REF ID:A65366 SECREi 

Demeraad1a tof' Doeord 

Kr. Oon:t ilr::t ,24 

l. The 'G49Nigniecl atWttded a led.lift. wit.h. Ir. liebard c. ~ ~7)* at. 

~ 

t.lte •at1oaal var Col.J.e&e on 19 hnul.q 1949 Gii tbD ftbjfft ·n~ Counterdeliv•l"ed b7 Dr. JulJan 11. ~ ~. !'!es\ waa anociat.ed with t.u Ab 

Poree ~ p:rof!J'D 1a u. ~ t~ dur1Ag ibrld l:tr n. 

2.. Since l '11U not propared t.o t.&k\\ not.&, tbAl Wonaat.i»n which fol.low ia 

lhi\ed to '11!1 iapreaiooa ot \heft opinions upreaeed bf mo. lien llhich an eooaidem ot aoet 11rtore.n t.o ~ knit :;.cun.v ~. 

3. Z>r. !?eat, ett..r polnt.i.ntJ out that. it WQ not. hi.a int.eat.ion t.o :s>rovide hi.t 

UilC\Ca \dt.h tecbnieal detaUa ~t, J'Cthor t.o explain \.ha role c! cou.a~s 

in sodem wutue, begsn bis talk: -.it.ti &ppropri.at.e defiW.tion.n and An et0e0unt ot 

eutst.M.:iing ~ or the use ct $1.enl'Wlic Ccuntomeuures during t.be ~ 

\'137. Sia detinit.ions coo.to1*141 in pnen.11 t.o thou eontained in the Joi::lt. 

i.llie!a of start Memorand\llilt ot Polley~ 35. :i.uu. ot u~ples he uaed cm 

be found in the rvpori. on. Aa.d1o Count.e~ by tho Natica41 Re~eh and 

tte"f e~ Soard. 

4. Ur. "1'eat ot4.ted t.tmi..' 1n bia o:WU.on, .. need at. w17 hi&b levttl. ~ 

COl'lldtt.ee on~ ebarged. wit.h Nspcndhillt7 !or all upect.c ot all 

sort.a ot coun~.s. He said this ~m,aity l"Ueul\s has the t..l"f;JUblee 

count.ameuuna people bad in carr;yi.ng out ~bei.r program d"\1rlng the 'If&?',. particular].J lfitb1 (l} ~. (2) qoamnieaton, Md (') reaaarch and. ®velopuat poople. 

Ito e:cpl..d.Md bow intelU.genco personnol :omat.11.Me appeared mreasonabl.e in their 

op;>o8itJ.on to the o~ people. S. ia.dicat.e~ t.Aat., d~ t.he war, 

cowxtemeaaurea were C:Ol\t.rolled b7" G-2 (a gN4l aiatAJte iA hi.a opt nfcm) and that. 

an int.ol.l.igenu ot!iee»r wu along on a.ll coun~ pro.}49cta. It was a .. 

pl.&.1ned tMt c-ocrt.rol of eountAntN8Ul'9-S ns origiitaU.y 'VOlS\64 in G-i2 Oft t.ne ba&U 

~ ibe tiel.4, or:tg1MllT boa u B4d1o ~uves, was prineip&l.ly conc.l'IM!d 1ti\h Jowsng el co•mnlcat.J.ou, which 1l pertoJ'Md ~~17 wuld 

"~ly a.treei a •Jor IOUl'CSO of int.el.l.igeAoe. h then poiat«t out that thl.s 

reuoning saa ima.lid sJ.nce mn EJAot.J'Oftio ~Ulltclrauauna pro~ct.o wen dincted 

agaiAst, \Argete in ~ Z'8ng0a lfhich HM not nploit.ff 0,- intalllgencet 

gS.Ting u an ~ OamaA VHF alr-gromid a1rcuit.., wbicb could aot. be boar4 b7 

imcrcept, .t.&Uou. A goo4 laU&h as obt.a.iri.ct !'NII hia audUnce bl t.b6 rwauk -

\bat olea:naoe of lSleotroclc Couftt.oftl9&Sld'98 p~ wltb 1n't41Ugence waa .i..,. ex.t.1"99~ dittioul~ uot- cmlT because thq would ~ 1tpat-' on pneral pounO ot. 

