# Date: February 5, 2015

**Case:** Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers

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## DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY MEETING ENERGY CONSERVATION STANDARDS: NOTICE OF PROPOSED RULEMAKING (NOPR) FOR RESIDENTIAL DISHWASHERS

United States Department of Energy Forrestal Building 1000 Independence Avenue, SW Room No. 8E-089 Washington, DC Thursday, February 5, 2015

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## Appearances for Department of Energy Meeting 2 

## Doug Brookman, Public Solutions, -- Moderator 3 

## Bryan Berringer, Department of Energy 4 

## Ashley Armstrong, Department of Energy 5 

## Johanna Hariharan, Department of Energy, Office of 6 

## the General Counsel 7 

## Nicole Buccitelli, Navigant 8 

## Camilla Dunham, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory 9 

## Mike Edwards, BSH Home Appliances Corporation 10 

## Charles R. Foster, IV, Independent Attorney 11 

## Sriram Gopal, Association of 12 

## Home Appliances Manufacturers 13 

## Kyran Hoff, General Electric Appliances 14 

## Bijit Kundy, Energy Solutions 15 

## Robert D. McArver, Association of 16 

## Home Appliances Manufacturers 17 

## Paul Newsome, GE Appliances 18 

## Ed Osann, National Resources Defense Council 19 

## Judith Reich, Navigant 20 

## Michael C. Rivest, Navigant 21 

## Manfred Staebler, BSH Home Appliances Corporation 22 

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## Appearances for Department of Energy Meeting 2 3 

## Chuck Foster, Edison Electric Institute 4 

## Chun Chun Ni, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory 5 

## Steve Leybourn, Association of 6 

## Home Appliances Manufacturers 7 8 9 10 

## Webinar Participants for Department of Energy Meeting 11 12 

## Julian Blomley, Blomley International 13 

## Environmental & Associates 14 

## Emily Clark, Efficiency Vermont 15 

## Jennifer Cleary, Association of 16 

## Home Appliance Manufacturers 17 

## Rob Cloward 18 

## Eileen Eaton, CEE 19 

## Melissa Fiffer, U.S. EPA Energy Star 20 

## Nick Gillespie, Whirlpool Corporation 21 

## Kyle Gluesenkamp 22 

## Mary Kennedy, ULNotice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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## Webinar Participants for Department of Energy Meeting 2 3 

## Kelley Kline, General Electric Appliances 4 

## Wayne Klug, Whirlpool Corporation 5 

## Jessica Lyman, ICF International 6 

## Eva Milakowski, Ministry of Ontario 7 

## Renata Mortazavi, Natural Resources Canada 8 

## Elizabeth Noll, Natural Resources Defense Council 9 

## Paul Richter, Electrolux 10 

## Steve Rolinski, Miele Inc. 11 

## Michael Woodford, AHRI 12 

## Angela Langley, DOJ-Antitrust 13 

## Linda Wilson 14 

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## P R O C E E D I N G S 2 

## (9:00 A.M.) 3 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Good morning everyone. 4 

## This is the Energy Conservation Standards Notice of 5 

## Proposed Rulemaking for Residential Dishwashers. 6 

## Today is February 5, 2015 here in the Forrestal 7 

## Building in Washington, D.C. 8 

## My name is Doug Brookman, Public 9 

## Solutions, Baltimore. Nice to see you here this 10 

## morning. We're going to start with welcoming remarks 11 

## from Bryan Berringer. 12 

## MR. BERRINGER: Good morning. Bryan 13 

## Berringer from the Department of Energy. Thank you 14 

## all for the people here present here today and those 15 

## on the Webinar. We have about I think 18 people on 16 

## the line, as far as the Webinar, so I do expect a 17 

## good discussion today, and again we thank you those 18 

## that are here present. And as I said, we just want 19 

## to hear from you and get your input. 20 

## We're just going to basically go over the 21 

## analysis we have to date, and we'll go over that in 22 

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## to ask them. 2 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay, why don't we start 3 

## with introductions? You can get used to turning 4 

## these microphones both on and off, and they need to 5 

## be kind of close to your face to work properly, but 6 

## your name and organizational affiliation, please. 7 

## MR. STAEBLER: So, my name is Manfred 8 

## Staebler, and I'm working for Bosch Siemen Home 9 

## Appliances located in New Bern, North Carolina, and 10 

## I'm heading Government Affairs for our company. 11 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you. 12 

## MR. EDWARDS: I'm Mike Edwards with BSH 13 

## Home Appliances, and I work on program structure 14 

## development for dishwashers. 15 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you. 16 

## MR. MCARVER: I'm Rod McArver with the 17 

## Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers. 18 

## MR. KUNDU: Bijit Kundu with Energy 19 

## Solutions on behalf of Pacific Gas and Electric 20 

## Company. 21 

## MR. OSANN: Ed Osann with the Natural 22 

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## MS. HOFF: I'm Kyran Hoff with GE 2 

## Appliances, and I'm the technology manager for 3 

## dishwasher. 4 

## MR. NEWSOME: Paul Newsome, GE Appliances, 5 

## platform leader for dishwasher. 6 

## MR. GOPAL: Sriram Gopal from the 7 

## Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers. 8 

## MS. HARIHARAN: Johanna Hariharan, 9 

## Department of Energy, from the General Counsel's 10 

## Office. 11 

## MR. WATSON: Troy Watson with Navigant. 12 

## MS. NI: I'm Chun Chun Ni with LBL. 13 

## MS. RICH: Judith Rich from Navigant. 14 

## MS. BUCCITELLI: Nicole Buccitelli from 15 

## Navigant. 16 

## MR. FOSTER: Chuck Foster representing 17 

## Edison Electric Institute. 18 

## MR. FOSTER: Charles Foster, independent 19 

## attorney. 20 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you. Thanks to all 21 

## of you. Glad to see you all this morning. Thanks 22 

## for being here on time. We get an early start on theNotice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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## day. 2 

## All of you received a packet of 3 

## information I think as you came in the door. This 4 

## will be the bulk of the material we'll be going 5 

## through in detail today. On Slide 3, you'll see an 6 

## agenda -- actually, Slide 4. 7 

## Immediately following this agenda review 8 

## and overview, there's an opportunity for anybody that 9 

## wishes to, to make brief opening statements, issues 10 

## that you wish to bring to the floor here at the 11 

## outset. Did everybody get a copy? Yes? We're all 12 

## set -- on the materials? Okay. 13 

## And then, following on from those opening 14 

## statements, we'll have a review of the overview, 15 

## scope, and proposed standard and moving on from there 16 

## market assessment and screening, then engineering 17 

## analysis. We'll take a break mid-morning around 18 

## 10:40, 10:45 or so. Returning from the break, or 19 

## whenever we get there, energy use and markup 20 

## analysis, life-cycle costs and payback period 21 

## analysis, lunch round about noon-ish, and then 22 

## shipment, national impact analysis, MIA and NOPRNotice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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## analyses, and proposed standards and closing remarks 2 

## at the end of the day whenever we arrive at that 3 

## point. 4 

## This is a standard framework for this 5 

## meeting. Questions and comments on the agenda? Yes, 6 

## Ed Osann. 7 

## MR. OSANN: Ed Osann. Doug, will we get 8 

## introductions from the people who are on the phone? 9 

## MR. BROOKMAN: I think we could ask our 10 

## Webmaster to read the names of those individuals 11 

## who've signed on, okay. We'll do that in a moment. 12 

## I'd ask for your consideration, on page 2 13 

## of the slides are some suggested ground rules. If 14 

## you would please speak one at a time, please say your 15 

## name for the record each time you speak. There will 16 

## be a complete transcript of this meeting made 17 

## available, if you could be concise, share the 18 

## airtime, and keep the focus here. 19 

## If you haven't put your cell phone on 20 

## silent mode, please do so and limit sidebar 21 

## conversations. You've already gotten used to turning 22 

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## Webinar participants we welcome you. The 2 

## Department of Energy is trying hard to make certain 3 

## that these meetings are totally accessible via the 4 

## Web. If you would please keep your telephone on mute 5 

## and raise your hand in the software provided to you 6 

## recognized to speak, and then we should be able to 7 

## hear you here in the room once we unmute you via the 8 

## software. 9 

## So, that is the bulk of the overview that 10 

## I wanted to do, except to say that those joining via 11 

## the Web, the Department encourages your participation 12 

## in all aspects of this meeting today and wants to 13 

## especially encourage Web participants to submit 14 

## written comments. The fact that you're not in the 15 

## room should not diminish your ability to provide all 16 

## the comments you wish to provide for this meeting. 17 

## So, then I'm going to turn it back to 18 

## Bryan Berringer -- let's let Alex -- can you read 19 

## who's joining via the web? 20 

## MR. KROWKA: Alex Krowka from Energetics. 21 

## On the Web we have Angela Langley, Eileen Eaton, 22 

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## Kline, Linda Wilson, Mary Kennedy, Michael Woodford, 2 

## Nick Gillespie, Paul Richter, Renata Mortazvi, and 3 

## Steve Rolinski. 4 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you. And one more 5 

## person, this gentleman, you didn't get a chance to 6 

## introduce yourself. 7 

## MR. LEYBOURN: Steve Leybourn AHAM. 8 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you. And Camilla, 9 

## good morning. 10 

## MS. DUNHAM: Camilla Dunham, Berkeley 11 

## Laboratory. 12 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you. 13 

## MR. BERRINGER: Again, thank you all for 14 

## coming and being available here in person and on the 15 

## Webinar. 16 

## Basically, today the purpose of the 17 

## meeting, obviously, is we're here to talk about 18 

## dishwashers and the proposed standard. So, today 19 

## we're going to present procedural and analytical 20 

## approaches to evaluate the potential energy 21 

## conservation standards for dishwashers. We invite 22 

## comments on the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking for theNotice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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## dishwasher proposal, including DOE's proposed 2 

## standard levels. 3 

## So, again, we're here. We invite 4 

## participation, for you guys to provide comment, 5 

## either written or orally today. And Doug went over 6 

## the agenda with you. If there are any other issues 7 

## that we don't talk about today, please bring them up 8 

## and we will make sure that we discuss them today. 9 

## And speaking of discussion, basically, as 10 

## we go through the presentation today you'll see some 11 

## note boxes, and these are typically the issues that 12 

## DOE specifically want to see comment on. A lot of 13 

## them are addressed in the Notice of Proposed 14 

## Rulemaking. The list of issues is also available at 15 

## the website indicated on the slide. And again, the 16 

## note boxes or issue boxes is just an area where DOE 17 

## welcomes comment, data, information concerning the 18 

## standards concerning the dishwashers. 19 

## And again, we are going to have an open 20 

## comment period and for written comments after the 21 

## meeting, so you'll have until February 17 to provide 22 

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## So, at this time I'm going to turn it back 2 

## to the participants. If anybody wants to have any 3 

## opening remarks, you're invited to do that at this 4 

## time. 5 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Yes, please. Rob. 6 

## MR. MCARVER: If there's no particular 7 

## order, maybe we'll go alphabetically, right. 8 

## Good morning and thank you for the 9 

## opportunity to be here today. I'm Rob McArver, Vice 10 

## President of Policy and Government Relations with the 11 

## Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers. 12 

## We appreciate that this public meeting 13 

## represents an opportunity to address the proposed 14 

## rule and highlight some of the issues identified by 15 

## our members, many of whom are represented around the 16 

## table and on the phone today. 17 

## I'd like to highlight a few concerns that 18 

## we have up front, and then AHAM staff and the member 19 

## companies represented here will raise additional 20 

## points during the day's discussion. 21 

## First of all, I'd like to address 22 

## circumvention of the process improvement rule. AHAMNotice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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## objects to DOE's short circuiting of the process 2 

## improvement rule by foregoing such critical 3 

## pre-proposal steps as public data availability, 4 

## stakeholder input, and company interviews. 5 

## Following these standard procedures 6 

## would've resulted in a much improved proposal from 7 

## DOE we feel. They provide DOE with a better 8 

## understanding of the realities of the current market 9 

## and product mix and could've prevented many of the 10 

## analytical errors that appear to be strewn throughout 11 

## this proposal. 12 

## In addition, the pre-proposal steps allow 13 

## stakeholders time to prepare much more useful 14 

## comments for DOE's consideration. Indeed, the 15 

## process improvement rule was developed in large part 16 

## because DOE was conducting nontransparent analyses 17 

## and in isolation from what was happening in the real 18 

## world, which resulted in the need for much more 19 

## engagement among government, DOE, contractors, and 20 

## industry stakeholders. 21 

## It was because of the development of the 22 

## process improvement rule that AHAM supported removingNotice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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## the previous requirement for an advanced notice of 2 

## proposed rulemaking. The process improvement rule 3 

## was developed through extensive stakeholder 4 

## involvement and notice and comment. 5 

## Here, by contrast, DOE first unilaterally 6 

## authorized itself to waive portions of the process 7 

## improvement rule and then submitted a proposed rule 8 

## directly to OMB without any notice to the regulating 9 

## community. This is an abuse of proper procedure and 10 

## has resulted in what we think is a defective product. 11 

## The proposal can be fixed, but it will take more time 12 

## to do so now than it would have had DOE adhered to 13 

## the steps laid out in the rule. 14 

## The action is particularly egregious in 15 

## light of the fact that the last dishwasher standard 16 

## was presented to DOE through stakeholder agreement. 17 

## And in that instance, we actually supported the 18 

## earliest possible effective date. 19 

## Given the constructive manner in which our 20 

## industry has operated in the past with respect to 21 

## dishwashers and a number of other products, it's 22 

## troubling that we have been subjected to this covertNotice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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## and non-inclusive regulatory action. And we have a 2 

