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Ch, Fiscal Sec ...... (26)_ 

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4 November 1947 ~ . 

A meeting of_t~e Rotat1on Plan Ccm.m!ttee was held 1n'Room 117 

Headquarters· at 1000 hours on 'O October 19.47. The following were 

present: 

Also present: 

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Mr. William F. Friedan,, AS-14, Ch&il'iD&n · Dr. S. lCullback,, AS-70 

Dr. A. Sinkov ~ A5-80 

Mr. F. B. Rovlett,, AS-90 

Mr. J. L. Bull1van, AS·61 

Capt. B. W. 5towbr1dge,, AB-23 

1st Lt. B. 5. _Buchanan,, AS·21 

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Mr .. Leo Rosen, AS-70 

Mr. Mark Rhoads,, AS-14 

The Cba.1.rman briefly :revieued the orqer setting up the Committee and the results of its two previous meetings. He recalled 

to the members that atteP the second meeting no fUl'ther action was 

taken because uncertainties incident to budgetary problems and 

their effects upon olll" personnel levels and so on made it advisable 

to postpone action·. 1n regard to rotation. of personnel. Recently Colonel Hayes inquired rcearding the statu~ ot the Plan and indicate~ that he vented the Committee to resume its deliberations. 

He desired that the Committee should make additional spec1~1c · recommendations regara1ng rotation of personnel and indicated t~.at 

the matter of :rotating division ch1e£s should be· explored. 

In regard to the persons-already rotated (5mall. Douglas. and 

Ferner), Dr. Sinkov stated that he would like to keep-Mr. Small 

for anothar eix •onths. I~ was agree4 that no further rotation ot 

these pers~nnel tor at least six months would take.place. 

In.answer to the question: should rotation be made ror definite 

periods' Mr. Rowlett stated'tbat he believed that 1t should depend 

on operational needs. · 

A review of the lists of rotatable personnel previousl7 pre- pared by.the· division chiefs Yas made. Arter considerable dis~ 

cuss1on the names or the following were suggested for possible Fotat1on: · 

a:r. Dumey. P-6, Chief of A5-76 to be interchanged with Mr. Clark, P-6, AssistB:nt Chief of 5ecur1ty 

Division. 

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Mr. Gordon, p.5, Chief of Project Section , As .. 76, to be 1nterobo.11ged vith Mr. Austin, P-~t Chief or As~a,. _ It vs.a a~eed ~bat the wiahea o~ the individual .in eaoh ~ae 

should be consulted prior to ani tranate~. · 

Due to the d1rt1cult7 1n selection ot personnel tor rotation 

wben selection is based on individuals rathe~ than on the jobs 

held b7 them, it vas agreed t~t a bi-o&del' pi:sogl'Bin based on a. 

stud7 ot comparable job descriptions rather tban on 1nd.1v1duals 

be s~ud1ed. Mlt. Rhoads was des1gnateJ! to ~ke ~b1s 'tud7 • . . 

The Jtotat1on of Statr members v1th oper.e:t1ng personnel was 

discussed. It vas apeed tbat this 11as important because bua1n~sa 

~elations betveen these tvo catego~1ea of personnel vould be aided 

by a knowledge Of each other's problems. At p:resent, it there . are conflicts in vtevs these &l'e due mainl1 to the lack ot appre- ciation of the other rellov•s problems tor 1t 1s the exceptional 

case vbere a ~ff ~a..Q8d ~H OR!Nt,a:n~exp,~ence and 

,..i.ee_v,graa. Because .ot the l1m1tat0n on aailgment of grades higher t~n p.4 to 5tatf, in accordance with a decision made b7 

the Chief or Deput7 Cbiet, ABA, 1t vas felt that no good pu~pose 

vould be served in rotating civilians from the operating d1v1s1ons 

to the Staft, because it ia personnel of grades higher tban P-4 

ordin&l'il7 vb.o would accomplish the·moat good in this re~d. It_ 

was deemed moat important, however, that Start membel's be rotated 

1 to oper~ting divisions, 1n case the7 had no operating experience.~ 

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In the future, it would be advisable .to assign those Vb.o a~e to . occupy·Statr positions for a.minimum or a 7ear 1n the operating divisions. The present short tour is totall7 inadequate to give 

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,a proper appreciation Qf the problems to be encountered. ~he case 

.of the 32 AAF officers. to be assigned t9 ASA v•s cited. These oft1c;:er~re to be assigned to the operating divisions and not to __ \ Start. ence the7 will pro~bl7 be better expe~1enced than · 

