IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON

DIVISION II

STATE OF WASHINGTON, No. 47736-0-II

Respondent,

v.

ALEXANDER PAUL ANDREW KNIGHT, UNPUBLISHED OPINION

Appellant.

JOHANSON, J. — Alexander Knight appeals his jury trial conviction for one count of first 

degree child molestation. Because the trial court properly found sufficient indicia of reliability to 

admit the victim’s statements and because the State presented sufficient evidence for a rational 

jury to find Knight had sexual contact with the victim, we reject Knight’s contrary arguments, and 

we affirm the conviction.

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FACTS

I. BACKGROUND FACTS

In June 2014, nine-year-old M.P.1 went to play with her friend and neighbor, K.K. Knight, 

who is related to K.K., was at K.K.’s home during the visit.2 After M.P. returned home, Knight 

and K.K. appeared at M.P.’s door to ask Truly P., M.P.’s mother, if M.P. was home. They left 

when M.P. refused to come to the door. M.P. then told Truly that Knight had touched her buttocks 

and tried to kiss her while she was at K.K.’s home that day. M.P. rubbed her hand up and down 

between her buttocks to show her mother what happened. M.P. later described Knight’s hand as 

rubbing closer and closer to her “perineum,” the “flap of skin” between “your private area and 

your butt.” 6 Report of Proceedings (RP) at 678. As it went closer to her perineum, Knight’s hand 

also went deeper. 

Truly called 911 and brought M.P. to a police station where Detectives Julie Carpenter and 

Deanna Watkins interviewed M.P. The State charged Knight with first degree child molestation. 

II. RYAN3 HEARING

Before trial, the State moved to admit into evidence M.P.’s statements to her mother and 

the detectives describing the sexual contact. At the hearing, M.P., her mother, and the detectives 

 

1 We use initials instead of names for victims of sex crimes to protect their privacy. Gen. Order 

2011-1 of Division II, In re Use of Initials or Pseudonyms for Child Witnesses in Sex Crime Cases

(Wash. Ct. App.), http://www.courts.wa.gov/appellate_trial_courts. Also, because of the nature 

of this case, some confidentiality is appropriate. Accordingly, the last name of M.P.’s mother will 

not be used in the body of this opinion.

2 Knight is more than 19 years older than M.P. 

3

State v. Ryan, 103 Wn.2d 165, 691 P.2d 197 (1984).
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testified. M.P. testified that she knew the difference between the truth and a lie and recounted 

what she told her mother and the detectives. She told the court that Knight touched “[her] behind” 

and asked her “to give him a kiss.” 1 RP at 26. Knight limited his cross-examination of M.P. to 

a series of questions attempting to determine whether M.P.’s answers had been coached. 

Truly testified that M.P. sat quietly when she returned home from K.K.’s house until 

Knight, accompanied by K.K., knocked on Truly’s door about 45 minutes later. When M.P. heard 

Knight’s voice, M.P. “curled up” and seemed stressed. 1 RP at 21. Knight inquired if M.P. was 

home so that K.K. could ask her a question. Truly asked M.P. twice if she wanted to go outside, 

but M.P refused. After Knight left, Truly asked M.P. what was wrong, but M.P. did not want to 

talk and said she was “‘scared.’” 1 RP at 18. M.P. eventually told her mother that Knight had 

“‘touched [her] butt’” and “‘tried to kiss [her],’” and M.P. ran her hand “up and down the crack of 

her bottom” to show her mother how Knight touched her. 1 RP at 18.

Detectives Watkins and Carpenter each testified that they had been trained to interview 

young children without asking suggestive questions. When the detectives interviewed M.P., they 

had ensured that M.P. knew what a lie was and the importance of telling the truth and not guessing. 

The trial court listened to the recording of M.P.’s interview. During the interview, M.P. 

told the detectives that while K.K.’s father went to the store that day, Knight had grabbed her and 

tickled her roughly. Knight put her on his lap and rubbed his hand “up and down [her] butt” over 

her clothes. Ex. 2 at 13. As Knight touched M.P., his hand neared her “perineum.”4 Ex. 2 at 21. 

 

4 M.P. showed the detectives how Knight touched her. Detective Carpenter described the motion 

that M.P. demonstrated as a “cupping” or “spooning motion with [M.P.’s] full hand” that went 

“back and forth.” 1 RP at 45.
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The rubbing made her feel “weird”; it lasted for about 10 seconds. Ex. 2 at 17. Then Knight turned 

M.P. around and told her to kiss him. M.P. stood up instead. Knight told her not to tell anyone or 

he would get into trouble. When K.K.’s father returned home, M.P. left. 

