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Dr. Alfredo Armendariz, Regional Administrator

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Region VI

1445 Ross Avenue, Suite 1200

Dallas, TX 75202-2733

Subject: Request for Approval of Revision to the State Implementation Plan for

Air Quality, for 20.11.2 NMAC, Permit Fees (AKA Fees)

Dear Dr. Armendariz,

I am writing to request approval of the attached documentation which will serve as the basis for a

revision to the New Mexico State Implementation Plan for air quality (SIP). Specifically, I am

submitting documentation for the proposed repeal of the regulation, 20 NMAC 11.02 and

replacement by 20.11.2 NMAC, Permit Fees (AKA Fees), which applies to Bernalillo County, New

Mexico, and was adopted in 2001.

The Albuquerque - Bernalillo County Air Quality Control Board (Air Board) repealed 20 NMAC

11.02 Permit Fees and replaced it with 20.11.2 NMAC, Permit Fees, on April 18,2001, after a

public comment period and corresponding public hearing held on February 14, 2001. The

regulation was filed with the New Mexico State Records Center (NMSRC) on May 16, 2001 and

became effective on July 1, 2001. We believe that the submitted materials provide adequate

documentation to support the requested SIP revision.

The reasons for submitting an historical rule amendment as a revision to the SIP are as follows.

Subsequent to adoption of the SIP revision before you, the Air Board adopted amendments to

20.11.2 NMAC on 1/14/04 regarding fees necessary in order to operate the fugitive dust program

[20.11.20 NMAC] as well as other changes; these amendments were filed on 1/28/04, and

became locally effective on 3/1/04. On 9/7/04 a request for a SIP revision was submitted to EPA

under the Governor's signature. But before EPA finalized their approval for this revision, the

Albuquerque Air Quality Division (AQD) had already begun work on the next revision. So EPA:s

review was postponed until the next SIP revision request was sent to them. The Air Board

adopted this second set of amendments on 11/8/06, which reduced the hearing appeal fee from

$1000.00 to $125.00. These amendments were filed on 11/15/06, and became effective locally

on 12/16/06. A request for a SIP revision was submitted to EPA under the Governor's signature

on 2/5/07.

State Capitol • Room 400 • Santa Fe, New Mexico 87501 • 505-476-2200 • fax: 505-476-2226
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20.11.2 NMAC has been amended numerous times since it was first adopted in 1977, with the

penultimate hearing before the aforementioned 2004 and 2006 hearings, being held on 2/14/01.

The Air Board adopted this repeal and replacement on 4/18/01. This replacement rule was filed

on 5/16/01, and became effective locally on 7/1/01. The new rule addressed permit fees,

potential to emit, State air toxics, and Title V. EPA reviewed these changes but there is no record

of the 2001 amendment ever being submitted to EPA for inclusion into the SIP. Thus, EPA has

not approved a SIP revision to include any of the amendments made to 20.11.2 NMAC in the

intervening period since their initial approval in the Federal Register on April 10, 1980 [Vol. 45 No.

71, 24460-69].

Since the 20.11.2 NMAC SIP has not been revised at EPA since 1980, the locally effective

version is completely different from that approved in the SIP. This raises two issues. First, the

2004 & 2006 (2007) SIP revisions will need to be compared to a "baseline" rule such as the

5/16/2001 replacement rule, since the 1980 rule is not comparable. Secondly, since the 2004,

and 2006 (2007) amendments did not amend/update the language currently found in 20.11.2

NMAC, at Sections: 1, Issuing Agency; 4, Duration; 5, Effective Date, and 8, Savings Clause,

these sections will need to be updated in the SIP as well. This will be done when the 2004 &

2006 (2007) SIP revisions are approved; or if the most recent amendments that were adopted on

12/8/2010, filed 12/10/2010, effective 1/10/2011, and submitted to EPA on 12/2712010, are

approved in the same federal register notice as the 2004 & 2006 (2007) revisions, then the

update will take place at that time.

To facilitate your review and processing, the following materials are enclosed:

1) SIP Completeness Checklist pursuant to 40 CFR 51;

2) Hearing record, including transcript and exhibits;

3) Comments and responses;

4) The proposed SIP revision for 20.11.2 NMAC, Permit Fees;

adopted by the AQCB; and

5) Other supporting documentation.

Your favorable consideration of this request is appreciated. If you have any questions, please

contact Mary Lou Leonard, Director of the Albuquerque Environmental Health Department (EHD),

at (505) 768-2631.

Governor

cc: Mary Lou Leonard, Director, Albuquerque EHD

Richard Goodyear, Acting Chief, Air Quality Bureau, NM Environment Department

Margaret Menache, Chair, AQCB

Margaret Nieto, Control Strategies Section Supervisor, AQD

Enclosures
SUBMITTAL LETTER FROM EHD DIRECTOR TO

GOVERNOR
CITY OF ALBUQ!JERQ!JE

Aprill, 2011

Honorable Susana Martine?;

Governor, StlltepHilewMl!iIico

Office of the ~ernor

Room40Q·

490 014$lUlta Fq Trail

Santa Fei.NM 87501

PO Box 1293

Albuquerque .

Dear Governor Martinez,

NMB7l03

www,cnbq.gov

tarIl:~9"JJ to requestypUJ: endorsement of the atta~~~~~.~$$'l::\P~,!bj81. serves as thl! basis forell fl'Vision to the New M"xi~,Sta~ijpllIr:Dtn.tati<in PIan: (SIP)

for Air QualitY. The lIttached d~entation SUPP0rl5t1l.~/ptoposed SIP revision

which incorporar~a repeal of 20 NMAC 11.02 !!l1d~plll~ent by 20..11.2 NMAC,

Pe""';l Fee.r.. c~ Fees), adopted purs»!\l1t'):!!:Ji~)!ii>t the Clean Air Act

~~tsof..t990, into the SIP. If yO!.l.·~etailitsubmiseionof the proposed

SIP revisiOl!, 1I of endorsement sbo~De sent to the E'\F~~f\!,:~r$!l~st for

their appnml 1/:Y way of publiCllti<in itl:th"i'¥mt' RlJittm 4 #aft fottnallelter to

EPA is attlld1eqIQr yow: convenience,) ~provi<leEPA wU:!J,tIl.e necessary teview

~, of the.. submittal. so y~ do ''!oi, neeii~().,~~: any alZl'QlIIpanylng

dOcuj:J;)ent2rlon. Flease provide tD!l with a Copy of YOI!r'lettel:of endorsement, or if

you prefer to pl:Ovide me with tIl.e 9.cl~ I Will bike cUe'of all the de.tl!il.. . .

The AIb1Jquer~ BertWiUo C9UUty Air QIUility Con~1 BoardCAit Board)rep~a1ed

20 NMAG 11.02 PmnitF..sand replaced it~th 20.1v; Nr.iAC. pmmt FemonApril

18, 2001, after a public cornm.entperj.od andfconesp<>rtdingpubl;ic bea.ring bd~ on

Febnuu:y 14, 2001. The r~tion.wa.8 filed with the]-,jew M,,"iiao Stat¢ ~C9rds

Center (NMSRC) on May 16,2001 and bec$!!" effective tinluly l, 2001. Webt;1ieve

tIl.at the submitted materials provide ac1e<JU'\te doeurnentation to support the

requested SU' revision.

AJ""'F"'I'" - M.lti"l1 Hm"" 1706-2006
The reasons for submitting an historical rule amendment as a revision to the SIP are

as follows. Subsequent to adoption of the SIP revision before you, the Air Board

adopted amendments to 20.112 NMAC on 1/14/04 regarding fees necessary in

order to operate the fugitive dust program [20.11.20 NMAq as well as other changes;

these amendments were filed on 1/28/04, and became locally effective on 3/1/04.

On 9/7/04 a request for a SIP revision was submitted to EPA under the Governor's

signature. But before EPA finalized their approval for this revision, the Albuquerque

Air Quality Division (AQD) had already begun work on the next revision. So EP.8s

review was postponed until the next SIP revision request was sent to them. The Air

Board adopted this second set of amendments on 11/8/06, which reduced the

hearing appeal fee from $1000.00 to $125.00. These amendmeots were filed on

11/15/06, and became effective locally on 12/16/06. A request for a SIP revision

was submitted to EPA under the Governor's signature on 2/5/07.

20.11.2 NMAC has been amended numerous times since it was first adopted in 1977,

with the penultimate hearing before the aforementioned 2004 and 2006 hearings,

being held on 2/14/01. The Air Board adopted this repeal and replacement on

4/18/01. This replacement rule was £iled on 5/16/01, and became effective locally

on 7/1/01. The new rule addressed permit fees, potential to emit, State air toxics,

and Title V. EPA reviewed these changes but there is no record of the 2001

amendment ever being submitted to EPA for inclusion into the SIP. Thus, EPA has

not approved a SIP revision to include any of the amendments made to 20.11.2

NMAC in the intervening period since their initial approval in the Federal Register on

April 10, 1980 [Vol. 45 No. 71,24460-69].

Since the 20.11.2 NMAC SIP has not been revised at EPA since 1980, the locally

effective version is completely different from that approved in the SIP This raises

two issue.. First, the 2004 & 2006 (2007) SIP revisions will need to be compared to a

"baseline" rule such as the 5/16/2001 replacement rule, since the 1980 rule is not

comparable. Secondly, since the 2004, and 2006 (2007) amendments did not

amend/update the language currently found in 20.11.2 NMAC, at Sections: I, Imag

Agrll£r. 4, DNration; 5, Effidi", Dau, and 8, Sl10mgJ Clmin, these sections will need to be

updated in the SIP as well. This will be done when the 2004 & 2006 (2007) SIP

revisions are approved; or if the most recent amendments that were adopted on

12/8/2010, filed 12/10/2010, effective 1/10/2011, and submitted to EPA on

12/27/2010, are approved in the same federal register notice as the 2004 & 2006

(2007) revisions, the update will take place at that time.

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To facilitate your review and processing, the following materials are enclosed:

1) SIP Completeness Checklist pursuant to 40 CFR 51, Appendix V

2) Hearing record, including transcripts and exhibits

3) Public comments and responses

4) The proposed SIP revision for 20.11.2 NMAC, Permit Fees

adopted by the Air Board.

5) A draft formal submittal letter from the Governor to EPA

Thank you for your assistance in this matter. If you have questions or need

clarification, please contact me or Margaret Nieto of my staff at (505) 768-2637.

Sincerdy,

t

Leonard

ue Environmental Health Department

cc: Chair, Albuquerque - Bernalillo County Air Quality Control Board

Margaret Nietn, Control Strategies Supervisor, AQD

Neal Butt, Environmental Health Scientist, AQD

Mary Uhl, Chief, Air Quality Bureau, NM Environment Department

Enclosures

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REVISION TO THE NEW MEXICO STATE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN

PERTAINING TO 20 NMAC 11.02 NMAC, PERMIT FEES (AKA 20.1 1.2 NMAC, Fees)

April 2001 / April 2011

SIP COMPLETENESS CHECKLIST

for regular processing

(per 40 CFR 51 Appendix V)

2.1 Administrative Materials

(a) A fonnalletter of submittal from the Governor or his designee, requesting EPA

approval ofthe plan or revision thereof (hereafter ''the plan").

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X YES NO N/A

This SIP revision submission contains aformal transmittal letterfrom the Governor

ofthe State ofNew Mexico.

(b) Evidence that the State has adopted the plan in the State code or body ofregulations;

or issued the pennit, order, consent agreement (hereafter "document") in final fonn.

That evidence shall include the date of adoption or final issuance as well as the

effective date ofthe plan, if different from the adoption/issuance date.

_X_YES NO N/A - -

The regulation, 20NMAC 11.02, Permit Fees, was repealedandreplaced by 20.11.2

NMAC, Permit Fees on April 18, 2001 at the regular meeting ofthe AlbuquerqueBernalillo County Air Quality Control Board (AQCB), following a public hearing

held on February 14, 2001. The regulation was filed with the New Mexico State

Records Center (NMSRC) on May 16, 2001 and became effective on July I, 2001.

AttachmentA is a copy ofthe transmittalsfor the repeal and replacement ofthe rule,

as well as the replacement rule itselfas filed with the State Records Center, and

signed by AQCB Chairman Randy Sanchez. The date stamp at the top ofthe pages

indicates the date offiling.

(c) Evidence that the State has the necessary legal authority under State law to adopt and

implement the plan.

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X YES NO N/A

The New Mexico Air Quality Control Actprovidesfor regulation at 74-2-5.1

NMSA 1978, Duties andpowers ofthe department and the local agency; andfor

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plan revisions at 74-2-5.2 NMSA 1978, State air pollution control agency;

specific duties andpowers ofthe department. See:

http://www.conwaygreene.com/nmsu/lpext.dl/?f=templates&fn=main-hith.htm&2.0

(d) A copy of the actual regulation, or document submitted for approval and

incorporation by reference into the plan, including indication ofthe changes made to

the existing approved plan, where applicable. The submittal shall be a copy ofthe

official State regulation/document signed, stamped, dated by the appropriate State

official indicating that it is fully enforceable by the State. The effective date ofthe

regulation/document shall, whenever possible, be indicated in the document itself.

X YES NO N/A

A copy of the actual regulation submitted for approval and incorporation by

reference into the plan is shown in Attachment A. Attachment A contains the

replacement rule and transmittal forms indicating that the rule has been repealed

and replaced, signed, stamped and dated by the appropriate officials, indicating that

it is fUlly e'1forceable. This replacement rule was published in the New Mexico

Register on May 31, 2001 (Volume XIL Issue Number 10), See Attachment D.

(e) Evidence that the State followed all ofthe procedural requirements ofthe State'slaws

and constitution in conducting and completing the adoption/issuance ofthe plan.

X YES - - NO N/A

The New Mexico Air Quality Control Act 74-2-6C requires 3G-day notice. See Staff

Exhibits 1 & #2 in Attachment B for evidence that notices were published in the

local newspaper and the New Mexico Register.

(f) Evidence that public notice was given of the proposed change consistent with

procedures approved by EPA; including the date of publication ofsuch notice.

X YES NO N/A

See Staff Exhibits #1 & #2 in Attachment B. These provide evidence that notices

were published in the local newspaper and the New Mexico Register. In addition,

notice was also provided by mail. The New Mexico Air Quality ControlAct at 74-2-

6C NMSA 1978, Adoption ofregulations; notice and hearings requires a 3D-day

notice.

(g) Certification that public hearing(s) were held in accordance with the information

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provided in the public notice and the State's laws and constitution, if applicable.

X YES - - NO N/A

The opening statement for the February 14, 2001, public hearing includes

information on the notice ofpublic hearing and instructions on howthe hearingwill

be conducted. See certified hearing record transcript in Attachment C.

(h) Compilation of public comments and the State's response thereto.

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X YES NO N/A

See Attachment B which contains: Staff Exhibits # 4, #6, #7. and #9 for public

comment and the hearing transcript shown as Attachment C. for State's response

thereto. See Staff Exhibits #5 & #8 for NOIs filed with the Department. See also

Rio Grande Portland Cement Exhibits I & 2, which were admitted at the hearing.

2.2 Technical Support

(a) Identification of all regulated pollutants affected by the plan.

YES NO X N/A

The amended regulation only affects the fees paid in order to emit pollutants, but

does not affect emission levels directly.

(b) Identification ofthe locations of affected sources including the EPA attainment!

nonattainment designation ofthe locations and the status ofthe attainment plan for

the affected area(s).

X YES NO N/A

The regulation 20.11.2 NMAC. Fees, setsforth applicablefees to bepaidfor certain

sources ofairpollution by the regulated community within Bernalillo County, New

Mexico. Bernalillo County is currently designated as an attainment area for all

criteria airpollutants exceptPMIO• Bernalillo County is classified as unclassifiable

for PMIO and Bernalillo County is under a Limited Maintenance Plan for carbon

monoxide.

(c) Quantification ofthe changes in plan-allowable emissions from the affected sources;

estimates of changes in current actual emissions from affected sources or, where

appropriate, quantification of changes in actual emissions from affected sources

through calculations ofthe differences between certain baseline levels and allowable

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emissions anticipated as a result ofthe revision.

YES NO X N/A --

The amended regulation only affects the fees paid in order to emit pollutants, but

does not affect emission levels directly.

(d) The State's demonstration that the national ambient air quality standards, prevention

of significant deterioration (PSD) increments, reasonable further progress

demonstration, and visibility, as applicable, are protected ifthe plan is approved and

implemented. For all requests to redesignate an area to attainment for a national

primary ambient air quality standard, under Section 107 ofthe Act, a revision must

be submitted to provide for the maintenance of the national primary ambient air

quality standards for at least 10 years as required by section 175A ofthe Act.

YES NO X N/A - -

This plan revision does not pertain to redesignating an area to attainment for a

nationalprimary ambient air quality standard. Nor does itpertain to prevention of

significant deterioration (PSD) increments anddemonstrations ofreasonablefurther

progress. The amended regulation only affects the fees paid in order to emit

pollutants, but does not affect emission levels directly.

(e) Modeling information required to support the proposed revision, including input

data, output data, models used, justification ofmodel selections, ambient monitoring

data used, meteorological data used, justification for use ofoffsite data (where used),

modes ofmodels used, assumptions, and other information relevant to the

determination of adequacy ofthe modeling analysis.

YES NO X N/A

(f) Evidence, where necessary, that emission limitations are based on continuous

emission reduction technology.

YES NO X N/A

(g) Evidence that the plan contains emission limitations, work practice standards and

record keeping/reporting requirements, where necessary, to ensure emission levels.

YES NO X N/A

(h) Compliance/enforcementstrategies, including how compliance will be determined in

practice.

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YES NO X N/A

(i) Special economic and technical justification required by any applicable EPA

policies, or an explanation ofwhy such justifications are not necessary.

YES NO X N/A

No special economic and technicaljustifications required by other applicable EPA

policies are necessary because no such policies are relevant in this case.

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ATTACHMENT A

Attachment A contains the transmittal forms required by the New Mexico

State Records Center to file a regulation or an amendment. The forms are

signed by AQCB Chairman Randy Sanchez. Also included in Attachment

A is the official filed copy ofthe replacement regulation, 20.11.2 NMAC,

Fees. The date stamp at the top ofthe transmittal form indicates the date

offiling.
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NMAC TRANSMITTAL FORM

New 0 Amendment D Renumber D Repeal W Emergency 0

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No X Yes Please list attachments

andInternet site(s) if

applicable

YesD

7/1/2001

Public domainD

Name:

Title:

Randy Sanchez

Chair, Albuquerque/Bernalillo County Air Quality Control Board

Check ifdelegated

authority D

Date Si ned

SRC-2000-02

5/26/2000
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This action repeals 20 NMAC 11.02, Permit Fees, which was filed with the State Records Center and Archives on

October 27, 1995, with an effective date of December 1, 1995, and replaced with 20.11.2 NMAC effective July 1,

2001.

20 NMAC 11.02 2
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NMAC TRANSMITTAL FORM

New W Amendment D Renumber D Repeal D Emergency 0

No Yes X Please list attachments

and Internetsite(s) if

applicable

7/1/2001

1. http://www.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/index.htm

2

3.

Public domain 0

SRC-2000-02

5/26/2000

Name:

Title:

Randy Sanchez Check ifdelegated

authority D

Date Si n'ed
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ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION

ALBUQUERQUE/BERNALILLO COUNTY AIR QUALITY CONTROL BOARD

PERMIT FEES

20.11.2.2

A.

OBJECTIVE:

To implement the requirements of 74-2-7 NMSA by establishing:

Reasonable fees to cover the cost of reviewing and acting on any permit application received by

(J

20.11.2.1 ISSUING AGENCY: Albuquerque/Bernalillo County Air Quality Control Board, Environmental

Health Department, P.O. Box 1293, Albuquerque, NM 87103. Telephone: (505) 768-2600.

[20.11.2.1 NMAC-Rp, 20NMAC.l1.02.I.l, 7/1/2001]

SCOPE:

Applicability:

(1) Any person required to obtain a permit pursuant to 20.11.42 NMAC, Operating Permits;

(2) Any person required to obtain a permit pursuant to 20.11.41 NMAC, Authority-to-Construct;

(3) Any person with a valid registration or permit issued pursuant to 20.11.40 NMAC, Source

Registration, 20.11.41 NMAC, Authority-to-Construct, or 20.11.42 NMAC, Operating Permits;

(4) Any person requesting a Surface Disturbance Permit pursuant to 20.11.20 NMAC, Airborne

Particulate Matter;

(5) Any person required to provide notification regarding removing regulated asbestos containing

material pursuant to 20.11.64 NMAC, Emission Standards for Hazardous Air Pollutants for Stationary Sources; and

(6) Any person requesting professional or administrative services.

B. Exempt: This Part does not apply to sources within Bernalillo County that are located on Indian

lands over which the Albuquerque/Bernalillo County Air Quality Control Board lacks jurisdiction.

C. Variance: Any person may request a timely variance to this Part in accordance with Variance

Procedures, 20.11.7 NMAC, if allowed by federal, state or local laws and regulations.

[20.11.2.2 NMAC - Rp, 20 NMAC 11.02.1.2 & 20 NMAC 11.02.1.8,7/1/2001]

20.11.2.3 STATUTORY AUTHORITY: This Part is adopted pursuant to the authority provided in the New

Mexico Air Quality Act, NMSA 1978 Sections 74-2-4, 74-2-5; the Joint Air Quality Control Board Ordinance,

Bernalillo County Ordinance 94-5 Sections 3 and 4; and the Joint Air Quality Control Board Ordinance, Revised

Ordinances of Albuquerque 1994 Section 9-5-1-3 and Section 9-5-1-4.

[20.11.2.3 NMAC -Rp, 20 NMAC 11.02.1.3,7/1/2001]

20.11.2.4 DURATION: Permanent.

[20.11.2.4 - Rp, 20 NMAC 11.02.1.4, 7/1/2001]

20.11.2.5 EFFECTIVE DATE: July 1,2001, unless a later date is cited at the end of a section or paragraph.

[20.11.2.5 NMAC -Rp, 20 NMAC 11.02.1.5,7/1/2001

20.11.2.6

A.

(1)

the Department;

(2) Reasonable fees to cover the cost of implementing and enforcing the terms and conditions of any

permit issued by the Department; and,

(3) A schedule of operating permit fees consistent with section 502(b)(3) of Clean Air Act and the

Joint Air Quality Control Board Ordinances;

B. To implement the requirements ofsection 507 of federal Clean Air Act by establishing adequate

funding for a small business stationary source technical and environmental compliance assistance program; and

C. To establish reasonable fees to cover the administrative expenses incurred by the Department in

implementing and enforcing the provisions of the New Mexico Air Quality Control Act, the Joint Air Quality

Control Board Ordinances, and the AlbuquerquelBernalillo County Air Quality Control Board Regulations.

D. This Part is permanent. However, a mandatory review of the permit fee regulation shall be

conducted by the Board within two-year period from the date of adoption.

[20.11.2.6 NMAC -Rp, 20 NMAC 11.02.1.6,7/1/2001]

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Any pollutant that is subject to any standard established in Section 111 ofthe Federal Act;

Any Class I or II substance subject to any standard established in Title VI of the federal Act; or

Any pollutant subject to a standards or requirements established in Section 112 of the federal Act,

H.

20.11.2.7 DEFINITIONS: Throughout this Part, the terms defined shall have the following meanings. For

the purpose of this Part, if there is any apparent conflict between the meaning of a definition in this Part and a

definition in another Part, the definition in this Part shall prevail and apply.

A. "Allowable Emission Rate" means the most stringent emission limit that has been established by a

permit issued by the Department or the source's potential-to-emit.

B. "Emissions Unit" means any part or activity of a stationary or portable source that emits or has the

potential to emit any fee pollutant.

C. "Fee Pollutant" means:

(1) Sulfur dioxide (SOx);

(2) Nitrogen dioxide based on total oxides of nitrogen (NOx);

(3) Carbon monoxide (CO);

(4) Particulate matter with an aerodynamic diameter less than or equal to 30 micrometers (TSP);

(5) Any volatile organic compound as defined in 40 CFR 51.100(s), as amended;

(6) Any hazardous air pollutant listed pursuant to section 112(b) of the Federal Clean Air Act; and,

(7) Any regulated substance listed pursuant to section 112(r) of the federal Clean Air Act.

(8) Any other pollutant determined by the Board after public hearing.

D. "Fugitive Emissions" means those emissions that cannot reasonably pass through a stack,

chimney, vent, or other functionally equivalent opening.

E. "Major Source" shall have the meaning defined in 40 CFR 71.2.

F. "Potential-To-Emit" or "PTE" means the maximum capacity of a stationary source to emit any air

pollutant under its physical and operational design. Any physical or operational limitation on the capacity ofsource

to emit an air pollutant, including air pollution control equipment, restrictions on hours of operation or on type or

amount of material combusted, stored or processed, shall be treated as part of its design if integral to the process or

the limitation is federally enforceable through permit or regulation. Any limitation on emissions due to process

design must be unchanging and unavoidable physical constraints. The potential-to-emit for nitrogen oxide shall be

based on total oxides of nitrogen.

G. "Qualified Small Business" means:

(1) A business that has 100 or fewer employees;

(2) Is a small business concern as defined by the federal Small Business Act;

(3) Does not emit more than 50 tons per year of any regulated air pollutant, or 75 tons per year of all

regulated air pollutants; and

(4) Is not a major source of hazardous air pollutants.

"Regulated Air Pollutant" means the following:

Nitrogen oxides, total suspended particulate matter, or any volatile organic compounds;

Any pollutant for which a national, state or local ambient air quality standard has been

(1)

(2)

promulgated;

(3)

(4)

(5)

including:

(a) Any pollutant subject to requirements under Section 112(j) of the federal Act; and

(b) Any pollutant for which the requirements of section 112(g)(2) of the federal Act have been

met, but only with respect to the individual source·subject to the requirements.

I. "State Air Toxic Review" means a case-by-case permit application review of the potential

emissions of toxic air pollutants listed in 20.2.72 NMAC, Construction Permits, Subsection IV, Permits for Toxic

Air Pollutant Emissions.

J. "Stationary Source with De Minimis Emissions" means a source, unless otherwise regulated, with

a potential-to-emit:

(1) Less than 5 tons per year of any regulated air pollutant, excluding hazardous air pollutants;

(2) Less than 2 tons per year of any hazardous air pollutant;

(3) 5 tons or less of any combination of hazardous air pollutants per year; or

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(4) 20 percent of any lesser threshold per year for a single hazardous air pollutant established by the

Environmental Protection Agency by rule.

[20.11.2.7 NMAC - Rp, 20 NMAC 11.02.1.7,7/1/2001]

20.11.2.8 SAVINGS CLAUSE: Any amendment to 20.11:2 NMAC that is filed with the State Records

Center shall not affect actions pending for violation of a federal or state statute or regulation, a City or County

ordinance, or any Board regulation. Prosecution for a violation under prior regulation wording shall be governed

and prosecuted under the statute, ordinance, part or regulation section in effect at the time the violation was

committed.

[20.11.2.8 NMAC - Rp, 20 NMAC 11.02.1.9,7/1/2001]

20.11.2.9 SEVERABILITY: If any section, paragraph, sentence, clause or word of this Part or federal, state

or local standard incorporated herein is for any reason held to be unconstitutional or otherwise invalid by any court,

the decision shall not affect the validity of the remaining provisions of this Part.

[20.11.2.9 NMAC - Rp, 20 NMAC 11.02.I.lO, 7/1/2001]

20.11.2.10 DOCUMENTS: Documents cited and incorporated in this Part may be viewed at the Albuquerque

Environmental Health Department, One Civic Plaza NW, 3rd Floor, Room 3023, Albuquerque, NM 87102.

[20.11.2.10 NMAC - Rp, 20 NMAC 11.02.I.ll, 7/1/2001]

20.11.2.11 GENERAL PROVISIONS:

A. At the time of application, any person, including a federal, state or local governmental agency,

who files an application pursuant to 20.11.41 NMAC, Authority-to-Construct, for an initial air quality review and

authority to proceed with construction or requesting to modify an existing air quality permit shall pay the permit fee

required by this Part.

B. Any new or existing stationary source that meets the applicability requirements of this Part shall

pay an annual emission fee based on the source's potential-to-emit. Sources wishing to reduce their potential-toemit may do so at any time through the provisions of 20.11.41 NMAC, Authority-to-Construct.

C. At the time ofsubmittal, any person filing an application for a Surface Disturbance Permit with

the Department pursuant to 20.11.20 NMAC, Airborne Particulate Matter, shall pay the applicable filing and

inspection fee required by this Part.

D. At the time of notification, any person notifying the Department pursuant to 20.11.64 NMAC,

Emission Standards for Hazardous Air Pollutants for Stationary Source, of the removal of regulated asbestos

containing material shall pay the applicable fee required by this Part.

E. No application will be reviewed or permit issued unless the owner/operator provides documentary

proof satisfactory to the Department that either all applicable fees have been paid as required by this Part, or the

owner/operator has been granted a variance in accordance with 20.11.7 NMAC, Variance Procedures.

F. All fees required to be paid at the time of application shall be paid by check or money order

payable to the "City of Albuquerque, Permits Program (Fund 242)" and either be delivered in person to the

Environmental Health Department, Finance Section, 3rd floor, Room 3023, AlbuquerquelBernalillo County

Government Center (City Hall), One Civic Plaza NW, Albuquerque, NM, or mailed to Attn: Finance Section,

Environmental Health Department, P.O. Box 1293, Albuquerque, NM 87103. The Finance Section then shall send a

receipt to the applicant. The applicant shall attach a copy of the receipt issued by the Finance Section to the

application as proof of payment. The Air Quality Division cannot accept direct payments.

G. No person required to pay an annual emission fee pursuant to this Part shall be in compliance with

their permit unless all applicable fees are paid as required by this Part.

H. No fee required by this Part shall be refunded without the written approval of the Director. When

determining the amount of the refund, the Director may deduct a reasonable professional service fee to cover the

costs of staff time involved in processing a permit or request.

[20.11.2.11 NMAC - N, 7/1/2001]

20.11.2.12 AUTHORITY-TO-CONSTRUCT PERMIT FEES; FEE CALCULATIONS AND

PROCEDURES

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A. General Permits for Minor and Area Sources: Sources applying for a General Permit pursuant to

20.11.41 NMAC, Authority-to-Construct, shall pay the applicable fee found in section 18 of this Part.

B. Case-by-Case Air Quality Review Prior to the Construction of a Stationary Source:

(1) Case-by-case air quality application review fees shall be calculated based on the proposed

source's potential-to-emit fee pollutants. Federally approved State Implementation Plan limitations may be used to

determine a source's potential-to-emit.

(2) Fugitive emissions shall be included in the source's potential-to-emit.

(3) Emissions from operations determined by the Department to be insignificant activities shall not be

included in the calculation.

(4) For each fee pollutant, calculate the potential-to-emit for each proposed emission unit to the

nearest tenth of a ton. Total the fee pollutants from each emission unit and express the value in tons per calendar

year as a whole number. When rounding, if the number after the decimal point is less than 5, the whole number

remains unchanged. If the number after the decimal point is 5 or greater, the whole number shall be rounded up to

next whole number.

(5) The application review fee shall be determined by comparing the source's calculated potential-toemit with the fee schedule found in section 18 of this Part.

(6) In addition to the application review fees, a source proposing to construct any emission unit or

units that must comply with the provisions of 20.11.60 NMAC, Permitting in Nonattainment Areas, 20.11.61

NMAC, Prevention of Significant Deterioration, 20.11.62 NMAC, Acid Rain, 20.11.63 NMAC, New Source

Performance Standards for Stationary Sources, or 20.11.64 NMAC, Emission Standards for Hazardous Air

Pollutants for Stationary Sources, also shall pay the applicable federal program review fees listed in section 18 of

this Part.

(7) Example: A company proposes to build a facility with a NSPS boiler with a potential-to-emit of

greater than 100 tons per year of NOx. From the fee schedule found in section 18 of this Part, the company will be

required to pay an initial air quality review fee of $5,000.00 with an addition federal program review fee of

$1,000.00 for the NSPS boiler, for a total fee of $6,000.00. The review fee shall be submitted at the time of

application in accordance with the procedures found in subsections E and F of 20.11.2.11 NMAC.

(8) Sources submitting an application for the removal ofregulated asbestos containing material

pursuant to 20.11.64 NMAC shall comply with the provisions of20.11.2.14 NMAC.

C. Permit Modifications:

(1) At the time of application, any source proposing to modify an existing air quality permit shall pay

the applicable fee found in section 18 of this Part.

(2) Any proposed modifications to an existing air quality permit that must comply with the provisions

of 20.11.60 NMAC, Permitting in Non-Attainment Areas, 20.11.61 NMAC, Prevention of Significant Deterioration,

20.11.62 NMAC, Acid Rain, 20.11.63 NMAC, New Source Performance Standards for Stationary Sources, or

20.11.64 NMAC, Emission Standards for Hazardous Air Pollutants for Stationary Sources, the applicant shall also

pay the applicable federal review fee, but only with respect to the individual emission unit subject to the

requirement.

D. Qualified small business shall pay one-half of the calculated case-by-case air quality review fees

prior to adding any federal program review or state toxic review fees.

[20.11.2.12 NMAC -Rp, 20 NMAC 11.02.11.1,7/1/2001]

20.11.2.13 ANNUAL EMISSION FEES; FEE CALCULATIONS AND PROCEDURES

A. By June 1 of each year, the Department shall send each owner/operator a letter stating the fee

amount owed. The owner/operator has 45 days from receipt of the letter to contact the Department to request a

correction to the records or submit an application to modify an existing permit reducing the source's allowable

emission rate.

B. Starting August 1 of each year, each owner/operator shall be sent an official invoice by the City of

Albuquerque stating the annual emission fee due, which the owner/operator shall pay consistent with the directions

stated in the invoice.

C. As required by 74-2-16 NMSA, all monies received pursuant to this section shall be deposited in

the City of Albuquerque, Permits Program (Fund 242).

D. Calculating Annual Emission Fees:

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(1) For each source, the potential-to-emit for each fee pollutant shall be totaled and expressed in tons

per calendar year as a whole number. When rounding, if the number after the decimal point is less than 5, the whole

number remains unchanged. If the number after the decimal point is 5 or greater, the whole number shall be

rounded up to next whole number.

(2) The sum of each fee pollutant shall be multiplied by the appropriate annual emission fee listed in

section 18 of this Part then totaled, to determine the annual emission fee due.

(3) The source shall pay either the minimum annual emission fee or the calculated emission fee

whichever is greater.

E. Sources wishing to reduce their potential-to-emit may apply for a permit or modify their existing

permit consistent with the provisions of 20.11.41 NMAC, Authority-to-Construct.

[20.11.2.13 NMAC - Rp, 20 NMAC l1.02.II.2, 7/1/2001]

20.11.2.14 FILING AND INSPECTION FEES FOR THE REMOVAL OF REGULATED ASBESTOS

CONTAINING MATERIAL; FEE CALCULATIONS AND PROCEDURES

A. At the time of notification, a filing and inspection fee shall be paid by the owner/operator

removing regulated asbestos containing material pursuant to 20.11.64 NMAC, Emission Standards for Hazardous

Air Pollutants for Stationary Sources, and the federal regulations incorporated therein.

B. The filing and inspection fee shall be calculated by multiplying the Asbestos Unit (AU) by the

applicable fee in 20.11.2.18. Equation 1 shall be used to calculate the total Asbestos Units (AU) and amount due:

(1) Total Due = [(SF / 160) + (LF / 260) + (CF /35)] x AU (Equation 1)

(2) Where: SF = Square feet of asbestos containing material to be removed; LF = Linear feet of

asbestos containing material to be removed; CF = Cubic feet of asbestos containing material to be removed; and AU

= Asbestos Unit.

(3) Example: A contractor proposes to remove 320 square feet (SF), 260 linear feet (LF) and 70

cubic feet (CF) of regulated asbestos containing mate~ial.

(4) From the example above: SF=320; LF=260; CF=70; and AU=$21.00 (From section 18 of this

Part) /1 (5) From Equation 1: [(SF /160) + (LF /260) + (CF /35)] x AU = [(320/160) + (260/260) + (70/ l/ 35)] x $21.00 = (2 + 1 + 2) x $21.00 = 5 x $21.00 = $105.00

(6) Result: The contractor must pay $105.00 at the time of notification.

C. All fees due pursuant to this section shall be paid in accordance with the procedures found in

subsections D, E and F of 20.11.2.11 NMAC.

[20.11.2.14 NMAC - Rp, 20 NMAC l1.02.II.2, 7/1/2001]

20.11.2.15 FILING AND INSPECTION FEES FOR SURFACE DISTURBANCE PERMITS; FEE

CALCULATIONS AND PROCEDURES

A. A filing and inspection fee shall be paid by each person requesting a Surface Disturbance Permit

pursuant to 20.11.20 NMAC, Airborne Particulate Matter.

B. The filing and inspection fee shall be calculated by multiplying the acreage to be disturbed,

expressed as a whole number, by the applicable fee found in section 18 of this Part. When rounding, if the number

after the decimal point is less than 5, the whole number remains unchanged. If the number after the decimal point is

5 or greater, the whole number shall be rounded up to the next whole number.

C. All fees due pursuant to this section shall be paid in accordance with the procedures found in

subsections C, E and F of 20.11.2.11 NMAC.

[20.11.2.15 NMAC - N, 7/1/2001]

20.11.2.16 FEE ERRORS, CORRECTIONS AND REFUNDS

A. Within 30 days of receiving any invoice from the City, any person who does not agree with the

amount due may request a review by the Director to correct any errors or challenge the basis upon which the fee was

computed. Ifthe Director has not received a written request or challenge within 30 days after the payor receives the

invoice, the invoice shall be final.

B. Iffees are due at the time of application, the payor must pay the required fee, then request a

review within 30 days of payment.

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C. All written requests for review shall be sent to: Division Manager, Air Quality Division,

Environmental Health Department, Air Quality Division, P.O. Box 1293, Albuquerque, NM 87103

D. The request for review must include:

(1) The name of the owner/operator, address and telephone number;

(2) The dollar amount of the alleged error; and

(3) A description of the alleged error and any other information the payor believes may support the

claim.

E. Within 30 days ofreceiving the request for review, the Director shall audit the account and, either:

(1) Amend the invoice or bill and refund any money due the payor; or

(2) State the invoice or bill is correct.

F. The Director may confer with the payor to obtain additional information during the audit period.

G. Within 10 working days of the Director's decision concerning the review, the decision shall be

sent by certified mail to address provided by the payor.

H. If a refund is due, the Department shall refund any money due consistent with the policies and

procedures of the City of Albuquerque.

1. The Director's decision may be appealed to the Board.

[20.11.2.16 NMAC - N, 7/112001]

20.11.2.17 FAILURE TO PAY

A. It shall be a violation of this Part to fail to pay any fee required by this Part, Director's decision, or

Board regulation.

B. Stating an invoice is in error shall not be a defense to this section.

C. In addition to paying past due fees the payor shall pay a penalty of 50 percent of the fee amount,

plus interest on the fee amount computed in accordance with section 6621(a)(2) of the Internal Revenue Code of

1986 (relating to computation of interest on underpayment of federal taxes).

[20.11.2.17 NMAC - Rp, 20 NMAC 11.02.11.2,7/112001]

20.11.2.18 FEE SCHEDULE

A. Annual Emission Fees: Sources issued a registration or permit pursuant to 20.11.40 NMAC,

Source Registration, 20.11.41 NMAC, Authority-To-Construct, or 20.11.42 NMAC, Operating Permits, shall pay a

minimum annual emission fee of $150.00 or the annual emission fee calculated consistent with section 13 of this

Part, which ever is greater. The following fee pollutant rates shall be used in calculating the annual emission fee,

unless otherwise listed:

(1) Non-Hazardous Fee Pollutants: $31.00 per ton;

(2) Hazardous Fee Pollutants (Non-Major Sources): $31.00 per ton;

(3) Hazardous Fee Pollutants (Major Sources): $250.00 per ton.

(4) Annual Emission Fees for Specific Source Categories:

(a) Auto Body Repair and Painting:

(i) One Spray Booth: No Charge

(ii) Two or more spray booths: $150.00

(b) Chromium Electroplating: $150.00

(c) Degreasers Using Organic Solvents:

(i) Non-halogenated solvents- using less than 2,200 gallons of anyone solventcontaining material, and 5,400 gallons of any combination of solvent-containing materials: $150.00

(ii) Halogenated solvents- using less than 1,200 gallons on anyone solvent-containing

material, and 2,900 gallons of any combination of solvent-containing materials: $150.00

(d) Dry Cleaners (Non-Major): $150.00

(e) Emergency Generators: $150.00

(f) Gasoline Service and Fleet Stations: $250 or $31.00 per ton, which ever is greater;

(g) Natural gas or distillate fueled fired boilers less than 10 million BTU used exclusively for

residential, commercial or institutional heating and hot water: No Charge

(h) Printing, Publishing and Packaging Operations:

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40 CFR 60 Standards: $1,000.00

40 CFR 61 Standards: $1,000.00

40 CFR 63 Standards:

(a) Promulgated Standards: $2,000.00

(b) Case-By-Case MACT Review: $10,000.00

PSD/Non-Attainment Review: $5,000.00

Acid Rain Review: $5,000.00

State Toxic Air Pollutant Review: $500.00

Permit Modifications:

P2 Modifications: No Charge

Minor/Flexible Permit Modifications: $1,000.00

Major Modifications: $5,000.00

Portable Source Relocation Fee: $250.00

Administrative Modifications to Existing Permit: $100.00

Surface Disturbance Permit Filing and Inspection Fee: $100.00 per acre

Asbestos Unit (AU): $21.00

Administrative Fees:

Professional Services Fee: $75.00 per staff hour

Photocopying:

(1)

(2)

(3)

(4)

(5)

(6)

(7)

(8)

(9)

(4)

(5)

(6)

(1)

(2)

(3)

(1)

(2)

B.

c.

E.

F.

G.

H.

I.

J.

D.

Review Fees:

(1)

(2)

(3)

(i) Sheetfed (nonheatset) offset lithography using less than 7,125 gallons of clean solvent

and fountain solution additives per year: $150.00

(ii) Nonheatset web offset lithography using less than 7,125 gallons ofsolvent and

fountain solution additive per year: $150.00

(iii) Heatset web offset lithography using less than 50,000 pounds of ink, cleaning

solvent, and fountain solution additives: $150 .

(iv) Screen printing using less than 7,125 gallons of total solvent used including solventbased inks, cleaning solvents, adhesives and coatings: $150.00

(v) Flexography (water-based or UV-cured inks, coating and adhesives) using less than

200,000 pounds total of inks, coatings and adhesives: $150.00

(i) Soil and/or water remediation operations: $150.00

U) Stationary sources with de minimis emissions: No Charge

General Air Quality Review Fees for New Sources (Minor Source General Permits):

Auto body repair and painting: $500.00

Dry cleaners: $500.00

Emergency generators (natural gas or distillate fuel): $500.00

Generic coating and abrasive operations: $500.00

Other fueling facilities receiving fuel by truck or rail (Non-NSPS): $1000.00

Non-NSPS Boilers (Greater than 10 Million BTU): $500.00

Printing and packaging operations: $500.00

Retail and fleet gasoline service stations: $500.00

Soil/water remediation systems: $1000.00

Case-by-Case Air Quality Review Fees for New Sources (Based on a Source's Potential-to-Emit):

(1) Proposed sources with a potential-to-emit equal to or greater than 5 tons per year and less than 25

tons per year: $1,000.00

(2) Proposed sources with a potential-to-emit equal to or greater than 25 tons per year and less than

50 tons per year: $2,000.00

(3) Proposed sources with a potential-to-emit equal to or greater than 50 tons per year and less than

75 tons per year: $3,000.00

(4) Proposed sources with a potential-to-emit equal to or greater than 75 tons per year and less than

100 tons per year: $4,000.00 '

(5) Proposed sources with a potential-to-emit equal to or greater than 100 tons per year: $5,000.00

Federal Program and State Toxic Air Pollutant Review Fees; In Addition to the Air Quality

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(a) First 10 Pages: $0.50 per page

(b) Additional Pages: $1.00 per page

(3) Regulation Compilation: $20.00

(4) Public Records Research Fee: $50.00 per staff hour

[20.11.2.18 NMAC - Rp, 20 NMAC 11.02.II.2, 7/1/2001]

HISTORY of 20.11.2 NMAC:

Pre-NMAC History:

Material in the part was derived from that previously filed with the commission of public records - state records

center and archives under:

Resolution 1, Air Pollution Control Regulations of the Albuquerque/Bernalillo County Air Quality Control Board,

filed 8-06-71;

Regulation 1, Air Pollution Control Regulations, filed 6-06-73;

Regulation 1, Air Pollution Control Regulations, filed 7-19-73;

ReguJation 1, Air Pollution Control Regulations, filed 3-21-77;

Regulation No. 21, Permit Fees, filed 3-24-82;

Regulation No. 21, Permit Fees, filed 8-19-83; ()

Regulation No. 21, Permit Fees, filed 3-~ ,

Regulation No. 21, Permit Fees, filed 12-16-94.

History of Repealed Material: 20 NMAC 11.02, Permit Fees, filed 10-27-95.

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Other History: Regulation No. 21, Permit Fees, filed 12-<1,(1294 renumbered and reformatted to 20 NMAC 11.02,

Permit Fees, filed 10-27-95;

20 NMAC 11.02, Permit Fees, filed 10-27-95 replaced by 20.11.2 NMAC, Permit Fees, effective 711/2001.

20.11.2 NMAC ·8
ATTACHMENT B

Attachment B contains copies ofthe exhibits admitted at the 2/14/01 hearing.
,

AlbuquerquelBernalillo Count)·

Air Quality Control Board

Staff's Proposal to Repeal and Replace 20.1 1.2 NMAC, Permit Fees

List of Starr Exhibits

Number

Exhibit # I

Exhibit #2

Exhibit #3

Exhibit #4

Exhibit #5

Exhibit #6

Exhibit #7

Exhibit #8

Exhibit #9

Exhibit # lO

Exhibit #11

Exhibit #12

Exhibit #13

Exhibit #14

Title

New Mexico Register. Vol. XI. No. 24, 12/29/00

Albuquerque Journal Notice, 11710 I

Mailing List

Letter From Ms. Jole C. Luehrs. Region 6, U.S. Environmental

Protection Agency

'Letter From Mr. George K. LaskaI', Department of Energy.

Albuquerque Operations Office

Letter From Mr. Jim Goins, Plant Manager, General Mills

Letter From Ms. Nancy Norem. Principal Engineer. PNM

Letter From Mr. Brian McGill, Corporate Environmental Manager, Rio

Grande Portland Cement

Letter From Mr. Kurt Browning. Land Development Manager, Sandia

Properties Ltd.

Current Version of 20.11.2 NMAC, Permit Fees

Proposed Draft of 20.11.2 NMAC, Permit Fees, with Floor

Amendments Added.

Testimony of Mr. Michael D. Smith, Environmental Health

Department, Air Quality Division

Table I - New Source Review (NSR) Fee Comparison

Table 2 - Fee Comparison for Dust Control Activities
New Mexico Register / Vol. XI, No. 24/ Dec. 29, 2000 2001

NOTICES OF RULE MAKING AND PROPOSED RULES

IlIIIJ!I!IIlfIIIII!I__~~__• Staff Exhibit # I - New Mexico Register

Notice, Vol. XI, No. 24, 12129/00

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NEW MEXICO

ALBUQUERQUEIBERNALILLO

COUNTY AIR QUALITY

CONTROL BOARD

NonCE OF HEARINGS AND MEETING

On w~ F~ry 14, 2001, at 5:00

p.m.. tne AlD...QI.Ie'ftI..egerna1i1lo County AIr

QualllY Cc:r"Irroo ea.":! fBoard) will hold a

PublIC ,..,nng • Ik.OC meeting In the

Couno~!IoaoO" ~. 100000r level,

AJbuaUl!''Oue'9rwl~ Ccu1Iy GovenYl"l8l1l

Center 1A."9CQCi O'w CMc: Plaza, 400

Man:IIJl!"t11' A~ NW Fifth Street and

Merquene "ffl OOW> IiOW' i "'Duqusrque, NM.

The PloI"1Xl'N' d me- .......nng is to hear

lesTIl"o''¥ C)I"'I ~II"Q' and repladng

20.11.2 NUAC p.l1'ft'~ Feel

As ruaUl'80 tJtt ,... Meu:o Air 0uaI1ty

Cornro /Ie. 74-2-7 NMSA b Board must

9Stab!IV> I'8DlJf\8Dl' t:l COo/'8f Itle oosts of

f'l"YIeW'N1lQ ectJng O"l 8"" ., quality P8rrnr ~lCablJf'1lo rvc::PY8O rcu.oll"lg Itle ongoing

COS1S rI "6C\OC.'t1CIr' rei noementing and

entoron; ,... ~.adrtlOn. the New

MexICO /Ie. rug"",,. tne Boan::I to es1ablish a

Sd"leOUIe rI 8"'IS6O"'I QJI'lSIStenl with the

PI'CYl$ICIr'a d -.ecDOf"I !lQ2ID)(J) 01 tne fedetaJ

Clean AI, Ac. f1eoera Aell lor SOurces that

I1!QLMe an ClPO'atll'lg r:er"'TW1 Durauanl1D TIUe V

01 b teoer.: Ac. To meet theM

reQl.trementl tne alB1f tor Itle Boan:i Is

proPCJSIl'lg ID ... ana replaCe 20.11 .2

NMAC.~F_

AppbcatlO"l Rf'YIItW Feel The SIS" il atso

proDOsmg t't\81 me fOllOWIng feee be paid

With en 8D01C811Q1't to" or modification to

and Autnonty·to-Cons1ruc:1 Penn":

') Proposea aources WIth a pcnential-toemil reguialeG ." pollutants greater lhan 5

lonl per yeer and leU IhBn 25 tons per

year: $1.000 00.

2) Proposera MJurT;eI WIth e potential·toemil regulatea a.' POllutants equal 10 or

g,eeter rnan 2~ tOl"a pe, y88r end less than

SO tOl"a pe,,..r 52.000 00;

3) ProDOSea SOurces With a potential·toemil reguleteG a" POllutants equal to or

greater tN.n SO 10l"a per yeer and less than

75 IOns pe' year SJ.OOO.OO;

4} Propoua sources with a potential·toemit regulaleG air pollUlents emissions

equal 10 or graaler tnan 75 tons per yur

and less than 100 tons per yaar: $4 ,000.00:

5) Proposed sources wttn a potential-toemit regulated elr pOllutants equal to or

greater than tOO Ions per year: $5,000.00.

Pennit Moclirications:

1) Pollution Prevention (P2) ModlflcattOfl8:

No Charge;

2) Minor/Flexible Permit Modifications:

$1.000.00;

3) Major MOdifications: $5,000.00.

AddJtionaJ Proposed Requirements: Any

source thai must comply with following

federal standards shall pay the following

tees in addition to the above leea:

1) 40 CFR 60 Siandards: $1,000.00:

2) 40 CFR 61 Standards: $1.000.00;

3) 40 CFR 63 Slandarda:

a) Promulgated Standards: $2.000.00;

b) Casa-By-Case MACTR";_ $10,000.00;

4) PSOJNon-Attainment RBYiew: 5S,(XXl.OO;

S) Acid Rain Raviaw: $5,000.00.

Annual Fees: The staff is proposing to remove !he current provision Ihat ellow

ma}or end non-major sources to pay annual

fees based on the fiouree's aClual emission

dunng the previous year. Sources wishing

10 reduce t~eir .potentlal-to-emit may epply

for a modllrcabDn through the provisions

20.11.41 NMAC. Authority-to-Construct.

The proposed Part 02 requires all air

pollUilon sources tnat have registrations or

permits issued by the Environmental Health

Department (Depanment) to pay an annual

emllllOn ree baed on the .auree's

potenbal-10 emH:. The proposed fees are:

1) Non-Hazardous Fee Pollutants: $31.00

per ton:

2) HazalOous Fee Pollutants (Non-Major

Sourcn~: $31.00 per Ion; and

3) Hazardous Fee PoIlUlants (Major

Sources): 52SO per tOn.

SurlllOll lld1urbanca Penni! Foe: Also, as part III lila cnangas III 20.11.2 NMAC. Permit

Fees. the Oepanment is proposing an

Il"l5I)8CSO'l end NII"Ig lee ID obIain a Surface

o.etLll'D8f'Q Permit pursuant to 20.' 1.20

NMAC. "-tlorne PaMICulat8 Mettsr al $100.00

per eae dlslurt8:J.

AabeslOilnspectlon Fea: Tha Department

is not proposing to Change the current

Aabes101 Unit (AU) fee. whiCh will ramaln 8t

$21.00.

The foltowing administrative fees are also

proposad:

1) Permit Amendmants (Admin/stratn

ColTllCtions): $100.00;

2) Professional Services Fee: 575.00 per

staff hour;

3) Phofocopying:

a) First' 0 Pages: $O.SO per page;

b) AddItional Pages: 51.00 per page;

4) Ragulalion Books: $20.00:

5) Public Records Research Fee: 5SO.00

per staff hour.

Persorw desiring ttl present t8Chnical

testimony should sl.Jbrrit a \Nfltten mtice of

intent ttl; AtIn: 20.11.2 NMAC Hearing, Mr.

Midlaal D. SmtIh, Envirormanlli Health

Department, P.O. Box 1293, Albuquerque NM

87103. or in person i'I Room 3032, NBCGI::.,

by Fat>ruary 7, 2001. The rctice must induda:

name, add.... and qualll\catJorw of aad1

ted'rkaI witness; identlficeltlon of whether the

witness Is a proponent, opponent or Interested

pa<SOn; dascrtp!ion of lila natunl of lila

anticipa1ed lastimony; antIcipallld length of

aad1 ..tnessas' prgsantallon: idantllicaUon of

tile speclfie _ of lila proposad sction III

which IeStimony wllI 00 directad: any

altematllle ianguaga proposals, whano

sppropnata: and list and _00 tacMiCaJ

exhibits anticipated ttl be offered in connection

_1ha _ ...1as1Imony.

In addition, written statements to be

incorporated Into the public record should

also be sent to ebove address by February

7, 2001, and must Include the name and

eddress of the Individual submitting the

statement.

inmldistaly loIlowirv lila hoartrv lila Iloatd

wlt hold I1s raguIaI1y _.- montI1ly

""'""'sl and may _ lila stIlt's proposal

10 _ and replace 20.11.2 NMAC. Parmlt

F....

Interested persona may obtain a copy 01

Ihe staff's proposal at the Environmental

Health Department OffICe or contact Mr.

Michaal D. SmtIh at (50S) 768-1961

(rndS""thOcabq.gov).

NOTiCE TO PERSONS WrTH

DISABILITIES: /I you hava a diSability and

require special uslstance to partidpate In

this meeting, pleua cont8ct Mr. Michael D.

Smith. Environmentaj Haalth Department,

Room 3023. A1buquarque!BemaliNo County

Govemment Cen18r, 788-1961 (Voice).

768-19n (FAX) or 768-2482 (TTY), as

soon u possibla prior to the meeting data.

Public documents. Indudlng agendas and

minutes. can be provided In vanous

accessible forma18.
- .·...,.taff - ~~~:-. E%hibit #2 - Albuquerque Journal

Nonce, 117/01

, YJ sequent eon,ecutiv. public.'I"'" on

,~.

" ,• A

,.orn. 'Ub'~~~.fnr. me, • Notary ""bile, In

and for~e6imty ernollUo and St••• <If New Me.,,,,,

1m.. day i n of 2001.

Statement'. come nl end ora-"-

ACCOUNT NUM;B£R , ;) b '5".20

CLA·22-A (R-lJ93)

STATE OF NEW MEXlCO

County of Bernalillo 5S

Bill Tafoya, bein~ duly 'WOrn, dod.,..,. and .ay. tbal he i. C)u.ified

AdveMlsing MS0"llel" of TIle Albuq"""'lue J""I>III, and lbat 'his newspap.,. '"

duly quallffed to publiSh l.~ notic.. or .dverti..,,,,••,,, within l!Ie m"""ina of

SoCli"D 3, On"••• 167, Session La,.s of 1~37,."d that p.y"'en! !boeefu,. bas

been mad. of ••••,sed as CDun CQ"; ,hot the notice, copy of which ,. hereto

"'1"cbed, was publilhed In 'aid papet in the relloler daU7dltlOU, far

~... the firs. publication belnll all. th. day of
\

._.- ----------------~-
Staff Exhibit #3 - Mailing List (Available Upon Request)
UNmo STATES ENVIRONMENTAL PRoTECnON AGENCY

REGIONe

1446 ROSS AVENUE, SUITE 1200

DALLAS, TX 75202-2733

Mr. Mike smith

Environmental Health Department

P.O. Box 1293

Albuquerque, NM 87103

RE: 20 New Mexico Administrative Code 2.11.2, Permit Fees

Dear Mr. Smi th:

This is in response to your January 11, 2001, letter for the

sUbject item proposals for your February 14, 2001, Albuquer~~e

Air Quality Board hearing. These proposalS are to meet

requirements of ~he New Mexico Air Quality Control Ac~, 74-2-7,

NMSA.

Your proposals for these Permit Fees regulations are a

thoughtful fee schedule that comports with Federal and state law.

These proposals are easy to apply and adjust, and are equitable

to sources filing Air Permit Applications received, inc:uding the

ongoing costs of inspections and implementing and enforcing the

permits. We will not object to the Air Quality Board's efforts

to pay for the New Source Review Construction Permitt~ng Program

through the collection of these fees from applicants and

permittees.

Thank you for the opportunity to comment on these proposals.

Please contact Terry Thomas of my staff at (214) 665~7160 if you

have any questions.

Sincere?/~urs,

d/f;~.~ Chief

Air Permits Sectio~

• ~II!!I!!!II!I!II"'~ IIIIIII!I!IIIIIII!I~II!III.I Staff Exhibit #4 - Letter From Ms. Iole

C. Luehrs. EPA Region 6
Department of Energy

Albuquerque Operations Office

Kirtland Area Office

PO Box 5400

Albuquerque, New Mexico 87185-5400

-

FEB 0 7 Z001

Mr, Michael D, Smith

Environmental Health Department

P, 0, Box 1293

Albuquerque, New Mexico 87103-1293

Dear Mr. Smith:

Enclosed is a notice of intent to testify at the Air Quality Control Board hearing and

regular monthly meeting on February 14, 2001. Testimony will be presented on

the proposed changes to the New Mexico Administralive Code (NMAC) Chapter

20, Title 11, Part 02, Permit Fees. If you have any questions, or need additional

information, please contact Susan Lacy of my staff at 845·5542. Thank you for

your assistance.

Sincerely,

Enclosure

cc wlo enclosure:

K. Griffith, KAO

M. du Mond, 7575, MS 1042

.~I!!!I!!I!I!II~!II.~"'-_. Staff Exhibit #5 - Letter Prom Mr.

George K. Laskar, DOE
--- ,-"-' .. VI' ~- ....'- "t

IlSandia National laboratories

O_lOCI lor Iho UB C""""'" of En_

8IIndl. Corpomton

L.A._

0""''''' InlIll_ S....& B,...""c_

Mr. George K. Laskar

Laborlltory Operations

DOE I Kirtland Area Office

Post Oftke Box 5800

Albuquerque, NM 87IS5·~400

Attention: Susan D. Lacy

DellJ' Mr. Lasknr:

rr.

PO. Boo llIOD

A/OlnA;rqul. frW e71l11~1114

PhON: (605) .11. 'Ole (508) ..5__

Intlfnl'" 1...........411 QICN 1_

Su~iect: City 01 Albuquerque', Proposed Permit Fee RcplatlOD RevilioD: Notice olloteot

Key

l"naadoD

The legal notice published in tbe Albuquerque Journal on January 7, 2001,

stales thllt persons desiring to present technical testimony befure the Air

Quality (;()nlrol AOlIJ'd on February 14 should submit II written notice ofintent.

The notice mu.,t inclwe:

• Name, addre:;.•, and qllQliflcQtlons ofeach technical witness:

• Name: Mike du MoDd .

• Address: Post Olm:e Box 5800, Albuqucfque, N. M. 87185-1042

• Qualification: Sandia's Air Quality Compliance Tellltl Project Leader

• ldentljlcation ofwhether the witness Is a proponent or opponent:

• OpponenJ: To removal of20 NMAC 11.02.lI.2.4F AnllllQllnventory.

• Description ofthe natll/'fl ofthe proposed testimony:

• To provide evidenco that inventories encourage pollution prevention.

• Anticipated /(mgth ofeach witne.u· presentation:

• presentation !dlould be no more than fifteen minutes in length.

• ldentljlcatl"n ofthe specific aspects ofthe proposed action to which

testimony will be directed: The technical testimony will specifically

address the reasons fur retaining the annual emlssion inventory provi5iorL

• Any (J/ternatlve language proposal.f, where appropriate:

• Retain the current '-nguage of20 NMAC 02.II2.4.F dated 5-30-97.

• List and describe technical uhibits anticipatesto be o/If/red In connection

with the witness testi1llllny: None.
Me. Geol'l!e K. La.~kar - 2- its 1 2001

.-

TraDlmlt

Information

Certllkatlon

LAW:7131:md

A Mitten notice ofintent !!boWd be sent by February 7, 200l.

Please transmit a written statement regarding these impacts by February 7, to:

Attn: 20.1 J.2 NMAC Hearing

Mr. Michael D. Smith

Environmental Health Department

Post Office Box 1293

Albuquerque, NM 87103

Ifyou have any questions, please contact Mike du Mond at 505/845-7914.

By my signature, I certify that the author and technical reviewers ofdocuments

are qualified, and that the proCCllll defined in AOP95.45, "Preparation, Review,

and Approval ofPermit ApplicationslAmendmentsIModitication Requests and

Other Regulatory Deliverables" hall been fullowed. I undenland that Sandia

policy is to provide true, accurate, and complcte information to IIlI government

regulators. To the best ofmy knowledge and belief, based upon the process

fuUowed,1IIId my inquiry ofthe person(s) responsible for owrseeing the

implementation ofthat process, the docwnent meets that policy.

Sincerely,

~:;--

L. A. West, Director

Sandia National Labo.ratories
Attn: 20,11.2 NMAC Hearing

Mr. Michael D. Smith

Environmental Health Department

P.O. Box 1293

Albuquerque. NM 87103

General Mills

Operations

3501 Pa.eo del No,te NE

Albuque,que, New Mexico 87113

Re: Written Statement to be incorporated into Public Record of Albuquerque/Bernalillo County

Air Quality Control Board Public Hearing on 20.11.2 Permit Fees

February 6, 2001

Dear Mr. Smith:

General Mills Operations, Inc. owns and operates a packaged foods plant at 3501 Paseo del Norte

NE, Albuquerque, NM 87113. I am the Plant Manager and represent General Mills in matters

pertaining to the operation of this facility. On January 25, 2001 we received from the City of

Albuquerque a Notice of Hearings and Meeting to address a proposal to repeal and replace

20.11.2 NMAC Permit Fees. We wish to place in the public record the following concerns and

comments pertaining to the proposed fee modification:

I) The proposed modification would change the annual fee calculation from actual air

emissions to potential-to-emit. General Mills presently pays air emission fees based on

actual emissions. Our actual emissions are approximately halfthe total emissions

allowed under our permit. The current method offee calculation is more logical because:

a. It accurately reflects our use ofthe resource.

b, There is a built in incentive to control and reduce emissions.

2) We are concerned that the proposed system offees creates a disincentive to minimize air

emissions because:

a. The fee is based on potential worst-case activities, and effectively disallows

pollution prevention activities from quickly recovering cost savings associated

with emission fee reduction.

b. Emission fees can only be reduced by modification of an existing permit. In

some cases this fee is $5000, potentially more than the fee for a new source and

also potentially more than the reduced emissions fees associated with a pollution

prevention activity.

3) If a modification to the fee calculation is deemed necessary, we are concerned about the

use of the term "potential-to-emit"(PTE). This term is used in several federal and state

regulations and definitions vary with .each regulation. We feel that the use ofthe term

"potential-to-emit" could cause confusion. We are concerned that it could be interpreted

differently and fee assessments could become inconsistent with the intent ofthe annual

emission fee revision. We would propose that a more precise term to use in this instance

is Hpennitted emissions~' or upennitted emission limits".

• ~~~~~.Ii!III~Ii!IIB_1 Staff Exhibit #6 - Letter From Mr. Jim

Goins, General Mills
4) We are concenled that an adequate period for public comment may not take place

because ofthe short time period between receiving the notice and the due date for written

statements.

Thank you for the opportunity to comment on this proposal and thank you in advance for

addressing our concerns relating to this proposal. Please feel free to contact me if you have any

questions or if we can further clarify our concerns for the record.

Sincerely

:;t- ,\' V"'.•. Jim Goins

Plant Manager

General Mills Operations. Inc.

350 I Paseo del Norte NE

Albuquerque, NM 87113
Public Service Company

of New Mexico

Alvarado Square

Albuquerque, NM 87158

February 5, 2001

CERTIFED MAIL

RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED

Attn: 20.11.2 NMAC Hearing

Mr. Michael Smith

Environmental Health Department

P.O. Box 1293

Albuquerque, NM 87103

Subject: Public Service Company of New Mexico's Ccmments on Repealing and

Replacing 20.11.2 NMAC, Pennit Fees

Dear Mr. Smith:

The Public Service Company of New Mexico (PNM) is submitting these

comments on the proposed changes to 20.11.2 NMAC, Pennit Fees to be

incorporated into the public record.

