From: Katie Coughlin [mailto:kcoughlin@lbl.gov]

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 3:39 PM

To: Meyers, Aaron

Cc: Richard Parker; Alex Hofmann; Andrew Delaski; Ar is Marantan; Art Rosenfeld; Bob Saint; Bob Smith;

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Subject: Re: MVLI LCC & NIA with 2010 material prices



### Hi Aaron,

I don't have the results in front of me, but what you refer can be caused by a drop in the price of

the base case unit that is larger than th e price drop for the more efficient units.

If that happens, even though all prices may go do wn, the incremental first cost will go up. If you

compare the engineering cost curves you'll be able to see if this is what's happening.

Katie

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Meyers, Aaron < Aaron.Meyers@cooperindustries.com >

wrote:

Richard,

I just now found the time to review the revised information you had sent out with 2010 prices.

Something isn’t making sense to me. My assumption was that this version would include the corrected

start of benefits date (2016 rather than 2010), and would use $1.88 for M3 core steel rather than $1.30.

With the price of all core steels being much higher in the 2010 analysis, I would have expected to see the

incremental first cost go up; however, the results show quite the opposite. For instance, DL5 EL1 the

incremental first cost is $4794 using the 2011 data, yet it is only $2293 using the higher prices from the

2010 data. What am I missing? Can someone explain this?

Thanks and Best Regards,

Aaron

From: Richard Parker [mailto: richardparkerdc@gmail.com ]

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:35 PM

To: Alex Hofmann; Andrew Delaski; Aris Marantan; Art Rosenfeld; Bob Saint; Bob Smith; BrendaEdwards; Brian Coffey; Caitlin Johnson; Carlos Gayt an; Caskey, John; Charlie Drexler; Charlie Stevens;

Chris Bolduc; Chris Brown; Clark Silcox; Creevy, Jim; Dan Cohen; Daniel Young; David Flaten; Emily

Marchetti; Eric Peterson; Freeman, Jeremiah; Gary Fe rnstrom; Greg Coulter; Greg Rosenquist; Hirsch,

Bruce R; James Lass; Jennifer Tiedeman; Corkran, Je rry L; Jerry Hodge; Jerry Schoen; Jim Raba; Joanna

Mauer; John Cymbalsky; John Rossetti; Katie Coug hlin; Ken Winder; Mahesh P. Sampat; Matthew

Nardotti; Maxine Savitz; Meg Waltner; Meyers, Aaron; Michael Hyland; Michael Rivest; Millure, Dave; Pam

Costello; Phil Harter; Phil Hopkinson; Polinski, Ra ymond; Puesh Kumar; Richard W. Parker; Rick

Anderson; Rob Greeson; Robert Berman; Robert va n Buskirk; Robin Roy; Ryan, Paul; Scott Beck;

Simmons, Chuck; Steve Nadel; Steve Rosenstock; Ted Johnstone; Thomas Petrosino; Tim Ballo; Tom

Eckman; Wes Patterson; Zhimei Luo

Subject: Fwd: MVLI LCC & NIA with 2010 material prices



### Dear Colleagues,

Attached, as requested and promised, is the corrected LCC/NIA for liquid immersed

transformers based on 2010 materials prices. Th anks to Chris and Katie for quickly following

through on this.

All best,

Richard Parker

Attached are the corrected LCC and downstream NIA results based on the

2010 material prices. Please di stribute as you see fit.

-- Chris

---- Chris Bolduc

Energy Efficiency Standards Group

Environmental Energy T echnologies Division

Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory

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