From: Corkran, Jerry L [mailto:Jerry.Corkran@CooperIndustries.com]

Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:10 AM

To: Jerry Hodge; Phil Hopkinson; Robert Berman

Cc: Dan Mulkey; Aris Marantan; Katie Coughlin; Richar d Parker; Brenda Edwards; Brian Coffey; Caitlin

Johnson; Dan Cohen; Jennifer Tiedeman; John Cymbalsky; Chris Bolduc; Freeman, Jeremiah; Emily

Marchetti; Zhimei Luo; Puesh Kumar; Alex Hofmann; Andrew Delaski; Art Rosenfeld; Bob Saint; Bob

Smith; Carlos Gaytan; Caskey, John; Charlie Drexler; Charlie Stevens; Chris Brown; Clark Silcox; Creevy,

Jim; Daniel Young; David Flaten; Eric Peterson; Gary Fernstrom; Greg Coulter; Greg Rosenquist; Hirsch,

Bruce R; James Lass; Jerry Schoen; Jim Raba; Joanna Mauer; John Rossetti; Ken Winder; Mahesh P.

Sampat; Matthew Nardotti; Maxine Savitz; Meg Waltner; Michael Hyla nd; Michael Rivest; Millure, Dave;

Pamela Costello; Phil Harter; Polinski, Raymond; Rick Anderson; Rob Greeson; Ro bert van Buskirk; Robin

Roy; Ryan, Paul; Scott Beck; Simmons, Chuck; Steve Nadel; Steve Rosenstock; Ted Johnstone; Thomas

Petrosino; Tim Ballo; Tom Eckman; Wes Patterson

Subject: RE: Distribution Transformer loading

To Jerry:

I agree with the number 1 conclusion but for second item, I have the following comments: The DOE had

good intentions to reduce transformer losses but the assumptions they made during the study to

assume a life time loading level of 27 to 35% for small transformers and 40% for larg er transformers

flawed the entire study and resulted in the so called payback numbers being too high and incorrect.

The reason for the flaws was that the analysis did not use the true loading levels that the utilities either

currently use or will use during the next 30 years. The utili ties who can manage their systems to

achieve the 70% average loading target for new transformers installed are making intelligent decisions

which will benefit their customers in using the correct kVA sizes for the loads being served.

Jerry Corkran

From: Jerry Hodge [ mailto:jhodge@howard-ind.com ]

Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:38 AM

To: Phil Hopkinson; Robert Berman; Corkran, Jerry L

Cc: Dan Mulkey; Aris Marantan; Katie Coughlin; Richar d Parker; Brenda Edwards; Brian Coffey; Caitlin

Johnson; Dan Cohen; Jennifer Tiedeman; John Cymbalsky; Chris Bolduc; Freeman, Jeremiah; Emily

Marchetti; Zhimei Luo; Puesh Kumar; Alex Hofmann; Andrew Delaski; Art Rosenfeld; Bob Saint; Bob

Smith; Carlos Gaytan; Caskey, John; Charlie Drexler; Charlie Stevens; Chris Brown; Clark Silcox; Creevy,

Jim; Daniel Young; David Flaten; Eric Peterson; Gary Fernstrom; Greg Coulter; Greg Rosenquist; Hirsch,

Bruce R; James Lass; Jerry Schoen; Jim Raba; Joanna Mauer; John Rossetti; Ken Winder; Mahesh P.

Sampat; Matthew Nardotti; Maxine Savitz; Meg Waltner; Michael Hyla nd; Michael Rivest; Millure, Dave;

Pam Costello; Phil Harter; Polinski, Raymond; Rick Anderson; Rob Greeson; Robert van Buskirk; Robin

Roy; Ryan, Paul; Scott Beck; Simmons, Chuck; Steve Nadel; Steve Rosenstock; Ted Johnstone; Thomas

Petrosino; Tim Ballo; Tom Eckman; Wes Patterson

Subject: RE: Distribution Transformer loading



### To Phil and All:

DOE has had good intentions with their transf ormer efficiency rules and these higher

efficiencies can save energy and cost. I have said many times that there are two major

loopholes in their program t hat can heavily impact their goals.

### 1. The increased use of rebuilt transformers . We, as a committee, have discussed this

situation over the last few m onths and I think this will be a growing concern in the future

for DOE because it will continue to dilute the expected energy savi ngs of the program.

2. The DOE program does not control the loading practices of the individual utilities

across this country. As Phil mentions bel ow, Ameren is already looking at how they

may change their loading practices to help reduce the first costs. In time, more and

more utilities will review their loading practi ces and try to squeeze a little more out of

their transformers, it's only natural. As they do this, the expected energy savings of the

DOE program will be decreased.

I don't have the answer to how these two activi ties can be minimized or eliminated, but I

do see the negative consequences that they will cause wit h regard to true energy

savings in the future.