PNM has numerous air emission sources located in Bernalillo County that have

air permits issued by the Albuquerque Environmental Health Department and the

Albuquerque/Bernalillo County Air Quality Board, One of these sources, Reeves

Generating Station, is a major source and has applied for and received an

operating pennit.

The proposed changes to 20.11.2 NMAC, Permit Fees will eliminate the current

provisions that allow major and non-major sources to pay annual fees based on

the source's actual emissions during the previous year. This change will result in

the annual permit fee for Reeves Generating Station to increase from $11,292 to

$152, 923. PNM realizes that this fee increase can be reduced by applying for a

permit modification to reduce the station's potential to emit. Due to overriding

business concerns, PNM does not believe this approach to reduce the station's

potential to emit is in our or our customer's best interests. Therefore, PNM does

not object to the increase in the annual fee.

PNM does request that the change in the regulation that removes the current

provision to pay annual fees based on a source's actual emissions not become

effective until 2002. PNM has completed the 2001 budget several months ago,

and this large increase in the Reeves Generating Station annual fee was not

included in the 2001 budget. Since the annual fee paid in 2001 is for 2000

emissions and it is too late to change budgets or emissions, PNM believes it is

only fair to delay the effective date of this change until 2002.

- - .-~IIIII~··II!IIIII~~_1 Slaff Ex.hibil #7 - Letter From Ms. Nancy

Norem,PNM
PNM would also like to request that the Air Quality Division prepare and provide

to the sources paying permitting fees an annual reconciliation of the permit fees

collected and how the fees were used.

Finally, PNM hopes that the increased fees will enable the Air Quality Division to

improve their services to the regulated community.

Sincerely,

IJOJncqq. n~

Nancy J. Norem

Principal Engineer
..,......c&===.."..

RIO GRANDE PORTLAND CEMENT 505 758 1977

February 6, 2001

No.845 P002/002

Altn: 20.11.2 NMAC Hearing

Mr. Mike Smith

Albuquerque Environmental Health Dept.

P.O. Bo" 1293

Albuquerque, NM 87103

Dear Mr. Smith,

SeD' By F.csiDIiJe

OrigiD.1 Seat By U.S. Mail

This letter is being submitted by Rio Grande Portland Cement (RGPe) as written notice of intent to

provide oral testimony as an interested party at the February 14, 2001 public hearing before the

Albuquerque I Bernalillo County Air Quality Control Board. This hearing is being held to hear

testimony regarding the proposed repeal and replacement of 20.11.2 NMAC, Permit Fees.

My testimony will include a very brief description of the air quality permitting process, how

emission fees arc assessed, equitability in fee assessment, and how collected emissions fees support

the administration ofthe local air quality regulatory prognuns in Albuquerque and Bcmalillo COWlty.

The mailing address for RGPC is as follows:

Rio Grande Portland Cement

P.O. Box 100

Tijeras, NM 87059

[fyou have questions regarding this information, please feel free: to contact me at (505) 286-6026.

S~f) ~~ Corporate

Brian D. McGill

Environmental Manager

W

Rio Grande Portland Cement

cc: Mr. Gary Romontio, Tijeras Plant Manager

lijer. Planl

P.O. 80, 100

Ti18l'aa. NY 810S8-0100

._~~~-~~_. Staff E"hibit #8 - Letter From Mr. Brian

- McGill, Rio Grande Portland Cement

A.......,yot

....
January 29, 2001

Mr. Michael D. Smith

Environmental Health Department

City ofAlbuquerque

PO Box 1293

Albuquerque, NM 87103

Re: A1buquerqueIBernalillo County Air Quality Control Board Proposed Permit Fees

Dear Mr. Smith:

Thank you for the opportunity to comment on the proposed permit fees as outlined in your recent

Notice ofHearings for the Air Quality Board.

It appears the department is proposing an inspection and filing fee to obtain a surface disturbance

permit at $100 per disturbed acre. As a land developer who develops lots for area homebuilders, we

are usually responsible for the clearing and grubbing, mass grading and finish grading ofthe lots prior

to the start ofhome construction. The fee of$loo per disturbed acre seems excessive, given the actual

time involved from city stafffor reviewing and implementing the required permits.

For example, a master planned project such as Ventana Ranch, which encompasses approximately 900

acres ofland, would generate $90,000 in inspection and filing fees for the City for the surface

disturbance permit. The City currently charges an average of $30,000 in fees for each subdivision

phase through the City's One-Stop Subdivision Improvement Agreement process; this should be taken

into consideration.

Ifa fee is proven to be truly needed, it should be graduated over time. Given the larger earthwork

operations, perhaps the larger master planned communities could have a "sliding scale" based on size,

or even a flatfee may be more appropriate.

We ask that our concerns regarding this proposed surface disturbance permit fee be considered given

the fee structure currently in place for new subdivisions.

Thank you for this opportunity to comment on these proposed fees.

Sincerely,

- .II!!I~I!II.I"~IIIII!!I"._ Staff Exhibit #9 - Letter From Mr. Kurt

••

Browning, Sandia Properties Ltd.

,

Kurt Browning

Land Development

Sandia Properties Lt

cc:

.,0 TRAMWAY LOOP NE • ALBUQUERQUE. NEW MEXICO 87122 • (505) 856·6419 • FAX (505) 856-6335

LltND DfVEl.QPMPIVT 4.1""'''''·'~¥'···-'
ALBUQUERQlJE I BERNALILLO COUNTY AIR QUALITY CONTROL BOARD

ALBUQUERQUE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT

P.O. BOX 1293

ALBUQUERQUE, NM 87103

(505) 768-2600

TITLE 20 ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION

CHAPTER 11 ALBUQUERQUE I BERNALILLO COUNTY AIR QUALITY CONTROL BOARD

PART 02 PERMIT FEES

I. GENERAL PROV[SIONS

ISSUING AGENCY: Albuquerque! Bernalillo County Air Quality Control Board. P.O. Box

1293, Albuquerque, NM 87103. Telephone: (505) 768-2600. [7-9-75... 12-1-95J

2 SCOPE: Each owner or operator required to obtain either an Authority-to-Construct Pennit

pursuant to 20 NMAC [ IAI, or an Operating Pennit pursuant to 20 NMAC 11.42 may be

subject to the requirements of Permitting Nonattainment Areas, 20 NMAC 11.60; Prevention

of Significant Deterioration, 20 NMAC 11.61; Acid Rain, 20 NMAC 11.62; New Source

Performance Standards. 20 NMAC 11.63; and Emission Standards for Hazardous Air

Pollutants, 20 NMAC 11.64 in addition to the requirements of this Palt. [12-16-9-1... 12-1-95;

5-12-97]

2.1 EXEMPT: This Part does not apply to sources within Bernalillo County which are

located on Indian lands over which the AlbuquerquelBernalillo County Air Quality

Control Board lacks jurisdiction. [12-1-95]

3 STATUTORY AUTHORITY: This Part is adopted pursuant to the authority provided in the

New Mexico Air Quality Control Act, NMSA [978 §§ 74-2-4, 74-2-5.C; the Joint Air Quality

Control Board Ordinance, Bernalillo County Ordinance 94-5 § 4; and the Joint Air Quality

Control Board Ordinance, Revised Ordinances of Albuquerque 1994 § 9-5-1-4. [7-9-75... 12-

[-95]

4 DURATION: Pennanent. [12-[-95]

5 EFFECTIVE DATE: December 1,1995. [12-1-95]

6 OBJECTIVE: The objective of this Part is to offset the costs of review, analysis. issuance or

denial, compliance monitoring, and enforcement of Source Registration, Authority-toConstruct Permits and Operating Permits required by regulation and adopted pursuant to the

Air Quality Control Act, Chapter 74, Article 2 NMSA 1978. [8-19-83... 12-1-95,5-12-97]

7 DEFINITIONS: In addition to the definitions in this Section 1.7, the definitions in 20

NMAC 11.01 apply unless there is a conflict between definitions, in which case the definition

-

20 NMAC 11.02

.---11111111!!-"'~_. Staff Exhibit #10 - Current Version of

- 20.11.2 NMAC, Permit Fees
in this Part shall govern. [12-1-95]

7.1 ALLOWABLE EMISSION RATE: means the maximum emission allowed by the

most stringent emission limitation applicable to the source contained in: [11-16-94. 5-

11-97]

A. Any Board Regulation; [12-16-94 J

B. Any federal standard of performance. emission limitation, or emission standard adopted

pursuant to 42 U.s.C. Section 7411 or 7411; or [12-16-94]

C. Any condition within a construction or operating permit issued by the department. [12-

16-94]

7.2 ANNUAL EMISSIONS INVENTORY: for the purposes of this Part, an annual

emissions inventory means a report which presents data, calculations and supporting

technical information that provides the Department with documentation of emission rates

based on the source's preceding calendar year actual process rales, actual production

rates, Or actual equipment rate of operation. The emissions shall be calculated or

specified based on one or more of the following methods as approved by the Department:

A. any EPA or Department approved monit01ing or testing methods as approved by the

Department, including but not limited to those in 40 CFR parts 51, 60, 61, 63, and 75;

and/or; [5-12-97]

B. recognized EPA emission factor calculations (e.g., AP-42) as approved by the

Department and/or; [5-12-97]

C. presumptively credible evidence as defined in 20 NMAC 11.41.I1.15.2.B. [5-12-97]

Emissions mcasurcmcuis based 011 Ihe EPA or Dcp.1.r1mclIl approved mOllitorin~ or testing mClhods \\;11

wwcnJ IIIOSC based on presumptively nediblc c\;(leucc if (hc~' are nol in agreement. 112-16-9·£; R .5-12~97; .j~

12-971

7.3 EMISSIONS UNIT: meaus <u1)' pfln or <lcti';ll of a statiouary source that emits or has the potcnliallo emil au)'

Icc pollulmll or !Jal."lf{lous air pollUL;ull. 112-J(}"9·1~ R .'}-12-97; 20 NMAC 11.02.1.7.2.5+12-971

7A EXISTING STATIONARY SOURCE: means a stationary source which commenced operation 011 or bcli)rc

Decemher 31. 1993. 112·16-9,1; R (,-1-97; 211 NM;\C 11.02,1.7.:J. 5-1-971

A. He,en'ed. 112·16.9,1; R 5·12.971

B. Resen·eel. 112·16-9,1; R 5-12-971

7.5 FEE POUUTANT, means: 112-1(,.9,1; RIl, 20 NM:\C 11.02.1.7.-1,5-12-971

A. SulJiu· dioxide. nitrogeu dim::idc, carbol1 mOlloxide, lOlal suspended paniculalC: 11l.1.UCr, and YOlilLilc o~k

20 NMAC 11.02
n..\11\' air polllllallilhal is lisl{·tl as ,1 !l;ll;lll!nus illr polllllallllllltier SC('Unll 112 oflhc h'dcl~11 CLul ,\ir .\n

(C\.\) (~n CV[{ Part iii ;l.ud fi;ll. 112·l(i-!H: Ru. ~o :\M.\C tI.02.1.7.·1,ILi·I~-~)i,,1l1Vlli[

7Jj FORM I: The I<mn ;uladlcrl to all opel~tlill~ pelmitl\"hi('h is llllli~cd 10 inlonu lhc Dcpin1mClll of;lIlY

:lppron:lj or pre-aIJPro\·Cllllllldili.·;l.lioIlS. lIe\,. sourccs. 1I0lilic:llion or pollutiou prC\'Clllioll projel"1s. IICII"

apl'lll';lhlc reCluirel1lelllS, and am' utileI' rharu,'cs at thc SOlllrc as ;'I!>pro"cd (I"rSll;lllt 10 the UI)CI~lli\ll;: perllllL.

l,i·1 'l-~)/I

7.7 Fl ICITIVE I::MISSIONS: mealls those cmissions \\'hidll'Ould llol reasullably pass Ihrollllh a "lad;,. dlinlllcy.

"clli. IJr llther IlllKliollallr-e1ll1i\'alcHI opClIInl(, 1!2-1l;'!) k H :j-12·~)7; [(II, 20 ;\~L\C II.O'l.I.i ..1, .·i-I~-~J71

7,R N E,W STATIONARY SOURCE: mcans a Slillioll;lry sourcc \\'hidl l'omlllellced operalioll slIhscqueul 10

l)cn:llIber :ll, EI~J;~. 112-11i-~ll; H .;-12-97: RH. 20 N;..I.\C 11.02,1.7,6,5-12-971

7.9 Hcpealcd. 112- [(;..~) ~; H .>-12-!J71

7.10 STANlJllY I::QPIPMENT: mcans all cmissiolls IIllil I\·hldl is uscd ;'It a slation,lr)' soun-c O}n a ICIIlIKII~II)'

basis. Lo rcp~Kc equiplIlclIl (althc samc st;l1ion;uy' source) IISCei in Ilormal operation and ",llIdl has ;11\

,11lo\\'able cnussioll .-nlc or 1'()1{'llli"I-lo-clI1il (lyrE) Ii,.. cal'll ICc pollulalll which is equal 10 or Il'SS Ihan lite

equiplllclli rcpl;Kcd. (J 2.1l>-!H, ,;.I 2-!}7i

7.11 Hcpe;llcd. II 2-\l>·!).l: H 5-12-!)7]

R VARIANCES: Rcscm.·d

!) S/\VINGS ClAUSE: ,\lIy amcndlllcul [0 Part 02 \\'hi('h is tiled wilh Ihc Slatc Renll1ls Ccnlcr shallnol allen

aClions 1K:lldilll.\" for \lolal1lJll ofa ledeml or sialc stalUlc. a l'lly or COUllLy ordinancc. Board HC!\lII;uioll 21. or 1';'111

O:.!. I'roscClIliolllilr a "io!;llion ulldcr prior rq.,'1lI;llioll \\'ortlilll.\" sllall hc J!"U\'clllcll aud proscculed nuder the SI;ll1I1C,

onlillanl'c. I'art or rC~lIhlliou scctioll ill dICer ;11 lile tllTiC lite Ilolmioll \\~lS eOllUlliUcd. II 2- J(;'~) 1.:)-1 ~-~Jil

10 SEVERABILffY: If any se('lioll, pal~ll!1~lph, scnlcll('c, dause, or \\'lJr(1 of Ihis Part is JiJr allY rca.~()llllclJ 10 bc

1lIl('OIiSlinuioll.ll 01" otllerwisc iu\'alid br allr COLIn, I hc (k.'{'isioll sltallnol alli:{'lllIe \~Ihdily of relllaillil\~ prmlsiolls

of Ihis Pall. 112·itj-!H... 12·1-!I;)]

I J DOCUMENTS: J)ol'umcllts incollJOmlccl ,mel {'iled inlhis ('0111 1II.'1y be \iell'cd al lhc :\lllUcllICrtllie

EIl\irollll1elllal Hc;uth Dcpattmclll, Onc Ci\lc PI;v...1. N\V, 3rd Floor, Room a023, Albuqucn\ue, Y\187102.

II ~-1-9,'jl

1'1 AMENlJMENT AND SUPERSESSION OF PRIOR REGULA.ll0NS: 'nlis Patt Ilmends and supersedcs

Alhuqllerquc/Hcl1lalillo COUllly, Air Qualily Conlro! l\ollrtl Rc~l.1.lioll No. 21 - Pennil Fecs, fLied on Decembcr

IG. 1991..\11 rclCl'Clll'CS 10 Ihis rcJtUlalion shall be lI11de~too(1 ~s a rckrencc 10 lhis P;u1,1I~·1-9;)1

11. APPUCABLE REQUiREMENTS

PERMITS:

1.1 E"ery lK:rSOI1, indudill~ auy ledcl-aJ, sl"lc or ItX·a! .;m·crJullclllal agency, who lilcs ;'Ill application as requircd h~'

20 ~M;\C II. ~I lllr;'l\l inilial or a modilic;uiolJ 10 ;UI cxislill~ l\ulhnrily.lo-ConsIJU\·t Pcnni. shall p;l\' the

lec(s) rccluircd ill the loUo\\;lIg Table Onc I(.'e schcdulc. The Icc is ('alculalcd by dclcnniniIlI\' dIe sum or thc

hil:\"hesl applicilblc bilSC Icc alll! ;U1Y addilional re"i.c\\' lecs. Fur sourcc rcgislraLioll illilialli:c(s) rcJer 10 I':ut ·lO.

IR.j 9-H:L 12·16·9,t, :3·1 '1-971

1.211' all applicalion is lilcd 101':111 AUlhority-Lo-COlIsIJU{"l l'el1nil [or any statiolJ;u)' or portablc sourcc only as a

20 NMAC 11.02
11'~1111 of lI~lIl~lcr from OIlC loc;llioll 10 aJlolh~r. ;111<1 d' a ]ll.:1l1ll1 had pn:\'iollS]' beClll,'r.ulIed undcr P,II'l 11 'lIld,

~'~n'pl for localion, Ihe inl'nnllalioll !{l"CII In 20 ;-""\I.\C II. ~J ,11.1 IS slill ,'ahd. Ihe applicant shall p;'l~' a S.iO

lrilllslCr h·. 1R-19-H:LI 'l-1-9.i..i-I'l-!171

1.:1.\11 ;lpplit'aliolllX:1l11it Icc bdJ ('OllSlSlclll wilh Tahle ()ne of tIm Pari nill h~ sellt II> lhe (lI\"l1cr or opel~llllr

\\"illlllllhirlr 1:-lO) days of lhe appJwilllon hciui; deemed ("()lllpk-Ie h\' Ihe Ikpal1menl, .\lief all 0\1111.'1' or

Clllt.'ralor r~'('ci\'cs;) bill 01- illHlj("e fromllll' Cily. Ihe O\\llCr or lllX:I;llor shall par the (;':1.' wilhin IhillY (;~()) da\'s

ched, or 1II0llCY orck'r made pa,ahk. In Ihe ;\Ihuqllerque Ell\irollm~'IlI..1Heallh l)"p;II·llI1elll. and ddin'n.:d

10 Ihe Cil~'Trca.~ur)'. IH-19.H:LI2·1-~).3, .i-11·~J7]

1.I,\ny !l:~'s required hereju shall 1101 he 1'I.:II.lllded. [H-I!)·H31

I ..; 'I'he Ikpartlllcni nlay prm'ide .111 illl'llllial pn:-aPIJ!i('alioll ('OllSlI!lillioll for ;lIl~' [>eI'SOIl l,.islllll~ 10 dClelll1iJl~' if

lhe source is sul~ie('1 10 P;Ul ,H, There is 110 ICc lin lhis sen icc. [f. 110\l'c\'I.'r. Ihe pel"son rcqllc'sts a Wl"illell

~lppllf;lhilil~ (Jclermiu;llion fnllllllie DepOllllllelll slatillj{ IIMI thc mlIlH' is 1I0( sllbic('l10 Pall ·~I, Ihe app!ic;uII

11'111 he asscsscd a Icc Or.~i)() per hour of slalrllllle e~'lX:lldcd in prcp;ll'in~ IiiI.' ddcrIllillalioll. !8·19-H:L.12·1·

9.)•.)-1 '2-!)71

2 A:'\fNlJAL EMISSIONS FEES FOR MJ\JOR At'lD NON-MAJOR SOURCf.'l; 11'2-111-91. .';.. J2·971

2, J b'cn' em'ner or 0lx:ralor or a SOlll1'C II'ltidl is rCCJuired ((l nl)l;,iu a SI)III'fe "C~~I "lIioll pUTmanl to Pan 10. all

0Jl~'I~lIillg !X:llnil pm'manllo P.ln~'2. all ,\ulhoritr·to-ConSIll.JI'! ]x:rlllil pursu;Jll( (0 P;.rl H. or a

I'n:nlllslnlliion pcnni! pUrSU;J11l 10 Pan 1,0. Ii I, or !i2 shall par ;111 ;l1l1luaJ ellllSSlons ICc lIudcr lhis sc('tiull ill

,\(ldlUOIi 10 any ;Jllplie;Jlioll Icc willcit is rL'l]uired h~... Pal1 02, 1['2-16·!) ..3-12-971

'L'2 '[,hc ICI: shaU Ix: as,~sscd: II '2-J/;.!} ~I

.\, lilr a SI;llillll;UJ source ;l~ defincli ill 20 NMAC Chapter II Pari 10. il. ~'2. (iO. 6!. or 62, lell" all emissions

IInils; or II 2·1 I'-!H...I2-1-9:3; .3·12-1

)7J

B, For all olher sl;.lio!lal)' sourccs.lilr cmissions IIl1ilS ,,'hidr ('aUse Ihe sourcc to be sul~i~'ct 10 Pall l'2. [I '2·1 (i..

'11 ... 12-1-9·jl

2,:-l'IlIL' al1llllaJ ICc shall be ('akulatcd ill coul;,lI1m\ll('C wilh (l'2.l1.2A oflhis ParI. 1J'2-1(j-(H... 11-1-9.'i; :;-1'2-971

1. ~"\.tIJlllal F~'C C.kulillioll. 1I2.J(;"!H, ,~-12-971

.\. "Illc <lllllUallce shall he caleulated hy talill~ thl' product ofthc allol\'ilbJc cmissiolll....le !(1I" each lee poUUI;U1t

e\[lressed ill 10115 PCf ,car and lhc appropriale fec pcI' tOil of pollulant listed ill 02.11.2.6. Ifau allol\'ahlc

cmission mtc docs not C~iSl. the lec shall he (',1lcuJatcd usillJr the (171'1-:). 112·16·91...12·1·95; 5-12-971

It The allowable emission ralc or thc I'TE which Sh.lll he used ill the fcc cOlkulatioll is:

I. I()r sourccs whid\ do not posses all Opc"Uillg or cOllSlruclion pennit, or arc nol protel'lcd br lhe

ImJ\'i~i()lIs pUrsUilIII 10 Part c~2. SCl'lioul.'l.1.A.211lc IT[E I\'hich exists on Dcccmher ai, 1993; or

'2. lilr a 111.'\\' slationary s()un'C or a IJclluiued C:-oisllllg source. the ;tlloll'able emissjolll'iltc as specificd ill [he

most rCCCllt ami applicable Aulhority-Io-Cunstruct or 0l'el'alillK permit issued pursuant to Part ,~I, 60, 61

;111(1/01' Part ·i2 rcspel'li\·cJ,.

112-J(j.!i,i, 5-12.971

c. .. \lIm\,.!>le emission rales or (Tn: shOlIl hc calculated 10 lhe tenth or a tOil 101' each emissioll unil and thcll

IOIilIctJ 10 delcnllule Ihe tons pCI' rear /<)1' lhe (acjlit}" Tolall;u'iliW TPY qU3utities shall be detennined by

roulldillg up amounts cquallo or greatcr Ihall li"e tcnlhs or a 1011 and rounding dowil amounls lo\\'er than

20 NMAC 11.02
D, blli"~~i{)IIS li"olll ,I\I)sC ()pl'ralloll~ d(,te..'nnilled 10 I.e insil.\"llIlil'ant :lCli\"iti(:s In" the Ikparunc.:llt pursU:lIIl (0 :20

:'\~I.\C II. L? sh<lJl nol he illdutled III th(.' a1lllll,11 IC(.' ('akulatiull for all "Olln'l'S ..uhjen (() Ihis set·tioll.

illdUlilll~'20~~V\C II. Pal1s ~I,(;O,aIlt161 sources. 112-16·9L.i·I~-!JiI

E. FW,'ltin: emissiolls \\"hich h;l\"e :111 <llhm~lhlc emission rale ~hall he Illdutll-d III the Icc e:llt·ul;,tioll. II '1-1 h~~J t/

F. ,\11:" ,"",,1 e,m',"OIl' 1II\·ell'''''' III"Y he ,uhllulled 1<". rel;e,,", 1>\ Ihe /)"1 ""l11ell' ".r ,h,' pll'1",e "I' '"11I",,1

lI:e adlllslllIellls. This sh:1I1 he !".-sUiek'lI In sOlll"ceS with eSlahlishc,:d Ix'nllll allow:lllll.' c,.'mission rates or

somn.'s wlndl !I:IW SUhllUlh:t1 a timeh' pl'nnit .1pplk:rlioll pursuant It> Part rl Se.:dioll 1.2.2.:\.2, Th~

l:lllissiollS iUl"t.:l\tOlics slmll he suhllllllc..·tllo tile Dqml1mcIlI hy 110 laIN tlt;Ul JUlie I, 19~)7 alitI h~' ,\pril

t:adl ye:lI"lhereahcr for 1"C\iel\' nmsi(kratioll I(u' CH.'ry year all :Khustl1lelltl.S 'itlll!;ht. \\'ithillthiI1~' (:10) da~'s

ol"recell'lthc l)e.:parlilielitwill hill tliC ~ource Illr Ihe renc\\" pmsuaI1lttl'l'all!t.' ()III.." Ol"tllis Part. .\IIY

adjustmellis 10 Ihe soun-c's IlCllHiued or olhemisc e~t:lhlishl."d cmissioll lix's shall he incorporaled :md

adjusted and hilled in ac,'nml;ulf"e wilh Ihe hillill~ S4.:he.:dulc prmisiolls or this Pa11. 112~ 1G-9 ~: H :,·12·97; ".

1i-~)i. ,")-:lO-97(

(;. All)" Cl\lalltilY or;t pollulanl which is asscssed a ICc bccausc it is., h,v~\I1lous air pollut:1I11 shalluClI hc

a~scssell :lllclitilJII:ll Ices as .. 1·lilc..'I;a'[)Ill!ul;uU, 112-1 t.i~~) t ;;"12·971

..i SOIJRC[ SHUTDOWN:

.\, 'I'he aIII 111;11 ICc shall 1101 Ix: rClluced due !o la.'k {)roJ,er:ltiOiI of any emiSSlllllS III lit, c:'\ccpt when:

J. the (lI.snllllillllc..'d OI)c..'I~ltioll is ;UToulltt'rlll:)J" in an allCJ\mhlc emissioll r:lte ("ollt:lilletl \\;thiil:lIl .. \lIllhlrit~.

10-('0Ilsll1l("1 or OllCl~llilll.\' Permit issued h~'lhe Dep.:1I1menl;

2. all AuthoritY4Io-('omlnwl or ()per:\till.s,:: Permit issucd hy Ihe.: D(:paI1Il1clll has hce.:11 disnmtillllcd "r

terlllillatc..'t1 :md tile source ceilscli opcr.llion; ;111<1

:t wilh respect to e{JlIipmenl 1(,.. whid, (he potclltialttJ emit is used :IS thl' basis IIJI" Icc caklllatioll, the

eqUIpment has hecn rcmo\"c..'d li'ol1llhe sialionary source ;llltithc OWllc..' .. or 01)c..·I~lIor prmidecl millcn

llotilinltiolllO the Dep.'11I11Clll plioI' (0 Decemller 31 oflhc ~'e:lr itl\"as rClllm·cd.

II ~-Ifi-!HI

2.ti ANNUAL FEE: II~-Ifi-!)·l, 5-1~-97J

A. Tile ICc for each Icc pollulanl sllall be ,'\31.00 pcI' lOll 011 an <Ulima} basis. exccpt as providcd for in Sectioll

()~.Il.~.fi.ll, ~.7, 2.8, or ~.9()f Part ()~,II. Ii ~·16-9 L.I ~-1·9.i: ,;'I~·97J

B, 'l'lle Icc Ii,.- e:l("ll hro'..anlous air (JoUut:UII, lor whic'h tllc sourre i~ major as IleliJlc..'(1 ill sel'IIOiI 112 of IIIC

Ii:deral ;\("1. shall he $2,)().OO per 1011 011 an annual basis, H:lJ'.ardou~ air pollutants, 1(11' which a source i:i

IUnjor. ",hic"1t <Ire also''oe or particul;IICS shall be suhject olll}' 10 Ices as ;1 h;v;l.nloHS ;lir pollut;mt. 112-16-

91-...12,1-9,); .)-12·971

~.7 ANNUAL FEE FOR SOURCES SUBJEC'T TO GENERAL PERMITS AND SOURCE

REGISTRATIONS:

.\. Thc Ol\"ller allcVor operator of a ~()un'e rcquircd 10 obtain a ~ncral opcrntill~ Jlenuit plll'"Suaullo 20 .:"I)IA('

II. l2.II,I. sllall pa)' lhe Jl.'C est:lblisIICI! ill tile applicable Pan, wlless 01 c1illCl"Cllt Icc is l"Cquirccl b~' Sectioll

II-2.M: 01' 2.9 of l'al1 02. 15-12-!l71

20 NMAC 11.02
B. Tilc owncr illltl!or 01l'l'I";llor ofa SOlll"CC !"equired to obl,lill a sourcc ITL,>lSlralioll pursuant (0 20 :'\:\I.\C

II. W shall pay all ;ulllu;1i n~l1c\r;11 rCL,-lslralioll Icc 01':$ LOll.on. 1.')-1 ~-971

~.K ANNUAL FEE FOil SOl illO~, SliBJECr TO MACT REQUIREMENTS:

.\. 'I'he t)Wllcr ;uld/or llllcralor elf a SI)lIl"I'C sulJ.ject 10 a lIlil.'\illlllln adlinaille {,(lIlln)lledlllolm;~... (\1.\Cn

sl;1IIIIan I I(lr !I;ll'.imloliS ilir pollUI.UlIs prolllllli¥lIetl hr the Icdcr;)1 EP. \:u W CFH Pari ti:l sh;llll'ay the

r(lll(l\\·ill~ Ices:

I. if lhe sOllrrc is 1101 l'/msidcrl·t1 a major sourcc purSUtlntlo st'ction II or lht'!c(leral Act or Ihe

applicahle \'f.\Crstalld;ml. all alJllu;:allCc 01" SI00.

l·j-I~-,)71

~.!I ANNUAL FEE FOR RETAIL G..\SOllNE DISTRIBuTION STAnONS:

.\. The ulmer autl/or opcralor 0(";1 rt'lail_~I:'iolille dislributlon slalioll :-hall pay the l'(ll1owing Ices:

I. if the ;lc(u"L elllisSlOliS 01" Hll;ltile ollf,lJIic mmpouuds (\'()C) from tile l;)('ility equal or c.'\cced ."i0 lOllS

I~r rear. ('cl!cn(;l!cd as;l rollill.lt a\'el";u'l'C hased Oil throll~hplll all(1 t"oll.slderill.1.l" ,·apor recon:ry el)uipmellt.

all .lIl11u<lllce or $.'iOO; or

1. if the <lcllIal emissiclllS of volalile t)r.ll,~Ulil' compounds (\'()l:) Ii·om Ille facility arc less Ihan ."'if) I()II~ I~r

year ;lll(lmorc thall I lOll, calculaled as a rulliul( ;n·cl";l1,'l.' hased 011 Lhroul.l"i1pul alld (·ollSldelill1;" \";lpOr

l"eCO\'CIY equipmclIl. an allllualicc or $1.-')0.

I.j-I ~-971

~.IO CALCUU\TING EMISSION FU: PER ASBESTOS UNIT (AlJ):

:\. The emission Icc J~r :\( 1.shall be paid hy tltosc sources n'lIie-1i lIIed the applimhility IlurSUilllllo·W CFR

Pan til, Section (j1.1 J.')(a)(IHIHii).

I. All AlJ is ,Iefi,·e,l by (Ii,idill'{ Ihe 'L..bestos relllO\'cd ;11 or abm'e tile Ic\·cls SIKxilicci pursumu lO CFH

p;u{ (;1. Sectioll 61.1 ki.(:I)( lllIHii} b}' the correspolldill~lilelo!" alld unit of mcasurc in SlIlIilrc lCet. Iinc"r

1i.~c1. or cuhic fcc I.

'2. The total fcc paid 10 the Depm1111clIl le)r cadl ashestos dellloliti()11 and rcuO\,llion pn~iL,,('( 5ha.ll he Lhc

prC)()uct of lhe lotallllll1lher (ll" Al fs fel11m'ed multiplied hy $21.00.

a. 'nle DCp.1J1IHClll simll, \\it!lin tell d;IYs or rel'ei\lng thc lIotiJicatioli pUrsU;1I11 to ~o CFH, P"rt (j I, Scction

61.1 'l5. billille 50urcc Ii)!' the <lmoUJll due,

AU = Asbestos Removed

factor

Fee due =Toral AUsx$21.00

E.'\;unplc:

F;u·lc)rs ;lIld unilS of measure:

20 NMAC 11.02
160 SF (square Jeer)

260 LF (lincar Jeer)

35 CF (cllbie Jeer)

Salllple Pl'Ohkm:

.\ rnlllrat'lor propO:il'S 10 H'1II0YC :I~O SF. 2liO I.F. and 70 CF ol' .. sl){:~I(J~.

_3_10_,_SF_ 260LF 70CF T I AU + +---= ,ola s

160 SF 260 LF 35 CF

2+1+2=5 AUs

5 AUsx$ZI.OO= Fee Dill'

= $105.00

CaknlaliollS:

1·,-12-'171

2.11 1IILLIN!; AND i',\YMENT SCHEDULE: 112-\(~!J I: 11".20 :"\I.\C 11.D2.11.2.7..'-12·!J7:.iI 2-!J71

1. By July L 1997, and by each May I thereafter, the Depanment shall send a wl;lten bill

or invoice to each owner or operator which the Department determines is subject to Pan

02. Thc bill or invoice shall state:

I. the required annual fee due for the immediately following I year period from July I

to June 30; and

2. the authority for, and mcthod of calculating the required annual fee.

[12-16-94; Rn, 20 NMAC 11.02.II.2.7.A, 5-12-97; 5-12-97]

B. The required annual fee shall be paid by July I, 1997 and by each July I thereafter. [12-

16-94; Rn, 20 NMAC 11.02.II.2.7.A.2, 5-12-97; 5-12-97]

C. For stationary sources which commence operation after June 30, but prior to July I of

any year:

I. the annual fee shall be prorated based upon the number of days from the

commencement of operations to the following June 30; and

2. the required fee shall be paid by the date operations commence.

20 NMAC I 1.02
[11-16-94; Rn, 20 NMAC 11.02.11.2.7.B, 5-12-97; 5-12-97]

2.I1PAYMENT:

A. After an owner or operator receives a bill or invoice from the City, the owner or

operator shall pay the fee within thiny (30) days by certified check or money order made

payable to the Albuquerque Environment Health Department and delivered to the City

Treasury.

B. Upon receipt of the check or money order. it shall be deposited in the Air Quality pennit

fund.

C. Any person who receives un invoice from the Department for fees under this Part may request an informal

review of the basis for the invoice. nnd may pay the invoice uooer protest. The request for informal

re",'iew shall specify the areas of dispute and shall be made in writing to the Director within 30 days of

receipt of the invoice.

The Direl:tor shall condUl.:t an informal review of the invoil:e within thirty (30) days of receipt of the

request. At [he discretion of the Director. the Director may meet and confer with the requesting party

during or before the informal review. The Director shall review whether the invoice is correct based on

information a ..;ailable to the Department under this Pan. and fhe Director may re.... ise the in\"oice based on

the informal review.

Disposition of the informal review ~hall be mailed to the requester within ten working days after the

informal review. The Director's decision after the informal review shall become tinaI unless within thirty

(30) duys after receipt of the decision the requesting person requests in writing a hearing before the Board.

II 2- J(~9 k Rn. 20 NMAC t 1.02.1 I.2.K, 20 NM..\C I I.02.JI.2.K...\. 20 N:l-tAC 11.02.1I.2.K.ll, .;-12-97; 5-l2-!171

2.1:~ NONPAYMENT: Failure to pity Ihc cntire ICc hy Ihe cluc dalc spcdlied inlhis Pall is a \;o)alioll of this Part

,Il\(l m,ly 5ubjcd the owncr or operalor 10: IJ2-16-9 L.I ~-I-!l-;: Ru, 20 N:\..L\C 11.02.11.2.9. .:;-12-971

A. Ihe civil pcnaltics prm';siolls of Ihc Cit~· of .-\Jhul(lICnIUC mul Bl..'m.-,liUo CouJlty JOill1 Air Qualih' Control

Board Onlillanccs; a1\(1 1t2-It>-!H; RH. 20 Ni\lAC 1l.02.1I.2,9..-\, ;}-12-971

H. the clll()I"l.'CI11Cnl pnnisiolls orthe City of Alhuquerque mill Bernalillo County Joint Air Qualily COIltrol

Boanl Ordinances. 112-l(~9'l; Rn, 20 NMAC 11.02.1I.2.9.11, 5-12-971

20 NMAC 11.02
TABLE O"E

Applicalioll Fee Sdu..·dult:

II.ISL·: ,\I'I'Ul'.ITIO\ FEES FOil \1':\\' SOl :IlU",S ,I\IJ 110 IIII'll'.ITIO.\S

II Pall ~I • PI\'-t'lIl1lrollcd 1'1l1l.~SIt)1I ~'l-C;lh'l" rhan 1011),';_,111.: nl" prl'"nJlIII'OJlccll'mi~si()lIs

!..,'1'l"I!n 1!l;1II ~.j lom,\ r (TPY). ;llld kss th;1I1 lOll TPY.

Pari til> or P;all iI - .\ ny applit-,llioll for ;\ :\ o/lau;lilllm'lli .he,) PCflml tor Pn.'H'lllioll ()r

SI!{lulil"alll I)clnillr;\lltlll (J)Sl») 1\'1"I1Iil.

S:,llO.()O

S l..ioo.OO

,IIJIJITLO\.II.IUXII':\\' I'FE.S

:),iOI),OO

,j)

tll

,\J1r .lpplwal i011 1"l'llllirillJ!; kdcl~11 SlllllTC C;\h.'l;JITY n.:'\'il"\\' (If \SPS. :\ ES II.\ lIS (It> nt'huIL-

;Isheslo,;l. (ll' Pan ()~.

,\llllll;l! ('IlIISsi(lIIS ill\\:'lllflry n.-\·il.'\'- Ii>.. IH)II-llltl.J(ll' StllH"'c L'nlIS~it"l fcc <llljIISIIIICllb.

."\.ioo.OO

~'2.;(I.OO

SIDon,OO

S.jOIJ.()11

18-19-83... 12-1-95; 5-12-97.7- L5-971

20 NMAC 11.02
-,

Proposed Amendmenls to 12/13/00 Drart With Floor Amendments

Strila!il\lt Material Deleted

Double Underline - M:Jterial Add~

Shaded Material. - Proposed Floor Amendments

TITLE 20 ENVIRONMENTAI. PROTECTION

2 CHAPTER 11 ALBUQUERQUE/BERNALILLO COUNTY AIR QUALITY CONTROL BOARD

3 PART 2 PER~IlT FEES

4

5 20.11.2.1 ISSUING AGENCY: AlbuquerquelBernalilio County Air Quality Control Board. Environmental

6 Health Department. P.O. Box 1293, Albuquerque. NM 87103. Telephone: (505) 768-2600.

7

8 20.1l.2.2 SCOPE:

9 A. Applicability:

10 {I) Any person ff!'ll::lifin@:required to obtain a permit pursWlnt to 20.11.42 NMAC. Operating

I I Permits;

12 (2) Any person Fll(jl::liriFlg required to obtain a permit pursuant to 10.11 Al NMAC. AuthorirY-lo13 Construct;

14 (3) Any person with a valid regislration or permit issued pursuant to 20.11.40 NMAC. Source

J 5 Registration. 20.11 A I NMAC, Authority·tooConstruct, or 20. J1.42 NMAC, Operating Permits;

16 (4) Any person requesting a SurfLIce Disturbance Permit pursuant to 20.11.20 NMAC. Airborne

J7 Particulate Malter~

18 (5) Any person fe~lliriAg required to provide notification regarding removing regulated asbestos

19 containing material pursuant to 20.11.64 NMAC, Emission Standards for Hazardous Air Pollutants for StationLlry

20 Sources~ and

21 (6) Any person requesting professional or administrative services.

22 B. Exempt: This Part does nol apply to sources within Bernalillo County that are localed on Indian lands

23 over which Ihe AlbuquerquelBemalilio County Air Quality Control Board lacks jurisdiction.

24 C. Variance: Any person may request a timely variance 10 Ihis Part in accordance with Variance

25 Procedures. 20.11.7 NMAC, if allowed by federal. Slate or loeallaws and regulations.

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STATUTORY AUTHORITY: This Part is adopted pursuant to the authority provided in the New

3 Mexico Air Quality Act. NMSA 1978 § 7-1--2-4, 74-2-5~ the Joint Air Quality Comrol Board Ordinance. Bernalillo

4 County Ordinance 94-5 sections 3 and 4; and the Joint Air Quality Control Board Ordinance. Revised Ordinances of

5 Albuquerque 1994 § 9-5-1-3 and § 9-5-1-4.

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DURATION: Permanent.

EFFECTIVE DATE: INSERT DATE. unless a later date is cited at the end of a section or paragr:J.ph.

OBJECTIVE:

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A. To implement the requirements of 74-2-7 NMSA by establishing:

(1) Reasonable fees to cover the cost of reviewing and acting on any permit application received

14 by the Department;

15 (2) Reasonable fees to cover the cost of implementing and enforcing the terms and conditions of

16 any permit issued by the Department; and.

17 (3) A schedule of operating permit fees consistent with section 502(b)(3) of Clean Air Act and

18 the Joint Air Quality Control Board Ordinances;

19 B. To implement the requirements of section 507 of federal Clean Air Act by establishing adequate

20 funding for a small business stationary source technical and environmental compliance assistance program: and

21 C. To establish reasonable fees to cover the adminislrative expenses incurred by the Department in

22 implementing and enforcing the provisions of the New Mexico Air Quality Conuol Act. the Joint Air Quality

23 Control Board Ordinances. and the AlbuquerquelBernalillo County Air Quality Control Board Regulations.

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DEHNITIONS, Throughuutthis Port. the terms defined shall have the following meanings.

2 ourpo~e of rhis.£lU!. Jt( then: is any apparent contlici between the meaning of a definition in this Part and a

3 definition in another Parl. the d~fjnition in this Part shall prevail and apply.

4 A. ·'.-\lIowable Emission Rate" means the most stringent ~mission limit that has been e~tablished by a

5 permit issued by the Department or the source's potential-to~emit.

6 B. "Emissions Unit'" means any part or activity of a s[a(ionary or portable source that emits or has the

7 potential [0 ~mil any fee pollut.mt.

8 C. "Fee Pollutant" means:

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[I) Sulfur dioxide (SOx);

l2) Nitrogen dioxide base:d on total oxide:s of nitrogen (NO:<.);

13) Carbon monoxide (CO);

tool-) Particulate matter with an aerodynamic diameter It:ss Ihan or equal to 30 micrometers (TSP);

(5) Any volatile organic compound as defined in 40 CFR 51. LOO(s), as amended~

(6) Any hazardous air pollutant listed pursuant to section 112(b) of the Federal Clean Air Act;

(7) Any regulated substance listed pursuant to section 112(r) of the federal Clean Air Act.

(8) Any other pollutant determined by the Board after public hearing.

18 D. "Fugitive Emissions" means those emissions that cannot reasonably pass through a stack, chimney.

19 vent. or other functionally equivalent opening.

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E. "Major Source" shall have the meaning defined in 40 CFR 71.2.

F. "Potential-To-Emit" or "PTE" means the maximum capacity of a stalionary source to emit any air

22 pollutant under its physical and. operational design. Any physical or operational limitation on the capacity ofsource

23 to emit an air pollutanl. including air pollution control equipment. restrictions on hours of operation or on type or

24 amount of malerial combusted, stored or processed. shall be treated as part of its design if integral 10 the process or

25 the limitalion is federally enforceable through permit or regulation. Any limitation on emissions due ro process

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design must be unchanging and unavuidable physical constraints. Th~ potentlill~to-emit for nitrogen oxide shall be

2 bas~d on total (lxides of nitrogen.

3 G. "Qualified Small Business" means:

4 (I) a business thal.,",s 100 or fewer employees;

5 (2) is ..sman business concern as definedby'the federal Small Business Act;

6 (3) does nolelDit more ihan SO tOns pc< year of any reguhited ai, pollutant, or75 tons per year of

7 all regulated air pollutants; and

8 (4) is not. inajor'source of hazardous air pollutants.

9 H. "Regulated Air Pollutant" means the following~

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(I) Nitrogen oxides. lotal suspended particulate matter. or any volatile organic compounds;

(2) Any pollutant for which il national state or local ambient air quality standard has been

(3) Any pollutant that is subject to any standard 19f8lHulgsfeEl YREler estpblished in Section III

L4 of the Federal Act;

15 (4) Any Class I or II substance subject to any standard f3fsmulgated YRdef er established in

16 Title VI of the fedcral Act; or

17 (5) Any pollutant subject to a standards or requirements p'.Rl8lgalool 8."" established in

18 Section 112 of the federal Act. including:

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(a) Any pollutant subject to requirements under Section 112(j) oflhe federal Ad; and

(b) Any pollutant for which the requirements ofseclion 112(g)(2) of the federal Act

21 have been met. but only with respect to the individual source subject to the requirements.

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23 fuxica;r pollutant$jt@j!iJ2i);t1~·.NMA¢.cc)iiillnJi,:tIJii1;~iiii~ SqDSeciig!l IV;l'erlhlti.I9<!t~11C:Nto!I~!@ii

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J. "Stationary Source with- De Minimis Emission.~" means a source. unless otherwise regulated. with a

2 pO~niial-to-emit:

3 (I) less than S.tons Per year of any ·regulated air polluliin~ excluding hazardous air pollutants;

4 (2) less than2 tons per year of any hazardous air pollutant;

5 (3) 5 tons or.less:of anY·cO.Dbination of hazardous air pollutaOts per year;.r

6 (4) 20 pe1Cenlof.any l..serthfeshOld .,e,. yoM fcii.ii sirigletiaziiiilous air pollutant established by

7 the Environmental Protee;ion Agency.by rule,

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9 20.11.2.8 SAVINGS CLAUSE: Any amendment to 20.11.2 NMAC that is filed with the State Records Center

10 shall not affect 3ctions pending for violation of a federal or slale statute or regulation. a City or County ordinance. or

II OlDy Board r~gul3rion. Prosecution for a violation under prior regulation wording shall be governed and prosecuted

11 under the st:.ltute. ordinllnce. part or regulation section in effecr at the rime rhe violation was commiued.

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14 20.11.2.9 SEVERABILITY: If any section. paragraph. sentence. clause or word orthis Parr or federal. srate or

15 local standard incorpor<lted herein is for any reason held to be unconstitutional or otherwise invalid by any court. the

16 decision shall not affect the validity of the remaining pro....isions of this Part.

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18 20.11.2.10 DOCUMENTS: Documents cited and incorporated in this Pan may be viewed at the Albuquerque

19 Environmental Health Department, One Civic Plaza NW, 3rd Floor, Room 3023, Albuquerque, NM 87102.

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21 20.11.2.11 GENERAL PROVISIONS:

22 A. At the lime of application. any person. including a federal. state or local go....ernmental agency. who

23 flies an application pursuant Co 20.11.41 NMAC. Authority~to-Construct. for an initial air quality review and

24 authority to proceed with construction or requesting to modify an existing air quality permit shall pay the apf'lieaele

25 permit fee f'I:IFSI:I8fU f8 required by this Part.

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B. Any new or existing stationary source !ruM meet+Rt~ the applicability requirements of this Pan shall

2 pay an annual emission fee based on the source's porential-lOwemit. Sources wishing to reduce their pOlcmial-to3 emit may do S0:.11 any time through the pro\lisions of 20.11.41 NMAC. Authorityw[o-COnsrTuct

4 C. At the time ofsubminnl. any person filing an application for a Surface Disturbance Permit with the

5 Depanment pursuant to 20.11.20 NMAC. Airborne Particulate Mauer. shall pay the applicable filing and inspection

6 fee I'lUFSI:IHRt 18 required by this Part.

7 D. AI the time of notificmioo, any person notifying the Department pursuant to 20.11.6--1- NMAC.

8 Emission Standards for Hazardous Air Pollutants for Stationary Source, of the removal of regulated asbeslos

9 comaining material shall pay the applicable fee pursuaNt lu g;guirea b.~ this Part

10 E. No applicatioo will be reviewed or permit \.?,sued ri!\ ie w may flrSE!i!eel, applil2atisR SF fli!rmit sa

11 tOOR,iielerea S8fAJ3l<!te. Nor sl:\all B: SBtlree B@ isstli!eI aA OfjeratiAg Permit unless the owner/operator provides

12 documentary proof satisfactory to the Department that either all applicable fees have been paid iN ae~erelaAet! ...ith

13 as requirsJ. QY this Part. or the owner/operator has been granred il variance in accordance with :!0.11.7 NMAC.

14 Variance Procedures.

15 F. All fees required to be paid at the time of application shall be paid by check or money order payable to

16 the ''City of Albuquerque, Permits Program (Fund 242)" and either be delivered in person to the Environmental

17 Health Department. Finance Section. 3nt floor. Room 3023, AlbuquerquelBernaliJlo County Government Center

18 (City Hall), One Civic Plaza NW, Albuquerque, NM. or mailed to Aun: Finance Section. Environmental Health

19 Department, P.O. Box 1293. Albuquerque, NM 87103. The Finance Section then shall send a receipt to the

20 applicant. The applicant shall attach a copy of the receipt issued by the Finance Section to the application as proof

21 of payment. The Air Quality Division cannot accept direct payments.

22 G. No person required to pay an annual emission fee pursuant to this Part shall be in compliance with

23 their permit unless all applicable fees are paid iR aee8relaRee \ 'itk as required by this Pan.

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H. !':~) fee required by this Part shall be refunded without the written approval of the Director. Wh~n

2" determining the' amount of the refund. the Direcror may dcdw,:t a reasonable professional service fee to cover the

3 costs of staff lime involved in processing il permit or request.

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5 20. L1.2.12 Al'THORITY-TO-CONSTRUCT PERMIT FEES, FEE CALCULATIONS AND PROCEDURES

6 A. GconerJI Permits for Minor ilnd Area Sources: Sources applying ,roi:-"a General Permit pursuant to

7 20.1 1.41 NMAC, AuthoritY-lo-Construct; shall pay lhe applicable fee fouhd in section 18 of this Part.

8 3. Ca,se+by-Case Air Quality Review Prior to the Construction of il Stationary Source:

9 (I) C3se.by~case ilir quality 'lPpliciltion review af3IJiieatisR fees shall be calculated based on lhe

10 proposed source's potential-to-emit fee PO!lUt;llJ.~ reF eafc:!~ fegl:llaletl ~8nU:taRl far e8e~ J3rerel:jl!~ emissioR IJRil.

II Federally approved SI:He (mplementation Plan Iimitalions may be used to determine a source's potential-to-emit.

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(2) Fugitive emissions shall be included in the ~1Jurce's potential-to-emit.

(J) Emissions from tHese operations determined by the Department to be insignificilnt activities

14 shall not be indud~d in the calculation.

15 (~) For each fee pollutant caJculalsi.,+Ihe potenlial-ta-emil fFam f9J each proposed emission unit

16 to the nearefil tenth of a ron skall ee 'stalee aRd 61.presSi!B ift tel'S ~er ellleR~&f ) ear as 8 "4:l81e Hymesr. Total the fee

17 pg!Jut;;mts from egch emission unit and express the value in tons per calendar vepr as a whole number. When

18 rounding. if the number ilfter the decimal point is less than 5. the whole number remains unchanged. If the number

19 after the decimal point is 5 or grenter. retlftli the whole number shall be rounded up to next whole number.

20 (5) The application review fee shnll be determined by comparing the source's calculated

2J potential-to-emit with the fee schedule found in section 18 of this Pan,

22 (6) In addition to the applkiltion review fees. il source proposing to consU'uc[ ilny emission unit

23 or units that must c.:llmply with the provisions of 20.11.60 NMAC. Pennitting in Nonauainment Areas. 20.11.61

24 NMAC. Prevention of Significant Deterioration. 20.11.62 NMAC. Acid Rain, 20.11.63 NMAC. New Source

25 Performance Standards for Stiltionary Sources. or 20.11,64 NMAC. Emission Standards for Hazardous Air

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1 Pollutants for Stationary Sources, also shall pay the applicable federal program review fees feuB<llisted in

2 section 18 ofthis Part.

3 (7) Example: A company proposes to build a facility with a NSPS boiler with a potential-to4 emit of greater than 100 tons per year ofNOx. From the fee schedule found in section 18 ofthis Part, the

5 company will be required to pay an initial air quality review fee of $5,000.00 with an addition federal

6 program review fee of $1 ,000.00 for the NSPS boiler, for a total fee of $6,000.00. The review fee shall be

7 submitted at the time of application in accordance with the procedures found in section II, paragraph E of

8 this Part.

9 (8) Sources submitting an application for the removal ofregulated ashestos containing

10 material pursuant to 20.11.64 NMAC shall comply with the provisions ofsection 14 ofthis Part.

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C. Permit Modifications:

(I) At the time of application, any source proposing to modify an existing air quality permit

13 shall pay the applicable fee found in section 18 ofthis Part.

14 (2) Any proposed modifications to an existing air quality permit that must comply with the

15 provisions of 20.11.60 NMAC, Permitting in Non-Attainmen~20.11.61 NMAC, Areas Prevention of

16 Significant Deterioration, 20.11.62 NMAC, Acid Rain, 20.11.63 NMAC, New Source Perfonnance

17 Standards for Stationary Sources, or 20.11.64 NMAC, Emission Standards for Hazardous Air Pollutants for

18 Stationary Sources, shall, in addition, pay the applicable federal review fee. but only with respect to the

19 individual emission unit subject to the requirement .

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21 20.11.2.13 ANNUAL EMISSION FEES; FEE CALCULATIONS AND PROCEDURES

22 By June I of each year, eas.d an the D",,_.Dl'S •••••dB, the Departtnent shall send each ownerloperator

23 a letter stating the fee amount owed ey the a'''''.,."ap....ta•. The ownerloperator has 45 days from

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receipt of the letter 10 contact the Department to request a correction to the records or tA reEt':..~?t II FReEJiHeatiAR [A

2 2!h!J1.il..<l~liqti0'lJQ modify an existing permit ta Fe~Y.;a rtd..Y.QnJ:. the source's allowable emission rate.

3 B. Q.y August 1 of each year, each owner/operator shall be sent an oftlcial im!oice by the City of

4 Albuquerque stating the annual emission fee due. which the owner/operator shall Be pay in aeC:l1HhtRee consj§tenr

5 with the directions stated in the invoice.

6 c. As required by 74·2-16 NMSA. all monies received pursuant [0 this section shall be deposited in the

7 AnHI~I:Ii!FElI:il!IQt!fRttlilla GeHRt)' Air Quality PeFlftit Pt:JRd CitY of Albuquerque Permits Prpgram (Fund "42)

8 D. Calculating Annual Emission Fees:

9 (I) For each source, the potential-Io-emit ~~ fee pollutanLshall be toraled and expressed in

10 tons per calendar year as a whole number. When rounding. if the number after the decimal point is less than 5. the

II whole number remains unchanged. If the number after the decimal point is 5 or greater. FetffiG. the whole number

12 shall be ro!J.!1~ up 10 next whole number.

13 (2) The s8wce's flsteRtial ta emit ium Dfeach fee pollutant shall be multiplied by the

14 appropriale annual emission fee fettAEI. in section L8 of Ihis Part then totaled 10 determine the annual emission

15 fee due.

16 (3) The source shall pay either the minimum annual emission fee or the calculated emission fee

17 whichever is greater.

18 E. Sources wishing to reduce their potential-lo-emit may apply for a permit or msdif.4eatisR their

19 existing permit consistent wjth the provisions of 20.11.41 NMAC. Authority-to-Construct.

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21 20.11.2.14 FILING AND INSPECTION FEES FOR THE REMOVAL OF REGULATED ASBESTOS

22 CONTAINING MATERIAL; FEE CALCULATIONS AND PROCEDURES

23 A. AI the time of notification. a filing and inspeclion fee shall be paid by the owner/operator removing

24 regulated asbestos containing material pursuant to 20.11.64 NMAC. Emission Standards for Hazardous Air

25 Pollutants for Stationary Sources. and the federal regulations incorporated therein.

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B The tiling and inspection fee sh;J\I be calculated by multiplying the Asbestos Unit (AU) by the

:2 applicable f~~ in s~i...tion 18 of this Part. EquaLion 1 shall be used to cakulate the lllial Asbesto~ Units (AU) and

3 amllunt due:

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5 To'al Due = I\SF / 160) + (LF /260) + (CF /35)1' AU

6 (Equation II

8 SF = Square fet:t of asbestoS" cont.:lining material to be removed;

9 LF = Linear f~t:1 of asbestos containing materi31m be removed:

10 CF = Cubic f~~l of asbestos conl:Jining materi:.1 removed;

11 AU == Asbeshls Unit.

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13 Example: A ConlT:lCtor proposes to remove 320 squl\re feet (SF), 260 linear teet (Lfo) and 70 cubic feet (CF) of

14 regulated a"besttls containing material.

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17 SF=320

18 LF=260

19 CF=70

20 AU=$21.00 (From section 18 of this Part)

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25 [(320/ 160) + (260 /260) + (70/35)] ,$21.00=

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4 Result: The contraclor must pay SlO5.00 at the time of notification.

5 C. All fees due pursuant to this section shall be pilid in accordance with the procedures found in seclion

6 II. paragraph lLctn<:l E of this Part.

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9 CALCULTIONS AND PROCEDURES

lOA. A tiling and inspection fee shall be paid by each person requesting a Surface Disturbance Permit

11 pursuant to 20.11.20 NMAC. Airborne Parriculatc Matter.

12 B. The tiling and inspection fee shall be calculated by multiplying the acreage to be disturbed. expressed

13 as a whole number. by the applicable fee found in section l8 of this Part. When rounding. if the number after the

14 decimal point is less than 5, the whole number reTTUlins unchanged. If the number after the decimal point is 5 or

15 greater, the whole number shall be rounded up to the next whole number.

l6 C. All fees due pursuant to this section shall be paid in accordance with the procedures found in section

17 II, paragraph C and E of this Part.

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19 20.11.2.16 FEE ERRORS. CORRECfIONS AND REFUNDS

20 A. Within 30 days of receiving any invoice from ~be City eF--bi#, any person who does not agree with the

21 amount due may request a review by the Director to correct any errors or challenge the basis upon which the fee was

22 computed. If the Director has oot received a request or challenge within 30 days after the

23 receives a--9f.I.t..aF 1b; invoice. the 9HI-eF invoice shall be final.

24 B. !'eo lLfees due at the time of application. the payee IllWIt must pay the required fee. then request a

2S review within 30 days of paymenL

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D The request for rc,,'iew must indude:

(I) The name of Ihe owner/operator. ::address and telephone number;

(2) The dollar ;UllCmnt of the alleged error; and

en A descriplion of the alleged error and nny other intormation the PJU'.Q! believes may

8 support Ihe dJim.

9 E. \Vithin 30 days of receiving the request for review, the Director shall ::audit the accounL and. either:

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(1) Amend the invoice or bill and refund any money due the ~; or

(,2) State the invoiL'e or bill is correct

F. The Direcro[ may confer with the J*Ij'ee.ww; to obtain additionnl information during the audit period.

13 G. Wilhin 10 working: days of the Director's decision concerning the review, the decision shall be sent by

14 certified mail 10 address provided by the p&yee~.

15 H. If a refund is due. the Department shall refund any money due consistent with the policies and

16 procedures of the City of Albuquerque.

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I. The Director's decision may be appealed to the Bonrd.

19 20.11.2.17 FAILURE TO PAY

20 A. It shall be:' a violation of this Part to fail to pay a W fee hy tJ:le elaE! sl'eei'Hed iR a bill Sf iR' eiee

21 required by this Pilrt. Director's decision. or as r8E1yirea l:1y Board regulation.

22 B. Stating au 9f.U-.eF invoice is in error shall not be a defense to this section.

23 c. In .ddition to IIle .ell••,ie. I1iWIIlI sip.S! due fees ".d ".y p,.alli•• allew,d ~y taw, th, g.paR"".1

24 Ma.y eelleet all Fe8SBolll:lll!llltt8fRey fees aRa selleetisA Gas's. the payor shall pay a penalty 0[59 percept of the fee

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4 federal Clean Air Act, section502(h)lJ)(C.J(iiJ.]

5 20.11.2.18 FEE SCHEDULE

6 A. Annual Emission Fees: S(lUrCeS issued a registration or pennit pursuant to 20.l1AO NMAC. Source

7 Regislration. 20.1 LA I NMAC. Authority-To·Construcl. or 10.11.42 NMAC, Operating Permits. shall pay a

8 minimum annual emission fce of $ L50.00 or the annual emission fee calculated consistent with section 13 of [his

9 Part. whkh ever is g.reater. The following fee pollutant rates s.b.ll1Lbe used in cqlculating the annUAl emissipn

10 ~,. unless otherwise listed:

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(I) Non-Hazardous Fee Pollutants: $31.00 per ton;

(2) Hazardous Fee Pollutams (Non-Major Soun..'es): $31.00 per ton;

(3) Hazordous Fcc Pollulants (Major Sources): $250.00 per Ion.

(4) AnnuafEuilssio~Fees for Specitli",Souree C8tegorleS:

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16 (iP<Onegptay'B&,l!i:)!"ii <;••

17 (~jet~or c~..e sp,;;y;t>\iC:i~;)I~,ij()

18 (bf!qiijiinJuiil.~eCiroplalins""VS1~;0ii

19 (cy'}p.;~ii Usiiig qriaiii~:~~Weiillii

20 (i))Non-liaiogen.tOdSQIve;,tS::.iJS\~iJ .....:tI)li~·1)OOgallon" o{.hj on.; Solvent21 cOritaining.material; arid 5,400 gallonS of any coinblnaiiono~",!.eitl,:wittiiilllngmi~OJ~~$lSj).dij

22 (iij';;j'laIQgenate!l",lveri~'~mi.l~:t6~·M!iOjiBllQriS:9;''"nyolie So.lveni.q;ntaining

23 """terial, arid 2,900gallonS'0f'a"iiYIi:iimbma~on of""iYCD!fiiQ!l~i;I~ii;~s:$15().0Q

24 (ii~pjjJW'.?:"']l:l"<ir,.:Mii9J1"iID.\ijgj

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Proposed 20.11.2 NMAC (Final Draft wi.h Aoor Amendments)

2112/01

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Proposed Amendments to 12113100 Drart With Floor Amendments

SIFiliem:ll Malerial Deleted

D!l\illie Underline Material Added

Shaded Material - Propnsed Floor A.mendments

co Gasoline Service and Fleet Stalions: $250 or $31.00 per lOn, which ever is greater;

(g) Natural gas or distillate fueled tired boilers less than 10 million BTU used

3 ellclusively for residential. commercial or institutional heating and hot,water: No Charge

(h) Printing, Publishing and Packaging Operations:

5 (i) . Sheetfed (nonheatset) offset lithography using less than 7,125 gallons of clean

6 solvent and fountain solulion additives Per year:$150.oo

7 (ii) ·Nonhealset web offset lithographYuSirig less than 7,125 gallons of solvent and

8 foutain solution additive per year: $150.00

9 (iii) . Heatsel Web offset lithography usirig le~ than 50,000 pounds of ink, cleaning

to solvent, and fountain solution additives: $150

II (iv) . Screen priritingusing less than 7,125 g;tlJonSoftotal solvent used including

11 solvent-based inks. cleaning solvents; ad,heSives and 'coatings: $150.00

13 (v). F1e~oliraptiy(water-based or UV<ured inlis;coating and adhesives) using less than

14 200,000 pounds total ofinks, coatirigs:aDd :idhesivJi:$15(J.00

15 (i) .'SoU:ati~orwaief 'iemedjationo~t(iins:$15(J:60

17 B. General Air Quality Review Fees for New Sources (Minor Source General Permits):

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(i) A:uio'ti<lcjfrq;~.M!tjijiiiting:$5oo,bo

(2)~-t>rYCi~ef.L~5~.w

(3) .. Eme.:geiicYige;'~~iOrS(riatui.,g.s;ordiStiiJ"'" l\le1f.,:$500W

(4).. Generi~l:oab.~gBtidabi8siVeopjilliions:$$Xl,d9

(5)'.•.' Oiiiei~liti&fa>i1iti~ receivingfue,,~yti¥i<QF!:8iHN!l':-N'SPS):. $lli9O.gp

(6) ,Noric~$P,~j39,leiS(Gie8.er.thl.tlOMil~Ojiil®;:$mJJO

7).:. Prlnt10 ','na""'b ,., ."~iiOiiS:JIDj:OO (., ... g;, P!"' .. gmg""""..".•. _....

