12 

### reporter, I just want to make sure it's D-i-n-e-e-n, 13 

### correct? 14 

### MR. DINNEEN: Two Ns and two Es. 15 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Two Ns and two Es. Okay. 16 

### And Elizabeth DeBord -- D-e-B-o-r-d? 17 

### MS. DEBORD: Yes, sir. 18 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Okay. All right. Great. 19 

### Thank you very much. 20 

### MR. DINNEEN: Thank you. 21 

### MR. DEMOCKER: All right. And the last 22 

### two before our 10-minute break are Linda Plemons and



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### Anne Mellinger-Birdsong. Ms. Plemons. 2 

### MS. PLEMONS BUECHLER: Good afternoon. 3 

### MR. DEMOCKER: If you could pull the mic 4 

### -- at least point it toward you. It's kind of a 5 

### directional mic, so, that's great. Thank you. 6 

### MS. PLEMONS BUECHLER: For the record, my 7 

### name is Linda Plemons Buechler, and I appreciate the 8 

### opportunity to speak to you today regarding the 9 

### proposed ozone standard. I'm a single mother of a 10 

### son who's a freshman at West Virginia University, 11 

### home of the Mountaineers. I'm proud to say he just 12 

### made the Dean's List. 13 

### I'm currently a sales executive with a 14 

### printing company in Charleston, West Virginia, and 15 

### prior to that I've held the position of executive 16 

### director of the Independent Insurance Agents, the 17 

### Soft Drink Association, the Hotel-Motel Association, 18 

### the West Virginia Safety Council, and the Nurses 19 

### Association. 20 

### As a single mom and a leader with the 21 

### associations, I have long advocated for issues that 22 

### I feel are important. And lowering the curtain --

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### current ozone standard is one of them. I'm also 2 

### proud to call West Virginia my home. I've lived 3 

### there my whole life. I love West Virginia because 4 

### both my son and I are outdoor -- avid outdoorsmen. 5 

### We ski, bike, whitewater raft. I would never 6 

### consider the areas where we ski, hike, fish to have 7 

### poor air quality. 8 

### Then I read about the governor's desire to 9 

### lower the current ozone standard of 75 parts per 10 

### billion, and I saw the map of West Virginia if the 11 

### standard were lowered to 65 per billion, or worse, 12 

### to 60 per billion. I was surprised by the number of 13 

### locations of the areas that -- around in our area 14 

### that would be out of the attainment at 65 parts per 15 

### billion, and then even more surprised at the areas 16 

### that would be considered out of attainment at 60 17 

### parts per billion. Many areas were what I consider 18 

### absolutely pristine. How could you possibly reduce 19 

### the ozone levels in these areas? 20 

### I was not surprised, however, to learn 21 

### that the entire State of West Virginia today is 22 

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### billion. To me, this level is indicative of healthy 2 

### air, and if all areas of the country were able to 3 

### attain this standard, we could be protective of 4 

### public health. 5 

### Then I read about the potential widespread 6 

### impacts if the standard were lowered, and I felt 7 

### that I had to come here to testify. The National 8 

### Association of Manufacturers, a group with whom I'm 9 

### well acquainted and respect, has indicated that the 10 

### lowering of these standards could be the costliest 11 

### regulation in history, and I can see their point. I 12 

### know that business in multiple sectors across West 13 

### Virginia have already invested in pollution control 14 

### measures to meet not just existing ozone standards, 15 

### but other government regulations to keep our 16 

### environment clean. 17 

### Even the printing company that I work with 18 

### has put controls in place. My concern is that if 19 

### further regulations are put into place, then these 20 

### businesses will have to invest even more in 21 

### controls. For large corporations, those investments 22 

### will trickle down into higher costs for everyone, 

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### and for many small businesses, such as the printers 2 

### and the bakers and the auto-body shops, farmers and 3 

### others. 4 

### Those investments may be prohibitively 5 

### expensive. Thus, at that point, what will we do? 6 

### Higher costs and job cuts, those are major concerns 7 

### for me. I'm a single mom. My son still has three 8 

### more years of college. I need to save for 9 

### retirement and I'm the sole source of healthcare 10 

### insurance. 11 

### I'm fortunate that I'm currently healthy 12 

### and very proud to say I'm 63. What about those 13 

### families who could also be placed with layoffs and 14 

### healthcare coverage and have loved ones with 15 

### critical healthcare issues? These are great risks 16 

### for American families for a standard which I do not 17 

### believe needs to be changed at this time. My heart 18 

### breaks to hear of people who are suffering from 19 

### chronic respiratory problems, especially when it 20 

### involves those are at least able to help themselves. 21 

### I do believe that clean air is a benefit. 22 

### My question is, is 75 parts per billion really



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### unhealthy and do we really need to lower the ozone 2 