Jerry

Jerry Hodge

Consulting Engineer, E.E., M.S., P.E.

Retired V.P. & G.M. of Pole Type Transformer & Regulator Div.

Howard Industries Inc.

P.O.Box 1588

Laurel, Ms, 39440

601 422-1539 Bus.

484 226-6190 Cell

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-----Original Message-----

From: Phil Hopkinson [ mailto:phopkinson@hvolt.com ]

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:08 PM

To: Robert Berman; Corkran, Jerry L

Cc: Dan Mulkey; Aris Marantan; Katie Coughlin; Richar d Parker; Brenda Edwards; Brian Coffey; Caitlin

Johnson; Dan Cohen; Jennifer Tiedeman; John Cymbalsky; Chris Bolduc; Freeman, Jeremiah; Emily

Marchetti; Zhimei Luo; Puesh Kumar; Alex Hofmann; Andrew Delaski; Art Rosenfeld; Bob Saint; Bob

Smith; Carlos Gaytan; Caskey, John; Charlie Drexler; Charlie Stevens; Chris Brown; Clark Silcox; Creevy,

Jim; Daniel Young; David Flaten; Eric Peterson; Gary Fernstrom; Greg Coulter; Greg Rosenquist; Hirsch,

Bruce R; James Lass; Jerry Hodge; Jerry Schoen; Jim Raba; Joanna Mauer; John Rossetti; Ken Winder;

Mahesh P. Sampat; Matthew Nardotti; Maxine Savit z; Meg Waltner; Michael Hyland; Michael Rivest;

Millure, Dave; Pam Costello; Phil Harter; Polinski, Raymond; Rick Anderson; Rob Greeson; Robert van

Buskirk; Robin Roy; Ryan, Paul; Scott Beck; Simmons, Chuck; Steve Nadel; Steve Rosenstock; Ted

Johnstone; Thomas Petrosino; Tim Ballo; Tom Eckman; Wes Patterson

Subject: RE: Distribution Transformer loadingGood afternoon Robert and all:

1. No that is not the correct interpretation. I spoke extensively with Dan Mulkey, the PG&E

Transformer Engineer. The 39% load factor is on a per meter basis and is the average load for

that meter divided by the maximum load for that meter. Since all meters of the same class are

averaged it is the average load divided by the max imum load for all of the meters of that class.

2. The transformer loading is a different calculation. Effectively, PG&E under Dan Mulkey’s

guidance strives to make the average load on the transformer equal to 70% of the Nameplate

rating of the transformer.

3. Transformers are chosen for the application based on achieving 70% RMS equivalent load on

the transformer and on remaining within acceptable flicker and load regulation. He often times

chooses a 15 kVA transformer for 10

‐ 15 meters of load class E1.

I have spoken with Ameren UE this afternoon as well and they have within the last 5 years mod ified

their transformer sizing policy to go to much heavier loading so as to minimize their transformer

purchase budget.

Best regards,

Phil

Philip J Hopkinson, PE

President & CEO HVOLT Inc.

3704 High Ridge Rd.

Charlotte, NC 28270

phopkinson@hvolt.com

Ph 704-846-3290

Fx 704-845-2520

Cell 704-236-3320

www.hvolt.com

From: Robert Berman [ mailto:bermaneconomics@gmail.com ]

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:17 PM

To: Corkran, Jerry L

Cc: Dan Mulkey; Phil Hopkinson; Aris Marantan; Katie Coughlin; Richard Parker; Brenda Edwards; Brian

Coffey; Caitlin Johnson; Dan Cohen; Jennifer Ti edeman; John Cymbalsky; Chris Bolduc; Freeman,

Jeremiah; Emily Marchetti; Zhimei Luo; Puesh Kumar; Alex Hofmann; Andrew Delaski; Art Rosenfeld; Bob

Saint; Bob Smith; Carlos Gaytan; Caskey, John; Char lie Drexler; Charlie Stevens; Chris Brown; Clark

Silcox; Creevy, Jim; Daniel Young; David Flaten; Eric Peterson; Gary Fernstrom; Greg Coulter; Greg

Rosenquist; Hirsch, Bruce R; James Lass; Jerry Ho dge; Jerry Schoen; Jim Raba; Joanna Mauer; John

Rossetti; Ken Winder; Mahesh P. Sampat; Matthew Nardotti; Maxine Savitz; Meg Waltner; Michael

Hyland; Michael Rivest; Millure, Dave; Pam Costello; Phil Harter; Polinski, Raymond; Rick Anderson; Rob

Greeson; Robert Berman; Robert van Buskirk; Robin Roy; Ryan, Paul; Scott Beck; Simmons, Chuck; Steve

Nadel; Steve Rosenstock; Ted Johnstone; Thomas Petrosino; Tim Ballo; Tom Eckman; Wes Patterson

Subject: Re: Distribution Transformer loading



### It appears that the 70% load fact or occurs only on the peak day. The annual load factor for 80%

of the meters is reported as 39%. This is consis tent with 38% implied load factor PG&E filed in

it's 2007 rate case (A=$7.268, B=$1.063). These results are not inconsistent with the national

distribution of loads used by LBNL.

