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Vol. 1 

Report of Proceedings 

Hearing held before 

Subc 0mmi ttee on Patents, Trade-Ma1•ks and 

Ccr,yr1.ghtu, of the Committee on the Judiclary 

H. R. 2068 

February 16, 1956 -· .. ' 

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CONTENTS 

STATEMENT OF 

HenF"~ G. Fischers 

of' Fische~-s Willis & Panzer!) 

1735 Da Sales Street~ N. Wcp 

Washingto~, D. C. 

s·tuart g.!edden, 

Attor-~ey-at-law~ 

New Milfo~a, Connecticut 

Jo C. ~reenP 

National inventors Co\m.cilJ) 

Departmant of Commerce 

El"!lest 'ff., !feney .o 

·Attorney3 Bamard & Hera~!) 

923 - 20th Str.eet, N. W.~ ~ashingtons D. Co 

tc!ildol'l Lloyd. 8 

400 Tilden Hall, 

39!!.5 Co~"'aeetict11t P~venue !) No t1f o s 

Washington~ D. c. 

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~. R~ 2068 

Subcommittee on Patentsg Trade-Ma~ks and 

Copyrigbts 0 of the Committee on the Judieiary0 

a.Dao in Room 4240 Senate OX~ice Bu.ilding~ Senator Joseph C. 

Present: Senator 01Mahoney (p~esiding)o 

Also present: Qso~ge So Green0 of the Committee Staff. 

Sena~or OtMahoney. Tha committee will come to o~der. 

Mra G~een 0 will you be good enough to make a preliminary 

statemento 

1~is is the time 0 Mr. Chait-man~ set for the nearing on 

H. Ro 20680 which is for the ~alief o~ William F. Friedman. 

(n. R. 2068 is es follo~s:) 
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Mro Go s. Green. It is a bill which ha~ passed the House 

in !Ull se'l:;tlement of' all :r:oights in respect to hiis inventions 

i:n connect;io:n 'i:.zith militacy .11 naval and air. co:mmu.."'!.1.ce..t1o:-..1.s 

facilities which are now or at any time heve baen placed in 

sec~ecy status by the War Departmen~ o~ the Department of 

Def'enaeo 

It would appear that Mro F~iec"l.man bas in the years past 

developed.inventions o~ value to the United States from the 

defense stand~oint~ a...~d due to their value from that position~ 

they have been put under secrecy status~ so there has been 

coul~ gain any recompense f~om the inventions that have been 

or' .:~~net:1.'t ... t·o·. the' ·advernmerrc ;· · 

Senator QrI~!ahoneyo .\'mat has been ·i;ha report of the 

.De.pa?"tmant? 

Mr. G. S. G~een. '.l'he repo~t of the Department of the 

Army in this ease has been f'a.vora'ble,, and it is contei:ned in 

~ou~e Rep~rt No. 260 o~ this Congress 9 lst Session. 

The witnesses we have here today --

Sena·\';or Q•F"la.honey. When was tha·t report written? 

M~. G. S. Green.· ln ~he 1st Session, sir~ of this 
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the 1st Session? 

Ser.llator OcMahoney o \:.:"hen 6'.id it &SSS the House? 

~~o G. • S. Greano -It u ~essed the House on -- it was re~ 

Senator- O ~r~ahoney. Is tb.ex..?e &!!y opposition to it• on 

f'ile? 

f'ile s and those wi t1ilesses have bee!S. no·~ii':.led o 

One of the witnesses in opposi:'c;ioi'l is Mr c Henx>y ~ a 

lawyer here in Washington~ Do C.p with the firm of BaTna~d & 

of W~shington, D. Co~ _who is also an inventor. 

Senator QtMahoney. I see. 