(8j?·Il';(Bifliil!\;li~ ga5qiiiit,~i;i .•~~J19

Proposed 20, 1l.2 NMAC (Final Draft with Floor Amendments)

2/12/01

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Proposed Amendments to 12/13/00 Dr.Cl With Floor Amendments

StFilieeu( - ~'1aterial Deleted

Qouble lInde,Wlle - ~lateri,,1 Added

Shaded Material - Propo~ed Floor Amendments

(9) SoiUw.ler remedialion syslems: $1000.00

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C. Case~by~Case Air Quality Review Fees For New Suurces (Based on a Source"s Potential-to-Emitl;

(I) Proposed sources with a potential-to-emit ~J.lg or greater than 5 tons pt:r year and less

4 than 25 tons per yt::lr: Sl.lXXlOO

5 (2) Proposed sources with a pOlential-to-t:mit equal 10 or grealer than 25 tons per year and less

6 than 50 Ions per year: $2.000.00

7 (3) Proposed sources with a pmential-Io-emit equal 10 or greater than 50 tons per year and less

8 lhan 75 tons per year: $3.000.00

9 (4) Proposed sources with a potential-to-emit equal to or greater than 75 ton.c; per year and less

to than 100 Ions per year: $4.000.00

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J2 55.000.00

(5) Proposed sources with a potential-to-emil ~qY....<U...1o....Q[ greater than 100 tons per year:

13 D. Federal Program and State Toxic Air,l;"olluiant Review Fees; In Addition to the Air Quality Reviev.'

14 rees:

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(1) 40 CFR 60 Slandards: $1.000.00

(2) 40 CFR 61 Slandards: $1.000.00

(3) 40 CFR 63 Slandards:

(a) Promulgated Slandards: $2,000.00

(b) Case-By-Case MACT Review: $10,000.00

(4) PSDlNon-Att.inment Review: $5,000.00

(5) Acid Rain Review: $5,000.00

E. Pennit Modifications:

(1) P2 Modifications: No Charge

(2) MinorlF1exible Permit Modifications: $1,000.00

Proposed 20.11.2 NMAC (Final Draft with Floor AmeodmenlS)

2112101

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Slril,et-Hu ~la{~rial Del~h:d

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Shuded Material - Proposed Floor Amendments

(3l Major Modifications: $5.000.00

F. Portable Source Relocation Fee: $250.00

G. Adminislrative Moditil,;JIIOnS 10 E'l.isting Permit: 5100.00

H. Surface Disturbance Permit Filing and Inspection Fee: S 100.00 per Jl,.·re

l. Asbestns Unit ,AU): $~I.00

J. Adminis[rative Fees:

(1) Prof~ssjonal Sen-ic.;~s Fee: 575.00 per staff hour

(2) Phott)~npying::

(a) Firs' 10 Pages: $0.50 per page

(bl Additional Pages: 51.00 per page

(.H Regulation Compilation: $20.00

(..J) Public Records Research Fee: $50.00 per staff hour

Proposed 20.11.2 NMAC (Final Draft with Floor Amendments)

2112/01

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Albuquerque/Bernalillo County

Air Quality Control Board

Staff's Proposal to Repeal and Replace 20.11.2 NMAC, Permit ~'ees

Testimony of Mr. Micbael D. Smitb, Environmental Health Department. Air

Quality Division

Good evening Mr. Hearing Officer, members of the Board, my name is Mike Smith with

Albuquerque Environmental Health Department. Air Quality Division. I am an

Environmental Health Scientist responsible for research and revising air quality rules and

regulations. I have been with the Department for more than 10 years and have worked as

an air quality inspector, permit writer and supervisor. I have a Bachelor of Geological

Science Degree from New Mexico State University and have worked in resource law

enforcement for twenty years at the federal, state and local levels.

Before I start my testimony, I would like to explain, for the benefit of the newer Board

members, some the requirements of the New Mexico Air Quality Control Act important

in tonight's healing.

The basic duty of the local air quality board is to "prevent and abate air pollution." To

that end, the Board is required to "adopt, promulgate, pUblish and repeal rcgulations

consistent with the Air Quality Control Ac!." When consideling new regulations or

amendments the Board must take in account the "character and degree of injury to or

interference with health, welfare, visibility and property." Take in account "the public

interest, including the social and economic value of the sources and subjects of air

contaminants;" and finally, take in account the "technical practicability and economic

reasonableness of reducing or eliminating air contaminants from the sources involved and

previous experience with equipment and methods available to control the air

contaminants involved." Also, when considering a new regulation, as staff, we must

provide you with substantial evidence to support a new regulation or amendment. To

satisfy that requirement, and to meet the requirements of the New Mexico Air Quality

Control Act, we are having this hearing tonight to hear testimony from staff and public

concerning this regulation to provide you with the information you need to make an

informed decision.

In tonight's hearing I will make every effort to avoid using acronyms without first

defining the term. If I should use a term or phrase that you do not understand, please

interrupt me and I will explain the word or phrase.

As required by the New Mexico Air Quality Control Act, the Division must provide

public notice of hearing at least 30 days prior to the hearing. To meet this requirement

the Division published notice of tonight's hearing in New Mexico State Register on

December 29. 2000, Staff Exhibit No. 1, and in the Albuquerque Journal on January 7,

200 I, Staff Exhibit No.2. In addition, the Notice of Hearing was posted in City Hall as

required by City of Albuquerque Ordinance, section 2-6-I-4(C)(2)(a). Also, as required

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Testimony of Mr. Michael D. Smith, 2/14/01

by the New Mexico Air Quality Control Act, the Division mailed the Notice of Hearing

to all persons who have made written request 10 receive advanced notice of hearings and

to every company with a permit or registration issued by the Department, and to

contractors issued Surface Disturbance Permits pursuant to 20.11.20 NMAC, Airborne

Particulate Matter. This mailing list is Staff Exhibit No 3. All letters sent were postdated

on January lo'h or Illh, 2001. Staff believes we have met and exceeded the public notice

requirements for this hearing.

As a result of this notice, the Department has received seven wlitten comments or

requests to testify. These are marked as Staff Exhibits Nos. 4 through 9.

Staff E.xhibit No. lOis a copy of our current regulation.

Exhibit No. II is copy of the proposed regulation with minor editorial changes made on

January 18.2001 with the proposed floor amendments we wish to introduce tonight. [

will be referring to this exhibit during my testimony.

Staff Exhibit No.12 is copy of my testimony for the record.

Finally. Staff Exhibits Nos. 14 and 15 are fee comparison tables I will refer to later in my

testimony.

Mr. Hearing Officer, at this time I would like to introduce these exhibits into the record.

My testimony, tonight, is to explain the changes we propose to 20.11.2 NMAC, Permit

Fees. the purpose of the fee regulation, how the permit fee regulation will be

implemented and explain the rational for the proposed fee schedule. Following my

testimony, Mr. Angel Martinez, Division Manager, will discuss issues specific to the

Division's budget.

Why do we have fee regulation in the first place? As required by New Mexico Air

Quality Control Act, 74-2-7 NMSA, and the Joint Air Quality Control Board ordinances,

the Board is required to establish a schedule of construction fees sufficient to cover the

reasonable cost of reviewing and acting upon any application for a permit, including the

costs of implementing and enforcing the terms of any permit, excluding the costs of any

court costs or other costs associated with an enforcement action. In addition, the Board is

required to establish a schedule of emission fees consistent with the provisions of section

502(b){3) of the federal Clean Air Act that requires any air contaminant source that emits

100 tons or more per year of any regulated air pollutant, or 10 tons per year of any single

hazardous air pollutant, or 25 tons per year of combined hazardous air pollutants, to pay

annual emission fees sufficient to cover the direct and indirect costs of a federally

approved major source permitting program.

With this regulation the Division is also establishing new elements for a minor source

operating permit program requiring all sources with a permit or registration with the

Division to pay annual emission fees to cover the direct and indirect costs of ongoing

inspection and compliance activities.

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Tcstimony of Mr. Michacl D. Smith, 1114/01

This regulation also establishes fces to cover the direct and indirect costs of administering

and cnforcing the asbeslOs and dust control programs required by Board regulation.

At this time. please refer to Staff Exhibit No. II. the proposed fee regulation with tloor

amendments. Sincc this is a new regulation, and stan' is proposing to repeal the current

regulation, r am going to discuss the major elements of the proposed regUlation and

proposed tloor amendments.

First, pagc l. line 8, section 20.11.2.1 outlines thc sources that will be affected by this

regUlation. The only major change to this section from the current regulation is the

reqUirement that persons requesting a Surfacc Disturbance Permit, pursuant to 20.11.20

NMAC, Airborne Particulate Matter, shall be required to pay a filing and inspection fee

to cover the direct and indirect costs of administering and enforcing the dust control

program, which will be discussed later in my testimony.

Pagc 2, line II, section 10.11.1.6, Objectives, outlines the objective of the regulation and

statcs the statutory requirement for establishing pelmit fees.

Starting on page 3, line I, section 20.11.2.7, Definitions, lists the definitions that will

used in this Part. The Division is adding several new definitions that will be used to

implement the fee program.

The first new definition is found on page 3, line 21, "potential-to-emit," which defines

the method the Division uses to determine a source potential emissions. This definition

has bcen crafted to be similar to the federal definition for regulatory consistency. This

definition will benetlt sources since it takes in account controls that are integral to the

production process.

At this time, staff would like to present the following tloor amendments to add several

new definitions to this section.

The first new definitions is on page 4, line 3, "qualified small business," which shall

mean a business that has 100 Or fewer employees; is a small business concern as defined

by the federal Small Business Act; does not emit more than 50 tons per year of any

regUlated air pollutant, or 75 tons per year of all regulated air pollutants; and is not a

major source of hazardous air pollutants. This definition is consistent with the Small

Business Stationary Souree Technical and Environmental Compliance Assistance

Program approved the Board on October 7, 1992. The staff is proposing that qualified

small businesses may be eligible for reduced permit and emission fees required by this

Part.

The second new definition we wish to propose is on page 4, line 22, "state air toxic

review," which shall mean a case-by-case permit application review of the potential

emissions of air toxics listed in state regulation 20.2.72 NMAC, subsection IV. This

definition has been added so the Division can establish an appropriate review fee for

toxic air pollutants. Depending on the source's potential-to-emit of toxic air pollutants, a

permit review becomes more complicated and may require additional research and air

dispersion modeling; increasing staff time and effort justifying the additional fee.

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The last definition the Division wishes to add is "stationary source with de minimis

emissions," which means a source with a potential-to-emitless than 5 tons per year of

any regulated air pollutant, excluding hazardous air pollutants; less than tons per year

of any hazardous air pollutant; 5 tons or less of any combination of hazardous air

pollutants per; or 20 perccnt of any lesser threshold per year for a single hazardous air

pollutant established by the Environmental Prolection Agency by rule. This definition

estahlishes the emission limits the Division will use to determine the applicability of a

source in paying permit or emission fees. This definition is not intended to exempt

sources from this regulation, or any other Board regulation. Current and future

regulations may require sources that meet the minimum limits established by this

definition 10 obtain permits and pay emission fees, such as, dry cleaners and other

hazardous pollutant sources that are specifically regulated.

Starting on page 5, line 21, section 20.11.2.11, are the general provisions forthis

regulation. A major change from the current regulation is the requirement to pay all fees

that the time of application. Currently, staff invoices the applicants for any fees due after

the application is processed. By collecting fees at the time of application. not only is the

Division reducing the administrative burden on the staff, but streamlines the review

process by having a complete application package submitted to the Division for review.

All permit fees will be required to sent or delivered directly to the Environmental Health

Department's Finance Section prior to the application being submitted to the Division.

This process will ensure that all fees are deposited into the COlTect air quality accounts.

Subsection B requires all sources to pay an annual emission b'Lsed on the source's

pOlential-to-emit. Sources wishing to reduce their potential-to-emit may do so through

the provisions of 20.11.41 NMAC, Authority-to-Construct.

Annual permit fees will also be sent directly to the Department's Finance Section.

This section also requires that any person submitting an application for a Surface

Disturbance Permit, or notifying the Department of the removal of asbestos containing

material pursuant to 20.11.64 NMAC, Emission Standards for Hazardous Air Pollutants

For Stationary Sources, shall also be required to pay all fees due at the time of

application.

To ensure compliance with this Part, subsection G, page 6, line 22, states that no source

will be in compliance with its permit unless all applicable fees are paid as required by this

Part. As part of an inspection Or annual compliance statement, sources must demonstrate

that all applicable permit fees have been paid.

Starting on page 7, line 5, section 20.11.2.12, Authority-to-Construct Permit Fees; Fee

Calculations and Procedures, describes the methods and procedures used to determine the

permit fee required to process an Authority-to-Construct permit application. The

Di vision intends stay with an emissions-based fee schedule when determining permit

fees, that is, the more you potentially pollute the higher the fee. When determining the

application fee, the applicant must determine the potential-to-emit of all regulated fee

pollutants and fugitive emissions. This procedure, along with increased application fees,

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Testimony of Mr. Michael D. Smith. 2114/01

generally. will mean higher application fees to the applicant The Division believes these

increased fees are justified since the fce not only pays for the permi! review process. but

includes initial baseline inspections. performance testing review. EPA repol1ing and the

source's annual emission fee until the next invoice cycle.

In "dditillll to the emission-based fees. sources that must comply with federal

performance standards or major source review programs shall be required to pay an

additional fee depending on the federal program being reviewed. Federal programs

include new source performance standards. hazardous air pollutant standards. and federal

major source review programs such as. Prevention of Significant Deterioration. Nonattainment Area Pe.mitting and Acid Rain.

Fees to modify an existing permit will also be emission-based in determining if the

modificatIon is a major or minor. Modifications that trigger a federal review program or

require an air tox,ic review will pay the additional federal program and air toxic review

fees. but only for the emission unit subject to the requirement

Page 8. line 3. paragraph 7.outlines an example of an emission-based fee with an

additional federal program review fee added.

At this time. staff would like to offer the following floor amendments. Backing up to

page 7. line 6, section 20.11.12. subsection A. delete the word "reserved" and add,

"Sources applying for a General Permit pursuant to 20.11.41 NMAC. Authority-toConstruct, shall pay the applicable fee found in section 18 of this Pal1."

The Division intends to amend 20.11.41 NMAC. Authority-to-Construct. to allow general

permits to be establish for specific source categories eliminating the need for case-bycase air quality review. expediting the permit issuing process.

At the end of section 20.11.2.12. page 8. line 19. add subsection D as follows. "Qualified

small businesses shall pay one-half of the calculated case-by-case air quality review fees

prior to adding any federal review fees or state toxic review fees." Qualified small

businesses working through the Division's small business assistance program will only

pay half of the case-by-case air quality review calculated, prior to adding additional fees.

The small business would still be responsible for paying for any federal program and air

toxic review fees. This provision is not applicable to sources applying for a general

permit since the costs of the permit has already been reduced.

The Division estimates, under the proposed regulation and based on the average number

of permit applications received. to collect about $111.000 per year in application fees.

Under the current regulation we have invoiced $87,500 for the past year. The Division

estimates it costs approximately $252,000 per year to minimally fund a new source

review program. The remainder of the funding comes from annual emission fees, federal

grant money and City general funds.

Starting on page 8. line 22, section 20.11.2.13. Annual Emission Fees, Fee Calculations

and Procedures. describes the methods and procedures for invoicing and calculating

annual emission fees. All invoicing will be done by the City of Albuquerque with annual

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fees sent to the Department's Finance Section for deposit. As required by law, all fees

will be deposited into City of Albuquerque, Permits Program Fund.

All annual emission fees will be determined based on the source's potential-to-emit

taking in account any permits and SIP-approved regulatory limits, Sources with

registrations issued pursuant to 20.11.40 NMAC, Source Registration, will be reviewed

on a case-by-case basis. and if permitting is required, the Division will permit these

sources at no charge. The Division will be proposing to repeal 20.11.40 NMAC, Source

Registration, and establish a federally enforceable operating permit program for all

applicable sources. Staff will also be proposing several floor amendments to section 18

creating annual emission fees for specific source categories that currently have

Registrations in lieu of Authority-to-Construct Permits.

Annual emission fees will be used primarily to fund the compliance and inspection

activities required by the state Air Quality Control Act, the Joint Air Quality Control

Board Ordinances and Board regulations. In addition, the annual emission fees will also

fund the Small Business Assistance Program. Under the proposed regulation, the

Division estimates it will collect about $756,850 per year in annual emission fees. The

Division estimates it takes approximately $819,000 to minimally fund the inspection,

compliance and small business assistance activities within the Division. Funds from

annual emission fees will also be used for staff training, regulatory development and

federal emission inventory reporting and other activities required by section 502 of

federal Clean Air Act. Remainder of the funding comes from federal grant money and

City general funds.

One m~ior change staff is proposing is to remove the provision in the current regulation

to allow sources to pay emission fees based on actual emissions. This provision is found

in section 1l.2.4.F that reads. "An annual emissions inventory may be submitted for

reviews by the Department for the purpose of annual fee adjustments. This shall be

restricted to sources with established permit allowable emission rates or sources which

have submitted a timely permit application pursuant to Part 42, section I.2.2.A.2. The

emissions inventories shall be submitted to the Department by no later than June I, 1997,

and by April I each year thereafter, for review consideration for every year an adjustment

is sought. Within thirty (30) days of receipt the Department will bill the source for the

review pursuant to Table One of this Part. Any adjustments to the source's permitted or

otherwise established emission fee shall be incorporated and adjusted and billed in

accordance with the billing schedule provisions of this Part." While this provision

benefits sources with large allowable emissions, and on the surface appears to encourage

emission reductions, these sources still have the right to pollute at there permitted levels

at any time. The Division strongly supports emission reduction through permit and by

removing the ability for sources to pay on their actual emissions will encourage sources

to' truly reduce their emission through federally enforceable permit conditions.

The Division received three written comments concerning the removal of the emission

inventory provision from the Department of Energy, General Mills and PNM. Both the

Department of Energy and General Mills believe that by removing the provision to pay

on actual emissions will create a disincentive for voluntary pollution reductions. General

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Testimony of Mr. Michael D. Smith, 1/]4/01

Mills, Staff Exhibit No.6, stated in their letter, "that the proposed system of fees creates a

disincentive to minimize air emissions because ... the fee is based on potential worst-case

activities, and effectively disallows pollution prevention activities from quickly

recovering cost savings associated with emission fee reduction."

The Department of Energy will also testify the current provision encourages pollution

rrevention.

The Department disagrees that removing the prOVision will discourage pollution

prevention, and is proposing In the fee structure a pollution prevention modification at no

charge to encourage sources to reduce their emissions through federally enforceable

pollution prevention techniques or processes. Pollution prevention means the reduction.

or other practices that reduce or eliminate the creation of pollutants, through increased

efficiency in the use of raw materials, energy, water or other resources, or protection of

natural resource~ by conservation. Source reduction includes any practice which reduces

the amount of any hazardous substance or pollutant prior to recycling or treatment,

including equipment or technology modifications, process modifications, refOlmulation

or redesign of products, substitution of raw materials and improvement in housekeeping.

maintenance, training, and inventory control. Pollution prevention techniques or

practices do not include add-on air pollution controls used to limit air emissions or

emission reductions based on decreased production needs. PNM, in its letter, Staff

Exhibit No.7, understands that emission fees can be reduced through pennit modification

but chooses not to modify based on its business needs which is consistent with the

Division's proposal that sources pay on what they are allowed to emit by pennit.

Page 9, line 21, section 20.11.1.14, Filing and Inspection Feef. for the Removal of

Regulated Asbestos Containing Material; Fee Calculations and Procedure, describes the

methods and procedures used to calculate filing and inspection fees for the removal of

regulated asbestos containing material. The section remains unchanged from the existing

requirements, however, as required by the general provisions of this Part, all fees must be

paid at the time of application. Currently the inspectors invoice the sources after the

notification is received increasing the administrative burden on the staff. By requiring

fees at the time of application, the inspector will be free of this administrative burden and

spend more time in the field conducting inspections.

The Division estimates it takes approximately $84,000 annually to minimally fund this

program, and expects to collect approximately $63,000 year in fees based on average

number of notifications received. Remainder of the funding comes from federal grant

money and City general funds.

Page II, line 8, section 20.11.2.15, Filing and Inspection Fees for Surface Disturbance

Pennits; Fee Calculations and Procedures, describes the methods and procedures in

calculating filing and inspection fees for Surface Disturbance Permits issued pursuant to

20.11.20 NMAC, Airborne Particulate Matter. Currently, the Division does not charge

for these permits and is proposing to charge a per acre fee to cover the program costs of

two inspectors. The dust control program is an import part of our Particulate Malter SIP

and must be adequately funded. For 1999 and the first quarter of 2000, monitors in

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Bernalillo County exceeded the annual National Ambient Air Quality Standard for

Paniculate Matter. !t's vital we not continue this trend and the Division is aggressively

addressing problem areas. such as dust control. in an effo'lto avoid non-attainment

status. The fees for Surface Disturbance Permits not only funds the dust control program,

but hopefully will encourage businesses to disturb only the acreage necessary for their

project.

The Division received one comment letter from Sandia Propenies Limited concerning the

proposed fcc and will address the comment later in my testimony.

Page II. line 19. section 20.11.2.16, Fee Errors. Corrections and Refunds. describes the

procedures to be taken to correct fee errors. make corrections or request refunds. As

stated in the general provisions of this Pan, the Director may deduct a reasonable

professional service fee to cover the costs of staff time in processing a permit or request.

Page 12, line 19. section 20.11.2.17, Failure to Pay. establishes the violation for sources

failing to pay any fee reqUired by this Pan. and the procedures to be used to calculate any

penalty and interest due consistent with the provision section 502(b}(3}(C}(ii} of the

federal Clean Air Act.

Staning on Page 13. line 5 continuing to end of the regulations is the proposed fee

schedule. The fee schedule was combined into one section for the convenience of the

reader and to simplify future amendments to the fee schedule.

The first subsection addresses annual emission fees. The Division is not proposing to

change the fee pollutant rates for non-hazardous or hazardous air pollutants and will

remain at 531.00 and $250.00 per ton, respectively. The current federal presumptive fee

rate for major sources is $34.87 per ton.

The Division is proposing to raise the minimum annual fee from $100.00 to $150.00.

Sources will be required to pay $150.00 or $31.00 per ton whichever is greater, unless

otherwise stated. Upon fun her review of the regulation, staff recommends the following

floor amendments. Staning page 13, line 10, add the phrase "unless otherwise listed".

Starting on line 14, add a new paragraph 4, "1'4} Annual Emission Fees for Specific

Source Categories,Uthen list the following:

"(a) Auto Body Repair and Painting:

(i) One Spray Booth: No Charge

(ii) Two or More Spray Booths: $150.00

(b) Chromium Electroplating: $150.00

(c) Degreaser; Using Organic Solvents

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(I) Non-halogenated solvents- using less than 2,200 gallons of anyone solventcontaininE material, and 5,400 I!allons of anv combination of solvent-containing .... ....-.. ....

materials: $150.00

(ii) Halogenated solvents- using less than I,200 gallons of anyone solventcontaining material, and 2,900 gallons of any combination of solvent-containing

materials: $150.00

(d) Dry Cleaners (Non-Major): $150.00

(e) Emergency Generators: $150.00

(f) Gasoline Service and Fleet Stations: $250.00 or $31.00 ton, which ever is greater

(g) Naltlral gas or distillate fueled fired boiler less than to million BTU used exclusively

for residential, commercial or institutional heating and hOI waleI': No Charge

h) Printing, Publishing and Packaging Operations:

(i) Sheetfed (nonheatset) Offset Lithography using less than 7,125 gallons of

cleaning solvent and fountain solution additives: $150.00

(ii) Nonheatset Web Offset Lithography using less than 7,125 gallons of solvent

and fountain solution additive: $150.00

(iii) Heatset Web Offset Lithography using less than 50,000 pounds of ink,

cleaning solvent. and fountain solution additives: $150.00

(i v) Screen Printing using less than 7,125 gallons of total solvent used including

solvent based inks, cleaning solvent, adhesives and coatings: $150.00

(v) Flexography (Water-based or UV-cured inks, Coatings and Adhesives) using

less than 200,000 pounds total of inks, coatings and adhesives: $150.00

(i) Soil or Water Remediation Operations: $150.00

Ul Stationary Sources with De Minimis Emissions: No Charge"

It is the intent of the Division to use this list of specific source categories for non-major

sources when detennining source applicability and ensure fair fee assessment.

The next two subsections of section 18 establishes the fee schedule for an initial air

quality review to obtain a construction pennit from the Division.

On page 14, line 17 the Division initially wanted to reserve this subsection for minor

source general pennits in lieu of a case-by-case air quality review for new sources. Upon

further review, the Division proposes to add the following fees for general pennit review

to avoid having to open this regulation again for public hearing.

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Testimony of Mr. Michael D. Smith, 2/14/01

On page 1-1. starting on line 17, strike the word "reserved" and add the following.

paragwphs:

"( I) Auto Body Repair and Painting: $500.00

(2) Dry Cleaners (Non-Major): $500.00

(3) Emergency Generators: $500.00

(4) Generic Coating and Abrasive Operations: $500.00

(5) Other Fueling Facilities Receiving Fuel by Truck or Rail (Non-NSPS): $1000.00

(6) NOI1-NSPS Boilers: $500.00

(7) Printing and Packaging Operations: $500.00

(8) Retail and Fleet Gasoline Service Stations: $500.00

(9) Soil/Water Remediation Systems: $1000.00"

On page 15, starting on line 2 are the proposed case-by-case air quality review fees for

new sources. This is an emission-based fee schedule were fees increase as the source's

potential-to-emit increases. and will be based on the source's potential-to-emit all fee

pollutants. including quantifiable fugitive emission. The fee not only covers the cost of

permit review, but also includes costs for construction and baseline inspections,

compliance test reviews and the source's annual emissions fee until the next billing

period. For those sources with potentially low emissions of toxic or hazardous air

pollutants. an additional air toxic review fee will be required which will offset the costs

of these more complicated permits.

The fees proposed are substantially higher than the current fee schedule. Currently, a

source with pre-controlled emission less 100 tons would pay only $500.00. That covers

about 7 staff hours, assuming $75.00 per staff hour. The proposed fee schedule would

require sources to pay up to $5000.00 which offset up to 67 staff hours; assuming 40

hours for permit review and processing, 8 hours air quality modeling review, with the

remaining fee covering construction and baseline inspections, compliance testing, and

annual emission fees for the source until the next billing period.

In addition to the emission-based air quality review fee, any source that must comply

with any federally required performance standards or control technologies will be

assessed an additional review fee to cover the cost of implanting the federal program.

These federal review fees are found on page 15, starting on line 13, section D. The most

common federal program reviewed are the new source performance standards. or NSPS,

found in 40 CFR 60; which would add $1000.00 to the initial air quality review fee. As a

rule. NSPS requires additional recordkeeping, reporting and compliance testing for the

source and the Division.

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Testimony of Mr. Michael D. Smith, 2/14/01

On page 15. line 23, section E, establishes the fee schedule for permit modifications. The

Division intends to revise 20.11.41 NMAC, Authority-to-Construct, to establish

modIfication criteria for pollution prevention modifications, minor Or Ilexible pennit

modifications and major modifications. Generally speaking, major modifications will be

those modifications that significantly increase a source's potential-to-emit requiring more

extensive permit review and processing, modeling, and inspection and compliance

activities. As with the case-by-case air quality review, any modification that must

comply with a federal program requirement will be charged an additional federal program

review fee.

On page 16. line 2, [he Division proposes a Portable Source Relocation Fee to cover the

costs of permit review and modeling at the di fferent locations a portable source may

relocate.

When establishing the case-by-case air quality review fees we did not compare our fee

structure to other jurisdictions because the emission-based fee schedule fit Our needs. It

is also very difficult to compare pennit fees with other jurisdictions. The State of New

Mexico. for example, is currently revising their fee structure to an effort-based fee

schedule, that is, the more emission units a source proposes, the higher the permit fee. In

addition, the State charges fees for sources that must comply with federal requirements

along with an air quality modeling fee, toxic air pollutant review fee and a nonrefundable

filing fee. On reviewing the State's proposed regulation, and based on some sample

calculations on recent pennits issued by our Department, we believe our fee schedule is

comparahle to the State's proposal. However, I believe its more telling to compare our

proposed fee structure with other metropolitan area in the Southwest. For this purpose I

picked Maricopa County, Arizona, which includes Phoenix, and Clark County. Nevada,

which includes Las Vegas.

Staff Exhibit 13 outlines the different fee approaches and compares tonight's proposal

with the State of New Mexico, Clark County and Maricopa County. Since each

jurisdiction has developed a fee program that fits its individual needs, it is difficult to

make a direct comparison. I believe, however, the comparison does show that

Albuquerque's new source review fees are reasonable even considering the increases

being discussed.

Page 16, line 4, subsection H, establishes a $100 per acre fee for Surface Disturbance'

Pennits. The purpose of this fee to cover the costs of administering and enforcing the

provisions of 20.11.20 NMAC, Airborne Particulate Maller. As previously discussed,

Albuquerque has exceeded the annual National Ambient Air Quality Standard for

Particulate Maller in 1999 with high levels continuing into the year 2000. Albuquerque

must act now to control dust generated by land disturbance to avoid federal action.

Managing the dust control program takes a minimum of two full-time positions to

process pennits, conduct on-site inspections, respond to complaints and perfonn the other

administrative malleI'S related to the program. Again, I compared our proposed dust

control program fees with those of Clark and Maricopa Counties, Staff Exhibit No. 14.

Our proposed fee of $100 per acre is less than Clark County's fee but more than

Maricopa County's fee, however, Maricopa County's fee is annual fee. The Annual

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Testimony of Mr. Michael D. Smith. 2/14/01

Block Permit required by Maricopa County is available for organizations that perform

routine maintenance on utilities, paved and unpaved roads, road shoulders, alleys and

puhlic right-of-ways al non-contiguous sites.

We have recei"ed one comment concerning our proposed fees from Sandia Properties

Limited. Staff Exhihit No.9, regarding master planned projects. such as Ventana Ranch,

which encompassed approximately 900 acres. When applying our proposed fee the

developer would be required to pay $90,000, or approximately $30.00 per house

assuming 3 houses per acre in addition to fees already paid to the City for project

appro,·al.

Looking at other jurisdictions, this same project would cost at least $32,510 or more in

Maricopa County. since permits must be renewed annually. and $98.100 in Clark County.

Staff believes that the proposed fee $100 per acre is reasonable and expects to generate

approximately 580.000 in revenue per year hased on the average number of acres

disturbed per year.

The Asbestos Unit fee found on Page 16. line 5. subsection I, will remain the same.

Page 16. starting on line 6. section J, establishes miscellaneous administrative fees the

DivislOn will charge. The $75 per hour Protessional Service Fee was established

assuming an average employee salary, plus benefits and overhead. Maricopa County's

professional sen-ice fee is $70 per hour and staff helieves the proposed fee is reasonable.

The fees established for photocopying and regulation books are consistent with

Department policy.

The public records research fee has been established to cover the direct staff costs of

complying with information requests concerning permits, enforcement actions and

complaints.

Mr. Hearing Officer this concludes my testimony and wish to end by quoting Miguel De

Cervantes from his classic Don QUixote by saying, "that what costs lillIe is valued less."

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Testimony of Mr. Michael D. Smith, 2/14/01

Table 1 - ew Source Re iew ( SR) Fee Comparison

MAJOR .'

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I'" JtJRI DICTIO FIL GFEE RE lEW 0 R E 0DIFICATIO DDiTfO :L"FE

REVIEW ..: ,..... '.< ."':" -< -< '~" .,.>:'.

NSPS- $1,000

NESHAP- $1 000

City of Albuquerque / P2 - No Charge MACT- $2,000 - $10,000

Bernalillo County None $1,000 - $4,000 $5,000 Minor - $1,000 PSDlNon-Attainment - $5,000

(Proposed) Major - $5000 Acid Rain - $5,000

Air Toxic Review - $500

Admin. Permit Amend. - $100

NSPS - $1 ,160

NESHAP - $1,160

State of ew Mexico MACT 1,160 - $23,200

(Proposed) $500 $1.160 ' $4,640 PSD on-Attainment - $1 ,400

PSD (I etting Only) - $4,640

Model Review Fee - $3,480

Air Toxic Review - $1 856 - $23,200

Clark County, Nevada' $251 $44.80/ton (Based on the PTE of All Regulated Air Pollutants) + Admin. Permit Amend. - $100

(Las Vegas) $179/emission unit (NSR Emission Unit Fee) = Total NSR Fee

Depending on Minor - $225 - Annual Permit Renewal Fee - $2,500 - $225

Maricopa County, Arizona $160 Source, Either Actual $7,000 - $40,000 $1,500 Performance Te ts - $640 - $450

(Phoenix) Time @ $70/hr or Major - $10,000 Permit Transfer - $250 - $200

$650 - $250 Admin. Permit Amend. - $120 - $70

• In Clark County, all fees adjusted annually to reflect changes in the Urban Consumer Price Index (CPl-U)

.~~~~~~.~--_ .. Staff Exhibit # 13 - New Source Review

( SR) Fee Compari on
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Testimony of Mr. Michael D. Smith, 2/14/01

Table 2 - Fee Comparison for Dust Control Activities

Jurisdiction Permit Reauirements Fee Fee Duration

City of Albuquerque / Soil Disturbance ~O.75 $100/acre End of Project Bernalillo County (ProDosed)

State of New Mex ico Not Regulated N/A N/A

Clark County, Nevada Soil Disturbance;:: 0.25 acres

Trenching 100 feel $109'/acre End of Project (Las Vegas) Demolition;:: 1000 square feet

Maricopa County

Annual Block Permit"- $2,000

Soil Disturbance;:: 0.1 acre 0.1 acre < 1.0 acre- $75 Annual (Phoenix) > 1.0 acre- $36/acre Dlus $110

I In Clark County. all fees adjusted annually to reflect changes in the Urban Consumer Price Index (CPI·U)

2 One permit covering multiple locations at which construction will stllr! wllhin 12 months of permit issuance,

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- Dust Control Activities
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TestimoDY Regarding Proposed Changes To 20.11.2 NMAC, Permit Feel

FellraarJ 1., :Z001

BriaD D. MeGill

Environmental Manager

Rio Grande Portialid Cement Corporation

I. Inaoduction

A. In this day ofextcDsivc regulllliOll, air quality penuits cau be vital to the S\ICCCS8

ofa fit:lliIy. The riab! pennit cau make the difference in a COmpallY's ability to

J'QCt to IIllIlkct dcm1nds, and ID adeqll&tdy finallcccl and cflicieDt program cau

make the cliffi:rcnce in promoting public health while sustainina economic

developllUllll.

The decisioDll ofthis Bow cau playa huge role in the local CCOIWmy. This is

especially true in light ofthe preseDt tmId towllds regionalism. LilcewiJe, the

cIay-to-day activities ofthe City's air prOJll1llll hu BD 0IllOina impact on OlD'

businesses. Th=fore, _ believe it is essential that the City's prosram bas the

appropriate resources to do itsjob. Because we all stlIDcI to benefit from aD

aclcquate1y finaDccd program, we support the City's rtafIi' effortsto obtain the

resources they a=l to proviclc 1IClYicc:.

Despite OlD' support for the sta1f's e1forts, the request for a fee increase mila

some fimd8IDental questions, some ofwhich we believe ClIDDOt be adequetely

enswered in the short time we bve tonight. Our COIlC8lDl, which I will elaborm

onmore fully, are baJed on three flmdamental concepts: equity (or fainIeu),

accountability, BDcIlevd ofscrvicc. These Issues also go to more "real.world"

matters associalecl with the air quality prognun, such as cIay-to-day JD&n&ICDIC1It

ofthe TItle V pemUt fund and TItle V program staffiDg, and also proBT"'"ma!jc

matters like regioualirm. marltct-based emisriolll tradiDa. IIId Ur quality

1IIIllinment.

Please make IW mistake, _ support the local operating permit quelity prognun,

and as the Dumbers c1_ly show, WI! bve been its bigest finencieJ CODlIibuulr

over the years. But tonight we have some serious questioDll about this reauIlllion.

First, I'd like to take a few mome.ms to describe a few basics ofbow facilities are

regulated under the air progam IIld the regulatory lW'ehllJl!an' tor asseumg feel.
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n. Air Quality Permittina • Geueral

A. Air quality pennitting requirements for a given soun:e will v~ dcpendins on the

process type and the type endmB&DiNde ofregulated emissions that will result

from operaIing the process. The law and regulations require that each facility

over a specified threshold apply for and obtain a permit. Here in Bcmalillo

C01lDty, we have quite an impressive 1ISIorlmcnt ofSlICb sources.

B. Various lcvcla ofair quality permitliDglnc1ude Source RcgistratiOD, AutbDrity.toConstrua, NSPS. NESHAP. Major NSRJPSD, and Tille V Operatina Pennits.

C. Ofthe various 1Mb ofpermitlins that may be ~uircd ofa 1IOun:c, the Soun:e

Registr8riOll and Authority-to-Construet proerams are truly loC8l in natarc, m1

have the weakest link 10 the federBl Clean Air Act. At the state level, theIe

permits are more commonly Ja:1ow u "construction pezmits. In fcdenl Clean Air

terms, the local authority~onstruct program falls into the C8!eaorY of"minor

m:w soun:e review."

D. At the o1bcr end oflbe pezmitting spectrum, the Title V operating permit proaram

is closely prescribed by federal reqlliremeul$. These requirancma arc fOllDli in

Tille V ofthe Clean Air Act and in Part 70 ofTItle 40 10 the Code offeclenl

~su1aliOl15. Title V SOurce8 are called 'majorsourca;" because oftbcillQtus

under the rel"J,tjOl15

E. TheNM Air Quallty Contrn1 Act allOW! the collection of_blepennit feel

to C~ the costs of the conatrudion pennit program including the costs of

reviewing and Ktina on pennita, m1 cnf'orcina theirten:nI, excluding legal costs

ofan enfbrcemcnt dOlL

F. SignifiC8llt1y. the NM Air Quality Control Act Iw a differentsection that

specifically allows for collection oflIIlDIIl1 emis&ioDS feel eonsiatent with Title V

ofthe Clean Air Act m1 its rcaulatioa&

O. The two types offeCII have a difi"ereot basis in state and Cederallaw and each Iw a

difi'ercnt purpose. One: is a permitliDa fee dedle:ated towards fundina the

collItnICIion pctmit propam, and the other is an cmiuioDi fee dediC8%ed 10ward

fimdiJla the state m1local Title V propmn.

The differmce is bieb1igbted in the mteral zequiRmentll for the TItle V propm

and emissions fees. Under the fcdctaIlaw. local progrllllll must JIIlIl'IIDblC that

TItle V emissions f_ will be used CXl:lusivcly for the costs ofthe TIlIe V permit

program.

The idea behind lbiI nquirement is flIirIy straiahtforwud. It is iDelluilllble, or

Wliair. to RqUirc m~or sourcessubjcc;t to TItle V to shoulder the expen'lC of

regula1iDg all other industry.
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H. ID order to provide unifonn aa;OIIII1ability, and a level oftraDSpareacy in tile

manapment ofthese fees, the state law requires !bat the local authority establish a

desipated air quality permit fund, to be Uled exclusively for meeting the costs of

the pennit program. In addition, the federal Pan 70 regulation requires an initial

lll:counrilli and periodic accountings ofbo..... the fee revenues are used soley to

cover the cost!! ofthe permittins prognm.

III. Considerations In The AlI- Penn.it Application ProceN

A. Despite the level ofpermitlina, alI air quality pemUli will coutain fedml1y

enforceable limitations, citbc:r process or emissions, that restrict the amount of

poUuranu that can be emitted on an hourly and annua1 basis. These emissions IDe

tcmlCd to be emissions alIowed by permit or "all0wa1lle emissions".

B. These limitations are imposed to ensure complIance with fedc:ra1, state, and local

air qualIty standards that IDe designed to protect the publICI' health and the

e:nvironmt:Dl.

C. These federally enforceable limitationl are based at least partially on infonnation

contsined. in the permitspplication.

D. By regulatioll, a source must bue their emission eltimat81 on a facilities

"potenlial.to.emit" or PTB. Emi..noDll wed on PTE are tbeoretIcal emiSsiODll

that have beeD derived assuminsthatthe process is running 11100% capldty. A

definition ofPTE can be found in ScetlOIl 20.1 1.2.7.E Oil page 3 ofthe proposed

n:glllation.

E. As al1rldesy to ensure both compliaDce wiJh the hourly and IUIDUB1 emissions

limitationl ~iDed. in an air quality penn.it and to have a certaiJl depe of

operational flexibility in m unpredictable mllkct. a soun:c will often slightly

over-state emissions beyond what is indicated by PTE.

IV. Title V EmissioDll Fea

A. Current Fees are wed on Actual Emiuions

1. Actual EIllissions are derived through m annual emissions inVCDtory

submiuc4 by Title V SO\II'teI.

2. Inventory is reviewed by EHD stlI1f.

3. FHS are based upon the inventory lifter staffreview and approval.

4. Cumutsystem allows SOIItCU to pay feel hued 0I1llCtua1 emlssiODlll1Ot

theomicaI 1llllXim1lllll.

S. Allowsfor fluctating eccmomi.c conditions.

15. Promo1eI pollutiOl1 preventiOIl- A source balmeconomic incentive to

reduce emissions.
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a. Proposed cIwlges to NMAC 20.\ \.2 will allow f=I to be bued upon permitted

allowable cmissiolll.

\. Emilsiona fce& will be hued on tbcarctical maximum emissions.

2. No provisiolll for fluctuatina economic conditiona.

3. Removes economic based pollution prevenJion iDceIItiVe8.

V. Title VProgram Budpt

A. EHD Title V Pee Projectiolll from ]enumy, 200\ indicate rhaI smendiq NMAC

20.\ 1.2 u proposed would Jncreese collection ofTille Vfees from S224,176 to

S462,937peryear. This is oven 100% im=Ise ofS238,761.

B. The EHD Analy&iJ OfAir QualIty Division Pund 242 (]snuay, 2001) indicated

tbar the change in collections for TItle V&0_ill SO even thoup the romments

section ofthis documem indicates tbar Title V sources would pay fees based on

allowables.

c. AmImiDa !hat III c:rrvr WIll made and fil;toring increased Title V collections iuto

the analysis ofthe fund indicates tbar the totII1 Air Quality Division Fund would

be S858,825 ofwhich Title V l'=I constituted. 54% share.

D. The Divisiolll ]lIIlumy, 2001 Line Item Budget for FY 99. 00, and 01 WIll not

sufficiently detailed to detmnine the number ofsta1fpoBitiollland n:sources that

the Title V fees lIle supportina.

VI. RGPC Cmu:ems

We have a Dumber ofquestiOllll tbar we bcIiC\'e merit carefbI comidc:ration. The

fee resu\ation preseDtcd tonight really goesto the fi&cal direction ofthe propam,

and tbaefore, itftmdamentally folD18 the basis for the propam. fee payers,

pennitteeI, end citizals with a stake in the community. we have a vital interest in

this resuJation.

r d like to nm through soma ofour qucstiOlll, end then invite the Board to <evisit

them invidually sfler I am done.

A. Pint, on the fiI;e ofthe state: and the federal law, thia Board sppem to be the

entity that may be ultimately liable for the fee system, the management ofthe

timd, and the propam priorities that are supported by the fund. the ""tily that

mq be ultimately responsible, how does this Board interact with the CitY

propam7

B. We·... all awur: ofthe City/COIIII11n=sr:r and the tread tDwuda regionalism.

How will the Board end the City mlIIIIIP the.. funds and the propam in \iiht of

the coasolidlll:ion ofgovr:mmcatll?

C. What is relaliou oCTide V budget to SCuc:ral city budget? Orthe city e.a.te!prise

funds?
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D. We're all aware ofthe City'. well-publici;zed fiscal WOei. In times ofrevenue

shartfa1l., !be Title V program C8DIIOt be caught up local budgetary politics. How

can the Board IlDd the City l!I2!IIte that the Title Vprosram is manased "offbudaet" from other budgetery COlllidcntiOlll so U to be protected from other

UlII'CI8Iecl fiaca1 COIll::Cl'nlEo Is theft • separate: Title Vbudgc:t? Or is it interminalcd with the llcnc:nl pmnit

program budget? Ifthey are intcnningIcd, bow CIIlwe ~unt for Title V

revenues IlDd expenditures?

F. Has thae been an accoUDting as described in the Part 70 N1e? Wba1 wiD there

be? How CIIlstIIkcholden piD. KeelS to !be iDfmmation? Is there • furmal

meehaniSlll for stakeholded to request an ac:e:ountiDa?

O. It'. without question that this BowIlDd the City need resources to provide an

adequate level ofservice. How are the Title Vbudgetal}' requirements derived?

Nmnber ofemployees, hourI, otherresourccs. 1fha1fthe budid is derived from

Title V fees? Is halfofthe stafftime dedicated to administrating the Title V

program? How are these details tneked? Wbat CIIl we do as stalceholdm do to

CIISIIre that the Title V Program is sdeqlllllely staffed?

H. Bceausc our concerns will require some tcSesrch and colISultatio... with the City'.

prosram we believe It is prudent for the Board to bear our conccms tonight,

IlDd to defer KtIoD on this reiulstion W1tIl after we've bad • chance to coDSU1t

more fully with the City stsft
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SENT BY:Sandla NatIonal Labs Sl1l! S45 7154

i 2- 2- 1 j 4:24PM: Envlro. Mi~t. 7131~ 281 fi126j# 2/ 4

TITLE V FEES BILLED FOR 2000 - 2001

WITH CURRENT FEE ADJUSTMENT PROVISIONS

AND

ESTIMATE OF POTENTIAL CONDITIONS

WITHOUT FEE ADJUSTMENT PROVISIONS

FKinty Cu"ent Condition Potential

with Condition wftho..

FeA Ad"RJstn1en,. FAA .. L

Albuquerque Publishl,.g CO. S 1.271 S 1.271

Chevron Bulk Terminal 12,431 12.431

COA/Cerro Colorado 6.510 8.510

Delta Power (Cobfsa) 42.663 .2,583

Cresent (AJbuq. Plaza) B9V 899

DOE 3,232 78,461

Earth Grains 4,838 4,838

EJastlmold 9,500 i,sOO

General EIectr1c 2.e3& 2.836

KAFB(DOD) 18.631 18.631

LaFarge (W. Mobile) 4.836 4.838

PNMReevee 11.292 152.923

Rio Grande Pottland Cement 83,026 84,606

UNM 8,905 28.328

VA. Hospital 1.333 1,333

Vulcan 12.276 12,27&

TOTAL $224,176 $462,937

DIFFERENCE =$238.761

Does not include COAlSouthside Water Reclamation Plant and Centex

American Gypaum

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ANAl.VSlSorAIRQrA.U1Y DMSION JUND 141

J'D"" 10. 1111

EmMATDICOLLECTIONS UNDER CIJRUNT VIRSVS PROPOSED AIR QUALll'V PEaMIT ft& REGULATION. JO'NMAC 11.11

DlSCRlPTION OF IIII.LmG ESTIMATED ESTIMATED ESTIMATED . COMMEI'lJ'S

COLLECTIONS COLLECI'1ONS CHAAGEIN

lINDER UNDER COLUCTJOI\"'S

aJRaEI\T NOMSDJ

fIE P'D

UGIJLATlOf( UGULATION

Td.le V Seurces AMuaJ BiUiD.a $22.4.176.00 S224.17i.OO so.tO Raaoval ofprcMsi<ln.lolillY CIl.a.ls

MinI'ScJura. "'-~l BiRmt SI18.154,01 SII~'S ••OO $0.00 NodUilRe-1lt rom

GuoIiM S«rioeSmlion ADIIIl BiI.Iiq S39.J50.00 148.114.00 $1.424.00 Flit b clIanR!!d to fee but:d CD emissiCN

An.IuJ B11lill SI6.aoo.OO S2S,200,OO S8.400.GG lncrase to SISO tom SJOO 1* . SuraDillbriJMoe 'emd P. 10.00 $89,000.«» $19.000.08 SIOO petlac6tubecl

MACT SoInlCI Ann.I BiBaR: "-4DO.tO $j 400,00 SI.OO Nt! CMnlle mtie

Permit ~c:IlItCil RevlGw Pees Sj() 2SO." 569.000.00 S.I.'~.oO Review fees arc bcl6M.....

A5baUJI APDlicatioo FeD! SJ'J,'ZIO.OO S39,2IUO SO.OO Noct.Kiin files

ScuGlS FIllII!l SJ,05e.OI SI,05O.00 10.00 Noca.a.tI.

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Over Tune

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Benefits

Retiree HefJltr'l

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OOfhina Allowance

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Pnntlng & Oupll~tln9 78 2,600

4.151

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ubtotlll $2..551

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ATTACHMENT C

Attachment C is a copy ofthe Hearing Record Transcriptfor February 14,2001
AIR QUALITY CONTROL BOARD Multi-Page'" FEBRUARY 14,2001

ALBlJQUBItQUE/BItJUIALILUl coolin AlII. QUALITY COJrlTIlOl. I!C1tIl.OTRANSCRIPT OF PADCE.!.DIIIGS

THE Il£ARING OP'FICI!R: (r I"..rybody can

tat.... 1I....t, ...·11 go an.ali ..nd beqln.

OUy. W. an qoing to beqin. For the

C'Ol'IIll881on cnollllber, "t One Civic Piau, th..

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TRANSCRIPT or PROCEEDINGS

Februlry 14, 2001

!I: 1$ p.r.. COUlfCll. CHNmI!R.!I

One Clvil; Pl.:r.., MW

AitlIlqu...:'l"'''' 11M 97102

City/County l!Iulldlnq in Altlllqulrqu.. , lIev Hu:lco. The

tl.... II 5:15 p.III.

Albuquerque/8ern..llllo County Air Qudlty Control

BOl!lrd. a!8Q known all the AIr Board Or Do.rd, to

13 consIdlr the pcopo,ed \/1'0 and ["pl..celllint or SectIon

" ]G,l1 2 "",,c. If..V I'I.... leo AG/IIln1etutiv.. Code. fMrmlt

r..... ,,190 known "'e p"rt 2 or r"<;Iul"tlon 2.

" My n_ 11 Arthur 010n.. : 411I ... fOOMlr

" Dll/IIlber of the Albuquerqu../S..rn411110 county A1r

" Qu.Uty Control So.rd .nd 1 v111 be the he.rlnq

" offlo::.r tor thi. h....rln<;l.

20 I 411I .190 4h .ttOrn.y llcen•• d to pr4ctlce In

the .. tate of lIew M."tlco. And I not. for the record

22 IlEI'OII.TEO BY: DEMiSI; !WPU, I(JII cell. 1124

Paul B4c.. Prote,.lonal COllrt IlAIporten

23 500 Pau:rth St.r••t. tnI. SuIt.. lO!

Albuquerque. PI_ 1Il...ico In02

th.t theu 4re three lflenlbllre ot the Air ao.rd pre lent

4t the pubUC he&rinq thls eVOl'nlnq. Mr. P...ul

" Sllve.[lll...n. 101 •• lI"ren W...ntvorth .nd Dr. J(.r"n Mulloy.

The o::ourt reporter toniqht i .. D.nl•• Il:op.n

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APPEAMANCES

IIiDEX

11 h.4rlnq oftlc.r. I ..111 ,,110 rul. on whetner ..vld.nc.

r.pre..ent.lnq the f1ntl of 1'.ul S.c. Prot"..llon.l Court

E"ch ceteqo.ry v111 be h••rd In the 1&lII.. ord.r

The decblon uqerdlnq ..heth.r te.t1l8.ony 1.

or;: exhlbltl _y b.......Itt.d Into th.. record .nd on .ny

P'ln...Uy, .ny int.reltOl'd pe.rtie. will h4ve ",n

Reporterl. Anyon.. vho vi.he,. to obt... 1n ... tr......crlpt

I[[.l........nt or refMtitlou...UI be nw.d. by Il\4l ... the

of th1. heerlnq r""y ord.. r • treneo::rlpt from th... t

rule. Of evidence •• UlOId 1n the court-II howev.r. I

1'1....IU blIqln the h."t.inq with the t.8tllRony

lIext, ...ddltlon.1 propon.nt., p<lopl. vho ...r ..

The Air Bo...rd ne.rlngl do not foUow th..

te9tllwny .lr...dy qi ...en.

h....e 40 opportunlty to t.ltlfy. After th.t, th.

of the proponent. the Albuqu.r<{lJe Envirol'llllentd H.d th

..bout the propoud VPO 4nd rep14c....nt ot pert 2.

DefMrtlllllnt Air QUlll11ty 01v1l10n...ho ..UI t.ltlfy

..111 lllflit te.tilrlony ..hlch 1. lrrelev...nt or rep<l"t..

Notion. or objectlonl lfl4d•.

oppon.ntl wUl h.v....n oppo.rtunlty to teltlfy.

opportW'lity to t ../ltify.

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REI'OII.TER'S CERTlnCATE

TRAHSCRI PT OF PROCESOIIIGS

P'or the City of Albuquerque EoviroJ'll'lOlntd

, He41tn Dep"rtlllent:

7 MR. MICHAll.L D. SMITH

HR. ANGEL KARTINEI • .n. 8 P.O. BOil: 1293

Altluqu..r'lu", 11M 87103

2 THE H&AAINC OFFICER: HR. ARTHUR G. OLONA

HR. PAUL SILVERMAII, COUNTY

3 MS. KAIl!N WENTWORTH, CITY

DR. STEPHEN PIUlIII, CIn

4 rtS. Jt,AHIiE BASSETT, CITY

DR. KAREII MULLOY, CITY

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I or pl!ople 111'10 IIbh to t.utHy tahlqhl, I lIW.y 111111t the

.2 MIOllnt or tll1l8 "4eh pIIIc.on ".)' l:e.tUy. [r you 114nt

J to tenity Ind hllle not .1qnllCl up, pl•••• do 10

, 1nned1etdY. The liqn-up 1I"... t 1. loe.ted In the t>.ek

of the COOll.

e tveryone who t.,.titlee 101111 be ,vorn In by

1 the eourt ceportu' beton 91vl119 te.tllllony. Thll

8 witn"fllI•• II.UU. ldolnt![y tl'l_".. lv". tor the reeord.

II z.eh ..l tn.'. /lIlut .t.te I'll. 0'" her 11_. 8dde•••, It

10 U\ey rep",•••nt IIom"on. or 01.11 00:9.n1;&4tloll, .nd who

11 thet pereon or oe98n11..tl0n 1 •.

12 Aftu- e.eh wH:nee. 1'14. te.tltilld. the Air

13 so.ed lIlerllbftn "'.y que.tion the vitne ••. Attllr the Air

14 80• .-d h•• hold oil' oppo'tunl ty to evk t.he witne••

l~ qU...t10Ili, I 11111 8110'" .ny Inter.l~d per.on or p.. .-ty

J(, to •• k the vl tnen qu.etlonl.

l? 'l'he queetiolll lIl.y be rei.ted to the telltllll<lny

III lult qIven by the lIitnen. A per.on who il 8Ikinq I

III qulltion doel not hive to be Illorn In, b!.It the penon

20 who il allklnq a que.Uoll canllOt turn Ole quelUoll Into

21 teltl.Jllony ot hill Or hlr ovn. You have .11 opportunity

22 to teltHy hter.

23 I'i@aye blvare, each Itlt_lIt you ...ke ...y be

24 lub~ect to ".l!o/IIinlt!on by mylea Or an Air Board

25 met'llber. IlIIIIldiateiy atter U1le hear1nq 11 ciolled

1 tonl'lht, if there 11 a quo~, the Air Bo.rd will hold

2 ItI c@9ular monthly ","etlnq.

3 Before we proceed vlth th" hear1nq, would all

.. people prelent plelle Ilqn the leplrate .ttendance

.5 .heet, 119n-In Iheet, whethar or not they wllh to

6 teltlfy, aDd, a'lllll, the w.y thll helrln'l 11 90ln'l to

1 operate, I will rlru. allOW the pcopon"ntl, the City

8 o~ Albuquerque, to proceed and any other Individual

9 vhO lII8y vlllh to t ....·tlfy on behelt ot the propo'ed

10 re9uI.tlon.

11 Atter that, any peraon or perty whO oppalel

12 the re9ulltlon lII8Y then teltlty, and .tter th.t, any

13 plr..on Intereltld Dr othervlle ",.y teltity.

14 I I!o/II the he.rlnq otttcer In thll c.le, 1 do

IS nOt Vote or lI..te ahy decUlolI on thh lI..ttlr. My role

H; 11 Itrlctly to conduct thll helrlnq. The other thln'l

17 I want to _ntion betore _ be91n I .. th"t I have been

18 In~o"""d by the elty th.t dtlr the concl\lIlon ot thlll

19 ha.rlnq, the record wIll r ....in Opt>lI ror two .eekl.

20 untll "ebruary 26th, 2001, ~:oo p.m., 10 "'ny

21 Individull or orq4nlzlUon Or otherwlle .1'10 1I1,hei to

22 l\lbI.lt ",dditlon.1 IVldenCI .lId/or teltlmony 1'111 an

23 "Mltlon.l tllO veeke and IIIUlt l\IbIIlt It to Mr. 1lII\1th

24 at the Clty ot Albuqller91W.

2~ Ok.y. The It.U ot the CIty or Albuquerque

pa.<;le ,

1 Env!rollm.. nlal H.. "lLh Dep.rtlllint may kwHj!n •

2 1 have beell r"quelted, Mr. smith, by ......

3 Sllverlll8n, bec:.ule he 1'141 • c ......ltJlIent In .bout lelll

t thin In hour, it you could do your pr....ent.tlon In 1~

5 minutel Or 10 10 III can g.. t to the relll ot Ole

6 teetllllOny, 11 U1lt poI..lbl.. ?

1 MA. SMI'I'H: I timed It at about U

8 mlnutel.

II TIlE ItEl\.RING OFFICER: Youe el'tir@

10 prell@l't.UOI'?

11 MR. SMITH' Yel.

12 MR. SILVZFtJUlN: At U lIIil'utelll

13 'I'HE IIEAIUIfG OfFICER: Well, i@t's do Ole

14 belrl lIe C.n. Thlll' II " publir:: hl"rlnll.

l~ All right. You ",ay beqin. On@ !recond.

H; "II. I(eetny?

17 KS. MARNY: Adell", lCearny viOl the cIty

11 attorneY'1 oruce. r did vant to lII8ke it clelr that

III bec.ule I hdve been Inoc:iat@d with the dr.fting of

20 thll re9ulitiOn th.t I'll not be ",dvllin9 the Air

21 Iklard, b!.It II you know, Mr. alone, frOlll Ole ordinal'cel

22 vhen you were" Baird. lIIelllber, ve cannot.. hive the

23 hearing vit.hout a quorUIII, but everyone who il a /I:l!fIIber

24 who choolel to conllder oI.1Id vote on that. .t a lIt:er

25 t 1m. will have to read the tranlcrlpt and the

I:'a'le I

1 eXhibit', 10 Mr. 511ve.<;mal' 1'1"1 to leav", If he wantl

2 to vote all thill, will have to ~ev1ev the rem.alnder or

3 the "ecord.

4 MR. 51 LVY.NtAIf: 1 undantand that, MI.

5 Hearny, but J can rflad the proposal tor lIIyeelt, wh.t T

6 cannot <So 11 hear the t..eltl.Jllony ot the general public,

1 and I'd r.ther spend my tilMt here 111tenln9 to IIhat

S the pllbllc 1'1.1 to gay rather thol.1l 1000000body raad "'" a

9 4~-page docUlll@nt that I can read on my ovn, eo maybe

10 wh.t 1 11119ht do II !l.ake a propo,.al that _ t..aka

11 te.timony from the pIlbllc Urllt and let Itdt _ke

12 thlir prellnt.tlon lallt.

13 1'15. KEAR"Y: J undereund th.t.

14 HR. SMITH: Foc the pIlrpo.e Dr the

15 hl.rln'l, I dO re"l It'l 111lport4.!\t to re.d It Into thl

16 rIcard, .nd takin'l teltllllony prIor to my teltllllDlIY

I? limply doel not lII8te any lenle.

18 MR. 5ILVI!:RMAIl: Thin J would lII8ke the

19 r"qIIelt that Ita~t lIIake thl prfl..ent.tloll In 20

20 mlnutel.

21 THE HEARING OFFICER: [reaUy c.n't

22 lImit any relev4.!\t telt1lll.ony. The problllll I nave vlth

23 th.t, 1'Ir. 51lvenllln, In t.lrneel, 11 th.t .t a pUbliC

24 hear1nq, there are people trom the pUblic who lilly .ant

25 to addrelll Ipecit1C concernl th.t thl elty 1,

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1 p~"I.nllnq. end I think then could h.. oil probJeIll down

2 th.. 11n" it Mr. SIrIlth And the ~Ily or lubuqu..rqu..••

J t •• tlll,ony~-

4 l'IJI. SfLV2.RHNf: Thet'. t1ne. Let'. 1lI0V"

toc..ecd.

6 THE HEAAflf10 OnrrCZR: Olr.ay. Mr. 3IrI1th,

7 you .... y proceed. PiN_., uh. your clqht hend end be

B vorn.

OJ MICHAEL D. !iI1lTH

10 aft!!c hevln'l be.n first duly 8110rn under oeth.

11 t".tiUed •• rollo".:

12 THE HEAAINIO OF"P'ICER: Mould you pl..es"

13 "tete your n&lll...

14 l'Ik. SHITH: Hy n""'" 1.. Micheel D. S/IllLh.

15 I"'" wlth the Clty of Ilolbl.lquec'lI.Ie IVr Qudlty

16 Division.

17 THI!. H£ARUIG DP'f'lC2R: pllilue proc••d.

18 l'IJI. SMITH: GOOd evenlnq. Me. 010n••

19 IIlflftbece of the board. My n_. aqAin, 11 M1.1r.e Sll.1th

20 with the tnvlrol\llltlntd HeAlth Depe.rtlMlnt. I lUll eh

21 .lnv!toMlentel h••lth Icl"ntllt rellpondble for

22 c••••n:hlnq end revldn<jJ dr qudlty rule ••nd

23 r.<jJuhtlon•.

24 I h.v. be.n wi th the d.pe.rtlll.nt for 1II0r. th.n

2~ 10 y••n lind work.d .. .In dr qu.Uty Inlpector,

1 perw.lt "rlt.r .nd .upervisor.

2 I h." b.cheior of qeoioqlc.1 .cl.ne.

J deqr... tra.. N H".lco St.te Unlver5l1ty lind h.v.

.. ..orlr.ed In re.oure. 1." enrorcGfn.nt tor 20 y....r••t the

reder.i, rt.te lind Ioc.l l"vei•.

£Hl£or.. I n.rt Illy tllltlJlony, I "ouid 11k.. to

7 .xpi.ln, tor th. ben.tit ot the n....r bo.rd ~.r••

9 10....... ot the r..quirllll.nU of the N.w Mexico Air Qu.11 ty

't control I\ct i ..port.nt to toniqht'. h••rinq.

10 The bl.lc duty o£ the 10c,,1 "ir Qu.Uty Bo.Ird

11 il to "pr.v.nl. .nd abAte lir pgUution." To thlt end,

12 the bOlrd i. r ..qulred to .dopt, pra..ulq.t., publllh

13 .lId rep"ll r"qul.tionl conlht.nt ..ith th. Air QuIUty

14 Control "et.

I~ wh.n condderinq n.w requl.tion. or

Hi ""'.n<1nl.ntl. th" bo.Ird IIIUlt t .. ke into ..ccount thl

17 "ch.rect.r .nd d"qr.e Qt injury to or int.rt.r.nce

18 ..lth h.Al!;h ....U ..re, vidblllty .nd prop.rty:" t ..lr..

19 In olCCOUnt "th. public int.rllt, Includ.!nq lociII Ind

20 .cona..lc v.lu. ot the roUtCel .nd lubj.ct. of Ilr

21 cont....ln.nt; ...nd, tin.II.,.. tollr.e I" olCCoU"t the

22 Mtech"lc.. 1 prllctlclbUlt.,. .. nd econo"ic r ..llo".bllln"ll

23 ot r.ducinq Qr dlmltl.. Unq Ilr cont&lllln.ntl frOll the

24 lource. involved .. nd pr"vioul ••peel.nc., with

2' equipne"t"'d /MIthocll IVIU&I:Ile to control the dr

1 cont4lll1n.nt~ In"'olv.d."

2 "1'0, ..h.n co".lderJnq • neW requl.tion e'

3 _t.ff, ... IllU.t. provlrj• .,.OU ..llh rubet.nti.l liIvld.nc.

4 to IUppott • n." uqul.tlon or 4tIlendlIloInt to .IIthr.,

5 l:h4t requir_nt, .nd to lII.et th. t"'lI.Iir_.nt ot th.

" Ne.. l'Iezlco "it Qu.lity Cootrol Act, ....n h.vinq Chi.

7 h".rlnq tonight to h."r t.nilll<lny frOll the .t.tt .nd

9 public conc.rnlnq thh requletion to provide you .. lUi

9 UI. Intom.tlon you nlled to !l.k••n Infonaed decl.lon,

10 In tonlqht'. h,..rinq, I ...111 lIIek. ev.ry

11 .ttort to .void u.inq .cron'flll9 ..ithOUt flr.t de~ininq

12 the t.ClIl. If I ,.hould u.e • ulna or phre.e th .. t you

IJ do not und.ret.nd, ple.lll. int.rrupt ........nd I ..Ill

14 "xpl.ln th" "Old O:r phr.I,.liI.

1.\0 1\,. required by th. N." Hn.tco "Ir Quellty

16 Cootrol I\c..... th. dlvlrlon murt provld. pUblic notlc.

17 of heu~lnq lit I ••,.t 30 d.. .,.. prior to h••rl.nq. To m...,t

19 thh requlr_nt, the dlvldon pubUsh.d notlc. ot

19 tonlqht·. he.dnq In Me .. Mexico St.. te Jteqleter on

20 Dec_ber 2nh, 2000, SteU Exhibit NUMber I, ..nd In

21 the "ibuquer'll.ll! Jourtl4i on Jenullr.,. 7th, 2001, St.rt

22 £lIhiblt NUIlIber 2.