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equivalen 4sA officers in their detailed knowledge ot operations ) 

and Will be better equipped. tor tbeir ovn1!'perat1ons· i13i~~ ~~r 1· 

Foree and tor effective 11&1$on with ASA.~ ~'1.1\~.-~· 

Rotation ot Division Chiera. Mzt. Friedman reviewed the advantages to be gained f"rom such rotation. In addition to the 

points cited 1n the m1nutea or the previous meeting, he felt that 

rotation ot d1v~s1on chiefs yould provide a fr,sbness in point of 

view and prevent "the sol1d1f1cat1on of people 1n jobs tor long · periods of time. An organization should not be dependent on one 

man or a very limited number ot men, arid although it would be a 

hardship on the individual to switch, the Agenc1 as a vhole would 

benefit. Ca~es vere c1t'd ot such rotat1on.1n·h1gh administrative 

positions in the Bell !elephone S7stem and in other companies. Mr. Sullivan vas requested to ascertain from.the Personnel Divi~ 

aion ot the Department ot the Army or elsewhere p~rtinent data 

'in regard to any studies ma.de along this line in the commercial 

t1eld. · 

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Ml". Rowlett objeeted to accept1ng as a valid geb.8Ml1z&t1on that the "new-point•ot-vievn idea 1a a good ~ea.son tor Pote.ting division oh1eta. It does not alVBJB vork out. and he does not 

believe in ah1rt1ns for the sake ot shitting. It vaCllnoiea occUl"a 

however, tb.&t is another mattez-. The appl1cat1on ot "new bl'oom.1t 

in pract1c.e o.tten has repercuas1o.na and tempol'B.1'117,, at lcaat, 

there is a poas1b1l1tJ ot creating 1na~f1o1ena1es. 

D:r. Sinkov stated ti.,t be baa bean :tn·his present J)osit1on 

tor a ;real' and.a baU'. It bas beeh. good e~parience becauee 1t h&a 

been new to h1m. Re feels,, hovevel'J that he 1e totallJ" out. ot the 

p1ctUl'e in regard.to crJ])tana.lyo1a and the reaea~cb la.bol'&t01"'7 

f'1elds. lie would veloome the change tori th~ at1mulat1on the.t it 

·would bring tO him. lH.s PJ'8B&nt Position· baa beooma J.a.z-sel.J l'out1n1zed. · 

Dr. Xullbac.k ba~ a neli~al reeling in. the matter.. In liia 

position as Chier or AS-70 he bas dea.l1Dga-v1th both AS-80 and AS-SO 

and is between the tvo. Bovever, he wo\lld no~ _object to rotat1on. 

Asked tor his opinion,. Captain Stovbr1dge indicated his view 

tbat rota~1on ot high-echelon personnel. 1nclud1ng division chiefs~ 

would be good foP the Agency. · 

Lt. Buobe.rian, 

was too ne11 1n hia 

matte:r. 

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representing Lt. Colonel Libby stated that he 

Pl'esent assignment to ventur~ an7 vie~~ on.the 

. . Mr. 5u111van stated that he bad no views on the matter except 

to see that &nJ"th1ng.done vas 1n bs.rmoD1' v:l.th Civil Service regu- lations. · · 

Mr. Rosen 1nd1oated that Vhile he lctiev that rotation ot high- echelon personnel vas a polic7 followed in the Bell Labol'&tories 

and else'Vher~1r he was opposed to tbS idea of shifting people around just f'or the sake or a cbange to aee what might b.sppen. 

Mr. Rhoads vas or the opinion that rotation ~ h1gher-eohelon personnel,,. including Btaf':f' members and d1v1s1on ch1eta, should be 

adopted as a general policy whe~ever or vhenev~ practicable. Be 

reiterated the fallac7·of' basing an o~ganizat1on on 1nd1v1du&la 

rather than on soUJld_~rganiz~tional principles. 

1l'be meeting vaa then adjoul'DGd to avait reports .r:rom Messrs. 

Rhoads and Sullivan. 

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D R A F T 3 November 1947 

A meeting or the_ Rotation Plan Committee was held in 

Room 117 Hq~ at 1000 hours on 30 October 1947. The following 

were present: 

Mr~ William F. ·Friedman, AS-14, Chairman 

Dr •. ~. KU.llbapk, AS-70 

Dr. A. Sinkov1 AS-~O 

Mr. F. B. Rowlett, A~-90 

~. J. L. Sullivan, AS~61 

. Capt. R. w. Stowbridge, AS-23 

1st Lt. H._ s .. Buchanan, ~~-21 

Also present: 

Mr. -Leo Rosen, AS-70 

Mr. Mark Rh°'ds 7 AS-14 

· The Chairman /;eview~riefly \t~e order setting up the ~- . le.> :J \·~ Nr d Q.Qg &. \-o ~ Committee 

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and the results of "· two previous meetings ... 

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~he -~~ C_omm!ttee.. }rtter the second meeting no::_'further action w~s . . a..v-el~~ 

taken. thle 4ie- -uneeP-'\(~ incident to budg~tar_ y problems~~_ A 

~~ " . ~ ~ S-b e-v.. ~ !.,),. ~ ~ rv--rvv:" . . - l.ilac:~personnel.. Recently poionel Hayes Jinquired regard- -~ . A . A. .. /\ ~-~~~~~. ~ 