## number of substantive concerns and criticisms 3 

## regarding the proposed rule, but we are crippled in 4 

## our ability to provide the necessary substantive 5 

## comments because of the extremely limited time we've 6 

## been given before this hearing and the comment 7 

## period. 8 

## This has been exacerbated by the fact that 9 

## vital technical information is buried, if available 10 

## at all, in various technical support documents. We 11 

## urge the Department, therefore, to provide us with an 12 

## opportunity for individual companies to understand 13 

## how models that have been selected by DOE as 14 

## exemplars for the proposed rule were analyzed and 15 

## evaluated from an engineering, performance, and cost 16 

## point of view. Without this information, it is 17 

## extremely difficult for us to provide in depth 18 

## comments; thereby, making it that much more difficult 19 

## for DOE to make decisions on the appropriate content 20 

## of the final rule. 21 

## As an example of what bothers us about the 22 

## process followed, I would note that this proposal wasNotice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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## issued on December 9, right before the start of the 2 

## holiday season and the public was granted only a 3 

## 60-day comment period. The holiday season 4 

## effectively shortened the comment period by at least 5 

## two weeks. 6 

## By comparison, the proposal of the 7 

## commercial clothes washer test procedure was 8 

## published last February with a 75-day comment period. 9 

## Likewise, the proposal accompanying the joint 10 

## petition for the 2012 dishwasher standard had 11 

## 110-day comment period. 12 

## In light of this, we are reiterating today 13 

## our request for a 60-day extension of the comment 14 

## period, which we believe is very reasonable and would 15 

## allow us the time needed to discuss the proposal in 16 

## greater depth with DOE and its contractors as well as 17 

## amongst ourselves. 18 

## Based on the information that we've been 19 

## able to evaluate to date, our initial analysis of the 20 

## proposed standard levels suggest that they're 21 

## extremely stringent and would force the vast majority 22 

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## of the market. The standard levels chosen appear to 2 

## have significant performance and cost implications, 3 

## and it appears that the existing dishwasher model 4 

## platform would be destroyed by this action. 5 

## Even by DOE's estimate, very few current 6 

## products meet the proposed standard. And we do not 7 

## believe that the models on which the standard is 8 

## based are representative of what American consumers 9 

## should expect as the only available choices. 10 

## From what we can tell only about 10 11 

## percent of the standard size current Energy Star 12 

## models would meet the proposed standard even though 13 

## approximately 90 percent of the models currently on 14 

## the market meet Energy Star's specifications. Far 15 

## fewer compact dishwashers are certified under Energy 16 

## Star and only about 10 percent of those would meet 17 

## the proposed standard as well. 18 

## The heart of the justification for the 19 

## proposed standard is the Navigant engineering 20 

## analysis of products minimally complying with the 21 

## proposed standard in the associated trial standard 22 

## level. We believe that certain characteristics ofNotice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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## this type of product, including their price would be 2 

## totally unacceptable to many consumers. Likewise, 3 

## the drastic reduction in energy and water use 4 

## proposed would necessitate a significant increase in 5 

## cycle times, which also would be unacceptable. 6 

## It is not clear how Navigant went about 7 

## choosing the representative products it used in its 8 

## baseline and tiered analysis. The market analysis 9 

## was based on information used in support of the 10 

## direct final rule published in 2012, much of which 11 

## was gathered in 2010 and 2011, and therefore is 12 

## likely out of date. Had proper procedures been 13 

## followed this could have easily been avoided. 14 

## The dishwasher technical support document 15 

## states that DOE considered technology options from 16 

## the 2012 direct final rule for dishwashers, the 17 

## information provided by trade publications, and 18 

## design data identified in manufacturer product 19 

## offerings. They did not use current information 20 

## obtained directly from manufacturers, which should be 21 

## the most obvious information to consider. 22 

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## engage Navigant directly, this analysis could be 2 

## better understood by affected companies and could be 3 

## improved and strengthened by Navigant. This is a key 4 

## reason behind our request for a 60-day extension of 5 

## the comment period. 6 

## On a related point, it appears that this 7 

## needs to be explored on an individual model and 8 

## company basis that Navigant's assurance that there 9 

## has been no impairment of product performance for 10 

## products that already attain the proposed efficiency 11 

## levels is based on the Energy Star dishwasher 12 

## performance standard. But, and DOE has been briefed 13 

## on this several times, AHAM undertook an in depth 14 

## evaluation of the repeatability and reproducibility 15 

## of that test procedure and showed that it is badly 16 

## wanting. 17 

## How then could DOE apparently adopt this 18 

## flawed test procedure as the basis of such a radical 19 

## standard? This is more than a little troubling and 20 

## it suggests a rushed effort to get the proposal out 21 

## rather than to develop a reasonable rule based on 22 

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## In closing, we're concerned that DOE's 2 

## analysis underestimates the cumulative regulatory 3 

## burden on manufacturers of major appliances. 4 

## Furthermore, the unnecessarily expedited regulatory 5 

## pace has led to degradation in DOE's own regulatory 6 

## processes. There are numerous apparent deficiencies 7 

## in the analyses that we will explore in our written 8 

## comments, including the extraordinary payback period 9 

## and the adverse impact on company finances. 10 

## We look for the opportunity to work with 11 

## DOE and with Navigant to take a much deeper dive into 12 

## the facts behind this proposed standard to the 13 

## ultimate benefit, a much more justified and 14 

## acceptable and consumer-friendly final rule. 15 

## Thank you for the opportunity to present 16 

## our brief views, and we look forward to today's 17 

## dialogue. 18 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay. Thank you. Other 19 

## comments here at the outset? 20 

## MR. BERRINGER: This is Bryan Berringer. 21 

## Point of clarification, so your comment extension 22 

## you're looking for 60 days from February 17; is thatNotice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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## what you're looking for? 2 

## MR. MCARVER: Right. 3 

## MR. BERRINGER: Okay. Thank you. 4 

## MR. STAEBLER: Manfred Staebler from BSH. 5 

## I can echo what Rob said, especially for BSH where we 6 

## have our colleagues in Germany to consult. And as 7 

## many of you may know, they are a little bit luckier 8 

## than we with the holiday, so they will be back you 9 

## know probably 6 of January. We have no chance to 10 

## contact them and get input. So, we appreciate if we 11 

## get that extension. 12 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Got you. 13 

## MR. STAEBLER: And the other thing is I 14 

## think the discussion with Navigant to understand what 15 

## was tested, how it was tested will also help us to 16 

## understand the outcome. 17 

## MR. BROOKMAN: That information was not in 18 

## the TSD? Rob? 19 

## MR. MCAVER: To my understanding, Navigant 20 

## hasn't had any direct engagement with the 21 

## manufacturers, so what they based their 22 

## recommendations or the analysis on which theNotice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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## proposal is based doesn't include current information 2 

## on what's on the market and how those products 3 

## perform. 4 

## MR. BROOKMAN: I understand. Ed Osann. 5 

## MR. OSANN: Ed Osann with NRDC. AHAM has 6 

## raised quite a range of concerns that the 7 

## manufacturers believe to be serious and we also would 8 

## like to have the opportunity to explore these issues 9 

## further, including the opportunity to discuss them 10 

## with AHAM and member companies, so we don't object to 11 

## the extension of the comment period. 12 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay. Thanks Ed. 13 

## Additional thoughts at the outset here before we go 14 

## into detail and the content in the packet? 15 

## MS. HARIHARAN: This is Johanna Hariharan, 16 

## Department of Energy, General Counsel's Office. 17 

## I would just like to clarify something 18 

## about the process rule before we get started, and I 19 

## think right now is probably the best time to do it. 20 

## The process rule is not a legal 21 

## requirement, first of all. It is a guidance 22 

## document. And in 2010, we did issue additionalNotice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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## guidance, saying that when we found it appropriate we 2 

## would go straight to the proposed rule. And so, I 3 

## believe I everyone is aware of that and there is 4 

## nothing illegal about the process that we did follow 5 

## here, so I would just like to clarify that. 6 

## Also, the 60-day comment period is 7 

## typical of a standard rulemaking. We'll definitely 8 

## consider your comment extension, but I do want to say 9 

## that we're not doing anything out of the ordinary 10 

## with the 60-day standards comment period. 11 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay, thanks for the 12 

## clarification. Are we ready to dive into this detail 13 

## here? Okay, let's go then. Bryan Berringer is going 14 

## to start us off. 15 

## MR. BERRINGER: I'm just going to give a 16 

## brief overview and then we'll get into the various 17 

## analyses. Again, thank you for your opening remarks 18 

## and thank you for your participation. I hope we can 19 

## move forward from here and get everything on the 20 

## right track. So, again, thank you for that. 21 

## Okay, so basically, the Energy Policy Act, 22 

## most of you who've been around know this. Just aNotice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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## little history of the Energy Policy Act of 1975 is 2 

## sort of the basis that authorizes DOE to establish 3 

## energy conservation standards for covered products, 4 

## which include dishwashers. 5 

## Basically, the dishwasher energy 6 

## conservation standards that were mentioned in the 7 

## past were -- we had one effective in 1994, 2010, and 8 

## more recently, as was mentioned, on May 30, 2013 was 9 

## the most recent, effective standards rulemaking. 10 

## Here's just the definition of dishwasher 11 

## that's found in 10 C.F.R. 430.2. I'm not going to 12 

## read that to you. I think the more important thing 13 

## that was mentioned that we're looking at two product 14 

## classes, both compact and standard, and that's 15 

## basically what the proposals are looking at that 16 

## we're looking at today. So, DOE proposes to maintain 17 

## the existing definition of product classes for 18 

## residential dishwashers in the compact and standard 19 

## class. 20 

## Again, here, EPCA just directs us to have 21 

## seven factors to look at. The seven factors are 22 

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## the analysis that we're presenting today and 2 

## throughout the rulemaking process we look at the 3 

## lifecycle cost analysis, the manufacturer impact 4 

## analysis, national impacts, engineering analysis, the 5 

## screening analysis, and emissions and also utility, 6 

## employment and regulatory impact analyses. 7 

## So, we're going to discuss all these in 8 

## detail today, and we'll give people an opportunity to 9 

## go through those. 10 

## And again, the next slide is where now 11 

## we're in the proposed rulemaking stage. This is all 12 

## the analysis that we're going to, again, step in 13 

## detail, starting off with the engineering analysis. 14 

## And basically, what we want to do in this meeting, as 15 

## mentioned by AHAM, is we want to make sure that we're 16 

## on the right track. We got the right information 17 

## and the right analysis. We'll refine that analysis 18 

## before we make a decision on any final rule, so 19 

## there's plenty of opportunity in the process to do 20 

## that. 21 

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## to you on that. So, we want to make sure that this 2 

## is an open process and that we do get your feedback 3 

## and your input. 4 

## That being said, this is what we've got 5 

## for the analysis to date. For standard rulemaking 6 

## we're looking at trial standard level number two, 7 

## which is efficiency level number three. So, for the 8 

## standard product class of dishwashers, we're looking 9 

## at annual energy use of 234 kilowatt hours per year 10 

## and water consumption of 3.1. 11 

## For the compact class, we're looking at 12 

## efficiency level number one and we're looking at 13 

## annual energy use of 203 with a water consumption 14 

## rate of 3.1 gallons per cycle. 15 

## Again, as was mentioned, what we're basing 16 

## this on, obviously, we're listing here the benefits 17 

## and the burdens of looking at these proposed levels. 18 

## The analysis to date shows approximately one quad of 19 

## energy savings from 2019 to 2048, net benefits of .23 20 

## billion in net present value at a 7 percent discount 21 

## rate and 2.14 billion at a 3 percent discount rate. 22 

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## the LCC energy savings are positive. 2 

## As mentioned, there is a burden with a 3 

## decrease in industry net present value as much as 4 

## 34.7 percent or almost $204 million for the 5 

## residential dishwasher industry. So, we have 6 

## recognized that. 7 

## Okay, with that being said -- are there 8 

## any other questions before we start -- we're going to 9 

## start and step through the analysis at this point and 10 

## give people a chance for discussion. 11 

## Do we have any other general comments, 12 

## anything about the agenda or any other items that 13 

## need to be addressed, other than what you see on 14 

## these topics today? Anybody on the phone, any issues 15 

## from the Webinar? 16 

## Okay, hearing none, I'm going to turn it 17 

## over to Troy Watson to talk about the market 18 

## technology and screening. 19 

## MR. WATSON: Like Bryan said, I'm Troy 20 

## Watson and I'm with Navigant, and I'll be taking us 21 

## through the first three stages of DOE's NOPR 22 

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## MR. WATSON: So, you can see the first 3 

## step here is the market and technology assessment. 4 

## So, the purpose of a market and technology assessment 5 

## is to gather all the relevant information that could 6 

## be used in the downstream analyses of DOE's NOPR 7 

## analysis. 8 

## So, the key things that DOE does at this 9 

## stage are define product classes, characterize the 10 

## industry, identify existing regulatory and voluntary 11 

## efficiency programs, gather market data, and identify 12 

## the technology options that could be used to improve 13 

## dishwasher efficiencies. 14 

## And as has been pointed out, most of the 15 

## information in chapter 3 of the TSD, which covers the 16 

## market and technology assessment, a lot of that 17 

## information was pulled from information that was 18 

## gathered in support of the 2012 direct final rule. 19 

## But DOE did go through and update that information 20 

## with more recent data, as it was available. 21 

## So, for product classes, as Bryan said, 22 

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## existing product classes, and these are compact and 2 

