UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF OHIO

WESTERN DIVISION

ALYSSA PORTNOY, et al.,

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NATIONAL CREDIT SYSTEMS, INC., et 

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Case No. 1:17-cv-834

Judge Michael R. Barrett

OPINION & ORDER

This matter is before the Court on Plaintiff Alyssa Portnoy's and Plaintiff Darlene 

Portnoy's Motion for an Order to Depose Attorney DeMarte (Doc. 113), Motion for 

Sanctions and Class Action Certification (Doc. 127), and Motions for a Pretrial 

Conference (Docs. 134, 135). This matter is also before the Court on Defendant National 

Credit Systems, Inc.'s ("NCS") Motion for an Order to Show Cause (Doc. 118), Motion to 

Dismiss (Doc. 120), and Motion to Stay Discovery (Doc. 124).

This Court and the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit ("Sixth Circuit") have

provided the background for this matter in prior opinions, Portnoy v. Nat'l Credit Sys., Inc., 

837 F. App'x 364 (6th Cir. 2020); (Doc. 61), and this Court will not repeat the same herein 

unless necessary to address the parties' current arguments.

I. MOTION TO DISMISS

The Court begins its analysis with NCS's Motion to Dismiss, as the Court cannot 

address the other pending motions regarding Plaintiffs' remaining claim under the Fair 

Debt Collection Practices Act ("FDCPA") if it lacks subject matter jurisdiction over that 

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claim. Cf. Warth v. Seldin, 422 U.S. 490, 498 (1975) (Article III standing is "the threshold 

question in every federal case, determining the power of the court to entertain the suit.").

NCS moves to dismiss Plaintiffs' complaint1 under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 

12(b)(1). (Doc. 120). NCS argues that the Court lacks subject-matter jurisdiction over the 

FDCPA claim, because Plaintiffs lack standing, as Plaintiffs do not allege that they have 

suffered an injury in fact. (Id.) (first citing Spokeo, Inc. v. Robins, 578 U.S. 330 (2016), as 

revised (May 24, 2016); then citing TransUnion v. Ramirez, 141 S. Ct. 2190 (2021); and 

then citing Ward v. Nat'l Patient Acct. Servs. Sols., Inc., 9 F.4th 357, 359 (6th Cir. 2021)).

Plaintiffs respond that statutory damages are sufficient to establish standing to pursue 

their FDCPA claim, and, alternatively, they have suffered an injury in fact because they 

are contractually required to pay their attorney's fees and costs. (Doc. 125) (first citing 

Reichert v. Nat'l Credit Sys., Inc., 531 F.3d 1002 (9th Cir. 2008); and then citing Smith v. 

Nat'l Credit Sys., Inc., 807 F. Supp. 2d 836, 839 (D. Ariz. 2011)).

Rule 12(b)(1) provides that a claim may be dismissed for "lack of subject-matter 

jurisdiction." Rule 12(b)(1) "[m]otions to dismiss for lack of subject matter jurisdiction fall 

into two general categories: facial attacks and factual attacks." United States v. Ritchie,

15 F.3d 592, 598 (6th Cir. 1994). "When a Rule 12(b)(1) motion attacks the factual basis 

for jurisdiction," as NCS's Motion to Dismiss does, "the district court has broad discretion 

over what evidence to consider and may look outside the pleadings to determine whether 

1 There is no amended complaint in this matter. See (Docs. 113, 116). Plaintiffs filed a Motion for Leave to 

file an amended complaint. (Doc. 81). The Court denied that Motion for Leave. (Doc. 108). The operative 

complaint is the original complaint that Plaintiffs filed in in the Court of Common Pleas for Hamilton County,

Ohio on November 9, 2017. (Doc. 2). After Plaintiffs' appeal to the Sixth Circuit, and that Court's remand 

back to this Court, Plaintiffs have one remaining claim, i.e., their FDCPA claim against NCS, and NCS is 

the only remaining Defendant. Compare (id.), with (Doc. 70). Plaintiffs do not have a pending fraud claim 

or pending FDCPA claim against Attorney Gentry, Attorney DeMarte, Mr. Saltzman, Ms. Weisbaum, or 

Resource Real Estate Opportunities in the operative complaint in this matter.

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subject-matter jurisdiction exists." Adkisson v. Jacobs Eng'g Grp., Inc., 790 F.3d 641, 647 

(6th Cir. 2015); accord Nichols v. Muskingum Coll., 318 F.3d 674, 677 (6th Cir. 2003) (In 

deciding a Rule 12(b)(1) motion to dismiss, "the court may consider evidence outside the 

pleadings to resolve factual disputes concerning jurisdiction."). The plaintiff bears the 

burden of proving jurisdiction when challenged by a Rule 12(b)(1) motion. Moir v. Greater 

Cleveland Reg'l Transit Auth., 895 F.2d 266, 269 (6th Cir. 1990).