### standard when its negative impact is so widespread? 3 

### What if the lower ozone standard unintentionally 4 

### ends up actually hurting those individuals that it's 5 

### intended to help? I stand here today to ask you to 6 

### reconsider lowering the ozone standard at this time, 7 

### and to please keep it at the current standard. 8 

### Our economy is recovering. Areas across 9 

### the country are in attainment of 75 parts per 10 

### billion. Even our president in his State of the 11 

### Union speech sounds optimistic about our future. I 12 

### echo his sentiments. I appreciate this opportunity 13 

### to speak to you today on something I believe. Thank 14 

### you. 15 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Maybe you could spell your 16 

### name for the court reporter. That would be great. 17 

### Yours is P-l-e-m-o-n-s; is that right? 18 

### MS. PLEMONS BUECHLER: Yes. 19 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Okay. Great. Thank you. 20 

### MS. MELLINGER-BIRDSONG: Hi. My name is 21 

### Anne Mellinger-Birdsong. M-e-l-l-i-n-g-e-r dash 22 

### B-i-r-d-s-o-n-g. I am a pediatrician with a

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### Master's in Public Health. I've worked at city, 2 

### state and federal health agencies, a Native American 3 

### health center, and I'm on the leadership board of 4 

### Mothers and Others for Clean Air, a program of the 5 

### American Lung Association of the Southeast. 6 

### I am also the mother of two children. I'm 7 

### speaking today as a pediatrician and as a parent in 8 

### support of lowering the ozone standard. In fact, I 9 

### would support a more protective standard of 60 parts 10 

### per billion as recommended by the CASAC in June. I 11 

### will start off speaking as a parent. We live in 12 

### Atlanta. Every summer we have numerous code orange 13 

### days, often several code red days, and sometimes a 14 

### code purple day, usually due to ozone. 15 

### On each of these days, I have to warn my 16 

### children not to play outside in the afternoon or 17 

### evening. We have to decide about going to the pool 18 

### or not, which seems nice on a hot day, but you can't 19 

### do it if there's ozone and you're breathing a lot 20 

### swimming. I have to decide whether to let our 21 

### children -- our teenager go to afternoon or evening 22 

### sports practice and breathe air that is harmful. I



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### have to think about working with the school or 2 

### sports club about the harmful effects of ozone and 3 

### suggest that perhaps they should shift their 4 

### practice times to times of the day that are 5 

### healthier. 6 

### I will now move to the scientific part of 7 

### my testimony. I support the proposed new standard, 8 

### which is better than the previous standard of 75 9 

### parts per billion. In fact, I would support an even 10 

### lower standard, which would be much better for 11 

### childrens' health. 12 

### Ozone is a respiratory irritant. As noted 13 

### in the AAP policy statement on air pollution, it 14 

### causes respiratory symptoms in children and infants, 15 

### increased asthma attacks, increased emergency 16 

### visits, increased hospitalizations and school 17 

### absenteeism. Also, children are more vulnerable 18 

### than adults to air pollution because they breathe 19 

### more air for their body weight. They spend more 20 

### time outside, and when they are outside, they are 21 

### more active. 22 

### All children are vulnerable to the effects 

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### of ozone, and especially children with asthma or 2 

### other respiratory diseases. Children do not choose 3 

### where they live, where they go to school, where 4 

### their playgrounds or located, or whether the air 5 

### they breathe has harmful levels of ozone. They 6 

### depend on the adults in their lives to make these 7 

### decisions. We as parents and as a society are the 8 

### ones who make these decisions for them. Therefore, 9 

### we have the duty to set standards that protect all 10 

### children. 11 

### I can't in five minutes review the many 12 

### studies of ozone that have been conducted, so I'll 13 

### highlight some of the ones that were from Atlanta. 14 

### Peel and co-authors found that for every 25 part per 15 

### billion increase in ozone, there was a two and a 16 

### half percent increase in emergency visits for 17 

### respiratory symptoms. This effect persisted in 18 

### multi-pollutant models. 19 

### Tolbert and co-authors found an 20 

### association between pediatric asthma emergency 21 

### visits and ozone in both single and multi-pollutant 22 

### models. They also found a dose response effect



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### which provides compelling evidence of causation. 2 