23 In IIddition. th.. no tic. ot h...rinq .... ported

H In cl ty hdl IIr requlrR by Cll.,. ot "ibuquerque

2' Ordln.nce s..ctlon 2-6-1-4ICI (2Il.l. "110••, requlr.d

p.qe 11

I by the Mew Mellico "ir Qud1it.,. Control II.C:t, the

2 dlvillon "'died the notice ot he.rlnq to .111 penonlll

J "1'10 hlv. med. writt..n requ...t to rec.lv.. edv.nce

4 notlce ot he ..rinqs .nd to I!v.. r.,. comp.n.,. with. p..rrll1t

!l .nd reqi:rtut!on i ••u"d by th.. depdrtnent ..nd to

, contr.ctor.' issu.d lurtlc.. d1B'l:lJrb4nc. penaiu

7 puuu.nt to 20.11.20, "",,C IIlrborn. pdrtlcui.t.e

I "'Itt.r. Thh mdllnq lht 11" Stdt S.hibit Mumber 3.

'I 1\11 lett..rl eent _r. pa.tdlt.d Jlnu.ry 10th

iO or Uth, 2001. Stdt boU.v... we h.v. IMIt .nd

11 •• c ..eded th. pub11e notic. requir.lII.nu tor thi.

U he.rinQ. "e I r ••ult ot thi. 1I0Ue.., the d.,.pe.rOllant

13 h•• received ••v.n "ritt.n CGllllllentl or r ..qu••te to

14 tntU.,.. Th.e....r. "" .. rlr...d ... St.tt Exhibit. Ii'Ulllbeu ,

U thrQuqh 'I.

I' Stet:t Ellhiblt IiIU111b.r 10 II .. cop.,. ot Qur

17 currellt C8QuI.. tion. Stoltt Ellhibit MUMber 11 II. copy

11 ot th.. propo••d requl.tlon with ""Inor .dltorUI

19 ch.nq•• I114d. on Jolnu.r.,. 18th, 2001, with the propa••d

20 floor .._ndment. w...111'1 to Introduce tonlqht. I will

21 be ret.rrlnq to thll "lIhlblt durlnq Illy t.nl""on.,..

22 sutf Ell:hlbit NUIIIb.r 12 I•• copy ot my

23 teitilllony tor th. r..cord. F"lndl.,., Stdt Exhibit

24 NUIIIbo:rv 14 4nd I~ ..re f"e comparllon t.bl.1 I ..111

2' ret..r to I.ter In Illy uvt1Jrlony.

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1 I'lc. Hear!nq attieer, at tllil time I lIOuld

2 l1k& to Lnt-roduce t.hl.1 " ..nibit" into the reeord.

] TH.E IIEMtHG OFFICER: Stdf 8llhibiu 1

4 throuqh 14 are hereby .dIo.ltUd into th" rlcord.

5 MR. SMITH: My tenllllony toniqht 18 to

, laplaill lh" chlnq•• II. propo.. to 20.1.2 HHAC perJIIlt

7 relU, th" purpo"e ot the rOle requlat1on, ho. the

e p<!rIIIlt tee requiation ,,111 be Illlpl ....ent.d and 8"plain

9 the rational. for dle propo••d ~.e Ichedul1n'J.

JO Folloving my te,tlllllOny, Hr. ""'leI Hartln...z,

11 dlv1910n /Ilan4qar, will dl"eonl 1.IU.I lp8clf!c to the

12 dJvlllon'" budqet. Why do ve have fee requlatlon 11'1

13 the tint place?

14 AI raqulred by KI.. HaIlce Air Qual11:.y Control

l!o Act, 14 2-1 NM5A. and the Joint AIr QU4Uty Control

16 Board ordinancel. tne board 11 requJred to eitaollih a

11 Ichedllil of conltrllctlon fe.1 lulflclent lO cover the

18 realonabl.. co"t of rlvllwlng ...nd actIng upon any

19 applIcation ~or a pel:lllit. Inoillding the call.I of

20 Impl_ntlnq and "nforclng I:.hl t.C1ll1 of any pell'lllt,

21 ellcludlnq the COIl. ot any eOllrt cOlte or oth.r cnlt

22 a""oclatotd ..iUl an ..ntorc_.nt actIon.

23 In addItIon. Ull board ie requIred to

24 ""tabU"h a Ichedllie of _il"lon f ...1 conillt.nt WIUl

25 thl provl"lonl ot S.ctlon .50 lBl III ot: ch. ted.ral

1 Cl ....n AIr Act that requlrel any aIr cont_inant"

2 "ourc. that ..mil:.l 100 ton" or mor. per year or any

J regulat..d aIr polllll:.ant or 10 toni per year or any

4 linqle haiardoul aIr polluta"t or 25 tona per yelr or:

cQlll!:>lned halarC10ul lir polll1l:.antl. to pay annual

6 elIlil"lon teel IlItticlenl to cover the direct and

1 IndIrect COll.I ot a leder...lly approved 1II...:)or 10llrce

8 peC1llil:.tlng progr4nl.

9 Il1th their requlltlon, the dlvillon 11

10 eltlblllhlng new elelllentl tor a /111 nor 10urCI operating

11 pel:lll1.t progr4lll requirIng Ui lOUl"cel WIth a permlt or

12 reqlltration with the dlvilion to pay annllU lII'I.iUlon

13 reel lurticlent to cover th. dIrect and IndIrect COll.I

14 ot ongoIng Inlpectlon and cOlllpli4llce activitiel.

1.5 Thll regulation alia Inablllh.1 fie I to

16 cover the dIrect and IndIrect COll.I at ...drainilterlng

11 lInd entorcinq the albeltol oI.I\d du.lt control proqr4nl1

18 nqulnd by bo...rd nquiation.

19 At thll tillli. pleue reter to StAft Ellhlblt

20 HwUI.r 11. the pcopoled t•• re'l'llation with floor

21 _Indlllenti.

22 Slnc.. thl1 II a n.w r"""ulatlon oI.I\d Itaft: Ill'

23 propolinq to repeal the curr..nt re'l'll... tlon, I'1lI qoinq

24 to dl"cull ehe III&jor 11el1\ent" ot the propoled

2) r ..gulatlon and propoled touc _n<\llUllntl.

1 nrst, page I, line B, S..ction 20.11.2.2

2 ollllinll the "ourc... th...t will be .. U.ct..d by th!lI

J r"gulation. Th.. only major chang.. to this " ..ction

4 frOltl thl current r.qul... tion 111 the requlr8/llent ch...t

5 perlonl r ..qu.... tlng " $'Ilrf"",.. dl"turbanc" pooulIlt

6 pllrsllant to 20.11.20 NMAC, aIrborne particulate

1 m... tter, "hlU be requIred to pay a flUng and

8 In"p.ction fee to cov"r the dlr.ct and Indlr"""t co"tlt

9 of adminllt.erinq and entorclnq thl dun control

10 proqralll, ..hlch WIll be dl"culled later In my

11 tel timony.

12 Faq" 2, lin.. 11. sactlon 20.11.2 6.

13 ob1lctivll. nutilnl" thl objectIve of the reqlliation

14 ...nd Itale" a "tatOJtory requirement for ,,"tablllh:lng

15 pernllt r..el.

16 Starting on pag.. 3, lIn.. I, !I..cdon

1"1 20.11.2.1, d..finltionll, lilt. Ule d.. tln1tlon51 that ..111

18 b.. uled In thh part. The dividon I" addIng leveral

1') new detinltlnnl that 11111 be 1I1t..d to Illlplellent the r ....

20 proqr&lll.

21 Th.. tint n..w detlnltion 11 found On p.lIqe J,

22 lln.. 21, ~pol.ntlal to _It,~ ..hlch detlnel the method

23 thl divilion 1I""e to det"r1IIln" th" lource'l potential

24 elllllvIonl. Thll detlnltlon hal been crafted to be

25 Ilmllar to the federal defInItIon for regUlatory

pag.. 13

I coniliteney. Thi! detlnltlon 10111 benetlt lourc..1

2 Iinc.. It t ..k .. In ..ccount contraIl that are integral

] to th.. productIon proce .....

, At thi" tIm.. , It.. tr "ould 11k. to pr..I.nt the

5 tollollinq tioor 4IflenQ/l\enti to add leveral new

6 detlnltlonl to thll lectlon.

1 The Urll:. 1'1." detln1tlon lion page 4, line

l, ~quallt1ad .m.ali bUlln....... " ..hlch Ihall lIIaan "

') b\jlln."" that ha" 100 or h!w.r empioye.. ': il a IlIIall

10 bulinlU conClrn AI deUned by the tldlrU SIIl411

11 BUlin.... Actl do .." not _It raore th...n 5C1 toni per ylar

12 of any reglll"ted poiiut"nt or 15 toni per year at ... 11

13 regll1.... ted aIr pollutantl; and I" not a _jor lourc. of

14 halardo\ll aIr pollulol.l\tl.

15 Thlc deUnltlon i. conilltint WIth the 1IIW11

16 bUline .. Itatlonary lourc. technlc"l and envicolllll.ntal

11 cOlllpUanc...llllt.nca proqram approved by the board on

18 October 1, 1992. Thl BLatt l!l propadnq that

]9 qll41IU"d 111I411 budn.. ""," l114y be eUgibie for reducad

20 pemlt lInd ellllIBlon f ..e_ requIred by thil part.

21 The ~econd n..w d ..tlnltlon ..I wllh t.o prop0le

22 1_ On paqa 4, lIne 22, ~It.. t. aIr tOJO:ic r ..vI..... " whIch

2l sh411. lIIl!.n .. c"""-by-cale peCltllt appIlcltlon rev Ie.. of

H the potentIal eltliaiiolli of air tOJO:1.nl lI.tAd In .tate

25 r ..qlliation 20 2.12 NMAC, SUb!lection IV. Thll

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1 dlll1nition hal be... add..d 110 the dl\/hloll can

2 elubllih lin .pptoprl<1te t ..vl." ree lor toxic: 41t

) pollutantl.

4 Dependinq on the 80ure,'. potential to _it II

5 toal" dr pollutant, II pet1ll1t revie.. bec:~. lI\CIU

, cOlIIpllC:4ted <lnd ""I.)' require additional cu".arch lind

"1 de dhperelo/\ lIIodflUnq: Increulnq etllU tl111e lind

9 etrort, juiltltyLnq lh.. 4ddltlond fee.

9 The iall detlnltlon the divl,.loll vl...hel to

10 add t. "lItlltlonll..y louree with de III1nllll.ulI _111101'11,"

11 which ",eel'll II louree dth II potential to _It lell

12 than tlv. tOll. per y.... ot IIny ..equl.ted .lr

13 pollutant, excLudlnq h4terdo\lll air pollutd.J\tl; lell!

14 then two toni per ye... or IIny hll:rerdoUI .1r pollutd.J\t;

l~ tille ton!l or I••• ot IIny cOIDtIlnatlon of hllrllrdoull 1I1r

Hi pollutllllll; O~ 20 poon:.nt. ot any le..e~ th~eshold pe~

1'/ y.ar fo~ • dnqle h.I.~d.oua d~ pollut.nt est.bUahed

18 by lhe Bnvl~onnentd P~ot.ctlon Agsncy by ~ule.

19 Thh deUnltlon ,nt<lblhhn the sllll ..lon

20 U ...lt the dlvldon ..111 use to det.r!!llne ths

21 .ppllc.biUty ot • eou~c:e in p.ylnq poo~rdt o~ _lulon

22 teea. Thl. deUnlt10n 14 not Intended to .JlIllllpt

23 1I0u~csa trOll thig ~.qulet1on or .ny other bo.rd

24 ~.qul.llon. current and tUlure requl.tlone l114y

2!> requl~" aourc"a th.t ...."t lIIlnllll~ 11lll1ta eatabUahed

1 by thh deUnltion to obte1n pe .....lt••nd p4yee

2 erll1 ..10n leel, >!uch 41 dry cle.nerl .nd other

3 h.z.rdoul pollut.nt lourcel th.t .r.. Ip..c:1tlc41Iy

4 ....qu1.ted.

5 St.~tlnq on pd.qe 5, line 21, gectlon

6 20.11.2.1 ..r .. tn.. qener.l provhlon. ror thll

1 requl.tlon. A m.,or chanqe trorr. the curr.n~

II ....qul.tion 14 the r.quir8lll<lnt to pay ell teu .t the

9 time ot .ppl1c<ltlon.

10 Currently, Itatt l/\voic..1 the 4ppllc.nt. tor

11 .ny tee. due .tter the .ppllc<ltlon il proce.lgod. By

12 co11ecti/\q feee .t the tlllle ot .pplic.tion, not only

13 is the dlvhion nduc!nq the .dnl1nhtt..Uve burden on

14 the Itaft, b\lt Itre&lllUn"lI the ..view peocel!! by

15 havlnq the cOlllplete .-pplicltion p.okaqe lutnitted to

16 the divillon tor revle...

l? 1'111 pelTllit reel w11L be ~equlred to be lent

IB or deiivered direetly to the ~nvl~oMl.nt.l He.lth

19 Dep.rll!lent'l tln.nce I ..ctio/\ prior to the .ppUc.tlon

2et belnq lub!llltted to ~he dlllIdon.

21 Thia procelle ..iii IIn.ure ...11 feea are

22 d.pol1t.d Into the correct aIr qu.llty aCCountl.

23 Sublection B reqult"lI .11 10urceR to pd.y .n ul1\u...l

24 erllllll10n tee baled on the .. ource'e potentl.1 to IIIlllt.

2~ Sourc•• vhhlnq to reduce th..ir potellt141 to

P4qe 17

Paqe 111

I _It. In)' do 1I0 th~ouqh the p..-ov1a10na ot IIMC,

2 authorlty to eon.!:~uct. IUIn...al perr'llit tee ...U1 <11 ..0

J be lent direc!:ly to the dep.ctlllillht'l tin.nce ••ctlon,

a Thl<l ...ctlo" .lao r.qu.1r.. a that any peraon

!I lIutllllttlnq.n .pp11c.tlon tor. aurlace dilturb.nc.

6 peoll1t or not1~ylnq the deperUII.nt of thO' r"lIIOv.l or

7 aabeetoa-cont41nll,q lII4"..rlal, pur~u.nt to 20.11.64

8' NMIIC, _h.lon st..nd.rd. fOI: h"':lardoua aIr pollutant.,

9 ror lItatlol,ary !lourc.a IIh.il .1ao be requIred to p.y

10 .11 teo a due .t the tllll. ot .ppHcetlon.

11 To "nlu~" campI i.ne. wIth this p.~t,

12 suba.ctlon G, paqe '. Une 22, .tatea that nO aouree

13 ..Ul be In cOlllpllane....lth Lt~ pe .....lt unleu all

14 applicable reell .re p.ld aa requIred by thh pa~t..

15 As p.~l or .n In_pec"lon or .nnual cOlllp11.nce

l' lItat_ent, 10ure." muSt derl\onstrate that all

l? appllcablll pelTlllr. fen hev. been paid.

18 St.artl/\q on paqe 7, line 5, SectIon

19 20.11.2.12 authority to COllltruct pe!lllit reel I tee

20 e<llcuiatlonll .nd proc.dur... delcrlbel the lII.ethod>! and

21 proc:edurel used to det.rrllln.. the pemLit tee requIred

22 to procela an alithodly-to-conltC\lct permIt

23 appUcatlon.

24 The dlvhlon Intendl to .t<lY WIth 4n

25 EllILbulon b••ed tee Ichedule In d..l..elTllLnlnq perllll~

1 teee, th.t h, the IIlore you pot"nt.laUy pollute, the

2 hlqher the tee.

3 When d.telTll.1nlnq the .ppU".tlon tee, th"

4 app1Lc4nt lIIUlt det.lTIl1n. ~h. pO~./ltl.l to _It ot 411

requl.ted te. poUut.ntl .nd O!lII.lado~l, Thl_

6 pro"..dure, ~lonq wIth the Incr.and .ppUc.tlon teeR,

7 qener.Uy wUl IIeall hiqher .wUe.tlon ~eel to the

8 awUC4J\L

9 'L'he d.1vi,ion believe I thele incr....ed teee

10 are jUltifled Rince the fee not o/\ly pay. tor the

li pelTllil revie.. proc:ell, but include. initl.l balellne

12 inlpectlonl, perrorlll.nce teetinq ~.vl..., EPA reportlnq

13 .nd the 10urCe'lI 4nnuai 8IIlilll1on tee U/ltU the n.llt

14 Invoic. eycl•.

15 In .ddltion to ~h. _luion-baled tee ••

16 10urCei that "u.t cOlllPly ..lth Ced.r.l pertolTll.nce

11 It.ndard. or ....jor .ource r..vle.. proqr&llli lIh.U be

18 r.qulred to pey aD .ddiUonal tee, dependlnq on the

19 red"rd proqr4/ll belnq rllviewed.

20 Fllderal proqrame Include neW aou!:"ce

21 p<>rrOrlll4nCe atand.d.~d", ha:lardoua aIr pollut4J\t.

22 It.nd.~dl lind feder.l lIIajor 10urce ~evtev proq~&lIIlI

23 luch a. prevention of liqniUcant de~erlo~.tion,

H nonattalnlllent a~ea per",lttlnq and acId r.io.

25 Feu to 1II0dUy 4/\ e.r..1ltlnq perllllt w111 alao

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MR. 51LY[;IU'lA": It ..... included 1ft "holt

15 you 1114de out, thouqh.

16 MR. SMITH: 1'111 sorry, T did have

17 probl...... with the capler today. and I can m<lke cople,

19 If you wOllld 11kll to havI that. I'll. 01011. h... the

19 oUlci..l l'lcord and if you "ould m.. ke lure it'l In

20 th.t.

21 THE IfBARING OtFICER: That's correct. I

22 jut[: ....nt to lII4ke lure you are l'eterrlng to yoUl' noor

23 ....hlbl~ no".

1 hoi .",hllon bal.d in dlltermlnlnq it tne llIoattle.tion

l 1! "._10I DC minor "'odificatiOn_ that lrlqqllr 4 to!'dec41

3 n~1/1e .. preqr...... or U~'flIII. an aIr to.te rllvlew "ill p.&r

4 the ad<11tt.onal federal pro9IMI and <lit LOllie revi.w

!I Ill••, but only tor the emll1.10ft unit subject to the

Ei requirement.

, [>49- " line 3, p4raqraph 7. outline••n

8 .I."",ph of .ft l ••lon-b,....d fee ..ith 4n .utdttle""t

Ii tVdllle! peoqr toeview file added.

\0 HR. 91 LVZRMJil..: £.CUIIi me, Mr. 9IIllth, my

11 p.l.ckaqe doe en' t hav., paqe 8.

12 1015. aA.!lS!:TT: I don't think ant ~t the

13 packetl do.

MR. SILVEIU'lAN' [t ..ould be p4qe 1 in

THE HEARING OITICI:R' I:xcuse lIIe. Is

I MR. SMITH: Th.. t pen.lcul.r paqll 8 or 9

2 ma.r be paged. Httle bit ditterent, bUt the ,_

1 materi.l il ther.,.

21 th.t in Exhibit III

22 MR. SMIrH: Th4t,'S' in Elhlblt 11.

23 THI! HEARING OIFFTCE.R, Ok.y.

24 MR. SMITH: An.d you .re on p.qe 1.

:n .r..n't. yOu?

"

what was lent. out, •• boIat .,I t can tell.

6 THE IIf.AAING OtttCER: Betore you

7 proceed, Mr. SIIIi th, I )UI t ...n t to St. te in the record

9 th.t since the beginnitlq of your teat1mony, t"110

9 additional all' qU411ty men\ben, Or. Steve 1'11011 and

10 MI. Jelnn.. B.II,ett, .rrived and Ire 4ttendln9.

11 Piea •• procead.

12 111l.. SMITH: Thank you. At thIs tl"",

13 .t.t~ WOUld llke to otter tn" tollowlnq tioor

14 ..mend/llen.t,., 4nd It'l no~ cn pege B.

I!I 8ackln9 LJp to P4ge 1, 11ne 6, sectIon

16 20.11.12, Sub A, delete th" WOl'd "r.uerved" and .dd

I" "Ioul'cel applylng ror a 'lenel'.l permIt pUl'.!Iulnt to

18 20.11.41 NMAC, authority to COMHl'uct, ,.hall poly the

19 appllclble f"e found In 9LJblectlon I.B ot thIs p.rt.-

HR. SMITH: Ri'lht.

THE. H!JYlINC OFFICER: Okay. WhIch b

"

" P.ge 21

HR. SMITH: I am talkIftq .bout E"hlbit

1 yOUl'--

2 MIL 9MIT"~ Well, I .IUlt reterenced pl'le

3 B, Une J, p.ra9r.ph 1 ot th" re'lulAtion.

4 TIfE HBARING OFFICU: RI9ht. I'm tryIn9

!I to look at It. Are YO\l taIkln9 abeut ExhIbIt 10 or

6 Elhlblt II, r.henl

,

8 11.

9 TH.!. HEAJUIIG OtFICER: Okay. r'm lorry,

10 MIke, ..hat paqe nurr.bllr are you Oil aqaInl

11 HR. 51LYl.1lJ'INl~ EI9ht.

12 HR. SMITH: Page It. 11fte 3, para9r.ph 1.

13 TKE HEAJU)lG OtFICBR: I'.'le B II not In

14 the eJl.hIbit.

U HR. !lH.ITH: That', prob4bly why no ofte

16 has It.

11 rHE HBARIIIC O",ICER~ It you c .... hAve

lit on.e or yOUl' et.It ~rl lIIake a copy prior to the

19 concl\llion ot YO\lr teltiraollY. ao "e fteed to put It

20 Into the r ..cord, .nd, .110, make lure the Al r B04rd

21 h.l. copy.

22 HR. SMITH: 1 ..111.

23 THE. HEAJUWG OITICER: Ok4Y.

24 DR. MULLOY: 1 have. copy ot paqe 8

2!1 [rom wh.t you hold I.nt \II out prIor to th1e lIIII..tinq.

1 THE HEAAlMG OtFICE.R: Yu, ,1r.

2 MR. SlLVEIU'lAW: Repe.r th4t onll 1I0re

3 time, plea,'!'.

4 HR. SMITH: "Sources applylft'l for.

!I 'leller.. 1 plICJlllt pUrlu.nt to 20.11.41 IlMAC, .uthodty to

6 construct. IIft.ll PlY the apPUc.bIe tee In SIICtlOft II

1 of thl1 part.

"The dIvIs-Ion iftt.llde to """end 20.11.41 NHAC,

9 authorlty to con"truct, to .lIow 'len..r.l ~rlllitl to boI

10 1I1It.bHshed lol' specifIC source categor1el,

11 elillIn.lltlng the need tor ca".-by-ca"e 4Ir qualIty

12 revIew, 1I11~dltlng the perrlllt-llluIn9 pr~celll."

13 Now I .m qoin9 to be rlllerrln9 to pege 8

14 .q.In. If I CAn go .head .nd revIe"ll, read th.t, .nd,

1!1 then, ..e call relll' I.ter back to the correct p.'le.

16 At the ..nd or sectlon 20.11 2.12, p.qe B,

11 llne 19, w" wllh to .dd :i!ublectlon D4e lOIIowlI:

lB "QU4Iified 11II1ll! bUIIneliel Ihall p ..y one-halt of the

19 c.1cuI.t..d c.S'e~by-c.lle aIr qu.1Ity revIew feeg prior

20 to adding 4ny r..d..r.l rev11" t ...." or ,tllte to"ic

21 revIew teel.-

22 Qu4Uried 1.....11 bYllnll, " ..ork:1l1g t.hr~u9h

23 the diviIIon'" ,111411 bu"Ine,s Ilt.nce progl'..... will

24 only PIlY h4lf ot the cue-by-c4Ie alr qu.Uty revIe"

2!1 calculllt"d prior to 4ddIn'l additIonll1 r .....

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I 1'he 111111111 001111111" would It-ill be E"1II.ponB1ble

2 ~or p4ylnq for ""Y federal proqran. .nd air toxic

3 review t.... Thl. pro",11l1on II not. applicable to

4 lour"....pplyinq tor qeneu.l plllnlllt. I'ln<:111 t.he colt. ot

the p<!'r1IIlt h•• alre.dy bellln reduoed.

J r8qul..t1on, tla.lId on the aveuq_ IIlJ111ber ot p8r11l1t

8 application.. received, 1:.0 COUIII"t ..bout. $111,000 ptIc

9 y.... in "PIll 1".. tlon fe ••.

10 Und... tile current requietLon, Will havill

11 invoiced n,!>oo tor the p.ut y.ar. Thill dlv1eion

12 1II1t1_UII It CDIU approd_ULy S2!~.COO p4c year to

13 1lI1nlm411y fund III ne'" lourCIII rlllvi",.. progu,,,,. chili

14 n.,...Lnder of UlIII tundlnq "OIIlIII' tCOlll annuaL _llllion

l~ tlllell. federal 'Ir.nt ",oney and clt.y general fundi.

16 Start.lnq on p4q. I. 11ne 22, Section

11 20.11.213, ..nnu.. l ....l."lon ' ••1. tee calculatlon. and

18 proc~dur.1 d.lcrlbel the "'.thodl and proc:edUUI lor

111 Involclnq and calcul.tlng .nnu.l _llilon ~e... ...11

20 1nvolclnq will be done Dy the CIty o~ "'ltJugll.rque with

21 .nnual lee" lent to tn. d.partment'l llnance ••ctlon

22 lor depollt.

23 .... r.qulred by law. all Ie•• wll1 btl

24 depoeited Into th" CIty 01 "'lbuquerque per1lllU proqr.....

2!> lund. ...11 a"nud -.lnlon leel will be det.el1ll1ned

1 ba.ed all th" louree·. po.-entlal to ....it. t.klng Into

2 .ceount any pet"1ll1tl and 9r(>-app.-oved requlatory

3 lllflltl.

, .'Iourc.1 '11th .-eqlltr.tlonl lilued pur,u.nt to

5 20.11.40 JnlU\.C. 10U.-C. reqllt.-atlon, w111 be r.vl.....ed

, on a edle-by-ca"e ..ll!, .nd 11 pemlittinq 11

1 .-equlr"d. 1..1'1. dlvlliofl ....111 peIllllt th.lle louree" .t no

B ch.rq•.

II T~.e dlvll!lon wIll be p.-opollng to repeal

10 20.11.40 NMAC, louree reqlltr... tlon. and eltablllh a

11 fed.u.-ally enforceable operatlnq penll.1t proqr..... tor .II

12 applle.bl••oureel.

13 Starr ....111 .110 be propollnq ..verd 1100'-

14 dJ..uldrientl In .'I..etlon 18, e'-eatinq annu.l emi.llon

I!> Ieee tor ,peeille louree e&teqorle. that cu.-rently

16 h.ve r.qllt'-.Uonl In lleu Of .uthorlty-to-eonltruct

11 pe .....itl.

18 "'lUlu.l emluloll feee ....111 btl u.ed pr1Jll.rlly

1'1 to Illfld eOlllpUance .nd Inlpectlon a"t1ll1tl.1 .-.qulred

20 by the .tate Alr Quallty Control /lct. the jolnt Mr

21 Quallty Cont.-ol !loard ordlnaneel .nd boa'-d

22 r~qulatlolll.

23 In .ddltlon. the .lUlual ..ull1on le.1 .. 111

24 alia fund the 1111.11 bu.loels asl1.t.flc. p.-oqrarll.

25 Under the propo.ed requlatlon, the dlv1l10n e"t1Altel

Paqe 2!>

P.q. 26

1 It wIll collect.•bout Sl!>6,B!>O per yeat 1ft. annual

2 .Illlilion r.. ,,~.

3 The divllion ..Jltimate. It t ...kee ...pptoa1Jllately

4 S819.000 to Ifllnl",ally fund the In,pectlon and

cOltlpl1ance in ""'.11 bUllnen ....l.t.nce .ctlvitlel

, "lthln the d1ll1fl'10n. FUlldl trolll .Ilnual erIIlnloll lees

1 '1111 aha be u.ed for sutt tulnlJlq r"qulatory

B devalopllsnt .nd feder.. l e",llllon Inv.ntory r.portlnq

II .. nd other .ctlvltl•• requlred by .'Iect10n !>02 01 th.

10 feder'll clean "'lr "'ct. Remdnder Of the fundlnq CClllleI

11 IrDlll tederal gr.nt PIIOney .nd city 'len.ral fundi.

12 On.. m.j('lr ch.nge ltdI la propo"lnq 11 to

13 r .....ove the provlilion In the current requiarlon to

14 allOW lource" to pay annual eml".10n teel b....ed on

15 actual _11. Ion •.

I' Thll prov1l10fl 111 found Ifl sectlon 11.2 4.r,

11 th.t re.d. "An .nnual ....l.lllon Inventory ...y be

18 Bubnlltt..d for revlewl by the dep.rtment ror t.he

19 purpo•• or .nnual ~lIe .djuIUllent. ThIll Ihall De

20 r••tricted to sourcel '11th eBtabllsh.d pentllt

21 .llowable _1 ••10n r.tel or lourc•• whIch h.ve

22 sUbmItt.d a timely penll1t applicatIon purluant to part

23 42, .'Ie<::t1on 1.2.2 ..... 2.

24 "The e",lonlon. Invefltorlell .hal1 be

2!"> eubllitted to the deparUllent by no lat.r th.n J.nuary

L 1, 19111 and by "'prll 1 each ye.r therearter ror fevlew

2 c;on'ld"raUon lor every y..ar an .djusUllent. 11 lought.

3 1I1thln 30 dayl of receipt. the department W111 DIll

4 t;he .OU'-ce ror the r.vi.w punu.nt to Table 1 of thll

!> p.rt.

6 '"Any .djustmentl to the lourc". p.11Il1tt.d or

1 othervh•••t.blllh.d em11,,10n r.....1'1.11 be

8 Incorporated .nd adjult.d .nd bIlled III .cco.-dance

II wIth the blll1nq IChedul. provlslonl In thh" p.rt."

10 IIhlle rhh p.-ovl.lon tlenetitl 10u'-c.1 ... lth

1\ larqe allow.ble ern.Jlllonl .nd on the gurfd.ee appear.

12 to encouraqe emllglon .-.ductlon•• th.l. loureel .tl1.itJ h.ve the rl'lht to pollute at thelr p......ltted level" at

14 .ny tinle.

1!l The dlv1ll10n Itronqly .upport.....inlon

I' reductlon through pentllt .nd by .-emovlnq the .blllty

11 for louree. to ply on th..lr .ctu.l ....l.elolll w111

l' ancour.qe lourcel to truly reduce th.lr ....hs1on

111 throuqh leder.lly .nlot"Ce.ble p~ .....lt condltloll•. Th.

20 dlvL,lon .-ecelved three wrItten COlfllllentl conc;ernlnq

21 the renov.l of the e",lnlon inventory provlslon Irom

22 the D.poIrUllent of En• .-qy, GIIneral 1'11111 and PNM.

23 Both the Dep..rtlllent 01 Ene.-gy and Cenar.l

24 JIII..11,. belleve th.t by relllovlnq tile prov1l10n to poly on

2!> .c-tual ellll•• 10ne ..111 create a d.111ncentllle ro.-

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1 vcllJnury poll~tton nduct.lonlil.

:z General Mill. IItdt h:hlbJ.t. IIlwrtber I> "Uted

) In t.helr lllttllr [.1141. -The propelled ayllt.. of feel

4 cre ....., II ,nelncentlve to 1111n1",11 • ..11" _18I1lon.

5 bee.u•• t.he fetll I. be.eel 011 pOlential IoIOI:JIt. ca.e

I> actlvll1811 and eU'ectiY.ly d1".110"'1 pollution

7 prevention activit!•• rrOlll CfI.llckly ncovO!rJnQ COlt

8 eevll1QI 4""ocl.llld ..1t.h _1:1118'1011 te...eductlcn."

,. The DvperUllenl of Illnerqy will lIhe te.llfy

10 the current. prevl.len encourage I pollutlon prevenlion.

12 previllo" will dhcDuraq_ pol1ution pnlvenllon and h

13 propollnq 1n the ( ..e .tructUI"e II pollution preventlon

14 lIIo<l1fl,,<l.llon at nO ch..r9" to encouraqe .ourees to

15 .-educe their _11.10111 throuqh t.d.rally entorce..ble

16 pollution preventIon teChlllque~ or proce.l.

17 Pollutlon prevent 1011 lIIeelle the r.ductloll or

18 oth.. r prectlc... th.t reduce or .llmln..te the cre.tlon

19 or pollut..nts throuqh lllcre.ee<l ..ttlclellcle••nd the

20 use ot r.w _terials, ellerqy. w.rer or other re.ources

21 or prot"ctlon ot netur.. l r.sourcet by con.erv..tlon.

22 50urce reductIon Include~ eny prectlc. whlch

23 reduce. the 4IIlOunt 01 eny h •••rdou ••ub.t..nce or

24 pollutent prIor to recycllnQ or tr.... lJIl.nt, Inc1udinq

25 equlplll..nt or tecl'lnoloqy IIIOdltlcetlon.. , proceu

u The o..panJllltllt <llI...q ...... that r8lllovlnq the

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l. etter T.he nOllOc.. tion is receIved. incre.ulng th..

2 ..w.lni.tt.tlvfo burd..n On tho. st..rt by requlrinq hell

3 at tne tllll8 ot .ppUCdtl.on.

, The In,pector will be free at this

!> ..dllllnl.sf.,r"f.,ive burd.n .nd .pend lI\Qr.. tllll. In the tleld

6 conducting inlpecUonll.

1 Divillion .. 'tllllolte. It t.k.s .ppro~llll"L.. ly

8 S84.aOO annu..lly to mlnl/1\4lly (und thh proqr&l'l e.nd

9 eltpecti" to coliect "pproltilll.tely $63. 000 • y ...r In

]0 feel b..l.d on .v..r.9" nUlllboor of notlfl.cationl

11 rllc.. lved. The rem.lnder at ttle funding Comel trOlll

12 feder.l 9rllllt 1II0ney .. nd city qen..ral tundll.

13 P"ge 11, liM 8. Section 20.1I.2.a, fUing

14 .nd in~pection I ••• [or I:urt.. c. dl.turbance poorrdt~;

15 to.e c ..lcul.tion~ .nd procO!dure!ll de.c!"ibftl ttle lII8tnodl

16 and p-roclldurel: in c.lcul.tIng tll1nq .nd inspecllon

11 te... [or lurl..CII disturb..nce penaltl ll.ued purlu.nt

19 to 20.11.20 MMAC airborne pertlculate /l\4tt.r.

I" c:urr..ntly. th.. dlvt.olon dOli. not ch.rlOe lor the Ie

20 pe""ltll ..nd 11 propolling to charge .. per .cre fee to

21 cov.r the pr09r.1II COlt to Inspector".

22 The du.t cOlltrol progr.lIl ie en Illlport.nt p..rt

23 at the pel:tlcul.. te ",et.ter SIP elld lIIu,t be .d.qu.te1y

24 funded. For 1,.9,. ..nd the tint ql.l..rt.r at 2000.

2!> 1II0nitor' in Bel:nall110 county eltc"ed..d the 4Jlnual

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I 1ll0dlfIc.tlonl. relono.ol.tlon or rllde~19n ot product...

2 ~ub~r.Jtutlon of r." m..t.rl.1, e.nd improvefl.ellt In

J houlekeepJnQ. lIIelnten.nc•• tr.. lnln9 end Invelltory

4 conteol.

5 Pollution prevention tech.nlquel or pret=tlcee

6 do not Include ..dd-on ..Ir pol tutiDJ'l conteol. Uled to

1 illllit .1r .... i~elon or emhelon reductlon~ be sed on

8 d.creelled production nlled~.

9 PliJM, 111. It. lettllr. Steft Exhiblt HUlllber 7,

10 un<1llrlt.nd. th.t _l..ion l'... c ..n be ellduced throu9h

It peno.lt lIIOdltlcetlon, but chao.... not to 1II01:I.Uy b ••ed

12 on Itll buelne •• nlledl, whlch 1. conlll.tent ..lth th.

13 dlvldon·. prop"".. l t.het .ource. pay 011 ..h.t they ere

14 .. l1o..ed to ealt by peno.lt.

U P..q.. 9. Une 21. Section 20.11.2.14, tiUI'l9

16 ",n<l In.pectlon leell for t.he relllOvel ot eequl.ted

11 e.belll::O~-cont..lnlnq /lIAterlel; til. c ..1culetlon...nd

18 proce<lure. descrlbe. the method. 4Ild procedurel u.ed

19 to c ..lculate tiUn9 .Ild In.pection he~ foe the

20 remov.. l ot eeguleted ••be.to.-cont..lnlnq m.terlel.

21 The .ectlon r_ein. unehenqed tram thll

22 ..ltllttlnq eeql.llrelll8ntsr hov.vee. es r.quleed·by th.

23 9"nerel peovielonl or thll part••11 fell' muet bo;I peld

24 .. t th. tiIY ot eppllc.tlon.

2!> Currently, U\e in.p.ctor. Invoice the "ource'

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1 n.. tionel 4lIIbient elr qu.lity .tenden! for perticul.. te

2 ",..tter.

3 It" vltel th.. t we not contlnu. U\I~ tr..nd

4 ..nd t.he diVision 1& .gQre..tvely eddr.ralng problQ/II

.) ...,..... lIuch a~ du~t control, In ..n IIffort to ..vold

6 non.. tte1f1/l1ent .utue. The feel ~oe .u.r::I..ce

7 dlsturbanclI pl!nlIir. not only fund' the du.t control

B pr09ralll, but hopelully will ellcouraq. bue1nell.e. to

,. dllturb only tne dcrll"Ole n..cellery for their projllct.

10 The divlelon recelved one cOlllllent lettee frOlll

11 5en<ll .. Peopertle~ Llmlted cont=eenlnq the propo~ed Ue

12 end I ..ill eddreaJ the c_ent lIItter In Illy

13 tntll11Ony.

14 I.'..ge 11. Une 1", Sectlon 20.l1.2.t6. tee

1... errorl. coerectlon••nd r.tund. d11lcrlbe. th..

16 peocedur•• to b.. teken to correet ree ereorl, melle

11 correction. or e ..que.t rllfunde II .uted In ge_rel

18 provislons or thh part. the dleector !'ley deduct e

19 r ..eeoneble peote.elon..l eenice lee to cover the co.t.

20 01 .teft tlllle .nd peoc... elnq • penlllt or eequo."t.

21 P"Ole 12, line ]9. Section 20.11.2.11. taliure

22 to pey. e.tabU.hee the violetlon for ,0ueclI~ relUng

23 to p..y ",ny r.... eequlr..d by thl~ p,,"et .nd or procedure.

24 to bll u.ed to c ..lculete .ny pene1ty .nd int""II~t dUll

2!> conelltt..nt ..Ith the provi.lon. or s..ctlOIl

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"Scteell ptlntlnq ullng 1••• than 1,125

J ~a21-IU(-31-ICI of th. fQd..ul Chl ..n Al~ Act.

2 "ta.-tlnq on paq. 13, llne ~. conl1nuinq to

3 the end of tl',.....qul.t10n ill tl',. propelled te.

t 9chedul... The he lIchedule 111 coMbined into one

!> ••etlon for the convenl..ncQ ot the e••d.....nd to

Ei lIll11pllly lUlur. _ndlllent. to the fee lIchedule.

1 The UrI!. lub••ctlon "ddre'."1 4nnu41

8 "",l,.ion reel. The dlvilllon 1. not pl:opolllnq to

, chanq. the fee pollutant .... tell for nollhu:4rdoUlI or

10 haz4rdoull dr pollutant. and "ill r8lll41n 4t $31 and at

11 ~250 per tall rupectlvely.

12 The cu.-rent federal pr••umptlve lee n.t. for

L3 Ift.~or '1IIII:c•• ill $34.81 per ton. 1'he dlv!slon 11

14 propodnq to "41 ..e the .. 1n.1lllWll 4nnual fee from 5100 to

1!1 S15D. Source.. .,111 be required to p"y SUO or 531 per

16 ton, whichevet !a Qnatet, ullle.a otM!:..l'e stated.

11 Upon tllrthet tnvl_ ot the r.QlIlatlon, su.tt

18 teco_nd. the following lloot _endnlent•.

I') St... rtlnQ at p..ge i3, line 10, ..dd th. phr..e

20 "uni.lili other..ili. 11lited.~ 5tattlnq on line It, ..dd

21 ... llelll p .. r ..qtaph t, "(tl ..nnll..l "",l,..ion fe•• tOt

22 lpeclUc SOUtee c ..tegotlell," then liat tlle 1011owlnQ:

23 ,kut.o body rnp"!r ...nd p.t.lntlng: On••pt..y booth: No

24 ch..rQe, tWO Ot IaOte spuy booth.: $150: chrl>llllUl1

25 nlecttoplatlnq: $15(1; <Leqr......r .. ualnQ otq...nic

1 ,olyentll, nonh...loQellat.d .01Yen~a 1I.1nQ l.s. t.h...n

2 2,200 galloll. of ... ny on. aolvent-cont...ining m... tetl... 1

3 and 5,100 gallon a of any contlin..tion of

t HoiV.lIt cOIlt.... lnlnq .....t.tl..1.: '150.

5 H...log.n... t.d .0lventa u.ing Ie•• th..n 1,200

6 g...llon. or any Oil••olvent containinq ....teri...l .. nd

1 2,900 gal10nli of 4l1y colllbin... tlon .0Iv.nt-cont...lninQ

8 ",,,t..thh: 5150, dry cleanen/nonlll4jot: $L50;

9 .....rgency Qelleratot.' 5]50; q ...olLn••ervice ...nd

to ne.t lIutlonli) 5250 at '31 per ton, ..hichevet ili

11 qr.... t.r_

12 "lI... tUt...i Q4I Ot dlatllhte tulll1-llted boilet

13 1... than 2 ll\ill10n BTU. lI.ed ••cluaivlly rOt

14 teaidenti...l, co_tci...l Ot in.titution...l he... tlnQ alld

1~ hot ter: 11'0 ch... tQ.. Printing, publi.hinQ ..nd

16 pack ging opeutlon.: She.tled, nonhe... t I.t, o~ta.t

11 litlloquph, uUng len tllan J,125 Qal10nll of cle...ninQ

18 101v.lIt ..nd fountain aollltion ..d.dltivell: $150.

19 "Jlollhe.t aet 1Il.b ofta.t l1thoQr"'phy udnq

20 1••• th...n 1,125 g ...llon. of .olvent and fount...in

21 .olution ...d.ditivu: 5150. H.atlllt web Off ••t

22 IIthoquphy IIlinQ len th"n 50,000 po1,lnd. of int.,

23 c1eanlnQ aolv..nt ..nd fOl,llltaln soilltion ad.dltlvell:

24 Sl50.

"

1 Q... lloll9 ot toul 101yont uled, including .0lY.nt-b.....d

2 lnltJJ, cleaning '01 vent ..dh.,lv.....nd co... tl.nq; Sl~O.

3 "l"hloqt.. phy Ull.t.r ba"..dl or UI,/~clJted Int..

4 lJ80lnQ 1.'1 th..n 200,000 po1,lnd. tot.. l or ink., co..tinQl:

...nd adh••iY.,: 5150. Soil .nd ...ter telllediation

I; opet... tion.: $150. St,t1on..ry "Outee" ..lth d. llIiElimu.

1 ellLi••ionll: No ch.. tq•. "

I It III th.. intent or t.h. d!vl!.lon to lI.e thi"

!iI li.t of .pecitic 10lltCe cateqorl... fot nONll<l~or

to .olltcea wh.n d.t.oainlnQ .0lltCe ..pplicability and to

11 en_lite tait rei m.nt.

12 The n••t tlilO liubll.ctiona of Section III

13 utAbUah the fee .chndule rOt an inid.. l ..It qu80llty

14 toviev ro Obtain a conlltrucrlon penllit frOll the

1$ dividoll.

16 0,. p..g. 14, Une n, the dlvillon inlti...lly

l' ....nt..d to t.setYe t.his ,.ub••ction fo~ ..lnot 10urCI

III 'lener...l penllitl In Ueu of c809e-by-c...le air qu..llt.y

19 reV Ie., tOt 1I"" source •. I1pon tlJttllet t.vi.lIl, the

20 divllion ptopo.e. to add the follollllnq fees tor

21 q.netal pet1l:lt r.vl... to ..Yold havlnq to op.1I this

22 tequhllon ..gd., fOt public heatlnq.

23 on p..g. It, Itanlnq on lln. 1, sttit.e the

24 Wotd "roo ••rved" and add rhe rollo.,lnQ pat..gtaphs:

25 one, ..uta body rep-alt "lid p.t.intlnQ: $500/ two, dty

1 cl....nnu (1I0nmdjo::,: $0500: three, """'tllency

2 qOllet..tor9: $500; tOut, qeneric co..tll1g ...nd abtu1ve

3 oper...tions: UOO, oth.t fu.llnQ ...c111tlell rec.lvlnq

4 fuel by truct. Ot uil, Inon-1I'5PSI: $1,000; non-JlSps

5 boil.u: S500: ptllltlnQ ...nd plcklgillQ o~ration.:

, UOO: r.t...ll fleet Q"'loline .etvice .t... tiona: $500:

1 ao11 ..atet t ......dlatlon .yal_l, Sl,OOO.

6 on p..qe 15, st.. n.1ng on line 2 are tne

, propoaed c ...ae-by-caae ...it qll... llty r.vi... fee. tOt nev

10 10UtC.I. Thi. l ...n enl1nlon-b...sed res schedllie ..here

11 f••I incn l. a8 the 10lltCe'a potenti...l to _it

12 incr....le nd lIlill be boo.led on the 10Ilrc.'s pot.ntl..l

13 to eIIIlt 11 ree pollllt4llta, incilldirlq qu4tlt!tiab18

14 fugltlv. ",!Ilsaioll•.

15 Tbe fee not only cOv.tl the co,t of pennJ.t

16 revl.", but alilo Includ.a cultl tor conlttl,lctioll ...nd

11 boll.ellne Inspectionl, compli4/lc. telt r.vl.lIl,. and

16 10urc.'1 annllal e/lllllionl fee until the 1I.lt billing

19 petiod.

20 Fot tholle 'Olltc•• wit.h potentially 10..

21 "",is'iolla or tOlClc or ha.ardoll. "it pollut...ntl, "n

22 ...dd.1tion...l ait tOlCic reylelll fee will be teqllired lIlhlch

23 ..Ill otrlet the COlt. ot the•• IlIOn cO/llpllc... ted

24 perllllt9.

25 The hel propoaed an .ublt...ntl..lly hlQhet

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1 ttl"," the current tee ,ch.dul... Cur"..ntl,!"" lourclll'

2 witll preconll::ol1ed (Irll!1I11onl le~. than 100 ton. "Would

J P"''t only s.sao.

4 Th.t cover••bout IBVen "tlrt hourll, "s'I\lIIll'''1

S1S pe-r It.rr hour. Ttl.. proptl ..ed '.1 lIchedule "Would

Ii cBCfIIlrB ,"ourc... to p"'y up to $~.OOO. which aUS'Sl up

1 to 61 ytd! houn. 41111W1nq 40 houri for penllit. revi...

8 and procenlnq. eiqhl houu ...lr qu...Uty IIIOdeUn'l

9 revie.. , wIth ttl.. relll41nlnq felll' coverinq conlltructlon

10 ",nd bol••11ne InllpectlonB. cO/Ilpltance te'llnq .lId the

t1 ann..41 eml••10n 1_. lor the Bouree until the nell

12 b11Unq p"'r1od.

13 In 4ddltlon to the _l••Ion-b••ed 41r qu<l.Uty

14 revIew he••lIIY,1I0Urctl ttl"'l ""It conpl, wIth .ny

l~ f ..d ..ral1y reCflllred perlonw.nce Il4ndard. or control

16 H,chnoloql<ill Would be .llelllled In ...ddition.i re-wiew

17 fee to cover th" COlt ot impl."."ntinq the teder... l

19 proqr4lll..

I \I Theee teder4i reviev fe......re found on paqe

20 1~. It...rtinq on iine 13. Section O. Th.. mOlt cOlMlOn

21 feder4i proqr4/11 revieWed ... re rhe nev .ource

n perforlll4nce st... nd... rdl or N5P5 fouhd in 40 CF"R 60,

23 Which vould ...dd SI,OOO to the initid dr qu.Uty

H reviev tee.

2~ A•• ruie, "SPS noquir.e 4dditlon.l

1 record-keepinq reportlnq .nd compU4Ilce teltinq tor

:2 th" lource .nd the dlvl!lloll.

3 On p.qe is, Une 23, Section £ est:...biishe.

4 thf' tee Ichedu1e tor permit lIiodit1c... tion. The

divhion intends to reVile 20.11.41 IlMAC, .uthority to

6 conetruct, to Cllt... biilllh 1IIOdl.t1c.tion criteri4 for

1 poiiution prevention IIDditl.c.tions, minor or tl..xible

It pendt llIOditl.c4tionl nd _,or lIiodltic.tionl.

9 G@nerdiy sp Unq. llI4jor ..odHicatlonl wUi

10 b. thOle llIOdit1c.tions tlwt .iqn1tic.lltly inCrll4le the

lL ,ource'. potentiai '.:;0 .....it n.quirinq lfIOr. ext.lllive

12 p"nlit: r.viev nd procea"inq, raodeUnq 4nd in,p.ction

13 .nd cOl'llpU.nc ctiviti••.

it AIlI with the c.e.-by-c....e .1r CfII.Uty r.vi.v.

15 .ny /Olodit1catiD.r\ th... t l'IIu.t cc:n.piy with federd proqulII

16 requir"",ent vill be ch... rqed .n ...ddit1on41 federal

11 proqr4/11 revIew fee.

18 On paqe 16, lin. 2. the divilion propoe.s •

19 port...bl. SourCe reloc.tlon ree to co".r the cost ot

20 perlllit review .nd lIIOd.Unq at th. diU.r.nt 10C4tlonl

21 ... port.ble lourc. may reloc... te.

22 lftI.n .eubll..hinq th. c.ee-by-cu. dr

23 qu.ilty review fees.... dId not cc:n.pare our fe.

24 Itruct:ure to oth.r jUrllldlctione bec.us. the

25 .".lliion-b.sed fa. echedui. tIt our ne.dB. it Ie .leo

1 very :l.Htlcult t.o cOI'IIpan. peElIllt file. wJt.h ocnvr

2 Jurl&dlt:tlone.

J ThO! Statf' of Nev HexJco, tor exalllple, l.

" currently rf!vilJ.ng their tee ItructurOl to ...n

S ettort-b....'ed fee Ichedule, that ls, thf' ",ore ..".bllton

6 uoitl a lource propolel, the hiqher the perllllt ree.

1 lh 4ddit!0". the ,tate ch...rqe. t.e' for

9 SO\lrce. th...t l'IIust cOI'IIply with feder4l I ..quir......."tl

9 410nq wJth ...ir quallty modeUnq fee. todc oir

10 poliut...nt r ..vl_ r.......nd nonrefund4ble tiiinq fee.

11 0" revtewinq tlIe st4te'l propolud requl4tlon

12 4nd b4sed on RO<Ile R4rllpie c ...icui4tio"l on recent

13 peIlllit8 ilRued by our deparu...nt. w.. believe our fll"

14 lIchedul. is cc:n.p...rabi.. to t.h. st...te· ... propos41.

l' ROV"Ve-I. I beli"ve it's 1II0re teiiinq to

16 compare our proposed fee structure vith oth..r

11 rlletropoll.ta" .reas in thO! Rout-h-w.ut. For thil

19 purpose, I piclled H... ricop4 Cou"ty, ArlIon .... which

19 ~"ciudes Phoen1x, 4nd Clark County. IIsvaM, which

20 Jncludel L48 lIequ.

2i St4ft e;ehibir 13 outiinee tn.. di~terent ~ee

22 ...pproache.s and cCllllp4reR ton1qht'. propos...i with the

23 st.te of Nev He:dco, Clarll county and "4ricop.

24 County.

2.!1 Since e4ch jurisdictIon hu de"e1oped ... tee

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i pr0'lr_ th.t tite ill individual needl, it'l diHicuit

2 to rllake • direc·t comp.rliion. I beiieve, howe"er. the

3 cO!llp4rieo" doel .how th.t Aibuquerque's new SOUrCCl

4 reviev fe.1 4re re.son.bie. Clven con8iderinq the

S increan. beinq dllcu8lRd.

6 P.qe 16. lins 4. Subsection R e ...t ...b11sh"s

7 $lOC ~r ...cre fe-e for surhce dilturboI.nce pemill.

8 Th. purpole ot t.hi8 fee is to co.... r th. Co.tl of

9 .dlllin1Rterlnq 4nd entorcinq the provl1ion8 of 20.11.20

10 NMAC .irborne p.rticul.te llIoltter.

11 As praviOUl1y discuse.d, Aibuquerqu. 1'1."'11

12 ellce.d.d the annu... i n4tio".1 4lIIbi.nt ...ir CfIIall.ty

13 .t4nd4rd tor p.rticui... t. matter in 1999 vith hiqh

14 IClv.iI continuinq into th. ye.r 2000.

lS Aibl.Jqu.rq'J. I'IIUlt act now to controi dust

16 qener4ted by l.nd dilturb...nce ro .void federal.

17 .ctio". H4n.qinq the dust control proqr4/11 t4ll.....

i9 ..lni..UIII or two fuil-tirll. position... to procels pemits,

19 conduct on-llit. InspeCtIons, respond to c"",pl...1nte and

20 pertorlll the other adllll"lstr4tlv. m.tteu reiated to

21 the proqu,..

22 "qain. I cOlllp"'red our propolled dust controi

23 pemlt proqr4lll f"el with those of ClArk and MAricOpa.

24 Counties, St.ff E.hlbit Humber 14.

25 Our propo...ed ree of S .00 411 acre i9 les8 th...n

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I Clu:lt County'. t••, but Il1O ... than MaricoPA' 8 tee,

2 nOlle".r. Mar1cop4" ~I!. h an ann\l41 ree. Th. annual

} block perlllit required by l'Iarlcop4 county h avdllable

tor orqanLu.tlonll th4l pertolTll coUUne '''''.ll1l8n...n<:8 on

utl11ti ••• p4"lId and unpaved I"o.d~. road "nouiders,

Ii .lhy...nd publlc rlqllt-ol-w"y, at noncontlquolJB

-, .1te•.

B We he...e received one cannenl c:onc:erninq our

Ii propolled le.. " tro", 5...<111 Propertlel Llrl.1ted. Starl

10 ltllhlbit lfurT.ber 9. reqardlnq ..... Slt..r plan project. euc:h

1 Mr. S/l\lth or IH..dL

2 MI'". 511ver/ll.,,)

3 MP.. SILVE>tKAM: MI:. 5rlIith...hen yOIl qo

4 to tne dentlst, dO you lIave to pay nino before nil ,It.

S you In I'll, chi It?

Ii 1'IlI.. SMITH: Mo, but ne certainly uk'

1 tor my Inllurancll..

a MIL SILVBRMAII: You know, ..hen you qo

9 ,ee your bt"yer, do"l.I he "k for IlIoOney up front betore

10 he hear. your c,ue)

II MR. SMITH: Many do.

12 a"rel.

13 lfhen applyiJIq our propoled tee, the developer

l4 wOuld be requlnd to pay 590,000 or apPIOll1rll<ltely S]O

1~ p.,r 1'1.01,1'" 411.... Lnq tnree hOIl••• per ,,"ere in additlon

16 to the tee I alreAdy paid to Ule city tor project

11 ...pprovat.

111 Lool<1nq at other jurlldlctlonl, the I._

19 project "aula COlt at leall S32,~10 or IlIoOre In

20 MarIcopa county Ilnce per1ll1tl mUlt be reneWed

21 annually, and $99,100 In Clerk county.

22 Stdf believ.. tll.t the propo'ed ~ee o~ $100

23 per acre 11 realonable .nd ellpecta to qeller.te

2. apprOlinlately $90,000 In revenue per yeer baled on the

2~ .ver.qe nul'llber at acree dllltu<:bed per ye.r.

1 The albeltol unIt he round on peqe 16, lIne

2 ~,Sublectlon I, 1I1li r_eln the I .....e.

] P.qe 16, IItartlnq on line 6, Sectlon J,

4 eetabilihe. a milceilaneoul .dmlnistratlve feel the

.'j dlvilion "Ill charqe. The $1.'; per hour profee.lon..l

6 lervlce ~ee II.' e,tabilihed ••lllIIlinq an .ver.qe

1 employee aalary plua bene'·ltl and overhead.

a Maricopa'i prorel.lonal lervlce ~ee 1. $1Q per hour

9 and ItaH believe~ the propOled tee IS realoneble.

10 The reel ellUblllhed for pnotocopylnq and

11 requletlon booka are oon"lstent 1I1th deperltllent

12 policy. The publIC records releerch fee he. be"'n

13 estebUlhed to cover the direct aur~ cOltl of

14 cOll\plylnq "'lth IntolTl\atlon reqlllllU concernlllq

1.'; perrrLJ.t., enforc_nt actIon••nd coraplalntl.

16 Mr. Heerlnq otticer, thl. conclude. ray

11 te.tllll.ony and 1 11111'1 to end by quotinq Hlquel de

18 Cerventel ~rOft 1'111 cla.dc Don QuIxote by uyinq '''fbat

19 "hat cOltl Uttle i. velued Ie... "

20 Thaok you.

21 THE HEMING OFFICBR: Th.nll. you, Mr.

22 SlIIlth, end you Unllhed lieU in front of your U

23 mlnutel, so qood job.

24 At thll time, 1 ...."t to uk the _mben of

2.'; the Air gueUty Soerd if they have any que~tlonl of

l2 HR. SiLVERMAN: Well, you are ulllJ1q the

13 ..ronq la..yer. It'l Illy oplolon that the concept of

14 havlnq to pay the ~ee. before you look at anytlllnq or

U do anythlnq Iltl really ..ronq WIth IIIG, and I 1I0uid

16 never vote to lupp:.rt Ulat.

11 That" Illy co_nt on th.t lubject.

11 TH~ HEARING OFFICER: Thank you, Mr.

U Sllvarnoan.

20 Any other "'ember of the board have a que.tion

21 for Mr. SIIltth or tile eteff1

22 DR. PILON: Would you repeat the

23 ratlon..lll tor cherqinQ a potentlal to ern.lt ratner th.n

24 the ectual _l..lone a5 addre,.ed by the General Hills

2.'; letter I .... ju.t looklnq at.

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I MR. SMITH: lfhen ..e reter to potential

2 to _It, lIhat _ reter to 1. "het'. 1l/ll1tlnq the

J abIlity for tilll lource to _It. In meny callel, it'l.I

4 a perllllt, e federally II.nforceeble perrrdt that actuelly

.'; l.1.Jnltl the lource to 90 Il\4I1Y. let'. say, tOne per

6 yeer.

1 In abunce o~ e pemlt, potentleI look. et

a the procelle, ltaelt, and a"\lIl'linq no control, other

9 tllen tho.e controle alonq "lth productIon 11\ the palt,

lO or, rather, current h,e requletion, I .hould lay.

11 allo... tor .ources to be charqed on theIr actuel

12 ",ml••lon'.

13 Thet lIIean. II.IIl1.elol'liil they are en.lttlnq IIhlcn

14 are bela... their actual permit, but they ere actually

1.'; pemltted to eralr 90 ....ny hundredl of tonll per year,

16 10 the ~- "hat .... do il "e tl_ up -- thGll. _ls.lon.

11 are lied up.

U For the purpole ot many elr ~uel1ty proqrallll,

19 ~or "'ltalllpl"', If "'e "ere to do modeUnq, ..e lIlUlt take

20 ll\to account that of the .aurce'l ....111110n. that .re

21 ne~t to the propo,ed lource. We lIlUlt teke Ill. eccount

22 their 1I0rit ca.e Ic.lnerlo IIh_n ...e do the mOdeUnq.

23 AlIO, at eny tIme durl"'l any tl.... that .ource

24 ....y be -- theIr allowabl. elll11110n .....y be -- let'l

2.'; ley they were _ltlinq .';0 ton' per yeer end they .re

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1 dlaw.ble lao at any tillle ..lthout our approvel. they

2 I'Ice allow.d to _it up to 100 tons and "hat ... had

.3 done I., aCtually IIIYenlory the _1191ong thICouqhout

4 the county to fiquce OUt "her.. our _l.s,lolll ace

totaUy,.B. ~ot.l picture. lind we llled to UI" th06.

f, "",15"l.onl In dpprovl.nq and dh"l'provl.nq Project.

7 filS. BASSETT; So what you are Iot.ylnq 1.

II thAt .. r:aapdny would pI.Irch.... 4 e"cr.!" alllDunl ot

9 _i••loml, .. 1111OIt 1.111:. 4 b&Jl1r. dCCOUlIl, nor. knowlnq

10 whether they 'IIouid u •••11 or tho.... but hedq. their

11 hetB, llley would pulch....., .ay, 100 lone?

12 MR. S/IItTH; WeU. no, they would not

t3 putch.""

"

l~ 100'

"

fillS. BA5S£TT, Do they p4.Y tor thowe

HR. SHITH: Wo. Rlqht now, ... 411011

1 incentive to get a pfIIr",lt a .. clolle to Ith..t. they

:2 act.ually IIJ1.peCt, 1.""jng ... ",..tgln rOt ertor, but t.hey

3 "re qol.ng to hav.. Incef,tl". to get: cl0... r to t.h..ic

• a"'_ua1 output, and t.hat vould Iree up Othel _la.lonll

~Ott or, That would give you ..n \.1... that. the -- a

6 "lo... c Id..d Dd ....d on the p.r",lt.ting, wh..t theIr 4ctu..1

1 OUtput 11 qolnq to be.

a Right now Whdt you dtO laying h that th..

tallQiI of actual _1.,.lon6 I,. anywhete rtOlll h ..lf the

lil per",lt to all of the pennlt ..nd w.. don't know. but,

n th.n, the qu.nt.\on I. -- the G.neral Mills letter

12 taIled t.he quo.tlon: Why ..r" th..y qoinq to be charq.d

13 fOt _l.91on; that L.., they ... te not do1ng ..nd you ar",

14 5I"ylng YQU are trylnq to cteat. an lnc.ntlv.. fot Ulan

U, to peCll.lt ",are clo...ly to vhat t.h.y ate ..ctually qolnq

16 to eJfllt.

11 th_ to pay tor their actual SO, even lhollqh they' til

LS p.tlllitted to ha". 100.

]1 MR. SMITH~ Becau,. oUt cUttent fee

22 tequlatloll" .ay they can pay on 4ctual•.

23 MS. RA5SETT: So vhat loIe ate trying to

24 do 1. Jay "You h..ve to know ....ctly wh..t'. In the b..nk

2~ ..cCOunt bec..use v. ne.d that ",on.y," qI.Iote, unquot.,

20 IlMledl .. te pen..lI,y tor ell"....dlnq the p.nI\lt?

2l MIL SHITH: SB,I)OO a <:lay.

22 i'lR SlLVERMlI.N: would it be ponible --

23 I me4n, J c ..n see both Bldel of this l ....e. I ",ean. I

24 cett.lnly und..rst..nd why v ....ant to go to the

25 pOtentl.. l to _It. but .. t the ._e tl_...lth

"

20 rot 1001

MS. BASSETT: Why ariln't th.y chatged

"

"

"

MR. IiHITH: That' .. cottect.

THE HEI\.RING OFFICER: Mt. Sl1v"J:lU.I11

HR. SILVERMAN: What would be the

I "We n",,,,d that ",on.y for the alI' ..h.d tOt other

2 potential project., ....nd you "re tla.lcaUy .. Ott at

3 .. tockpll!ng th.. t potent141 COl

" HR. SIUTH: W..ll, It'. te..lly not

corr"ct. to .ay the'e _iSllon, h..". dny value. 'rh.y

6 aI'''' pflltIIIltted durIng the perlllit proce.... They are

7 allowed to ellllt 10 lI.any ton.. per year of e",l••lon..

S b4ud on their ptOpo"'d appllc.. tlon ",odel1nq ..nd 10

9 [otth.

10 I'It this tl...., ve don't ha"e wh..t' .. r.terred

11 to .. I .. c ..pped-ort tr..de vhere ... h..ve Capped oft the

12 ",..I"'ion 1",,,e1., and, therefore, thOI. anlsllon levell

13 "'ay b""e actual re.. l ""lue, but ..hat w'" aril trylnq to

14 do il eiinoiJi4te .ource. th.. t h ...... , iet' ....y, 100 tonil

1.5 peCll..1tted. tyimj1 \lP tho.e 100 ton. within our ..it .hed

16 olnd paylnq oniy OIl 50 toni ...hen, at any tillle. they

17 couid u.e th.. t 100 toni if prod'lct10n delIl4.Jl<U It.

19 DR. PHDIIl: So by Iwitchimj1 to a

20 potentiai to _it, a. oppo.",d to act'lal ulaqe, you ar.

21 cr_tinq.n Incentlv.. for the aO\lrce to appzo..ch llIOte

22 cioseiy wlth 1u actuai output to wh.t it potentially

23 11 alioved to dol

2' Mll.. SHIT": I\.ctu..iiy. yel,

2~ OR, PI1DIIl: B",cau •• then th.. y wiii h ..v.