## standard. The differentiation is based on the 3 

## product capacity in terms of place settings, and 4 

## that's based on the ANSI/AHAM DW-1 standard, and 5 

## that's the 2010 version. 6 

## Now, for the technology assessment, this 7 

## is where DOE develops the list of technology options 8 

## that can improve the efficiency of dishwashers. And 9 

## this list of technology options, it feeds into the 10 

## downstream analyses, so anything DOE identifies in 11 

## the market and tech assessment is considered further 12 

## in the later analyses. 13 

## And again, most, if not all, of the 14 

## technology options identified in the market and 15 

## technology assessment were also identified in the 16 

## 2012 direct final rule; but DOE did also conduct 17 

## literature review and conducted product teardowns 18 

## since the 2012 direct final rule to determine whether 19 

## those technology options are still valid or if there 20 

## are certain new components that DOE might have missed 21 

## out on since the direct final rule. And that's how 22 

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## the TSD. 2 

## And I know I don't have too many comment 3 

## boxes mixed in here, so if there's a particular spot 4 

## where you'd like to jump in. I know it sounds like 5 

## manufacturers might have input here on the list of 6 

## technology options, so DOE would definitely welcome 7 

## any comment. 8 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Ed Osann. 9 

## MR. OSANN: Ed Osann with NRDC. In terms 10 

## of assessing sort of the base case against which 11 

## standards would be compared, what is the most recent 12 

## year of production and shipments that you had 13 

## incorporated into the analysis for the base case? 14 

## MR. WATSON: For the shipments, I'd have 15 

## to turn to my LBNL colleagues. In terms of 16 

## engineering, the information is based on -- the most 17 

## recent data, I think, was May 2014, so for things 18 

## like market information DOE pulled information from 19 

## the certification database. So, any products that 20 

## were certified in May 2014 were considered in this 21 

## analysis. 22 

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## MR. KUNDU: Bijit Kundu, Energy Solutions. 2 

## Ed asked the question -- the first question I was 3 

## going to ask. I guess the second question I had was 4 

## what was the latest or the most recent year for your 5 

## teardowns? What year models were they? 6 

## MR. WATSON: Well, teardowns were 7 

## conducted around that May timeframe, I believe. I 8 

## think what you're getting at is had the previous 9 

## standards kicked in by the time we did this 10 

## analysis. 11 

## MR. KUNDU: No, I was just actually 12 

## looking for like how recent is the models, were they 13 

## 2014 models, were some mixture? 14 

## MR. WATSON: So, I believe the teardowns 15 

## were in 2014. I can't say off the top of my head if 16 

## they were manufactured in 2014. I know there's 17 

## usually a lag period of maybe 10 months to a year, so 18 

## these were probably manufactured in 2013. 19 

## MR. KUNDU: Is that data typically 20 

## available or does DOE typically make that data 21 

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## detailed information on the models we tore down. 2 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Can you provide the dates, 3 

## the model years of the models? 4 

## MR. WATSON: We can see if we can get that 5 

## information. I mean the models are torn down. 6 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Let him finish his comment. 7 

## MR. KUNDU: Yes, I mean you've got the 8 

## model numbers, right, and the models, right? 9 

## MR. WATSON: We could probably provide a 10 

## range of dates, but we wouldn't provide specifics. 11 

## MR. KUNDU: Thank you. 12 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Additional thoughts on 13 

## these technology options, specifically? That's our 14 

## point of departure here. 15 

## Okay, we're going to move on. 16 

## MR. WATSON: And like I said, a lot of the 17 

## information from the market and technology assessment 18 

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## the screening analysis. And this is where the list 20 

## of technology options identified in the market and 21 

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## consideration in the downstream analysis. And DOE 2 

## does this based on four criteria. 3 

## Technologies would be screened out if they 4 

## are not technologically feasible, not practicable to 5 

## manufacture, instal or service, if they have adverse 6 

## impacts on product utility or availability to 7 

## consumers, or if they have adverse impacts on health 8 

## or safety. 9 

## So, in the screening analysis, DOE 10 

## screened out three technology options. And again, I 11 

## think this is consistent with the 2012 direct final 12 

## rule, and these are the reduced inlet water 13 

## temperatures, super critical carbon dioxide washing, 14 

## and ultrasonic washing. 15 

## And for the second two, those are not 16 

## currently available on the market. They're pretty 17 

## much at the conceptual stage, so DOE determined it 18 

## wouldn't be practicable to manufacture those 19 

## technologies on a scale necessary to reach the market 20 

## by the time of the effective date of any proposed 21 

## standards. 22 

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## reduced inlet water, DOE screened that out because it 2 

## would not be practicable to install on the market and 3 

## this is because typical homes in the U.S. have only a 4 

## hot water line that's running to the dishwasher 5 

## location in the kitchen. So, in order for a reduced 6 

## inlet water temperature to be incorporated on the 7 

## market, consumers would have to reconfigure their 8 

## kitchens across the country to get that cold water 9 

## feed line there. 10 

## So, after screening out those three 11 

## technology options, the remaining technology options 12 

## were considered further in the engineering analysis. 13 

## MR. STAEBLER: This is Manfred Staebler 14 

## from BHS. I have one question to the reduced inlet 15 

## water temperature. That means you assume you have 16 

## warm water to the dishwater; is that correct? 17 

## Because if I just look at my house, you know, I have 18 

## the hot water heater is somewhere downstream with 19 

## this little water, you have actually cold water to 20 

## the dishwater, even if you are hooked up to the warm 21 

## water line. 22 

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## MR. WATSON: Now, we'll move on to the 3 

## engineering analysis. And this, again, shows how it 4 

## feeds into the later downstream analysis at the NOPR 5 

## stage. 6 

## So, in the engineering analysis, DOE 7 

## evaluates the design options that can improve 8 

## efficiencies of dishwashers. And the main output of 9 

## the engineering analysis is shown by this chart down 10 

## at the bottom left. So, DOE develops a relationship 11 

## between manufacturer production costs and improved 12 

## efficiency levels. And typically, as you go to the 13 

## improved efficiency levels the manufacturer costs 14 

## increase. And then this is the information that 15 

## feeds into the downstream analyses. 16 

## This gives an overview of how DOE 17 

## approached this engineering analysis. The first step 18 

## is developing baseline and higher efficiency levels 19 

## for both of the product classes. DOE then selected 20 

## representative units for testing and teardowns. 21 

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## these units and DOE determined the typical mix of 2 

## design options that could be incorporated at each 3 

## higher efficiency level. 4 

## And then, from that teardown information 5 

## DOE developed a cost model to estimate the 6 

## manufacturing costs of these different products. And 7 

## when those costs were assigned to the different 8 

## efficiency levels that's how you generate the cost 9 

## efficiency curves. 10 

## So, the first step is establishing the 11 

## efficiency levels. At the baseline, DOE selected the 12 

## current efficiency level -- I'm sorry -- the current 13 

## existing energy conservation standards as the 14 

## baseline efficiency level for both product classes, 15 

## and they're shown here in the table. And DOE is 16 

## aware of dishwashers that are available on the 17 

## market that are currently at both baseline efficiency 18 

## levels. 19 

## For standard dishwashers, DOE analyzed 20 

## four possible efficiency levels beyond the baseline. 21 

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## based on the distribution of models available on the 2 

## market, and efficiency level four is based on the 3 

## maximum available efficiency at the time of the 4 

## analysis, and here you can see that was the May 2014 5 

## timeframe. 6 

## So, as Bryan said, efficiency level three 7 

## is the proposed level in this NOPR. So, we'll give a 8 

## little more detail on how DOE selected that level. 9 

## So, I mentioned the DOE certification 10 

## database in May. This plot shows the distribution of 11 

## models that were available on the market at that 12 

## time. And one thing to note here is that any models 13 

## that were certified as having a cold water inlet were 14 

## removed from this database because DOE screened out 15 

## that technology option. 16 

## So, you can see here efficiency level 17 

## three is kind of the most efficient point in the big 18 

## cluster of products, so it kind of represents a most 19 

## efficient point out of the typical distribution of 20 

## products available on the market at that time. And 21 

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## MR. KUNDU: Bijit Kundu with Energy 2 

## Solutions. I'm just curious. Did DOE kind of 3 

## qualitatively look at more recent data between May of 4 

## 2014 and you know whenever this was published, maybe 5 

## the end of 2014, just to kind of see where newer 6 

## models kind of fell along this? 7 

## MR. WATSON: Not that I'm aware of, but 8 

## that's definitely something DOE would consider going 9 

## forward as part of this. And if anyone has input as 10 

## to where models have dropped off or were introduced 11



## -- 12 

## MR. BROOKMAN: That's the point. 13 

## MR. WATSON: -- that's information we 14 

## would welcome. 15 

## MR. BROOKMAN: That is new models that 16 

## might demonstrate different performance 17 

## characteristics. If you have information about that, 18 

## that would especially useful to the Department. 19 

## Yes, Ed Osann. 20 

## MR. OSANN: Yes, Ed Osann with NRDC. Can 21 

## you repeat that observation you made about this 22 

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## MR. WATSON: Yes. So, DOE was selecting 2 

## the efficiency levels and it looks at the maximum 3 

## available, so that efficiency level four or whatever 4 

## the highest efficiency level is, and moving back from 5 

## that point there's a couple of units scattered in 6 

## there, but they're not really representative of -- 7 

## they're just single units and DOE tries to avoid 8 

## analyzing a single unit as the efficiency level. 9 

## So, by moving back to where there are more 10 

## products available, DOE thought that was a more 11 

## representative efficiency level to consider for its 12 

## analysis. 13 

## MR. BROOKMAN: That's 234 kilowatts. 14 

## MR. WATSON: Yes. 15 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Additional thoughts, 16 

## comments here? Okay. 17 

## MR. WATSON: Okay. For compact 18 

## dishwashers, DOE analyzed two efficiency levels 19 

## beyond the baseline, and these are based on the 20 

## proposed Energy Star criteria and the maximum 21 

## available based again on the certified dishwashers 22 

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## One thing to point out here is that DOE is 2 

## not aware of any dishwasher models -- compact 3 

## dishwasher models currently available on the market 4 

## at EL1; however, in developing its proposal Energy 5 

## Star had conversations with manufacturers and 6 

## discussed the changes that would be necessary to 7 

## increase efficiency to EL1. So, DOE based its 8 

## analysis at EL1 on the information gathered by Energy 9 

## Star. 10 

## So, we've gotten into this a little bit, 11 

## but DOE requests comment on the efficiency levels 12 

## selected. And specifically, DOE is interested in 13 

## knowing if cleaning performance or any other consumer 14 

## utility is affected at any of the analyzed efficiency 15 

## levels. 16 

## MR. BROOKMAN: No additional comments 17 

## here. Let me remind those joining us via the Web, if 18 

## you wish to comment we probably can hear you here in 19 

## the room. Okay. 20 

## MR. WATSON: Okay. So, after selecting 21 

## the efficiency levels, DOE conducted testing. And 22 

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## and DOE also relied on a lot of the data that was 2 

## gathered in developing the Energy Star cleaning 3 

## performance test method. And DOE was particularly 4 

## interested in cleaning performance to determine 5 

## whether consumer utility could be affected at any of 6 

## the analyzed efficiency levels. 7 

## And from this testing, DOE observed that 8 

## cleaning performance does decrease at a certain 9 

## point, but based on the available test data that 10 

## looks like this occurs when products use less than 11 

## .4 kilowatt hours per cycle of machine electric 12 

## energy consumption, or below three gallons per cycle 13 

## of water consumption. After that point, it looks 14 

## like things start to drop off a little bit. 15 

## And an important thing to point out is 16 

## that this really only occurred on the heavy and 17 

## medium soil loads under the DOE test procedure. And 18 

## this is likely because when you test the according to 19 

## the light cycle there's so little soil being 20 

## introduced to the machine that the opportunity to 21 

## really get a low score is not there as much as for 22 

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## MR. EDWARDS: Troy, Mark Edwards from DSH. 2 

## So, what attributes were evaluated? Was it just the 3 

## cleaning for DOE and Energy? Were there other 4 

## attributes like drying or time or something like that 5 

## involved in the analysis? 6 

## MR. WATSON: In this, DOE looked at 7 

## cleaning performance, energy performance, and water 8 

## performance. It didn't look at drying performance. 9 

## And DOE would have data on the cycle times, but I 10 

## don't think that fed into the engineering analysis, 11 

## and I don't know that information off the top of my 12 

## head. 13 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Yes, please. Steve. 14 

## MR. LEYBOURN: This is Steve Leybourn with 15 

## AHAM. I saw in a footnote in the TSD that -- and I'm 16 

## paraphrasing a little bit, that in order to present 17 

## the largest set of data for the cleaning performance 18 

## was that they presented -- you presented the IEC's 19 

## scoring results. It suggests that there are also the 20 

## AHAM scoring results. Would that be something you 21 

## guys would be willing to share? 22 

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## IEC scoring results is because there was more data in 2 

## support of the Energy Star test method. I know at 3 

## least one of the rounds of testing only looked at IEC 4 

## scoring because at that point it looked like that was 5 

## the way the test method was going, and that round of 6 

## testing covered a lot of units. So, the AHAM 7 

## information isn't available there, so that's why we 8 

## used the IEC data. 9 

## But as we found out during the Energy Star 10 

## test method development, both of the scoring methods 11 

## convey similar information. It's just a matter of 12 

## what scale the final number's on. And I think some 13 

## of the testing AHAM did with the round robin showed 14 

## that point, which is why we switched back to the AHAM 15 

## scoring method for that test method. So, even though 16 

## the numbers are a little different than they would 17 

## currently come out under the test method for Energy 18 

## Star, the information is the same. You'd see a 19 

## similar drop off in cleaning performance at the lower 20 

## water consumptions. It's just a matter of what are 21 

## the numbers on the scale. 22 

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## numbers were discrepant, then you should definitely 2 