### Friedman and co-authors, in a study about the 3 

### effects of traffic changes during the '96 Olympics 4 

### in Atlanta, found that traffic counts decreased by 5 

### 22 percent, one-hour peak ozone decreased by 28 6 

### percent; pediatric asthma events decreased by 11 7 

### percent for emergency visits, by 19 percent in the 8 

### hospital discharge database, and by 40 percent in 9 

### the Medicaid claims database. The number of 10 

### non-asthma events in the same databases remained the 11 

### same during the Olympics, showing that the reduction 12 

### was specifically for asthma and that reducing ozone 13 

### does indeed help. 14 

### In summary, there is clear evidence that 15 

### the current eight-hour standard is inadequate to 16 

### protect public health and that reducing ozone 17 

### exposure provides clear health benefits. The CASAC 18 

### recommended an ozone level of 60 to 70 parts per 19 

### billion, pointing out that the standard of 60 20 

### provides the best level of protection as required 21 

### under the Clean Air Act. 22 

### Please adopt the lowest ozone standard

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### possible to provide the greatest protection for all 2 

### children. Thank you. 3 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Thank you. Well, we 4 

### appreciate both your comments. We also appreciate 5 

### everyone's patience while we take a 10-minute break. 6 

### And when we come back, we'll have Collin Rees, Rev. 7 

### Cizik, Lolita Mancheno-Smoak, and Doug Aus. 8 

### So we'll be back in 10 minutes. Thank 9 

### you. 10 

### (A brief recess was taken.) 11 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Sorry for the delay in 12 

### getting started again. We've actually just worked 13 

### out logistics. So after these four speakers, we're 14 

### going to merge the two hearings rooms, and if you're 15 

### scheduled to speak here, you'll now be speaking over 16 

### there. But we'll make sure your cards get in the 17 

### cue for the -- for the hearing over there in the 18 

### other room. 19 

### Here we have Collin Rees and Rev. Cizik, 20 

### followed by Lolita Mancheno-Smoak and Doug Aus. So 21 

### if we can have Rev. Cizik and Collin Rees we will 22 

### reconvene. And please remember to spell your name



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### for the benefit of the court reporter. 2 

### Okay. Do we know which one you are? 3 

### REV. CIZIK: Good afternoon. My name is 4 

### Richard Cizik. That's spelled C-i-z-i-k. I speak 5 

### today in my capacity as the president of a national 6 

### non-profit called New Evangelical Partnership for 7 

### the Common Good, as an ordained evangelical 8 

### minister, and as having served as VP of governmental 9 

### affairs of the National Association of Evangelical 10 

### for 10 years, and as a citizen activist from the 11 

### Commonwealth of Virginia. 12 

### Most importantly though, I speak as a 13 

### father of a son, John, now 21, a 6-foot-5 healthy 14 

### young man with a bright future. Eight years ago, 15 

### however, he was diagnosed with severe asthma. On 16 

### one occasion before we really understand what was 17 

### happening, he awoke one morning unable to breathe. 18 

### "Dad, Mom, I can't breathe." It's the kind of 19 

### frightening experience a parent never forgets. 20 

### Fortunately, we got him to the doctor and in the 21 

### exam that would both diagnose his actual condition 22 

### and prescribe the medicine and inhaler that he still 

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### needs on bad air days. 2 

### So as a father and minister and citizen, 3 

### I'm here to urge you to reduce the ozone pollution 4 

### standards which produce thousands of cases of asthma 5 

### and other respiratory illness. And we know from the 6 

### annual state of the air report by the American Lung 7 

### Association that this area that I live in, the 8 

### Washington/Baltimore area, ranks eighth among 277 9 

### metropolitan areas in the U.S. for the highest ozone 10 

### days. So this is real. 11 

### Let me also say, I'm here to make three 12 

### points. The first is this EPA mandate. Let's look 13 

### at it. It's to set a vision for a healthy American 14 

### society. And with the standards that are to be 15 

### announced in October 2015, the EPA has the 16 

### opportunity to protect millions of Americans from 17 

### dirty air and unnecessary illness. 18 

### Look, the smog pollution standard, which 19 

### is set and enforced by the EPA as the federal 20 

### benchmark, was last updated in 2008. And as I 21 

### understand it, that year the Bush Administration 22 

### rejected the recommendations of professionals,



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### expert scientists, medical health people and others 2 

