{"id":199678,"date":"2023-03-02T17:54:27","date_gmt":"2023-03-02T22:54:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/?post_type=topic&p=199678"},"modified":"2023-10-25T16:43:17","modified_gmt":"2023-10-25T20:43:17","slug":"jo-dibella-oral-history","status":"publish","type":"topic","link":"https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/history\/history-publications-and-resources\/oral-histories\/jo-dibella-oral-history\/","title":{"rendered":"Jo Dibella Oral History"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"\" class=\" hds-module hds-module-full wp-block-nasa-blocks-secondary-navigation\"><div class=\"hds-secondary-navigation-wrapper z-top width-100 padding-0\"><div id=\"\" class=\"hds-secondary-navigation width-full border-bottom-1px text-center hds-color-mode-dark hds-module hds-module-full wp-block-nasa-blocks-hdsnav\"><button type=\"button\" class=\"hds-secondary-nav-mobile-button display-flex tablet:display-flex desktop:display-none width-full flex-align-center bg-carbon-90 border-color-carbon-80 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desktop:padding-right-4 margin-bottom-3 desktop:margin-bottom-0\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"margin-bottom-2\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"page-heading-md line-height-sm color-spacesuit-white-important\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tJo Dibella\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/h1>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"p-lg color-carbon-30-important\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\tExcerpt from her oral history transcript about her time working as a secretary for the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (NACA).\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-col-12 desktop:grid-col-6 desktop:padding-right-4 margin-bottom-3 desktop:margin-bottom-0\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"skrim-overlay skrim-left mobile-skrim-top z-200\"><\/div>\n\t\t<figure class=\"hds-media-background  \"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"904\" height=\"680\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/225772main-jo-dibella-904.jpg?w=904\" class=\"attachment-2048x2048 size-2048x2048\" alt=\"\" style=\"transform: scale(1.1); transform-origin: 52% 27%; object-position: 52% 27%; object-fit: cover;\" block_context=\"nasa-block\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/225772main-jo-dibella-904.jpg 904w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/225772main-jo-dibella-904.jpg?resize=300,226 300w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/225772main-jo-dibella-904.jpg?resize=768,578 768w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/225772main-jo-dibella-904.jpg?resize=400,301 400w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/225772main-jo-dibella-904.jpg?resize=600,451 600w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/225772main-jo-dibella-904.jpg?resize=900,677 900w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 904px) 100vw, 904px\" loading=\"eager\" \/><\/figure>\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong>Excerpt from an interview with Jo Dibella, by Jennifer Ross-Nazzal<\/strong><br>San Jose, California<br>2 October 2005<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:51px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ross-Nazzal:  <\/strong>How did you become employed by NACA?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Dibella: <\/strong> Well, it all started\u2014years back we had to take a civil service test in order to work for the government, and the government had quotas from every state.  So many from New Jersey, so many from New York, so many from Wyoming, and so forth, so the government had quotas.  I took a test in Newark, New Jersey, and it was a general test, plus typing.  Then I don\u2019t know how many days or weeks afterwards, I got a letter from the government offering me a temporary job.  Obviously I passed the tests.  It was from the Social Security Board.  Would I accept a three-month appointment?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I thought, \u201cI\u2019ll ask my parents if I should accept this offer to work in Washington D.C., a couple of hundred miles away from home.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They said, \u201cYes, why not?  For three months?  It would be a good experience.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Before I left home for Washington, I worked for a lawyer at five dollars a week.  I accepted the offer and went by train to Washington.  In those days Washington had many boardinghouses and rooming houses.  I would say that most of the people who came to work from out of state lived in rooming or boardinghouses or the YMCA [Young Men\u2019s Christian Association] or the YWCA [Young Women\u2019s Christian Association].  That\u2019s the way it was here in the city.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In June 1937, I rented a room in a rooming house off North Capitol Street, near the Capitol and close to Union Station, the railroad station.  