"Article III of the Constitution limits the jurisdiction of federal courts to 'Cases' and 

'Controversies.'" Susan B. Anthony List v. Driehaus, 573 U.S. 149, 157 (2014) (quoting 

U.S. CONST., art. III, § 2). "Standing to sue is a doctrine rooted in the traditional 

understanding of a case or controversy." Spokeo, 578 U.S. at 338. Standing is necessary 

to the exercise of jurisdiction and is the "threshold question . . . [that] determin[es] the 

power of the court to entertain the suit." Warth, 422 U.S. at 498. The plaintiff bears the 

burden of establishing standing. Spokeo, 578 U.S. at 338.

To establish Article III standing, a plaintiff must have: "(1) suffered an injury in fact,

(2) that is fairly traceable to the challenged conduct of the defendant, and (3) that is likely 

to be redressed by a favorable judicial decision." Id. (citing Lujan v. Defenders of Wildlife,

504 U.S. 555, 560-61 (1992)); accord Hagy v. Demers & Adams, 882 F.3d 616, 620 (6th 

Cir. 2018). If the plaintiff fails to establish standing, a court must dismiss the complaint for 

lack of subject-matter jurisdiction. Lyshe v. Levy, 854 F.3d 855, 857 (6th Cir. 2017).

With respect to the first element required to establish Article III standing, "[t]o 

establish injury in fact, a plaintiff must show that [ ]she suffered 'an invasion of a legally 

protected interest' that is 'concrete and particularized' and 'actual or imminent, not 

conjectural or hypothetical.'" Spokeo, 578 U.S. at 339 (emphasis added) (quoting Lujan, 

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504 U.S., at 560); accord TransUnion, 141 S. Ct. at 2200.

For an injury to be "concrete," it "must be 'de facto'; that is, it must actually exist." 

Spokeo, 578 U.S. at 340 (citing BLACK'S LAW DICTIONARY 479 (9th ed. 2009)). Concrete 

injuries can be tangible and intangible, though tangible injuries, e.g., physical harms and 

monetary harms, are often easier to recognize. TransUnion, 141 S. Ct. at 2204; Spokeo,

578 U.S. at 339. "In determining whether an intangible harm constitutes injury in fact, both 

history and the judgment of Congress play important roles." Spokeo, 578 U.S. at 339.

With respect to history's role, "it is instructive to consider whether an alleged intangible 

harm has a close relationship to a harm that has traditionally been regarded as providing 

a basis for a lawsuit in English or American courts," e.g., reputational harms, disclosure 

of private information, intrusion upon seclusion, abridgment of free speech, and 

infringement of free exercise. Id. at 341; accord TransUnion, 141 S. Ct. at 2204.

With respect to Congress' role, "its judgment is [ ] instructive and important" in 

determining whether an intangible harm constitutes injury in fact. Spokeo, 578 U.S. at 

341. "Congress' role in identifying and elevating intangible harms does not mean that a 

plaintiff automatically satisfies the injury in fact requirement whenever a statute grants a 

person a statutory right and purports to authorize that person to sue to vindicate that 

right." Id. The U.S. Supreme Court ("Supreme Court") "has rejected the proposition that 

'a plaintiff automatically satisfies the injury in fact requirement whenever a statute grants 

a person a statutory right and purports to authorize that person to sue to vindicate that 

right.'" TransUnion, 141 S. Ct. at 2205 (quoting Spokeo, 578 U.S. at 341). "This does not 

mean, however, that the risk of real harm cannot satisfy the requirement of concreteness." 

Spokeo, 578 U.S. at 341. "For example, the law has long permitted recovery by certain 

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tort victims even if their harms may be difficult to prove or measure." Id. at 341-42 (citing 

RESTATEMENT (FIRST) OF TORTS §§ 569 (libel), 570 (slander per se)). "Just as the common 

law permitted suit in such instances, the violation of a procedural right granted by statute 

can be sufficient in some circumstances to constitute injury in fact." Id. at 342. "In sum, 

'the violation of a procedural right granted by statute can' constitute an injury in fact when 

it poses a harm or risk of real harm identified by Congress and [is] traditionally accepted 

as the kind of injury required for Article III standing." Thome v. Sayer L. Grp., P.C., No. 20-

CV-3058, 2021 WL 4690829, at *3 (N.D. Iowa Oct. 7, 2021) (quoting Spokeo, 578 U.S.

at 342).