### who warned that the then current 75 parts per 3 

### billion was insufficient to protect public health. 4 

### This was back in 2008, and since then, scientists 5 

### have only confirmed, as I just heard previously 6 

### stated by a pediatrician who cited many studies to 7 

### produce evidence, that to adequately protect public 8 

### health, the smog standards should be set no higher 9 

### than 60 ppb. This is what I believe. 10 

### So EPA's role in our society is to set 11 

### that vision, and I believe you're doing that. 12 

### Number two, a vision without a strategy is what I 13 

### call a hallucination, and we are not hallucinating 14 

### about these problems, real problems, nor about the 15 

### solutions. I just happen to think that all the 16 

### evidence testified to the fact that a 60 ppb as the 17 

### standard is consistent with protecting public 18 

### health, and if it is set according to the evidence I 19 

### read, roughly 1.8 million asthma attacks, 1.9 20 

### million missed school days, and 6,400 premature 21 

### deaths could be saved. 22 

### And so secondly, strategy. Really

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### important. You'd be violating your agency mandate 2 

### if you didn't do this. Leadership is about breaking 3 

### old paradigms, seeing where we are stuck and 4 

### providing ways to get unstuck. I happen to believe 5 

### that we cannot count on our elected public officials 6 

### on Capitol Hill to solve these problems. Common 7 

### good must trump special interests. It's really 8 

### important. 9 

### And so finally, let me say on the tactics, 10 

### if the first is vision and the second is the 11 

### strategy, tactics -- the EPA should act boldly in 12 

### the face of opposition. We once had to ask 13 

### ourselves as a nation whether a company could only 14 

### remain profitable by releasing toxic chemicals 15 

### should be allowed to exist. We answered no. We 16 

### once had to ask ourselves would a company could only 17 

### remain profitable by employing child labor should be 18 

### allowed to exist. We said no. We once had to ask 19 

### ourselves whether a company could only remain 20 

### profitable by paying women too little, pushing 21 

### workers too hard or maintaining a dangerous 22 

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### And so, here we are today. Do we as a 2 

### society agree that the most vulnerable members, that 3 

### is children and the elderly, should get sick and 4 

### possibly die so polluters can remain more 5 

### profitable? Absolutely not. But that is exactly, 6 

### if you read between the lines as I do, at least, in 7 

### my opinion, what the opposition has said. So let's 8 

### be clear about the consequences of corporate 9 

### takeover of our democracy. It affects every aspect 10 

### of our lives, the water we drink, not least of all, 11 

### the air we breathe. 12 

### So in conclusion, let me simply say that 13 

### if want to know -- if politicians want to know which 14 

### way the wind is blowing, it's our responsibility to 15 

### change the direction of the wind. And it looks like 16 

### right now on Capitol Hill the wind is blowing the 17 

### wrong direction. But do not believe it. Do not 18 

### concede it. You and what you are doing, by vision, 19 

### strategy and tactics, is what is right, and I simply 20 

### say, take this action. Do not -- do not be 21 

### deterred. Press on. 22 

### And I simply, lastly want to say that what 

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### you and your administrator, Gina McCarthy, are doing 2 

### is now important. It's not just medically 3 

### important. It's not just scientifically important. 4 

### But it is morally important, morally important, 5 

### because you're talking about matters most deeply 6 

### felt by all of us Americans, our very lives. So 7 

### thank you very much. 8 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Thank you. All right, last 9 

### two speakers before we adjourn this session and 10 

### consolidate it into the other hearing room are Doug 11 

### Aus and Lolita Mancheno-Smoak, and I hope I've 12 

### pronounced that right. 13 

### MR. AUS: Yes. 14 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Any written materials go to 15 

### the staff at the registration desk. 16 

### MR. AUS: Okay. 17 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Just make sure that they 18 

### get it entered. You can deliver it after your 19 

### comments. 20 

### MR. AUS: Okay. 21 

### MR. DEMOCKER: By order of the card, 22 

### you're up next.



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### MR. AUS: My name is Doug Aus. I'm an 2 