## note that in your comments. Okay, Ed Osann. 3 

## MR. OSANN: Ed Osann with NRDC. Three 4 

## questions about this. 5 

## First of all, what is the universe of the 6 

## tested machines there? 7 

## MR. WATSON: I believe there's probably 8 

## around a dozen machines, but I'd have to go back to 9 

## the data to come up with a number for sure. 10 

## MR. OSANN: A dozen for compact and a 11 

## dozen for -- 12 

## MR. WATSON: Sorry, this is just standard 13 

## dishwashers. 14 

## MR. OSANN: Standard. 15 

## MR. WATSON: Yes. I don't know that there 16 

## are a dozen compact units available on the market. 17 

## MR. OSANN: And you're testing it medium 18 

## and heavy; is this multiple tests of the same machine 19 

## or this was way more than two dozen? 20 

## MR. WATSON: Yes. So, each machine would 21 

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## could be a few data points that could be multiple 2 

## mediums for a single unit or multiple heavies for a 3 

## single unit. 4 

## MR. OSANN: Okay, so these are multiple 5 

## tests on 12 machines? 6 

## MR. WATSON: Correct. 7 

## MR. OSANN: Okay, were the tests conducted 8 

## by DOE or your contractor? 9 

## MR. WATSON: I believe DOE conducted some 10 

## of these tests internally, and others were conducted 11 

## at third-party test labs. 12 

## MR. OSANN: At third-party test labs? 13 

## MR. WATSON: Third-party test labs. 14 

## MR. OSANN: Okay, but at DOE's request. 15 

## MR. WATSON: Yes. 16 

## MR. OSANN: And the slide above has a 17 

## reference to cleaning performance typically 18 

## decreasing at lower energy as well as water 19 

## consumption with a reference of .4 KWH per cycle. Is 20 

## there a similar plot for the energy consumption per 21 

## cycle versus the cleaning performance? 22 

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## MR. OSANN: It's in the TSD. 2 

## MR. WATSON: -- separates out the plots. 3 

## That separates it out by heavy, medium, and light 4 

## soil load, and it also separates it out by energy and 5 

## water consumption. 6 

## MR. OSANN: Thank you. 7 

## MR. WATSON: The reason this one is 8 

## included here is because the trend seemed most clear 9 

## with the water consumption. 10 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Additional questions, 11 

## comments before we move on? Yes, Mike. 12 

## MR. EDWARDS: Yes, Mike Edwards, BSH. I 13 

## just wanted to make the comment that in the DOE round 14 

## -- or the AHAM round robin we saw up to a 30 point 15 

## range in performance of a single unit with the DOE 16 

## test procedure, so there's quite a variation. 17 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Running the same 18 

## prescriptive cycle? 19 

## MR. EDWARDS: Sending the unit to 20 

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## or different from labs? 2 

## MR. EDWARDS: Different labs. 3 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Different labs, okay. 4 

## MR. EDWARDS: Yes, single unit. 5 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Interesting. Okay. Thank 6 

## you. 7 

## MR. WATSON: One point on that is that DOE 8 

## recognized that same sort of variability in its 9 

## testing. And when there were big jumps in the score 10 

## like that it was usually because the unit was using 11 

## different amounts of water. So, I think this helps 12 

## to show that if you're in a certain range you're 13 

## probably ending up with a certain cleaning 14 

## performance. It's when you get a unit that's 15 

## triggering different cycle responses where you get 16 

## the wide variation of cleaning performance. 17 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Mike. 18 

## MR. EDWARDS: What we found internally is 19 

## that the tests seem to be repeatable within the same 20 

## lab, but when you go outside that lab you see much 21 

## larger variations. 22 

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## here? I said this before for those of us joining in 2 

## via the Web, you need to send a signal to our 3 

## Webmaster and he will unmute your phone if you wish 4 

## to comment. 5 

## Okay, we're going to move on. 6 

## MR. WATSON: So, after testing, DOE 7 

## conducted reverse engineering on its test units and 8 

## so DOE tore down each unit tested in support of this 9 

## NOPR and also relied on some of the teardown 10 

## information that was conducted in support of the May 11 

## 2012 direct final rule. But one thing that's 12 

## important to note here is that if DOE pulled any of 13 

## that information, it confirmed that the teardowns 14 

## were conducted on units that are either still 15 

## currently available on the market or that are 16 

## representative of units that are still currently 17 

## available on the market. 18 

## So, during these teardowns, DOE observed 19 

## the typical design options that manufacturers 20 

## incorporated into products at the different 21 

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## seemed typical of construction at the different 2 

## efficiency levels. 3 

## So, the main output from teardown is a 4 

## bill of materials. DOE then feeds that bill of 5 

## materials into its manufacturing cost model. And 6 

## it's a pretty detailed cost model that looks at 7 

## whether parts are purchased by the manufacturer, 8 

## whether they're manufactured in house directly from 9 

## raw materials. It considers all the assembly 10 

## processes necessary to bring the product together, 11 

## and the main output is the manufacturing production 12 

## cost; and this includes things like material, labor, 13 

## overhead. 14 

## (Slide shown) 15 

## MR. WATSON: This shows how that ties into 16 

## other manufacturing costs, so on the left over there 17 

## is the manufacturing production cost. That's the key 18 

## output of engineering analysis, but manufacturers 19 

## also incur non-production costs and these kind of 20 

## feed into the manufacturer markup, which Camilla will 21 

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## costs, that's how you arrive at the manufacturer 2 

## selling price. 3 

## (Slide shown) 4 

## MR. WATSON: So, after conducting all the 5 

## teardowns and analysis, DOE developed a manufacturing 6 

## production cost at each efficiency level based on the 7 

## mix of design options as included in chapter 5 of the 8 

## TSD. DOE arrived at these incremental numbers. So, 9 

## it compares the manufacturer production cost at each 10 

## higher efficiency level to the baseline manufacturer 11 

## production costs. 12 

## And one thing that's important to point 13 

## out here is that the MPCs are equivalent at EL3 and 14 

## EL4, and that's because DOE expects manufacturers to 15 

## incorporate the similar types of design options at 16 

## both of these efficiency levels. The way DOE expects 17 

## manufacturers to reach EL4 from EL3 is to implement a 18 

## control scheme that would limit water and energy use, 19 

## but it wouldn't necessarily require additional 20 

## physical features. So, since that's just a control 21 

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## And so that pretty much takes me to the 2 

## end of the engineering analysis. I know there were 3 

## some concerns with these numbers, so at this point 4 

## I'm happy to answer any questions on DOE's analysis. 5 

## MR. BROOKMAN: I would note that I noticed 6 

## that many of you are taking notes in the margin of 7 

## the slides, which I assume will be in your written 8 

## comments, but perhaps you wish to provide some 9 

## comments now as well. Rob. 10 

## MR. MCARVER: I don't have a specific 11 

## comment based on what's just been presented, but I 12 

## will reiterate what I said before. We and our 13 

## members haven't had sufficient time to look through 14 

## the documentation. And while I mean there has been 15 

## some opportunity, of course, and questions may arise 16 

## directly from the presentation, we'd ask for an 17 

## extension in the date of this hearing as well in the 18 

## hopes that we'd have more robust discussions. So, 19 

## hopefully, there will be some more input today, but I 20 

## can't promise that. 21 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay. Thanks. 22 

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## one comment. It seemed like there were some concerns 2 

## about the market changing significantly from 2012 to 3 

## this new set of standards. I think DOE would be 4 

## interested in learning more about those particular 5 

## concerns to see where this analysis might not match 6 

## up or might not be appropriate at this point because 7 

## based on all the information DOE had available in 8 

## conducting this analysis it seems to reflect the 9 

## current market. Rob. 10 

## MR. MCAVER: I'll again reiterate a point 11 

## that I made earlier. Had there been an opportunity 12 

## for direct dialogue between manufacturers and 13 

## DOE/Navigant I think a lot more information would've 14 

## been made available that would help answer that 15 

## question. So, I don't know the answer off the top of 16 

## my head, but we'd be happy to sit down with everybody 17 

## and go into that in much more detail. So, thanks. 18 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you. Thanks Rob. 19 

## Manfred. 20 

## MR. STAEBLER: This is Manfred from BSH. 21 

## And this is really a remark on top of my head when it 22 

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## performance and water consumption leaving drying 2 

## away, you know, if you look at energy you have to 3 

## pump water. You have to heat water and that's the 4 

## energy what you have. And if you want to dry the 5 

## dishes properly probably you need the water hotter, 6 

## you know, that the dishes are hotter that they dry by 7 

## themselves afterwards. So, the drying performance 8 

## somehow, you know, plays into the cleaning 9 

## performance. So, you know, if you look at the energy 10 

## available and what you can do with the energy I think 11 

## we have to look at the full spectrum, and this is 12 

## kind of missing here. But like I said, that's not a 13 

## technical answer. It's just an observation. 14 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay. Thank you. 15 

## MR. STAEBLER: And we will look deeper 16 

## into that, you know, when we have the time to. 17 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay. Thank you. 18 

## MR. EDWARDS: I'll add something to that. 19 

## If you want to reduce energy in the dishwasher, 20 

## you're going to have to compensate somehow. It's 21 

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## if you actually take energy out of it you have to 2 

## compensate. 3 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay. 4 

## MR. EDWARDS: And it can be done with a 5 

## reduction in dry performance, longer wash time, and 6 

## things like that. 7 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you Mike. Okay. 8 

## Yes, please, Kyran. 9 

## MS. HOFF: Yes, Kyran Hoff from GE. The 10 

## teardown analysis, is that data available to us in 11 

## terms of models and the cost assumptions because I 12 

## think it's quite challenging without engaging with 13 

## industry to understand whether we're sourcing a part 14 

## or producing it in house and different labor costs, 15 

## and so there's a lot of assumptions that are built 16 

## into that. So, will that data be made available to 17 

## us? 18 

## MR. WATSON: DOE doesn't make the specific 19 

## data available, but during manufacturing interviews, 20 

## DOE tries to refine the model and determine which 21 

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## things like that. So, no, the specifics aren't. I 2 

## think sometimes if there's big assumptions to be made 3 

## DOE will provide that information, but typically, no, 4 

## the details aren't provided. 5 

## MS. HOFF: Okay. And on a similar vein, I 6 

## think some of the technology options presented in 7 

## chapter 5 regarding the path for manufacturers to 8 

## meet these new levels, and there are some fundamental 9 

## flaws in those assumptions. So, I think that in the 10 

## teardown it appears to us that you perhaps looked at 11 

## higher efficiency models and made assumptions that 12 

## the design elements on that model was there because 13 

## of energy when, in fact, that is not what the 14 

## manufacturer -- that's not a technology that you use 15 

## to get there. So, as we read that chapter, there 16 

## were several examples of that that stood out to us, 17 

## so we'll provide that in our written comments; but 18 

## we'd be interested to know how you made the 19 

## assessment of what was a design option for energy 20 

## versus what was just simply a feature that was on a 21 

## higher efficiency model. 22 

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## definitely tried to sort those things out. So, one 2 

## example off the top of my head is something like a 3 

## stainless steel tub. I know during the 2012 4 

## rulemaking we also learned that that was probably 5 

## just a feature and not necessarily a design option 6 

## to improve efficiency. So, in the cost modeling 7 

## analysis, DOE would replace that with a plastic tub 8 

## for the purpose of coming up with the MPCs, so those 9 

## classes don't reflect the efficient models available 10 

## on the market now. They reflect the build up with 11 

## the design options. And if any of those are 12 

## inappropriate, that would definitely be helpful. 13 

## MS. HOFF: Okay. Thank you. 14 

## MS. HARIHARAN: This is Johanna Hariharan, 15 

## General Counsel. I just want to make a point here, 16 

## and this is just for the record, that when we talk 17 

## about features usually it means they separate product 18 

## costs. And I just really want to be careful that 19 

## we're not talking about features as in features that 20 

## would separate product classes, but simply just 21 

## things that are different like stainless steel tubs. 22 

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## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay, additional thoughts 2 

## here? Okay. Good. 3 

## (Slide shown) 4 

## MR. WATSON: I should've switched this 5 

## slide, but this is what we just went through, so I'll 6 

## turn it over to Camilla now. 7 

## MS. DUNHAM: Good morning. My name is 8 

## Camilla Dunham. I work at Lawrence Berkeley 9 

## Laboratory. I'm going to be talking about -- we're 10 

## turning now in the presentation to the economic 11 

## analyses. I'm going to be talking about the life 12 

## cycle cost analysis and my colleague will be talking 13 

## about the national impact analysis. 14 

## Before getting into the life cycle cost 15 

## analysis itself, I'm going to discuss two of the 16 

## inputs that would need greater explanation. The 17 

## first of those is the markup analysis. 18 

## So, the LCC is a sum of the total 19 

## installed cost and the lifetime operating costs. 20 

## From the engineering analysis we have the engineering 21 

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## consumer product prices. Markups are the multipliers 2 

## that make that adjustment. So, from manufacturer to 3 

## consumer, markups reflect each step along the 4 

## distribution channel. 5 

## For dishwashers, the distribution chain is 6 

## pretty straightforward. Manufacturers sell to 7 

## retailers who then sell to consumers. The 8 

## manufacturer markup we get from the Securities and 9 

## Exchange Commission 10-K reports for publicly-traded 10 

## companies. The retailer markup comes from the annual 11 

## retail survey. And then the consumer markup is the 12 

## sales tax, and we get that from the Sales Tax 13 

## Clearinghouse. 14 

## We also have baseline and incremental 15 

## markups. Baseline markups relate costs to price 16 

## prior to efficiency and include direct costs such as 17 

## salaries, rent, and payroll. The incremental markups 18 

## are applied to each efficiency level above the 19 

## baseline, and they include costs such as goods and 20 

## services that vary with efficiency, but do not 21 

## include direct costs. 22 

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## MS. DUNHAM: These are the markups that 2 