P..g", .7

I p<lnalti"'s ~or vlolatinq th.. p.r"'lt tieIng. you knov, at

2 that le".l, you kn01l". the n.ed to pad the petlllit 1.

3 pt..tty ob\tlous t>eC..u.e YO\l don't w..nt to -- you !u.t

4 5ILrn.ply can't take that rl5lk, and Illy qI.Ie .. tion 11: Old

~. you look .. t a ptocedure that I'Illqht ",nCO\lr"ge pe0l'le to

6 p.rlIllti. closer to what they are qolnq to -- What they

1 wO\lld uae, but. theIl, If. you Ilnow. III.ld ye..t, th"re i.

S .. need ror, you know, b\lsln.... spIll••• [ ",ean. PIIM I.

9 a qreat ••allple.

10 I noticed tOday that they v"n out, you knOll,

11 b\IrnlI1q Rell"el qeneratInq pl..nt prllll..rlly to send

12 eJecl.rlcLty to CalUornla Ls Illy, you know.

13 luppolltlon.

14 I think balance io..d on t.h. qrid. t.&ke P..io

IS Verde. lend it loIe.t, qenerate on our power hete, you

16 know. they didrl't know th.. t we vere goinq to h"". a

17 crilis in caUtornla, ..nd, you kno", What 11 it to t.he

18 .conOllly, you know, to h.."e Cailforn1.. 110 dark, and if

19 th",y had a peLTllit i .."el that Val dovn, wh.re they h..d

20 t ..ken ttv. y...rll' worth ot nOJ:lU.i busineli', petlllitted

21 th.. t <WIIOunt, ..nd. th..n. this .pike happens, alld. then,

22 they q.t hit vith SIS. 000 .. d..y, you know, that

23 dO.ln't -- that'l pUtting hudcuffl on the econOlllY,

24 ..nd. you know, 1 think if we vant to .ncourage thi.. ,

2S th.. concept or potentiai t.o anit. th.n .... pEob..bly

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L Duqht to cOllIe up vith 101M! typ' of llIecll"nhlll thet

2 "oIJld allow un..:pected eventl.

J I 1II.. 4n. you know, there I. on. thing to De.

t yOIl _nov. conlcl.ntlou., you kno... 9011'19 to exc.od.

.Ilee'd•••c ..ed, but there 11 " 11'1'1014 ot.hef de"l IIhere

6 t".. ret 11 ]"'It unintended consequences that you cannot

) tore,.e, and .0 1 dill not lure 118 have this totally

8 riqund out qiven that thouqht penc...... and I IIILqht

'iI like to !lIee " couple ot other Icenerlo, that m.lqhl

10 tell. that into &CeOlult.

11 MIL SMiTH: ",..11••Inea you brouqht up

12 PHH, In their letter. thllY are cunently pay1nq

13 SII.292" veu. I qu..... that .... the l.st, and thl.

14 chanqe lIould Iher...... by -- would require an lnere,ne.

)!i let'. ,e.., to $1$2.923. I have qot ecucee.. thlt I~I

16 not ..ajo~ ,ou~cle 11t.1 PJIM PlY Lng 1IlO~. than 511,292.

17 11R. SlLVEAHI\II: II thlt 11.000 bliid 0'"

18 th..1t Ictuai ..milllonl1

1<;1 HR. SHITH: Yel. So I havi qot sourc.1l'

20 out ther.. p.oyinq ",ou than 311,292 whIch lren'~ gOInq

21 ~o enjoy the benlriu of CllifornII'1 bllckout.

21 HR. SILVERMK: Why Ir" people payinq

23 lIIOU, th..n thin

H HR. SHITH: W. ch..rq .. $31 per ton.

2~ KIL slLYERMK: And?

1 bant. penlll ':.tlnq tonnlqe by relervlnq IIIOre thlll. you

2 know. thin whit they need. $o ..e hive come up with a

3 mechlnllm to try to cut thlt do..n cloler to ..hit they

4 are Ictu..lly ull1nq. the permIt level. but It thl Id.III..

5 time. 1 <UII not lure thlt you c ..n IIIOve rillt enough to

6 r"act to wl>at hlppen'- In busin••., on 111 onqoinq

7 bad'.

8 ct..lrly, 90 dlyl i .. not flet enouqh.

"" I'IR. SHITH, well. tl>ere are provillon.,

10 .'pecillty with lII..jor .!lourc.... III to the type of

11 perllllt•• to hlv.. alternlt.lv.. operltinq !lcen..rloll, .0

12 thlt'.!l, ..qlin, Inother opportunity th..t th.y h..ve.

13 HR. sn,VERMA'" We11. lIIaybe you noed to

14 expilin th.. t to UI. beclule 1 don't underut..nd th..t.

1~ KR. SMITH: They h..v. dilf.r....t -- Titl..

16 V .. llows fo~ lources to crelte dirferent opllr.. tinq

11 scen..rl01 blsed on thei~ ne..d. One operatlnq ICln..rio

18 lilly be prOViding II.lbuqu..rqu.. with po...n, the other

19 oper.. tlnq Icenulo lUy b. providillq CaUfornI.. "ith

20 power.

21 Both of tho.!le options ..re in the pel'1llit so

22 that they don' h..ve to ~eperll\i~ to qo to thoue

23 partIeuI.. r Qparatinq leeniriol.

24 MS. B.l\.SSETT, But th"y would be u.in<;l --

2~ they would be elleeedinq. then. thO! ~onn ..ge of the

1 pel'1ll1t. th.. t they orlqin..lly purch.. , ..d, .0 thi.'y Would

2 be viol..tinq their perlllit.

J HR. SMITH: On. of thoee opllr.. dnq

4 i'cenlriol "ould inclyde ~he wo~st c ..se .cen..r10.

1 HR. SMITH: $31 per ton.

2 HR. SlLVERMAlJ: And wh.. t Irl!! you

3 chlrqinq the other lolks?

4 I'IR. SHITH: 1 couldn't t"ll you rtqht

5 off the top ot my head.

6 HR. SILVERICl\JI: Well. I l1li clelrly In

7 r"vor ot everybody payInq their hlr Ih"r....hIch l'

8 my nellt le~ ot qullLione. I! I could continue.

,

6 on1

,

•

HR. SILVERKf',M: And "h.. t do you perm.it

HR. SMITH: I don't undent..nd.

I'IR. SlLYERMK' Will. Ire you qolnq ~o

THE H&.\RING OITIC£R.: Ple ...e proceed.

10 I'IR. SIHTH: Mr. M..rtin..r "II jUlt

LI advillinq 1111 th.. t theU, Irl ..leo other p~ovillionl

12 InVOlved. In hct. th.. y do h..v.. modilicltlonl.

1) provI.ion.. Where they c ..n m..ke chlnqel to thlir

1 perlllit.

1~ 11R. SILVERMAN: Yel, wh..t·, the t1.llle

16 line for doinq th..t. thouqh.

11 HR. SMt'l'H; 90 daye.

18 HR. SILVERMAN: 90 dlye. you know.

19 CdUorni.. would qo dark.

20 HR. SMITH: we11. thin 1 would think

21 tha~ $15<;1.000 11 a b..rq..in.

22 KR. SILVERMAIil: H&ybe it ie Ind mlybe

23 it'l hir, I don't know. but 1 cln teii you th.it rrOlll

24 a conceptuai Iwndpoint• ... hive I probl..... and th..

2~ probi_ il that ..e Ire trytnq to qet people not ~o

P..qe ~o

9 pe[lllit on wor.t elle scen..rio or nOnllal .elllnerlo?

10 MIL SMnH: Both.

11 11R. SILVERMAN: Whit Ire you qolnq to

12 charqe tor it1

13 HR. SMITH: Riqht no.....e ..re propoelnq

14 ~o ch..rqe $31 I ~o....

1!i HR. 5ILWlUIAN: So you are luqqntinQ

16 thlt you c"n ptIrm.it on lIther on.. , but you're qOlnq to

17 end up p ..yinq on ~l>.. worst ca'e ,cl!!n..do, even thouqh

18 th..t IIIiqh~ be I once in U yelr --

1<;1 11R. SKITH: Th"~'lI the benetlr ot hlvinq

20 th.. t IIIOdiUeltion alre..dy In pl..ee Ind not h..vinq to

2L qo 90 dlY"

22 HR. SILWlUIAM: I think you Ire qlvinq

23 bu.inell ~oo lIluch credit.

24 THE H!'.AIHI"G OFFICER' M~. H&rrinl1.• do

25 you ....nt to qive a re.ponsl? If so, you hive to be

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1 .worn.

:I ANCEL I'lMTIN!'lo

, teetl tied 48 foUo... :

THE H2AIlING OFFICER; PIe••• Holt" '1'0\1['

MIl. MARTt"EZ: My I'll,"" 1. "'nqAl HarLine:t

8 dnd! ..... the "",n5ger toe the olir quaUty dlvll1on. !

9 thlnk one of the th1n91 ttl.t n••dl to t:>e ••pldlned 1.

\0 that yel, .... dre l;['y1n9 to enlure that pern.ltted

11 1I"0\l['C•• P'lrItIlt •• clol" to th.lr operetionl or 4.

12 cLole to their needs a. po.llbl", that llI.y bA 411 clo,.e

13 to the operatlonl 14.t. 'flUe or I. cIa•• to "holt they

14 perceLv.. Lhe lII&rltel: ,,111 be in the nellt. fell Y"U",.

lS, Thu"e au provhlonl that 4110w t.he louce. to

16 ""'lSi!y. there dr. provt.lonl trono. the pre....ntlon

I? proqr_ that &110..1 t.he lource to actually reduce on

18 One end of the 'Duree end basledl)' t4k.. credit for

19 that.

20 th.. turnaroUlld tl 1~ ""''''I'. ""'ry 9hort. on

21 th.t. .nd I t:>elle". It.·9 t.t.e .. Of not.lUc.. t.lon

22 ... 1l:hln 10, 15 d..y.. It. doe. not. requl ... public

23 he..rinq. it. dO.9n·t. r"qulre .. hythlnq. They c.n

24 b.,lc.. Uy 1u.t do It. 90 ...e h.."e tho.e provl.10n. In

2~ pl ..ce.

1 Th. I ...". of the oper.. t.lnq ..It.ern''l:l'''.

2 op..... t1nq .cen.rl0. III th.. t '1'••• the .O\lrce c"n

3 ..ctu..lly d,ulgn different .c.n.rl0. Int.o the permIt.

4 Wh .. t ..ould h....e to h"ppen 1. th.. t not.ltle.. tion ",ould

5 h...... to beo .umitted to the deparUllent In ord.r for

6 theao. to ....ltch o...er to the n.xt .cen....l0.

1 One Of the thing. th<llt I need to be -- th.. t

8 ne.de to be point.d OUt on thi ...hole lu\le 11 th.. t Lt

g i!l -- you kno... t.h.re ..re pro"'l.lon Ithln the

10 tedeul ..Ct th.. 1: .110.. th.. t if th III .1'1

II _rqency-type !lltu.. t.lon. I 11I."1'1. pretty much you h..".

12 no choIce. I me..n. if C.Llfornl.. goe. d ....k tOlllorro",

13 then T c ..n qu..r ..nt.e you I:h.. t .. 11 bet••re off. [

14 mel.n .... r.. r .... cOlllplylng ..lth the.e p..rtlcul"r

15 regulI.tlon. bfIC"UlI. th.t I. "",r. of I. n.. tlon..l

16 emerqency th<lln ..nythlnq eille...nd t.he teder..l act. doe",

11 .Uo" for th.. t.

III No.. , "hat ..e .re t"lklnq ..bout i. en'urlnq

L9 that the f ..cUitiee h..."e t .. ken Into Con.iderat.ion ..nd

20 ....e u.ing good bu.inell. pract.ice to en.ure th.. t ..e

21 .. 110 under,und ..h.. t the i"'p..ct to t.he econoray 0 .. t.o ..

22 .~ecltic ..rea ..iH bfI.

23 I("'ep In mind th .. t if .. hcllity hu the

24 option, you luIo" ...nd .ince ... are t.lklnq· about. ..MM.

2S t.o qo ...h."d ..nd pay tor the tuLl. p"'rn.lt...nd t.h..t I.

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2 point....fIo lIndflorllt..nd t.hU. tho lie ",,,,i,aion .ub1l1uion.

3 ...lthln th.. t ...........re ti.d do...n "nd there i. no L ..lr:lnlJ

1'ou 11.1'10 .......h.. t m..kllla It difflcuit lor UII ill

I ulled to look .. t ClUy, ...h.. h .. pp.ned 1.Ut '1'....-. but

9 q ..ve t.he right LO l"rg. 90Ufcell to go up to ...h.r. t.MI

10 L1.rnlt "'''1I...nd '0 "'h .. t. th.. t b"!llcdLy do.., to t.h.. t

1\ ....e .. i. t.h.. t .... n..ve to t"k. th.. t into t.h" 1II0d.Linq

12 conlld.r.. tion.

13 w. C"nnot. continue t.o peIlr.it .. ource ...round

14 t.h.. t ..re.. bfIc"ul. nothing prohibit. t.h... from going to

16 t ..lking ..bout ..er1.ou8 econ0ll.1c impact9 to tho <l.r." .. nd

11 th .. t i. qolnq on the p"Y"'''nt., "'h1.ch 19 f ..r hlgh.r of

18 "n economic Imp..ct. th..n pr.tty lIluch "nything fIo1.e

19 "'1thin the r ....lm ot the Cle.. n ,Iii .. ",ct. but th.n .re ..

20 lot of pro",19lolll th.. t. ..re cu ..rentiy in pl..ee th..t.

2\ .. Uo.... the r"cJl!ty to utl11ze good bu.lnel'

22 p....ctlcel. qood englneerlnq pr..et.lce....nd "'e h..v.

23 "tlsl.t..nee th.. t.. yo:... kno.. , "'. go l)ut the ..e tnte of

H ch..rge .. nd ...ork ~or then. On I:h.. t p"rtiC\ll<l1" 1.9ue.

25 "'..yIle there 19 .n ..ntiqu ..t.d piece ot

1 "quJ.pm.nt t.h.. t c .. n be ch"nged. llI<lybe th.r'" 11

2 eontiqur.. tlon.....ybeo th...e I••on", kind of ~roc••• 0 ..

1 ''It...n''l:l,,,,, _thad th.t they C"n ul...nd "e don't t"k"

4 thoBe c ..edit!l ""''''I' t:>eC..Ull. they ..re In .. ~emllt. but

5 ... ql.... thelll cndlt to .. ..dditlon..l ~rocell. or

6 productlon••o thOle ..re th.re "nd t.hey ..re IOlI.e"hat

1 cOlllpllc.. ted. but trw ..e III -- by ..11 _an•• ther, 1.

II 1II0r. th ..n one pro... l.10n th<llt ..110 t.he f ..c1llty t.o

9 mall.. mOdlfie.. Uon, durlnq -- h..lt y throuqh t.he

10 proce •• to en!lure t.h.. t. prOduetlon II I114de...nd. you

11 kno....q ..ln. to u....h.. t the C..cll1t.y put.1 out. ... f .. t

12 ., production 1. 1rr"'1.......nl: to Ull. It', 1u.t the

LJ ellll••lon. th..t .t. tied to th... t ~rodUction. 1I0 t.h.

14 ilion ettlcl..nt th.. t t.hey becOllle, you kno.. , the t:>etter

IS lt il for e ....rybody ...nd, yo" kno,.,. tor the economy

16 .. nd for I:he en\lLro"",",nt.

HR. SILVEIIMAIII: 1 undent..nd th.. t. r ..'"

L8 lIu~~ortl\l. of It ..nd I thiuk th..t·. gre.. t .. nd I:h..t·"

19 t.he "''''I'll. ouqht t.o be. but.. you 11.1\.0 .... th ..t'. th.

20 norn...l cours' ot bulllne.e...nd, you kno... o"e thlnq

21 th .. t. I It"o.. ill that nor",..l I. h d to tlnd "n)'lllOre,

22 "nd. you kno... to be -~ m..ybe need to think ..bout.

23 ho....e are dolng th1&.

24 If "e pIck up .. lot of he ..droom 1.1 ... r.eult,

25- you kno;". or thl. p"'mlitt1nq ..oce ••• m..yIle ",h.. t "e

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6 palf:Jed by this bo.. rd.

1 MR. 5ILVI\IIMAII: [ que"i w.. CAn unpaBB

II It, then, caD't wfl-~

9 HR. SHITH: "0.

10 HR. SILvEAMAH: I thinll. Ole coin.

11 HR. SMITH: well, then theee wOllld be a

12 feder.. l proqr..... In pl..ce,

13 HR. SlLVEAKMl: Thll Other pert of thh

14 Is ~~ .nd yOll brouqht to lL9ht In cOlllparlnq Clerk

15 County and Harlcopa county, ..hlcn I lj111e,i1 It's CI ..rk

16 COllnty that. h.. 11 the ..nnll..l permits?

11 MR. SMITH: " ..rlcop...

18 KA, 5ILVP.AMAII: " ..d=p.. has I:hll ..nnUel

19 pel1ll1t9. It seems to 1IIe, ..nG I will lise topaoll

20 dlstllrb"nc91 .. e .. poJrticular, oltay, the proqr4lll that

21 ..e "or..ed Ollt "ith R.io Gc..ndl! Cement, the fOl.1~-people

22 p!:oqr.... I belJ.e"", iii wholt Jt ..a5 c .. l1eG that w9 were

23 ....... ~ded·-

24 KA. S"ITIt: P-4,

2~ MR. 5T1.vERMAII: The P-4 proqr4lll ..here "e

1 neeG t.o do 1. r....rve !II piece ot that tor the unknown,

Z ."d, th.. ", maybe we need to build Into ol,lr tile

] .lruc:tuc!I and our [eqlll.tory .yllem the 4t>lLLty tor

4 t.he ..<::on,,",y. 1.e., Indlvidu<ll buslne,"'" or qroup' ot

5 th..'fII, to be .ble to ulle that u,lety ra41qln, mayOfi they

6 hev.. to pay double. you knOll. on an audit ba,l...fter

1 !.he r.ct ~O[ that lO""49", 110, you Ilna", ....ybe they

8 de" payIng 531 up to their pemlt level and they pay

9 SliS, you knOll, !II ton to 90 above It. "hlen 11111

10 encouc4qe rqu••:tlnq the fl"Jlce •• out of it, but not be

11 hit w1th $U,OOO .. day.

lZ [ mean, you knOll, 1 .,. )llllt not \lure thet. _

13 [eally, you Iulov. dre on the rlqht track, Otey. t

14 (!,Illy support. that, I jun thInk that there h."",.

15 tW.4klnq that neede to be done to t .. ke 1nto "CCOllnt

lEi the ....y the nal ..orld "orke.

n The second set of questione, 1f f m.. y, do ..e

18 have .ny ide....hat the loell of revenlle "ollid be it all

19 of our sm..ll bulln.... p.I![IIIltteel took ..d" ..nt"lj1e ot the

20 !l0 percent or ..h.. tever the dllcollnts aCe for 91tl"l1

21 bllillne ....7

22 HR. SHITH: Mo.

23 HR. SILVEIlMAM: II th.. r ....ny ....y ot

]( qu..ntHyinlj1 it?

2!l KR. SHITH: Mot wIthout a lot of e!roct,

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I

,

]

MR. 5/'lITH: lIfl-l1, the $lftali busineu

reduclion Or "hat"Vec, It. III con919tent vlth the Clean

Alr Act, ..nd In lrylnlj1 to provide fOr nUd trOlll

theae r"qui.tionll -- it's 'Ciqht Ollt ~" the ,"lean Air

and it.

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1 becallie we sImply don't. h ..vII the Intot"!ll..tlon of who 11

2 .. 11"",,11 OOl1ne.. by th.. t dllflnltlon.

J KR. SILVERMAN: So ..e don't h ..ve "n,

( ide .. of ho.. mUch of a cost of oper.. tlnlj1 thil prolj1u"

!I 11 golnlj1 to lj1et ehlfted to the laclj1er opo!r.. tlonll al •

to resllit of ..hat we ..re sll9qellln9 11 credlte fOI[ .....11

1 burln.se?

MR. 3MITH: Mo.

KA. SIL'lE:RMAIf: lie11, I thlnll. th..t'l

10 lln(ortllnate ..n.d I thlnll. we nfl-ed to """lI.e a goOd-felth

11 "ftort to try to determine th ..t, .. nd the re...on

12 be1nq--

13 HR. SMITH: Well, .... couldn't honUlly

14 get th.. t lnfotlllation WlthOllt 1Il0nth...nd IIIOnthe of

l!l qOln9 out there, ..nd, ..ctu..lly, qettlnq -- actllelly

16 aBlI.lnq the 'i"e.llOAll, "re you a 1...11 bUllne,.e,

17 MIL 31LVEAMMI: liell. yOll l!.Jlow, I que,.

18 my re,ponee would be th.. t, yOll uO'" to quote

19 Cervantel, t.h.. t "Th.. t which COlt little 11 v..lued

20 le...

21 I mean, It we don't h ..ve ..ny Ide.. what we ace

22 91"lng ..way, I don't know ho.. It can h""11 ..ny value,

23 90, yOll "no.., It a ton ot polllltion 11 "orth X, It'X

H wocth X to .. 8"",,11 budne.., jll.t llll.e It 1a to .. blq

25 bllBlne ...

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1 ..ent out., we worked wIth theil, ...e ..diult..d th.

2 ..ock.d wIth t.he.. to ..djllit their lyst_1I ..nd m....e ..11

3 that ..ork, It see",e to me th.. t partlclilarly In the

4 top,o11 dllturbdnce th ..t there 11 pl"obably, I ...

!I queeainq, tOll," or ~1ve, Ib, """ybe el9ht folke that do

& l ..rq.-Ic..le dev.lopment, prObably do 80 peccent, you

7 know, or aU t.he "'..squeradln9 In to"n, and It le...1 to

8 me th4t ...e ne.d to t ....e that !I411l11 carrot and ItIck

9 propoul and inste..d of I.....yb. doin9 land....ne!: pe[lllitl

10 t.hat ..holt Ire dO Ie we cOllIe lip ..Ith a qll..llty aslllr"nce

1\ p!:oq!:AlIl tor the 1"1:ger cont.r.. cto~s th4t do the

12 lIl..joClty ot thla work and ..orll. '11lth th_ to ",a..e IIllr.

13 th..t their oper.. tlons .or" as 900d as they possibly can

14 be, because it yOll call. get the 90 percent with e19ht

15 po!ople dolnq ..n excellent jOb ot """Inulnlnq, yOll

16 know, PMM, 2 ~, or PIIH dllit control wor", then your

17 problem qeu to be .. whole lot I",all.r and fIIaytlofl you

19 hav.... whole lot. 1Il0r. time to tOCllS on, yOll kno'll, the

19 ren."qadea, 1 quela I ...h .. t r /IIlqht C..U th_, and SO I

20 h"v4 a problel'll, I ~lle.r, -wIth t.he hundrotd dOU ..rs ..n

21 acre.

22 I think we ne ..d to COllI. lip ",Ith .. dltte~ent

23 t.houqht ptoces., given the strllcture or people that do

24 topsou d1ltllrb"nce, wh ..t. dlUecent ....y or "ppro..chlnq

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I "nod ( thin.k ... "led to thin.. throuqh that. 4.

2 ".,ll, for", dirferent &ppro&ch beC4U.I I think it will

J be l'Iluch lIIOre e~ rective. you talUI .. whole lot 11911 tlllle

• and hay. '" lot better "hd 'R.ult for de quaUty L~ w. !> do that.

(, 'rhat'" ..11 l'Ily quletlonl ,H\d cOnnutntll.

9 5Il"....... ".

"'"'1 other l1I<1111ber" or t.he 004,<:1 have "''1

10 quelltlon9 to the city "t.t! at thll tJlllol1

II IJA.. MULLOY: I 9ue~. J ....nt to 90 back

12 to "holt. Hr. s11verm4n ".id. iu1t 10 [ under_land.

13 Ilnc. he ..... 10 veh....ent. abOut the paying up front. and

14 the procell 11 to pay tor t.he permit h·e up front. I.

15 th.. t riqht, 14 that "hat you are -- .... part of your

16 application1

I HR. SIlNERMAJl: Give It. b..<:k to th_.

2 fiR. SMJTK: lIell. th..t'l ..hAt ..e do. Alld

3 wH.h th" f"eR ....r:tly••nd t.h.. t will upedite t.he

4 pro<:es,.

5 DR. PllDM; But .. hal you He saying ls

6 tnat your adnllnist.r.l.tots wlnd up holl'Idl1ng the

1 p..p.n'..ork oVor olnd OVIH ..galn ,ath.. , than having it

8 completed oll<;e and h..llded to you.

I'UI.. SMITH: lie ..anL 1<. complet.. up

10 trollt. 1'10", 01'" of the r:OIlII'Ilent, that Mr. SilvermAn

11 lII..dli' ..bout bURlnelse .. , you kno... 90 dayR may • .,elll lik.,

12 .. Long tlrlle for .. bueine.... but keep In mind that .I t a

13 buBinelR ..endl UI a permit th.. t II IncOlllpl"t., we .end

14 it bACk to tn_, y"t W" a"" the on"" that .. "", you

15 know. caueing the p"oblellll, what we Ilr." propoling in

l' tha r.gul.. tion and on Lnto the amend/llent. to 4., i.

" HR. SMITH' Pay the permit fee up th.. t "e "oln': .. cOlllplete ..ppllcatlon, ..e ..ill di.cUII

19 front. For ex_pi.., the dUlt control permitl, we

1<:l "ould -- J "ould hope that the con.t~act.or ..ould tno..

20 no ......ny acre I he planl t.o dilturb sin<;e that'l

21 p~obebiy p..rt of I'll. hId.

22 I don't .ee ..here there ..ould !:Ie a probllNll of

23 payIng up front there .... far a. a.!:Ieato... II.gdl,n. it

24 tne contract. i. going t.o refllove asblUltol. I "ould hope

25 Lhe cont.ractor "ould kno" 1'10.. much aabeltOI 1'1" 1,.

18 th.. m.ltter "h,,"d ot tim... it you "ant to. a. "e will

19 go "ith the busine:n to mAke ,ure they h..ve a compiete

20 appli<;.. tion, ..e ..ill ch"E"ge tOE" that 575 ..n hoo~, but.

21 lit the tiAe thllt it 11 lul:n1tted into the -- to u.. ror

22 processlng, it .,.ill be a compiete "ppil.<;.. tion and We

23 don·t. h"ve to E"eturn it in 30 d..y' !:Iecau.~ It',

24 incomplete.

I'UI.. SILVERMAN' Ho.. does P4ylng the re..

I goIng t.o be removIng prIor to get.t.ln; tne permIt.

2 11.. to~ aut.horlt.y-t.o-<;onlltruct pElrmlts. 1

J "ould hopEI thlllt the 1I0urces have an appU<;atlon In

4 pldce ..here it. stdt.e. "hat theIr pot..nt.ial eminion

5 ratee are goIng to be 10 thdt they. themlelves. Cdn

, m.lke .. deteCIIIln.. tlon as t.o wh.. t t.hs ..pplicabil1ty

1 "ould!:le, so J t.ot ..lly dls..gr"e "lth Mr. 9liverman.

8 DR. MU1J.,OY: 511'1<;" you dO .. difter"nt

9 proc......t thIs point, 1'1 .... it been prIor t.o thll th..t

10 you have expeCt.ed them t.o pay DOllIe thing and eIther

11 tney h ..d to p ..y I'IloOre or p..y 1"., th..n "h.. t tnelr

12 provislon..l permit. ...,1

13 MR. SMiTH: \11.,11, for t.h.....beatos

1 up rront enlure th.. t th.. aPPll<;Iltlon 1. goIng to !:Ie

2 cOlllpl"t"dl

3 Ime&n~~

MR. 9MITH; it' .. II part of the cOlllplllt"

5 ..pplicatlon p..cket. just ..s It'. going t.o be the

6 publlc intormatlon OE" the pUbllc notlee requlE"_ntl

7 tn.. t "e "Ill a,k the bu,ine'le. to ,utRlt, it'R ..

I compi"te ..ppllc.. tlon. II......nt <:OO'Il,Hete p..perwoE"k

9 ..hich include I A c ...lcul.. tlon Qt th.. fees ..nd p...,-nt.

10 DR. MULLO't: I ue thh .. 11JtIll..r to

11 kind ot .. llcen:rlng, ..nd, I me..n, obviou:rly, 1 h..ve a

12 license, 1 n ..ve to <;oll\plete my Ilpplicatlon ..nd ..end my

13 t .... In.

14 progr_• .,.h.. t "e hlllve found out la th.. t t.hey ..re

15 llI"klng ul do t.hll work In det.ormlnlng 1'10" lI.uch It.'D

l' going t.o cost AI oppo.ed to having th..... dn the

11 cOO'llplet.e ..ppllc.. tlon &nd lutRit.Ung It. t.o Uil".

18 M9. BASSETT: Can you Ii'Kpl .. 1n that1

19 \IIh.. t do you lIII!..n by you "doIng t.he ..ork"1

20 MR. SMITH: Well, they don't. COlll8 in

21 "lth a c,,",pl"te appllce tlon.

22 MS. BASSETT: Hail-fiUed-out

23 ..ppllcat.lon1

24 HR. 9Ml'rH: Tbey hsve not filled. it.

25 cOflpletely out..

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fiR, SMITH: Up ahead, eKsctly.

DR. MULt.o't: Up ...he"d. It th..y tlnd

16 lome problem "ith It, you kno.. , 1 dOn't ne<;enarlly

11 get Illy money back or "h.. teveE", but, you know, I don't

18 lee .. prolllelll wIth that becsus" It', not ju,t you are

i9 addIng lervlce on top or it and someho" you' E"e goIng

20 to tllke your money back or take it before or ..hsteVeE",

21 1 thInk t.hl!i L. tOE" pllying tor .. li Of the

22 ..~ni.tzatlve costl and not adding C:Olts On It. and

23 it .hoUld be kno.. n up tE"ont wh.. t it 11.

It MR. 5MIT/I: You know you're goIng to be

2S a."elud that tee.

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1 THE HEAIUNG O'VIC£Il: Steve1

2 DR. PI!-ON: It ••__ to," that it's

J alDO I 81'11\ or qood falth till1:. they er....rloull .bolll:.

4 dolnq "hat they Ire 14ylnq they Ice qolnq to dO to

) 91.lbrl\1 t the t .....

My qu... Uon tIl If one of the proble... or If

7 one or th. dellyl 13' the tieL tholt the appllcltion hall

8 to be 8"bIllltted -- 1'141 to be returned, Ind, then.

') relll.blllittO!d. 14 there !Ony ....y thet the departll\Qnt CIIl

10 c""",,lt to .. _hoeter time period U"0111 ')0 deyll, maybe

11 cut It In half, maybe> cut it by .. third, II the ctDcl<

12 IItlctl rUl'lninq fcOllI the tlllle thlt the IIIoOn..y 11 plid

13 al'lel the eppll".. tlon III cOIIIpl .. tedl

HR. SMITH: elloreenlly, we hive 30 dayl

15 frolOl the dete II. receive In IppUc4Uon to determine

16 jUlt If It'. complete, .dldnhtroo.t!v..ly complete.

11 Thlt, ot oour••, you II.n01ol, tile permit r.vi..v.r

18 actually t4lc..a til....ppiic.. tion, '10•• throuqh, u'd, ror

19 the mOllt part, it'. 4n ..<!ftIilli.tr4tiv. ch..cl!., beC.. UI.

20 the 4ppiic4tioll \" till.. d out, il it "iqn..d correctly,

21 il t.h. 4ir qu..lity moaelinq .. tt4ched.

22 II th..r. 1.. !Iomethil'lq lIli.linq, ulu41iy ...

23 II\4k.. COllt4Ct ..ith thll lourc...nd th.y ..iIi .uppiy th ..t

24 to u.. , 10, .ctu..iiy, th.re il u"u.. 11y 1'10 Itoppil'lq the

2.!> cloc.. , pIlE Ie, bI.lt doe. thdt .nl"er your que!i'tlon?

I HR. KAIl.TI"U· It I lII"y, on. ot the

2 thinql I I'IlIed to point out, .lId thil ii, you kno.. , v.

3 fO! .. l th.. t thi. i ... t .. r IIIOr••illlpli.tlc appr04ch to

4 the tee ..na the pemlit connection, it you ..ill, .. nd

.!> lh.. re...on tor th.. t il tMt v. "'uicdiy .1JIIp1ity the

6 pro<:eu and b4l1colliy put a pric. 011 ..h .. t the

1 ..ppiic4tion ii, .0 it you ar" 4 dry cie .. n.r, thil 11

8 ..h4t ..e are qoinq to charq. you, you 1I::nov, unrii thi.

9 requ1ltloll 11 modi[1ed, 4Jld you pay up tront.

iO It il .11111 ..r to 4 llc.ndnq te. blcau•• vh4t

il it do... , you ..no.. , ve do r ..vi.v the ..pplication ..nd ..e

12 ..re b,uic..liy 'Oloinq to iuu....uthority to conl~~uct

i3 for th4t p ..rtLcui.. r "it...

I at the fut..lt pemlttlnq procen.lI 10Iithill the !!IlItire

2 reqlol'l, .. nd I _an !PI\ R"'Olioll 6.

) TOU kno.. , "n ..udit 11 donll ..ithin ali the

4 !\'tat......Ithin Reqlon 6 and bae1cllly iuu.d IIlOlIt of

5 <:'Iur perllllt" ..J.thln ~h ..l 90 d.. y,.' tl",e period, ""

6 cOlllp..r ..d to th.. St.. t. of !I." H••ico ..h..re a v..ry. very

1 lov perc.ntaq. III illlued ..Ithlh lhlt till\O! fr....e Ind

8 th.. t II bec..u •••• try to tt<jure OUt ....y. to lIimplify

9 th.. proce••, 4nd 1I0 p.opl. kno.. up tront ..h.. t I:h.y

IG h..v'! to do in order to de.. l ..lth Us.

11 1Ino>:.h.. r ill!lu" th.. t need!! to b.. poillted out on

12 thill ..hole illllUO of ..hy "e &te <joinq to the , ..e up

13 trant, 4nd th4t i'" It ...."p,. u. trOlll b.in'Ol bill

14 coUector~. Th.....y th.. t the city proces. I),luically

U ..or"" II th.. t th..y lIutnit the 4pp1iclt.l.OIl.

16 "0", ..e i ...u....n invoice, .. nd, then, thlt

17 '1<:'1'" to the tr....ury d.p.. rtlll.l'lt. What h ..ppen... t the

18 trea'llry departl'l.lIt Is thlt then th..y vill illllue an

19 invoic••ithill 3G, 45 d"yll th.t they 'let it, ..nd,

2G then, it qoel (lut, Ind, then, "h.. t hlppenl il that ".

21 don't really q.t ..ny lIenl. of ..hell thlt tee ..al

22 ..ctuIUy lul:uitt.d to city tr."lury untii, you "no..,

23 month.. i ..t.r....OIIIetilllOl it ..ill be up to lIill,

24 901!l.tillll!' even .. y• .-r, ..nd .0 th." ..h.t hlppelll ..fter

25 "y.lr, "e r.diize th.. t the !lourc." h..ve not p.. id, .. nd

I "e do h4ve 4 lo!- of th .. t, 4nd I q4V. you that copy of

2 ..hIt ......Ctllllly t>lll.d and vhlt .... I coll..cted, 110

J t.h.n ..holt hlppen... t th.t point, it t.kel .bout --

4 sOllet1Jll.1 it viii t ..ke up to ...eyen month... befor.....

5 re"liz. that tlle source I'll. 1I0t paid, ..nd, then, sO v.

6 h4V. to brinq In enforcellent .ction Ind that'l ..

1 l.v.. n~llIOnth ..nforCelllent 4ction, if you viii.

8 Wh.. t .... "r. uyinq nov, thi9 i. the bill, pay

9 it no.. , that 9tlrtl Our r ..vi.... proc.llI, .. nd, then, .. t

iO le41t frail th.. t ..drlin.l ... tr4tive ..Ipect, v ...re don.

11 vith th .. t and there is not 4n .nforcement ..etlon, 4t

H ie"lt on th.. t pArt o~ it, 10 It dO"1 dllpllfy thl

13 prOc.... 11 quit... bit.

15 qoinq to i, th4t i. qoinq to 4n .ttort, unit effort,

16 it you ..11i, th.. t the .n'ilin...r buicdiy q.tl the

11 appiic4tioll ..nd they d.termine 1'10" h ..rd th.. t

111 ..pplic.tion V"., ..nd, then, th.. t's how th.y ~t.rllIin.

19 the fe...

20 Nov, ve d..cided not to 'olo to th4t 4nd

21 b4dC411y B4y up tront uThi' i. qoinq to be the

22 pric.. ," vhich, "'lain, cOlBpar.. tiv..ly, T c"n ql,W.rantllll

23 you, it', f4r iover than &:nythlnq .. round. thJ., reqlon.

24 Another thill9 that l'il point out, ... rar 41

25 the 90 d"YI, v .. dO h.ve the ralt.elt -- you 1I::110V, one

16 q .. t 1'111 permit1

11 MR. KAIl.TiN£!: Typic..lly, vi thin 4 f ...

i8 ..".11::. or the .nd of the --

19 MR. 9ILV!.JlMllt.N: Hov do.. 1 nil ;.t it

2G phylic.. lly1

21 MR. !'YUlTiNEZ: Throu'Olh cllrtit1.d lIl..ll,

22 typic411y.

23 HR.5I1NEllMH: Nell, ..hy couie1n't the

24 4ppiic4nt, vh..n it's ..il proc.1J11ed, It'l 41i done,

25 It's 411 re..dy, e1l!1ply COllo. d(lvn, pIck up the p41Cl111t,

" No.. , on. ot tll. thinql til4t the et.. t. 11 "

"

THE ME1II'IING OFFICER: Hr. SHv.man?

HR. SlINEllMH: When do... the .. ppllc ..nt

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I ~ho .. you hi. I:ecelpt tor the r••s?

2 HR. J1I',RTIME2" \11"11. 4CtU411y, that'.

) 'O/W1Ohl:'lq that they woUld hAY" to do. When they

4 ,ublllit the applIcation, ..fit get .. receipt that the tee

hoi. Ilr.....dy r.ee.. lent.

6 HR. 5ILVE.RMAII: 50 IoIhy c4n't they

-, eltchotnge .. copy ot tt.4t tec:elpt tOI: the petlll1 t when

B you are through tooiing With it.? Il.r,d. than, that

9 .11",1"4t8& all the bill collectIng.

10 MR. HARTlIOEZ: The.. we would have to go

11 bact oIr.d lIIadlty the reg bec4uee then we "I'e qoing to

12 be hOlding up the ~t/l.lt uotH paymttM. 1& lIIade.

J) HR. SILIIERMJrI: You .. O:e doIng that

\4 .."y....)'.

15 1'Ul. l1AR'l'lNE2.: ""tu411y, you know, IoIhat

16 we an aakln9 for 11 tor the ..ppl1c...Uon review to be

11 up tront. The pel."lllit basIcally c.,..._. trolll that. you

18 know.

19 HR. SILVE.RKAII: so now the application

20 review tee Is the tull "'lIlount at the penllit. right?

21 MR. HARTIn'l: !t'l the tull oItIlount th.. t

22 -~ the ..pplic..tlon rev Ie... tee. c:orrect.

23 THE HZAP.UIG; OFTICI:R: Ok..y. Any other

:it queltlon~l

" MR. SHITH: Hay I ju.t ..dd to that?

1 MR. MARTIIIIIU: That would M under this

;{ current lev.l. 1 mean. the ch.ngel ..r. not qoing to

3 be "lqnltic..nt to !!lOSt. at the sources th.t ..r. out

4 ther., and I think that needs to bl!l cle..r. you kno••

.'> "e h.. v.. done a Jot or -- to try to si.-pHry the

6 particular req, you kno., ..e have dOll-I! a lot to try to

1 lack at loIh.. t, you kno.. , .... can do to ensure th.. t there

8 is 5IOIIIe .....1.s10n r.ducLions.

9 U ther.. is no ielion r"ductioM', ..e 1oI.nt

iO to lII.. ke lIur.. th.. t okay, r" .l.... y. qoing to count

lion the r"ct that th.t r..cllity uRed the m.... but Lt

12 doe"n't chanqe that llIuch.

13 I m....n. the gener..,ed lunds In thl.

14 p4rt1cul.. r chanqe i .. not qoir.q to be th..t lubllt..nti..l,

U ..I Hike pointed out. I me.n ...e Ire still goinq to

16 depend on the otherl, bUt, 1 lIle"n, the idea 19 th.. t

i7 the qenfltr.l puhiic hal to p"y tor the .uto elllissions

18 progr.1II ..lr...dy. you kno... th.. t equ.tel to about 51

19 mIllIon. loIhlch, rlqht no., it'l .bout, you kno... our

20 curr.nt budqet 11 about 52 mii110n .nd that's

21 ba'ic.lly all "e are tryinq to m.ke lUlt to cover

22 eapense., 10 the q..ner.l public: 11 ..lre"'dy paylnq

23 thr_ tin...s the oItIlount th"'t -- ..ctually "'ore than

24 that. you kno... th..n our current bUdqet Is, and 10 not

25 only th.. t they .re p.ylnq for hal! or the ir.dulttlal

P.g. 69

1 THE HElIRIHG OFFICER: Yel.

2 HR. SHITH: Me do have buelnelles th.. t

J cOIle 1n to st..rt per1llit!l...nd. then, !ltop. ok..y.

4 bec.ule at ...h.tever rhe c.le may llll. the 1Il0ney dried

up, they ...eren't belnq ..eil-recelved and vh.. tever they

6 ..er9 qoinq to b9 blll.-d. and ie it then tlllr tor the

7 divhion ro h.ve qon9 throuqh .11 th.t ..ark .nd

, ettort?

9 MIL SILVERKAJf: Th.t'e vhy you are

10 c.lled pw,llc serv..ntl.

11 MR.. SHITH: 1'111 lorry, Ht. SllverJIW.n,

12 th..t·e ..n unf.lr It..t_ent.

\] MR. HART[HI:2.: It 1 m.ay. that iuue, one

14 of the t ..Ctl that you h..ve to underlt.nd 1,. th .. t

I.'> currently, tor thh proc918. the t",ap.yere pick up

16 1Il0lt or the progralll. eVen ..ldl the n.... te.. ch4ngel.

i1 the t ..ap.yerl buic..lly pick u.p .'>0 percent ot thflt

18 proqr4/ll .nd th",r 11 thtough the qto.. 1 tec..lpt t4Jlee.

19 Feder..l fundinq equ..tel to .bout 20 percent,

20 ..ve" .ith the ch..nq.I, vh.t the pCIr1111tted loutcel

21 contribute to maybe runninq the ptoqr_ 11 about JO

22 petcent.

2J I _an, you kno. --

24 DR. PlLOII": lind th..t·1 the cuttent

25 ptoqr....l

I sourc. p..rm1rtinq proqroltll. and, you Iu'lo.. , "e .re

2 rryinq to I114kc rhis .s .quit.ble .1 POUlblc, you

J kno.., short at just b••ic..lly gettinq rId or rhe

4 proqroltll II • "hole, ..hlch tee"'lly doeln' t chAnqe

5 .nything requl..torlly, ",nd it .... ke. it ..ven IIOrll. tor

6 the Indultry ..nd the f!conOll\Y beCAUI. then "e don't run

1 it, the ledl run it... nd 1 qu.r..nta. you th.. tedl

8 ..r.n't going to run it loIith 52 lIIiillon, there'l "0

9 ....y, but ..e h..ve cre.. t.,.d Incentlvee ..nd proqr..rlll to

10 reduce plUI, Ill! have cre.. ted proqr..lIIe th.t .llo.. the

II r..cllity to tak.. c:redl t for the qood thinql they do

12 within theIr t.cility ..nd be .bl. to Ulle those

13 emissions for sometnln~ p.lll". we h.ve cre.ted proqr4lll1

I~ th.t alIa.. the f ..cllity to modity cert.in thinqs, .nd.

I.'> .q.ln. you kno... teder.l 1....ilov. 11I.odlfic.. tions in

16 c.le of n.tlon.i e11l.erq..ncy, 1I0 th.. t'll cov.. red thar...

17 but, ..q.in. still .t this point, even ..lth the

i8 chanqel, you kr,o.., tor the lndu ..trial lource

19 pemlittinq proqroltll. thflt qrolll receipt. t ..a nUi pIck

20 up 50 perc.. nt of th.t proqr4ll'l, you kno.., f ..cilities

21 Indultry is oniy picl:inq up 30 percent ..till••nd ..0 i

22 ju.t 1oI.nt to 11I.ak.. sure that we k..ep th.t in lIlind, rhar

2J il dle ...on.. y dOel'" t cOlll.e trOlll 10owlolhere, then ve .re

24 qolnq ro h.ve to go to dle taxp4yerlll ..nd that' I not a

25 very qoOd thinq UJ do. I .......n, in Illy opinion. vhen ....

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I are alE".,dy peyinq ro~ • lub'llntlal .-aunt or til..

2 O"<I'E"I11 dE" quallty peDll.ittl119 proqr&IU and 41t

3 q'.ldlt., protectlon proqr.,..•.

4 TIlB H!tN\IIIG Of'f'fC'!.R: O••y. Thank you,

!I 1'Ir. 1(4"'l1nl".

I'll thi, ~- ME". S11vlrnloUll

MR. SII.v&I\JIUl,N: I n ••4 to ieevII .lId T

B jUll ...nt to "poloq!... lOa the lI.eltlberl of the public

9 U14t I won't be able to perlon.ally 11 ....1: theil:

10 [.ll1...ony, but ! do hAye anomer COIIIIIllmllftl that 1

11 need to qet to.

12 I wUl I:"...d lOlle tranecrlpt ..nd I 411U11l1i1 Wll

13 are not votinq on tllb tonlqht lince "e dld.1\' t have ..

U quae""'.

15 TilE HEARING OFFICER: That', corrnc:t,

16 It'll not On the aqerl.Cl& o~ the board thl. llvllnlnq.

11 MR. 5II.VERMJIN: [thouqht it ..,aa.

11 TIlB HEARING OFFICIIoR: 1t ..,n, but It'.

19 been ,"oY<i'd.

20 MR. 51UTII: w...ere 901nq to uk thAt

21 the h••rlnq record be open for r...a ....kl.

22 THE Il!.ARIIIG OFFlC'ER: I IUSpeCl lr. "Ul

23 be an thl nnt.

24 MR. 8II.IfI!:RMAH' I..,. our. at r.o..n thl

2~ lair. ".Ik at F.bruary.

1 MR. SMITH: Will, jult th.. h....rlnq

2 r.cord ..Ul be hlld open until the 26th...nd, th..n... t

3 tlte reqularly 'ch.dul.d II1r Ik>..rd _.tlnq. we ..111

4 h.. ", .. dl.cuilion and "ot. on It.

S THE HUdl.llfG OFFICBR: _IKt bo..rd

, 1Il'.tlnq7

7 MR. StLYKRMMI: That'l rin•.

a THlt H2AR1NG OFFIC1!.R: Thank you, Mr.

9 511".rJlIan.

10 MR. SILYIUtAAIf: Ply ,paloqle, to Illy ather

11 board IIIeft\bIrs.

12 THE H!tN\IlfG OFFICER: lit thh t.1Jll., thh

13 portion at the h.arln., ..111 no" b. -~ any IIleIIlber at

14 the publlc may .t.p tarth alld alk qu.ltloni or the

l!l- Cltl.1 ltaB U.,.. rdlnq thll propoI.d detail

16 repl.cem.nt at pert 2 at the r.QI.Ilatlonll In oth.r

17 'IfOrdl, :IUlt 11ke the A.1r QU.aU ty B04C'11 ~CI It.".

18 a.ked the Itatt qulatiolII. any 1II11'11toer at the public

19 lII.4y st,p torv.rd. ::IUlt It.te your n_ 4Jld you c:an .ak

20 Mr. 51'11th, Mr. Martlll", .-DIre at the city ataU

21 qu,.t1onl.

22 You canllot 'ill"e telt1.ftl,ollY, th.t·1 a dlt~er.nt

23 portloll of thh publlc hllrln'il; rath.r. 0111 11 lult

24 your opporr.unity if you h ..". qWl!ltlolll about th,

ZS re'ilulatlon and ",r. IllI.IOl'I aad ",r. Martin••'

P.q. 13

1 r.eu.lmollll!l, you may ItlP for..ard and alk thl!lll

2 qu.,r.iOnl.

3 50 if allybody tronl th. pUblic ..auld like r.o

4 do 10. pllall Itep far..ard r.o r.he IIIic:rophonl.

THE HEARING OFFICER: St..tl!' your n_.

TH!. HEARHIG OFFtCER: :t••, lic.

9 MR. GRANOJE.'IIiI: J h .." •• qUI.tion

10 concernlnq the alb••to. portion, .nd 1 undlr.tand

11 thlr. I. qalnq to be lome adlrllnlstrat!". fe •••nd I _

lZ not lure ho.. the ad>lilll.tr.tl"l teel .re qolnq La ..ark

13 and.u they qainq to b., you know, tor Inlpec:tlonl,

14 for ...ddltional InlpeCtlon. or tor allY of thos.. kind of

15 lhlnqs?

16 Ho.. do... that work?

11 MR. SMItH: I ..... lorry1

11 MR. JlUUl.TlNEt: Th. adolinlll'tEath'l t•••,

19 wh.. t Mr. S/llth mentlonld, ad>llnhUatlve te.I, It'l

20 thillql that .ra r ..latld to photocopylnq ....k1I1q. you

Zl kno", 'OlIIetl_1 we It.". requ'lti.

22 I ..111 qivi you. qr.at ••_pl.: Thl

23 Ponderola Pine Potterl HIe. that'l Ilkl 118 dr..... rll'.

Hand 10 th.. tillli it t.kes for 1,,11 to make tllOI. c:opi.1

25 and run th.. t, ..hat he 11 t.t"rrlllq to, lIat anythinq

1 r.l.. ted to in,plctio,",1 al far al the ••beltO. proqr_

2 is conc:.rned, there ar. no chaDq•• from the previous

3 r.qulatlon ..lth the Sltc.ption at maklnq lur" that

4 p4}'1l1lnt II .tt..ch..d to the application, th.t 19 the

S allly c:hanq. th4t ..... propal.d toC" th.t.

, "It. GRANDJ'!IIN: Ok"y. Thank you.

1 THE HEMING OFFICER: Plea., It.t. your

an_e.

9 "IlL CIllUDILI.: ",y n_ 11 I.4rry caUdill.

10 1 11118 .t U1!lI Watercrllt ud I v.nt to uk a Ipec:1t1e

11 queltion about 01. rl.. tor surfaC:I dl.. turbanci

12 perJlliu.

13 THE HEIIRIHG OFFICER: Pleal. proe".d.

H KIt. CIIUDILI.: I no tic. thor...as no

15 mentIon of .ny ......I111n., 01 r••1 or 1._ptlol\1 or rate

L' .tructur., ..hat.lI.r, for publlc proj.ctll, .nd otten,

11 the r"81 .r.....lll.d b.cau'8 It t.k"l mon.y In on.

19 dlp..rtlllent and put. It Into anoth.r, .. nd I 411I :lUll

19 curlou. 81 to the st.pI or .ct101l to -~ did OI'y

20 c:onatder th:ll, and it not, ..hy not; or it rh,y did

2L consider It...hy ...1 It not -~

22 "It. Sl'IITH: We don't propal. to ...ill.

23 any t.1 tor public orq.nlltltlon., nor do "e ..alvi .ay

24 tea tor pe"ll'l\1ttlnq, for ..h.t :It COIIU for a public:

25 or.,.nlzltlonl let'. lay the public ..orks dipartlll8nt or

1'a.,. 7S

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20 afte~ h.vlnq DPeIl t1~lIt duly IIIworll under oath,

24 HR. CAUDILL: A",.ln. Illy co,w",.nts .~e

2~ specIfIc to t.he lu~rac.. dllturb.nc.. pe~lII1ttlnq f ..

I~ .... t ..rcre.t. NorthIl4't.. Albuqllerqull, We.. Me.leo, 91113.

16 THE 1l!.J\IlIMlO OFF!C~R: aetore you beqln,

11 H~. CaudIll, now th.t yOIl nave qlven tellt\.mOny, plea!!.e

18 be ....o~n.

1 You Cln de.l with • 2~-.cre site ~e"obablr

2 welL H you double th.. s11e of th.t dte to ~O

J acre., the r.te of erosIon, <lnd, therefore. the

4 quantIty ot .. lrborne p.rtleulILe.. lncrel.eS

S q"lXIletrlcally. It'••t le.... t tour ti_8 II bold I' a

6 2~-ac~e ,it.. , so whit we 9hould be 100l<inq .t U we

1 wlnt to eftect I chlnqll In lir qull1ty 18 that • pl~t

8 of the penll\ ttinq proceslII would be slXIle IncentIve to

'} reauce ~h.. total act..s dillturbed It ..ny One tim.. in

10 .. ny on.. pl:ojeC1-. 90 I would ,uqqelt thlt there be In

II e9cllatlng t .... Ilch..aule tor elch 25-lcre Incr....."nt and

12 that It ,.hould hasl<:.lly qo up. perh.pll even dOuble.

13 with elch incrl!fllent~ In other word". U It'l 5100 [or

14 • 25-.Cl:e proj..ct. Lt would De 521)0 tor • ~O-acre

l~ project and 10 on.

16 There 19 ablolul..l y a ve~y dl~"ct <:orrelatiOn

11 In tUlU ot the qu.ntlty or the dust .nd the

11 dUticulty In de.Unq '11th It. An .dditlonal

19 .dvlnt.g.. here would be thlt thll would IIt1lo.1I1.te the

20 develo~..nt cCflllllunlty .nd thel~ englneeu to engIneer

21 projects tncrement.lly or In pha.e, that would .UoW

22 tor puttlnq a portlon of the job to b.d bdo~" they

23 al .... u~b the next portion. p~ojectl c.n be Inqlneer..d

24 Inc!;_ntal1y.

25 The tend""cy or "'oo:n.e o[ Oll~ tunnel viston

teltlf1ed !IIi' tallow.:

TilE Hl.Alltl\lG OP'P'tCl.R: Plea,e p~oceed,

"". CAUOiLL: L4u:y C4udlU, 49U "

"

"

23 .lr.

1 the tr".l./Ileht plant or. the l",ndfill alia wtle a I,.."jor

1 source and lhey aUt al'o requIred to pooy lee" so ..It

3 lemcee. lIould be required to pay teel, yes.

4 THI!: H!AilllfG. orncr;ll~ Do.. " any oth'H

"'..",b...· ot the public have any que:n;lons toc the city

, ,t.tl ..q ..rdlnq tne VPO repl...c:_ent ot part 2?

? Ok... y. At thh point, the he.u:lnq .. 111 now

9 shift to any indIvidual orqanlcu.Ian or publlc ",,,mb<tr

<} who .. l~t'h'" r.<l 'lb.'" t".tllllc>Ily reqardlnq the propcol,.."t:

10 In 'H.ller word., Ln f ..\lor o[ tnls rep... l and

11 r"pl",ce"uwr. pi...... stOlp for....rd and <llVe testimony

12 Aq."lh. Mr. Caud1Jl. pl..4l1e It.. te your full

13 nolllle.

P.qO! 19

I procel•• ana rot t_ho ... th.t I alii hot .. cqu.lnted '11th.

2 I would point out that ror 15 ye.rl. 1 dId th" dUlt

3 control work for t.he city of IUbuque~qu...lId ~o wh.t 1

• .sk .nd wh.t I sllY h.1 lo",e b ••ll in expe~1ence .nd

it'l froo:n. that poInt at vIew that I would r.lle the

6 [ollowlnq illu".: Firlt at all, 1 IUppo~t the tee

I Incr....e tor lervlce disturb.nce pltallltt1nq.

8 The clrcUlllt..r ..nc". the are. IInde~

9 consider.tl0n, Is In exce:u at 100lllilel, that'l how

10 lonq -- th.t'l the dllt.nC" .~ound r.he typlc.l " ..rvlce

11 .re. ~h.t 11 Involved. And In recent yeerlll. 'Sl8 end

12 '99, Ipproxll11.tely JOO peI1llltl wer.. 1111,1ed. 27:1 In

13 '98 .nd 295 In '99, 1 don't know what the tot.l w.1

14 In 2000, bllt th.t' I • ter~lUc work lo.d and Involves

15 "'n .wful lot. or ,t.tt. time .nd enerqy to ..ven begIn

16 to keep up wILn, .nd ro~ the tll11e th.t I ",.1 dOl'''l"

17 th.t, we did not n.Ve thll .ddltion...l IUPPO~t that

18 this ree Incre...e wOllld provide. "0 1 .". he.rtlly In

19 t.vor of ... t"e ~or thll wo~lI.

20 1 don't, howeve~, believe It qO"1 t.~

21 enouqh. As 1 '111.1 Illultrate for yOIl In the near

22 futu~e, elth.. th" next meetIng o~ the llleetlnQ: .ttll~

23 th.t, dependlnq on the pie.lure of the bo.~d, there I'

24 a very dl~ect correlatIon betWeen the III~e of the are.

2S dllturbed .nd ItI c ...p.clty to gener... te p...~ticlll.tee.

I enql""el9 III to .tt.ck tho world .t one wh.ck .. nd th.t.

2 Incrl!'..... the \nllulr. to the envirOlllllllnt and to the

J nOl1ghbon .1qnlflc.ntly. Thll would p~ovide .n

4 lncentlve to do thln"l In • lIIO~e relponslble w.y.

5 I WOuld point out that. nUlllber of proj..cts

Ii hav.. Involved this proc..... CottOnwood M.ll. Vb,:. Del

7 Marte, ..cent industrIal pd~ks In th.. nO~th portIon ot

8 th., city have be..n held ...nd the plt~mlttlng p~oc:esll to

9 ~equlr .. th.t. th..y not b.. allowed to dl.turb IIIore th.n

10 pdrh.PIII. gu.rte~ to • thi~d of th.. job at .ny cne

11 tllllOl just .s • condltlon o[ the per",lt.

12 Thirdly. the~e Iso no p~ovls10n ror pen...lty it

IJ the .ctu.1 disturb.nce are. exceed I th.t perlllitted .nd

14 on whIch the pe~ acre te.. il b.ued. It's very cOllllllOn

l~ to~. cont~.ctor to cOllle In .nd "et a penni t [or .n

16 .. c~...nd te.r up the acre next door. p.rklnq. d~:lvll1l:l.

17 sotacklnq dIrt pIle, III.t.. ~l.11 .nd .0 lo~th .nd ,,0 on,

18 110 T suqqest .s • dl51lncentlv.. to be very con5lerv.tive

19 in their esotllll<lte of the dl"turb.nce .re., that they

20 pay a doubled h" to~ .ny exceel beyond th.t which II

n orlQ:ln.Uy perlllitted.

22 £1 ther adj...cent o~ ~l!fIIOt.., ",h.t T _.n by

23 t,,",ote, suppose they .re brlllqlnq In dirt trOlll .nother

24 site o~ .tocllpiUnq dirt t~OIIl th..lr lit" ontO .noth..

2S parce1., It lII<ly be clear ...crOIIl town. they m.y not

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TH'" Hf.All.1MC: OffiCER, Any questlOh' by

! 1 m..ftlb'H8 ot t.hl'! b<lud?

\2 JoWllln.. r~ ot the "t.rt, .ny qu.~t1on. of IU.

13 c""dill?

22 I'IA. CAUDILL: Th.t·s COI!'.Ct. the re.51on

23 beinq th..t 011 the edqe of a dlllturblnq p.rcel. the

24 qr.at.r Lhe dl~t.nc. ble.....cro•• th.t "urlace. the

2!> IIICr.. the w.ve. build.

16 "cre. i, the Illlp.ct "I'd h IIW.ch "rr..o.l1er th..h .1' ar".

11 or:loO .cre•. NO.... obvloully. It yo" h.d 2~ one-p.rcel

L8 ..cr.... the llll~ct would bR much .lIIdller, 90 yo" ..re

19 ••ylnq th.t the blqqer th.. cOntlquo"••r ..., the lonqer

20 the l"PdCt even to!' th.. s_ number 01 .cro'.

21 dhturtledl

1'/11 DOrt'y, 5tev€1, '10 ahe.d.

DR. P1LON, 'to" ...y th.t "n .re. of 2:10

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2 tUlllble d. plled AI hlqh on thh o::lty bulidlllq

3 b"caua dj.cant land walln't "r.abUizad and 1t'"

4 di,turbe'd "I'd unr.ev"'qetated .nd ul\rll.",ed",d l.nd that

produc.' the weed'••qaln. a S1avlnqll to the city dhd a

(, benefit to the city that occun.

A. p.rt ot thh procell, [ "'111 prOvide

8 written t ...tllllClny .. ithLn th.t .p:!cUied tll'11O. and I

9 st..nd for qu."tlon".

I <:ollhdet thal in Uleic or1ql1141 p8rT111t and they

2 certaInly ,houid bee.ue.. It" all tied toqetner on ..

:; p.. "t of that one project.

4 .'lnally, nO ptovleloll Is ,ude for public

lector pro'.ctl In term. ot .. -- 10000e loct ot ..

(, different ree BcnedJ.Lle or vdvinq of r8811 or __thing

1 ot that lorl.

B If Ulan 1. to t.- ...1iding ecale tor

9 dlu.urballce e ..ceedlnq 25 acre., •• y, .nd that', not

10 lact at tnll ","""ent, bul : wOuld !Juqqelt that It b~

11 considered, thel\ there .houlo be '" provision lor

12 d".11nq With project. that Ice not 3peculet.lve In

13 nature ••ueh <I' Lndultr:lal pork" c...ldenUal 4"ealil,

14 9ubdlvl.loll1l .lId .0 forth, but Which are of I\ece.lillty

U inVOlving 10 _ny acre., e._pi... aiq I, tn..y didn't

16 have .. Whole lot of choice .bout th.. t one bec.u.e

11 th..t·. ju.t ho", blq the proj.ct "'••••0 th.re need. to

18 be "0.... cOI\"ldllr.tlon qlv.h to "p:!cul.. tlve dl"tuE"tI..nc.

19 ver9U. n.e••••ry dllturbanee.

20 So"'.thlnq thll:. 11 overlooked here. "I'd thl.

21 .... dl.eu.lled by "t.rt 11' t.nu of the probl.rII.. we .r.

22 e ..pedenclnq ..ith p.utleulate. preventlon. 1.

23 .bllolut.ly the but "'.y to deal ..ith airborh.

24 p..rtlcul..te. [rom ..011 dLlIturb.nee; th.retor•• thlnq.

2!> llke holdlnq down the .ize ot the .re. dl.llturbed,

I r..qulrlnq "t..bllh.tlon on eOlllpl.. tlon or !H..blllz.tlon

2 01'''1' Iner""'.ntinq b••l ••nd certdnly .Ubll1z.. tlon

3 or ....e.lll d19turb.ne••re•• th.t 1" th.t ..hleh 1. not

4 developed "I'd ju.. t lett behlnd••11 or th""e thlnq.

.ho'lid b.. eondd.red 11' the peIll.l ttlnq proee••••nd I

(, ",ould poillt Out th.t th..r ...r" • lot of other b.neUtl

1 to thl. proee"" .... ",ell. th.t 1 ...ould e.ll collateral

8 or Incidental beneUtl and the •• Incll1de thlnq. llke

9 tr..f£lc ••rety.

lO Tn t.rrll. 01 vl.lbillty. I h.ve ••en dirt Uov

II frOlll Ilte. ,,0 .everely that you ab.olutely eould not

12 lI.e beyond the hood orn.ur.ent of yOlu vehlcl.. Ttl.at

13 cre.t••••1qnHic.l\t accldent h"l.rd, "'hen .tr....t.

14 blo", tull of undo that un.d. hn to be pick.d up by

l~ 'CIIIlebody.

16 Recently. ir ha. baen the per.on ..ho c ..u.ed

11 the rile ... becau •• th.. t· ...h.. t·. requlr..d 11' the

18 per"'lt. Prior to that belng- Illlplemented, It wall

19 common for the city to t ..ke city equlplllent ..I\d clty

20 crew. to clean. up • lIIe •• created by the prlvat.

21 llector. 110 tho... co"t...ent to the public .t larqe .nd

22 th.t·••\.Jllply not riqht.

23 Another beneUt of .tatlili2atlon. would be to

24 covel;' th.... bar. area. wlth n.tive ve'l"t.tlon r.ther

2S than twnbleweedll. 1 quarantee you, thl" .pril\q,

1 The ..._ Lhlnq ..pplleil to movlnq ",..terl.l or

2 "",pended lo.d, It we .re t.lkinq wLnd, whlch 1••1'0,

3 you kno... th..'.· 51 • fluid worklnq On ••olld lIurt.ce a.

4 oppo.ed to .... t ..r. but •• thO'e partlcle ••re knoeked

:10 loo.e, ...ch one NOx 100... ftlore .nd th.t one NOa It.

, .h.r"'••o you _y h.v•• 11' t"ct, • loqarlthlft Incr"'.."e

1 11' lIovlnq /II.terl.l on • "lte ., you proceed acro•• It.