### Regards,

Robert A. Berman, Principal

Berman Economics

www.BermanEconomics.com

1915 Grand Court

Vienna, VA 22182

703

‐ 281

‐ 0490

703

‐ 655

‐ 8398 (cell)

BermanEconomics@gmail.com

On Dec 13, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Corkran, Jerry L wrote:

Dan Mulkey and Phil Hopkinson

– the attached loading data and the explanation of how PG&E loads

their new transformers at a targeted 70% of the nameplate rating is very factual and the most accurate

explanation I have heard about how the utilities load their new transformers. We have all heard th e

terms “Smart Grid”. This appears to be an example of a smart customer using the latest technology to

lead the way on efficient use of new transformers.

For the 30 year time frame that is being considered for the DOE transformer efficiency rules, it seems

logical that most utili ties will adopt a similar smart process as is being used by PG&E to size the

transformers and that a loading target similar to the 70% loading target used by PG&E will be adopted

by the utility industry. This is expected to result in load levels much higher than the 25% to 40 % loads

used by the DOE to calculate the pay backs for the various loss levels considered. The key question is

what loading will be used on new transformers to be installed and not what loading exists on some unit

installed long before the smart meters existed.

Dan

– Are you available to answer e mails if the DOE WG has additional questions?

Members of the DOE WG who are utility employees: Please comment about the practice that PGE is

using to load their new transformers. What does your company currently do to size transformers and

what will your company do in the future to efficiently load the ne w transformers installed on your

systems?

Members of the DOE and Navigant who are involved in the evaluations of the transformer designs:

Please comment

‐ Would the DOE and Navigant consider using a higher load factor in the DOE payback

calculations? Based on th e 70% load factor targeted by PG&E for 6 million customers, it seems that the

DOE study payback results are not accurate and that they should be revised to some load factor that

reflects the latest technology that the utilities will routinely be using based on the future 30 year ti me

frame being considered.Regards,

Jerry Corkran

From: Mulkey, Dan [mailto:DHM3@pge.com]

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 1:42 PM

To: Phil Hopkinson

Cc: Corkran, Jerry L; Meyers, Aaron; Trujillo, Antonio

Subject: RE: Distribution Transformer loading

Phil:

It is good to hear from you again as I missed attending the last IEEE Transformers Committee Meetings

in Boston.

You have asked about load cycles at Pacific Gas & Electric and in fact we have public information that

is readily available on our website. There are approximately 5.1 million meters on the PG &E system.

The average data from test meters for each rate class from residential to commercial and industrial is

displayed on an hourly basis for all 8760 hours in a year. Multiple years of data are available on the

public website. The attached EXCEL spreadsheet is an ex tract of the data for 2006. The rate classes

are defined in the second attachment.

This data is not organized by transformer type but there are a number of factors that are significant to

understanding the displays:

1. The summary data by rate class is shown at the very bottom of the spreadsheet.

2. A snapshot of the summary data is shown below:

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4. The hourly readings are the kWHrs consumed which is also the average kW load during that hour.

5. Rate class E1 is the most abundant class. I estimate that it accounts for approximately 80% of the

meters.

6. Rate class E7 is also residential but is Time of Use service, and probably accounts for ~5% of the meters.

This class is most often advantageous for homes where people can shift their energy consumption to

off

‐ peak times.

7. The various other rate classes are also defined in attachment 2.

8. The yearly load factor is equal to the average load divided by the max load.

9. For PG&E the average transformer is loaded to approximately 70% of nameplate. While the peak loads

are normally within the capability of the transformer, the peak loads will often exceed the nameplate

rating of the transformer.

10. It is usually the physical location and grouping of the customer service points that determines the

needed transformer.

11. For most transformer installations the limiting factor is usually the voltage or flicker drop rather than

the kVA size of the transformer.

12. A given transformer can be placed into service for a wide variety of loads. For instance, the same 25 kVA

single

‐ phase pad

‐ mount could be used to supply everything from a single signal light, to a single isolated

residential customer, to fifteen or so residential customers in a subdivision in a coastal area.

13. While the average distribution transformer serves 5 customers, the range is from one to several

hundred.14. PG&E attempts to take advantage of the full capability of our transformers to achieve favorable

economics for our ratepayers

.

I hope that this explanation helps.

Best regards,

Dan Mulkey

Sr Consulting Electrical Engineer

DHM3@PGE.COM

415

‐ 973

‐ 4699 office

415

‐ 264

‐ 9260 cell



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