## were developed for both the standard and compact 3 

## product classes. So, just to back up a second here, 4 

## DOE welcome comment on anything presented, whether or 5 

## not there's a comment box requesting comment. 6 

## (Slide shown) 7 

## So, now we're going to move on to another 8 

## major input into the life cycle cost analysis, and 9 

## that is the energy and water use analysis. So, the 10 

## energy and water use you can see here on the slide is 11 

## an input into the lifetime operating costs. So, DOE 12 

## needs to know how much energy and water dishwashers 13 

## use so that they can estimate possible savings as a 14 

## difference between the baseline and the higher 15 

## efficiency levels. 16 

## From the engineering analysis, we get 17 

## energy use by efficiency level for different 18 

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## of energy and water use. This slide shows the per 2 

## cycle energy and water use by efficiency level. 3 

## (Slide shown) 4 

## MS. DUNHAM: And the next slide provides 5 

## the same information. Those per cycle energy and 6 

## water use values were multiplied by 215, which is the 7 

## estimate for cycles per year. 8 

## Okay, I'm going to move on to the general 9 

## LCC discussion. 10 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Let's pause for just a 11 

## moment to see if there's any comments on all of the 12 

## data presented on 47 and 48. Any thoughts; what 13 

## about 215 cycles per year? Bijit. 14 

## MR. KUNDU: Bijit Kundu with Energy 15 

## Solutions. I know there was some discussion in the 16 

## NOPR document about how DOE came up with 215 cycles 17 

## per year, but can you briefly let us know how you 18 

## came to that? 19 

## MS. DUNHAM: Sure. There was an extensive 20 

## study performed by A.D. Little, which reviewed tens 21 

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## A.D. Little did. Variability, DOE doesn't assume 2 

## that 215 is the one number that each household uses, 3 

## and so variability is introduced through the RECS 4 

## survey, and I'll discuss that later in another slide. 5 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Additional thoughts on all 6 

## of these energy use levels and characterizations? 7 

## Okay. 8 

## MS. DUNHAM: Okay, so this shows all of 9 

## the inputs into the LCC and payback period 10 

## calculation. I'm going to talk about the purpose and 11 

## calculation method before I go into detail into the 12 

## other inputs. 13 

## So, in this analysis we look at both the 14 

## life cycle costs, the LCC and the payback period. 15 

## The LCC is the total cost to the consumer over the 16 

## life of the product. The payback period is the 17 

## period of time needed to recover the increased 18 

## purchase price of the more efficient equipment. 19 

## The purpose of the LCC is to compare the 20 

## lifetime impacts between baseline efficiency levels 21 

## and higher efficiency products. Using a consumer 22 

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## Consumption Survey, we determined the total installed 2 

## cost for each efficiency level. We determine both 3 

## first year and lifetime operating costs. 4 

## The payback period divides the average 5 

## increase in installed cost by the average decrease 6 

## in first year operating costs. We calculate the LCC 7 

## savings by subtracting the LCC of each efficiency 8 

## level from the LCC of what the customer would've 9 

## purchased in the absence of standards. 10 

## DOE conducts the LCC using a Monte Carlo 11 

## simulation. A Monte Carlo simulation and probability 12 

## distributions model both the uncertainties and the 13 

## variabilities of the inputs, enabling DOE to identify 14 

## percentages of consumers who either benefit from or 15 

## who are negatively impacted by a proposed standard. 16 

## Each Monte Carlo simulation represents 10,000 LCC 17 

## calculations to reduce the error brought by 18 

## uncertainty and variability. As mentioned before, 19 

## the RECS household sample forms the basis for energy 20 

## use and each product class is separately analyzed. 21 

## So, we've talked about markups. We've 22 

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## operating costs. There's another input into total 2 

## installed cost and that is installation costs. We 3 

## get installation costs -- so, consumer product price 4 

## was discussed in the markups discussion. For 5 

## installation costs we get data from the RS Means 6 

## Residential Costs data. 7 

## DOE assumed that installation costs would 8 

## not vary by efficiency level, and so that input drops 9 

## away from the calculation. 10 

## Now, we're going to turn to operating cost 11 

## inputs. There are, if you remember, or you can look 12 

## in your handout at that flowchart. There are a 13 

## number of interim calculation steps. So, we need to 14 

## get to annual energy and water costs. So, we already 15 

## have the use, energy and water use, and to that we 16 

## multiply energy and water prices that we get from 17 

## EIA's Form 861 and the Raftelis/American Waterworks 18 

## Association Water and Wastewater Rates. 19 

## Energy trends come from EIA's Annual 20 

## Energy Outlook and the water price trends come from 21 

## the water and sewage rates produced by the Bureau of 22 

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## Repair and maintenance costs is another 2 

## operating cost input. And these, like installation 3 

## costs, are assumed to not vary with efficiency 4 

## level, and so these also drop away from the 5 

## calculation. So, here is a comment request. 6 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Ed Osann. 7 

## MR. OSANN: Yes, I'm sorry to have to take 8 

## you back. 9 

## MR. BROOKMAN: It's okay. 10 

## MR. OSANN: I wanted to drop back to 11 

## slides 47 and 48. 12 

## MS. DUNHAM: Can you tell me what it is? 13 

## MR. OSANN: The energy and water use 14 

## analysis. 15 

## MS. DUNHAM: Yes. 16 

## MR. OSANN: The graphics could you -- 17 

## MS. DUNHAM: This one? 18 

## MR. OSANN: The charts. 19 

## MS. DUNHAM: Okay. 20 

## MR. OSANN: Yes. Could you comment a 21 

## little bit on the development of the origin of the 22 

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## MS. DUNHAM: It's described in the fine 2 

## print at the bottom. So, it's assumed that each 3 

## cycle lasts an hour. And then on the basis of that 4 

## we subtract that figure from total number of hours to 5 

## get the standby power. 6 

## MR. OSANN: And what's your thinking about 7 

## the assignment of zero for the base case? 8 

## MS. DUNHAM: I'm going to let Troy handle 9 

## that. 10 

## MR. WATSON: Yes, this is Troy Watson from 11 

## Navigant. In our engineering analysis, we observed 12 

## that the baseline standard unit used 13 

## electromechanical controls, and the associated off 14 

## mode power for that unit was zero watts, so there was 15 

## no standby for that. And then when you switch to 16 

## the electronic controls at the higher efficiency 17 

## levels that's where you always have some sort of 18 

## standby power draw, and that's where the 0.5 watts 19 

## comes from. 20 

## MR. OSANN: Okay. Thank you. 21 

## MS. DUNHAM: Okay, I'm going to move 22 

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## Okay, we're back to lifetime. So, to move 2 

## from annual energy and water costs to lifetime 3 

## operating costs, DOE uses a Weibull probability 4 

## distribution that has inputs from historical 5 

## shipments data and product saturation from RECS and 6 

## the American Housing Survey. DOE's estimated the 7 

## average lifetime for both product classes to be 15.4 8 

## years. Yes. 9 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Sriram. 10 

## MR. GOPAL: Sriram Gopal from AHAM. One 11 

## thing I couldn't tease out when I was going through 12 

## the technical support document is the relationship 13 

## between average lifetime and your average number of 14 

## cycles per year. Is there a tie-in there? You know, 15 

## are you saying that the average product is run for 16 

## whatever, 215 cycles per year for 15 years, or were 17 

## these calculations kind of done independent of each 18 

## other? 19 

## MS. DUNHAM: I don't believe that we 20 

## connected the degree of use and the lifetime of the 21 

## product. 22 

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## MR. GOPAL: I'm not prepared to suggest 2 

## anything. 3 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay. Thank you. 4 

## MR. GOPAL: Okay. 5 

## MS. DUNHAM: Okay, so now we have the 6 

## lifetime, so we're considering future costs. And to 7 

## do that we need to use a discount rate to establish 8 

## those costs' present value. DOE uses publicly 9 

## available data from the Federal Reserve for its 10 

## Survey of Consumer Finances to estimate consumers' 11 

## opportunity costs of funds related to appliance cost 12 

## savings and maintenance costs. 13 

## The discount rate value is applied in the 14 

## LCC to future year energy costs savings and 15 

## maintenance costs yielding a net LCC and LCC savings. 16 

## DOE notes that the discount rate used in the LCC 17 

## analysis is distinct from an implicit discount rate. 18 

## Basically, this is not a discount rate that we're 19 

## using to model consumer purchase decisions. 20 

## So, DOE doesn't assume that all machines 21 

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## products with efficiencies greater than or equal to a 2 

## prospective standard level and so then wouldn't be 3 

## affected in terms of the savings by the standard. 4 

## So, a base case efficiency distribution allows a more 5 

## accurate estimation of consumer impacts by 6 

## representing different efficiency levels either 7 

## currently in use or to be purchased. 8 

## So, there's a graph in front of you where 9 

## you see, and on the screen they're yellow diamonds. 10 

## Those are historical product annual energy use data 11 

## based on a mix of product efficiencies. The green 12 

## diamond is DOE's forecast for annual energy use for 13 

## the date the prospective standard would take effect, 14 

## which is 2019. And the blue curve shows that the mix 15 

## of efficiencies would level off at 280 kilowatt 16 

## hours 17 

## a year. 18 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Yes, Ed. 19 

## MR. OSANN: Ed Osann with NRDC. What's 20 

## the origin of the yellow diamond sort of labeled 21 

## "historic data"? 22 

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## information that's been provided. 2 

## MR. OSANN: So, those are the shipment 3 

## weighted performance of new products in each of those 4 

## years? 5 

## MS. DUHHAM: Shipment weighted 6 

## efficiencies. Correct. 7 

## So, here are market shares currently, or 8 

## when this was done last year at the different 9 

## efficiency levels for both standard-size dishwashers 10 

## and for the compact size. 11 

## MR. BROOKMAN: It says distribution in 12 

## 2019. 13 

## MS. DUNHAM: Yes, we developed that and 14 

## then that is assumed to take effect in 2019. 15 

## There's a comment box based or directed to 16 

## the base case efficiency distribution. 17 

## (Slide shown) 18 

## MS. DUNHAM: And here are the LCC results. 19 

## The blue rectangle shows the proposed standard, the 20 

## top for standard size and the bottom for compact 21 

## size. 22 

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## these two tables for just a moment. Questions? 2 

## There's another comment box coming up here. Looking 3 

## at these two tables, questions, comments here? 4 

## (Pause.) 5 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Nothing additional here? 6 

## Okay. I think we're probably -- yes, Ed. 7 

## MR. OSANN: So, just to be clear, for 8 

## purposes of the life cycle cost analysis and the 9 

## payback analysis the assumed base case shipment 10 

## weighted efficiency in 2019 is in the vicinity of the 11 

## high 280s? Am I reading your graph right on Slide 12 

## 60? 13 

## MS. DUNHAM: I'm sorry. Could you repeat 14 

## your question? 15 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Going back to Slide 60? 16 

## MR. OSANN: The one with the graph with 17 

## the diamonds on it. So, for purposes of the life 18 

## cycle cost analysis and the payback analysis the 19 

## assumption is that the base case shipment weighted 20 

## efficiency in first compliance year, 2019, would be 21 

## in the high 280s? 22 

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## MR. OSANN: What is that number actually? 2 

## MS. DUNHAM: I don't have it off the top 3 

## of my head. 4 

## MR. OSANN: Okay. Is it in the TSD; do 5 

## you know? 6 

## MS. DUNHAM: It's in the TSD. 7 

## MR. OSANN: Okay. Thanks. 8 

## MR. BROOKMAN: And then you would do what? 9 

## You had a follow-on comment, I thought. 10 

## MS. DUNHAM: I always get myself in 11 

## trouble when I do that, so I'll keep my counsel here. 12 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay. Additional thoughts 13 

## here, a lot of data there on Slide 63. The 14 

## Department has shown its intentions here. Okay, 15 

## nothing additional. Let's take a break. We're due 16 

## for a break. It's 10:25. And we'll take a 15-minute 17 

## break. I think most of you are familiar with the 18 

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## Many of you have already found it. Please go quickly 2 

## to get coffee, if you're going to go, and we'll 3 

## resume at 10:40. And those of you joining us on the 4 

## line, please feel free to join the conversation when 5 

## we resume at 10:40. 6 

## (Whereupon, a short recess was taken at 7 

## 10:25 a.m.) 8 

## MR. BROOKMAN: So, we're going to pick up 9 

## where we left off with the shipments, and we're going 10 

## to hear from Chun Chun. 11 

## MS. NI: My name Chun Chun Ni. I'm with 12 

## LBNL. In this session, I will talk about DOE's 13 

## shipments and the national impact analysis. 14 

## (Slide shown) 15 

## MS. NI: The purpose of the shipment 16 

## analysis is to estimate shipments for dishwashers 17 

## during a 30-year analysis period for both base case 18 

## and standards case. 19 

## The shipments are the inputs to national 20 

## impact analysis and the manufacturer impact analysis. 21 

## The shipment analysis relies on a range of data 22 

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## RECS data. The shipments model considers dishwashers 2 

## are installed either for replacement purposes or 3 

## installed in new housing starts. 4 

## (Slide shown) 5 

## MS. NI: This is a flowchart of the 6 

## shipment analysis. DOE first estimated shipments for 7 

## each product class that accounts for replacement and 8 

## new installations. DOE then estimated shipments by 9 

## aggregating shipments of each product class. As 10 

## mentioned, the shipment analysis relies on a range of 11 

## data sources. For this rulemaking, DOE mostly 12 

## relied on the data that was submitted with previous 13 

## rulemaking. 14 

## So, for the historical shipments data, DOE 15 

## added 2011 and 2012 data points by using Appliance 16 

## Designed data report. As for the product class 17 

## segment, DOE used NPD data. DOE estimated that 18 

## standard dishwashers account for about 99 percent and 19 

## compact dishwashers account for about 1 percent of 20 

## the total market. For the replacement, DOE used the 21 

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## used AEO 2014 to estimate installations in new 2 