I ..nd.t.n "b.olute "'lnl"'ll/Il. ther.. 1, • qeDllletrlc

9 lncn.II••t leut £Our tillle. as dlrtlcult to de.l ..lth

LO bacau.e or .cceler.tad ero.lon r.te. and the 'In.tel'

11 volUII.e or .irborne ",.terl.l•••nd by -. It'. po••lble

12 to do thi. lnc!'......nt.lly.

13 If • quy ha" • 100 .cre ,ite he w.nt" to te.r

14 l1p, ",h.t·. wronq wIth. requlr_ellt th.t ••y. we ..111

1:10 'lIve you 2~ .cn••t .. tl_ and when you put th..t 2:10

16 to bed. you c.n do the lIaxt 2~1

Dll.. PILON' So ",h.t yo" are propoalnq 1.

18 .. ree !lcn.dule th.. t refl.elll th.t?

19 I'IA. CAUDILL, Not n..ce".arHy th.. whole

20 hundred ..cre •• bI.lt "'.ybe h. CO'\lld do It On • 2S-acre

21 rot.tlnq bolll". Th••"4llIple "'•• u.ed ot Vent.n..

2l ll..lIch. I can .".ure you th.t ..11 900 acl;'e51 h.ve IIOt

23 .lId vlll not be torll up, they do lt in p.rcel". an.d .0

24 he 1" not 100.1111\'1 ..t. you kl\ow. 590.000 in .. qlven

2:10 tiro. tl;'~. over the tot.l dev.. lo~nt or the

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v••, I would 4qr•• thll ltull'. the c •••• but

the thl1l9 v. don't con'ide, 1. the publ!c COlli

•• ",oclAted with hill tell...r. to control that IU.lerial,

cl."''' up ot the Itr••t., cl.",,, up or adjAcent

property, cl•• " up of drAin_qe work•.

"9&1n. I h.". qat IOIIUII did_. that ,,111

lllultrate tni. very qr&ptllc&lly. &. "r. 010na ..111

teatity. and I hope .....111 be "'ble to provide tho.e

to you 1n t.he 1'...... ~utur•.

THE HI!AAfNC Of'f'TCER: Je,o.nne?

1'(5. RA5SET1'~ 11111 your te_timony have

1II0ra. Bp"cHlcB about. .ellle11y how you WOuld do the tee

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do you 4qr..e with hI; IIleUlllent th"t the Bize Dr --

the 4ctuel .he o[ the peoject hu I I!qniUc4nt

imp..ct on the 4III.ount or pettleu14te 1Il4ttllr qenerated

by .. projec:ct1

I lIle..n, thet ~~ one-ecre projecte "re qolnq

to devdop Ie.. th4n one ~5-4cre projltCtl

MR. MARTINE!.: ActU4lly, Mr. Clud!ll'l

COlOnentl on bceic..Uy the dilper,ion or phylllc" full

of 4n "ree, cert..inly, 4 disturbed ere•• they ... re

correct...nd "e don't h4ve 4ny di...qre_ent ..ith th4t

p"rtlcul.r

I thinle th4t one of the thin'l' thet "e took

into conllder4tion 4nd ..e don't dl,.4qree ..ith. the

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Mit. CAUDILL: " ••, t.he ....., 1 propoilld it

16 vOl.lld be ... doubl1nq of re•• tor each iller_nt..

14 v"'iidity or h Yinq sort of 4 Ilidlnq ,c"ie. depend.nt

is on -~ you "'11.0 dependent On oLn 4ee4 di,turbed bec4U,.e

16 ye,., the ... I,. 4 hiqher illlpect.

" MS. RAS.":1'T: Rlqht, 10 YOll'11 qet LillO " you II.noe, .... h4ve h4d thi.

1B tholll detdll.

1'1 IG.. CAUDILL: 'Ie., lIle' &Ill, 4. tar &.

20 permittinq, time fe_e of the per/Illtl that weee

~i illued in '98 .nd '99, &lid I IU.peC't thet Mike "nd hi.

~~ cre" .ee hoidinq peetty much to the e'" nUlllbeel. We

23 turned cOlllpi.t.d pcl"llitl .eound in flve .nd 4 h.if to

24 11111 d4ye. th4t'l ..bout "I t.,t 41 ycu c"n get. pel"llit

~~ foe 4nything. toc:c ..nythinq. oLny..heee, ..nypi..ce.

I' proqr&lll in p14ce for, 48 Mr. C.udill pointld out, 15

ill y....... In 15 ye..... thll proqr_ buic"Uy h.. be.n

20 funded out of oth.r proqr4ll1 th4t h.ve eOllle in, 4q4in.

~1 out of bulc.ily t ...lIpcyerl' IIIDlley th4t COllIe. in. too,

~2 10 for 15 ye.rl. thi, proqr411 h.., not been funded 4t

23 ..il. thll 11 OUIo fil'lt te. th.t W., ler up for thil

24 proqr&lll.

~!1 r don't re.iiy -- you II.no.... 4e thinql ch.nq.,

15 T lIIe.II, th4t'l nothinq toe the city to be

16 4Ih""".d or foe 4 I.colld. I know that', noe tC'\le in

11 yeey 1Il4ny calel. but I """ not ee,pon,ibi.. for ..h.. t

18 other dep.rttMntl do.

19 DR. PILOIiI': An Ve ailo....d to lort of

20 alII. the city. the dep4rtrllllllt tOill.l, to relpond to ..h.t

21 he Ie ...ying, DC 11 tilat like in.pproprlltel

2~ THt: H.......ING O....lC8R: 11'0, you c"n ...k

~3 th. city if they h4Ye .ny respoll'. to Mr. C4udill'I

24 lIuqqe,tione or cOllllOiPnt•.

1 No... th4t'l cOlllpi.ted peClll1tl th4t don't h4ve

2 to qo b..cll. beC:C4ulle the Q'uy d1dt1't foiiow very c<llllpiete

3 lnlttuccion. on the b4ck of th. form; in othee ..oedl,

4 th.ee 11 v.ey llttie 11IC'\l1. toe tueninq in &II

S in..dequet. p4ck.q. bec.ue. chiC••ee Y.ey 'load

(; dieection. th.t tell you ell.ctiy wh.t to do .nd ..hy

1 it'l nqu.ie.d.

8 And 10 the nUlllben th.t J q.ye you roc

9 turn.. .-oUlld c1Jul on perraill rli.te to e.view....hich

10 inciud., .. alt. vllit. it'l Y.ey i.-port.nt to know

Ii ..hat' I .round th4t lite. wh.t it. qr.d. il ee14ti"e en

1~ .ueeoundinq property. thlnql ot thll lort. 4nd th.y

13 "ere Itill turned 4eound and tl'ult'l a pretty qood

1 C eecord.

" DR...ILOIiI: Do you quyl h.a". 4nytilinq --

l you II.no... ( dO Ie•• you tno.. , in ...nother flve. 10

ye41'1 tOI' this t ..e to chllnq.. b",'ed, you kno", all.

3 circUlllet.nC'lllI, but, you kno.. , lince it ill the flr,.t.

C ve .r. teyinq to nI.lI.e it ., 11IIIpie .,. pOleibl•.

5 lie do feei, you II.now, th.. t it ii, you II.no.. ,

6 qOinq frCllll p4yinq nothinq to dllturb .. tO~aere ,lte,

1 to payinq 5100 per each acre; th.t. in ill.U, LI •

8 dilllneelltiv., you 1uI0.. , 4J1d b,ule..liy, it requ.irel

9 that lIIuch effort.

10 You tno.. , if, indeed, you II.now. W. continu.

11 to I.e th. e""'. trendl th.t W. h.v•••'11. in tile palC

1~ Y.4r. of how lIluch loii V41 4etu.sily d!.turbotd. in on..

13 Ihot, you knov, if anythinq, 4t thil point, we ..iIi b.

14 ...1)11 to poulltiaiiy fund ...dditlon..l pereonnei to t ...lI.e

i5 e4re ot th"t, bUt. 4g.. 11l. I 1111411., I don't h...ve 4ny

i6 di,...qreellll.lltll ..ith Mr. C.udlll·1 cClnlllentl, you know,

17 bUt ..het ..e 4r. att_ptinq to do ..t thi. point i_. you

18 kno... beinq the firlt tee e,,"r In l~ ye..n d."eiop.d

i9 tor thll percieui4r proqr_, you tnov. en keep it al

~O .illlpie 41 "e e ...n. lI.eep it ... ,. etiii be ...bie to p4y,

21 4qllin, ..e &.til not qoinq to be able to p.l' foe tile

22 entit. proqr""" but Pill' ror th. m4jority of the

23 proqr&lll.

24 THE HEAIlHlG OFFICI!iRl The other t.hinq

~5 you C4n do. Dr. piion. beC4Ule thll r.COrd il beinq

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1 held open tor tloOO we@k., 19 one" Mr. Caudill IIUI:n1.tll

2 hi. "dllen .uqqlllllllionl, you can .Ik 1n .. board

3 ..e .. t1nq tor the city to relpolld, it that.'. your

4 desIre.

S Any oth.c queetion. by board lMIIben of Me.

6 Caudill?

? HemD8r. ot LhO atart, any qu...t.101\1 tor Hr.

II C.."dll1?

9 lUly metllber ot tn. public can Itep torward and

10 .. ~k qu"lIllonl or "." l;audlll at. tt'lll time it they 90

II clec1dC!.

12 HR. CAUDILL: H.ly I be dloloOed .. lind

14 THE HEAIl.ING OFI'"tCP.It.: Pl.... 910 do.

t5 Mit.. CAUDILL: Tho) Itated Intent ot' the

16 til.. ....I to d ....l 1001l1'1 our probl...... our qrowlng

11 probletl.1 1I1th particulate•. One 01' the bell ....y. to

18 do that 1. to reduc.. t.n....cUve dleturbane••re.. In ..

;:9 dIsturbance at any qlven lillle. and I pCOlIIlle Yol,l,

20 you'l1 s.:o.. that tl\11 Iprinq. I ha"e already leen It •

21 couple of tlmel on ,ome blg II,l,b<Uvll10nl on the ..e.t

22 lId....hlch I c.n 111I" clear .crOII to..n, thlll .vlraqe

23 Ilre of the p4rcel b.led on .ver..glll. of 10 of tho.e 15

2~ y....n, ye.. r In, year out, it ..ver..qel ..lrhln h.. lt an

25 .cre 1.0 10 .cre, per p"'.,.,lt, 10 lt you 1,11,1,,,, 30{\

1 p"'r..ltl In" y....r, you h ..v.. exp..rlenced 3,000

2 disturbed a"ro•• Ln th.t year Or IO/Tlething very clole

3 to J.t, and th.t I .. tne lTIO,t e([ectlve ..ay l:0 de.l ..lth

4 p.rtlcul.te. (~'0lII that source i. to .llllply reduc" th..

5 .lIIOunt of .ctive dilturbed .rl. open .nd un.t..blllltid

6 .t .ny ani tlllle.

1 I "auld poInt out th.. t you c.n qo In .nd

8 mulch ..nd It..billlEl an ar..., et~..ctivlly t.klng It out

9 of the b....e o~ t.h.. t ..hich reduce I blo.. ing p.rticul.. tel

10 ..nd It'l pul: to bed, yOIl C4Jl. forq.. t ..bout it, .nd.t

11 that poInt, then proc"..d to the nelt portion and you

12 could do the sarTl8 4llIOunr at' diltl,l,rbance ..t,

13 e"""tnti.ily, the '4llIe cost, bQt ..ltnout the

14 "nvlroMlent.i in.ult tn.. t .ccQlllp.&ni..e th.. l.rq.. r

15 p.rc"l dilturb.ncv.

16 TH.I!. H!.I\RING O'fTIC~R: Are you nO lonqer,

11 for l.ck of b..tt.. r t ..l1l\inoloqy, th.. dUlt conteol

1B Illoni torl

19 HR. CAUDILL' I r .. t.1red • year .go.

20 THE HEARIAG OFFiCER: I'IIl lorry to hear

21 th.t,

22 AA. CAUDILL: I "." too, it ...a.n't Illy

23 intent, but c.1rcumlt.ncel ch.nqed ..nd 1 dec.1ded it ....

24 the belt ~or ..e to hit l.h" (.(.11.

2~ THI: ~IAG OFnCCR: P'ine. I ..1Ih you

t ..IU.

2 lUly oth.. r quutioM of Hr. caudill?

::I And, as a fOr"",~ board ..e/ftber, 1 ..tll 'uggest.

4 to the other -- current b..,ard Illelllberl, I holve "orked

5 ...!th Hr. Caudill in the put, he h .. 'OIM! eu:l!ll"nt

6 educational and di.turblng .lides .nd photographl --

1 HS. BASSETT: Ho puo Intended.

8 THE HEAR.ING OFFIC~R., ~- of tile dun

9 contl'ol problellli .nd I think .t anoLher UIll", .... can

10 .rr.nge [or Hr. Sn,jlh to have Ht. C.udlll give you.

11 prllentat.J,on.

12 HIL CAUOIJ.l..: Th.nk you, Hr. Cha!rlllan,

13 roc tho,,, kind co_nt.. tt' g Illy lntentl.on -- I

14 lIlentloned '_hls • couple lIlonth. ago ..nd J ...., qolng Lo

15 do It ne.., but they lndlcat"d th..re .... to be •

16 h...rlnq thl. IllOllth, .0 Illy Intent 1. to requell ••lOL

11 on the .gend. for nellt lIlont.h'. lll"etinq.

18 It ..111 be th" h...rt of thl dUlt leason,

19 so~c.lled .. indy U.lon, 10 It ..ill be timely,

20 InfoC1l\4tlv...nd hlqhly "duc.tlon.l, I pronlle you.

21 TilE HEARIHG OFFIC~R, Th.nk you, Hr.

22 Caudl.ll, It'l .l....yl • pl".sure, your teltidony, .ntl,

23 ..150, al Illy fOrTTIer hiqh "chool biology te..cher .nd

24 fOl1l\er hign Ichool tenni. co..ch, It'l .l..ayl ..

25 plla.uce to 3e" yOQ .galn.

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1 Th"'nk you.

.2 HR. CAUDII,L: Th..nk you, Hr. Hearing

3 OffIcer, ( dldo't kno.. I ....t golnq to h.vlII luch qood

4 Influence on hllll ro blCOlllll .. la..yer, I hope th.. t'll

5 qood influ"nce.

THE HEARING OFFICER: Md.ybe you lIhould

7 have taugnt Ille to pl ..y better tQnni•.

9 All rIght. Doel <IIny o~h"r IndivIdUal or

9 org.ni~at10n ..11h to .tep for... rd .nd \11ve tllllti"ony

10 in ravor ot th1l repe"l ..ndfor repl.ce....nt of part 21

11 lr so, pleale .tep for...rd and qive t"ltllTIOny.

12 Ok.y. NO.., ..I wIll qO to th.. tun part. we

13 .re b.ck on the record .g",in, It'l rive Illinute. arter

l' "{\O .nd "" ..iIi no.. proceld ..ith t.he nllt pn••e or

15 the he.rinq, ..nich Is tho",,, Individu.l, .nd/or

16 orq.ni~.tionl ..hO ..Ish to qiv" telt1JllOny to the bo..rd

17 r"g..rding the oppo.ltlon or the repe ..l or r ..pi.c_nt

18 ot part 2, 1 ..oQld .111. you to It..p fOnl..rd ..nd glv..

19 tl"tilllony. Ther" ill • sign~Qp .h"et., bUt T don't

20 b"lieve ..e need to \10 in ord"r of the 11qn-up Ih"et,

2i 1Ullt CO/TII on fOnl.rd .nd giv.. your n""'.., be ....Orn in,

22 giv.. your t.e1t111lony.

23 Pie...... lIt.. te your n_e, Qlr.

24 KIl. au HOND: Hl.11;.. du Hond.

25 THE HEARING OffiCER.: 00 you r"prulnt

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9 THE HEARIMG OFFICER: Could you pleu..

10 '11\1" your pcoto",donal .dd".... beroce you be'lln your

1 .. n o"'14nlIoltlonl

2 KIlo. du MONO: I reprOl• .,nt 5,,"0:1:1 ..

) Natlo"d L4ncoratorle •.

4 THE HrAkllfG OFFIceR: Ollay. E'l ......

ral.e your rtqht hand ."d be _voen.

f> MIll!. <lu HONO

7 .ner ha"inq been tlCet duly ....orn under oath,

B till titled •• rollo",.. :

II

12

t ...tb,ony, tir.

MR. dll MOIfO: Ye., Illy .addrl., I, POlt

I Bouley..rd, Southe.,t, loIhich 19 1I1tu41.ed in the eol,tern

2 portion at KIrtland "'ir Force B0I9" .cro•• the street

J frlllll th..... tlllllic NIl.ell"'.

4 Elthlblt 1 h • lII"p qivlllq the bound.rl.e. of

5 the Air Force boll"e ..lid thll IItftollll plant's locatIon

6 reloltlve to I:he e ••t ",ount.. l" cotlllllunity oInd dOllntololl1

1 ... lbUq\lerqlle" .

1I ElthLblt 2 ill • photoqraph of the .te.", pl.nt

91 looklnq north, ..ltll the tnree !RIIaller unit., boilen

10 I, 2 .nd J, on the lett, .nd th.. t ..o l.rqer unit.,

11 boller. 5 .nd 6, on the rlqhl. Boiler nurr.ber 4 "01..

12 r.llloved In 2000.

IJ otflce I'ox !lIOO, Albuquerque, Nelol Helleo, zip code

I' 87185·1042

15 THE HEARllfG On"leER: Plene proceed.

16 Hr. du Mond.

KR. du HONO: Cood e""nlnq, my"..... 111

TfiE fll!:AIUNG OFFICER: C.. n 1 .top yo" for

14 .. quick ..econd, Hr. dU Hond. 1 .poloqil•.

i~ ...re you 90in<;1 to plac. thue er.hiblt. Into

16 ev\dencel

HR. dll HONO: ~e" 1 .m.

lit Mlk. du Hand, I ai'll oUl _ploy... or SandI.. Corporation

19 or 54"dl... My cu",,,ent re.ponelbl11tlell are •• pro1ect

20 leader ot the de q\lal1ty cOllIpllance toe_ at sand14

21 National Lab<lcatorl...JN_ Kelleo, locolted out at

22 JC.lnl.nd AIr Force !k.e.

18 TH.r. HEARING OFFICER: Ho.. "'.. ny exhibit9

19 do you h.ve?

2J S.. ndl.. 1 ... re ....rch oInd developMlnt

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22 proceed.

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HR. dU HONO: SIx In tot.l.

THE HEARING OFFICf'.R: I'm ,orry, ple.se

HR. du I'lONO' The lite..... plolnt III DOE'II

24 lolboratory owned by the United Stoltel O'liIp4rtrrll!nt of

2~ En.rqy .nd operated by S.nd1ol. for DOl!:.

J ! .... h.re t04ol.y to .h.re IIlth you our vlell of

2 the ...port.. nce .nd po.ltiv. Illlp.ol.ct or ret.lnlnq the

J .nnuoll "",11.10111 loventory provl.lon of '!'ltl.. 20,

4 Ch.pter 11, PoIrt 02, peI1l.1t ree., ot the boerd'. 0I1r

qu.llty control requloltlon•.

6 Ii. belIeve tholt rel'llOvlnq the provll1on "1.11

1 holve 01. neqoltive fOftect on our oper.tloh'. A.

II currently prOlllu1901ted, the provl,lon .. 11011' .n .. nnuoll

9 .cCountln9 or e1ll18110n. alld provIde. 4 me411, tor

10 SoIlIdlol 1:0 1111plel1lenl: pollutIon preventIon or p-2

11 oIctivltle. to reduce .ct.uoll _1••10n•.

12 S.nd14 .. the prl",. controlctor to DOE 11

1J re.ponll1ble tor re.eolrch .lId deVlllop:llllnt !lupporl:ln9

14 natlonoll ,ecurl.ty Int.relt•. In .upport ot t.hll

15 IIIl,.lon, S4ndl,' I .te..... pl..nt !luppll•• oIn oIv",r0lge 1.5

16 11I1111on pound. per d.y of .00turolted It• ..,.. tor .polce

11 he.tln9 and l.boratory prooe ••e. tor 9..ndl.'.

III technlc..l "'re. one .nd an eol.tern portIon ot JC.lttlo1nd

19 AIr Force BoI.e.

20 The prlr...ry tuel II n.t.ur.l 901.. "lth dle ..,l

21 fuel for bolCkup, The flYe boller. rallqe In r.ted

22 cap4clty troll. 60,000 te UO,OOO pound. at .team per

23 hour. The .te..", plolllt h.1 been In contlnuou.

24 operatIon .1nce 1949.

25 S....dla'. Il:e.. pl.... t 1.7 10cat.d alon9 WyOllllnq

24 l.t"q••t .ource at .ir _inIon. oIl1d h•• the pot"nrl.. l

25 at beln'l • IIIoI.jor source un<l"r the Cl".n Alr "'ct' II

l fltle v operatinq pem!t pEO<;1rollll.

2 ... 'tJtle V op,oroltlnq permit "'ppllcoltlon II"

J i1Ui'ftltt.d to the City o~ Albuquerque on H..rch I.t,

4 19916 .nd the .ppllc.tion "01.. deemed cOlllplete on Kay

" ht, 19196.

6 An upd.ted "p~llcoltlon ..... c.qu.lIted by the

1 cIty oInd re.ublnltted on Februolry 23rd, t998.

9 The exl.. tlnq provillion .... foUnd .. t part 02,

91 SectIon 2.4F oInd r"oIdl: ""'" oInnu.l ..mllliion.

10 Inventory "'.y be "ubnltted for rev Ie.. by thOl

11 dep..rtment tor the purpole ot ..nn"..l tee oIdjustment•.

12 Thl••hol11 be restricted to 1I0urce...lth eetolbUlh..d

IJ penllit .. lloll..ble eml".lon rolte. or .ourceg ..hlch h.v.

It .ubnlltted a tl/1l.. 1y permit ..pplic.tlon pur,u.nt to E'.rt

1!1 42, SectIon 1 2.2A 2.

16 "The "",1,,"10nl inventorle••hall be "u1'ftlt.ted

11 to the dep.t.runent. by no l .. ter th4n June lit, 191911 oInd

18 by April lilt e4ch year thereol~!;er for revl_

19 condder.t:lon for every ye.r .•n .djulltJllent 11 ,0u<;1ht.

20 ~lf1thl11 30 dolyil ot receIpt, the dep.t.rt.lll.. nt

21 ..Ill bIll o:.h.. lourae tor tho rev Ie.. puc,u..nt to T.bl.

22 One of thi, p.rt. ...ny .dju.un.ntll to the 1I0urce'.

23 pemltted. or other.. 1I0I e.tabll.hed erll1.lion fe...h.l1

24 be Incorporolt.d 4nd .djulted alld billed In .ccordolnce

25 ..ith the bulldll1q ,ch.d"le prov1l10ru ot thi. p.t.rt."

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1 Thh provision beC6lII111 eUect-h_ on "'.y lOth, 1991.

2 ExhlIllt J 1.1 .. u.bllll ot S..nd1..•• sum.hlliou

] ..nder t.Jlt...nnUAl ,,",llldon. inventory prOYi.lon. The

, tint colUlM III the calend"r V•• " in which ttl_ ..nnll&l

5 _Iuionl ...re inventorIed be91nnlnq Ln 1991 with ..

, calendar: ye." 2000 _181111001 to be lIumltUid by Apd1

7 1, 2001.

8 The 9"c;00d c:oll.JlTVl 14 Sandl&' III ActuAL

9 Inventory reported tor tllt-t y...r with t.h.....jo"1ty ot

10 th.. e..l.donlJ frolll t.he lIlO4lll pit-ot and only a te.. toni

11 per ';'''4'' trDlll the IlandIly 011" ••1 9..0.. ""'lor po.... "

12 plant.

tJ The thIrd C:OlUlM 1. the annua. Tille V te..

14 calculated f'-clll ttl" aClual _l.lIlons In colUlllll tllO

!!> t111lea 531 per lon.

l' Ttl.. tourth cOlUIVI 11 the 5l,OOO tee trOlll patt

11 02', Tatlie L tee n~r 7, ..nnuAl 811111&'10nll inventoty

111 tevl.v fot 1Il.iot 1I0Utc. _i••lon. f....dju.lftIent.

19 The f lna 1 colU/lln ill th••UIII at the tva

211 ptevlo, col~n. yl.ldinq th. totai t a d tOt

21 ...ch c.l..nd.t y...r.

22 Wh..n th••nnual _i••lone inv..ntoty provhlon

23 of put 02 bec_. effectlve In Hay 1991, Sandla.

24 t ..cognlz.d.n opportunlty to teduc.. it. t ....lI by

2~ t.duclnq it••ctu.l eld".ion•.

1 Bec.u... th...t .. 4IlI plant i. th.. l.tq...t .ourc.

2 ot .ctl.lal ..",inion., a Iltudy .... conduct"d in 1997 a.t

] the .te."., pl.ant to deter1ll1n. l! op.ration.l

4 IlllproV.",..ntll could be .cclll'llpll.h.d.

!I A. th.. iarq..lIt pollutant, th. prilUry god

, .... to d.. tert1l1n. It nltroq..n ollld.. or !fOX 8IIll ••ionl

"1 could be llllnlm.1z.d. Th. Inltial focul ".1 to r.duclII

8 ero.l.-lon. by lIlalllllllzlng cClllbu.tlon efUcl..ncy, and.

9 h.nce, t ..duce tuel u ••q•• nd IIIl11i.llon••

III Th. Urll pha•• at the study Included

U evduatinq the tunlnq ot the tl...e boU.re .nd

12 r.proqr_inq the Mller'l dlqltal control .y.t..... or

13 DCS. peoc... optlmizatlon, that h, operatlnq th.

14 more eftict-..nt boll.r. to cov.r th. It.4lIl demandl, ..a.

IS .ilo .valu.t.d.

l' In .ddltlon, the Itudy evalu.ted it

17 InlltaU.tion of .d.dltlon.l etnlsalon reductlon

18 equlp"ent lIuCh a. Uu. q.1 tor recircul.tion, or FGIl.

19 could .thctlvely reduce ellllll.loni.

211 Th.. Itudy concluded th.t an Increal. In fu.l

21 ..fftclency and deere..e In 8IIlt-ulonll could be realiz..d

22 throuqh boU.r tunlnq, prDc." opt1llllzet1.on .nd

23 Install.tlon of """last-on r.ductlon .qulpll8nt.

24 Th••e .tudl.1 lIere tun dad p.rtially balled on

2!> t.he "r.turn on In.... lIOl1ent~ telated to the lavlnqs at

tuel .nd redllclion" in "",illUonll tee5l. Without the

1. rlnancia.l 1.n<::elltive •• the5l. ,.tudie.....y not h.v", been

] initi.ted.

4 s...ndi. nellt l!IIIlb.rlt.d on c:.. rrylnq out thll

tecO/llllAlndatiofl.ll ot it. study. OUting the

, boiier-tuninq pha'llo the thtee 5Imallet boilen. loIet..

1 tuned durinq the lIu_et of 19'17, ..nile th... tllO l ... tq.. r

8 D<lliet' "etll tuned in the vinter of 1991.

9 Ellhibit 4 5Iho"51 the qt.ph at the tesults of

10 thll bollllr tunlnq ..ith, in !lCIlfIe ca.lell•• I.v.rai

11 percent.qe point lncte••e Ov..r th.. balleline ....Iuell.

12 nudnq the t.ptoqr_lnq ph•••• the ne"

13 opet..tlon.l ranq.1I "It.. codAd into tne 1I0ft...atll. Th.

14 ..v.lu.. t-lon ph..... "v.iu.tinq .,,,ch bOIler and the

lS leuibUlty Of i".UIUnq ero.18l1loll r"duction

l' ..quLp!Wnt.

11 The 1999 _h_ion reducllon phale involv.d

19 rettoUttlng FGIl in bollet!l ) a.nd , ..hlle th. 2000

19 ph.l. Involved retroUttlnq FGIl on bo.llet 3 to

20 lIva.luate pot.ntl.l p..rforlR.nc.. for boilerl 1 and 2.

21 Aq.1n. th.. tuninq .nd lIu.t>lequent .lnltallatlon Of

22 e",luolonl reduction equlpM!nt vere funded b."..d on

23 tetllrn of Investlllent, or 1lO1 Itt.teqy. Without th.

24 r.duotlon In ....i.don. fee. thelle projectI llI.y not

2~ hav.. be.. n funded.

1 "'1 a dlr"ct re.ult or thll .ftott, th.

2 op.r.llon or tn.. ~te.m plant 1. eltimolted to b<l 1.)

J petc~nt "'ot~ ru~1 effiCIent.

4 Th.. Cu. 1 efflciency r ••ultl In. 0:.0t.0I1 MO.

) reductlon at 2.3 tong pet y~ar. tpy. of oIctu.l

, elll1e.Ioll. vlth .n .ddition.i 44.4 tpy ot .c:tll..l NOx

-, r.duction frlll'll Fell on three b0118u.

Ellhlbll 5 h • t.bl••holllnq an analy.lI of

9 s.ndia'. ellllillon reduction effortl. The tlnt colUlnll

10 11 .. proqre"!Jlon of Improve....nts Itartlnq IoIlth the

II beleUne in 1991, followed by boUer tunlnq. and.

12 then, tvo phuell at FGIl retrofit.

13 Th•••cond colu",n i. the potential NOli

14 em111ione Iltart11'1q >11th the b•••11ne v.lue oInd

l) decr....llnq ..lth eolch improvlllll.nt. The th1rd co1U111f\ il

l' th.. co.t lav1nql felll'll bo1l.r tUllinq .nd t.he r..duced

17 rue 1 conlWllpt10n ba..ed on 1997 noltl.lra.l qa. r.t....

11 The fourth co1U1l1" i9 the COlt ot the Ie

19 pollution prevent10n .rfort•. Th. flnd co1U/1on h the

20 paybaCk 1n ye.e. bal..d on 1nit1al tUlIl ,.v1nql. The

21 COlt o( retrotltt1nq FGIl in bollera 1 .nd 2 ill

22 nt1111.ted oIt $120,000.

23 ElIh1bit , 19 01 llit ot the av.rdl ,-ec.1v.d

H tor the .",1Ie10n reduct10n .trotta .t the .te4lll

2! plant. The 'ot-nt 11'1dultry oInd qoverl\lll8nt pollut10n

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1 puv..ntlnn .l~ quality award frail the 11'8... Medea

! ... cllltl,,~ lII4n ..qer, frOlll the ntotllork. In conjunction

3 .. lo:n the City of "lbuqu.. rq\l8 ....4' lllUOId In 1991 AI ...

, poilln..lon preventIon honoralll .. _ntlon to Sind.!... for

"Dell\On,tcatlnq ell_platy lII... n"'9_..nt c..-itlllent to th..

fi enylconraOlnt." The joint indllBtry and. qOverruMlnl

7 polhH.lon pr....llntloD ", .....rd In 1'J9'J .... tor the l ..rqe

8 Indu,try dr quality ."'Btd cateqory t,..ued. to Sandi..

9 ror their reductIon of aIr Qll\18g1onl Ulrouqh ~proc.1I1

10 optlrrliution pro~ ..ct.... "

11 An honou.b18 mentIon JOInt industry and

12 qov.nnrn..nt p<>llutlon prO/Yantion ....rd ill 2000 .... for

13 the innovative P-2 .....",r;d c.toqory 1.R\.led to t.h..

14 Do!p4rl_nt of Energy and Sandi", ror their c:ontln\.lad

1" "reduc:l.lon of .lr eIlIl,'lon, r.hrouqh prOCell.

16 Opr.llll1z.Uon projec:r.."

11 Governor G.ry John,on presenr.ed r.he 2000

18 COllnlOMlnr. le"ul ....rd lor r.h.. Gruen 1.1. EnVlronmunr..l

19 EIlc:ellenc:e proqrol1ll' .r. S'ndl.' I lr.e4tl pl.nr., "Hereby

20 c:onllllr.1 r.o envirol'llWnr..1 uxc..llinci by Inr.egr.r.lnq r.hl

21 Core vllull ol r.he Green Zl. proqr."" whIch .re

22 m.n.q .....enr. cOllllliU!l.enr., errl,clenr. producr. proc:e.' .nd

23 s"'rvice d"'1I1gn, parU.er'hlp.l, V.l\linq MIploye.....nd

l4 conr.ln\loul 1.mpro"8Ill.nr. "nd l,"rnlnq Inr.o dally

25 tlu!lln.... pr.cr.lce•.

I "F"urthllrTllore, your cOllnl~nt to .eek

2 Continuou. Impro"8Ill"'nt In thele ..flortl delllOnlltr..tel

.3 le.d"uhlp In pro"ldlnq • ••t • • nd he..lthy ..orkpl.ce,

4 ulurinq .. cl.an ca.r\unlty .nd contrltl<.>Unq to the

5 ourq.nlr..tlon'. ec:ono",lc: ..ell-beIng." S ..ndl.. • 1'0 h.1

6 1111ued ."ve.r.1 intlrn.l .1I..rds.

1 "I .. reBul t of the exp..:rl.nce...1 th thl

• .nnual _1••Ion. Invuntory, S.ndl. h... c:onclud.d th..t

OJ It enc:our..qe. pollutIon "ctivitl•• r.o red\lC:I .ctu.l

10 "",lnlonl.

11 It the retrofit ot boller. 1 ..nd 2 1I1th F"GE

12 11 t\lnded, 5 ..nl11 .. vlll h.ve 'pent n...:rly ..

13 h.. lt~..-m1l110n doll..r' to r.duCI eml••lon•.

14 IUthO\lt 011. eJlhtlnq provl.lon in p.rt 02,

15 there 1I0uld not h....e be..n th.. On..ncl..l Incentiv. to

16 reduce ..c:tlJ.l eml,.lonl. ". noted, our Orlilt qo..l ot

11 red\lc:inq _1..Blon. foc:used on r"c.. lvlnq thl "bigqe.t

\6 b..nq tor the b\lc:k" by t ..rqet1nq the lollrgelt .ouree ol

19 0l!I11110hll, .r.d.. henc:e, r ...l111nq the 1.rq"Bt red\letlon

20 In .c:tu.l eml••lon te.a .nd eml ... ion teel.

2L "'a IoIe c"rry forw..rd to".rd. mor.. p-2 optIon.

22 to reduce ..",l,.lon., the redlJCtlon fee...111 becOIfle

23 more .nd mOr<1 ilnport.nt to lund the project!,

24 [[ IoIe relllove thh option to MVe our tee,

l5 b....d on pot..ntl.. l ....is.ion.... ve .r. removinQ

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1 oppor!.un.lr.le.l t.o reduce ..cr.u..J .....iil.lon. In our

2 cortlllunity.

3 Th ..nk you tor. YO\lZ con.ideratlon and I'd tie

4 n.p~n r.o .. n,"er .ny que.tiol'l.

5 THE !lENlING OF"F"lCER' "t this till\e, !

6 1I0uld ..<lm.1t 5.. ndi. N.. tion.l L.bOr.r.ory'. Exhlbiu 1

1 throuqh 6 Into the record,

a Do YO\l h..ve the origln"ls, I'Ir. du Mandl

'J I'IR. du HOMO: I do.

10 THE HENlING OF"FICER, Ok..y. C..n y011

11 h.nd thOle to Mr. SrI\th .nd hu 11111 qet th..... to .... 1"0

12 ....ke lur, they .re admltt.d Into th", record, ..nd,

13 .1.0, tl.roce "I tlaqln qultst.lonlnq YO\lr f.eSl!lIIony, ror

14 Ullt record, I have alia reCeIved p..qa 6 of Ellnlblt --

I~ o[ Statr Exhi.blt ll, whIch ....I mil.inq, .nd 1 ..Ul no"

16 pl.ce th.t Into tne record.

l1 T undurlt..nd _benl" of the bo..rd h.ve

18 received copias, ..nd, m..mben or the punHc, paqe a

I'J hal been dlltr.ltluted.

20 Th"nk you.

21 Ok.y. QuRlUon'1

22 MS. 1lJll55ET'f: Th.nk you, Mr. d\l Mond,

23 ror your r.eltll!\Ony. , .... j\l,t .. little contu.ed. 50

24 you .re I ..ylnq th.t undue ttll. nell he etructure th.. t

25 It you e!lUm.te your tonn.qe ..nd you p.y • cert.ln fee

1 r.h." the id..... runninq .....n e'flctunt qoverl"\lllent

2 .qency, you lI.nt to reduce your fee to next ye..r, .nd

3 let's 1ult t ..ke .. n.. t tholJ9.nd tonll "nd YO\l pay X

4 MOUnt_ tor th.t th"'.... and ton. and you dec:id.. lIell,

5 .c:tu.lly. 10/11 ...nt to tle more eftic:1 ..nt tlec"ule lie

6 ..nded lJP not u.lnq t.h.. t t.holJlI.nd toni th.t lie thouqht

1 IoIe .-lqht, .nd .0 nt to r..du,c.. O\lr f•• " .0 III

6 ..111 llnpl_nt th type. ot proqrolllllll gO th.t our r...

OJ la lell the followlnq ye"r1

1Cl 1 don't <.>nd..rRt.nd ..hy yOlJ wouldn't Itlll get

11 [0 enerqy er~lc:1ent proqulII' by ~~ it redlJclnq YO\lr

12 r.... i, yOUI go..l, YO\l IItlll ....nt to reduce your r••••

13 riqht7

14 1 don'r. knOll IIhy thl. lIo\l1d ch.nqe th..t.

15 MIl. dlJ HONO: under the ,current

16 provl.lon IIhere lie c ..n .pply tor .nd be bIlled On

11 .c:tu.l e!lli,sions, ther.. Is th.t r ...l Inc:entlv", <.>nder

111 the propo.O<1 pl.n to ..11.J1l1n..t .. , tl"'lc:.lly, th.. t

19 provillon,.o we "ould p..y on thIs pot.ntlal to emIt,

20 10 ev"n tholJqh our .ctu..l elllisslonl .re ..c:tu..Uy qolnq

21 do..n ..nere ....nould re.llze 10m.. co.t 1I.vlngs, ..e .:r"

22 .tlll p.ylnq thl. potential to emIt tee.

23 MS. IlJllSSETT: But, I _ ..n, It yOlJ ..r"

24 dolnq your bal.nc:inq proplrly, YO\l would pay ror --

2~ vh.. t you .re eltim.tlnq to emIt lIo\l1d tlfI b......d on r••l

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y•• U .110. look lit "h.t you M". u.u.Uy eIIl1tted lind do

110'"'" lort at ."eE".;9 ...Ad pay th.t. It It tU.[II. OUt

you ulle Ie •• th.1I th.t. th.n the ll1c.llti". "'01110. t- to

qU.E".nt•• you UIIII 1"'1 th.n th.t the 10110...11.; ye.E" by

llDp18lll."t1"; en.rgy-.ttlele"t 1lI...ur•• to IIIoIk••uE".

th.t n.at Y•• E", you buy 0". th.t·. 900 to"•• bec.u.e

you h."••ctu.lly -- you kilO.... you h."e 0.011. e".E";y

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you do,,' t ;.t .. t th.. 118l11••nd r.llult.

MR. du MOttO: Ok..y. YOUE" .I.J1.10qy of

buyl"; • peno.it 111 "at qllit...ccu.[.t•. w••pply tOE" ..

p.no.lt bell.o. a" ou.[ ..Ilpe<:t.d 8llIll1110n••,,0. "'e .110

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.E". to be pE"oduc.d bac.u•• of c:h."g•• in ".tuE".l g....

th.t k1"d of thing. bUl h.t YOUE" oE"l;in.l

pn....nt.tlon .......bOllt the lAc.ntl". to contInue

_king elflcI.ncy Impro""'el'lt•.

I don't ..... ho... th.t h .ftected by the

pE"opolled ch.";.11 If you .E". E".tC:h.tlng do... n tn. amount

01 ..1l1li10l1li you .E"e el.peetl!d. to produce. 5.n41. L.bll

c." E".tch.t do"'n the _aunt of the ...rllllloni th.t th.y

petJllit••no. It ,e_" to m. th.t the ••"lng•• H

Inlte..o. at -- ...ell. one 01 Illy qu.lltion. L. ell.c:tly.

ok.y, you h.."e 11 tonll peE" Y•• E" of _h,lonll In 2000.

...h..t ill yOUE" CUE"E"ent peE"1II.1t !o.[?

I'll!., du 1'l01l'0: OUr c:urr."t 0". ...11

0.011' t h.."e • perlll.lt..... h."e .n appllc:.. tlon th.t ....

tUed in 1996.

DR. PILON: W.ll....h.t'. your pot.ntl.1

2!i plenty of .[00lll to b.[lnq do..." you.[ "ppllc.tlol1 to the

18 to elllit .. t thIS poInt?

19 I'll!., du 1«1"0: OUr pot.ntlel to ..it••nd

20 thl. 11 un.[e••On.bl•• but it·, belled 0" .. If ell the

21 boU.u ue op• .[.. tl"g .11 the tl",•••"ery d..ly ••11

22 y"'.'[ .[ound. on both n.tu.[.l q•• • nd on all. "'hlch h

23 u-,po••lbl•.

III h.."e to rent4l1l tle.lbl. be.ltd on ouE" d...nd. III thIrd

19 o~ our ..t .... p.[oductlon ..ctu.lly go•• to Klrtl81\d lIIlr

20 Fo.[clI B.,e.

21 If u..y .....[. to ch.ng. th"lE" op• .[.tlonll. th.t

22 ...ould ll1c.[e.lI. the .t ~d. lU'o.....

23 cont.[..cto.[ ... lth IXlE h.". to meet the eIIl1.1I10A

24 go..l •• 10 ...e h.". to b.. U ••lble 8J'\d. .... h.". to

25 p.[o"lde th.t ,te8lll d_nd.

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" DR. PILON: So It 1I0und. 11k. th• .[. h

P...".. In

1 lII. you ...[......[""8. the 1.lIt ,."• .[.1 "ll1t• .[,

2 h.". beell .[el.tll1.1y 11\110.••0 th••• n'Jlllbe.[••ctu.l1y

3 .[.Il.ct u.o •• lI.i1d "'lnt.u. l'Ind ... lth the c.[hh ill

4 c.lllo.["l.....lth the n.tur.l g., .[.tII. goIng up. ou.[

&t118l11 ph"t h ..ctu..lly duel-fu.led.

6 w. nO[1l.l.11y bu.[n ".tu.[.l q.lI. M. e.n burn

1 0.1.'.1. I" I.ct.......[. buc:nlnq lI\O.[e dle••l no... to

8 othllt the Inc.[e.llltd COlt of burnlnq n.tu.r.l q.... • nd

9 bec.ulI. of thll. ou.[ pot.ntl.l to _It ill bellltd A"

10 both fu.h ..no. .... c81\not bu.[11 both fu.l.

11 s1rIlult.neoull1y. but 111 • p.DI\.lt..... h..lI. to h.lI. th.t

12 c.pabl11 ty.

13 I" f.ct, 111 the p.llt. PlIM h••••k.d ull to

1" cu.[ul1 ou.[ n.tu.[111 q•• conll.-ptloh 110 th.t FOlU KUlI

15 ..,,0. othe.[ portll1"l1 of the cIty could h.V. ; ••, 81\0. 110

16 "'e h.". qonlll to all, but .... ne.d th.t c.pAbl11ty 111

11 our P'I['lIIlt to be Abl. to _.t th.t Qelllol"d, 110 I d.o,,'t

L8 kno... It th.. t quIt••"11.... .[. you.[ qu'JIItlo".

19 HS. M.SSBTT: No. Th81\k you.

20 THE H.l.AR)Nw OFFICER: My othe.[

21 que.tlol'1'?

22 5te"e?

23 DR. PILON: 1 u"d.,[lIt.lld. I _.n, the

24 l ... t polllt you IIIoIQe 111 1I1l1.111l.[ to the poInt th.t M.[.

25 SU".tll\411 ..... 11 llIIIklng betor. th.. t th,u••r. 1I0E"t of

P..q. 106

1 4l1IOunt th..t you u ...ctu.lly .pplylnq fo.[, end .. 1

2 unde.rlllllnd. Uie depa.[~lIt folkll ...[• ...yl"q "Y.II, ... 11

3 ....nt to g.t • t-tt:e.[ h.ndl. on .[e.ll y M -- ""'e ...."t the

4 p • .[1Il1tt.d _lulons to .[••l1y ..0.[••ccu.[.tely r.nect

, ...h.t the 10u.[c.1 II"' _lttl"\1"1

, I'lR. du MONO: Th.t·. co.[.[.ct••,,0. ....

1 h.". 100k.d into that, but If the p.[opo.ed .[ul. goell

8 th.[cuqh •• pl.nned .110. ...e PllY lIID.[. fo.[ 110"'. pot.ntl.. l

9 thllt .....re not .ctu..l1y ..lttll1\1. the" to UII. th.t

10 cutll Into fundi th.t "'e could ..pply to...ud. thllli. p-2

11 p.[oj.ctll at fu.[th• .[ 1III\i."lon .[.ductlonl••ctu..l

12 .~1111110n .[eductlonlll InlltAl..d of p.ylnq the fe., you

13 kno..., .......ould .ctu.lly b. payl"q It to !lOlIle UnO. ..

14 puttillg It to "om. kInd of ben.flclel UII•.

l' KS. BASSETT: 50 If you h."••ppl11!1d for

l' • P'lfiIllt "a....,,0. you ..r. p.naitt.d to -- you ..ctu.lly

11 q..". UII .11 • .[•• th.t·1 .ctu.l1y 111lpolllllbl•• 110 ho...

III ...ould you 101"....h.t .... ".[. h••.[l"\1 trOrll the

19 .d/lllnhtr..tl"e IIt.ft. th.t. you kilO"', .... h.". got thill

2() probl.,. "'n..[••"tltlell 11k. you.[le!f .. rll .....klng ."

21 Impollllibl.. 4!lIou"t. If. God fo.[bld. "h.t h.pp."II, 110

22 th.h ...h.t ...ould b. you.[ 1I01utlon beC.UII. you .re

23 •••clly the Ul'ld at .."tity .....n trylnq to -- you

24 kno.... you "E". "oldlnq up ell thll nuf! Ln the t-nk

2' .ccount th..t .... th.n c.n't u•• 10.[ .collOAlc

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I C1evelopllel\t /lnd other lndulltrl..., 9111y11\9 .... IIdnt to

2 do t.hlll .."d .... need this lIluch CO2", ,uld. "Well, 1I0["f"Y.

3 Sandi. wb h•• 1t ell 90 .... C4l\'t (jive you eny," '0

4 hall do "e (jet At. tl'l1.11 proble",'

KIl. du HOMD: That's cortect. 0". of

6 the sOlut10nll "" ha ..e looked .t le, lik. you lIUqq••t,

1 po..lbly applying tOt" petllllt to reduce tho ..

B _1111"n. 41ld the que.tlon 11 1I0W far "ould we r ..due"

9 \.h.t and still le4Ve UII enouqh [OOlll for th.. delll/lnd.

10 both trOlll the 000 and the 008 1I1d.. on the Alr roree

II b .... , /llld. you kno". potential qrollth o~ our OWl!

12 facUlty. chanq.. of "'lIll".lon., piu. hlllvl'''J t.o do ..

13 fuel clllplllbll1ty. 111 It " .. tur41 qa. or I" It oIl, /lnd

14 /l.l111. /l.t 10000e point, lhouqh. there III qoinq to be ..

15 qap bet"".." thle .11ollable level and ..hat "e are

16 ..Ctu.. l.1y ellllttlnq ...nd 10 there ..ould be 101M! ekceu

17 Ie.. p"ymente th.. t ..ould be -- CO/lle about from that.

i9 I'lS. MSSE'r'r: aut It I .._e 11k...lth ..11

19 t.he !1l114rt Icientl.tl ..t Se"dla L.sb, they !!IUlt be ..ble

20 to c .. lculaLfI It pretty clole to ..h4t', r ..aUy qolnq to

21 h..ppe".

22 I'lR. du HOHD: Riqht.

23 MS. BASSE'rT: A litlie more ..hat Lh..

24 ItaU le tryl"q to qet ..t. I hav.. "ot yet heard a

2~ Bolutln'" I c ..n u"d..r.tend ..here you're comlnq frnm,

1 but I ..110 undenta"d IIh..t. the Itaft 11 ....yinq. and 1

2 don't -- I h..ve "ot yet he"rd Of .. beLLer ....y Of

J cIoll"q th.. L qap, 10 1 4IlI ope" to It, but It hae not

4 yet booen don•.

KIl. du l'VND: Well, ..h ..t ..e ..oulclJl'L

, ....nt to do \. 1000eho.. be In "o"collpll.."ce, ie reduce

7 lo..dl to Buch .. poInt th.. t It. ..auld Imp..ct our

9 elllllllion, our operalionl "nd put ul In 101M! type of a

9 bed Iltu.. tion, and, then, oth.r flhell ..auld kIck In,

10 IIhich ..auld not be beneUcill1 .. t ..U.

\l MS. BASSETT: So 11 thet the qre..telt

12 f ...r. then, thll Ulue that you cut younelf too clole

13 to ..hat you actually Ulle, and, then. you qet Into

14 noncolllpilancel

U KIl. du MOllO! '1,,1. that. a.l\d llke I

16 lUted, the facIlity .... orlqlhally bIlUt 11\ 194'f and

11 11 actually qralldfathered. It'e the Titla v proqr'"

U Lhat'l come Into play oHnce the.. that 11 addlnq lome

1'f of thele "ddltional [8qulr_nLI, 10 we have had 10000e

20 10nq-terlll hlltory ot operatlohl of ellll11110ni prior to

21 1000e Of theee requlatlol\9.

22 KS. BASSEtt: That's aU.

23 THE llBARING OFFICER.: ~y othl'-'r

24 qualtlonl by lIembeu of the bOardl

25 DR. E'ILCH: So how ",uch varlatlon do you

paqe 110

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2 'tou k"o", you lay t.he laBt. couple or yean

] ha"e b..ell kInd of lIarlll ..lnLece .. nd DO you <!.On' ,_ have

4 to produce ". much IIteolll for heal:l"q. bUL q1.l" III "

ballp.t.rk idea of ho.. much v"rlatlon "e 1I0llld eee In

6 thl. o"..r "ny t ..o yearl. you knOll. fiqure th.. coldelt

? lIi"ter In t.ne 1..... ]0 ye..rl and the ..a""'elt...I"ter

II ov"r the l"lt 30 year! ..nd klnd or put youreeIf 1" t.he

9 mlddle there a"d IIh4t kll1d of varl.. tlon tn emlulon

10 ar........"lklnq about?

11 I'lR. du MONO: loIeU, you could lee frOlll

12 t.h.. One t ..bl.. , the drop of over 100 toni per ye"r, or

13 courle, 10m.. of that "'al reallled by "om. ot our

14 actu.. l elllll1lio" r ..dactlnn, but the[e 11 an elt4fllple ot

l5 jUBt a four· year perlod rlqht. th.r., a"d ... h ..ve h..d

l' v"lu"& lIluch hlqher than th"!:.

17 i"eople t .. lk about the "l"ter or '71 all 10000e

18 kind or .. b....Une

19 TilE HEARINC OFFICER: I have .. q>.:utlo"

20 or I'lr. Slftlt.h before you te",..." Mr. du I'lond. J

21 u"d.nt.."d hle probl""',

22 III there curre"tly .. procedur.. tor a pI'lrllon

23 ..ho "Ill i""ued .. perlllit to 4Il\OInd the P'"'CII\lt; In other

24 words, it'l qetllnq "ear that permlt l"vel. In ordllr

2~ to avoid tl"el or other thl"ql, can they then requelt

1 th.. city to _end the P'"'rJIllt7

2 See IIhat ! am qllttlnq ..t?

J KIl. SI'l!TK: Vel. there are lII8thodl to

4 4fIIend the petllllt, "nd, ae r t ••tltied, "e lire

propollnq to add even more rlealble ..aYll t.o _nd th.

6 perllllt.

1 For ".oIIIple, a ",·2 1II0dirlcation ..here -~ 1

9 defl"ed ..hat "-2 ",eant. B"llcally, It.'9 not a

9 rellpone.. t.o dIlcrea.e productlo". It'l not a telponle

10 to controill, but true E'-2 1I0uid be fre .. , .... are not

11 eVe" qoI"q to charqe for that, III are not qolnq t.o

12 "pend tillle to IIlcUr E'-2 ch.."qe •.

LJ That'l what I'llke may be requlrll1g to be more

14 1n the llne or a 11I0[8 nUIlor permIt. IIIOdlUcatlon, ..hlch

15 1I0uid probably be talrly quick to obtalh wIthout a"y

16 probleml or. [ ",e..n, oUr requlat.lon h..1 eveft be.."

11 Interpreted to alloll tor an ellllilion reductIo" to be

19 admlnilltrativ.. ly .....ellded. 10, yel, I t.hlnk thera are

l'f ma"y other OptIOIII.

20 The thlnq Ie "e ..ant to qet. lourcee into a

21 reder"Ily entorceable Perllllt. that. "e can enforce. al

22 opposed to ad.dI"q, ~ou kno". a pe[Jllit that. hae 10 II\I1ch

23 e!!lhllonl here that., you k"o.. , there 11 1r0 much qray

24 area ..here the lourc.. Can be -- It'l very dlttlcult

2~ for ul t.o enlorce.

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1 "" dnaloqy for ollr problel'll h. you II.I'I0W,

2 pou.ntlal to emil tor 4 IOlue.. lI\ay be l1.ko ... rerrarl,

J y"t you are only drlvlnq in Ichool Ion... , why do you

t t'l.ve till_ Ferrari it .11 you're qolnq to do is drive

In Ichool 1.0n.,,1

(, ObvlolUly. there 111 • re....on why you have

1 your peI1l\lt let at hlqher level., Ind "'8 <Ire not

S t411dllq aCol.ll 10 percent hlqher. we 4rll talldnq about

.,. dqnUlcant _aUnt.I, lueh I. "MM.

10 DR. PlLO.: 90 what tllllll fr.&/lle 4"d how

11 lIluch ..:r.pen... "r.. you lpe41l1nq abour for the Sandll

12 rOllu lO lIIdlr.e ... Chan",,?

13 Say the winter h .....y colder lhan t.!'ley

l' I:r.pecled and they h4V8 to ule d1e...l In!lt''4d at

l~ nar"".1 .,ae and they r"a11re tlIar tohey ..r" qo!nq to be

16 out. of cOlIIpllance ..ltn their P'Ulll!t. how /IIuch IftOney l!l

11 It qolnq to COlt th_ to _kl the ch...nqe Ind ..hat tl_

~9 tr_ are ~hey qOlnq to have to he able to ,ee ahead?

l~ MIl. du MONO: [ ..ould a,IUllle that that'l

20 probd.bly an a1~ernatlve.

21 MIl. :iHnH, I thlnlr. you are talklnq

22 about a p<lUIllt.

23 MR. !'IAR."INE:&: I thInk ..hat "I are

24 talklnq about here 11 t ..o dlffeunt thlnql, ..e are

2~ talklnq about "'aklnq lurl that the board und.erlto!l1lda,

1 ot a llIdnutac'_udnll Lypfl of ILde ...here they are

2. ActUally <In an hourly bAlis teylnq t.o qet 'CI1Iethlnq

3 out, '0 theLr ,ltuation i, Actually quite d.\Herent

4 and Lt'. !Ae II\OU cC"'plicAted bec...u.,.. it 1nvolvel ve!:y

S dltferent type. ot oper... tions, you UlO.... sO "'e kl.nd ot

Ei "'antld to deAL ..lth I. ~Acllity like that to crellt...

7 inclntives ..ithln th... peCllllt thll ""'yll MOIr....y, ...e I(no..

9 that you have." you kno.. , "so IIIUly bollerl, ,"0 l'Ilany

genlratlnq ntl. 10 lIany lhlnql that equ"te to '0 lIIuch

HI etIl1lHons, you can asHiqn youreeH I spec1Uc nWllb<!r

11 to that, and, then, it you do nled to IncreAse

12 ,Ol'lle"'here elll, then you prob...bly hive to 1'Il0dlty and

13 not U.e 10lII1 of thlle othlE thlnql,~ t.hat'. probably

14 the only way that we could do It ...lthout actu... Uy

\... trlqqlrlnq another peCllllt

16 BecaUII it therl 1, an ...ctual Incrla.e in

11 wr.at·1 ...lready ...n Intorceable docl,llTllnt. you know, lay

19 qo bs.ck to thole thouund tonll, It the dOCUlUnt !I"'yl

l~ you are .. 1 lowed to _It a thoueand ton", and her.. il a

20 blq doclllllent thllt saYI ho.. "e are qo,Lnq to en,ure that

21 )"01.1 etay .. 1 thIn thOle thoul<lnd tons, you I(no.... It, ror

22 I""" re...on, th..y need to qo to 1,100, thin th...t II

2:3 qolnq to trlqqer I P'l'UIllr. 1II0dlUcat.lon, tnat il qolnq

24 to requIre publIc cOlMlent r..vl..... b..c ...use you have to

25 IntoUll the pubUc tlIat you "'re InCEea,inq the

and r think that the public Underltandl. that "e have

Now, "'hat happens wIth SAndlA. It' B a lIttle

blt dltferent becAUIlil they naUy don't fit the mold

not cr.."t..d a d1l1nclntlve tor ,ources to qo In th"re

and modify theIr lource, Alld In a ..ay, that lo....r"

,.heir _il,lonl.

I thInk that'e IItlll there and "e are not

qolnq to charqe tor that revle... but what "e are

uylnq t.3 that it you Vant to take credit tor thAt

partlc:ul"r r ..ductlon, then it hoi.. to be .. 1 thIn the

..ntorceabl.. l.1Jll!tl ot a perrn.It, )"01.1 kno.. , otherv1ll,

you reAlly don't 'let credit tor thAt.

Now, the other thlnqll, the other l.,ue thAt

Mr. du I'IOnd 11 alklnq III that Increa"e -- that'l kInd

ot I. dlUerent Bltual1on, you knov, we h...ve been

..orklnq on trylnll to create OelllbUlty ..lth I. p<lClIllt

thAt lookl <It productIon IncreA,el.

f"or eUJllple, you know, the 14cll1 ty haS

Ip..clllc emlulon lourcel Vlthln thelr boundarl"M. And

lor th_ to k..ep I. qood JIlolnaqement ol clo'e ellllll1ton

sourcel. and It th..y need to lncreAl1 productlon. 1Oh ..n

they arl able to '10 bd.ck and m<lke lIIOdillCAt10ni "t the

other ehd and stIll keep e ...lselonl ..lthln the B4Il\8

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..ay that [ could thInk ot of qettlnq out of th...t,

othlr than qOLnq throtlqh a full peCllllttlnq procl!ss.

It you are qolnq to Increale the _I.n,lons

that you ...re allo..ed to do. rellardiesl 01 th.. chahq..l.

you kno... it th"y nled to 1ncreA.e no.. , they ",ould

have to COllIe In tor a perlllit IIIOdltlcatlon.

It th"y hav.. to decre<lle nov, tlley could

actuaUy do It throuqh adlllllliitrative JIIodltlcAtlon,

lind therl I.!I nO charqe toe that and that will Itay the

One or 10he thlnqll 1 "'Ant to 1.110 poInt out III

that when you look at the productionl And t.hl way the

l ..1 req1etlred Is. okAy, we lay in thl palt, it your

actuAll ar.. only a certaIn percent"'qe ot ..hat' I In

your peUll1t. cOllIe In, you kno'll, palt $1,000 to revle..

It. and. then, ...... 111 gIve you cr..dlt for th... t ...ell,

"e "'ant to mAke lure it thllt',. qolnq to be the CAse

thllt thOle Condltlonl are entorceable. And we dropped

the tee, tllere la bll1CAlly I. SlOO modltlcAtlon tee.

10 we Iven d[""Oppld th<lt PArtlcular t ..... !l0 th"y still

can r"ouce that. you kno.. , but they Ar" qolnq to have

to baslcall.y plAn to I'IlAnaqe the e...i.,.lonl. you know,

actlon, "nd there 11 I. lot ot tieaibUlty o~ that "e

hAve been worklnq on for year. to try to qlve th.. t.

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1 on the r"c"~d.

8 "b<",t the sp"'cltic" to the albe.tos and payln... 1:h..

9 feel ahe<ld Of lime.

2 MR. GIlANOJEAN: HlchU"l GUl\djean, ATt,

3 40,1 Carl\9le, Nr;~thun.

HICH'uL GRANO.1!tJ\.N

aHer hal/lhq been Urlt duly s"o.rn under oath,

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ID OciqlnalJ y, when the boud put the fee

11 lIchedul. lntn place, Which 1 believe waS' thre.. vears

12 ago nOV.

1 been changed and it'll beltn c\IlIlUlat:!.vll. to if they are

8 qolnq to In<:.-o.4I1e. thOlee ill really no ....y of qelllnq

<) O'Jl of th.t without qoing through .. tUll~Uedqlld.

10 pllCllllll1nq peoe.llI. beedY'lle, again. you holv. to intoClll

11 the publlc that the l~"C:l of that will bfI

12 Jhcce4l1lnq.

fo th.. t part.telll .. r qu.rl~ ..nr_ and 110 nov everything h4.

1 bUt, aqain, It It's going to be an lllcrllliae on What.'11

2 p..rlllitted, k.ep In 1lIind th,U. it 1. the lllOdl!l.

J everything around that 1. balad on that. ",ode}. b.lBlld

t on toal lmp4C:t..

rlve llIore lourc:_. 1II1qhr naVll C:DftI.. In within

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THE HEMING OFFICER: Thank you. Me. 13

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HIL du HOMO: '96.

MR. GRAHO.1El\.Mt Oc1gln.lly, "h.n .". had

l~ Iwy other qu"lIl.l.onl by "'embers of the board

16 ot I'll. riu Mand1

11 Do... any m"mber of the public: !'l....e any

18 quelll10ns of Hr. rl'J Hend 1n rega.rd to hi. telt111l0nyl

19 51t, you have tn cOllie fo.rw.rd alld It.te your

20 11411le on th" tecord.

21 HIl.. OM1Oll' My n4llMl 11 G"org.. D.l.lIlon, I

22 "'" a ""ell\tl8r ot the air qual!ty Itatt and I ju.t wanted

23 to all; Mr. du Mond 1~ their lIIe••ur_ntl of the

24 elllla.lon9 reductiolll properly aecounted for any

2~ inereale in _lllionl.

l.5 a pUblic eO_ht, the feel vere to go .peclt1cally to

16 th .. ovn..r, and the H!alOn It va. to go speciUcally to

17 the owner I_ 1I0 that contractor. like lllyleH, 1 alii a

II hazardoull lub....nce ramediallon contractor, ..e r",ove

19 aDbeltoll !eold-ba ..ed paint 10 th.t the contr.ctorl a, a

2D whole could not go to the oVhere and Day .....ll, I have

11 thll permit he and "ltoh thil p..rml': fe.. th.t you ne,..d

22 to pay, it'D only S40, but 1'/11 going to charqe yO'J

23 SlOO,~ and they ..ould have no id.a becolus" ot, you

2t lIno.. , Ule regUlation. and all tho,e I;ind of thingl hOW

25 the actuoll perlllit tee. v.re ealclilated, vhat AU va' a

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THE HEAJUNG OFFlCER: Any other l1lember

16 ot th.. public haVe al\Y qu...tionl tor Hr. du Molld7

11 Hetahen of the boardl

i I knov typically, vhell you reducll WO. in 4

2 boil..r, you qet an increa". in carbon monollide, and h..

3 did not Ipecifically _ntloh t:.hat, ao iva. euriou.

4 allout that.

21 "an put thelD. In th.. record7

22 Any other melllber of the publIc vhh to Itep

23 ro[Vard and give tee':lmony to the board In tegard.. to

24 their oppol1tlon to the Propo!il,d requlatlon, p.Ut 21

2$ Please come tonrsrd.. PlealJe lJtale your nalloe on.. or the problemD that 1 " .... Is lhat by

1 bellt te.. t unit, all ot tho.. e klndl or thing,., and 80

2 It wal IpeclriColJly sAt lly the board ar t:.holt tlllle to

3 hav.. the owner IlpeciHcally PolY the re".

, The perlD.IU, theruelvel, are actu<llly filled

.'i out by th.. contr.ctonl, '0 belllq filled out by the

6 contractor <llId being profeilionoll, we I;nov ..hat We

1 holve to put. In there, wholt th.. air quail1:Y, you kno.. ,

9 City ot Albuquer'l.u" Is lool;ll1q tor In air qua.l.lt.y,

9 wha r ..ectlo", .... """'d to f 111 OU t and all 1:ho"e I;ll1ds

10 o[ thlnge ill accordance vlth Ule tC!gulatlon, DO by

II doIng that, ..e provide the I ..rvlc .. to the oIClUoll

12 ovn..r, fIlllnq out the docUlllellt.tloll, turnln'i tholt

13 docUlM!ntolt.lon In, borcaule It's v ..ry 5lpecltlc III t:.h..

14 docun."ntar:loll about actuollly, you lInnv, giving ten

1$ day" notice betore ve <lctually dillturll an

16 oIsbeSto.-contolinll'lg materlol1, 8"oICl1y wholt day w. oIre

17 going to .. tart, what day we are 'iolng too be on Dlte,

19 Wholt d.ay we a[8 going to lea~ the Ilte, vh<lt day ve

19 <Ire goln'i to flllhh, thOle klndl of thing.. , &tid 10

20 there la lot. of very detalled inforlllolltion that lI..edl

21 to be Ulled O'Jt.