Knight challenged the admission of a statement that M.P. made to the detectives for lack 

of spontaneity. Knight argued that Detective Watkins’s question of whether Knight had told M.P. 

to keep the incident a secret suggested M.P.’s answer: that Knight told her that he would get into 

trouble if she told anyone. Knight also noted a “suggestion” that M.P. kissed Knight, but said that 

he “[did not] know” if that suggestion amounted to M.P.’s having a motive to lie. 1 RP at 96. 

Knight agreed that M.P. was “clearly competent” to be a witness. 1 RP at 94.

The trial court ruled that the statements M.P. made to her mother and the detectives had a 

“fairly high level of indicia of reliability.” 1 RP at 109. The trial court determined that there was 

no motive for M.P. to lie and there was no reason to question M.P.’s credibility or character. The 

statements were consistent with M.P.’s testimony at the hearing, were made freshly after the 

incident, and were not suggested by the detectives’ questioning. The trial court found M.P. 

“obvious[ly]” competent and admitted the statements. 1 RP at 108.

III. TRIAL

Knight was tried in April 2015.5 M.P.’s neighbor, Brandy Jennings; Truly; M.P.; and 

Detectives Watkins and Carpenter testified for the State. Jennings testified that on the day M.P. 

went to K.K.’s house, Jennings watched K.K. run back to Truly’s residence. Knight called after 

M.P. to try to talk to her. M.P. paused for only a few seconds before she continued inside. The 

 

5 Knight’s first trial resulted in a mistrial. 
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interaction seemed strange to Jennings. Truly, M.P., and the detectives testified consistently with 

their statements at the Ryan hearing. Truly added that M.P. had come home unusually early from 

K.K.’s that day. The jury heard the recording of the detectives’ interview of M.P. 

At the close of the State’s case, Knight moved for dismissal based on the State’s failure to 

prove an element of child molestation—that there was sexual contact. The trial court denied the 

motion because of the evidence that Knight rubbed M.P. closer and closer to her perineum and that 

Knight requested that M.P. kiss him. 

Knight testified that he never touched M.P.’s bottom and that M.P. kissed him on the lips 

while he was playing with her and K.K. Knight said he immediately reprimanded M.P. He denied 

going outside to speak to M.P. after she left. Knight claimed that he and K.K. went to M.P.’s 

house to ask her if she wanted to come to the park with them. 

The jury found Knight guilty of first degree child molestation. Knight appeals, seeking 

reversal of his conviction. 

ANALYSIS

I. CHILD HEARSAY EXCEPTION

A. M.P.’S STATEMENTS WERE PROPERLY ADMITTED

Knight claims that the trial court improperly admitted into evidence, under RCW 

9A.44.120 and State v. Ryan, 103 Wn.2d 165, 691 P.2d 197 (1984), M.P.’s statements to her 

mother and the detectives. We disagree.

We review the trial court’s decision to admit child hearsay statements under RCW 

9A.44.120 for abuse of discretion. State v. C.J., 148 Wn.2d 672, 686, 63 P.3d 765 (2003). “A 

trial court abuses its discretion only when its decision is manifestly unreasonable or is based on 
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untenable reasons or grounds.” C.J., 148 Wn.2d at 686 (citing State v. Stenson, 132 Wn.2d 668, 

701, 940 P.2d 1239 (1997)). It is the trial judge who is best able to see the witness while she 

testifies, notice her manner, and consider her capacity and intelligence. State v. Allen, 70 Wn.2d 

690, 692, 424 P.2d 1021 (1967). Therefore, the trial court is in the best position to make credibility 

determinations.

RCW 9A.44.120 allows the admission of an otherwise inadmissible statement made by a 

child under the age of 10 describing “any act of sexual contact performed . . . on the child” if the 

child testifies at the criminal proceedings. The court must find that the “time, content, and 

circumstances of the statement provide sufficient indicia of reliability.” RCW 9A.44.120(1). Ryan

provides nine factors to guide the court’s analysis in assessing the reliability of the statement at 

the time of its making. 103 Wn.2d at 175-76. The Ryan factors are the following: 

“(1) [W]hether there is an apparent motive to lie; (2) the general character of the 

declarant; (3) whether more than one person heard the statements; (4) whether the 

statements were made spontaneously; . . . (5) the timing of the declaration and the 

relationship between the declarant and the witness”[;] . . . [(6)] the [lack of any]

express assertion about past fact[; (7) whether] cross examination could not show 

the declarant’s lack of knowledge[; (8) whether] the possibility of the declarant’s 

faulty recollection is remote[; and (9) whether] the circumstances surrounding the 

statement . . . are such that there is no reason to suppose the declarant 

misrepresented defendant’s involvement. 