Commuting by trolley, I worked in the Adjudications Section of the Social Security Board located at 23<sup>rd<\/sup> Street and Constitution Avenue.  The temporary position was Junior Stenographer at Grade CAF-2, $1440 per annum; I typed letters that lawyers wrote.  After three months I was offered an extension, which I accepted. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Since my appointment was temporary, in March 1938 I accepted an offer from the Census Bureau at the Commerce Department at a salary of $1260 per annum.  I left the Social Security Board and went to the Census Bureau and worked there from 1938 to 1942. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One afternoon I attended a concert at the Agriculture Department auditorium where a man who directed a choir in one of the churches in Washington, a Baptist Church, was directing a singing group.  Not that they were employees there, but anyone who liked group singing could join this group.  I met a girl there who was in the audience.  She asked me where I worked. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I said, \u201cI work at Census Bureau.\u201d  I was there for about three years, I guess, three or four years.  \u201cWhy?  Why do you ask?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWell,\u201d she said, \u201cwe need secretaries where I work.\u201d  She worked in the Personnel Office.  \u201cAre you a secretary?\u201d she asked me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I said, \u201cYes, I could take dictation.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>She said, \u201cWhy don\u2019t you come over to where I work, NACA?\u201d  I didn\u2019t know what NACA was.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So she said, \u201cWell, come in for an interview.  I\u2019ll introduce you to Miss Wheeler, head of the secretarial group.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p> I said, \u201cOkay, I\u2019ll see if I can find time to come over.\u201d  The interview went well and I was hired to join the secretarial pool.  There were about a half a dozen girls in the group.  Then when I went to report for work, I was assigned to a newly hired engineer who had just come from Ohio.  He worked at Wright Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio.  He was a civilian engineer at Wright Patterson.  At NACA, he was hired to handle the NACA Power Plants Committee plus a couple of its subcommittees.  I worked for Mr. Thomas T. Neill for about fifteen years, taking dictation from him and at times other people, when necessary. In the meantime, while I was at\u2014well, I should preface this.  We were at Dupont Circle working in a mansion formerly belonging to the Leiter family which the government took over on Dupont Circle at Connecticut Avenue.  It was a four story mansion.  We had a complement of maybe fifty on the payroll.  Our telephone sheet had two columns of names.  [Laughs]  So during that time I also took dictation from Dr. William Frederick Durand of Stanford University in Stanford, California, who was one of the main NACA Committee members. <\/p>\n\n\n<div id=\"\" class=\"hds-media hds-module wp-block-image\"><div class=\"margin-left-auto margin-right-auto nasa-block-align-wide\"><div class=\"hds-media-wrapper margin-left-auto margin-right-auto\"><figure class=\"hds-media-inner hds-cover-wrapper hds-media-ratio-cover \"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/bldg.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2048\" height=\"1662\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/bldg.jpg?w=2048\" class=\"attachment-2048x2048 size-2048x2048\" alt=\"Commonly known as the Little White House, this building at 1520 H Street NW, Washington, DC, was headquarters for NASA from its conception until October 20, 1961. It was built in 1830 by Benjamin Tayloe, who was its first occupant. Later, in 1837, it became the home of Mrs. Dolly Payne Madison, wife of President James Madison. She lived there until 1849, and it is now known as the Dolley Madison House.\" style=\"transform: scale(1.2); transform-origin: 50% 50%; object-position: 50% 50%; object-fit: cover;\" block_context=\"nasa-block\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/bldg.jpg 2922w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/bldg.jpg?resize=300,243 300w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/bldg.jpg?resize=768,623 768w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/bldg.jpg?resize=1024,831 1024w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/bldg.jpg?resize=1536,1246 1536w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/bldg.jpg?resize=2048,1662 2048w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/bldg.jpg?resize=400,325 400w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/bldg.jpg?resize=600,487 600w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/bldg.jpg?resize=900,730 900w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/bldg.jpg?resize=1200,974 1200w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/bldg.jpg?resize=2000,1623 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2048px) 100vw, 2048px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><figcaption class=\"hds-caption padding-y-2\"><div class=\"hds-caption-text p-sm margin-0\">Commonly known as the Little White House, this building at 1520 H Street NW, Washington, DC, was headquarters for NASA from its conception until October 20, 1961. It was built in 1830 by Benjamin Tayloe, who was its first occupant. Later, in 1837, it became the home of Mrs. Dolley Payne Madison, wife of President James Madison. She lived there until 1849, and it is now known as the Dolley Madison House.