## housing starts and dishwasher energy operating costs. 3 

## As for dishwasher water operating costs, 4 

## DOE used CPI national water price index trend. For 5 

## the product prices, those prices were derived from 6 

## LCC analysis. So, DOE's shipment analysis includes 7 

## two components, that is base case shipments 8 

## projection and the standards case shipment 9 

## projection. 10 

## After developing base case shipment 11 

## projection, DOE developed a standards case shipment. 12 

## In other words, the shipments projected after a 13 

## standard is adopted. The standards case shipments is 14 

## developed by using the same data sources as the base 15 

## case shipments projection. In addition, the 16 

## standards case shipments account for purchase price 17 

## increases and operating cost savings due to a 18 

## standard to estimate any shipments change to the base 19 

## case shipments projection. 20 

## This table summarizes the total projected 21 

## shipments in selected years in the base case and in 22 

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## didn't find that any significant standards impacts on 2 

## dishwashers' annual shipments. 3 

## Here is a comment box. DOE requests 4 

## comments and information related to 2011 and 2012 5 

## data points and the market segments between standard 6 

## and compact dishwashers. DOE also welcomes comments 7 

## related to standards case shipments projection. 8 

## I will stop here for a while. 9 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you. Any thoughts, 10 

## as requested by the comment box particularly on 11 

## shipments? 12 

## (Pause.) 13 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Nothing at this time. 14 

## Okay. 15 

## MS. NI: So, I will move onto the national 16 

## impact analysis. The purpose of the national impact 17 

## analysis is to determine the national energy and 18 

## water savings and the national net present value over 19 

## a 30-year analysis period from 2019 to 2048. 20 

## DOE conducted this analysis by developing 21 

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## before, to estimate the total stock of residential 2 

## dishwashers. DOE then aggregated the costs, energy, 3 

## and water used in any given year and reported 4 

## estimates for economic impacts as changes in consumer 5 

## net present value in constant year dollars. DOE also 6 

## used the discount rates to account for the time value 7 

## of money. 8 

## (Slide shown) 9 

## MS. NI: This is a flowchart of the 10 

## national impact analysis. The analysis relies on the 11 

## LCC and the shipments model to get the numbers. It's 12 

## basically gather all outputs from LCC and shipments 13 

## and those numbers feeds into the economic impacts. 14 

## The analysis outputs of energy and water savings and 15 

## the national present value. 16 

## The analysis period is 30 years of 17 

## shipments; however, DOE did account for energy and 18 

## water savings and economic impacts of all those 19 

## shipments in the 30 years as far as their lifespan 20 

## lasts; therefore, the results go beyond 2048. 21 

## (Slide shown) 22 

## MS. NI: This is a summary table of theNotice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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## inputs used for the national impact analysis. A lot 2 

## of these inputs are the same as what we have 3 

## discussed in the LCC section. So, in addition to 4 

## those inputs, DOE also accounts for full-fuel cycle 5 

## energy using certain multipliers per OMB's guideline. 6 

## DOE also used 7 percent and 3 percent discount rates 7 

## to discount all future expenses to the Year 2014. 8 

## Based on LCC and the payback period 9 

## analysis results, DOE then developed a trial standard 10 

## level for each product class. As we can see, TSL1 11 

## represents EL1 for standard and a baseline for 12 

## compact, and TSL2 represents EL3 for standard and EL1 13 

## for compact. TSL3 is the max tech level for both 14 

## product classes. For this rulemaking DOE is 15 

## proposing TSL2 for residential dishwashers. 16 

## (Slide shown) 17 

## MS. NI: So, this table summarizes the 18 

## national energy and water saving for each trial 19 

## standard level. As we can see, at the proposed TSL2, 20 

## the national full-fuel cycle savings is about 1.1 21 

## quads. And the national water savings is about .2 22 

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## consumer net present value by discount rate. At the 2 

## proposed TSL2, consumers will save about .2 billion 3 

## at 7 percent discount rate and about 2 billion at 3 4 

## percent discount rate. 5 

## Here is a comment box. DOE requests 6 

## whether or not DOE should review the sensitivity 7 

## analysis for the analysis period. That's all for the 8 

## shipments and national impact analysis. 9 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Comments on all of the 10 

## foregoing? Yes, Bijit. 11 

## MR. KUNDU: Bijit Kundu with Energy 12 

## Solutions. I just have a question, going back to 13 

## Slide 77, how were the efficiency -- you know, I 14 

## noticed the efficiency levels for standard it goes 15 

## from one, three to four. How were the TSLs mapped to 16 

## the efficiency level, at least for standard? What 17 

## happened to efficiency level 2? 18 

## MS. NI: The TSL2 is the max net present 19 

## value. 20 

## MR. KUNDU: I guess my question was, was 21 

## efficiency level 2 considered like -- 22 

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## analysis the El2 tends negative savings; therefore, 2 

## DOE cannot take the EL2 as the trial standard level. 3 

## MR. KUNDU: So, an analysis was done. 4 

## MS. NI: I think in the LCC section. We 5 

## can go back, take a look at that slide. So, you can 6 

## see the EL2 for standard the life cycle cost saving 7 

## is minus two. So, there's no saving for consumers. 8 

## MR. KUNDU: Okay, I see. I understand. 9 

## MS. ARMSTRONG: Can I chime in here for a 10 

## second? 11 

## MR. KUNDU: Yes. 12 

## MS. ARMSTRONG: I mean, basically, what we 13 

## do is we mix efficiency levels for different product 14 

## classes and we evaluate different policy scenarios, 15 

## which we deem with our special term "trial standard 16 

## level." We do analyze each efficiency level, so you 17 

## could look at the national impact results of the 18 

## efficiency level you're seeking in the TSD. And if 19 

## it's something that you think DOE should -- you know, 20 

## if there is a policy scenario that we didn't analyze 21 

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## welcomed to comment on that. 2 

## MR. KUNDU: Okay. I just wanted some 3 

## insights and that's helpful. Thank you. 4 

## MR. BROOKMAN: So, that was Ashley 5 

## Armstrong. Thank you Ashley. Additional thoughts 6 

## here, comments here before we go back to where we 7 

## left off? Lots of results. Comments on these 8 

## slides. 9 

## (Pause.) 10 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay. 11 

## MS. NI: Okay, I will turn to Nicole from 12 

## Navigant. 13 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you. 14 

## MS. BUCCITELLI: Hi, I'm Nicole Buccitelli 15 

## from Navigant. I'll be presenting on the 16 

## manufacturing impact analysis. 17 

## The purpose of the manufacturing impact 18 

## analysis or MIA is to assess the impacts of potential 19 

## energy standards on manufacturers, and in doing this 20 

## also estimate impacts on manufacturer subgroups such 21 

## as small businesses that may be disproportionately 22 

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## regulatory impacts, impacts to direct employment, 2 

## competition, and manufacturing capacity in the 3 

## industry. 4 

## In terms of methodology, the Government 5 

## Regulatory Impact Model or GRIM is used to analyze 6 

## industry cash flows and estimate industry net present 7 

## value at the base case and at each possible standard 8 

## level. Interviews with manufacturers are used to 9 

## refine inputs to the GRIM and develop subgroup 10 

## analyses and also in order to address qualitative 11 

## issues that are covered in the MIA. 12 

## In a little bit more detail, the MIA can 13 

## be broken down into three phases of analysis. In 14 

## phase one, DOE builds from the information developed 15 

## in the market and tech assessment, supplementing this 16 

## information with additional market research in order 17 

## to create a profile for the industry. During the 18 

## phase, DOE also identifies important issues that 19 

## require further investigation. 20 

## In phase two, DOE develops a preliminary 21 

## industry cash flow model using the information 22 

## compiled in phase one and initial inputs from theNotice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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## engineering and shipments analyses. DOE also 2 

## prepares an interview questionnaire which will serve 3 

## as the basis for discussions with manufacturers. 4 

## In phase three, DOE interviews 5 

## manufacturers and uses information obtained from the 6 

## interviews to refine the GRIM and to quantitatively 7 

## assess impacts on employment, competition, and 8 

## manufacturing capacity, and cumulative regulatory 9 

## burden. 10 

## Just to point out, DOE did attempt to 11 

## contact manufacturers as a part of the MIA, and was 12 

## not able to schedule interviews. So, for this NOPR, 13 

## DOE relied on information gathered from manufacturer 14 

## interviews conducted in support of the May 2012 15 

## direct final rule. 16 

## For the 2012 direct final rule, DOE 17 

## interviewed manufacturers representing approximately 18 

## 80 percent of residential dishwasher sales. At the 19 

## time, key issues included impact of potential 20 

## standards on wash performance, drying performance, 21 

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## rates of service calls, rejection of poorly 2 

## performing products in the marketplace and changes in 3 

## usage behavior. 4 

## Manufacturers also raised concerns over 5 

## test procedures, citing such issues as the multitude 6 

## of test procedures currently in the field and the 7 

## lack of performance matrix in the DOE test procedure. 8 

## Manufacturers of both baseline and higher efficiency 9 

## products anticipated an increase in competition in 10 

## the industry following amended standards. 11 

## Manufacturers whose market shares was largely 12 

## attributed to baseline products expected to see 13 

## either the removal of features from higher efficiency 14 

## units as a means to cut costs, to maintain a low cost 15 

## minimally compliant product offering or the 16 

## disappearance of entry level models as they're forced 17 

## to add other features and costs in line with current 18 

## higher efficiency products. 19 

## Finally, manufacturers expressed concern 20 

## about cumulative regulatory burdens they face as 21 

## dishwashers are only one of a suite of products they 22 

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## MR. BROOKMAN: I believe there are key 2 

## issues that you would wish to note here. Yes, Ed. 3 

## Osann? 4 

## MR. OSANN: Yes, I just want to come back 5 

## to the comment that DOE was unable to -- sought to 6 

## schedule interviews with manufacturers, but was 7 

## unable to I think that was your word. Does that mean 8 

## that -- what does that mean? Does that mean that the 9 

## manufacturers wouldn't take the appointments or that 10 

## window of -- the time window was too narrow to 11 

## arrangement those, or what does it mean? 12 

## MS. BUCCITELLI: DOE contacted 13 

## manufacturers and did not receive any comments about 14 

## wanting to participate in interviews on the part of 15 

## manufacturers. 16 

## MR. OSANN: So, DOE contacted 17 

## manufacturers to seek an interview. 18 

## MS. BUCCITELLI: Mm-hmm. 19 

## MR. OSANN: Okay. And the time period for 20 

## that, just broadly speaking in terms of was that 21 

## early 2014? 22 

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## probably in August and I think the last attempt was 2 

## made in October. 3 

## MR. OSANN: Thank you. 4 

## MS. BUCCITELLI: During interviews 5 

## conducted for the 2012 direct final rule, DOE 6 

## received feedback supporting the calculated 1.24 7 

## baseline markup for residential dishwashers. For the 8 

## current rulemaking, DOE continued to use the 1.24 as 9 

## the baseline markup. DOE modeled two markup 10 

## scenarios, the preservation of gross margin as a 11 

## percent of revenue scenario and the preservation of 12 

## operating profit scenario. 13 

## The preservation of gross margin as a 14 

## percent of revenue markup scenario assumes that the 15 

## baseline markup of 1.24 is maintained for all 16 

## products in the standards case. This scenario 17 

## represents the upper bound of industry profitability 18 

## as manufacturers are able to fully pass on 19 

## additional costs due to the standards to their 20 

## customers. 21 

## The preservation of operating profit 22 

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## the exception that in the standards case minimally 2 

## compliant products lose a fraction of the baseline 3 

## markup. This scenario represents the lower bound of 4 

## industry profitability as manufacturers accept a 5 

## lower margin as a percent of revenues in attempts to 6 

## maintain a price competitive entry level product. 7 

## In addition to the two markup scenarios, 8 

## DOE modeled two conversion cost scenarios for this 9 

## NOPR. First, DOE scaled the product and capital 10 

## conversion cost estimates divulged for the May 2012 11 

## direct final rule to reflect the new efficiency 12 

## levels for each product costs. Additionally, DOE 13 

## developed a separate capital conversion cost scenario 14 

## using the engineering cost model developed for this 15 

## NOPR. 16 

## For this estimate, DOE identified the 17 

## design pathways considered in the engineering 18 

## analysis, estimated the cost of the changes in 19 

## production, equipment to implement each design option 20 

## and aggregated these costs to reflect the 21 

## industry-wide investment using an estimate of the 22 

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## families currently marketed by each manufacturer. 2 

## Given that the DOE modeled two markup 3 

## scenarios and two conversion cost scenarios, there 4 

## was a total of four different scenarios analyzed in 5 

## the GRIM. The results of the four scenarios are on 6 

## this slide and in the next slide. The two tables on 7 

## this slide represent INPV results using the estimates 8 

## of product and capital conversion costs scaled from 9 

## the 2012 direct final rule with the preservation of 10 

## gross margin percent markup scenario in the top table 11 

## and the preservation of operating profit markup 12 

## scenario in the bottom table. 13 

## Because standard dishwashers represent 14 

## over 90 percent of product shipments, changes to this 15 

## product class contribute to the majority of the 16 

## impacts to INPV across all TSLS. 17 

## And I'll show the next and then I'll talk 18 

## about the results for that. 19 

## (Slide shown) 20 

## MS. BUCCITELLI: The two tables on this 21 

## slide use estimates of capital conversion costs based 22 

## on the engineering cost model, again with theNotice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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## preservation of gross margin percent markup scenario 2 