Mz-. G. Sa Green. There are thtiee proponen{;s to the 

legislation, and two objectionso 

Senator 0£Mahoney. Vsl-iy ~ell, let us hear the prop~nents~ 

STATEi\'lENT OF HENRY G. FISCHER$ 

OF FISC1'dER9 WILLIS & PANZER,, 1735 DE SALES 

?J. 'ti. $ WASHIMC·TON,, D. C. 

l-!r. G. S. Greeno I believe Mr. Fischer will be the 

first witness. 
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attorney with respect to Ho Ro 2068~ the bill which the com-

~llr.. G. S. G~een.. How long have you been the e:i'.itoz:r:.1.1ey 

Mr. Fischer. Si~ce May or 1950. 

had two or three heart attacka; and being a coro~a~yg we 

thought it would be advisable for him not ~ attend this 

hearing. 

But if, Mr. Chaii"ll'lan~ tor any reason you wot1ld like him 

to be here, we could have hirn he~e within 10.0!' 15 minutes. 

Senator O •Mahoney 1:. We will see wha/G the evidence is as 

we proceed. 

!?lease pro~eed with your statement of the f'a.cts .. 

Mr. Fischer. The bills ~-ir" Chairman, which your com-
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o~ anothe~ ~ince 19500 

· T1.ae matter irJas !ir.-z13t ~Z?.s~ented to tb~ Dar_o~r-tr~ent D the 

investiga.tion.11 the Depaz:itr.~e:.'?.'G rn.ade i·~l3 fiL~l !»e~oz>t to ·i:;he 

Ju.dicia!!'y Commi t·~ee of the Ho~!l.sa in 1954., It Z'e19oz:i·;;~a in 

ravor o~ tha bill. 

In addition to th~ Depa~tmen~ of Defsnse -~ 

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Senator o~~ahoney~ Did it ~a~o~~ in favor of the s~.m? 

M~o Fischer. The sun and the bill~ E. R. 2068 in 

its present fo~o 

Senator o~!~1anoney. Yeso 

M~o Fischer. In additio~ to that, the National !n~ 

ventors Council has approved the bill. ! imde~stand Mr. 

Jo~~1 G~een of the National !nvento~s Council is he~e to 

testify today. 

A hea~h1g was held by the Judioiary Committee in the 

House in the early days of t~e last session. !t reeom.~ended 

in favo~ of the ~ill~ and the House ~assed the bill sometime 

in the last ssssion, as Mr. ~reen said. 

Senator O •r·'.!ahoney.. t-.Yh.ai; is the r1atuTe of the inventions 

which we are ta.l!d.ng a'ioout? 

!lf!r·o Fischer a I have no psX'sonal ?!~owledge. They are 

all very highly classified. I ca11 only aa~r:; l.n the 

cryptological field. 
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Mro Fi~ehero ?L'hey e~e in the fia1~ of cry~tology. 

Sern.ato~ ovrJ.!eir10::.~ey. Yes. Eo~o; fila!?'!Y i?ilventions ere thei>e? 

You talk of them in the ~lu~a1o 

M~. Fischero Yeso The~e e~a a~ least ~i~e~ at 1east 

nir.1e inventions:; two of wlli-:Gfn ne~e!" we:n.t to ~a.tent at a.11, 

'because they. were of S'L-~ch e. ih.i€;hly con.fidl.ential l-:.e.ture mo 

patent applications were eve!" filed0 a..~d seve~ on ~L~ichJI in 

fact, patent applications were i~ fact filed~ b~t then held 

in secrecy .. 

So 6 all-told, the~e a~e nine inventions spaci~iea11y 

that I know about. 

The bill would take care of those nine and any others 

that he may have had. 

·Sena.tor oeMa.honey. We~e any objections ~aiaao in the 

Patent Office against the seven? 

Mr. Fischer. I donf t thin.~ so. Two of th~j heve gone 

to patent recently, two of the seven.. The other five I donQt 

think have been considered, presumably because they have been 

maintained in secrecy. 

Senator 0'Mahoneyo We~e they used by the Department. of 

Defense? 

Mr. Fischer. I 'Ll!.'"1.derstand that all but one, c·ertainly, 

were used. There is a question as to one. 

Senator O 1 Mahoney o Did Mr. Friedman have a11.y part-icipation :i.n the 1me of them? 
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M~o ~ische~o Und~~ the policies of t~® eo~e~~~entp ano 

the law s.t the time Ille msi.Cle 'Gh.s iinventions&i f-l~_o B'x~iedme.:1-. was 

g:'..ve::.fh the conme:<.'ilcial a1d fo~eign ~igb:cs ~ his inven:tions. 