<\/div><div class=\"hds-credits\">NACA\/NASA<\/div><\/figcaption><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<p id=\"dibella2\"><strong>Dibella: <\/strong> Well, I stayed with Mr. Neill, the engineer, for about fourteen years, and I was asked one day if I would work for the Secretary of NACA.  I said, \u201cNo, I don\u2019t think I want to leave Mr. Neill.  I don\u2019t want to leave Mr. Neill.  He\u2019s been good to me, and I\u2019ve been here so long, you know, and I like what I\u2019m doing for him and the other group in his office.\u201d  Dr. John F. Victory, the Secretary of NACA, was the first NACA employee.  Hey, I could have been up there with him, but I wouldn\u2019t take the job.  They thought I was crazy not to take it.  It was a raise in pay, as well.  But I stayed with Mr. Neill.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Then one day I heard that Dr. Hugh L. Dryden, who was the Director at that time, his secretary was leaving, going back\u2014she was leaving her job and going back to Ohio to live.  Mr. Neill told me they had a list of girls, secretaries, that were eligible that they would call for an interview, and in order to work for Dr. Dryden, you also had to work for the Associate Director, John W. Crowley who came from Langley Field in Hampton, Virginia.  So there was Dryden, Crowley, and Victory, the three top men, okay?  So he said, \u201cJo, I know you refused the invitations to work for Dr. Victory, and he has asked you why you didn\u2019t want to work for him.  But,\u201d he said, \u201cyou\u2019re on the list for this job to work for Dr. Dryden and Mr. Crowley, and when you go up there for an interview, I don\u2019t want you to refuse it, because you\u2019re the first one on the list.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cOh.  Oh yes?  Who did that list?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, Helen did it, his secretary.  She made the list up.  I had the interview, not with Dr. Dryden, but with Mr. Crowley who said, after a brief interview, \u201cYou\u2019re hired.\u201d  That\u2019s how I got to work for these two wonderful gentlemen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Then when Dr. James H. Doolittle would come in, he was our Chairman of the main NACA Committee.  He came in and had an office they set up for him whenever he was there.  From my desk and through the open door, I could see where somebody made his way up to the ninth floor by using the steps.  One day, Dr. Doolittle arrived at my office.  I said, \u201cDid you walk up the steps?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He said, \u201cSure.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I said, \u201cWell, why didn\u2019t you take the elevator?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He said, \u201cI\u2019m practicing.  I\u2019m getting my legs in shape, because I\u2019m going to Alaska to hunt sheep.\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On one occasion, I was sent in to take dictation from him, and the telephone happened to ring, and he said, \u201cWho is this?  What do you need?  Oh, okay.  Well, make sure you get every name spelled correctly.\u201d  Whoever was calling him, and I don\u2019t know who called\u2014it could have been from a newspaper\u2014was asking the names of his crew when they bombed Tokyo.  But what stuck in my mind was when he told the caller, \u201cYou get the names spelled right,\u201d because there were a lot of people whose last name ended with -ski; they weren\u2019t Jones and Smith.  And he spelled them all over the phone.  Boy, you can\u2019t get away with anything with this man.  You\u2019d better get the spelling right.  He was very sharp, real good.  But anyway, those days were wonderful.  We had wonderful times, and I was happy to go to work every day, no matter what the weather was.<\/p>\n\n\n<div id=\"\" class=\"hds-featured-link-list bg-spacesuit-white padding-x-2 tablet:padding-x-3 desktop:padding-x-4 padding-y-5 desktop:padding-y-6 hds-module hds-module-full wp-block-nasa-blocks-featured-link-list\">\t<div class=\"grid-container grid-container-block padding-0\">\n\t\t<div class=\"margin-bottom-4\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"heading-22\">\n\t\t\t\tWhat to read more from Jo Dibella’s oral history?