103 Wn.2d at 175-76 (quoting State v. Parris, 98 Wn.2d 140, 146, 654 P.2d 77 (1982); citing 

Dutton v. Evans, 400 U.S. 74, 88-89, 91 S. Ct. 210, 27 L. Ed. 2d 213 (1970)). 

Not every factor needs to be met for a statement to be sufficiently reliable; the factors need 

only be “‘substantially met.’” State v. Woods, 154 Wn.2d 613, 623-24, 114 P.3d 1174 (2005) 

(quoting State v. Swan, 114 Wn.2d 613, 652, 790 P.2d 610 (1990)). 

Knight challenges the admissibility of the statements under seven of the nine Ryan factors. 
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1. APPARENT MOTIVE TO LIE

Knight challenges the first factor—apparent motive to lie. He argues that he reprimanded 

M.P. for kissing him and that this reprimand motivated her to fabricate a story placing the blame 

on Knight. But at the Ryan hearing, Knight did not testify or otherwise offer his version of events. 

Although there was a “suggestion” that M.P. had kissed Knight, Knight never developed that 

suggestion at the Ryan hearing. 

The trial court found no motive to lie because at the time of the incident, there was no 

indication that M.P. had any animosity toward Knight. The trial court did not abuse its discretion 

by finding this factor favored admissibility.

2. DECLARANT’S GENERAL CHARACTER

Knight challenges the second factor—the declarant’s general character. He argues that 

“the record suggests” that M.P. was vague or could not recall some details. Am. Br. of Appellant 

at 17. But he does not reference any particular portion of M.P.’s testimony and at the Ryan hearing, 

Knight’s counsel made no argument about this factor. Because Knight fails to make more than a 

conclusory argument, unsupported by citation to the record or legal authority, and he failed to raise 

the challenge below, his argument fails. 

3. WHETHER MULTIPLE PEOPLE HEARD THE STATEMENTS

Knight challenges the third factor—whether multiple people heard the statements. He 

argues that this factor weighs against admission. Knight admits that M.P. repeated the statements 

she made to her mother. But he argues that the third factor favors exclusion because the statements 

were initially made to only one person. The third factor, however, is met when a child tells a 
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substantially similar account to multiple people sequentially. State v. Kennealy, 151 Wn. App. 

861, 883, 214 P.3d 200 (2009).

At the Ryan hearing, Knight made no argument under this factor; he admitted that “[m]ore 

[than one person] did hear [M.P.’s statements].” 1 RP at 96. As the trial court determined, the 

third factor was satisfied because M.P. had told her mother and the detectives separate, consistent 

stories. It was not an abuse of discretion to find this factor favors admissibility of the statements.

4. SPONTANEITY

Knight challenges the fourth factor—the spontaneity of the victim’s statements made to 

the detectives. This challenge fails. 

Statements made in response to questions that are neither leading nor suggestive are 

spontaneous under Ryan. Swan, 114 Wn.2d at 649; State v. Henderson, 48 Wn. App. 543, 550, 

740 P.2d 329 (1987). Here, the detectives testified at the Ryan hearing (and the recording of M.P.’s 

interview corroborates their testimony) that the detectives asked open-ended and nonleading 

questions of M.P. Knight does not claim that any particular question was leading or suggestive 

nor that any particular answer lacked spontaneity. Instead Knight claims that any statements to an 

investigating police officer must lack spontaneity. He cites no authority for that position. 

The trial court did not abuse its discretion when it concluded that M.P.’s statements were 

not suggested by the detectives. Thus, this factor favors admissibility.

5. THE TIMING OF THE STATEMENT AND RELATIONSHIP OF THE DECLARANT TO THE WITNESS

Knight challenges the fifth factor—the timing of the statement and the relationship of the 

victim to the testifying witness. He argues that this factor favors him based on his trial testimony

that M.P. had a motivation to lie to avoid getting into trouble herself. But as stated, there was no 
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evidence presented at the Ryan hearing that supported a finding that the victim had a motivation 

to lie. At the hearing, Knight made no concrete argument challenging the timing of M.P.’s 

statements or her relationship with the witnesses, although he said “all sorts of theoretical 

arguments” could be made. 1 RP at 97.