I do:n ~ t Jr..n.Oi.!Y whe'~lhe~ th~t answe~s YCUlI" question O!!' not a 

Ssn.e.toi? oir~lahoney o ~~o a ! tYas as1~1:rtg t<Jinethel'? li'!te W&G. 

employed oy the De~et~me~t of Defense to usa hi~ i~ventiono 

E·2!.?. Fischer o ! car..~ t ~s~;e~ 'Cihat o J. don~ t !(now.. He 

'i.':e.s not; ent:9loyed for th~ J9' ... 11 .. posa of inve~1ting ttese specific 

inventions. 

Senator oitJ!a.honey.. Was he employed et a11 Toy tl1e Dapa.r·tment. of Defense? 

Mro Fischero Yes 0 he has ~een in the employ o~ the 

Gove~nment as a civilian since 1921. 

Senator 0'Mahoneyo In what capacity? 

Mro Fiachero F..ie ~ork all the time~ Sir, ~es ~aen of a 

classified nature 0 but in the a!!~yptologicel field~ in C~'Ptanalysis and in cryptog~aphyo 

Senato~ O•Mahoneyo Ia he a recognizad c~yptolo~iet? 

Mro Fischer. As I u..~deratand it~ sirD he is ona o? 

the worldvs foremost czraptologists. 

Senator O•Mahoneya Is the~e any doubt about that? 

Mr D Fischer. I don t t think thezae is SJ"..Y dou.b·c abo~.lt it . 

The only glimpse I have had of' the na.tuX>e of his wozak, I read 

in the Pearl Harbor investigation~ ~r. Chairman. There it is 

disclosed thai.t it wa~ he t"!I:10 led ·i.;ne team that broke the 
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tha~ to the ccmmitteec &T-e 6 b~iefly~ t~£t M~a V~ieG:w.n in° 

ven·Ged c:ey-;9tc1og:!Lea.1 fom~lae ~bich ~·.Ye~e used w,y the ~j9art ... 

rnent of Dsfense~ &~d which we~s of ~~ch value that they were 

al.assif"iedl as secrete 

~ro Fischerc That ia right. 

Senator orMahoney. That only two of them went to 

~atent» althou.gh applications for patent were ES.de fo~ 

Mr o Fi sehez• a Seven o 

seven. Ai."161 two otba~s were 

presented to the Depa~tment of Dafen~a fer- which no patent 

application was eve~ filed. 

M~. Fischera Thet is rig[:ito 

Senator o~Ma.K~oney. Anc1 tha~i; ~1!3 .. W~iedman wee never 

compensated by the Dapartment of Defe~se for the ~es ot 

these inventions. · 

M~. Fischero That is right. 

Senator o~~!ahon.ey. ~hat is righta 

And the Depert;m.ent of Defense h=1s eppx=owed e set·(;lement 

with him tor the sum mentioned in the bill. 

MID. Fischer o That is right. D.Jt not. .....,. 

Senator QvMahoneya Does that summarize it? 

Mr. Fischero Tha:~ sum.me:;.~:.zec itc ! would just like to 

add one tn!ng.:i if ! may 3 r~h"'.. Ohairuan ~ l'!:he purpose or the 
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bi11 is to oon~ensate ~ro Friewna..~ b~~euee ot tha fe~t that 

b.e has navel' beell'l. £l.1ot'5ed tc e:;!~loi t eo11?1nez;eie1ly the rights 

whieh he himself has in this ~atent t~e way o~her Governli.le~t 

invento~s co~ld who i~vanted thitllgs tnat ~ar3 not so imSo that the :n~:i4ure of ·i:;he bill wot!2d be to com~ense:te r•!xac 

~riedma..~ for the lossGa which he auffer-ed because he was 

UJ.~a~le to exploit the com.?.ercial rights in his inventions, 

because of the very impozo·tance or ·those inva:.1tions to the 

United States Governmento 

Now, the bill calls for a pa~5'!1'.errc s :tn ef"fect a purchase 

of his rights by the Governme~t for.~he sium of $100~0000 

As to the relationship of that amotm:t to the valll!e of 

his rights &nd the potential losses that were involved~ I 

have no knoi-Jleq!ge.J> because it ie a.11 based on class=ified 

inton11a.tiono But in the repo~ of the Sec?'etacy or the Army, 

the final report~ the~e is a statement to the e~feet that 

classified information in the 11.ands o? the Depart:m.ent o? 

