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Jl:lnutes ot &IJMll Meeting ot Ad Hoc Cmm:l.ttee on Portuguese Communications 

Securit7 

HEID: Pentagon, 30 J~ 1951, 1400 hours 

PRESEIT: Mr. Yfllliam F. FRDDllAB, AFSA, Chairman 

Col. Gordon E. DAWSON, USA, lD 

CDR Mark T. LI'l'l'U:, USR, HATO 

J1r. l'I ll 1aa HARVEI, CIA 

Mr. Wimton SCOTT, CIA 

Mi-. Robert F. PA.CKABD, Department of state 

Kt-. FRIPDJU' opened the •eting by stating that he -~~ .~:2-f_ r.Jr.. ~ 

the .mambers to present his solution to the question in bani -A the 1 med.iate 

improvement of Portuguese communications security. He called upon Jllo. 

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Col. DAWSON remrkad that the same plan appealed to him. He 

presented the Committee with a draft report outlining a program tor 

immediate remdial .measures to correct the insecurity of Portuguese COllDlll1 

nicationa.(attached hereto aa Appemlix). 

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With regard to paragraph 2! Col. DAWSON remarked. that the statement 

that the u.s. was loath to refer the violation to the Council Deputies 

was baaed on actual fact, since it ia believed. that such a step would be 

harmful to Western ...... h-• ft•··>· s Such a step bad, howaver, been aeriou~ 

considered. 

Ir. FRlEDllAN rearked that in paragraph 2g he would, because of the 

technical difficulties involved., prefer that the word 0 aaaurance0 be 

aubati tuted for the word Rproofn and this was agreeable to the Comittee. 

Ill". HARVEY concurred. with the outline of Col. DAWSON1 a approach. 

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Ill'. FRDDllAN then called on Mr. PACKARD tor camnents on the plans 

proposed or outline ot a plan he had prepartlcl. llr. PACKARD replied that 

he would like first ot all to excise trm.I I the 1I01'da 

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PACKARD believed. that this might easil1' lead to their derivation that 

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To llr. PACKARD 1s repetetion that he saw no reason tor the inclusion 

of references to national. conment since the Portuguese might then realize 

their 8J8tem had been compraniaed. Mr. HARVEY questioned\the chances of 

their being that perceptive and with this view Col. DAWSON\ and CDR LITTLE 

agreed. Mr. PACKARD then remarked. that a normal follow-up procedure 

woulcl be to have technical personnel point out to the Portuguese the 

Ill'. PACnRD then questioned. whether it •a desirable to include the 

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this the pl.an was hollow. Jlr. PACKARD then asked what the U.S. WOUld -,..,. # 

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ot the Portug\l49ae in its relations with the U.S. concerning the Azores. 

CDR LITTIE remarked that the Portuguese had had 30 19ara in which to 

build up their stand in regard to the .Asorea and that that problem concerned a national question ot &OV'8reignt;r, quite ditterent tram thia 

violation of MATO securit;r :regulations. With this .vr. HARVEY agreed, 

pointi!JI out that in the question ot the .bores the Portuguese were giving 

up aaaethillg, here they were not. To further objections tram ll'r. PACKARD 

that the Portuguese might ask to seethe proot, Col. DAWSON replied he 

thought they would not ask to see the proof, that the;r would be so 

thoroughq trightenec:l that they would rather~ see it. ME-. RARVEI 

supported Col. DAWSON'a views, adding that the.l6,nister ot Foreign Affairs 

would probab]T be verr anxious to keep this matter 1rom the knolrleclge of 

the Portuguese dictator SAIAZAR, and would therefore be.most happ;r to 

compq. llr. HARVEY cited the previous uperience of the th.a. in regard 

to such matters. It is a long established practice in •ttersso 

delicate not to make an issue ot obtaining aact intormation. 

llr. PACKARD then said that, assuming he was wrong, should the U.S. 

rater the • tter to the Council Deputies 1 thereb:y alerting the French 

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virtue in Ill". SP,iFP'Clm' a oa111 ng in UIRICH, the Portuguese Ambassador, 

as a personal. matter. Col. DAWSON expressed. the view that this approach 

wou.ld be too limited in its ef'.f'ect and would not get to the main source 

o.f' the troub1e, the inaecuritJ' o.f' Portuguese conmunicationa themselves. 

Ml". PACKARD then aa1d that he thought a statement should be inserted 

in the report ot the Committee to USCIB that an approach to the Council 

Deputies was not advised. He also stated that he thought the last 

statement on page 2 o.f' Col. DAWSOR•s report waa not entireq justified 

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was accepted b,r the Committee. 

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A long-term program, as an adjunct to and follow-up ot the immediate 

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steps for improvement was agreed upon by the Comittee as necessary, but 

only as an adjunct to the immediate action. Mr. FRIEDMAN stated that 

Capt. WElGDl bad indicated to him that llajor General CANDE was not in 

favor ot piece-meal action but •s amious that improvement be made also 

on a general basis, mctending the measures trom Portugal to other 

countries. Mr. PACICABD then aalced it the Committee had abandoned the 

other plans tor inned.iate improvement, one ot which was instruction by 

the Security Coordinating Committee in the proper use of TIPEX. To this 

suggestion CDR LITTIB replied that\it must be borne in mind that such a 

mtter would have first to be considered by the Stanling Group, of which 

the French were a member. Hr. HARVEY also stated that the mtter would 

then be taken up on a general rather than aspecitic basis, thereby 

lessening its effect. 

To Ur. PACKARD1s query how quiclcl1' a visit · .. b7 a member of the 

Securit7 Coordinating Committee to Lisbon could be~anged, CDR LITTLE 

replied three weeks. CDR LITTIE, however, said that he would argue 

against this approach, for although the Portuguese were outwardl.7 very 

obsequious, the7 did not carr;v through all their promises. \Col. DAWSON 

confirmed. this view and said that in his opinion th~ effect ot such a 

visit depended on the initial step to the Portuguese Minister of Foreign 

Atf'airs. It was not practicable as an initial step in itself. 

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The draft report revised aa of Z1 Juq waa then reviewed and changes 

made as outlined in Appendix 1'B" and the meeting was brought to a close. 

'l'he CHAIRIWl asked M'r. PACKARD to aid him in dratting a report tor 

consideration of the Ccmmittee at ita next and final meeting, 'lb.ursciq 

2 August at 1400 hours, and which tim he hoped the report could be 

approved in final tarm tor presentation at the next regular meeting of 

USCIB. '!he CHAIRJlAH irriicated that he should like to be able also to 

indicate the decisions of the Conmittee to USCIB at ita special meeting 

on 3 August, should General SllITH raise the question. The meeting was 

then adjourned. 

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