The FDCPA protects consumers from abusive, deceptive, and unfair debt 

collection practices. In 2017, NCS—a debt collector hired by Plaintiffs' former-landlord, 

Defendant Williamsburg of Cincinnati ("Williamsburg")—mailed a collections letter to 

Plaintiffs stating that they owed a balance of $937.52. (Doc. 2 ¶ 18). Plaintiffs allege that 

NCS violated the FDCPA when it attempted to collect a debt that was not expressly 

authorized by the agreement creating the debt2 and/or misrepresented the character, 

amount, or legal status of the debt. (Id. ¶¶ 33-43) (citing 15 U.S.C. §§ 1692e(2)(A), 

1692f(1)). The Sixth Circuit held that the lease agreement between Plaintiffs and 

Williamsburg "allowed [Williamsburg and NCS] to recover what remained on the lease 

term or month-to-month renewal period." Portnoy, 837 F. App'x at 369. The Sixth Circuit

held that Plaintiffs owed Williamsburg, and thus NCS could recover, $763.71, rather than 

the claimed $937.52. Id. at 369-70. The Sixth Circuit then held that, because the claimed 

$937.52 was not expressly authorized by the lease agreement, as that agreement only 

2 Here, the apartment lease agreement between Plaintiffs and Williamsburg.

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expressly authorized a claim of $763.71, Plaintiffs' FDCPA claim against NCS survived, 

and remanded that sole claim for additional proceedings before this Court.3 Id. at 373.

In light of the Supreme Court's TransUnion4 opinion and the Sixth Circuit's 

Ward5 opinion, NCS now argues that the Court should dismiss Plaintiffs' remaining claim 

because Plaintiffs lack Article III standing. (Docs. 120, 129); see Arbaugh v. Y&H Corp., 

546 U.S. 500, 506 (2006) ("The objection that a federal court lacks subject-matter 

jurisdiction may be raised by a party, or by a court on its own initiative, at any stage in the 

litigation, even after trial and the entry of judgment.") (internal citation omitted). The Court 

agrees, as Plaintiffs have not established that NCS's act, of claiming a debt that was 

$173.81 more than the lease agreement authorized, caused either Plaintiff "any actual 

harm beyond that 'bare procedural violation'" of the FDCPA. See Hagy, 882 F.3d at 622.

Plaintiffs' argument that they need not prove actual damages "and may proceed to 

recover statutory damages" fails. (Doc. 125 PageID 1467). The Sixth Circuit has 

expressly rejected the idea that one automatically has standing simply because Congress 

authorizes her to sue a debt collector for failing to comply with the FDCPA. Ward, 9 F.4th 

at 361 (citing Spokeo, 578 U.S. at 341). Rather, Plaintiffs "must show either that the 

procedural harm itself is a concrete injury of the sort traditionally recognized or that the 

procedural violations caused an independent concrete injury." Id. Plaintiffs do not make, 

or even attempt to make, either showing. Instead, Plaintiffs rely exclusively on preTransUnion case law and ignore the recent development of the law on standing in the 

3 The theory of recovery that the Sixth Circuit used to find in favor of Plaintiffs is not the theory of recovery 

that Plaintiffs argued before this Court or the Sixth Circuit.

4 TransUnion deals with claims brought under the Fair Credit Reporting Act.

5 Ward deals with claims brought under the FDCPA, albeit different sections of the FDCPA than the claim 

that Plaintiffs bring against NCS.

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context of consumer-law claims. (Doc. 125).

Plaintiffs do not attempt to show that NCS's inclusion of the incorrect debt amount 

on the 2017 letter resembles a harm traditionally regarded as providing a basis for a 

lawsuit in American courts. See Ward, 9 F.4th at 361 (citing TransUnion, 141 S. Ct. 

at 2204). The Court is not in the business of developing parties' arguments, and will not 

do so here. To the extent that Plaintiff relies on pre-TransUnion cases, such reliance is 

misplaced as "TransUnion suggests that it is impermissible for courts to rely on the 

conclusion that any violation of a given statute automatically establishes standing absent 

a more searching analysis of the injury." Kola v. Forster & Garbus LLP, No. 19-CV-10496, 

2021 WL 4135153, at *8 (S.D.N.Y. Sept. 10, 2021) (citing TransUnion, 141 S. Ct. 

at 2205).