Dei'en·se indiQates that his pote!-&tial l:>ss.11 due 'Co tr..e fact 

that he has been unable to e.l::ploi t his cciT&wercial rights l) 

exceed6 cons1~erab1y the amount of this bill. 

Senator OtMahoneyo Nell, these inventions a~e still 

secretg are they? 

Mro Fischero All but two of themg yeag sir4 All but 

two are still ~ec~et~ and fr-om t~e infor-mation I have~ there 
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Senatolf owr:laho:"S3Jl o W~rt.:; whe:ii abo~t tlhese two'? 

~2r o Fise:fl.e~ o 'E'nose two heve gone to ~a tent. Tfri'..®y are 

no longe~ secret~ 

~nator orx-7arrion.ey 0 l~nd tir.ey ara pt.:1':}].ic? 

Mro Fiscne~o · They a~e ~ow publiCo 

Se!l'l!..a tor O •Mahoney" .im.d i\'~!'" Jr[<1iGdme..r.1 has never ma~1e any 

ef.f'o:r..-:.t to exploit the 'iralue of' this in any othe:ir maziket? 

Mr o Fisoher o l\!o S) :..,.e has not • ~e has not. Not as to 

those two; and.:i of course p as· to the re.st of them he cari..not. 

f~~d during the pe~iod that these two we~e in secreoyp ~hich 

?Jas a period of aioout 12-11.~ yearsp he was w..able to do ao 

as to them. 

Senator ooMahoney. If I saen to be hu~~ying you.:i ~r. 

FiseherS) ! a.'ll SU!'e you Will :pa:rdon mea 

Mr. Fischer. Not at all.:i siro 

Senator 0'fJ!ahon.ey.. Because tr11e Sernate goes i.."lto session 

at noon,, anCl we have some very i.myortant ma.ttel'"S coming t11p 

relating to the f"'vJJ.i~tioning o~ the coraoittees of Congresso 

So that u..~less there is somethil'lg mo~e you want to add, I am 

going to call the next witness, or aomething more that ~ro 

Green wants to ask. 

Mro Go So G~eeno May ! just ask about two questions. 
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M~o W~iedmen to ~etein the com..~e~cia1 and forei~.sn. ~ighta. 

Ill. oth~r casel6 t:hey me:rely took e 1icenfile" 

~ro Go 8. GP.eeno '!t!at was dona by essig~.men~? 

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M::? a Fiset'!e!' o Th-a license ~1as done~ pres~~ly D ~Y some 

WL--itten docn.hilents.. .!. have ~11ot had acce~s to them .. 

Mr. Gb Sa Gxseeno J.l{&ve you sear-ched the possibility ot 

e court action for co:mpen.sa tion i!.~ this r.!a ttez.i Ol"l the pa.rt 

of K·~r a Fri<adtian-.? 

M~~ Fischer. Yesv it has besn searcbad ve~ oarefullyo 

80 far as W·3 ca:r1 deterL1ineD there is n.o lege.2 r-'elief' to which 

have r-aceiwed oompensat:ton by the institwiiion of a. sv.it? 

Mr. Fische~Q 1 know noneb and I thin.~ the repo~~ cf 

the Secretaey of the Arnry ma!ieas. the spaci:?ic statemen:t thezoe is 

no legal relief 1oy any othe~ method by r~~ c Friec.t:mn o 

M~o G. S. Green. One other t~i~..So I note on page 6 

of the House repo~t are a number of patent applicationsp 

applications for patents~ set out~ and the inventor is ~r. 