\t\t\t<\/h2>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-row padding-y-2 border-top-1px border-color-carbon-30-important\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-row featured-link-list-row width-full flex-align-center\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-col-2 desktop:grid-col-1 tablet:padding-right-3 desktop:padding-right-5\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"width-full\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"hds-cover-wrapper width-full ratio-1x1 radius-pill overflow-hidden\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"hds-media-background  \"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/225772main-jo-dibella-904.jpg?w=150&h=150&crop=1\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" style=\"transform: scale(1.6); transform-origin: 79% 11%; object-position: 79% 11%; object-fit: cover;\" block_context=\"nasa-block\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/225772main-jo-dibella-904.jpg?resize=150,150 150w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/225772main-jo-dibella-904.jpg?resize=50,50 50w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/225772main-jo-dibella-904.jpg?resize=100,100 100w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/225772main-jo-dibella-904.jpg?resize=200,200 200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/figure>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div> \n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-col-8 desktop:grid-col-10 padding-left-3 desktop:padding-left-0\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-row flex-align-center\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-col-12 desktop:grid-col-6\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"heading-36 margin-0\">Jo Dibella's NACA oral history<\/h2>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-col-12 desktop:grid-col-6\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"p-md margin-0 color-carbon-black\">Read the complete NACA oral history with Jo Dibella.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-col-2 desktop:grid-col-1 display-flex flex-justify-end\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/dibellaj-10-2-05.pdf?emrc=fd0212\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"\">\n                            <svg class=\"hds-featured-link-list-button margin-left-auto margin-right-0\" viewBox=\"0 0 32 32\" fill=\"none\">\n                                <circle class=\"color-nasa-red\" cx=\"16\" cy=\"16\" r=\"16\"><\/circle><path d=\"M8 16.956h12.604l-3.844 4.106 1.252 1.338L24 16l-5.988-6.4-1.252 1.338 3.844 4.106H8v1.912z\" class=\"color-spacesuit-white\"><\/path>\n                            <\/svg>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t<\/div>\n\n<div id=\"\" class=\"hds-featured-link-list bg-spacesuit-white padding-x-2 tablet:padding-x-3 desktop:padding-x-4 padding-y-5 desktop:padding-y-6 hds-module hds-module-full wp-block-nasa-blocks-featured-link-list\">\t<div class=\"grid-container grid-container-block padding-0\">\n\t\t<div class=\"margin-bottom-4\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"heading-22\">\n\t\t\t\tMore NASA Oral Histories\t\t\t<\/h2>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-row padding-y-2 border-top-1px border-color-carbon-30-important\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-row featured-link-list-row width-full flex-align-center\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-col-2 desktop:grid-col-1 tablet:padding-right-3 desktop:padding-right-5\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"width-full\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"hds-cover-wrapper width-full ratio-1x1 radius-pill overflow-hidden\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"hds-media-background  \"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/s62-04057-carpenter.jpg?w=150&h=150&crop=1\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"Photograph of astronaut Scott Carpenter on the phone\" style=\"transform: scale(1.2); transform-origin: 49% 28%; object-position: 49% 28%; object-fit: cover;\" block_context=\"nasa-block\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/s62-04057-carpenter.jpg?resize=150,150 150w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/s62-04057-carpenter.jpg?resize=50,50 50w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/s62-04057-carpenter.jpg?resize=100,100 100w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/s62-04057-carpenter.jpg?resize=200,200 200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/figure>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div> \n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-col-8 desktop:grid-col-10 padding-left-3 desktop:padding-left-0\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-row flex-align-center\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-col-12 desktop:grid-col-6\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"heading-36 margin-0\">NASA Oral Histories<\/h2>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-col-12 desktop:grid-col-6\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"p-md margin-0 color-carbon-black\">The important work of collecting oral histories for NASA ensures that the contributions made by dedicated teams and individuals inspire the next generation who will lead our space exploration programs, enable new scientific discoveries, and power aeronautical research.