22 So ... rill thol.. out ror the ow"er, all a

23 court..IY, b411cally, to the ownet to be oIble to ,utIlrIlt

2t that:.

THE HEARING OrFICER, Hr, du Hondl

I'lIL du ItOND: Me based ou.r _1.lion

'there belllq 110 further "IU".tionl, thank you,

Did you give your ellhiblte to Hr. smith .0 we

,

,

1 n\llllbetl .tdctiy on the EP... heton, it'" a pUbtlehed

H doc\llllellt, either a natural qas or on 011, there i. no

9 IndicatIon or allY other chanq.... In tho ........1.11011.

10 other than the NOli emilllions for ll1ciulion of the qll.

ii recircuiation, sO I \llld.erst.nd Mr. 04lll0n's gu••tion,

12 but -- so we vere able to .reduce our WO.. ellli ..iohl

13 be.ed on emil.ion facton vith no other ehahge in the

14 other "mis..lonl.

10

19 .. ir.

20

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J h."lnq t:hl' Cf>rH.rol.c:tor turn in l:he peno.lt fee, okay.

2 .. ir,1l. turn!n" in the applieation is ..orold: One, the

] cont.ractor tt:.en bl!COIIIes the b4nk and 1'14. to then Lurn

4 all of the IIIoney in ror the te•• bIllore he q_ts paid

!l "n '" project, 4l'id Lhu. /\lay bot le. 60. 90, 120 deys.

6 d.pendln" On the lenqU\ or the project end depend!nq

1 on the tee.

'J 1l\e4n, It can be 5100, It can bot SUo they can bIl

LO really nOf-hinq, which r...lly vouldtl'l be .ny blq deal.

11 bUt sOIlle of the !e... COUld be elltrEllflely 4ub,t.nt141

L2 .nd could be 52,000 or 53.000 out ot pockel tor ..

13 p<"[tlcular dre job bu.d on th.t, whiCh 1... lately

14 sub.tantial &/IIQlMll of IftOn..y lor the conluclor to be

1~ .hie to pay up It:ont and h&ve to ...It to '0.. 4ble to

16 get tne lIloney beck 1.to[ on. which 111 one pr:obl"'" th.. t

11 I ge•.

18 The oth.r: pr:obh", th.t T 58e h th.t by dolnq

19 tn.t, th.. contr:.ctor: c.n tnen up tne pAnlllt reell, not

20 .llo.. ing the o..ner: of th.t par:tlcul.r: f..cility to kno..

21 thdt ne h." lncr:e.lIed the perrlit reel ..nd tuened it

22 In. bIlc..u,e ne .ctu<lllly never: lIee" thl!ll, ..hich I

23 couldn't bellev.....s the int..nt of the baaEd until the

24 oeiqin..l ..ppllcltion at tn. tee I 11> tho.e kind. of

2~ thingl, 10 tnole .ee a couple of the thing" th<llt 1

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1 r lIIean, .1 the notltJ..c<lltlon 11 ..rltten, no"

2 it'. 10 ..oekingl daYI befor:e "e C<lln dclu<lllly go ln and

3 do .ny kind ot UDelitoll re",ed14tion, <lind, typic<lll1y,

4 ..h.t hU ended up h.ppening in 99 per:cent of the

projects Is that nobody kno... th.t they h.ve the

I> pr:obl...... untll sOlllebody laYI "Hey, ".it • lIlinute, [

1 tnink there 111 thil ovel: her:., let'll go check," .nd,

e th.n, by thdt tll11e, they flnd out th<llt they hay••

9 huge peoble~ .nd they c.ll Ull <lind they .... nt tt done

10 lllllll.edlat.ly, ..nd 1 II.y "Hey, lI.n, I'", 901:r:y, 1 c.n't

11 help you for ten d.ys."

12 so by bl!lnq <IIDte to rill out th.t .!lJIIledl.ately

13 ..nd s.y "Hey, I c ..n 'let 1t in tod.y, ...it 10 d.YII, ..e

14 11111 go tr:OIII thee., tn.t'll one of th.. IIeevlcel th.l

l~ we p"ovLd.. by doing th.r:. The d<lltell tn.t "e put on

L' the notific.tion .n .bllolutely, positively,

11 cr:lt.ic<lli.

18 If we do not q1ve ten d.y"· notific..tion for:

HI tne d.te that " ...r .. q01ng to d19tUr:b .n

20 ..IbeltOI cont..J..ning ""'"t.r:J....1. ". "r:e then subject to

2i rin.1 of -- you knOll, ..n.. tev"r th..t fine 11. 515,000

22 p..e d.y pee inch e ..tuction, b.lic.liy, of I\ot

23 startinq tnat nOT.lflc.tlon.

24 1~ lie le.ve th.. t l:elpon"lbllity, then, up to

2~ the o..nee and ne 11118"el lt by .. d.y Dec.use he 011<11\' t

P.q.. :.23

I q.t down th"r:e th.t day. he didn't 'let the r.e paid

2 th.t day, he didn' t get the, you knOll, r ..celpt oe .ny

J of thOle kindl of thlnql••nd ..n.t lIill end up

4 h.ppeninq I ....e ..111 h.v.. to end up r:edolng the

p..pe"..or:k, tu"n It h.ck In to then. h ..ve thelll tr:y to

, go back do..n ..q ..in .. t th.t point .nd IU.tch tholle dayll

I up, ..nd ~t'l v"r:y n"r:d to De ..bIll to II\4tcn the d.yl

e ..nd .... t:Ch your: .. chedule in teying to do ..II or thil

'J ..oek by qlltting .notner entity involved, In tr:ylnq to

10 go down .1'001 p..y the te...nd do .11 of tho... I<ln~ ot

13 up e."liee ..... th.t one of the r:... "on", IIhy they ....nt

14 t",ele tee.. to be p...Id up fr:ont 11 "0 th..t th..

l~ .ppllc.. tlon cen be filled out .nd f111.. d Out

16 co""",ctly.

11 Well, 1 h ..ve Deen Ifl thl.. bUll neg. [oe ten

18 ye.r:1 .nd b..lln • contr:..cto" fo" "i.l. ye.re, and In .ill

1') ye.n, [ h.ve never ·h.d. • notlfic.tlon t.urned b.ck to

20 lie bec.ue. it ...1 filled out incoeeectly. [lIe..n, I

21 never: n.v•.

22 And., typic.lly, ..n.. t h.ppafll Ie "e 1I1J1piy pUt

23 the _Ount of ."Den.oll-cont.inlnq ",.terl.le th.t we

24 .n "olng to nrnove in t.n.t p.rtlcul.e bull ding, .nd.,

25 thlln. olt th.t: point:, tn.t h ..nen thll city actu.lly

I se.. , elpAcl..11y ln tne IlbotltOil portlon, b.c.Ule ln

2 th.t, you "r:e 1I0r:-klnq 1I1th th.. o..ner: .. nd • contr..ctor

3 "ho IB lIelling .eevlce. to • p.. nlcul"r: own"r: to bIl

4 ..ble to be paid D••ed on tho". partlcul"r: feel afld not

nec"...."Uy.n entity th..t .ctu..J..ly c ..J..culatel ho..

, IltUch tonn.qe tney "n goinq to u".. 1.1'0 .. y ••r:, payll for:

1 thai. t".n .nd ..U of thOle kJ..ndl Of thJ..ng. foe th.. t

8 p.rticul.r o"n"r: in J..tlelf.

9 So thOle <loee .. couple of concer:n. th.. t I

10 n"ve.

11 'tHI!. HENl.lHG OFFlcBR: Que.tJ..nfll by

12 IIl......Den of tne bo.r:d1

13 DR. MULLO'i: And 1 c.n lee tne pr:ob18lll,

14 there. Would it be I pr:obJ..tlIIl J..f, you kfloll. 1n your: ~~

1~ ho.. you uSu.l.lly do bU..J..nelll, th.. t you heJ..p flll out

16 the ..ppJ..J..c.tJ..on form, lIo J..t .... cor:r:ect, bU.t:, then,

11 qLve It to tne Ollner: .nd ""y "I C.Mot Itl"t thll job

18 untll you go do..n to p.y thl. fee" "0 tn.t you

19 ..ouldn't h.ve to be up feont. &l\d, then. you ."e JUIt.

20 bUlinq for tne joD th.. t you "r:e doinq1

21 HR. GRABDJ!A)I: Abllolut..ly. 1 could. IIee

22 tn.t per:ticul." ioqic, blOt. in IIlOlt C..I"", ..h.t end.. up

23 happening h tn.t II.. the Ollneee ueuaily ...nt to 1II0ve

24 dli quickly .e they c.n to be able to do • paeticui"r:

25 pr:oject.

11

12 One of the thinql th.. t I belhv......I br:ought

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16 understsnd. this 18 " 14.t d ..4/1l4tlc llll4llple.

11 Ol:!V10U81y, but It's oot unu,ua1, fo.- ln8tance, It you

18 buIld s hOllle and you go batore an aLchlt8ctu.-al revIew

19 CO!ll/fllrt*,e to have your plan9 subltlltted, you hevlI to

20 pay S400 Dr IIhate"er the 4IlIOUnt, and rhe development

21 Ie to thet srd'ltectuul reviell co_ittee before they

22 ,,111 revle" you,- archlt.. ctural plan, that'9 part ot

23 the COllt ot revielling the p19n, 9nd ueually IIhat

24 h9ppane 19 that the devllllop.... "111 uk th9t the

2~ hOllleo"ner, obvlou"ly, for th9t check to be! llubln.1tted

1 colilcu14tea "hat the tee iii going t.D be b,ued on the

2 nulllber or 11n~4r tootage nr aqu.re [ootolge th.t we <I.e"

3 actually going to r8lllove, and 90 by Ilddlnq that third

4 p.ety. 1 thin. IoOhat happens is ",Heddy to " co"tuainq

",YIl.elll Dr trying HI qet th!.. p<!rlIllt "nd do 411 of

6 t.hou' kind... ot t.hinQ8 and 111""1. those d ••dlIne., 80rn..

1 days to be lure that. 'I. "re qolnq to be ..""o::t1y "hllre

B " .. nO!lId to be on th4t day 10 "8 sre not. in VIolation

g of the regulatlons, 1 thInk thst It WOUld "Ult.. It "

10 lIttle bit IIl<II8 cUlllbe.,aome to be able to qll!" thh lIork

1\ don.. and get it done properly and cOIrectly.

12 esp<!c1411y to the el18nlS that ve 4.-" lrying to .,OIll:

13 w1tn.

"

" MS. BASSETT: [atII 1uet trying to

I They lIauLll. laugh, they "01,\1ll. say "Well, ..e

2 cannot cut yool .. check." I mean, you h"ve ta put. tn d

) purcha,e order. Once you pUl In the purcha,e order,

4 we have to ge 1 It. approved.

5 Once 11(1 get it approved, then ..e have gat to

6 ..alt 3D day.. , and on..e you IIslt ]0 days, >Ie can gilt

., you the check, and. rhen, tWa ..e .... ,. l",l.r, you can

8 heve It. and l.hst·ll 60 days later, and, then, ..e could

II actua11y go In and 'tart the project, and 90 I/O that

10 Instsnce, It" rllsl:y unfea.ible to Po> able to ga in

11 and ask ~tJr /IIoney up tront rrOlll, you kno". 90 percl!nr.

12 or our cllent9 beca'ille We are elthec a subcontractor

13 or w. ace ..orkLnq with a government agency, .... ace

14 1I0rklng ..lth Kictland Air Focce sa.e or lie are "orking

15 "lth. you kno... lhe County Of Santa Fe or the city ot

16 AlbUquergue oc ..hoever it i", oInd uy NW ..ll, 1'111

17 'o""Y. r can't do thal until yOU pay tile tee," and sO

i8 at lhaL point. It "'akes it .-eal dlftlcult.

19 MS. MS:;ETT: So "nat percentage. :

20 /II.,an, lU.l a, a gUllS', of your clIent.. are actually a

21 ~ederal or Sltate or 10caJ gov.rn_nt1

22 I'IR. GIUtJ'(OJE:AN: 1 would 9ay that "e

2) p.-oDablY h.ve ~- a rough guee9, sbout 6S peccent ..auld

24 be f .. decal. state or local goverNnental .gencle•• and,

2" then, the rellt would be c""'lII('c1a1 and indu.rrla}.

I "hen they llll.mlt the bluepclnt9 tor the plan, '0 I

2 guesll 1 4l'I ju.t a llttle conce.-ned "hy lIQUId It be '0

3 dlf[lcult ro .ay to rhe penon "ho Ill1l11ed1ately "anr..

4 this aSbe.toll '-elIIOved, "Well, you can have the tor",

Ull..d out tOlllor"oll, but 1 n.ed the S2,OOO check

6 becall..e 1'111 going to go do..n and llubltllt th..

1 applicatIon, and, you t.no.. , 1 need your /!lolley to" --

8 "and I 411. showIng you thi9 19 tor you" job, M llO it's

<i even lIIore -- I mean, I reel like there is snothar

jO accountdbillty ta the penon who you are cont.-actlng

11 ..ith beca... ge It'll thel" :lOb and their pe .....it 9nd their

12 ree for thelr job, llO they aC" not payIng enyone

13 eloe's job, it', their jOb and their pe .....it 9nd tbelr

14 fee,.

1 and, than, out ot that, we would prob.bly have about 5

2 polrcent that ..ould .ctu.lly be .-eeldentla\ types.

3 THE HEARING OFFlC£I\: Any other

4 questions ot the ..1tne991

Do... any lII_be.- of the publlc have .ny

6 que.rlon' fo.- thl. wltne.,1

M.S. HALL: I _ 8.J. Iiall. lIIoU1age_nt

B analygt, and 1I"hat 1 woulcl 11ke to cOllllllent on L. one ot

9 the pr(lble/!l' that nae occurred tram a rl9c:al Side.

10 accounrlng 11lde, and that lSI lIIany tl.....e., "hat lie have

11 be!en deallng ..lth 1. ':.hat we .. Ul bill

12 THE HEARING OfFICER: Can I stop yOIl. on.

13 llec:onll.1 It you ace going to give te.. tllllony, J need to

14 ._ar you .In.

11 and,.t".. tlfled a. tollo",:

18 THE HEARING OFFICER: Okay. Thank YOIl.

U M.!I. HALL: One of the problll",' that ""

20 have hall. 19 rhat ...·11 go aheall. and lssue s btll for

21 the a.be.tos peClllit to the o..ner or to the government

22 agency. anll., then. what happen. 1. the bIll <1o."n·t

~3 qet pdd, it d08l1l't qet paill.. It doeen't get paidl

24 sLx month. latec, then lilY of [ice pick" It up anll. "e

25 ... re d.. a11ng "ith r.he o,"ner and the o'"ner t5 t.eliing lIIe

lG.. GR/IMD..I&AIII: Ab90lll.tely, that'll a

16 great poInt. The problerll 11 that In mo.t ot the

17 caees. IIh"t happen' i ...e are u.ually a Sll.b<:ontrllctor

18 to the general c:ontracto.-...ho 1. then elth.r

l<i llubc:ontcacted to 'OIIl8bady, and, then, contracted to

20 the owner, and '0 In 1II0.t case" vhar ende II.p

21 happening 1. yOIl. hsve a lot of goverMlental agencies,

22 federaL agenc:lllls, thlnqe like thet. In trying to valk

23 In and llay "1' .. S1ocry, J can't do your vork. but 1

24 need $2.000 before I can get the permit or 1 CUi do

2~ Lt."

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"

B.J. HALL

after havIng been flcst dul.y .worn unll.er oetn,

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loG. IIALL: I don't have thu. with _.

18 but I c.n certainly qet th... t tor the bo.rd.

Oil. HULlDY: Do you hoi va 4ny lene. or lID

20 11R. HNlTHII!.t: JUlt, Hr. He.rinq

21 oUic.r, on. hit thinq 1 w",nt to I!.ention on tMt

1 conqlOlll.eE:ate Dr I'eally talk to laIIlebody. so, ",qotln, ..e

2 are tl'ylhq to sll!!plUy th" pl'ocen and we ..111 be

) wl11lnq:.o work ..lth 1:he qov.rNllen1: entl1:1"11 thott se_

• to be the prlrllary c,",.t""'"I', you know. to ••t IJP 10I!I8

kind ot process, you know, wheth.er It'!l city or, you

& know, sorlie k1.nd of procesl, th"'1: w.. hotve ott 1eal1: IIOIM!

1 aSlurotnc. that the they 4ce coqnl....nt Dr th.. billinq,

B you know.

g A. I'll. Hall lIentioned, a lot of the tilllR.,

10 they ...re not. you kno.... eoqnllant ot the blllinq, they

II ~"st thInk okay. we are qoinq 1:0 hire the contr4:::tor

12 4nd p4y that contl'aCtor, and, then, It'l over nd .0,

I) you know. we really 10... a lot of II\Oney On th t

14 pacticui...r proqr.... , 4t1d, you know. 4q41n, the

I~ ...ltern... tive 1. jUlt to tucn it b.ck to the fedel'.l

1& qovernllent nd I 4rII not 9uce Lr thol-t'l the bell

11 altel'nativa t thlll point. b!.lt, ...q41n. you know.

19 5I! plltic.tlon, wh.t we ...ce 100klnq fol' .nd everybody

l~ h their ide4 ...bout that.

20 W...re will inq to lilten to th ... t.

:7.1 gp..cific...lly wt'.h the aSbflitOS pcoqc......

THE HEAIlING O!'nCEIl.: Hr. Hartlnel1

"

l~ you h ...v....ny f1qur•••bout how l!!uCh th.t h... be.n ov.r

Hi the yearI or per year?

I "\lIell. the contractor hall tallen care of all that, I

2 cut one pUrCh<lllll order and they were qol.nq to pay It,"

] 110, then, ... c411 ttl.. contractoc and the contractor

, say. ~Oh. no. the requilltion ",.yll tlIey <IC. respondbl"

tor LL," .. nd liD the bolla", line III that lola ..re in this

(, vlclouR ctrcla, then we qet into the 1Io1ddla Dittween

, contractoc and owner, which III tlOl Where 'ole ..ant to

e be. and On 11l4ny OccII510nll, ... do fleL collect .. fee

9 boICSIJ•• the contractor end the ownll>: cannot !Jettl_ up,

to liD it qOll. on. and .otter rl... year., lIa " ...ve to wrltA

11 it up, 'lE"it. it orr as .. qovlIrll/llent41 '"C1ency, 10 I

12 thinl<. that the ath." \.S,"UII 1. that we h4"11 trelllRndOul

13 proble", collectlnq on .. ,belltOl!.

" " Mil. GFUllMD..JUII: 1 ablolutely .qree. 1

23 9h. 11 our lIIanaq_ent .n... lYlt tor our rilcal ileuel,

2~ i9 that then, ev.ntually, it q.tl turned oV.r to the

15 enlorc_nt ...nd cOlllpllance divido.. ",nd It'. dealt

2) ~ean. I have a ceal problel!! when I go In .nd ( ...ill

2a tell the ovner. [ wll1 t ..U that redel'al ...qency. I

2S ..111 .ay "Hey. you "'ce qolnq to b .. qetting 01- pendt

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\IIell. th.t·& the pcobl..... WIth the 11tuatlon

1 .. it.h.

2 What we have h ...d happen n.-I'ou. ti_1 1.

3 th ... 1: ... lot ot the bulldlnq•• and thil 111 ballically ..

4 cel... ted to Sm1\8 ot the prIvate entities th ... t .... d.a1

5 WIth, not nec..lsal'Uy Al'S 01' I(irtland 01' the

6 qovenl/llent ..g.ncl••• th.y don't qo any"hel'•• 10 "e

1 know "h.c. to Und t.h""'. but a lot of th.. pl'lvate

8 entItle I, you kno.. , a lot ot the I .. cOlml8rclal

g build1nqll. you kno", th..y al'e .1ther owned by 4

10 conqlDlller... te 01' o..ned by people Out of town, 80 It

tl b.slc... l1y be<:omell impoI.lble tOI' ul to tl'ack the o..nec

12 down atter eV.l'ythlnq ha. been lIDn•• and....qain, we

13 <Ice trylnq to I1npl1ty the procell tcom OUI' f1!1<:al

14 .tandpolnt becau ••• aqaln••s MIl. H.ll lII8ntloned, the

l~ .....y It ..orke ls. you know. the p.clllit enqineer lilue.

16 out a bUbble Involc.. , ... nd. th.", that qlvel 30 daye

11 toc the tl'eaaucy to then iuue thell' otticlal InVoIce,

18 10. then. by th.t tillie, w ce at ...bout llke ~S daYI.

Ii 11:'9 about two 4nd 01- hall onth., you know. that th.e

20 pro~ect hal ail'..ady be.n cOlllpleted, tor th....Olt part.

21 and, you kno.... a lot of tl/Mle, you don't tlnd the

22 o ..ner.

23 \lie do qet ... lot of th09. c .. tlnned lo!t1:el'lI.

2~ and I can pl'ob.bly qet you ... nUlllbeI' or th0ge. and w.

2S never ... I'e .ble to tl'...ck thl. pel'lOn down oc th19

1 and it qoe. dil'ectly to the ownel' ...nd 1 don't pay th.t

2 peC1l:1t ree becaule It qoe, dil'.ctly to you ... nd you

3 ne.d to pay th ...t pel'lI'1t fee.- 4J\d th.. pC<lbll!llll 19 the

4 vay cOntracclnq ...nd all ot thOle kindl ot thlnql "ol'k.

5 It'l 'et up for a epecH1c job [oc ... lpecitic: 4/IIount

6 ot II\On..y....nd ..h ... t·1 ..clt-ten In the lIpel:itic4tlon ot

1 that actu.l job 19 th... t the contl'actoc paYI ... 11 ot th..

8 ["81.

,

\0 In. "'hole. th .. t the w... y th.. I'.qul.tlonl ...ce get up.

11 they ace get up 1:0 be p41d by the actu.l o..nel'. 90

12 that tn"l'e al'e nO 1II.l'kup" in f ...... 90 thel'e .I'e non.

13 o[ theee ...ddltlon...l C09t. and tho!le kInd o[ thinq••

14 and. typIcally. what endl up h ...ppenlnq ... nd ha.

lS h"wened In the palt 19 th ... 1: I ..111 h ...ve an ownel' COIllR

16 back and. I.Y. [lve, Sill, seven. "lqht, nln.. , 10. a

11 yeaI' 1... t.1' and ....y -H.. y, ve keep qett1nq this lett.r

18 tl'om the cIty ... nd th.y w...nt UII to p... y thil he.- ... M I

19 lIay HOh, yee, I'ern....bel'. you'ce IUPpo9.d to pay that

20 f.,., It'. In youI' <:ontl'..ct," and they "'ce lIke "IIIell.

21 It' 9 not in my con1:l'act beCaule you guyl ...ce !luppos.d

22 to pay the flO .. -

2) Ther.. 19 ... I'e..l problel!! WIth th4t .ebestoe

2~ and the peCllllttlng ..nd the fee.

1'13. BASSETT: so. pot.ntlal.ly, w...111

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Oil. PILON: 1'1y under't..ndln'l 1s th.. t lay

1 contncto.-I ..nd thOle Ilindl of t.h1nql into th.. COlt of

2 the pE"o'lIct.e. but It. I' .. d"fin1te ConceE"n.

J tHE HEAAINt; OFFICER: !'illlve?

19 pOlilbility. Y..lI. I rII....n. It· a .. very qood

20 po.lIillilit~, they lIould JUSt tu.-n .. round ..nd IIdY

21 "Oll..y. "" ... il.l JUllt '10 1I00001!ploice .. he."

22 Oil. PILDN; OIlIY. but. typically. 1t'l

2l the contr..ctOE" th.. t's 'loing to be p...ylnq for -- I

24 me ..n. it', the ollller b...tc..lly p ..y. the contr..ctOE" to

2S h..ndle th" IIhole projact...nd OUt ot th.. t "'ill cOllIe --

the o... ner contr..ctll ... 1th the 'lene'-"l contracto.- to

6 L..lle c .. .-e or tne Job. lIO they .. E"e qoing to rip out the

7 1nlide of .. building. lay the old 01q1tal equip"ent

9 bu!ldlng, and they COllle ..crollI nb"llto!il <lIhd so they

9 c .. U you ...nd it'll sOlllethlng they 11 ..,1 not ..nticip.. ted

10 oE" lIIayb.. they h..d ..ntlcip.. ted !IIome rem..diallon, "'h.. t

11 ...ould h ..ppen if you "'ere to go to the contu-::tor and

i2 Idy "W..ll, YOllr project III bd~lcally stopped uot11 you

I] qlv"",",,, the reel 10 that I C..n p ..y foc the permit"1

't MO .... no lII...y lUlt .... y "Wall. o .....y. 1r you're

1~ not ...1111nq to tE"Ont the ..oney. poly the banll tor the

16 penllit f,,",e. I ...ill jUlt qo to 10111.8 otheE" contr..ctor,"

II th .. t il enentidily ...hat ...ould hollppen7

lB 1'1R. GIVI.lIOJt:.NI: That·l .. lIery good

21 contE"llct.oE"." IIhoell"'E" that ""~, you Ilno........11 or hi.

22 pOE"tion or hi!il 1II0ney, no... ho... d/Il I qoinq to COlt COde

2J [h.. t b..sic.. lly bolcll lO th.. t pE"oject to be ..bl" to cut

24 th .. t checll7~

2~ \liS. BASSETT: Th.. t·1 ..nothe.- pE"obh:lll.

1 have to, at Due ne_t b04rd 1II"8tlnq, decide thll:

2 lIIould you be open to that. there ......s 10llIe I'Iotarlz"d

J letle" that had to b .. glqned by the owner lIdylnq. you

4 knOll, "t [fOalh" I 4IIl rellpon.lbl" tor the tee tholt

..ould '10 In with the penlllt," 10 that .... would have

6 ,"""'" .... y of knowinG!. you Ilno.... 10 it'" on paper tholt

7 as thlP, 0111'1.[, they are -- "Here ill "holl We oIlce

e <'lltllll.4tinq the tee to b"'~ and, yOIl know. ~I

9 Undeuland it'. qoinq \.0 talle Y0l.\ 60 day. becau_" you

10 have to 'let approval rrOlll w...ahlnqton. o.c." DC

1\ Whatever It 11 "to 'let the lIIoney, bul you hoi"''' to 11'11'1

12 1'1 ..[ .. and It',, qot to be not.. d1.ed and 1 have to

13 includl! It.~

14 MA."C;;AAMDJl!:AM: That',. very polll!lble.

15 LL'I" very pou'lbll!' thlnq to do, althouqh rrCWll ..

16 contractlnq It..ndpolnt. 1 thlnll it ...ould be 10000.....h.. t

11 d1ff1cult DeC..Ule of the ...ay thin'll aE"e blJdqeted in

18 contE"..ctinq and tho I" Ilind or t.hinql. ~OE" thelll to turn

19 "E"ound ..nd ..y, "Oll..y. "'0111, no'" 1 h..ve to p.. y thi!il

20 Sl~OO biil ..nd 1 h ..ve .. lE"e ..dy paid the qen"E" .. l

P..qe Il3 P..q" IJ~

MIl. (;AANDJ"I!../\,N: To SOllie <I..q.-ee. I gue!ils.

1 1 lIIe..n. t.hey .. .-e q01nq to p"y .. filted d/II.ount. and.

2 then. out of th.. t f.lltCid alIlo<lnt ...iIl cewu the .... beltOI

3 .-elllov..1 p..lmlt re... right?

4 So the.-e is no <:['Jelltion or m.. .-lIup or ..nythlnq

S b"c"ule the de.. l h"l .. l.-eady been m.. de ber.lle..n the

6 ollner ..nd th" qener"l oontE"..ctOE".

B yel. it could be. 1 lIle.. n. b ... lc..Uy. it you h ..v.. --

9 you Ilno.... llile t ldid. in "'Olt ca.el. they <\On't even

10 tind thllt they h,,"e .. probielll unttl j t' S alre..dy --

II you Ilno.... LhCl COlltE""ct I. alr....dy 9"tatad. the

12 contE"..ct, h"ve alr....dy been cUt. it's ..lre..dy been

1] ....... E"ded for x nUlllber or doli.. n .. lid .. 11 of thOle lIinds

14 or thin'll.

16 oE"deE". the typlc..l thinq ...he.-.. th.. contr..cto.- ...ould

11 h ..v" to '10 bolcll to the o"'ner ..nd I"y ~ThU i. qolnq to

18 co,t UI, 'the re.. is re..lly only $500. but ...e .. n

19 qolnq to ch .. .-qe you 51.000 for it"?

20 1'11l, (;;AANOJI../\,N: 1I.19ht. 10. b"lically. It

21 qoel ill a ... ch..nqe o.-de.- .. t th.. t point for th .. t

22 addltlondl "'0E"1l th.. t ...ouid need to be done by r~vlng

23 the ..Ibelltol-cont.. inlng mat-e.-lall ...nd SO .. t th.. t

24 point. then, wheA th.. t ch..nqe oE"der is cut, then

2S th..t'll IIhen "'e lIould ..ctu..l1y go in to be "ll1e to do

DR. PILON: 11 th.. t qoinq to .. ch":>qCl l'

13 MIl. GRANO.:JlJUiI: Right...nd t.h..t·s one of

14 the h"E"d thlnqe th .. t they h ..va. dJld. 1 lIIe/Ul.. it'.

l$ co",lnq do...n to the c ..le. oIlnd I h ..ve done it .. couple

16 of tIme. wheE"e T-YI III a prLme eltd/llple. [ _ ..A....e h ..d

17 .. bIll h"nqlnq OUt ror T-Y[ fOE" 12 or 14 monthl ..nd

18 Hndlly. I saId "Looll. JUIt 'live me the bUI. 1 will

19 poly the S202." you Ilno.... "I ...ill t .. lle c"n ot t.h.. t

20 bill." bec..ulle "'e ...en qettlnq Ietto'll. they ...ere

21 gettlnq lett..r •• eveE"yone "'011 qettinq lettera. "nd I

22 Could n"ily u .. the probltlll'l 111 ho... th .. t wOE"lle. but 1

2J d/Il not quIte IUE"e ho... to lolve the ptobleJII, It. in

24 fact ....e !iltUI .....nt th" o...n"r to b" abie to poly the

2~ blli 10 th.. t It doe lin' t 'let ntarlled up lly the

LO MS. MSSETT: Right. I ......n· t .,..ylnq It

Ii ....... llill. I .....s jUl!t I"ylnq it ....... proof th.. t they

I llut you "re I ..ylng tlwt's tne CUE"E"ent ..... y it ...o.-Ill.

2 th.. t t.hey hdve to still p.. y it. ~o ...hetheE" th..y code

J it properly i. theiE" pE"ob18llo. you Ilno... "'hat 1 lIIe..n1

,. 1fR. (;;AAIO.:J&lUI: l'oblolut.ly. tNt bec..u"e

S of federdl qov..rNlent contrdctinq ..nd thlnqe lill"

6 th.. t. they edJlnot JUI[ turn dE"ound /Ul.d lIdy ~Oll ..y ...."

7 h ..v.. 'lot to pay thi! pOInon thil bill rOE" thi.

9 eontuct" bee"u!ile .. U t.he lILOney 1. p .. id to the qene.-al

9 contE"..ctOE".

12 "'il1 p.o.y it.

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1 .. n.ly.t I. involved...nd .0 th.. l 1. the real case and

2 '0 "h.. l ..a s..y is, you know. p.y Jt up rronl. "5'be'H.o.

] ha. to ba .b.t.d. 5'0 that portl<1n or lha pt0111ct ill

4 not qoinq to continue until he qet. done .. i,th hill

.'> IIor_,

1 h.ppen [n the teai ..arid and Il hall h.p",,,ned vhere,

S y"., tha e"putable .b.. t ...."nt conteactor- th.t says

') "Thi" is "h.. t It's qoinq to co.t you to ..bat" .\t.~ it

10 h •• h.ppened vhere they s ..id "Well. qe t out of Illy

11 r ..ce, ..e vl\l jUlll qo wIth" -- you knov, 1I0meone

12 that'. not qu.Htied ..nd jUJ't b...lc..lty ha...

13 trant-end l<l..d.r..."d v. h ..ve c ..uqht th..t. ve have

14 c.uqnt th.. t••nd there ..re • lot or fine .. that are

150 lll..ued alld ..a do catch th.t. but, then, aq..1n, it

16 ...oUld have baen ch"aper tor th..t parllon, qu..ranl4l" It.

11 .nd ...e have h..d l\l.. ny .c.n..rio. to ~y the cOlltr..ctor,

til p..y the S2S0 ..nd get rid or th.....bellto •.

19 ! can't think or a 'In91. calle ..h"re It h..11

20 been 1lI0re cost effective to by~.. federal la.. and not

21 posy .. contractor .. nd peay the $2$0, I re..lly can·t

22 think of One 9clln..rl0 that It'. vorked out betl4lr••0.

23 aq.. ln. our et[oet. are 1:0 'lmpUfy the proce••.

24 HIl.. SHITII: H I C"n add. ve ."" our. to

2$ .illlplify the proc"'lI. but "e .... lit to put the in.pector

AIR QUALITY CONTROL BOARD

1 the lIork. 1:0 btl able Lo qet that done, 90, you knOll. I

2 que,. IIho p.ay. the tee?

J It the contractor pay. the fee, he could

4 "ertalnly pay I:h.. f .... and he ""\lld then h4". to qo

5 back ..nd lnclude that into hi. prlce Ind 91 ..4 it back

Ii to the owner. otay, <lnd, than, ttle olln.r IIould btl .ble

1 to PlY that money to he .ble to qet the r..... bur. p...rt

9 ot tnat problem ill It <:0111.,11 down ••0, you know, .9.1n,

9 11k. 1 114id. th.. contractor bainq th.. "'nk to pay all

10 or the IIIon..y up rrant to be abl.. to qet that peUlllt

II [ee before th.. worlt colin even bill! Itaxt..d ....hen he may

12. not even 'let paid tot 60 day. or 90 daye or whal:evec.

13 OR. PI LOll: But len't the 9.n"e41

14 c:ontc<lctoc qetllnq. you know_ cut. at money .11 the

15 lim.. ill the project'?

16 MR. C""'''OJ'EANl eto, no, you're not 901n9

11 to get ..ny 1II0ney fro... the contr..CtOr,

18 OR, PILOII: Untll the job i. tinillhed?

19 KIl. GRAllt>.JEAII·, Until you h..ve 90t ..

20 compilltion done oh. you II.no... ullu..lly vh.. t h"ppeJllI III

21 you h..v... lob ..nd it's tva. three ",onth....h .. tever it

22 l. th.t t1rllt 1II0nth. they qive you 205 percen!:. of th.

23 1II0ney...nd ~o .. t th..t point. It'., you II.no". On ..

24 proqrell.lve .c.. l .. or hov ",uch v<lrk 1...ctu..lly

2S Cotllplel..d, so to qo In ..nd ...y "H..y. I c ..n't ev..n an

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The "th.r i ••ua, too. i. th.. t y.... it doa.

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t thill ..ark ..nd you hav.. not qotlen p ..ld yet, but 1 .... nt

2 you to p..y th" tee to lila th..t you ..rll not qolnq to q.. t

3 untlt th" .nd at lIexr 1II0nth." It' ... clrcul..r

4 nI9hUII..u. It lIl4kea It v.ry dlUlcult.

OR. NULlDY: Rlqht, &n<1 I C4JI lIee 1M ..re

6 -. obvloull1y. 1 don't think thll lIt.. tf ...... thlnkill9

1 th.. t tha .ubcontr..ct<lr ahould be tha b..nk ror 'orMIbo<1y

S ellle; On th. other h.lId. U there "r... nlJlllber of feell

9 r...ver balnq p..ld or thar. i. a re..1 probl8lll ...Ith th.. t

10 or havlllq to tpend. then thll qener..1 t ..xp..yerll "ra

11 p..ylnq for the lie project., '0 th..t· probllllll, too.

12 MIl.. GAANOJ'I!'.IlN: 're b.olutely.

13 DR. NULLO'r: SCl!I,II y we .. ee obviously

14 needlnq to "'..u the O"n..rll ra.pon.lbl. toe th..

I!> rllfllOv..l. you knov, of h..:r. ..r<1ou. lIubllt..nce"

16 MIl.. HAll.TIN&~; An<1. ultimately. re..lly,

11 the project. rll..lly, foe the IIIoat p.. et .. t le....t. vhace

18 the ••ba.to....... fOUnd. I, qolnq lO ..top until the

19 ..b4telll.nt Is annll, you kllov.

20 Ra ..1 vorld IIcen..rio I. vh..t ve _ntiOned

2l ..bout T-VI. 14 IIIOnUlIi to collect 52";0. I llIe4JI, it

22 COllt .. 'ubllt4ntl41 4111DUnt • ..... y ..bova $2$0 for the city

23 to jUllt q.t to th.. t point "lid coU"ct It.

24 1 me..lI. th. tr....ury v ... Illvolv.d, cOlTlpli..nce

205 enforcllfllent 101 ... Involved, OUr tlllc.. 1 lII"lI"qlllll.nt

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lout In the nald In.t""d or .. t the desk "rltlnq .......0 ••

2 th..t·, vhat r t....tltl..d to,

3 MIl.. CRANt>.JEAN: AII<1 [ ab.ol<ltllly aqna.

4 I me"n. I ..b.oIutaly aqr... Hov ve ..ctu..lly 90lve the

$ probl... I alii not .ur•• becau.e th"r...ee /Il4ny. "'..ny

6 IlIOn peopl.. th.. t ..re Involved In belnq ..bh to qet

1 th.. t fe. p..ld by, you knov, the <11 rfer"nt ovn.r...nd

8 th. genee..l contc.ctor and th. Illon..y. ,"on.y...on"Y.

9 bIlt, you knov. I ..b.olu1:ely aqre. th..t, you knov, ve

10 ne.d to qet th. in.pector. to the fleld ....e need to

II qat thllfll out ther.. mOn! otten. "e naad to h.v. the••

12 Illspectlonll bec..u.e. you kilO"', I try to CUll tha 1lI0.t

13 pol'1tlvely reputabl. COlllP"IIY that r c.n ..nd do

14 av..rythlnq th..t 1 can to follov the loll... ex..ctly to tha

1.li letter ..nd [ kno.. th.. t ~h.c. "r. oth..r contr..ctot. out

16 thee. th..t don't do th.. t ...nd 1 ~1lI OIell III r ..vor at

11 qettlnq ....... ny in.peclOr. Ollt th.r. to dO a" m..ny

11 job.... pOllll1bl.. bec..ua.. I kno... th.y ..re 1I0t bIIlinq

19 cOlllphted properly ..nd th..t ~k.. It extrelllely haed

20 tor me 1:0 <10 bUslne....... contr.ctor vhen thi. quy

21 <to••n·t folio... th.. I ..v. h. ollly de •• halt or vh..t h.

22 lIeed. to do ..lid ha ch""9'" h..lf the mOney. "nd I am

23 trylnq to do What 1 n...d to dO ..nd 1 c ..n·t q"1: It

24 <1one ••nd .0, you kllOV, I ..qre•• hoy you qet. th4t dona

2$ "nd ho... 101...tre4/ll11ne that proee .....Ithout nIolkillq III..

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AIR QUALITY CONTROL BOARD Multi-Page"" FEBRUARY 14,2001

BRI". D. McGILL

arter h ..,,1n9 been llrlt dUly ....orn undeI: o.th,

I:en,trl.d ... follow.:

Tfl~ HEARING OFFICER: Plene 9\". u"

S your profRlIlIlonal addcen, ,1c.

(; KA McGILL' My pcoh'"lIional ...ddre •• ill

7 P.O. 80" 100. T1jeru. Ne.. H••lco. CO/IIp."y 1'i411ll1 ill RID

B Grande Port.land CerRai'll. I _ t;he "l'Ivlro..,..en<-.. 1

<;I ",.. ".geI: tor Rio Grand Portland.

10 THE HEARING OFFICER: Pie.... proc••d,

11 II c.

12 Mil.. McGILL: I ..111 alt_pt to be

13 beter. 1+. lot of Lhe pointe lMl 1 .... II qolrlq to lOuch

14 upon In Illy Urlt!",",n)' tonlqhl h4"e ..lr....dy been t.ollked

l~ about to .. certain extent. but I 11111 go ..head and

16 qlve Illy introduction.

I Ihow_ ..e h,,"o bol..n ItI Illqge.-t fln ..ncl,H contdtlu,:or

2 over the YOl"'I. Rut toniqht, we h.."" .ome .er~OU.

3 qu..... tion.51 ..bout thlll reqlll .. tlon.

!> delcrit>e a fe.. tI... ic. or how r..c111t1". "re re9ulated

6 under the 41r progr..m ..nd the r.'Jul .. tory .....ch..ni_.

1 rOJ:" ..".ellling (eell.

8 Air qll.. llty pf'f1'llltf.1ng urquir"",entB for ..

9 given loufce 1I111 v..ry dnpendlnq 01'1 the process type

10 ..nd the typIng .. nd m"Slnltud" of r"gul.. t ..d e"'1 •• 10I'is

II that ,,111 re"ult rrOlll. oper.tll'i'J th" proce••. The 1...

12 ..nd requid,t.lol'i" r.quir.. th .. t ".ctl racl1lty over ..

13 spec1tilld threShold d,pply tor ..nd olltain .. perlllit.

14 Here 1n 8ern..lillo County, we h..ve quIte "n

15 ill.preslive l'ilollltler ot "uch .ource". lI..riou... 1.",,11 ot

\6 alr qu..Uty perlllltting, Including ~ourcOl req-lltr.. tion.

" In Lh1. day or •.,'len"I"" requlatlon, 41r 17 ..uthority to construct, new ~ouJ:"ce p..rrorlll..nc..

18 '1ud1t)' pem1te can be ,,\t41 to the nee... of ..

19 tacility. Th" right p..rm1t can III<Ik. the difterence 11'1

20 • complony' ...b11ity to re.ct to lII.rket d_andl .nd an

21 adequato!!ly fin.nced .nd ... tticlent progralll c.n make the

22 ditferance in prOllloting putll1e health wMb ,.u.-talnlng

23 economic develop1lent.

24 Th. dec1ll101" of this board can play .. huge

2~ role in ioc.. l econotl.y. Thill 1 ••speci.lly true In

1 light ot the presllnt trendll tOllardl r..glonal1Jm.

;I :.111'.....1••• the d.y-to-day actlvltlell ot the city' ...lr

3 program h.. ,. an ol'igolnq Impact on our tlu.-lneSlel.

4 Theretore, we tlel1.ve it 11 ....entlal that

the cIty'. progralll hal th.. appropriate reeoure•• to do

6 It... job. 8ecause ot. all .tand to benefit trOllo UI

1 ..d..qudtely tinanced proqr&/ll. "e lupport the clty'l

8 statt .Uorta to otlt.ln re.ourcea they need to provide

9 ...ervlce.

10 Oe ..plte our support tor the Itatt'l IItforta,

11 the requelt for a f•• Inc:rll .... rai.ee sOllIe fund&/llental

\2 queltlona. 10m. or ..hlch w. bellev.. cannot tie

13 ..dequ ..r.aly ..nllw.r.d In the .hort tllllll that we have

14 tonlght.

l~ Our concern., IIhich 1 w11l elatlor.. te on 1II0re

l' [uliy, are baled on thr..e tund4/llental concepti:

11 Equity or f ..lrnllu, ..ccount..bllity and l"vlIl of

18 ,.ervlce. Thele liluel .. 110 qo to 1Il0r.. ".ceal-world"

1'1 I114tten olnocl..t ..d wIth the alr quality pr09r41ll. luch

20 al day-to-d..y IUna9ement of th.. Tltl.. II p8rJ111t tund

21 Uld Title II progrlllll ltatting. and...1110, proqr_l1c

22 m4tt.ra Ilk.. reqlonalill'l. I114rket-bal..d eminion.,

23 tralnlnq ..nd ale quality attalMtel'it.

24 Plea"e make no 1II1.take, .....uppoet the local

25 oper.. tlnq p"rTIIlt proqrlllll, and a9 th.. ~.cl ele4rly

18 i1t..ndolfd., noltlona! eiII1Ssioni .t.. ndard. tor hu:.. rdous

19 .. lr pollut.. nt,. .....jor 1I'5P./P5D And 11tle II operatinq

20 permlts.

21 Of the varioull \evell o~ permlttlnq that III"y

22 1;Io!! rllqUirod or .....ourcll, the sour<:01 r ..ql"tration .MI

23 ..uthorJ ty-to' c:oniltruct progr&/lls are truly local In

H n.ture- ..nd halle lIe.. lr.esl. link to the red.ral Clean Air

2~ A<:t. At the ~tate level, thea. p"l'TIIll9 al:<I more

1 <:""",,only kno..n a" -<:onstruction perlllits."

2 In fed.r.. 1 clean aIr terTll9, the local

3 "uthority to conltruct proqralll taIls Into the cat.gory

4 o! "minor nell ..ource reviell."

5 At the other .nd ot th.. peDlllt.tlnq .. p"ctrU/II,

, the Tltlll II operatinq perlllit progr&/ll 111 dosely

7 pr.scribed by ted8rd requlr_ent.. Thele

8 requlrementl.re toul\d In Title II or the Clean AIr -'<::t

9 end In Part 30 ot Tltl.. 70 ot the Code ot Federal

10 Aequlationl.

11 Tltl. II loure... 6r. <:411ed "major lources12 tlecau"e of their "t.tu. under th.. requl..tlo".. Th.

13 N"w H••leo AIr Q\I.11ty Control Act a110lll the

14 COllectIon or re....onabl.. permlt fee .. to cover the

15 COli til of the cOIl,t.cuctlol\ Plr1ll1t pr0'i\r4/ll, Including

16 tho!! CO.tl of revieotln9 .nd ..etlnq on pllrTllita ..nd

17 entorcinq their t<lrlll.... <I.eluding legal COlli or "n

18 en!ore"lUnt .. ction.

19 51qniUeantly, the Me" HeJlleo AIr Q\lalLty

20 Control Act h41 a dltter"nt uetion that speeHIea11y

:n 4110101" ror eo11eetlon ot .. nnual emi.llon.. tllel

22 eonl1i1tent wIth Till" II or the Cle ..n AIr Aet ..nd It,.

23 requlation,..

24 The t"o type" ot te". havlI .. dl~tee..nt basi"

2S In .tat.. alld ..d<lral lall and " ..eh has .. dltferent

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1 purp.ue. One 11 ror po"l'lll1ttlnq .- 0118 h <I pernlittlnq

2 t .... dedicated UI... rd~ fUndlnq tile conlltrUctlon po"rrdt

J proqralllt and the other 1~ an _1.lionl r•• dedlcatotd

4 to"ard r"ndlnq the .tat.. and local Title Y p",cqr<llll••

Ttl.. diU..rencl! 11 hiqhll<;lhted 1n the federal

, requl.I::elllenti tor the Till. Y proqro!llll and _lilian

1 r"l!lI.

8 Under tl'le federal 1...., leeal pr0<;lc.....,. IIlUllt

OJ <;luarant... that Tith V elll19llon tee I ..111 be UlOId

10 "lIC1UlIlv"ly for the COllt. of the Title v perrlllt

11 proqr......

12 The idea behind thll tequlcelIlent 11 fatrly

13 ItraiqhUonlard. It 11 lnequitable or unfair to

It ...quire _jer _ouree_ lIub1ect to Till.. Y to Ahoulde.-

I!) the exp.n.lI Of reqUlatlnq all ot.ner lndullllry.

16 In order to provid.. uniform accountability

11 and <I levlll of uanllp4r"llcy in t.ne _naqement of thele

11 teel, U'll It.te 1•• require I th.t local authority

19 eltablhh. deli",nat..d air qIlaiity peC1llit tund to be

20 ulled exclulively ror _ ..tin", th.. COIU of th.. p"Clllit

21 proqr4lll,

22 In .ddition, the t ..dor.l part 70 requl.tion

23 requirel.n Initi.l .ccountinq .nd periOdic

24 .ccou"tinq.. or 1'1011 tn.. ree r.venuel .rO uled .olely to

25 cover the COltl ot the par'lllittinq pro",e",",.

1 No.. , 10lIl8 or thO cOIl"lderation...ith ro",acdl

2 to the .ie peClllit application procell, 110m.. o~ thele

3 pointl "'lire dilclullod • litti. e.rlier. Toni",ht [

4 ..Ul try to 'let throu",h th"", very quickiy.

5 Denpite til.. i.vel of peCIII.1tt.1nq, at! .ir

Iii qu• .l1ty per'lll.1t.1 ...111 conta.1n t"d"eaay .ntorc••ble

1 11Jl,.1tat.1onl, e.1ther proc.1I or elIl.1.llI.1on', th.t

8 re.teict the &rIlount o~ pollutant, thoillt c~ be "",.1tt.d

'" on.n hour.1y 40d ~nual ba.1.11. Th.... ""'.1I1.1onl .e. 10 t.l'lIIed to be .,nl.1l1ionl al.1o....d by pe~it or "allo'llabl..

11 emiuion"."

12 Thele lilllitationi .re Impo ••d to enlure

13 cOll.pli.nce with ..dera1, Itate .nd local .ie qualIty

14 lIt.nd.rd" th.t • .<e dell",ned to protect the pUblic' I

15 healt.n .nd the envieONII'l!'nt.

16 Thl!le rederally entorceable 11l11iution, .ce

11 ba.led, ... t l ••st posrr-ially, On Infor.....tion cont.lned in

19 the peCllllt application,

\9 8y requl ... tion, a p.Clllit lIuat ba,. theIr

20 el'll.1"Bion" .Itl.m.tell on a facilIties "pot..f\tial to

21 ea1t" or PTE. EnI19l11ons ba.led on PTE are theoretic41

22 elIl.1.sl10ni that h.l!,v.. be"n deriv.d allUlllinq th... t the

23 proc.. n 18 runninq 100 percent c.poscity. A ~u11er

24 definition ot PTE can be ~ouf\d if\ Section 20,11.2.1.11:

F.qe 149

1 requlatloll,

2 "" • Itr.teqy to enlure both cOIIIpliallce lIith

3 hourly .Ild .llhu.1 ellll",lon 11n.lt.tione co"rained III .n

4 .i! quality per"'lt "lid to h.vI • cert.in deqre" or

!> opeeational flexibility 1n .n unpredictable ",arket, •

6 ."urce IItti often "j iqhtly ovee!t.te "",lutons beyol\d

1 "hat il indic.t..d by PTE or pOUlltial to "",It.

8 CUrrent r....,. .rO! b.ged Oil ..ctu.l eIll1".10"1.

.l'\clu.l "lIIl~.lon••re derived throllqh pertormlnq an

III .nllual eIIll"llorll' inventory Bumitted by Title V

11 sourcel. Th:1 inv..ntory 11 revlewed by the city ltatt

12 <tnd .ppeoved 41ld the current Iylt"'" .110....1 th.. lourc".

13 to pay hel boilll..d on oiIIctu.l em.lllllion., not thlloretic.l

14 ",.xi",UIII.

15 Thil .110"'11 for. fluctu.tinq ..conomy. It

\6 .110 prOlllotel pollution prevention, a 1I'0urc...1 an

17 econQllllc incentive to reduce "",1119ionl, jUlt .1

18 indic.ted In r.he prevlollll prelentolt.lon by the

U Deposrtl!lent of F:nerqy.

20 A couple ot CO/llCllentll on economic condit10nll,

2\ t.ne indult.ry th.t I 1I0ek in 11 vecy clolely tied to

22 th.. <jener.l he.lth or th.. econQlllY. Wheee we .ee at

23 tiqht nOli 111\;1'1 rllqard to our .ctual .....ll"lonl V.rlUll

24 OUr potentl.l to emit, "e typically run .nphere trOlll

25 90 to 9~ petcent of ..h.t. our .llow.ble or PTE il.

I Qvee the i."t "everal ye.rl, "e h.ve enjoyed

2 • very rornat he.lthy econCllly .nd hope to be .bi.. to

3 tale adv.ntaqe ot it tor I.v.eal "'ore yearl, but

4 econOllliel bein", CYClic thin'll, looner or l.t..r, th..re

S 11 ",oinq to be • 110'lldown or dOllnturn in th.. economy

Iii that ..ill hav... dir.ct .rtect or direct illp.ct on rh..

7 industry th.t I work in.

e Potentialiy, ..hat COuld h.ppen it the econo;my

<} 510'118 or .ven 'lOllS into <I r"celsion, ". 1I0uid lICit

10 likely h.ve to cut back on our production, eV.1l "'0 to

1\ haIr production b.sis.

12 Thill h.lI h.ppened in the put, ho...ver, und",r

13 the propoll.d requiation, .veJl .t haIr production....

It are ltill posyinq lull p.rll!t r.ea. Eminlon reell

\5 und..r the propoled r ..qul.tlonll, .1 I nave m.ntioned,

16 will be b.led on theor.tical m.xlltlUIII eIll1s"lonl, No

11 p.<ovillonl ror tluctuatlnq econClllic conditionl, .nd,

18 .iIO, inc.ntive" in the -- .conomic bal.d incentIve.

19 tor poll\.ltion prevention 11 reftov..d.

20 NO'll, ",ettin", to th.. lIecond handout th.t t

21 p .....d out, I believe th<lt thill 11 110lIl8 intoC1ll4tion

22 that "al h.nd"d out in Jan\.laey'll bo...rd lIl.etinq. I

43 c<ln't .ttelt toe l\.Ire 0/\ that, I 'IIaln't prO'lIl ..nt .t

24 th.t ",eetinq.

F.q.. 15\

25 -- sorey ror .11 th.t -- on paq.. 3 ot til.. p'<0poled

F.q.. 150

" MS. 1lo.I\35ETT: It'll••.

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1 HR. McGILL: But I })@11eve thl~ "4.

2 paned Ollt. The tint paqe. TiUe V tee projections,

3 indica!:e thet _endlnq the requl.. tion .1 pr"f0~.d tor

4 Title v Inuree. 1oIould incre.,e reel frOlll 5224.000 e

5 year to nearly 5463,000 .. y"ar. TlUs 111 over lOO

(, percent lneeeue o~ appro:ll1l1l4tely 52311,000.

i I'.", looking throuqh .. qre .. t de..l or nurnben.

8 [thouqht the"e ....re llIIfXlctant. The city', an..ly,t .. ,

\I r believe, On the 8QCOnd p.o.qe at the ..lr quality

10 division tund 242 Indicated that the ch..nq.. In

11 collection tor title v source. 111 r;ero dOllan, 80

12 it's .. littl.. c:ontullnq to lMl. and the co_ent.

13 aeetJon on that p.o.rtlcular t.4ble on the rlqht-hand

14 "Ide of tho page, that indic.. ton that the tee, Titi.. v

I!> source. p.o.ld fees b.aed on .llow..blea.

16 Now••sauminq th.. t 411 error w..e m.de ln this

11 t.ble .nd t.ctorlftq ln incre..eed Title V into th..

18 .n.iyela b.aed on the propoaed requi.tion ind.1c.tee

\1) th.. t the air qu.llty divislon budq"t. totai b<.Idq..t,

20 WOUld be riqht .round $8:59.000. of which the Title v

2\ te"a olr" rouqhly .. 54 perc..ftt ah.re of th.. L

22 The dlvidon'a llfte itelll b<.Idqet foc the

23 thc..l ye..n 1999, ~000 ..nd 200i "48 not But'Ud..ntly

24 det.lled to determine the nUlllber of ,t"ft podtlon.

2~ and r"sources th.t the Tltle V feeg "re supportlng.

Mow. I "OUid Uke to qo throuqh • ililt of

2 conC..rnll th.t Rio Gl'..nd" Portl.. nd haa .nd _e ha"....

3 nllftber at questiona th.t "e beUeve IMlcit c.reful

4 conillderation.

5 The fee requlation pre.ented toniqht re..lly

6 qoell to the tlac.. l directlon Of the proqra"" ..na.

1 therefore. 1a fund4/llentaUy -- it fund4lllent.Uy forma

8 the b..ds ror the proqr4/ll.

9 As fee p.yers. pemitt.... 11 and citi:tene with a

10 atake ift the cOIIIIlWllty...e heve • vit.l Intereat in

11 thi,. requl.. tlon.

12 I'd llke to =n throUqh SQIII4l of our

13 qu.. atlona. and. th..n. Invite the bo..rd to r"vlalt th8/ll

14 indlvldually after I 4/Il done. Firat. on the f ..ce of

15 the at.te .nd federal 1.... thl. board .ppe..ra to be

16 the entity that m.y be ultu...teiy 1i..bi.. ror the fee

I? ayat_. the maftaqernent of the fuftd and the proqr_

18 prloritiea th.t are aupported by the fund.

19 Aa th.. llntlty th.. t lIlay be ultlmate1y

20 reaponslble, ho" doe. thi. bo.rd inter..ct "lth the

21 city proqr«rll7 We are atl re of the clty/coUnty

22 IMlrqer vith the trenU to rd.s r ..qioft.UBIII. 110" "Ul

23 th.. board ..ftd the City llIan..qe these fllnda .nd the

24 proqu", In Uqht of the conaoUd.l.tion of qoverJ\lllenU1

2!> What Is the rel.. tlon at Title 'I budq.. t to tn. q"n"r"l

1 cIty blldqet or the cit:y enterprise hll'ldn

2 We ..re .11 ."are at the city' a

3 ..ell-publlcl:ted fisc"l "01"1. In tllMl.'l of revenue

4 ahorthlla, the T1tle V proqr_ C..MOt })@ c ..uqht up in

oS local budqet.ry poUtics. Ho.. C.n the bo.rd and the

6 city enaUre th..t th.. Title V proqr4/ll 1a lIl4n..qed "or!

1 bUdqet" from other bUdqet.rv consideraUonll ao ..a to

8 be protected from other unreieted fi.c.l cOhcern9?

I) Ia th..re .. 'ep.r.t.. Title V budq..t or 111 i.t

to interminqled vith the q"ner..t penll1t proqr4/11 budqet?

U lr they :e il'lt.. oninql..d. ho.. C"n we .ccount for Titie

12 V revenU" nd ellj:lenditurell? H.a there been ..n

13 .ccountlnq.a d....cribed in the p.rt 10 ruie? rr not.

14 when ..ili there be?

15 Ho.. c.n st.kehoider. q.in ..cce.1 to thll

16 lnfOIIII.. tion1 Is there. tOC1ll.i mech.nism for

11 Bt..kehoider!l to reque..t .n .ccountlnq1 It'a without

18 questlon th.t thle bO.rd and the city n"ed reaourcea

t9 to provide .n .dequ.. te ievei of service.

ao Hall .re tne Title V budq"t..ry r"quir_enta

21 derlved. n\llllber or elllllloyees. houra. oth.r resou['Ces?

22 i9 half the budqet derived rrOlll Titte V r"ell1 Ia h.lt

23 the et..rr time dedlc.ted to ..dnlinlat..rlnq the Title 'I

24 proqr4/ll7 Ho...re these det.UII tr.cked? Jln.t c ..n ..e

2!> do .... st.. kenolders to enllure that th.. Title V proqr4/ll

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1 is .dequ.. toly Hatred1

2 Tho.e ar" -- bec.use our concern" lIili

3 require eOlMl reae ..rch ..nd consUlt.tion wlth the city' a

4 proqr4/11 ata1f ..... beih.ve it h prudent toc the bodrd

5 to he.. r Our concerna toniqht ..ftd to defer actlon on

6 this requl.. tion untll after ..e h.ve had .. cn..nce to

1 consult ",are rully ..lth the city st.ff.

9 I kno.. th.t .t the very beqinninq ot the

9 he.. rinq that th.. hearinq otficer indic.. ted th.. t th..re

10 ..ould be -- the he. ring record w111 be kept open ror e

II period o[ t ..o lIeek,.. I "ould urq" the bo.rd to pIIrh..ps

12 keep the he.rlnq record oplln until the nellt 1Il0nthly

13 "'.... ting. qlven Valle or tn. queatlon .. and laauea th.. t

14 need to be dl .. <:u.aed in this IIl4tter.

I~ Th.t concludea I!ly tOC1llal teatllO\ony.

16 THE HEARING OFFICER: B..tore we qo to

11 the qu".. tlofta. Mr. MCGU1. t recelYed t ..o document,l,

18 one appe.r. to be your teetimony in the "rltten fOml,

19 .. nd the aecona la th.. dOCUlllent "hich you referr"d to

20 .... Tltle V tees bllled roc 2000/2001.

21 00 you ..Ish theae t ..o doc\llllent to be ..ntered

2~ i:1 the rllcord .... your el<hlbit.7

23 MIt. McGILL: ~ea. ilr.

24 THE HEARING OFnCl:R: Okay. I ..111 110

25 _ck th8/ll .!IS Rio Grand.. Ponland Ceraent Corpor.. tlon.

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I Ellhlbit. 1 <Ind 'JIlhlblt .:I.

2 lI.lly quutlon. tOI: Mr. MeGill lr<ft ",~rs of

) the bo.&rd?

MS. BASSETT: Have you taLk..d to th..

!> gtatt b<lfDre 4D<)Ut the ....paret.. Title \I accountlnq?

(, MR. McGfLI" We holY.. not u:pHc:1tly

1 dBcussed thl. In the palil. We would have hoped to

9 hav.. do"e it, pe~h"p. lhl. <jo-t"ound, but. ". didn't

'J tece!ve notH,,. of the ha.ulnq untll 4HeE" tne propou,d

10 4l11endrM!ntll had gonll to the public notice, and 10111

11 lIUl:ted lrwe7r_lqatlnq "holt 'O/lle of the proposed

:2 change...ere and ... I... worked throuqh this proc••••

1] lll\d of Callie to the U<llil.4tlon that ."",e at l.he

14 concern. that lie h4VII 'oIollld b"UIC<llly or at leola!". have

IS <I p<ltentl<ll or ll1qnHlciLhtly c:hiLnqlnq the propoled

16 [IIqu!<lLlon •• '0141 IUbI!Iltted for public notice. and

11 ~c..us.. of t.h.t., w. h.d not. h.d • ch.nc" t.o ,,1.1t. ... It.h

18 the cIty IIt.. tf .nd ...ork toq.th ..r In .ddr•••lnq lorMI o~

19 th.. , .. II1SU..I.

21J "rilE IItAR.IHG OFFICER: J\.ny oth.. r

21 qu...t.1onl tor M.r. MCGIll frOla lIleraberll or the bO.rd?

22 My quelltlone ror Mr. McGUl rrOlll lIlelllbers of

13 th.. It.rt Or melllberll or the pubUc1

24 1"lS. IIALL: 1 &lII B.J. H.l1, .... n..qernent

H .nalYIl~ for the city.

I .Lltr,orlty to cOllltruct peormlt. III the TiUe 1/ port-Len

2 til rt..po.lted 1n'u> this fund, .nd if thll1 tund hOl,uIII

] t ... o proqr_., th.. vehicle p1uI fIIanaqe"'.. nt proqr.", oInd

4 thu operatIn'J pt'rmltl proqra", of dr qu.lLty opeor.tJnq

!I permItll 111 TItle 1/ .. nd all the other .uf.horlty to

6 COnSltruct penal til, the II" t o .r. kept .ep.trated by

J city accountlnq .crlyltl yltelll, "h"r.. , 'If.•ny ti......

B ..... could 1';011 you ho... much reyenu.. hall c"",e In for

') operatlnq p..nrliu .nd nOw ,."uCh has b""n ""p"nde" ju,.t

10 tor tn.t pro'Jralll.

11 It also C4n t .. 11 yo!> th.. Inte.-est 'Jalned on

11 that 1II0nf>y, on th.t fund b4I.nce ror just opoilutinq

13 permit~. and, 41so, tor just vehlcl.. plull .... n..q""'.nt

14 proqum.

l!l Th..re Is nO optIon lor th.. m"yor, the

Hi oIdrdnlstr.tion or anyon....111.. to bEo ..ble to borrew .. ny

11 ol th.t money for .ny oth..c CIty [unctlon or purpole.

IB sO we do h.ve tholt and that Is assur...d .. nd th.. t

19 COlllpU.1 with redec.. l 1.... th<lt s.ys It has to be a

20 d"dic.. ted fund.

21 Tholle 11<1/1\. ruDnqll oIpply to the pollution

22 m.n..qement progrAm. 110 to re'pond to hls quelltion h..re

23 about how dOell the CIty ..neure th4t thll IIIOney Iln't

24 qolnq anypl.CII else, "'e h<lve th.t In place, and what

2!1 our city council st.rf does do IS thllY h.ye the

4 "'.n.qement an.lyet for the EnylrONllent.1 Heollth

!I Dep.rtJllent. Jl.ctu.lly, 1 don't h.v.. -- I do h.ve One

6 question for M.r. MeGIll, but Olen I h.vo • couple of

1 other Ilt.te_nte, and th.. llrlt que.tlon Ie th.t I

8 thInk it ...ould be prudent tor Ole two ot ue to lIle..t

9 b.c.u... 1 don't <lqroo "lth the nuraberll th.t h.. h.d

11J purported her.. , .nd In S..cllon ~. ProqcoUll BVdq..t, In

11 S..ctlonl J\. .1Id B of th.. t dOCUlMllIt, I don't kno.... ·I

L2 h<lV. no Idea "'hece he qot 010 U1D .. n.lYlil. of th.. aIr

13 qu.Uty dlv1elon tund 242 tJUdqet bec.u.e 1 ullu<llly do

14 thai" .. n.lylles "nd J .... not ."<lC.. ot <lny of ull c""'lnq

L~ up ..lth thea.. n\JfllbecI, 110 I'd 11k.. to qot toqether

16 with Brl.n, If I couLd, to .. n ....er sOllIe of hll other

11 questIonl reqardlnq the Inlluc.lIce that the CIty ot

18 Albuquerque hoi", ho.. these tundo that .re coileCt"d

19 "ould not b ... let' B ray, used by the CIty tor any

20 othur purpole.