Under this factor, a witness occupying a position of trust with the child enhances the 

reliability of a statement made by the child to that witness. Kennealy, 151 Wn. App. at 884. Police 

officers typically occupy positions of trust. Kennealy, 151 Wn. App. at 884. Here, M.P. made her 

statements to her mother and two police officers, all people occupying positions of trust. It was 

not an abuse of discretion to find this factor favored admissibility of the statements.

6. THE LIKELIHOOD THE DECLARANT’S RECOLLECTION IS FAULTY

Knight challenges the eighth Ryan factor—whether the possibility is remote that the 

declarant’s recollection was faulty. He argues that this factor favors exclusion. Again, without 

specifying a particular part of M.P.’s testimony, Knight claims that her testimony was selective, 

implying her recollection was faulty at the hearing. 

In State v. Leavitt, the court held that the proper focus is the passage of time between the 

incident and the disclosure, not the passage of time before the testimony repeating the disclosure. 

111 Wn.2d 66, 75, 758 P.2d 982 (1988). In Woods, the court discussed whether the victims had 

normal memories and abilities to perceive at the time of the hearing. 154 Wn.2d at 624.

Here, M.P.’s disclosures occurred on the same day as the molestation. M.P.’s testimony at 

the hearing also was consistent with her earlier statements. Thus, under both the Leavitt and Woods

analyses, it was not an abuse of discretion to find this factor favored admissibility of the statements.
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7. NO REASON TO MISREPRESENT THE DEFENDANT’S INVOLVEMENT

Knight challenges the ninth factor—whether the circumstances surrounding the statement 

imply the declarant had no reason to misrepresent the defendant’s involvement. This mirrors his 

challenge to the first factor. But because no motivation-to-lie evidence was presented at the Ryan

hearing, the trial court did not abuse its discretion in finding this factor favored admissibility.

8. LACK OF DISCUSSION OF EACH RYAN FACTOR ON THE RECORD

In addition to arguing that the trial court came to the wrong conclusion in applying the 

Ryan factors, Knight argues that the trial court erred when it did not refer to each Ryan factor 

individually. “Not every Ryan factor must be satisfied in order for the trial court to find a child’s 

out of court statements reliable.” Woods, 154 Wn.2d at 625. Thus, the trial court was not required 

to individually refer to each Ryan factor when it determined whether to admit M.P.’s statements.

Here, the trial court properly applied the Ryan test and relied on the evidence that M.P. 

held no animosity toward Knight before the incident, that M.P.’s statements were consistent, that 

her disclosure to her mother happened on the same day as the molestation, and that the detectives’ 

questions lacked suggestiveness. Considering the evidence before it at the Ryan hearing, the trial 

court did not abuse its discretion when it determined M.P.’s statements had a “high level” of 

reliability and, therefore, were admissible at trial. 

9. COMPETENCY

Knight asserts that the trial court should have considered M.P.’s competency as part of the 

Ryan reliability analysis. He argues that the trial court did not consider competency when it 

conducted the analysis, although he acknowledges that the trial court found M.P. to be a competent 

witness. We disagree.
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The trial court need not determine whether a child is competent as a precondition to the 

admissibility of the child’s hearsay statements under the indicia-of-reliability analysis. C.J., 148 

Wn.2d at 684. “Admissibility under the statute does not depend on whether the child is competent 

to take the witness stand, but on whether the comments and circumstances surrounding the 

statement indicate it is reliable.” C.J., 148 Wn.2d at 685. The trial court was not required to 

consider M.P.’s competency in determining whether to admit her hearsay statements. We reject 

this argument. 

In conclusion, the trial court properly considered the Ryan factors and did not abuse its 

discretion when it admitted M.P.’s hearsay statements.6

II. SUFFICIENCY OF THE EVIDENCE

Knight challenges the sufficiency of the evidence to convict him of first degree child 

molestation. He claims that even if a touching occurred, it was over M.P.’s clothing; thus, 

additional evidence of sexual gratification is required to prove a sexual contact occurred.7 We 

disagree because there was sufficient evidence to support a jury finding of sexual contact and 

sexual gratification. 

When a defendant challenges the sufficiency of the evidence supporting his conviction, we 

must view the evidence in the light most favorable to the State and determine whether any rational 

 

6 Because we conclude that the trial court did not err when it admitted M.P.’s hearsay statements, 

we do not reach Knight’s argument that admission of M.P.’s statements was prejudicial error. 