Plaintiffs' argument that they suffered actual injuries because they are 

contractually required to pay their attorney fees and costs also fails. (Doc. 125 

PageID 1467). The Sixth Circuit has held that plaintiffs "cannot show concrete harm 

simply by pointing to the cost of hiring counsel." Ward, 9 F.4th at 363. Applying that "logic 

to any plaintiff who hires counsel to affirmatively pursue a claim would nullify the limits 

created under Article III." Id.; accord Duncan v. Liberty Mut. Ins. Co., 854 F. App'x 652, 

670 (6th Cir. 2021) ("If the voluntarily incurred expenses of bringing a suit . . . could be 

used by themselves to show a [concrete injury,] this element of Article III standing would 

always be satisfied by any plaintiff who incurs legal expenses.") (internal citations and 

quotation marks omitted). Further, Plaintiffs testified that NCS's conduct related to and 

stemming from the 2017 letter from NCS did not cause either Plaintiff financial loss, 

property loss, or mental or physical harm. (Doc. 121-1 Darlene Portnoy's Depo. 

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PageID 1208-09); (Doc. 121-2 Alyssa Portnoy Depo. PageID 1331, 1352). Stated 

differently, Plaintiffs testified that they have no independent injury related to and stemming 

from receipt of NCS's letter. (Doc. 121-1 Darlene Portnoy's Depo. PageID 1208-09); 

(Doc. 121-2 Alyssa Portnoy Depo. PageID 1331, 1352).

As Plaintiffs fail to establish that the procedural violation that they assert bears a 

close relationship to a traditional harm recognized by American courts or that the 

procedural violation caused an independent injury, the Court finds that Plaintiffs cannot 

demonstrate a concrete harm and thus an injury in fact, and therefore cannot demonstrate

standing based on the alleged FDCPA violation alone. See Spokeo, 578 U.S. at 341; 

Ward, 9 F.4th at 361. Plaintiffs do not have standing to bring their remaining FDCPA claim 

against NCS,

6 see Ward, 9 F.4th at 363, and fail to satisfy their burden to establish 

standing and jurisdiction, see Spokeo, 578 U.S. at 338; Moir, 895 F.2d at 269. The Court 

will grant NCS's Motion to Dismiss, without prejudice, for lack of jurisdiction. See Lyshe,

854 F.3d at 857; see also Thompson v. Love's Travel Stops & Country Stores, Inc.,

748 F. App'x 6, 11 (6th Cir. 2018) ("dismissal for lack of subject matter jurisdiction should 

normally be without prejudice.").

II. MOTION FOR AN ORDER TO DEPOSE

Turning to the contractual dispute7 between Plaintiffs and Williamsburg, on appeal,

6 A named plaintiff and potential class representative must demonstrate individual Article III "standing visa-vis the defendant; [s]he cannot acquire such standing merely by virtue of bringing a class action." Fallick 

v. Nationwide Mut. Ins. Co., 162 F.3d 410, 423 (6th Cir. 1998); accord Soehnlen v. Fleet Owners Ins. Fund,

844 F.3d 576, 582 (6th Cir. 2016) ("Plaintiffs are not absolved of their individual obligation to satisfy the 

injury element of Article III just because they allege class claims.").

7 Plaintiffs brought claims under the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations statute,

the FDCPA, the Ohio Corrupt Practices Act, and the Ohio Consumer Sales Practices Act (Doc. 2), and 

Williamsburg filed a counterclaim seeking the money owed to it under the lease agreement (Doc. 9). No 

party challenges the Court's retained supplemental jurisdiction over this contract claim or enforcement of 

its prior judgment related to that claim. Cf. Town of Chester, N.Y. v. Laroe Ests., Inc., 137 S. Ct. 1645, 1647 

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the Sixth Circuit held that Plaintiffs owed Williamsburg $763.71 under the apartment lease 

between those parties. Portnoy, 837 F. App'x at 370. This Court, consistent with the Sixth 

Circuit's opinion and directions on remand, entered judgment in favor of Williamsburg and 

held that Williamsburg is entitled to $763.71, plus 18% annum interest accruing from 

September 19, 2017, from Plaintiffs. (Doc. 70). At a January 7, 2021 telephone status 

conference, the Court asked Attorney DeMarte and Attorney Gentry8 to provide Plaintiffs'

counsel with the necessary information to be able to pay the Williamsburg judgment. 

Attorney DeMarte and Attorney Gentry apparently have not done so as of the date of the 

issuance of this Order. Plaintiffs request leave of Court to depose Attorney DeMarte to 

obtain clarifying information about what entity or person has the legal right to collect the 

payment of the judgment. (Doc. 113 PageID 1048).