!nt.erl'erersce, without. qplw.Uon. bat. &l.lo O.omme it ua uaua.U.J pret.t.7 41ttinlt. 

i.o ftfJQ f1.ad tbm. 1A order t.o di•eutJ • project. • aa1d that Rm'• in &lrope 

found ttmt t.he.7' could k ot groat •tlue iA lat~ prognma, btlt 

reqvoot.e .tm.Uatod. tor autho,..it.7 to pul'Wuet Reh a progns met. a\J'ttm10U9. objec\tc:e 

in the t~r 08 the ba.sl• ~ n.ch tactic-1 ~ llWltl isterfwe with th4t 

et.rat.egical .mission.a ot Ue runte. Approval tor ....- "8t1cal ua-ce waa !1Mll7 

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Declassified and approved for release by NSA on 04-30-2014 pursuantto E.O. 1352a 
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REF ID :,Jt65366 

Qi· -sECREr 

ro. ' ,n.45-84 zt Jc 49 llemranda ru BeeoN < coaw) 

ob\f.1no4 mm. bn (~)Jr W~}. S\1ll OD n:latiouhip wi\h int.lll-

~I be •i14 \ha,.~ iotell.iacff they (\he COlBlterHUQl'Q pao,Pl.e) ObUined 111··~. -......,, ~ \ht11"1'".. I\ 1• Neent.1&11 ho aai.41 Ula\ int4111.gaoo 

.tAd GO\lltAmlt~ •rk ~ and t.htt. 1.bdr aet.i n. t.ia be. complete.17 

atimp~. -

s. Ae .tor ,411~U•• "1.th oommllca\orl, 1 bollavo, nr. Wa.t. indicat.ff, t.Mir 

'ebJect.ioQ n,.9 pi'Ohahq on ~ of te~ o! J'Ot.ali&to17 lieUUJ'ff. lie ot.at.ed 

'that cur reaeoa ~or ciot )'atdn.g Oa1!1811 ooawnicaUone was beou.se ot UlC iat.ell1-

£*lM 'fUM id •eae. ~11 to<r ti.. NH re&eol'l, bG *-14, Uta Germana did M\ 

; jam. O"tU" stnt.aiw CMi 111f1.icatione. Thia wu probably a nriou dotoct. 1n Geman 

ffl1' 

a.trat.egy, 

cv etlme 

ncaUM 

COlll.d. 

OV lint• 

huo 

of 

btten 

8'.rat.eglcal. 

COStSide.rahq 

COIDIUJ1c.\.iona 

ma.reed by 

lr/91'9 

o!!ecU.n 

liO long 

Juaing. 

that ~ 

~. 

~ i'uKher" n4ted that. u4Uli.Q' of ~oat.Joa111'111 have increuad to nob aa 

ext.ct. bf \he ~WV that. the intel.ligeaff VUUO thereof will be A&gl1gi~le1 Md1 

u areAlt.1 we can Pi•~ w..pect that., Ou:&" 8\ra.tegical. cosawtlcaUou chann.u 1'1.ll 

be ~8.17 md etfec\ivel.T ftb~o\~4 \0 Ja-1ng. 

~ 

6. 4 ~r reHanh and deT•l.o~, h4t t-ellned tha\ \ha cloak ot .ecrM;Y 

llB!IV weapons ret.ards develcp!Nflt ot CO!.inttll"IHa.GVee tor aueh weapoas end 

that. in his opinion, wol'k on COlmtene&:NJ'Q 9bou.ld proceed with dnel.Qpaent- o! 

sueh wa.pcns. 

7. As add1 t.ional nppori. tor th• higb-leffl. oomaii.~.. he said t.hat !Qf 

reeponaihlliU.a choulc:l be conoeut.ra.Wd in ih4 hanU of a Nlativel.y &M.U g!'O\&P1 

beuun su.perior people ere nqu.ired and. tMlre Just. U""1a • t cwugh .superior people 

f,o go al'Gllnd. 

4. He stated that the deVelo~t program 1n ~ tiel.d ot Kat U pro&nesing 

~ia!a.etcrll.r, but that the t!'Sinina PJ'Ogrul leave• lluch to be caaind. 

9. h was hia opinion, bU:Ot1 °" J'O.O&flt. intelligence repon.a, that Run.ian 

nd.ar dffeloJ,Went. 1a at. ~ o~ to that ~t the Ce%!11G8 in the lut ma. 

c. c. ~ 

Cbi•f • ~iva 3ranah 

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