7 Portions of Knight’s argument derive from his account that the touching occurred accidentally 

while he tickled M.P. and that M.P. kissed him. But to the extent that Knight rests his argument 

on trial testimony contradicted by the State’s evidence, Knight misconstrues the standard for a 

sufficiency of the evidence claim. 
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jury could have found the essential elements of the crime beyond a reasonable doubt. State v. 

Farnsworth, 185 Wn.2d 768, 775, 374 P.3d 1152 (2016) (citing State v. Green, 94 Wn.2d 216, 

221, 616 P.2d 628 (1980)). The defendant admits the truth of all the State’s evidence in making 

such a challenge. Farnsworth, 185 Wn.2d at 775.

An essential element of the crime of child molestation is “sexual contact.” RCW 

9A.44.083(1). “‘Sexual contact’” is a touching of sexual or other intimate parts “for the purpose 

of gratifying sexual desire.” RCW 9A.44.010(2). Thus, an implicit requirement of convicting a 

defendant of child molestation is that the State prove the defendant acted with the purpose of sexual 

gratification. State v. Stevens, 158 Wn.2d 304, 309-10, 143 P.3d 817 (2006) (citing State v. Lorenz, 

152 Wn.2d 22, 36, 93 P.3d 133 (2004)).8

Intimate parts are those that a person of common intelligence would know are improper to 

touch. In re Welfare of Adams, 24 Wn. App. 517, 520, 601 P.2d 995 (1979). Proof that an 

unrelated, noncaretaking adult touched a child’s intimate part supports an inference of touching 

for sexual gratification. State v. Ramirez, 46 Wn. App. 223, 226, 730 P.2d 98 (1986). Additional 

evidence of sexual gratification is required when the touching is through clothing or is not of a 

primary erogenous area. State v. Powell, 62 Wn. App. 914, 917, 816 P.2d 86 (1991). But even if 

a touching of intimate parts is over clothing, a sexual contact has occurred when the touching is 

not susceptible of innocent explanation. See State v. Harstad, 153 Wn. App. 10, 22, 218 P.3d 624 

(2009).

 

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In Lorenz, the Supreme Court held that gratification is not an essential element of child 

molestation, but merely a “definitional term.” 152 Wn.2d at 36. But the court has since confined 

the holding of Lorenz to jury instructions and held that the State still has the burden of showing 

sexual gratification as part of the burden to prove sexual contact. Stevens, 158 Wn.2d at 309.
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In Powell, a young girl testified that a man touched her through her clothing, including 

hugging her chest and touching her underwear and thighs. 62 Wn. App. at 916. The victim was 

unable to describe precisely how the man touched her. Powell, 62 Wn. App. at 916. The court 

held that there was insufficient evidence of sexual gratification to convict the man because the 

touches were fleeting, his purpose was equivocal and susceptible of innocent explanation, and the 

man made no threats or requests for the victim not to tell. Powell, 62 Wn. App. at 918.

In Harstad, one victim testified that her father, breathing heavily, rubbed her inner thigh, 

close to her vagina. 153 Wn. App. at 19-20. Although the touching was not under the victim’s 

clothing, the court held that the combination of the rubbing and heavy breathing implied a sexual 

purpose sufficient to support a finding of sexual contact. Harstad, 153 Wn. App. at 22-23. 

Here, a rational jury could expect a person of common intelligence to know that M.P.’s 

buttocks and perineum are intimate parts. See Adams, 24 Wn. App. at 520. From the State’s 

evidence, a reasonable jury could find that the touching was not susceptible of innocent 

explanation because M.P.’s molestation is more similar to Harstad than Powell. Unlike Powell, 

the touching here is not equivocal or susceptible of innocent explanation. The State presented 

evidence that Knight placed M.P. on his lap, that he rubbed M.P.’s buttocks with his hand moving 

deeper and closer to her perineum, that he asked M.P. to kiss him, and that he later told M.P. not 

to tell anyone. Such deliberate actions are not the momentary and potentially innocent contact that 

concerned the Powell court. 

As in Harstad, the jury could rationally infer that Knight touched M.P. for the purpose of 

sexual gratification. Thus, we hold that sufficient evidence supports a finding of sexual 

gratification and sexual contact.
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We affirm.

A majority of the panel having determined that this opinion will not be printed in the 

Washington Appellate Reports, but will be filed for public record in accordance with RCW 2.06.040, 

it is so ordered.

JOHANSON, J.

We concur:

BJORGEN, C.J.

LEE, J.