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-col-2 desktop:grid-col-1 display-flex flex-justify-end\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/history\/history-publications-and-resources\/oral-histories\/\" target=\"\" aria-label=\"\">\n                            <svg class=\"hds-featured-link-list-button margin-left-auto margin-right-0\" viewBox=\"0 0 32 32\" fill=\"none\">\n                                <circle class=\"color-nasa-red\" cx=\"16\" cy=\"16\" r=\"16\"><\/circle><path d=\"M8 16.956h12.604l-3.844 4.106 1.252 1.338L24 16l-5.988-6.4-1.252 1.338 3.844 4.106H8v1.912z\" class=\"color-spacesuit-white\"><\/path>\n                            <\/svg>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-row padding-y-2 border-top-1px border-color-carbon-30-important\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-row featured-link-list-row width-full flex-align-center\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-col-2 desktop:grid-col-1 tablet:padding-right-3 desktop:padding-right-5\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"width-full\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"hds-cover-wrapper width-full ratio-1x1 radius-pill overflow-hidden\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"hds-media-background  \"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/21-s64-14855.jpg?w=150&h=150&crop=1\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"President John F. Kennedy stands at a podium in front of the Manned Spacecraft Center to honor astronaut John Glenn, Jr.\" style=\"transform: scale(1); transform-origin: 58% 53%; object-position: 58% 53%; object-fit: cover;\" block_context=\"nasa-block\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/21-s64-14855.jpg?resize=150,150 150w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/21-s64-14855.jpg?resize=50,50 50w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/21-s64-14855.jpg?resize=100,100 100w, https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/21-s64-14855.jpg?resize=200,200 200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/figure>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div> \n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-col-8 desktop:grid-col-10 padding-left-3 desktop:padding-left-0\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-row flex-align-center\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-col-12 desktop:grid-col-6\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"heading-36 margin-0\">Johnson Space Center History Portal<\/h2>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-col-12 desktop:grid-col-6\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"p-md margin-0 color-carbon-black\">Over 1,300 oral history transcripts available from interviews with a wide variety of NASA team members, including managers, scientists, engineers, technicians, support personnel and services, and contractors.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-col-2 desktop:grid-col-1 display-flex flex-justify-end\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/historycollection.jsc.nasa.gov\/JSCHistoryPortal\/history\/oral_histories\/oral_histories.htm\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">\n                            <svg class=\"hds-featured-link-list-button margin-left-auto margin-right-0\" viewBox=\"0 0 32 32\" fill=\"none\">\n                                <circle class=\"color-nasa-red\" cx=\"16\" cy=\"16\" r=\"16\"><\/circle><path d=\"M8 16.956h12.604l-3.844 4.106 1.252 1.338L24 16l-5.988-6.4-1.252 1.338 3.844 4.106H8v1.912z\" class=\"color-spacesuit-white\"><\/path>\n                            <\/svg>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-row padding-y-2 border-top-1px border-color-carbon-30-important\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-row featured-link-list-row width-full flex-align-center\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"grid-col-2 desktop:grid-col-1 tablet:padding-right-3 desktop:padding-right-5\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"width-full\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"hds-cover-wrapper width-full ratio-1x1 radius-pill overflow-hidden\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"hds-media-background  \"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nasa.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/6870792orig.jpeg?w=150&h=150&crop=1\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"The photograph shows Saturn V S-IC flight stages being assembled in the horizontal assembly area at the MAF.\" style=\"transform: scale(1); 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