### asthma sufferer from Towson, Maryland. I brought my 3 

### asthma inhaler with me today. About two and a half 4 

### years ago, I worked in the summer in downtown 5 

### Baltimore where I was exposed to dirty air every 6 

### day. While I was there, I experienced shortness of 7 

### breath from asthma due to the bad air. I had a very 8 

### painful breathing test administered by a specialist, 9 

### a personal physician in Baltimore. 10 

### Since my asthma flared up in the summer, 11 

### it is likely due in part to smog pollution from 12 

### coal-fired power plants. Maryland has three coal 13 

### plants on the Chesapeake Bay, and only one of these, 14 

### the Brandon Shores plant in Anne Arundel County, has 15 

### modern pollution controls that prevent the emissions 16 

### from these plants from mixing with sunlight to form 17 

### smog. 18 

### The Crane and Wagner plants do not have 19 

### these controls and emit smog and foreign pollution 20 

### that often drips into Baltimore, which is the main 21 

### economic center of Maryland, as it has several 22 

### hundred thousand daytime workers, over 2.5 million

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### metropolitan residents, and draws many thousands of 2 

### visitors every year. 3 

### As 10 percent of American children miss 4 

### school due to asthma, it is easy for me to see that 5 

### asthma-related costs alone in the Baltimore area are 6 

### likely in the range of 50 to 100 million dollars 7 

### annually. Asthma-related costs include, but are not 8 

### limited to, missed days from school or work, 9 

### doctor's visits, and prescriptions from medicine or 10 

### inhalers. These costs are for both -- for both 11 

### children and adult sufferers of asthma. 12 

### This seems to be one thing slowing down 13 

### economic growth in Baltimore, a city where the 14 

### biggest construction projects over the past 10 years 15 

### have been hospital expansions. Maryland's new 16 

### governor, Larry Hogan, delayed implementation of 17 

### stricter smog rules within the state. He may forget 18 

### them altogether. 19 

### When states do not act, the Environmental 20 

### Protection Agency must to protect people's health 21 

### from industrial pollutants. Therefore, the current 22 

### maximum allowable standard of 75 parts per billion



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### of smog is too high and should be lowered to 60 2 

### parts per billion. This would force utilities to 3 

### clean up the dirtiest coal plants and retire them. 4 

### MR. DEMOCKER: And your last name is 5 

### spelled A-u-s; is that correct? 6 

### MR. AUS: Yes. 7 

### MR. DEMOCKER: Thank you. All right, 8 

### again, written materials can go to the staff at the 9 

### registration desk. 10 

### MR. AUS: Okay. 11 

### MR. DEMOCKER: And they will get it into 12 

### the docket. Thank you. All right. 13 

### DR. MANCHENO-SMOAK: Good afternoon. 14 

### Thank you for allowing me to speak to you today 15 

### about the EPA's proposal to lower the ozone 16 

### standard. My name is Dr. Lolita Mancheno-Smoak, 17 

### spelled L-o-l-i-t-a M-a-n-c-h-e-n-o -- hyphen -- 18 

### Smoak -- S-m-o-a-k. 19 

### I have over 30 years of work experience in 20 

### manufacturing information technology, human 21 

### resources, quality and program management, and I was 22 

### once -- held a position of deputy chief of staff for 

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### information services for the special inspector 2 

### general for Iraq reconstruction. I've held various 3 

### executive positions at the United States Postal 4 

### Service and in private sector, and I'm also faculty 5 

### at the University of Phoenix. 6 

### Most importantly, I am a wife, a 7 

### grandmother, a daughter, a small business owner, and 8 

### a strong advocate for the Hispanic community within 9 

### Northern Virginia. And I come to you with this 10 

### combined experience to speak on behalf of the ozone 11 

### standards. I'm very sensitive to public health 12 

### concerns, with a father that suffers from pulmonary 13 

### disease. I moved him from the Bronx to Northern 14 

### Virginia, both to provide a healthier environment, 15 

### to be closer to him, so I can care for him. 16 

### Having grown up in New York City myself, I 17 

### understand the impact of air quality on health, but 18 

### also realize that there are other factors that 19 

### contribute to pulmonary respiratory problems. This 20 

### does not diminish the concerns of other families 21 

### that are experiencing problems similar to my 22 

### father's, because I witness the fear of losing the



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### breath of life daily. It is not easy. 2 