Friedman. I notice in two of. ·~hem..:i however•:- Fz-iedman and 
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do they be:.tong? 

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ventol'"; s royalty o · 

·to give soi'l!e indication of tha scope involved in tiies·s 

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$50,,000 a year. 

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I do !mow that JLY clie:nt has been ctfered 'by an It;alian 
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ii~., C· • Q Sa ~t1ee~'l .. ~~01.1 J!.OZl~ L'WS'O ~?C·t~ 0(:0~9ie0l t~~l.2.t 

Just exactly whet is you~ ~ositicn? 
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they a~s &~~~op~i~~e].y 6YillP~thGti~£.1!¥ e7al~~tsdo &m.d wa are 

alw~~·s !li'i\iez:ested to eae that .i:nvantoz-e £:'e pi-;io&ie::.."ly ti!3eated 11 

not te©a~ea ~f t~e individual i~v~nt~~a h~t becauea ~e beliav~ tbs.t it inve~to~s a~s ~~~~e~l~ t~~a~Gd~ the~e will be 

i:Ti.OJ:.'le ::i.~:.ventions made~ and!.~ theloaefoz-a !; ·~h~:.~e will 'be a g~ater 

asset to o~~ natio~w.1 O.efc~se es a ~es~l~o 

~ro ~o So ~~ee~a A~e ~o~ a~triJJ.ai~ted gena~ally with the 

facts i~ the ~~ieoman ~aee which is u.~der dira~ussion at ~he 

p11 esent time? 

MrQ Jo Co Green. Only ge~e~al1y$ beeause~ for the same 

reason as has been mentiou1ad 'before~ tre hav~ ha.Cl gre~~t difficulty in gettirr.g s~sei£1~ lmol;1led$e.. Thia ia a ve~y 

highly classified invention~ gr-ou~ cf in~entio~s. 

~iro G. B. l?.i~een.o 'l;fn.a,·;; else crr~1 yoi:. tell us a1ooot it 0 

i!!'l. z-elation to the merits OZ' d~m.e~ite of ·i.:ih:ts bill~ if you 

Mro J. Co G~een. Wellv the p~ior bill~ I.believe the 

numbe~ was So 2283D was -- we we~e aaked to eor..mle~t ~pon it 

'fo1' Senator McCa~ran, an~ the Council took it ~P a~ a meeting 

in 1952.o and we felt st that tim~ that it wa~ ~e~y r..a~d fo~ 

us to specifically commet'lt on the amou..?!ltp bsca.use we could 

not really get &.~ facts duri:1g our investigaticn. 

I would liite ·i;o zieeci f"l'(:Jlf~ ·iice mih'all.''l.tes of that meetinsii 

just ver"J b~ieflyg 
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car~ to adc1? 

tion~ a routine inventien~ end he had ~eon give~ the eom.~eryou wouJ.d not have this ioill before you o It is 'becei.lllse ot a 

national defense that the ra.an was no~ able to enjoy legal 

been given to him~ which ia tne occasion for the bill here 
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is to !?res<alf}:t to th~ C<::W.S7!1esi~ e~ est_:e@ts ef '~he mttez:i which 

I trust i1!1l ba in ~~s i~~e~es~s ef ~he U~ite@ Btate2 ~"'ad i~ 

the 5.rt~:cerasts e:r <!line "ii'®.ii.~io:.:s ~a~ties 1:~hc w~till~ hi£1.ve the 

0:-ove!;,riJUeil!t nm~tw s,ust oomp~n~ation \;o tho~~ p:e::."so:rais e~~itled 

~d w~o~ ex@ept to~ sy~cifie legislation; ~ill not be fairly 

eom~en~atee Zo~ their inventive ge~iuso 

ir·OZ' t!\te pur~osas of this pres.c1~tation, ! &..3SUEe thet Pfiro 

gen·~1ema:.'1 and. a eoho 1~.~. I have no !z.itentioai o~ l~sli tt~ling 

a..~y cf M?o Friedmal~gs cont~ibutio~e to the Unite~ States~ and 

! att aware cf tl11e high reg&'~l!iCl in tYl:!.cr-i he is held u,y various 

Governmant officials~ 

! have bzd occasion to ~ea~ ell of the p~blic re~ord 

e:\re.ilt-.'ble ~ovalri!."'..g the var.:101-:.s Toi11s tf.i..et t.i..ave teeza i~tl.~o6i'Uleed 

