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Packard .from Elliott.-

Owen and Elliott met last night witl'.l Auboyneau and 

Guilleme and made ·very satisfactoiw -prc~res::; toward 

completion of' TSWG phase ... -· · ' I , 

(1) The names of 'the U.S. and U-~K. technical representatives were ·given _to the French. Ot·1en gave in addition· 

the dates.or birth and-the.years of experience in.communications security of the U.Ko delegates ... Elliott promised 

-similar information on. U.S. representatives tomorroli. 

(2). Auboyneau s.aid ~hat one· of. their tt·10 repr~sentatives would be the Chief of Government Transmissions, Commander 

de.Corvette Jean Rault who·is al.so a member of the Permanent 

Secretariat cf .National Defense. Rault t·Jas born on April 27, 

1910 and since 1939 has' ·been a apec ialist in. cryptography. He has held his present post.ei..~ce last December and· prior thereto was a transmission specialist in the Navy. He is 

said t_o be· thoroughly familiar uith· all procedu:i.--es affecting communications security in the F:rench Government except the 

Foreign Office. His office handles the· French.Government 

transmission and reception of all co:mnunications on milita~y 

matters, includ~ng NATO and.handles some of .the Foreign 

Office transmissions by radio. · 

(3) In the ··convex>sation with the French and with. Rau1t· 

who was asked to the meeting by. Auboynea·.i ·it was brought out 

that the French InteP-1'·Un1sterial Commission on Ciphers was 

not an authoritative body but waa ess~ntially a coordinating 

group dealing with communication security matters. ··Rault 

said they discussed methods not ciphers. . 

(4) Pa!'is -is clgreeable to the. Fren·ch as a ·meeting place·. 

Auboyneau urged that the meetings be held in tlashington just prior to another 'I'-SWG meeting but Owen and Elliott indicated 

that further relationship of this proJect·to.TSWG appeared unwise • · · · · · 

(5) Mee.tings will be held in selected I·linistry. of 

De.t'ense quarters at 51 Boulevard Lato~r-r-ta.ubourg (Les Invalidea). 

SSFA w111 talre special security precautions in an otheI't11ise 

well- gUa:rded build.ing ~ -

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. - . _ ( 6) Time for ccmm.encern.ent · of mecti11e;3 not yet firm 

although Fl'"'Snch ·seemed agreeable to a date shortly ·after· 

E.a.cter. Unless utherw1~e advised Elliott will propose either A9ril 21 or 25. 

: (7) Second member of.' )•:rench team will be .Jlamed within. 

24 hours and. will be· rcn1aroed pr~omptly· Ua.shington. He will . probabl~r be f':r·cm Foreigr1 Of'T!ce. It is likely he ~'1111 have backermu.1C. of Rault is· orenniza.tion .c.:;r branch of military service.· 

· (8) French will· endeav"or to obtain· COSMIC. cleared · .interpret-er as .Ra.ult obv101.;;.sly has rio. real lmm1led~~ of 

English. Owen al&o querying; U.K. Uhat a.re-possibilities 

bring.l.ng. inter·p1latc1• r1~0.'1"1 Wash1ngt~n or overseas U .s. scurces? 

(9) Furtl~er meetinzs ·rmia confe1·~e8 ~·:ill be held on call 

or at 5 ?~'l, Apl:·il 12 when it is hoped tnat rinal· agreement 

on. technlcal meet;ings can iJ.; i~a.c~ed. Irr meantime: each side. 

uill carr.munica.tc fu:c·trucr detail:J c.~ :'.:.ndicat2d above. 

. f1ieeting ~·ias in coi··dial atmosphere. At outset Auboyneau 

~aid it seemed somewhat :irregular· to him fol'" a eroup outside 

- NATO to be d:iscuss1ng NATC corG:r.U."lications matters, Owen and 

I said that we (\ta. not thinl<: thera should be an7 umi:a.l~ntecl 

tr-ansgr-ession on I·:ATO matters but that d.iscuasions ;.1ould be 

focused on ci:mmu.;m.lcatimm security princlplc:?s and 11 bad 

practices 1

; l':t"1:i.ch in rr~ny instance3 might be COfih"!lon to a.ny 

couunun:tcn.t1ons _ system. -

Urge i,r.rri:~d.:late sc1"'eening Rault a~ainst re'.idil.'I available -- - U .S-. 1nte111!;enr.e and -security sources and t"'epor·t to Elliott 

in Par·i~ iJy Monday .1 April 12-

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