### However, through my years of experience 3 

### working in the public and private sector 4 

### domestically and internationally, I also believe 5 

### that we must have a balanced approach when setting 6 

### public policy, because the effects of these policies 7 

### are widespread and long lasting. I'm here today as 8 

### a Virginian and a member of the Hispanic community 9 

### to ask that EPA take other perspectives into account 10 

### before lowering the current ozone standards from 75 11 

### parts per billion. 12 

### I believe the current 75 parts per billion 13 

### standard is working and should not be changed. It 14 

### is important that Americans be able to live in areas 15 

### where they are able to breathe clean air, and EPA 16 

### set a standard of 75 parts per billion in 2008 that 17 

### is providing just that. I live in Northern 18 

### Virginia, which is meeting the standard, even though 19 

### marginally. 20 

### I look at my father, who moved from the 21 

### Bronx, where ozone levels are much higher than this 22 

### area, and it has helped him. Grant it, there are

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### many other factors that impact his respiratory 2 

### problems. But cleaner air has made a positive 3 

### impact. Articles I have read have also concurred 4 

### that this current standard is protective of public 5 

### health, so I question why it needs to be lowered and 6 

### am concerned about the impact if it is lowered. 7 

### Former Virginia Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling 8 

### recently published an op-ed that described the 9 

### potential impact of lowering the ozone standards in 10 

### Virginia. He cites a recent study from NERA 11 

### Economic Consulting that estimates, and I quote, 12 

### "New ozone regulations could cost Virginia billions 13 

### of dollars in gross state product between 2017 and 14 

### 2040, and cost the loss of tens of thousands of jobs 15 

### a year." 16 

### That's tens of thousands of jobs at a time 17 

### where Virginia is just beginning to see the economic 18 

### losses directly attributable to sequestration. This 19 

### past Tuesday, Norfolk Southern announced it was 20 

### closing its Roanoke office with an expected job loss 21 

### of 500 to that area. These jobs used to support 22 

### coal industry jobs until EPA regulations cooked --



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### kicked into full effect. And in Northern Virginia, 2 

### we're still struggling to recover from a national 3 

### recession and federal budget cuts. Thus, a federal 4 

### policy that could cause further economic harm, such 5 

### as these lower standards, would only add insult to 6 

### injury. 7 

### I have read the views of the Hispanic 8 

### community is disproportionally impacted by ozones 9 

### since they may live in urban settings. However, I 10 

### believe the Hispanic community is at 11 

### disproportionally greater risk if the ozone level 12 

### were lowered because they work in industries that 13 

### could be impacted the most -- agriculture, 14 

### manufacturing, oil and natural gas development, 15 

### construction, et cetera, as well as the small 16 

### businesses along the supply chain. They could 17 

### further suffer from increased costs and job losses, 18 

### with job losses, the elimination of healthcare 19 

### coverage. 20 

### I ask you today to please keep the current 21 

### ozone standard and not further reduce it. The 22 

### unintended repercussions are far reaching to 

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### families in Northern Virginia, Virginia, to the 2 

### Hispanic community and Americans across the nation. 3 

### Thank you again for the privilege of 4 

### speaking with you. 5 

### MR. DEMOCKER: All right. Thank you for 6 

### your comments. On behalf of myself, my fellow 7 

### panelists in the agency, thank you for coming today. 8 

### If you expected to speak and have not yet had the 9 

### opportunity, we are consolidating over into the 10 

### other hearing room, so you just want to touch base 11 

### with the staff at the registration desk to make sure 12 

### that you're in the cue. If you want to speak but 13 

### haven't yet registered, again, also please see the 14 

### staff at the registration desk. 15 

### And with that, this session is adjourned, 16 

### and thank you very much. 17 

### (Whereupon, at 4:19 p.m., the hearing was 18 

### adjourned.) 19 20 21 22



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1 CERTIFICATE OF NOTARY PUBLIC 2 I, JENNIFER M. O'CONNOR, hereby certify that I 3 am a Notary Public of the District of Columbia; that 4 in pursuance of my duties as such, I attended the 5 proceedings in the foregoing matter and reported all 6 of the proceedings and testimony taken therein; and 7 that the foregoing is a full, true and correct 8 transcript of the proceedings for which I reported. 9 10

__________________________________________ Jennifer M. O'Connor 11 Notary Public in and for the District of Columbia 12 My Commission Expires on February 14, 2015 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22

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