in th.a ziespee'(;ive aessio~'Aei oi: the 82!-ld~ 83:."ld and Sl~th Co:i'!-

g~esaes o I came a~rcse the cla:lma of M~. ~~iedn~ in my 

investigation of t~e possi~i2itY t~&et the Co~..gres2 might 

grant relief to my cl:te:ntl3 after ex.ha.us·tion ·of all otheza 

remecd.eso 

X was startled to die~ove~ that M~o W~iedi~an e~paars to 

be eeekil".ig ~eliet fo~ oartain loes of eomm.e~eial p~ofi~s to~ 

Gove:rnmant use of ilmventiwe m.~te~ial and saei~t proees3~e 

which ~iJlza. Etiwa!'d H.. Heb~Zon had praviousl;v an'1 CO!!IQ1llrrex~:t<ly 

cont~i~~ted. Beca~se of the cl~ssified ~mt~re ot the matter 
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eootr->i~ti©ZilS i;p..i.. th ·~I~cse cf ~w·" X-!0't:alivi!l; ~.:t it i-rc-illlrl a~~e!' to 

b~ p02~i~lS ~~C &dVi~S~l~ fo~ t~e O~~e~Sp t~~O~ yo~ 

cCl1'1..mittes~ t© e$eer-tei~ mo~e f"wll~ tb® ~e~l ~it~atioc~o 

0-Vex-: a 1~erioel @T yea.!t•So :miy SS80Ci&tas S.!r..t1 I nave gathered 

~o~sid~~a~le 'W~~lassified ~:.te er. c~~ S!'!ng~a cf this hi~ly 

eec::. .. ~·;:; mat·Gsr-:i a:ne f"Z'~~ ·iihc"i; file ! t-.ro~:i.d l:U:ia to suggast 

·;;c yo!Zr committee ·;Yt~e neruas ~f ~ez•eoin~ wi'?.o ~oilld ·~hrcw .eon ... 

s:ttle?"e:.bJ.e lif;ffirb u.~:::m tllie ~ubjG·Jt ma·G;t:a~ o~ you~ CO!""L:littee 

.. ~1:il"&haz.i Si!i'L.~OV /) Route 2.1' U.Ie!s:ss!A.c Vi~gL"'liS 0 

Sol<m?.O?l !tullbacl-if; 125 -:-11a..~ B"illzten Btr.~eat:; No W cs Washi?'4£-

ton.P D. C,. 

A~miral Jose~~ Ra6kil..a~a 

Adlmiral J"Ol°'..?! Redmein o 

A~airal Joseph Nst1tge~a 

Captain So Fo Satferd. 

f~es Mo D-eiscollg 

Also !J the coo.:aii ttea coulol ai~ it~ hea.zii!Cg l~l?oceases 

:materially by se~l.ilr3..!fi'~ a t:Jainac~i~t of' th·a statl!rce~.t of the 

late A~iral Sa Co Hoope~D made Septem'be~ SD 1952~ at a 
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Dz-:1.sco!l has be~n subject of a p~iva~e act for 

rslief in t~is ser~@ field as a civilian employe~ of the 

i1e11 as with fellow employees of t~1 ... Q Fri~ciilan .. 

Mr. Heney~,. Yes., 

Senator oeMahoney. It ~..as been enacted? 

Mro Henry. 

Se~.ator 01Mahoney. Can you. identify the J.e.w? 
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All I em saying ls 

r.irr o Heney .. I d:i.d 
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tion .. 