21 In e.l..ndar y...r 199' and tIIC<lI year, CIty

22 tisc.l y .....r 199!1. the City ot Albuquerque Ut.bUlhed

23 the .1r quality tund, fund 242. Thio tund 111 <I

24 dedic.t.ed fund <lnd i. cOIIIpletely lepa.rate frOlll the

2.5 qeneCd.1 tund, All ~ney III coUected .nd the

,

:2 aqain.

J

"rHE HEAR.IMG OITICER: St.. te your n&rlle

MS. HJ\.LL: I <IIlI B,J, K411, T am th..

Polqe 158

1 abllll,y to apl-lrop,.-I,He trom the run" b.lance to run.

:2 proqr4lll. but they C.nnot .pproprl.. te any lIIOh..y out of

3 th.t to run .ny other pcoqram, !l0 whether they chocle

, to fund t..ll1" .t • I"Yel ...e requellt or .t • le"el

.5 th.t'o leiS tl:oIn th.t, It "till remollnB In rund

6 balance. th.t IIIOney do,," not qo <I .... y. It does not

1 reyert to the qen..r.I fund. It. 11 th..ce to be Uled for

9 th.. proqram need".

9 we h<lv.. don....nalyilis of the COlto of th..

111 Tille 1/ a"ctJon of thott proqroUll <lnd .... h.V. Incre.alld

11 ouc st.tflnq to .~pport th<lt rund, In y...rs p,Ut, ....

12 h.d to r"port by p..rcent<lge thll ..lD.Ount o~ IItart I.I/ll.

13 both in alc qu<ll Itleg <lnd ln t In..nc.. <lnd everyplac..

14 eill" th.t dId li'OIIIe "'ork In opor.tlnq per...ltll, and,

1~ th..n, " .. h<ld to ch.rq.. the tund approprlat..ly.

16 tn risc<I. ye.r '01. we met, ......valu.ted .nd

11 >Ie <In.ly~ed th.. proqr<l'" <lnd ..... took IIUlp. to fund th..

18 people th<lt .pproprIately do nothlnq but wack In

19 oper.tlnq permits l)t <-he (und and t.h"-t 10 charqed

20 LndirOCtlY ror cIty s..rvices th.t <Ire proVIded to the

21 fUlld ••nd th.t's .t. th. -- th"-t' 0 "-t a v ..ry lOW r"-tll

22 for the EnvlrO_nt.l H..alth Departrrlent t..llis ye.r .nd

23 ...In probUlly qo up this year.

24 MS. BASSET"r: So a •• publlc <lqency,

2.5 your budqetl an <I".lIabie to tho pUbUc, rlqht1

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24 here .nd you look .r. the _ry tlrst enr.ry, lt s",ys

25 ~£.ti..... ted colt..ct1on of the o:urrent te.... and

1 bued on t.he people th"t ..e deumine ..ork

2 Ip4Ic:lt1eally on op41Iat.lnq perlllitll prll1W.rlly, p"0II1t

3 "rIt..rl, .nd, then. IIlXIII of t.he COIRpl1.4nce t.h.t lIoe9

t 1"r.o their..

!I Aq.in. you kno1O, our budllet, you kno.., OUr

6 tor.a! budqet 11 eI litt.le over 5211II111101'1. ye4r. The

9 of theil, ...nd, ellI.ln, you 11,1'1010, r.h.t' 1 • r.l.t1vely --

9 you kno... It.' I Ilot by a1'y ........1'1. the '"-"10rlt.y or ..h.t

10 we fUnd.

11 One Of th.. thlnq. tha':. I "ant to - - .nd 40 ..e

12 do 11t do..n, and 01.1 th1 ....heet bell1.edl1y ••t. out., 1

13 "'e.n, ..... c"n bre"'k It. down by I.ch perlon and 1'10.. ""uch

14 I.ch porion I.rnl alld th...r. kind of BtuH, and, I 11I1.1'1,

15 you kno.., but, h41ic411y, 1ulr. ..hat it COltl for UI to

16 pay tor ...qel and benefit" .nd th.t kind of thlnq

11 r.har.'1 on this P.III.

18 1'15. BASSETT; C"'n I interrupt a lecond?

19 I don't think r.h"t'l sr.eve'l qulltion. I t.hink th.

20 queltJon 11 1ult r.hat hera ..e .r" seelnq 01'11 n\ll'llber .t

21 th.. bot.tolll, thlr" 1" • 5220,000 dltflrinci.

MR. MAIlTlNIU: Rlqht.

MS. BASSETT, When you turn thl pag. up

"

"

1'19. BASs.r.TT: Rlqht.

16 <Ire adequately provided (or.

MIl. MCGILL: And that .r.... rUnq le1l811

1 MS. ItALL: 'tel.

l MS. BASSETT: 50, Mt. MCGill, you. had

J ,,'ked about tl'1.t, cou.ld you 'ee VIe 4CCoul'it1.nq. 90 I

4 think tl'1"t Intornl.otlon 1. avallahle to you. 110 it

."ern lIke d lot of t.he qlJllllr.ionl that you railed here

o dte 901f1ethlnlj th4t you could f"'lrly quickly 'let r.he

1 4MtWllrll frlXll, 90 if yOI> couid maybe 1I0rk wiUl thelll t.o

8 qet your queu.lon& an"wer@<!., its '.elIIS like yoll are

OJ concotrn,..d about ",1.u9. of Titt_ V 1II0ney.. I think you

10 need to <:ont4ct the d"partlllent.

1\ "R. ""GILl.: IUqhl, rlqht, 1 .....

11 cr.4r4ctodzlnq the ,,"'"Clnn .... just .... ntinq to make

lJ .Ure tonal the fund I .. prollleted.

1 ( "5. BASSETT: Su re.

18 !'Ill. McGILL: ""d 1 would be happy to

19 /ft...t ..lr.h s..J. and di.o:uI....ollle of r.he tln. der.... 11. or

20 r.h.. ao:eounr.lnq 11I"0:1'1"'1'1111III,

21 1'19. BASSETT: So t r.hlnll "h"'r. "ou.ld be

22 1II0re helptul, cert... lnly, tor lIIy ••lt, ....... bo"'rd

23 meIRb..t, 11 r.h... t line.. lt lIeelll. l1ke B,J. il u.ylnq

24 r.h••e que.t'\onl ...r • .,,4ybe not lnlltanr.ly an...ered, but.

2!i f4irly readily 4n"..""ed, th... t it you th..n hav.. further

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1 queatlons, lt ..ould be helpfuL th.t tnen you brlnlj

2 tneIR to tn.. board.

3 !'Ill. Mo:GILL: 't... It th. tlnt round ot

4 .nl..erl qen.r.tel a 1'1." round ot quelr.lonl, I could

5 certdnly be blck .nd proviae IClllle ...ddition...l

6 r.e.t1.lll0ny.

DR. PlLOM; I thlnk ..h.t Mr. MCGill --

8 one or the thlnq. h ...... r,,1.1nll .... the r...ct. th... t on

9 th. Urlt paqe that. t.he cUrrent. condir.lon ..ith fe.

10 4djultlllent., th.t th. tot..l ...... 5224.000, rouqhly,

11 .nd, then, potentlal condition without r.h. 4dju.tlllent

12 462.000, 463.000, .nd, then, th.t o:h.n'le lln't

13 r ..Uected on the nellt poIqe.

It II r.hat 01'101. of the thlnq.?

l!l HIt. McGILL: Tha.r.'. corr..ct.

16 DR. PILON: And I "ould jUlt 11k. Ul.

11 clty It.tt to addre •• th.t. My undeut"'ndinq I. th.t

18 th..y don't expect the e.tl./ll.lted c:oll.ction. to ch41lq.

19 .11 th.t much .nd th...t' ...hy, bIlt lIW.ybe, you know,

20 lIl.yb. th.y o:ould "llpl.1n 10hy th.t., ..hy on th1l p.'le

21 r.hlr.. 1. a biq j_p ot t220,OOO or S24tl,OOO, bIlt

22 that'. not rlU..o:ted on the nillt p...q ...

23 !'Ill. MARTIM!.Z: Let !lie ellpl.in 4 littla

2t bit 4bout the bIldqet4ry proc......nd hoI' th... t "ork.,

25 41Id 1 von't .pend .. lot of tillll! on tiI..t, ...nd it 11

t "latllll4ted col1ectlon 01 r.h. proposed," t.h... t hUmber

2 Itayll r.he ••IlII; wh.ce••, on the tront pa'l., It's •

3 5220,000 dlffet'l!nce, go th.t' ....h.t he ls nor. <:114r

, on.

!'Ill. MARTIME:z:: Illqht. Thls IS1;1rrIat.

6 .ccount& tor not lUst only Tlr.le V, bu.t ror 411 the

1 or.h.r .our<;e. th.r. .re in the proqrd.lrt.

8 1'45. BAS5ETT: T r .....llre that. hur. Ilnaer

9 here. lt solly. "Tltle V Source. Annu.} IHlllnq. - It

10 doeln't 11'10" thls O:.lo:ul.tlon.

11 MR. MAIlTINE%: I .ee what you are

12 uyillq.

13 1'15. BA5SETT: 'tou .re .... ylnq thl& 18

It 462, but, lnlte.d. thh 11 ..nt.er..d •• the ........ a. 22t.

l!l ~hat'. th.. quesr.lon.

16 MR. HAIlTINEt: OK.y. NOV, on that. .....

11 really h"vell't, you kno1O, untll recently....e re...l1y

111 h ......en· thad ...ny lndic... r.lon that. "nyhody "a. 'loinq to

19 bo p4yinq, you knov, be p.ylnq IRore th.n ..h4t they h.d

20 been p4yin'l 11'1 !:.he poIlt.

21 I lIle.n, they h ...d b<!en p.ying tor. certain

22 level ot prodUction ...nd that.· .. been like t.h4t lince

23 \991. baslc...l1y. lOve ...r .. enterlnll our tourt.h y.....r,

24 4Ild, b••ically, the prod...cr.ion hoi." etay.d ..lthin t.h.

2!i ...... r4n'le, so ve r ...lly o:ouldl1.' t "'•• UlIIl! tiI... t ali of a

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MR. MAIllIN&7.: I lU!iIt cOIll/ll"n1. on lh4t

III IMjor "'CUrl':e "'no ",lnbc 1I0urc...

1~ : 1'I04n. ybu kno.... you 4Ee comparing baeic...lly

12 appl.. 11 to or ng.." beC"UII" ...h .. t dlstJ.nguilhe" ... m,"jor

13 "Ourc.. trClnl. ",lnOE "OUEce. On. J 9 belol1 100 t:.Il1lea 411d

14 one i9 /IDQve lell tim~9 of the ....1"1I10n", but I.h4t

15 <:\<>lIln·t Ee.lty 1lI4lr.e • dlE ..ct corre14t:1on t:o the

16 concentr.. tlon....hic:h ill ultll114t.iy ...hat th.. Clll4n lilt

11 ",ct prol<!cts.

18 The It.. nd"'rdll do not: ".e .. "lIr.. tOnll, they ..re

19 lIle..."ured by th.. monlt:orl ...hlch III "e... lIured l.n

20 cOIlC"ntr.tion. wheh you look at It frClnl. l.h.. t

21 per.lIpectlve, It 111 JUSt "'s Import...nt ror U9 to

22 regul te 4t I,h.. S41l1e ..ftort .nd the 1I4l11e lovel, you

23 kno nd In ... lot at .In"tance ... 4 511-t.or, aouEce, a

2& 100-ton 90UtCe .... nd bec... us.. In a lot 01 inst..ncea ...

25 50-ton !tourCol h.1I 4 hlghllr l",pact bec.use or

re<;luJ4tory ,1.rUClUrll/' 4ren't p.rt of Ollr 5[PI. lIO,

thererore. th"y 4re feder411y enforce..ble. so they .re

-- t tnlnk th... t thete 18 ... IlIhconceptlon. 4nd [ hilV"

h.d nU/l'lerOUII rMIetlnql .. nd dlllcuII!llons on thl11 l''1ue

... 1 th 1':"'", at EPII he"dqu..rt~u on tne ...hoie iillUII 0 I

1 lUdden, ,"yu:ybody "'•• qoinq to .4'1' ~Oll.ilY, ..... ~. qoln<jl

2 to pay tor .. rull pllndt,M '0 'Il" reilly couldn't

J ."WIIe that..

4 DiI.. PILON: My undeCllundlnq ".8 ther..

....11 qoirU:j to be .adaptive behavior On we part of the

{; p..ople ...holle rate....tll qOlnq up.

1 MR.. MAIlTUIEZ: Md that ..... the Id....

B Qby!ouUy. Ulay ....nt to go .h...<1 and pay for the rutl

9 perndt and flot modify, then that', their ehol".. , you

10 "no.. , and '0 tnat's, you know -- but .......".11'1'

:1 c('uldn't. <lCCO"nl tor t.h.t.ln theee.

12 One 01 the thIng. that I wlll poInt. out, and

13 thh ..... , on the Is,ue ot collectiOn, 11 jo,l.iIt to glYe

L4 you 4n ex&tllple, It 224.000, that ..... -- that"

15 e'll'1l4T.lld hen. th"'t 8 collected, I que.I, Under the

16 current t.,vel. and wh.. t ..... 4ctu411y collected over4ll

11 "'48 4boUt S360.183 In 1'1'19.

18 If you look 4t our bud<;let for l'J99. It .....

19 4bout S4U,OOO, 110 "'e "'ere 4bout SlOO.OClO IIhy of th4t,

20 you knO.... 4nd It "'4"n' t 4ttrlbuted prlm4rily to the

~1 Title II sourcel 4nd "'01 dldJl't count On th... t money

22 cClnl.ln<;l In trOll! them, you kno.... but "'01 did count on

23 .ddltlon.l IIIDney cOftlln<;l In fror- th....dd.itlon41 sourc....

24 to 4CCOunt tor tIl4t 4/lI(lunl.

2.'> MS. BliSSETT: It SOUndll like -- Mr.

,

•

que,lion' at lhll ... itnllll'?

Hr H.utlne!?

the proqr....s T_h .. t ..t .. In pl..ce do nOt In our

I HCGill. sound, like your conc..rn ...re th... 1.. the bud<;lets

2 4'. on" 101"..1 sho... Title II ....nd. then ••nother le""l

3 mill the dllp.rllllent, 4nd 110 you 4re trying to decipher

4 ...hich Is re411y Title II Inconle ..nd ellpllndltore, "ersUII

S the relt of the dep4rtll...nr·" lncOllle.

MR. I'IcGILL: Th.. t·1 correct., looking for

1 the dll/'t..lle on the Tltl.. II oper... tlng permlt1.

8 MS. BA.SSETT~ Mghl.

9 MR. McGILL: NOli. 1 h... " .. he4rd the t ......

10 "oper4tlng pemlltll~ kind of being ueed 411 ... 'ilener"l

11 ten- In ...- o~ the 4n.lI..re to que.lione, 4nd perh4ps

12 Hr. M4"tlne~ 4nd I need to <;let together 4nd dl.cole

13 this .. little torther. but 1 411I 4 llttle cOn fUlled. on

J 4 th.. feder..l 11'" ..1. you h ..ve Tltle II oper... tlnq pet1ll1tll

1.'> th.. t 4re not r ..gul.. ted. the II\olIlner In IInich ..... ~or

16 1I0urce. Op..r4te, t.hen I belle"e th4t the 10c"'1 bo4rd

:. 1 h...... minor lource oper... ring penllits or 1I00rCee th... t

18 ..r .. deslqn.. ted "II 9m4l1er 900rce•• nol'llft4jor lIoorcee,

19 4nd I 4tll he"ring -- if IIh... t 1 411I he4rlng 19 correct,

20 the term "operating peDllltl" 19 belnq "pplled to both

21 letll of lIoorcell, "nd. In my mind. there 111 .. cle4r

22 distinction betlleen Title II ", jor louree vereull --

23 th4t'l re9U14ted by hder41 1 venoe .. 10c"1 rdnor

2& lource oper.. tlng penalt pr0<;lr4lll.

2S THE H!ARIMG OFFICBR: My other

1 cOnflgur4t1on, becau!!e ot etlglne.. rJ.ng to th.. depth

2 than the 100·ton 1I0urc... ,,0 1n 1.h.. budget, lie don't

3 dll1tlngulsh betll..e" One or the oth"r, but lie do

4 underlt4nd th... t tnere 111 "peclt1c fed..r41 requIrement.

5 in Tltl" II lor major ROUrc"s ...nd. thel'l, the other

Ii r ..qulrerllents b."lcaUy ar lthln our requl... tory

1 etructur•• "hlch. aqaln, re al"o red.. r ... lly

8 entorc..able.

!J 1 do ....nt to poInt OUt one thing, that at one

JO polnt, "e dld. trOlll the budget, set up 1n th.t ta"hlon

11 IIhere lie ba"lcal1y took on.. Inlp..ctor and 9dd "Ok.y.

12 ho... r-uch tlr1le do.." thl. In"pector "pend on "'lnor

13 'OUEce". hall "'uch tIme do... thll Inlp..ctor Ipend en

14 ..hat lie conalder gr..nr objectl"es. how much t1llle doe.

lS thl, Inllpector ,pend ov~r TItle II 4nd ho... lIIuch tIme

16 COlt tnls Inspector 9Pf'nd on cIty lll,.ue9," ...nd ..0 ..hat

t1 lie h4"e h.d In our budget.. lie h..ve bulc.lly cloile nOli

LB to 30 people and "01 have, yoU kno... three qU4rters of

19 tho"e people b,,"lcal1y broken out into okay, thill'

20 per"on, you knOll. ke"pl their t1llle .. nd cb.rg.... 25

21. percent to 1h1l budget ...nd .. nother 2S percent, you

22 kno.... "0 it. 11.11 ba"lc.lly • bUd.q.. tary niqht"..re to do

23 th.t. and 10 "e "aId "Let·" :lult bre.k It up .Lnto

24 group'" IIhich is op..r.tlng penalt". 4nd. then. grant

25 objectlv....nd the peopl.. that. ...ork on grant

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1 Ob1<11ct111." ",lv. it to the qc.. ntll,n IfhJc:h 1. -- you

2 1L1l0", which b4.. 1"411y account. for ..bout 10 percent ot

3 ..hat we 'let p.lld tor, and, then, the p-ople 'IIhic:h 111

4 the ,,,,aUer group th..t specifiedly ",ock on the

oper:allnq p4!tIIlll l!IDuell 'let p&ld out or that and, Y.',

6 there' ...n In.poector that .. 111 'pend tillle on Till .. V•

., t1me on resource., <lnd, l.hen. time on aBbe,to"

9 blIC4U'.! only halle one lll_peetor roc b'UlcaUy .. 11

':I tour ace..., and 10, you knOll, we try to spread chat 411

10 equally"'9 polllllble. but ... c:holtq.. It cO 011. f~ne.

11 1 alii not lure that,lIlakell' .. lot o[ IlInllll, but

12 it you could 1...g1ne. J "ould hall" to qo back and s ..y

IJ ~Ok.y. and "" cUI do that, we hall" dOlle that in the

14 p••t. because we did .n .udlt on "here everybody

~~ spendl th"ir tllli" .."d th.r'l b ..lIlc.lly "here the 1991

16 r .. te c tror-.. "nd. you k"o... O1.. t· ...here the "UlQ.ber

11 came fro but ill thl. p.rticul.r c.le, .... dldn't '10

19 to th.. t le..e1 bec.use ... felt Ul.t ve .ddceued it

19 back in 1991, and you s.id -- .nd, .'1.1n ..... don't

20 e"pect to qet .ny 1lI0A Vi..11 ..h.t "e did tn '91...e

21 jult ...pect to p.y the bills. b ••!c.lly.

22 THE HUoRIHG OFFICSR: ""y oUler

23 questloll' tor the eitne.n

24 Mr. McGIll, .... th.llk you lor your tim...nd

2~ your tuUmony.

1 EJlhlhlts 1 ..n:! 2. 1 belnq the ...-lttell lelltilllony. 2 11

2 the three-p..qe doco.wtlellt.

J HA.. SMITH: YOu ....nt to ul" your

4 coplen

THE HEARING OFFICER: Y@,. Anythlr.q

6 further. Mr. SIIllth?

Memblllrs of lbe Do..rdl

MS. aASSf:.T'rl I just ....lit to th..nk you

9 ..11 for ap"lIdlllq your v ..lelltll1e's e""1I1nq ,,10th uS ..lid

10 I hope f.h .. t you ale celebr.atlllq v .. lelltllle·. O..y

11 LOIllOrro" ..lIlInll1q ..ith your husband'. or partlleci.

12 "than~. for all your time and hallqlnq out all

\] nIght ..lth UI.

It "tHE HBARIHG OFFIC£II.: Ok..y. I'd aho

l~ Uk.. to thank the court reporter, Ms. lI.Opa.II. for threll

16 "'nd a hair houn of noutop typinq. I apoloqiZll, I

11 should h.."e as~ed you lI..rlier if you ..ere okay alld

HI needed. bre.k.

19 1 "ould alllO Ihe to thallk the city st.U ••

20 ..lw.ys for their "olld..rful profllsllon.llslll••nd, Mr.

21 9mlth. thank you to you IIlId your .. tart. I'd Ihe to

22 th.nk the ho..rd tor .110"ll1q llIe to ..ct .... he.. r!nq

23 ottlcer.

24. It Is 8148 p.lII. The he.rinq 1" .. djourlled.

2~ Th.nk you all.

HR. McGIl.L: Th.. llk you I/ery mueh.

2 l'HE HBARING OFFtCI!:R: Doe" .ny oth.. r

J lntllrlllted pereon or p.rty h .."e testllllOny th.. t th"y

4 ..ish to qi"e to thll bo.rd or pr.lent to the record,

S .nd if 90, pI....... Itep for....rd.

" Ok.y. 'rhere beillq 110 furUler partIe. qil/inq

1 t .."tllllOIlY, at thi. ti.llle, Ulat pon.ioll of the he"rinq

B "ill be eloled. Detorll"e .djourll, ..q.in, the

9 cO/llllOntl section lor thie propo.lld Vi'O .nd repi.c....ent

10 is open until Febru.ry 26th .t S:OO p.m.

11 Pie••e "ubrlJ.t tho.e c~ellt. to Mr. SIIlith oIt

12 the EII"ironment.i Health Depa.rtrl\llnt directiy or oIt

IJ P.O. 80. 1293, Albuqu..rque, iii.... Mexico, 91103, they

14 .. 111 bo! adlll.lttlld .. ellhiblt•.

15 All e.hibiu sllblllitted to lIIll hereby are

:., ..dlII.l tted Into thll rolconl, and. r"lIIeIIlber, lr1111edi.tely

11 after thll he.rlnq 1.. close4 toniqht. thll Air 80"I'd

18 ..Ill hold It" mOllthly m" .. tillq; ho....".r••q41n. this

19 r.qul.tlon 2 ..IIi not be on the .'1end. tor the bo.rd

20 meetillq.

2! Kr. 5rIl1th, oIl1ythinq turther?

22 MR. SMI'rH: I ..... jUlt • llule

23 confu.ed. Mr. MeGill' .. e"idence is In thll record1

TH!. IlEAAHlG OrrICO: Yes. 1 h."e lUrked

2!> my COpill. or Rio Gr.nde Portland Cement COI'poration

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1 STAn or NP MEXICO :

: ss. Il.Ii:PORTeR'S Cl;ItTU'YCATE

J COUNTY 0,. llKlUlAL.ILIA:! :

• 1. the undeulqaed COUE:t Reporter, H.EUBl'

c:.r.RTIFl' that the rOAqolnq h••rlruJ VIII E:ecorcl.ed by lilt!

8 the rOJ:tlqolnq 11 .. true 4f\d "'ecurAte r1Ilcord. to the

10 I ttmTHI!R CERTIl'Y that 1 &JII not .. n:l.tlytl or

11 _plOY•• or any DE: t.he poII:tl... or attorneys lnYol"ed

13 the Und <thpolltlOn ot thll /ft4tttlr.

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ATTACHMENT D

The amended role as published in the New Mexico Register on May 31, 2001, Volume

XII, Number 10

http://www.nmcpr.slale.nm.us/nmregisler/
,..

New Mexico Register I Vol. XII, No.10 I May 31, 2001 423

(8) My poreon requosllng profoooionel or

admlnietratlY8 services.

A. Applicability:

(I) My pereon required to obtain 0 pormll

purouont to 20.11.42 NMAC, Operating

Permtts;

(2) My pereon required to oblain a pennll

purouont to 20.11.41 NMAC. Authority""-

Construct;

(3) Any porean with 0 void reglotro~on or

pennll ilSued purouont 10 20.11.40 NMAC,

Source Roglo1rotlon, 20.11.41 NMAC,

AuthOrlty-to-Conotrucl, or 20.11.42 NMAC.

OponItIng Porm1t8;

(4) My _ requootlng a Surlaco

DlsturbonCo Ponnll purouont 10 20.11.20

NMAC. AI~mo POI1ICuloto M~

(5) My poreon reqUired 10 provldo

n_tIon _nllng removing regulotsd

oo_ contoIning motartol purouont to

20.11.84 NMAC. Emiaolon Ston_ for

Hazardous Air Pollutants for S1aIIonatY

Soul'C8l; and

A. "Indirect co." means: a pGreentBg8

applied to 0 contract amount which

repT8S8ntB costs inculT'Bd by a project

difflcull to IIIlCllItBIn _ spoc:tficlly ;

B. "trlb8I government" m88n8: 8

8ovBr8lgn entity consIsting of a Pueblo,

Apache. or Novo]o govomment operating In

part within tho Sla18 of Now MexIco.

[9.2.20.7 NMAC - N, &'31J'2001}

9.2.211.8 INDIRECT COST

1l1o staIo Agoncf on Aging will oIlow en

indil'8Cl: cost In seMC8 oontrB.ct8 wtth bibal

govemments of up tol0 % .. d0\8nninod

on en spodfic contract blSlo. provtded

further thot tho bibol ontlty hIS 0 _rally

opp_ Indll8Cl coot _ In p1oco on Moy

31. 2001. No Indll8Cl coots oholl be oIlowod

In conotruetIon controcIo. [9.2.20.8 NMAC -

N. 513112001]

HISTORY OF 9.2.20 NMAC

[RESERVED]

C, USDA cosI1 muot only b8 uoed 10

purcl1000 food which io grown or procooood

In tho Unllod StaIoo. Caffoo. teo,

<*8lfoInotsd beYerag.. end fruits end

vegolIIbl.. grown outoido of tho U.S. ore

nat USDA relmbul"Uble;

D. GranIB lor nutrttlon _ provided

uNter the Older Americans Ad, U

omended, ere nat reduced when USDA

oaoisIanCO levels Inc......

[9.2.18.17 NMAC - Ap. SAA Rule 95-18

sec.ll. &'31J'2001}

HISTOlIY OF 9.2.18 NMAC

f'!8oNMAC HIlIIoIy. SAA RlAo 95-18.

NutrIIIon Sorvl_ Ston_, IIIed 41131'l995.

Hlotllly of RopaoIed MaIllr1al: SAA Rule 95-

18. NutrtIIon SorvIceo _, ftIod

411311995.

Other H10101y. 9.2.18 NMAC, Nutrition

_OM Stondordo. 0_0 &'31J'2001 -

roploood SAA Rule 95-18, filed 41131'l995.

However, only TItIo III funded 9.2.20.7 D!!FINmONS 20.11.2.2 SCOPE

P"'llrams ere ollglblo to roc:oIvo USDA

peio18nC8; Ao uoed in thlo pert

NEW MEXICO

STATE AGENCY ON AGING

'IIa. 8 Human RigID

Ch....... 2 Ago

PIIUO Inclrect Coello TrIboI EnIIlIeo

9.2:l0.1 ISSUING AGEHC'f

Now _ _ />qency on Aging.

[9.2.20.1 NMAC-N, &'31J'2001J

9.2.20.2 SCOPE

ThI. part eppIl.. only 10 cont.- _ bibal govern",""",. [9.220.2 NMAC - N.

&'3112oo1J

9.2:lO.3 STAlVTORY AUTHORITY

SocIion 28-4-ll NMSA 1978. [9.2.20.3

NMAC- N, &'31J'2001]

9.2.20.4 Duration

Permonont [9.2.20.4 NMAC - No &'31120011

9.2:lO.8 EFFEcnVE DATI!

May 31, 2001, unl_ 0 leter d..- 10 cttod

ot tho end of 0 _no [9.2.20.5 NMAC -

N, &'31J'2001]

9.2.20.8 OBJECTlVE

The purpoH of thi8 regula:tion Ie tD

_1011 tho _ to which tho _

Agency on AgIng will recognize i_

costs in contl'&Cl8 with tribal governments.

[9.2.20.8 NMAC - N. 6/31J'2001]

NEW MEXICO

ALBUauERQU~ERNAULLO

COUNTY AIR QUALITY

CONTROL BOARD

TIlle 20 EnvironmentalP_

Chop\llr 11 Albuquorq_I\lo

COunty Air QuoIIty ConInlI

- PllrI2 __

This octIon ropaoIs 20 NMAC 11.02.

Pormil fMo. which woo ftled with tho s_

Rocordo eo_ end Arch_ on am-r

'rI, 1995, _ en ofIoctIye dote of

Docombor 1, 1_, end repillClld _

20.11.2 NMAC ofIoctIye July 1, 2001.

NEW MEXICO

ALBUQUERQU~ERNAUUWO

COUNTY AIR QUALITY

CONTROL BOARD

~o20 Envl~m~P~

ChopIw 11 Albuqll4tftlU8"Bemollllo

County Air auollty Control

Port 2

-

Permit F_

20.11.2.1 ISSUING AGENCY

AlbuquolquolBomolillo County Pl.r Quaily

Control 8oonl. Envlronmonlal Hoolth

Doper1mol1~ P.O. Box 1293, Albuquerque.

NM 87103. Toiephone: (50S) 788-2800.

[20.11.2.1 NMAC- Ap, 20 NMAC.ll.02.1.1.

711J'20011

B. ExBmpt Thla Poll doeo nat opply 10

8OUl'COO within Bomolilio County thot ere loca1ad on Indlen lando eMIr which tho

AlbuquorquolBomollllo Counly Pl.r Quality

Control Soanl_Jurladlcllon.

C. VOIianco: My perean moy requoot 0

Umoly vorionco Ii:> thlo Part In ocr:ordonco

_ Vorionoo Procodu.... 20.11.7 NMAC,

noIlowod by fedoral, slate or IocoIlewo end

regulationo.

[20.11.2.2 NMAC - Ap. 20 NMAC

11.02.1.2 &. 20 NMAC 11.02.1.8, 7/1J'2001]

20.11.2.3 STATUTORY AUTHORITY

ThI. Part Ia odoptod pureuont 10 tho

outhorIty pIOYIdod In tho Now _ Air

QuoIIty M NMSA 1978 SocIIono 74-2-4,

74-2-15; tho Joint Air QuoIlty Control 800nl

OnlInonoo, BomoIIIIo County Ordlnonoo 94-5

SocIIono 3 end 4; end tho Joint AIr Quollty

Control Board Ordinance, ReviBSd

Ortlinoncoo of Albuquerquo 1994 SOcIIon 9-

5-1-3 end SocIIon 9-5-1-4. [20.11.2.3 NMAC

- Rp, 20 NMAC 11.02.1.3, 7f1I2OO1J

2O.11.2A DURATION

Ponnenont. [20.11.2.4 - Rp, 20 NMAC

11.02.1.4.7f1J'2001}

20.11.2.5 EFFEcnvE DATI!

July 1. 2001, un_ a Iol8r _ 10 ctt8d ot

tho end of 0 socIIon or_"'Ph. [20.11.2.5

NMAC~ Rp, 20 NMAC 11.02.1.5. 7f112OO1

20.11.2.8 OBJECTIVE:

A. To Impternent the requinllT1ents of 74-

2-7 NMSA by oalabll.h1ng:
424 New Mexico RegisterI Vol" XII, No" 10 I May..3.1.,2.0;;0.1 _

I..

(') Reasonable _ to cover tile COlI of

reviewing an6 acting on any penn~

appllcetlon reoe/Yed by tile Department;

(2) Reasonable _ to cove' the COlI of

implementing and enfordng the terms and

conditions of any penn~ lseued by tile

Department; and,

(3) A schedule of operating penn~ - conslo1Bnt _ lection 502(b)(3) of Cl_

Air Ad end the Joint Air Quality Co_I

Boord Ordlnan_;

B. To Implement tile requl_ of _ 5rI7 of tedeJ'lll Clelll Air Ad by

_ls/lIng edeqUlte funding for I "mall

business stationary IOUrce technical and

envIronmentel canpllance _

program; and

C. To _1I1h _Ie_ to cover

tile administrative _nlll InCllmed by the

Depertment In Implementing and enforcing

the provllions of the New MuJco Air

QuoIlty Control Act, the Joint Air Qusllty

Control Board Ordinances. and the

Albuquerque/Bemsllllo County Air QUlIIty

Control Boord Reguletlonl.

D. This Part Is pennensnt However. a

_I mor<ls\O!y .-of the pennft lee r&glJIablbe oonductlld by tile Board _n twoyear pe~od-Ircm tile date of 1doptkIn,

[20,11.2.6 NMAC - Rp, 20 NMAC

11.02.1.6.7/112OO1J

20.11.2.7 DEflNI11ON8

Throughout thle Part, the tanns defined

lJIlsil have tile toIlowing mesnlngl. For the

purposa of thll Part, " t/leIe II any appetanl

conflict _ tile mesnlng of a daflnl1lon

In thbI Part and 8 deflnlUon In another Part,

the definition In thll Part lhall pl1Mlil and

apply.

A. "AI_ EmlsaIon RslB" """"" tile

most IlItngent emillion NmIt Ihat hili been

established by a permit. _ by tile

Depertmsnl ortile _I potanIIaI_.

B. -Emleslons Unit" I"I"'I8lInI any part or

aetMly of a stsIIonary or po_ source

lIlat emila or hal the pot8ntiaI to em~ any

faa pollutant

C. -Fee Pollutanr "1881"1I:

(1) SulfurdlOldde (SOle);

(2) Nitrogen dioxide billed on totsI oxides

01 nitrogen (NOX);

(3) CsrtJon monox/de (CO);

(4) Particulate mmmr with an aerodynamic

diarnet8r' I.. than or equal to 30

ntk:Nt.oets.'8 (TSp);

(5) Any vollllia organic compound 18

daflned In 40 CFR 51.100(1),18 smendad;

(6) Any hszanloUl sir' pollutant llated

PUllluant to ll8c:tIon 112(b) of the FedeJ'lll

Clean Air Act; and,

(7) Any regulated substance no1Bd

pUllluant to soctIon 112(1) 01 tile ledeJ'lll

Clasn AirAct.

(8) Any other pollutant detennined by tile _ altar pub/Ic has~ng.

D. "Fuglllva Emlaslons" mesns _

ernillllonl 1I1al cannot .....onlbly p&II

through I _ chimney, vent, or other

lunctIonsity equ~opening.

E. "Mljor Souros" Ihsll have the maenlng

defined in 40 CFR 71.2.

F. "Potentlal-To-EmIl" or "PTE" means the

mulmum capacity of 8 stationary source to _ any sir pollutant under III pI1yIIIcaI Ind

ope_ design. Any physlcal or

ope_ IImllltion on the CIpIdty of

source to ern" an air pollutant, Including air

pollution oontroI equipment, _onl on

hours of operation or on type or amount of

maleJ1aJ combUltad, stored or procesead,

shsll be t_ as part of III dellign K

IntegJ'lll to the proc:esa or tile IIm~on 10

lederslly enloroslble through penn" or

rvguIatlon. Any limitation on emissions due

to proc:esa design mUlt be unchanging and

una_e phystcsl constraints. The

potanlIsI·to-em" tor n~rogen oxide shall be

beaed on tDtsI oxIdeo of nitrogen.

G. "QusIlfled Small BUllnose" rtlMnl;

(1) A bUlln_ 1I1al hili 100 or _r empioy_;

(2) \s e small bUllnaes conosm as defined

by the _J'III Smsll Bulin...Act;

(3) Does not em" mora then 50 tons per

yaer of any regulated sir poIlutent, or 75 tons

per yaer of sli regulatad sir pollutants; IIld

(4) II not I mojor source of haZardous sir

pollutan1ll.

H. "Regulated Air PoIlutsnr means the

following;

(1) Nitrogan oxides, totsl auspended

pertlCIllllla matter, or any volatile organic

compounds;

(2) Any pollutant for which a national,

s_ or IocsI smb/ant sir qusl~ _rd

has bean promuiglltad;

(3) Any pollutant !hit Ie lubJect to any _ astabI_ In SldIon 111 of the

F_Act;

(4) Any CI... I or II substance lubject to

any ltandard astabIlohad In T111a VI of the

ladeJ'lll Act; or

(5) Any pollutantsubJecl to I standarda or

requlrements astabIllhad In Sec:t1on 112 of

the _J'III Act, including:

(I) Any pollutant IUbject to requirements

under Sactlon 1120> of tile -.;Act; and

(b) Any pollutant tor which ,the

requlremantB of soctIon 112(g)(2) of the

_J'III Ad hIve bean met, but only _

raspact III the Ind1vlduol lOUros lubject to

the requlr8menta.

I. "St8t& Air Toxic Review" means a C88...

by-caaa penn~ sppllcetion review of the

potantIaI emlaslons of toxic sir poIlutan1II

IIsled In 20.2.72 NMAC, ConatructIon

Permits. S_on IV, Pannlll tor TOldc

Air Pollutant Emissions.

J."SIaIIonary SotJIaJ .. De Mlnlmlo

Emluions" mearw. a 1IOUrCII, ...,1eBa

otherwise regulatad, ..apotentIaI-Io-«ntt

(1) l.aIa tIlen 5 tons per yaer of any .ragulalBd sir pollutant, excluding hazaJdoUI

sir pollutants;

(2) l.asa than 2 toni per )'HI' of any

hazardous sir pollutant;

(3) 5 tons or lea of any combination of

hazardous sir pollutants per year, or

(4) 20 percent of any _ threshold per

yaer for a slngie haZardous sir pollutant

astabIiahad by the Environmental Pro1BcIIon

Agerrt:y by rule.

[20.11.2.7 NMAC - Rp. 20 NMAC 11.02.1.7,

71112OO1J

20.11.2.8 SAYINGS CLAUSE

Any amanaman! III 20.11.2 NMAC 1I1al 10 flied _ tile _ Reco!dI C&ntar lhail not

_ ldIons pending for violation of a

_J'III or__orragutation, a CIty or

County on:IInance. or any Board ragulB1lon.

Prosecution tor I _on under prlor

regulation wonflng shall be govemad It1d

proaecuted under the 11a1U18. ordinance, part or ragullllon _ In effect It the time the

vtoIaIIon _ commlltad. [20.11.2.8 NMAC -

Rp, 20 NMAc 11.02.1.9, 711120011

20.11.2.8 SEVEIlABIUTY

"any _, peregrsph, santancs, c11lU18

or word of thil Part or _J'III, _ or Ioc:sI

_ Incorpollltad hel8ln Ie for any

reason held to be unconstilullOnai or

otherwise Invalid by any court, the decillion

lJIlsIl not effect the validly of the remsJning

provisions of thle Part [2O.11.2.g NMAC -

Rp,20 NMAC 11.02.1.10, 7/112OO1J

20.11.2.10 DOCUMENTS

Docum8nll cItad and Incorporated In this

Part may be Y1_ It the A1buquerqua

EnY1nnnenta1 Health Department, One Clvtc

Plaza NW, 3rd Roor, Room 3023,

Albuquerque. NM 87102. [20.11.2.10 NMAC

-Rp, 20 NMAC 11.02.1.11, 71112OO1J

20.11.2.11 GENERAL PROVlSlON8

A. At the time of appllcetlon, any person,

Including a _J'III, .- or iocal
01 20.11.2.14

C. Parmtt Modlfleollonl:

(1) At tha Uma of application, any oouroa

proposing lD modify sri axlating air quality

pannh ahoJl pay tho appIlcabla faa found In

sectfon 18 of this Part.

(2) Arry propoaad modlfloatlona to an

axIating oJr quoJlty parmlt that muot oomply _ tha provlolono 01 20.11.80 NMAC,

Pennltttng In Non-Attainment Area,

20.11.81 NMAC, Pravantion 01 Significant

DalsrIol1l1lon, 20.11.82 NMAC, AcId RaIn,

20.11.83 NMAC, Naw Souroa Parfonnanoa

Standardl for Ststlonl"y SourtaB. or 20.11.64 NMAC, EmIaaIon _ fo'

Hazanloua Air Pollutanlo for S1BtIonal)'

Souroao, tho applicant shall oJoo pay tha

applicallla _rei review faa, but only wtth

I88pacl lD tha IndMduoJ amloolon unit

lubjact to tho requiremant

D. Quallf1ad oman buallllIltIl Ihall pay onahall 01 tho calcu10lad caaa-by-oaaa oJr quoJlty """,ow _ p~or lD adding any Iad_

prognun I'8YIew or 8'IIIt8 toxic nMew feel.

[20.11.2.12 NMAC - RD, 20 NMAC

11.02.1I.1,7I112OO1J

20.11.2.13 ANNUAL EMISSION FEES; FEE

CALCULAllONS AND PROCEDURES

A. By Juno 1 01_ year, tho Dapartmont ohaII lM01d _ ......rIoporator .a _

atatIng tha foe amount owad. 1ha _

oporo1Dr hoe 45 dayo from raoaIpt 01 tha

_lD oonIlIcl tho Dapartmont lD requaot a

correctIOil to the I8COrQa or submit an

BA*:otIon lD modII'f an _ng parrrIt

-.gthooouroa'a"_ amaatan_.

B. StartIng AugU01 1 01 aacII year, aacII

ownarfopara1Dt Bhell ba eont an offtcloJ

Involoa by tha CIty 01 AlbuqualllUB a1a~ng

the lIrtnual emission fee due. which the

ownarfoparalDr lholl pay oonolatont wtth tho

dlrectlonsl'tlDd In thllnvolce.

C. Aa required by 74-2-18 NMSA, oJl

mania received pUl'luant to thIs 88CtIon

Bhell ba d8p08it8d In tho City 01

Albuquarqua, Parmlla Program (FUnd 24.2).

O. Calculating Annual emission Feee:

(1) For aacII oouroa, tho polIIntlal-to-emll

for aoch faa pollutant lhell ba _ad and

up_ In 1Dno par coJanclar yaar eo a

whole numl»r. When rounding, H the

number after the decimal point 18 I..than

8, tha whola numbat' remolno unchangad.

the number aftBr the decimal point 18 5 or

greater, the whote nln1ber shall be rounded

up to next whole number.

(2) Tha lum 01 aach faa pollutant Bhell ba

mul1lpllad by tha approprfata annuoJ

amlO8lon faa Uatad In 88C1lon 1801 thIa Part

then totaIad, to datsrmlna tha annuoJ

smiseJon fee due.

B. eaaa-byoCaH Air QuoJlty Ravlew PrIor

lD tho Conotrucllon oIa S1BtIon&I)' Souroa:

___

(1) oJr quoJlty application , ba calculated baaad on tho

proposed source's potentlaI-to-emIt tee

poIluIantB. FadareHy apprtMtd StaIB

Implementrdion Plan limitations may be used

to detennina a source's .potentjaI-.1D-emlt

(2) Fug_ amloslana shell ba Includad In

the source's potBnUaJ-to-emit.

A. Ganarel Parmlta for Minor and Area

Souroao: Souroao appIytng for a Ganarel

Parmij punlU8I1llD 20.11.41 NMAC, AuthorIty1D-Conatruct, ohoJl pay tho applloabla faa

folRt In aacIIon 18 01 thlo Part

(3) EmIoaIono from opai_. daloo".&d

by tho Daportnant lD ba InaigrjIIoanl 0CIMIlIa

ahoil not ba Includad In tho calculation.

(4) For aoch foe pollutant, oaIcuIlItIt tho potantlaI-1lHlmh for__ami8alDn

untt lD tho ....-tanth 01 I lDn. Total tho

faa poIlulBnta from _ amloolon uri! and

_ tho valua In lDna par oaJondar year

a a whole number. WIw'l rounding, if the

numbar _ tha dadmoI point II ,..than 5,

tho whola numbar remoina unchangad. "tho numbar _ tho __ point Ie 5 or

grootw, tho whoIa numbar _I ba roundad

up to118Ill_nunDr.

.(5) Tha appl_on _ faa ohoJl ba

datormlnad by comparing tho oouroa'l

calcLJatad polIIntlaJ.lo.amlt with tho faa

_ula found In aacIIon 18 01 thle Part.

(8) In __ lD tho application _

fooa, a looroo propooJng lD cona1Ncl any

amlaoJon untt or unIIa that must ccmply with

tha provialono 0120.11.80 NMAC, Parmltllng

In NonotIolnmanl Areeo, 20.11.81 NMAC,

ProvontIon 01 SlgnItIoant Datortora1lon,

20.11.82 NMAC, AckI ReIn, 20.11.83 NMAC,

New Souroa· Parformonoa _ for

StoUonBJY SOuroao, or 20.11.64 NMAC,

Ernla8lon Standardl for I-I8DrdoU8 AIr

PoIlulBnta for SIalIonBJY Souroao oJoo _I

pay tho appII_ IadantI progrem _

_ IIatad In aacIIon 18 oIthll Part

(7) Exompla: A ccmpany proposas lD

build a facility _ a NSPS boIlar wtth a

polIIntlaJ-to-amlt 01 greatsr than 100 toni

par year 01 NO><. From tho faa ltChadula

found In aoctIon 18 of thla Port, tho

oompany wtll ba required lD pay an Inl1loJ oJr

quoJlty revlaw foa 01 $5,000.00 with an addition _rei program revlow faa 01

$1,000.00 for tho NSPS bollar, for a _

tee of $8,000.00. The l'8View fee shall be

lubmitlad at tho _ 01 application In

accordance wtth tt"e proceduru fOlnd in

auboacllona E and F 0120.11.2.11 NMAC.

(8) Souroao lubmlltlng an application for

tho rarnovoI 01 ragulatod as_oontoIning _ pU18uant lD 20.11.64 NMAC _I

: No lao required by 'thlo Part ahall ba

. _ou! tho wrtttan approval 01 tha

r. \Yhen determIning the amount of

'-'und, tho Dll8C1Dr may daduct a

P_ionol eo""oa faa lD

u;- costa 01 a1aff ~ma InvoIYBd In

ng a permit or request.

.11.2.11 NMAc - N, 7/112001]

B. Arty new or existing stationBIY source

that maato tho appilcalllilty requlremanto 01

thIs Part shan pay an annual emIselon fee

baled on tt"e source'. poterrtl8J-to-emlt.

Sou""", wtohlng lD reduco their polIIntloJ·

IJ>1mtt may do 00 at any ~mo through tho

provlalono 01 20.11.41 NMAC, Authortly-toConstruct.

______..N..8W....Miiie.x.lc..o..R..egl8ter I Vol. XII, No, 101 MaY",,3.1.., ..200_1 4.;;25,;,

govommontal agency, who flleo an 20.11.2.12 AUTHORITY·TO-CON8TIlUCT ccmply with tho pruvIoIore

opplleollon PU18uont lD 20.11.41 NMAC, PEIlMIT FEES; FEE CALCULATIONS NMAC.

Authortty·!o-ConBlrucl, for an Inl1loJ air AND PROCEDURES

quoJlty review and outhortty lD p_ with

oonotructIon or requoatlng lD modll'f an

axiating oJr quoJily parmlt shell pay tha

parmij faa required by thia Part.

C. At tho lima 01 oubmltlol, any _ filing

an application for a Surfaal Dlall"llanoa Parm~ _ tho Dapartmant purauanl lD

20.11.20 NMAC, Alrboma P8IIIcuiala _,

_, pay tha appIloab1a filing and inapactlon

faa required by thle Part.

D. At tho ~a 01 notlflcatlon, any pareon

notifying tha Dapartmont. pU18uant lD

20.11.64 NMAC, EmIAIon Slondardo for

Hazardoua Air Pollutants for StatIon8l)'

,. Souroa, 01 tho rornovoJ 01 regulaltld

l,: - oontaInlng matartal ahall pay tho

\~ appIlcabla foa required by thle Part

E. No application wtll ba revI_ Dr

permit isaued unlela the owner/operator

provIdBl documontory prool,oatIsIac1Dry lD

tha Dapartmont that aIthor oJl opplicallla _ have baan poJd .. required by thll

Part or tho ownarfopo-. hoe baon

grontod a varfanoa In BDDDrdonoa wtth

20.11.7 NMAC, Var1anoa Prooaduroo. ,

, F. AI _ required lD ba paid at tho lima 01

; app__ba paid by c:t1ad< or rncntY

Old... payaIlIa lD tho 'CIty 01 AlbuqUBlqua, Psrmlta Progrem (FlRt 242)' and _ ba • _ In _ lD tho ErM....-

•- Dapar1mant, F1nanoa SacIIon, 3nl floor,

Abm 302l, AlbuqUBlquar1lamallllo County

GcNammant Contw (CIty HoJ~, 0r8 CMc

PIoza 'NoI, Albuquarqua, NM, or moJIad lD AlIn:_ Bacilon, ErMronmontoJ _

lloi>or1mart. P.O. Box 1293, AlbuqualllUB,

.NM 81103. Tha F1nanoa -.than ahaII

'And a _pt lD tho appIIoanl. Tho appIIoant ,_a oopy 01 tha raoaIpt _ by tho

•

F1nanoa Sactlon lD tho appIIoalion as proof 01

Tho Air Quality DIYIoion oamot

ciractpaymanlB.

~~. No p&1"8On required to pay an annual

)lIlon fee pUl'luant to this Part shall be

.compliance wtth their permit unl... all

Icobll _ 018 paid eo reqUired by thlo
may be

(20.11.2.16I11MAC - N. 7/112OO1J

20.11.2.17 FAILURE 10 PAY

B. StatIng an II"IYOIce Is In error shall not

be B defense to thIS I8CI:lon.

A. It sholl be a v1olel!on 01 thlo Perl to fail

10 pay lI1y lee roquired by thlo Pert,

Directo(o declolon. or Board regulaUon.

C. In oddltlon to paying pool due 1_ the

payor ohaU pay a penally 01 50 percent 01

the fee amount. plus Inter88t on the fee

amount computed In a:x:ordence with

eecUon 6621 (0)(2) 01 the Intemal RlMlnUO

Code 01 1986 (l'Ilill1lng to cornputaUon 01

In_on undarpayment oI_reI texee).

[20.112.17 IllMAC - Rp, 20 IIIMAC

11.02.112,7/112001]

20.11.2.18 FEE SCHEDULe

A. Annuol Em~ Foee: Solm:eo looued

a rogIolnlUon or permit p_to 20.11.40

NMAC, Source Reglatrel!on, 20.11.41

IIIMAC, AUlhorIly.To-ConotnlCl, or 20.11.42

NMAC. Operll1lng -. _I psy a

mlnlmwn annual ."tasion fee of $150.00 or

the II1nual emloolon lee coIculeled

conolo1ent with _ 13 01 thlo Pert, which

war 10 grMter. The foIIcwIng !lie poIluIant

.-ohall be ueed In coIeulllltng the II1nuol

emlulon lee. unl... 1ia1ad:

(1) 1IIon-Hezerdoul Fee Pollutanta: $31.00 .

per ton;

(2) Hl8zaldouo Foe Pollutan1a (Non-Mojor

Sou....): $31.00 per ton;

(3) HezaJdouo Fee PoIIutan1a (Mojor

Sou....): $250.00 per ton

(4) Annuol EmI8llon FeN for Speclftc

Source categortoe:

(a) Auto Body Repair and Painting:

(I) ene Spray Sooth: No Charge

(II) Two or more _ bcotha: $150.00

(b) Chromium Electroplating: $150.00

(c) Dog....... Uolng Orgll1lc Sol_:

(I) Non~neted oolvento· uolng 1_

thll1 2.200 goIlono 01 ony one oolvant·

containing meterlal, and 5,400 goIlono 01

ony comblnll1lon 01 oolvenl-contalnlng

m8l8~oIa: $150.00

(II) Halogenated oolvents- uolng 1_ thll1

1,200 gallons on any one sotvent·

containing _, II1d 2,900 gollono 01

any combination of 8otvent-contalning

mete~aIs: $150.00

(d) DIY C18II18.. (IIIon·Mejo~:$150.00

(e) Emergency Generato..: $150.00

C. All feel due PUI1IUBnt to this sec1lon

ohall be paid In aooonlence with tha

procedUI'88 found In subsections C, E end F

0I20.11.2.11I11MAC.

[2O.112.15NMAC-1II, 7/112001]

20.11.2.18 FEE ERROIl8, CORREC1IONS

ANDRERJNDS

A. Within 30 daya 01 .-vtng ony i_ce

Irom the CIty, any peroon who dcea not

agree with the amount duo may roquoet a

nwlew by the Director to _ ony erro..

or challenge the baalo upon which the lee

woo computed. II the Diroctor hoo not

received B wrttI:en r&quHt or d\allenge

within 30 daya after the payor _ the

Invoice, the Invoice ohell be final.

B." feel are due at. the time of

appIlcallon, the peyor mUll pay the roqulred

fee, then r&queBt a raview wtthln 30 d8y8 of

paymenl

C. All W1ttten roquao1B for _ 011011 be

oent to: DlYlaJon Manager. AIr QuaJI1y

DMoion. E~ronmental Health D8pII1menL

AIr Quoll1y DlYIoIon, P.O. Box 1293,

Albuquerque, 11IM 87103

D. The r&quest tor reYlew must Include:

(1) The nerne 01 the owner/ope_r,

addrese and telephone number;

(2) The dollar amount 01 the alleged error,

and

(3) A doocrtptlon 01 the oIleged error and

any other Intonnatlon the payor bellevee

may support the claim.

E. WIthin 30 daya 01 .-vtng the roqueet

for nwlew, the OIr8dDr shall audit the

account and, either:

(1) Amend the invoice or blH II1d """nd

any monB'j' due the payor, or

(2) Stete the Invoice or bill 10 conect.

F. The Director may confer with the payor

to obtain eddIUonaI InfoonaUon du~ng the

aud~ pe~od.

G. WIthin 10 wo~ng dayo 01 the

DII'KlOr'1 decisIon concerning the nwlew,

the dectslon shall be sent by certified mall

to odd..... provided by the payor.

H. If B refund 18 due, ttl. Deparb'nent shall

rwfund ony money due conolotent with the

pellol. II1d procedureo 01 the CIty 01

Albuquerque.

428 New Mexico Revlater I Vol. XII, No.101 MaY"'3..1.,..2.0.01 _

(3) The lIO\ll'C8 _ pay oItIIer the B. The flUng II1d lnopectlon lee oheH be I. The Dlrecto(o decIolon

minimum II1nuoi omIu1on lee or the coIcuiated by mulUpIy\ng the _eto be oppeoled to the Board.

calculated emill8lon fee whichever Is grea1Br. disturbed. ex~ed as B whole number,

by the oppll_!lIe found In oecIfon 1801

ttis Part. When rounding, if the number

oftsr the declmel point 10 1000 thll1 5, the

whole number remains unchanged. If the

number after the decimal poInt is 5 or

greater, the whole number shall be rounded

up to the next whole number.

E. Soun:eo wishing to reduce their

poI8nUaI-to«nIt may appy for 0 perrott or modify their _g permit =-nt with

the provlolonO 0120.11.41 NMAC, Authorityt<>Qlnotnlcl

[20.11.2.13 IIIMAC - Rp, 20 IIIMAC

11.02.1I.2,71112OO1J

20.11.2.14 RUNG AND INSPECllON FEES

FOR THE REMOVAL OF REGULA1Bl

ASllESTOS CONTAINING MATERIAl.; FEE

CALCl'..AllONS AND PIIOC2IlURES

A. AI the Ume 01 _on. 0 flilng and

Inspec1lon !lie oholl be poId by the

ownor1~r",n1Illllng regulated _

oontoInlng rnelBrIoI pu"UII11 to 20.11.64

IIIMAC, Em~ _ tor H--..

AIr PoIlutllntB tor StatIonoIy Sou.... and the _ regulllltonol.-.po_ theroIn.

B. The fliing and IMp8Clion lee oholl be

coIcuioted by mulUpIy\ng the Ao_ Un«

(AU) by the applicable !lie In 20.112.18.'

EquoUon 1 ohall be uoed to coIculate the

tol8l Ao_ Unite (AU) ond amount due:

(1) ToI8I Due = [(SF /160) + (IF /260) +

(CF /35)], AU (Equotion 1)

(2) Whe..: SF = Squore f8et 01 00_ oontoInlng mate~oI to be remlMld: LF = Unear _ 01 _ oontoIning materill

to be remlMld; CF = Cubic _ 01"-

oontoInlng matertal to be remlMld; II1d AU

= Aobeltoo Unit

(3) Example: A contractor p.- to

..move 320 oqu... 'eet (SF). 260 linear

feet (IF) II1d 70 cubic _ (CF) 01

regulated ao_conl8lnlng metertal•..

(4) From the example ab<Ml: SF=32O;

LFo26O; CF=7O; and AU=$21.oo (From

odon 18 01 this Part)

(5) From equation 1: [(SF / 160) + (LF /

260) + (CF /35)] , AU = [(320 /160) + (260

/260) + flO /35)1' $21.00 = (2 + 1 + 2),

$21.00 = 5 ,$21.00= $105.00

(6) Reault The ~r mUll pay

$1 OS.OO at the time of notificatton.

C. All feee due purauant to this eecUon

ohall be paid In aooo_ with the

procedul'88 found In 8ublecllorw 0, E and F

0120.11.2.11 IllMAC.

(20.11.2.14 NMAC - Rp. 20 NMAC

11.02.11.2, 7/1120011

20.11.2.18 FlUNG AND INSPEC110N FEES

FOR SUlFACE DISTURBANCE PI!RIIIrS;

FEE CALCULA110NS AND PROCEDURES

A. A filing II1d I_on'ee oholl be poJd

by each pef80n requesting B Surface

Dieturbance Pennlt PUl1luant to 20.11.20

IllMAC, Alrbome PanIcuIale M_.

t,

L
20 NMAC

NEW MEXICO

BOARD OF BARBERS AND

COSMETOL.OGISTS

[20.11.2.18 NMAC - Rp,

11.02.11.2, 7/1120011

HISTORY OF 20.11.2 NMAC

R880I~on 1, Air PolI~on Contnll

Regul8llone 01 the A1bUquerquelBemallllo

County· Air Quality COntrol Boord, flied 8-

06-71;

Pnt-NMAC Hlltory: MeIllriei In the part

was derived Imm that previoueiy flied with

the commission of publIc records - lItIIt8

r&OOI"da center and archives under.

RegUlation 1. Air Pollution Control

Regulatlone, flied 8-06-73;

Reguletlon 1, Air PolI~on COntrol

Regulatlone. flied 7-1 9-73;

Regula1lon 1. Air PoII~on COnln>I

Regulatlone, flied 3-21-77;

Reguletion No. 21, Penn~ Feee, flied 3-

24-82;

ReguJedon No. 21. Pennn Feee, flied 8-

19-a3;

Regulellon No. 21. Penn~ Feee, flied 3-

010114;

Reguletion No. 21, Penn~ Feee. flied 12-

18-114.

HIstory 01 Ropealed Materlll: 20 NMAC

11.02. Penn~ F..., flied lG-27-g5.

Othor Hletory: Regule~on No. 21, Pennn

F..., Illed 12-18-114 renumbered _

_lied to 20 NMAC 11.02. Pennn

Feee. flied lG-27-95;

20 NMAG 11.02, Ponrlt F.... tiled lG-27-

g5 rapleced by 20.11.2 NMAC, Penn~

Feee. _711/2001.

May 15. 2001

Tha New Mexico Board of BBlbeI'8 and

Coemetologlots II rapeellng the following

ruin eftecttv8June 16, 2001:

18 NMAC 34.1 General Provilione

18 NMAC 34.2 Ucenllng

18 NMAC 34.3 Examine~one

18 NMAC 34.4 Speclei UOElI188II

18 NMAC 34.5 Regular Ucen...

18 NMAG 34.8 LJcenaing by Reciprocity.

cledn lor OUt-of-state Training

e. Penn~ Modlftcatlone:

(2) Photocopying:

(e) First 10 Pegao: $0.50 per pogo

(b) Addltlonei Pegeo: $1.00 per pago

(3) Reguletlon Complledon: $20.00

(1) P2 ModItIca~one:No Cherge

(2) MlllOJ/Flexible Pennn Modlftcatlone:

$1,000.00

(3) Mojor Modllk:allons: $5,000.00

(2) Propoood 10Urces wtth e polsntial-toemit equal to or greatBr than 25 tone per

year and than 50 tone per yeor.

$2,000.00

(3) Propoood IOUIC88 wtth a pobI~a1-toemit equal to or grest8r than 50 tore per

yeor _ 181I than 75 toni per

$3,000.00 .

(4) Propoood IOUIC88 wtth e potenIIei-toemit equal to or greater than 75 tone per

year and less than 100 tons per year.

$4,000.00

(5) Propoeed oources with e pots~ei-toemit equal to or greater than 100 tons per

$5,000.00

D. Federal Program and smts Toxic Air

Pollutant Roviow F ; In Addition to the A1rQual~ _ F :

(1) 40 CFR 8OSlanderde: $1,000.00

(2) 40 CFR 61 Standerde: $1,000.00

(3) 40 CFR 83 Slandlrda:

(e) PromuJgetsd Standanll: $2,000.00

(b) Cm CaM MACT _ $10,000.00

(4) f'SllINon.AIlsInment _ $5,000.00

(5) AcId RaIn _low: $5,000.00

(8) Stste Toxic Air Pollutant Review:

$500.00

F. PortatM Source Relocation F..: $250.00

G. AcMllnletra~ Modlftcatlonl to Existing

Pennlt $100.00

H. Surlece DlotLJrbance Penni! F~lng _

lne~on Fee: $100.00 per ecre

I. Asbestos Un~ (AU): $21.00

J.Admln__:

(1) P_onal Services Fee: $75.00 per

staff hour

remediation

New Mexico RegisterI Vol. XII, No.1 0 I May 31, 2001 4X1

(n GuoIlne ServIce and Fleet Stallone: (1) Propoood IOUIC88 wtth a polBntIaIoto- (4) Public Racorda _rch Fee: $50.00

$2SO or $31.00 per ton, which ....r 10 om~ equal to or g......r than 5 tonI per per IIaII hour ~~ __ ~than~~pe<~

$1,000.00

(g) Natural gao or dll1lll.... fueled flied

boilers .. than 10 million BTU used

excIusfvely for I9Sldentlal, commercial or

Institutional hea~ng and hot water. No

GhaJge

(h) Prt~ng. Publlohlng and Peckeglng

Operatlone

0) S_ (non_oI) oIIIet

lithography uelng I... than 7.125 gallonl 01

clean soIYent and fountain solution _ per~ $150.00

(II) Non_et web oIIIet Ilthognlphy

Ullng I...than 7,125 geJlonsol eoIvent and

Iountsln eoI~on additive per $150.00

011) H..- _ ofI801 l~nIphy uelng

""'" than 50,000 poundl 01 Ink, cleaning

801Y8nt. and fountain solutton eddltlYel:

$150

(Iv) _n prt~ng Ullng I... than 7.125

gallone 01 total _ UIed Including

soIvent_ Inkl, doanlng IOlventl,

edhealvee and coalInge: $150.00

(v) FI_raphy (__or UV-<:U1ed

InIce, coaling and edtlellveo) uelng I...

than 200,000 pounde total 01 InkI, coalInge

and adh_: $150.00

(8) Retell and fleet g8lOline lervlol

Btatlone: $500.00

(g) SOillwatBr remediation syeteme:

$1000.00

G. Gue-by-<:818 Air Quei~ Review Feee

for New Sourcaa (Based on a Source's

Potllndei-to-Em~):

B. General Air Qual~ Review _ lor

New SouIC88 (Minor Source General

PennltB):·

(1) Auto body ~r_pointing: $500.00

(2) Dry d __: $500.00

(3) e"",rgancy __.. (naluraJ ga or

dlatll18bl lueI): $500.00

(4) Generic coating and abraalve

operations: $500.00

(5) Otherlue1lng ledlltleol1lC8lvlng fuel by

trud< or rail (Non-NSPS): $1000.00

(6) Non-NSPS Bolle.. (G......r than 10

Million BTU): $500.00

(7) Prt~ng and pockeglng operatlone:

$500.00

0) SOli and/or wablr

opera~one: $150.00

(J) S1atIonary IOU'" wtth de mlr/mlo

,eml88k)n8: No Charge