## on the top and the preservation of operating profit 3 

## markup scenario on the bottom. 4 

## At TSL1, DOE estimates impacts on INPV to 5 

## range from a change of negative 7.4 percent to 6 

## negative 13.7 percent. In all scenarios, the impact 7 

## on INPV stems largely from the conversion costs 8 

## required to switch production lines from 9 

## manufacturing baseline units to those meeting EL1 for 10 

## standard dishwashers. 11 

## The design options proposed to meet TSL1 12 

## relate primarily to minimizing the amount of wash 13 

## water through spray arm optimization, filter 14 

## improvement, and enabling greater control over the 15 

## wash water temperature. Total conversion costs are 16 

## estimated to range from 73.7 million to 118 million. 17 

## At TSL2, DOE estimates impacts on INPV to 18 

## range from negative 17.7 percent to negative 34.7 19 

## percent. For standard dishwashers, the improvements 20 

## required to meet TSL2 included exchanging a heated 21 

## drying system for a condensation drying system 22 

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## incorporating a flow meter, temperature sensor and 2 

## soil sensor to finely tune water consumption, 3 

## temperature, and the drying cycle. 4 

## For standard dishwashers only 3.7 percent 5 

## of shipments currently meet standards specified by 6 

## TSL2. Total conversion costs are estimated to range 7 

## from 233.7 million to 281.4 million. 8 

## Finally, at TSL3, the max tech level for 9 

## both product classes, DOE estimates INPV to range 10 

## from a change of negative 24 percent to negative 40.9 11 

## percent, the impact of INPV is most severe at TSL3 12 

## because less than 1 percent of shipments meet this 13 

## level. Because so few products exist at this level, 14 

## nearly all manufacturers would face complete redesign 15 

## for products to meet the standard. 16 

## DOE expects manufacturers of standard 17 

## dishwashers would incorporate similar design options 18 

## at TSL3 as at TSL2 extended to include more highly 19 

## optimized control strategies that would further 20 

## reduce the wash and rinse water temperatures. 21 

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## configuration would exit the market for these 2 

## products at TSL3. 3 

## DOE requests comments on the industry 4 

## product and capital conversion costs estimated in 5 

## this NOPR. DOE also requests comments on any impacts 6 

## to direct employment and also estimates of cumulative 7 

## regulatory burden. 8 

## MR. BROOKMAN: And it's worth noting that 9 

## manufacturers have access to nondisclosure agreements 10 

## with Navigant, so they send -- make sure that you're 11 

## aware that they can send information to Navigant that 12 

## will never see the light of day, so if you wish to 13 

## contribute that to the analysis here. Additional 14 

## thoughts, comments here? 15 

## (Pause.) 16 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay. 17 

## MS. DUNHAM: Okay, we're coming into the 18 

## home stretch here. 19 

## (Slide shown) 20 

## MS. DUNHAM: So, these are referred to as 21 

## downstream analyses, and I'm going to step through 22 

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## again, any comments or information provided would be 2 

## appreciated. 3 

## So, the consumer subgroup analysis is to 4 

## look at parts of the consumer population that may be 5 

## adversely affected by a standard for dishwashers. We 6 

## looked at senior-only households and low-income 7 

## households. I thought there was a chart here, but 8 

## there's not. You can see a chart in the TSD in 9 

## chapter 11, showing that the impacts are not 10 

## noticeably different for the subgroup populations as 11 

## compared to the total population. 12 

## So, moving on to the emissions analysis, 13 

## DOE looks at emission reductions from the proposed 14 

## energy conservation standards. This includes both 15 

## power plant emissions and upstream emissions called 16 

## the full-fuel cycle. We've produced results using a 17 

## time series of energy savings and employ EIA's NEMS, 18 

## the National Energy Modeling System. 19 

## (Slide shown) 20 

## MS. DUNHAM: These are results for the 21 

## proposed trial standard level two. The emissions 22 

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## cost of carbon values that were developed by 2 

## interagency process, and they're used in all of the 3 

## rules that DOE performs for the appliance standards. 4 

## You can see that 2013 values here. We also monetize 5 

## the NOx emissions using average values from the 6 

## literature. 7 

## (Slide shown) 8 

## MS. DUNHAM: Here's a request for comment 9 

## on the social cost of carbon values used. 10 

## For the utility impact analysis, DOE 11 

## estimates the changes in electric installed capacity 12 

## and generation resulting from amended standards. 13 

## This is the same method used in the emissions 14 

## analysis. It's based on a time series of energy 15 

## savings and uses the NEMS model. The TSD -- I 16 

## believe it's chapter 14 -- has these results. 17 

## The employment impact analysis looks at 18 

## indirect employment impacts. The manufacturer impact 19 

## analysis looked at direct employment impacts. For 20 

## the employment impact analysis, we used ImSET, that's 21 

## the Impact of Sector Energy Technologies, and it 22 

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## a standard. 2 

## The last analysis is the regulatory impact 3 

## analysis. It addresses the potential for 4 

## non-regulatory approaches to supplant or augment 5 

## energy conservation standards to improve the energy 6 

## efficiency or reduce energy consumption of 7 

## dishwashers covered under this rulemaking. 8 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Let's proceed to the final 9 

## slide. 10 

## (Slide shown) 11 

## MR. BROOKMAN: I think we said this 12 

## morning that we would entertain any final comments as 13 

## we moved towards closure here in the meeting today. 14 

## And now we've gone through all the material. Any 15 

## additional thoughts, any final comments here before I 16 

## turn it over to Bryan for his concluding remarks? 17 

## Yes, Rob. 18 

## MR. MCARVER: I just had one quick 19 

## question. Johanna, you mentioned earlier regarding 20 

## the process improvement rule that it's DOE's 21 

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## followed when appropriate. Correct? 2 

## MS. HARIHARAN: Yes, that's correct. We 3 

## put out guidance in 2010 saying which parts of the 4 

## process improvement rule we would not follow, and one 5 

## of them is in order to make rulemakings go faster, 6 

## that we would, when appropriate, go straight to the 7 

## proposed rulemaking, which is what we did this time. 8 

## MR. MCARVER: Okay. Thanks. So, I guess 9 

## my question is what makes it appropriate in this 10 

## circumstance, if we could better understand that that 11 

## would be helpful. 12 

## MS. HARIHARAN: Well, I don't know the 13 

## particulars of the exact decision, but it's up to us, 14 

## so I can't really comment on that further. 15 

## MR. MCARVER: Okay. 16 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Additional comments here, 17 

## closing remarks, other issues that anybody wishes to 18 

## bring to the floor. 19 

## MR. STAEBLER: This is Manfred Staebler 20 

## from BSH. Just made a note, you know, when it came 21 

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## normally not the case. And I would like, you know, 2 

## to understand, first of all, internally what 3 

## happened. Was it forgotten? Did it go to the wrong 4 

## person, or sometimes it can come in -- I mean I was 5 

## working a long time in engineering. And if you're in 6 

## the middle of a project and have to deliver results 7 

## to meet your production date then the last thing you 8 

## want to think about is answer a questionnaire from 9 

## DOE. 10 

## So, I'd like to understand personally what 11 

## happened internally, but I think that's normally not 12 

## or should not be the case that you don't get a 13 

## response from the manufacturers. So thank you. 14 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay. Thank you. 15 

## MS. ARMSTRONG: This is Ashley Armstrong 16 

## from DOE. And I think we would agree. We do 17 

## typically get a very good response from the AHAM 18 

## manufacturers. And just generally speaking, DOE has 19 

## a very good relationship working with AHAM and its 20 

## members, and even those appliance manufacturers that 21 

## are not members of AHAM also impacted by our rules. 22 

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## NOPR, but there's still plenty of opportunity here 2 

## for us to engage and work together. So, I apologize 3 

## for being late to the meeting. I've heard we've 4 

## gotten a good deal of feedback today. And we may 5 

## not have gotten it right with our proposal. Really 6 

## what's driving our analysis that you see so far is 7 

## data and so a key to that is engaging with 8 

## manufacturers and other interested parties about 9 

## getting data that maybe the Department did not have 10 

## its first time, or getting different data, if you do 11 

## have it, that will help us inform our decisions as we 12 

## set up for the next stage of this rulemaking going 13 

## forward. 14 

## So, we hope that you will take this 15 

## opportunity, and as you work through your internal -- 16 

## I'm not sure, from the DOE perspective, we care why 17 

## you weren't able to engage, but we hope that you will 18 

## use this opportunity to engage now. We're open to 19 

## setting up those manufacturing interviews now. We 20 

## are open to having those conversations, and we hope 21 

## you will be receptive to that. 22 

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## MR. MCARVER: I'll second that motion. 2 

## Yes, generally, AHAM and our members and DOE have a 3 

## very good working relationship and we're certainly 4 

## willing to participate in those discussions now and 5 

## look forward to providing more information than has 6 

## been made available in the past to help with moving 7 

## forward in the rulemaking process. 8 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you. Other 9 

## concluding remarks? Ed Osann. 10 

## MR. OSANN: Actually, this is a question 11 

## as opposed to a concluding remark. And it was during 12 

## the discussion of the MIA analysis. And as working 13 

## through the description of the impacts at each TSL 14 

## there was also mention made of features and 15 

## components that were assumed to be employed by 16 

## manufacturers to meet those TSLs. Those didn't 17 

## appear in the slides and I just wondered if the 18 

## speaker can kind of cross-walk us back to the TSD as 19 

## to where the delineation of those specific design 20 

## features. 21 

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## at the different efficiency levels those are all 2 

## outlined in chapter 5 of the TSD. 3 

## MR. OSANN: Five? Okay. 4 

## MR. WATSON: And then I think it ties into 5 

## the MIA, chapter 12 of the TSD. So, there are 6 

## discussions of the design options in both chapters. 7 

## The engineering one will give the technical side of 8 

## it, and the MIA will focus on the conversion cost 9 

## impacts. 10 

## MR. OSANN: Thank you. 11 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Bijit. 12 

## MR. KUNDU: Bijit Kundu, Energy Solutions. 13 

## Just a point of clarification with the last dialogue 14 

## that was going on, if DOE's analysis changes 15 

## significantly or changes even insignificantly based 16 

## upon manufacturer input and discussions with 17 

## interested parties what would be the next step of 18 

## this rulemaking. I know, typically, it goes from 19 

## NOPR to a final rule. 20 

## MS. HARIHARAN: This is Johanna Hariharan. 21 

## It depends, but if the results do change 22 

## significantly, we can issue a supplemental as aNotice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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## proposed rulemaking. 2 

## MS. ARMSTRONG: But we also have other 3 

## ways of issuing revised analysis without an 4 

## additional proposal too, so it really just depends on 5 

## -- we've done that before like issuing a note of "For 6 

## comment." There are a variety of ways we can do it. 7 

## If we have significant difference in analysis, we 8 

## typically put it out for comment again. 9 

## MR. KUNDU: Okay. 10 

## MS. ARMSTRONG: It just depends. 11 

## MR. KUNDU: So, there other ways it would 12 

## be open to public comment. 13 

## MS. ARMSTRONG: Yes. 14 

## MR. KUNDU: Great. Thank you. 15 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Yes, Steve. 16 

## MR. LEYBOURN: Steve Leybourn from AHAM. 17 

## Circling back to the question I asked earlier, but 18 

## also building on that, would it be possible to, as 19 

## DOE's done before and Navigant's done before, to 20 

## provide, you know, the tests results in more of a 21 

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## two at a time because, you know, there's the water 2 

## consumption, the energy consumption, and clean 3 

## performance. If you're looking at two of the three 4 

## at a time, you're not necessarily getting the full 5 

## picture. 6 

## MR. BROOKMAN: He would like to see one 7 

## feature, one variable displayed altogether? 8 

## MR. LEYBOURN: I'm thinking if any you 9 

## recall like what was done at the last clothes dryer 10 

## proposal there was a list of task units and then the 11 

## various energy or whatever measurements displayed for 12 

## each of those results. 13 

## MR. BROOKMAN: I just wanting to make sure 14 

## we follow you. 15 

## MS. ARMSTRONG: I think we follow him. We 16 

## understand him. 17 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay. 18 

## MR. WATSON: Troy Watson again. In terms 19 

## of splitting out, I guess it's a question of whether 20 

## the data is split out in more detail in the TSD or 21 

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## MR. LEYBOURN: Yes. Yes, so see testing 2 

## "A" through whatever, the energy consumption, the 3 

## water, clean -- 4 

## MS. ARMSTRONG: I think we're going to 5 

## talk about it. He's asking can we take the data in 6 

## the TSD that's shown right now in different tables 7 

## and put it in a aggregated tabulated format so that 8 

## he can compare all the units we tested in a summary 9 

## type fashion is what I translate the ask. 10 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you Ashley. 11 

## MS. ARMSTRONG: We can talk about it. I 12 

## don't think there's an issue. The data is already 13 

## out there. It's just a matter of can someone in 14 

## Excel. 15 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay. And we have a 16 

## comment from someone who's joining us online, Nick 17 

## Gillespie, I believe. Nick, please unmute your phone 18 

## and let's hear from you. 19 

## MR. GILLESPIE: Yes, I think -- can you 20 

## hear me okay? 21 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Yes, you sound good. 22 

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## heard that in a long time. 2 

## MR. BROOKMAN: No, you do sound good. 3 

## MR. GILLESPIE: Thank you. That's good. 4 

## I'm a little bit late because I've had my hand up for 5 

## a little bit. I know you guys were talking, so it's 6 

## not going to be easy. I would just add to what Rob 7 

## had said already about the manufacturer interview. 8 

## I don't want to beat a dead horse, and 9 

## kudos to Ashley for what she's put forth on that. I 10 

## was just, for the record, just stating I don't know 11 

## what the miscommunication was, but for Whirlpool at 12 

## least, and I obviously can't speak for other 13 

## manufacturers, but Ben Barrington and Navigant asked 14 

## Whirlpool for an interview on August 26. And we 15 

## indicated a willingness to participate and were ready 16 

## to go in September. 17 

## Ben indicated that the NOPR had already 18 

## been submitted at that point, that the OMB had more 19 

## questions and then I never heard from Ben again. 20 

## And I don't know what happened, and I'm not blaming 21 

## Ben. I don't think Ben's there anymore, but I was 22 

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## so I just wanted to point that out. But again, I 2 