NO;, S~.!'o 

Senato~ c~~Iahonayo You do not challenge t~e validity cf 

his i~1ventions? 

whic!1 othe?'s have cont~ibuted t·1hich now a~e cr~·!it;ed to Mro 
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..... '\? ....... the Federal 

Sene./.ior o ~Ma~or..ey o Yes o 

Daps.rtment of Defense to tne Congress that tha patents and 

of ·$100,000 as a. l"eward. to Mro Friec1ma..'"7'.; you -de not cbellenge 

that at all? 

tc the eom.Yi1i ttee teat, as we all ar-e harn.pe:r-ed somet(hat "by 

my ?_Jel?sonal opinion, sirs th.at $100JlOOO would no·;; go V0l"'Y 

tar tor any valuable inven·Gion in this tie:.d.l1 and that ·che 

vali..1ation or· $100!1000 may bs inadequa:t;e.. But the .... ,. 

Sena tor o a Mahoney o :i:n other words, you tr.dnit tl" ..e. t Mr. 

Hebern perhaps ought to be awarded some compensation? 

Mr. He:-.12:cy o lV".iay I eJi:plain i·t this way~ I did not :!.nnecessarily, Mr. Friedman. But fo~ pu~poses or the committee, 

and clarity of the record, perhaps I should say that we~ 

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• 

is ~ea2ly the pointo 

now clear. 

·this bill .. 
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·~l~is cla·hn. 

b~fore u.s. 

in:terests of the He'bern s:-1.tuation 'by blool::i~1g the inte:<."asts 

Mr-o 

Senator 0'Ma..~cney. 

o~ only ~ostponed. 

l"lere, it t1JOUlc: bs .s:. me·i.it~r ct~ jt'.!8~~ l'l~"o'".:.o(li t'l)r;· .c... ..... w-v·~ - ..... 0 o B!.!t r dcn~·t 

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I ai!!o foi'ceci to the:~ SE!l:'l.~ conclusion e 

~1~ D Hen:r3.. Only the:ii ! still t;h:lr.Jc ·~ha ca~i ttee should 

~1ltilize the facilities th~.t nay :~e e.t :1 ts hand to ba s1J:ra 

the Depa~~~ent of Da~ense? 

Senator· ·O~Mahoney. No, as to you7! O'f:m. cle.imo 
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.. this,·~ 

the Departreant of Dafense? 

equitabla basis 'f:oi• 

that 

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when we go to this pointo 

Sena.tor o ~Mahoney.. As one 1a11',il\S:'i? to another g I applaud 

i~ presented to youQ 

Sem~.to:... O 9 Mahoney o 

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s:'"!..n~~ 1902 .. 

Lloy~Q 

statement~ p1~ase. ·l:;o go ·co 

the i'loor o 

:r~. Llcyc: o You. !cave ·co go tc the 

Sena tor O ~ p.qahoney • 

sooi:.1 as we ca.n o 

Mr. Lloyd. 

S-ana to:;.'O O t Mahoney. Would it: not 'ile i~~ttez: :?or you to 

I do not trl:'ant to tal-ce si .. n.y ·~ne.nces 

with you~ health~ siro 

...... (Mr. Lloyds s :pJ?epa.red statei1:ent is ~.s follows~ ) 
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wonce:e? :lf I might; state for the reco:>."'d to ·~his oomruittee that 

sixth A.~e~iaan to be awa~ded the National Se~urity Medal 

by the United States Govenu~ent~ and as I unde~sta~d its he 

is one of the two PJD.ericans who alone have been a~ra.rded 

both the Medal of Merit &'ld t:he Na:'tio:nal Security Medal 

tor work in this fieldo 

Mro G. S. Green. ~ne question, Mro Fischer,, ~elative to 

If ! undevstend the law cor~ectly 7n.ot ~;he law, but 

the f'e.ct has ioeen sta·;;ed that $100,.000 is a modest su.Yi1 !'or 

the amount oi" work Mr o FrZ.edra1a..?l has do:t1e. Isn o t :t t true tha·t 

that su.t-n,, ·which passed. the ~rouse,, i1ould be sti1:0ject to in.coma 

ta.it? 

income taJto As a matte~ of :ract.:> the cont.1littee, apparently 

solicitous for ~r. Friea.man:s wel~ere beyond my ownp directed 
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roughly 25 ~ar cent. 

Sena tor Cr 1V1.a.hcney.. Of.'f the :i.. eco ro •