"Discovery from an opposing counsel is 'limited to where the party seeking to take 

the deposition has shown that (1) no other means exist to obtain the information . . .; 

(2) the information sought is relevant and nonprivileged; and (3) the information is crucial 

to the preparation of the case.'" Nationwide Mut. Ins. Co. v. Home Ins. Co., 278 F.3d 621,

628 (6th Cir. 2002) (quoting Shelton v. Am. Motors Corp., 805 F.2d 1323, 1327 

(8th Cir. 1986)). Plaintiffs fail to make any of the three requisite showings, and the Court 

will deny Plaintiffs' Motion for an Order to Depose. See id.

The Court, however, acknowledges that Plaintiffs have had difficulty obtaining 

information from Williamsburg about what entity or person has the legal right to collect 

(2017) (A "plaintiff must demonstrate standing for each claim [s]he seeks to press and for each form of 

relief that is sought.").

8 DeMarte and Gentry represent NCS and also represent Williamsburg. (Docs. 36, 38, 52, 53, 56, 71).

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the payment of the judgment in favor of Williamsburg and consequently that Plaintiffs 

have been unable to pay the judgment. The Court will order Attorney DeMarte and 

Attorney Gentry to file a notice, in writing, on this matter's docket, that contains the name 

of the proper payee and address for Plaintiffs to make a check out to and mail that check 

to such that Plaintiffs can pay the Williamsburg judgment.

III. ATTORNEY CONDUCT

As a final matter, the Court will comment on the conduct of Attorney Gentry,

Attorney DeMarte, and Attorney Portnoy in this matter.9 Federal district courts are busy

places, and district judges carry criminal and civil dockets that are often full and 

congested.10 Since December 2020, when the Court received this matter on remand, the 

Court has held 11 discovery dispute conferences in large part due to these attorneys'

inability to work together, a problem where fault lies on both sides. See Docket Entries 

for 02/22/2021; 03/29/2021; 04/15/2021; 04/30/2021; 07/01/2021; 07/09/2021; 

07/15/2021; 07/29/2021; 08/17/2021; 09/14/2021; 10/12/2021. So as not to expend any 

additional unwarranted judicial resources, the Court gives examples of the unnecessary 

behavior that impeded the Court's ability to resolve the discovery disputes and move this 

matter forward. Attorney Gentry and Attorney DeMarte continually questioned 

Attorney Portnoy's competence and refused to acknowledge that the Court-ordered 

discovery at the various discovery conferences were legitimate discovery orders. 

Attorney Gentry and Attorney DeMarte often chose not to follow this Court's instruction, 

9 To be clear, the following does not apply to Attorney Bender, who entered her appearance in this case in 

July 2021 and, who consistently attempted to resolve the discovery disputes between Plaintiffs and NCS in 

a reasonable, transparent, and respectful manner when communicating with the Court.

10 This is true especially since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic that remains an ongoing threat to 

the return to normalcy in our individual lives and the functioning of the federal court system.

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thereby frustrating the discovery process, often to the annoyance of the Court and 

opposing counsel. Attorney Portnoy, for his part, continually accused Attorney DeMarte 

and Attorney Gentry of lying and destroying evidence. Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, 

the aforementioned discovery conferences were telephonic, and counsels' continual 

obfuscation of the issues did little to assist the Court in understanding the nature of the 

discovery disputes which, in effect, inhibited judicial review. Zealous representation does 

not require stonewalling or mudslinging.

IV. CONCLUSION

Based on the foregoing, it is hereby ORDERED that

• NCS's Motion to Dismiss (Doc. 120) is GRANTED, and Plaintiffs' FDCPA claim 

against NCS is DISMISSED, without prejudice, for lack of jurisdiction.

• Plaintiffs' Motion for Sanctions and Class Action Certification (Doc. 127),

Plaintiffs' Motions for a Pretrial Conference (Docs. 134, 135), NCS's Motion for 

an Order to Show Cause (Doc. 118), and NCS's Motion to Stay Discovery 

(Doc. 124), each related to Plaintiffs' FDCPA claim against NCS, are each 

DENIED as moot.

• Plaintiffs' Motion to Depose (Doc. 113) is DENIED.

• Attorney DeMarte and Attorney Gentry are to forthwith FILE A WRITTEN 

NOTICE, on their client's, Williamsburg's, behalf, on this matter's docket, as 

described above.

IT IS SO ORDERED.

_/s Michael R. Barrett________

Michael R. Barrett, Judge

United States District Court 

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