## guess after hearing Ashley and Rob talk about it and 3 

## put forth what they have I mean I think that's dead 4 

## on. I just want to indicate that Whirlpool is ready 5 

## to take on whatever interviews, visits I mean with 6 

## commercial clothes washers and other rulemaking then 7 

## Navigant, if they should come up to the 8 

## manufacturers' facilities, we welcome that. We've 9 

## already actually spoken with Judy, so I just want to 10 

## reiterate how we would welcome it. We look forward 11 

## to it. And as Ashley said, we're ready to provide 12 

## data to help with this. So, that's all. 13 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you, Nick. Okay. 14 

## MR. GILLESPIE: Thank you. 15 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Additional thoughts before 16 

## we close out this meeting? 17 

## (Pause.) 18 

## MR. BROOKMAN: So, I'll turn it back to 19 

## Bryan Berringer for his closing remarks. 20 

## MR. BERRINGER: Thank you. The slide has 21 

## been up there so people on the Webinar, the 22 

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## to, the email is there, 2 

## ResDishwashers2014STD0021@ee.doe.gov, my -- Brenda's 3 

## information as far as you want to mail something to. 4 

## Again, we welcome comments. There was a request 5 

## from AHAM for a 60-day extension. We will get back 6 

## with you on that. Actually, Ashley's prepared to 7 

## answer that now. 8 

## MS. ARMSTRONG: So, we are going to extend 9 

## the comment period. I don't know if we're going to 10 

## do 60 days yet or not. I don't know the exact 11 

## timeframe, but we are still having discussions about 12 

## what timeframe it might be, but we are going to 13 

## extend it. And we're hoping that that extension will 14 

## be our good faith and your good faith will be 15 

## scheduling interviews ASAP. 16 

## MR. McARVER: Absolutely. 17 

## MS. ARMSTRONG: Thank you. 18 

## MR. BERRINGER: Okay, then at that point 19 

## I'd just like to thank everybody participating today 20 

## and on the Webinar, and look forward to working with 21 

## everybody. Thank you. 22 

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202-347-3700 Ace-Federal Reporters, Inc. 866-928-6509 Page 112 77:3 88:2 **gives** 36:16 **Glad** 7:21 **Gluesenkamp** 3:21 **go** 5:20,21 12:10 13:7 23:13 24:2 24:13 26:9 29:19 36:12 45:8 48:20 50:21 53:17 62:11 73:1 ,2 77:20 80:5 81:6 95:5 ,6 96:3 103:16 **goes** 79:14 99:18 **going** 5:10,20 8:4 10:17 11:19 12:19 13:1 24:13 ,15 25:11 26:7 ,12 28:8,16 32:3 33:15 39:8 44:5 49:5 54:20,21 ,21 58:9,11 ,15 60:7 61:8 62:10 64:10 66:8,21 67:11 71:15 73:2,8,9 79:12 91:21 97:12 99:14 102:4 103:6 105:8 ,9,12 **good** 5:3 ,12,17 11:9 13:8 58:2,7 96:17 96:19,22 97:4 98:3 102:21 ,22 103:2,3 105:14,14 **goods** 59:19 **Gopal** 2:11 7:6,6 67:10,10 68:1 ,4 **gotten** 9:21 41:10 97:4,5 **government** 6:10 13:10 14:19 82:4 **granted** 17:2 **granting** 19:22 **graph** 69:8 71:11 ,16 **graphics** 65:16 **Great** 100:14 **greater** 17:16 58:16 69:1 89:14 **green** 69:11 **GRIM** 82:5 ,9 83:6 88:5 **gross** 86:10,13 88:10 89:1 **ground** 9:13 72:22 **guess** 32:3 79:20 95:8 101:19 104:2 **guidance** 23:21 24:1 94:21 95:3 **guideline** 78:5

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**I ICF**  4:5 **identified** 13:14 19:18 30:14,15 33:20 36:22 87:16 **identifier** 72:19 **identifies** 30:10 82:18 **identify** 29:10,11 63:13 **IEC** 44:1 ,3 ,8 **IEC's** 43:18 **illegal** 24:4 **Immediately** 8:7 **impact** 8:22 21:9 26:3 ,6 58:13 73:13 ,20,20 76:16 76:16 77:10 78:1 79:8 80:17 81:16 81:17 82:5 83:19 89:6 90:11 93:10 93:17 ,18,20,21 94:2 **impacted** 63:15 96:21 **impacts** 26:4 34:6,7 62:20 69:5 76:1 76:21 77:4,13 ,18 81:18 ,20 82:1 ,1 83:7 ,22 88:16

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**individuals** 9:10 **industry** 14:20 15:20 28:3 ,5 29:10 55:13 82:3 82:6,6,17 ,21 84:10 86:17 87:4 91:3 **industry-wide** 87:21 **inform** 97:11 **information** 8:3 12:17 16:9,16 17:18 19:9,17 ,19 19:21 22:17 23:1 26:16 29:5 ,15 ,17 29:17 ,19 31:16,18 31:18 33:1 ,5 ,17 36:14 37:4 39:13 39:17 41:8 43:11 44:7 ,11 ,18 49:10 49:13 53:7 ,13 56:3 61:5 70:1 76:4 82:14,16,21 83:5 ,13 91:11 92:1 98:5 104:22 105:3 **initial** 17:19 82:22 **inlet** 34:12 35:1 ,6 35:14 38:13 **input** 5:19 14:4 22:10 27:3 31:5 39:9 52:19 60:8 60:11 64:1 ,8 65:2 99:16 **inputs** 58:16 62:9 62:12 63:13 64:11 67:4 73:19 78:1 ,2 78:4 82:9,22 **INPV** 88:7 ,16 89:4 89:7 ,17 90:9,11 **insights** 81:3 **insignificantly** 99:15 **instal** 34:5 **install** 35:2 **installation** 64:2,3 ,5 64:7 65:2 **installations** 74:8 75:1 **installed** 58:19 63:1 63:5 ,22 64:2 74:2 74:3 93:11 **instance** 15:17 **instances** 61:21 **Institute** 3:3 7:17Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

202-347-3700 Ace-Federal Reporters, Inc. 866-928-6509 Page 113 **intentions** 72:14 **interagency** 93:2 **interested** 41:12 42:4 53:4 56:18 97:8 99:17 **Interesting** 48:5 **interim** 64:13 **internal** 97:15 **internally** 46:10 48:18 96:2,11 **International** 3:12 4:5 **interpretation** 94:21 **interview** 83:2 85:17 103:7 ,14 **interviewed** 83:17 **interviews** 14:4 55:19 82:8 83:4,6 83:12,14 85:6,14 86:4 97:19 104:5 105:15 **introduce** 11:6 **introduced** 39:10 42:20 62:3 **introductions** 6:3 9:8 **investigation** 82:19 **investment** 87:21 **invite** 11:21 12:3 **invited** 13:3 **involved** 43:5 **involvement** 15:4 **isolation** 14:17 **issue** 12:16 23:22 99:22 102:12 **issued** 17:1 **issues** 8:9 12:6,11 12:14 13:14 23:8 28:14 82:11 ,18 83:19 84:5 85:2 95:17 **issuing** 100:3 ,5 **items** 28:12 **IV** 2:10 **J January**  22:9 **Jennifer** 3:15 **Jessica** 4:5 10:22 **Johanna** 2:5 7:8 23:15 26:21 57:14 94:19 99:20 **join** 73:4 **joining** 10:10,19 41:17 49:1 73:3 102:16

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84:16 87:6,22 90:8,13 ,13 92:21 **levels** 12:2 17:20 18:1 20:11 27:17 36:12,13 ,18 37:8 37:11 ,18,20,21 ,22 40:2,18 41:11 ,15 41:21 42:6 49:21 50:2 51:16 56:8 60:15 62:6,20 66:17 69:6 70:9 79:14 80:13 ,22 83:21 87:12 99:1 **Leybourn** 3:5 11:7 11:7 43:14,14 100:16,16 101:8 102:1 **life** 58:11 ,14 60:8 62:14,16 71:8,17 74:22 80:6 **life-cycle** 8:20 **lifecycle** 26:3 **lifespan** 77:19 **lifetime** 58:19 60:11 62:20 63:3 ,22 67:1 ,2,7 ,13 ,20 68:6 74:21 **light** 15:15 17:12 42:19 45:21 47:3 91:12 **Likewise** 17:9 19:2 **limit** 9:20 51:18 **limited** 16:5 **Linda** 4:13 11:1 **line** 5:16 35:4,9,21 73:4 84:17 **lines** 89:8 **linger** 70:22 **list** 12:14 30:7 ,9,22 31:5 33:19 49:22 101:10 **listed** 25:22 **listing** 27:16 **literature** 30:17 93:6 **little** 20:19 22:7 25:1 35:19 38:8 41:10 42:14,19 43:16 44:16 61:20 62:1 65:21 82:12 95:22 103:4,5 **load** 47:4 **loads** 42:17 45:21 **located** 6:9 **location** 35:5 **long** 96:5 103:1

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202-347-3700 Ace-Federal Reporters, Inc. 866-928-6509 Page 114 **manufactured** 32:16,18 50:8 **manufacturer** 19:18 26:3 36:11 36:13 50:7 ,20,22 50:22 51:1 ,9,10 56:14 59:2,8 73:20 81:20 83:13 88:1 93:18 99:16 103:7 **manufacturers** 2:12 2:16 3:6,16 6:17 7:7 13:11 19:20 21:3 22:21 23:7 31:5 41:5 47:20 49:19 50:18 51:14 51:17 53:12 56:7 59:6 81:19 82:8 83:3 ,5 ,11 ,17 ,21 84:4,8,11 ,19 85:6 85:9,13 ,15 ,17 86:18 87:4 90:14 90:16,21 91:9 95:21 96:13 ,18,20 97:8 98:16 103:13 **manufacturers'** 104:8 **manufacturing** 37:6 47:22 50:5 ,11 ,16 50:17 51:5 55:19 58:21 ,22 81:16,17 82:2 83:8 89:9 97:19 **mapped** 79:15 **margin** 52:6 86:10 86:13 87:5 88:10 89:1 **Mark** 43:1 **market** 8:16 14:8 18:1 ,14 19:8 23:2 28:17 29:3 ,4,11 29:16 30:11 ,14 31:18 33:17 ,20 34:16,19 35:2,7 37:17 38:2,11 ,20 38:21 41:3 45:16 49:15 ,17 53:2,9 57:10 70:7 74:20 76:5 82:15 ,16 84:11 91:1 93:22 **marketed** 88:1 **marketplace** 84:2 **markup** 8:19 50:20 50:22 58:17 59:8 59:10,11 86:7 ,9,9 86:14,15 ,22 87:3 87:7 88:2,10,11

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62:9,14,16 63:4 71:9,18 78:8 **payroll** 59:17 **people** 5:14,15 9:8 26:8 28:10 104:21 **percent** 18:11 ,13 ,16 27:20,21 28:4 74:18 ,19 78:6,6 79:3 ,4 83:18 86:11 ,14 87:5 88:10,14 89:1 ,5 ,6 89:18 ,19 90:4,10 90:11 ,12 **percentages** 63:14 **perform** 23:3 **performance** 16:15 18:2 20:9,12 39:16 41:13 42:3 42:4,8 43:7 ,7 ,8,8 43:17 44:19 46:17 46:21 47:15 48:14 48:16 53:22 54:1 54:7 ,9 55:5 70:3 83:20,20 84:7 101:3 **performed** 61:20 **performing** 84:2 **performs** 93:3 **period** 8:20 12:20 16:7 17:3 ,4,8,11 17:14 20:5 21:8 23:11 24:6,10 32:17 62:9,14,16 62:17 63:4 73:17 76:19 77:16 78:8 79:7 85:19 105:9 **person** 11:5 ,14 96:4 **personally** 96:10 **perspective** 97:16 **petition** 17:10 **phase** 54:22 82:14 82:18 ,20,22 83:4 **phases** 82:13 **phone** 9:8,19 13:16 28:14 49:3 102:17 **physical** 51:20 **pick** 73:8 **picture** 101:5 **place** 30:3 **plant** 92:15 **plastic** 57:7 **platform** 7:5 18:4 **platforms** 87:22 **plays** 54:8 **please** 5:22 6:6 9:14 9:14,20 10:4 12:7 13:5 43:13 55:8 72:18 73:1 ,4 102:17 **plenty** 26:19 97:1 **plot** 38:10 46:20 **plots** 47:2 **point** 9:3 16:16 20:6 21:21 28:9 33:14 38:17 ,19 39:12 40:5 41:1 42:9,13 42:15 44:4,14 47:14 48:7 51:12 52:3 53:6,10 57:15 83:10 99:13 103:18 104:1 105:18 **pointed** 29:14 **points** 13:20 46:1 74:15 76:5 **policy** 13:10 24:21 25:1 80:14,20 **poorly** 84:1 **population** 92:4,11 **populations** 92:10 **portions** 15:6 **positive** 28:1 **possible** 15:18 37:20 60:13 82:7 100:18 **potential** 11:20 81:18 83:19 94:3 **power** 65:22 66:5 66:14,18 92:15 **practicable** 34:4,18 35:2 **pre-proposal** 14:3 14:12 **preliminary** 82:20 **premiums** 55:22 **prepare** 14:13 **prepared** 68:1 105:6 **prepares** 83:2 **prescriptive** 47:18 **present** 5:14,18 11:19 21:15 27:20 28:3 43:16 68:8 76:18 77:5 ,15 79:1 ,18 82:6 **presentation** 12:10 52:16 58:10 **presented** 15:16 43:18 ,18 52:11 56:6 60:4 61:12 **presenting** 26:1Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NOPR) For Residential Dishwashers February 5, 2015

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