~>o~ 

ing the status of the Plant\. :He stiptH·a-ted t1v\k the-tdea oE ~ 

~~.Ne.-~ 

~~·_J. d-be-exp-:tor~t-~t the 

Committee should make re&bmmendations regarding~~ personnel cf 

~~~°t~~~ ~ Jll)L,~~· f 

In regard to the persons already rotated (Small; Douglas . 

a~d Ferner),. Dr. Sinkov stated that·he would like to keep Mr. ~ 

Small for another six months. It was agreed that no further 

rotation of these personnel· tor at least six months would take 

place •. 

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In answer to the question: should_rotation be made for 

definite per~ods? Mr. Rowlett stated that he believed that it 

should depend on operational needs. 

A review of the lists of rotatable personnel previously 

·~he D1v1s1o; Chiefs was made. ~considerable 

_Jll;tt1ctdt~ the names of the following were suggested for possible rotation: 

Mr.·Dumey~ P-6, Chief of AS-76 to be interchanged with 

Mr. Clark, ?-6, Assistant Chief of Security Division. 

Mr. Gordon,- P-5, Chief of Project Section, AS-76,_ to 

be interchanged with Mr. A~stin, P-5, Chief of AS-83. 

It was agreed that the wishes of the indfvidual in each 

case should be consulted prior to any transfer • 

.. ·~~~e, d1~f1~]1~~~1~1t>'er~o~~~~ 

' · t1o~sed o~ 1'nd:f;1i'lc~.U.1:"'fl, 1 t was agreed th~roader pr · grsm ) .-- - ' - - ~ '- \ • ...:._ · \ .... ).'._1.,:_ \ -~ •• ::;-. I....,(~ , 

based on a study of_ comparable job descriptions rather than 

on individuals be studied. Mr·. Rhoads was designated to make 

this. study. 

The rotation of Staff members with.operating persoruiel 

was discu~sed. It was agreed that this was ~- important 

because ..lHaaer;:;ttzea=:pvesen~:&e-the 

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between , 

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these -~.r, two. cat,~~he;>~'tX:.'*~ -+~ Ct.NZ. ~ Ll.,v ~ ~ ~ oJ\.A. ~~ - ' 

IT't•bEL:i"s due ma ly to the lac;k of appreciation of the other · -

/\. - ~JL~·A-':I·:· -,: .. fellow's i>&~ vie~ is tpe exceptional case where a 

Staff member 

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any ~~~ operating experience. Because of the 

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limitation on assignment of grades higher than P-4 to Staff 

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in accordance with a 

CfJNFJBE~' p~ . 'I&~~~· ~~ ,ft'-A. 

decision me.de by,~c£.i onel NeU, it w~s 

felt that no good purpose would b~ served "' in rotating civilians 

from the operating divisions to the Staff, because it is 

personnel of grades higher than P-4 ordinarily who would accomplish the most good in this regard. It was deemed most important, however, that_Staffnembers be rotated to operating 

divisions, in case they had no operating experience. In the 

future it would be advisable to assign those who are to 

occupy Staff positions for a minimum of a year in the operating 

divisions. The present short tour is totally inadequate to 

give a proper appreciation of the problems to be encowitered. 

The case of the 32 AAF officers to be assigned to ASA was 

cited. These officers are to be assigne~.....C:~ · . 

~uivalent 

divisions and 

ASA 

not 

officers 

to Sta~e in their knowledge the7.vi111\--..-a-e1:-

of operations and 

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" . I' ~ /\ ·w_.+e...a.~~· will be· better .. eq.u1.pped for their own operationsAand for 

effective liaison with ASA. 

. Rotation of Division Chiefs. Mr. Friedman reviewed the · _ 

~~J.o~ ~.~w..-+&-~i(-h~~~ advantages to be gained from such rota ti on.A J:n=.tha t-4t would ~ 

provide a freshness in point of view and prevent the solidi- ~ 

f'ication of people in jobs for long periods of time. An . . ()T 0. ~ ~ ~bf,. """"1M-J 

org·anization should not be dependent on one man, and altfiough . A 

it would be ~ hardship on the individual to sw1 tch, the Agency ~ c... ~ 

would benefit. Cases were cited of such rotation in high 

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administrative positions in the. Bell Telephone ..iystem and 

in other companie·s. Mr. Sullivan was requested to ascertain 

f~ ~JJ..'f&L .. ff(~: from theADepartm~nt of the Arm~ pertinent data ~ t!l-e taepe 

in regard to any studies made along this line in the commercial 

field. 

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Mr. Rolflett objected to accepting as,._generalization e4 "'-·~~,: L:·-< • ,\ 

the 1\ new-point-of-view ,, ideaA ~CL~~~~~~~· I ·does not atways work out, · 

and he does not believe in shifting for the sake of shifting. 

If vacancies. o<?cur, .however, that is· another matter. The~ 1 

"ne~ 

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bz:o~m":C:fbe~ re~er~u~s~ons~ ~,dJv ~i~:r~ 

t~~ b~ri'. in his present posi- . . 

tion for a year and a:h.alf. It has been good experience 

because it has. been new.to him. He feels, however, th.at he 

is totally out of the picture in regard to cryptanalysis and 

the research laboratory fields. He would welcome the change 

for the stimulation.that it would bring to him. His present 

position has become largely routinized. 

·nr. Kullbaek had a neutral feeling in the matter. In 
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