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USCIB: 29 .11/11 Item 3 of the Agenda for/the '•.109th Meeting of USCIB, 

held on 12 Novemberl954. 

Subject: U.S. Relation~J .... ______ r (USCIB\29.11/S; 29.11/10). 

THE ACTING CHAIRMAN (General Cabell), pointing out that this itEm 

contains several problems and that it is of vital interest to CIA, 

suggested that initial consideration be given the CIA\recommendations 

contained in paragraph 5/of USCIB/29.11/l.O. 

GENERAL CANINE.stated that/he has no objection to recommendation 

5a; however, with regard to 5b, he reminded the members\that the 

Standing Group of NATO has already taken a position on this problem and 

recommended against the U.S. also handling it. He recalled earlier 

unilateral.U.S. action regarding the provision of' CCM1 s to thel._ __ ____, 

O ad caused great·······concern amon···g···i U.K. authorit·· .. ies and,\n······ ... oting that is a member of NATO, recommended that NATO channels be used in 

g this matter. 

THE ACTING CHAIRMAN stated that recommendation 5b does not "freeze 

out" NATO, nor doe.s it propose unilateral action on the part of CIA. 

In reply to General Canine 1/s question as to whether this isn 1 t a 

matter which CEm be taken care Of by the Executive Secretary, the Acting 

Chairman expressed a negative Opinion, explaining that the situation 

has become somewhat complicated as a result of I Jvisit 

to Washington. 

__ ___..G....,.ENERAL CANINE recognized the fact that CIA has dealings with 

I I/but reiterated his opinion that CIA should. not become involved 

1H the question ofl !internal security when the matter is already 

under NATO cognizance. He continued by saying that he would prefer 

that the Board not make a final decision in this matter until the 

members have had an opportunity to read a startling and shocking report 

which he has just received on other (than communications) aspects of 

Turkish security, such as security discipline. He stated that he would 

distribute the report as soon as he can obtain clearance to release it. 

THE ACTING CHAIRMAN pointed out that oqe phase of the CIAreconunended action is to attempt to improve j J security discipline. 

GENERAL TRUDEAU inquired concerning plans for accomplishing this • 

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GENERAL CANINE said that it appears t~ him that we could not take 

such action without first going to the Br.itish and \NATO. 

THE ACTING CHAIRMAN explained thatJit is not intended to act prior 

to discussions with the British. Pointing out that the main objection 

to proceeding through NATO (SECAN) channels is that this method is too 

time-consuming, he suggested that the•British be made'aware of this 

fact and be asked to concur in a direct approach. 

GENERAL CANINE said that he thought NATO could do something about 

this problem promptly if they wanted to, and, stating his belief that 

the British consider this a NATO>problem, he suggested that\we first 

determine whether NATO proposes/ito do anything about it. 

GENERAL TRUDEAU asked what would have to be given to theDin 

the way of equipment. 

MR. ROWLETT replied that nothing specific would be proposed at 

this time, it being a problem which would have to be worked out with 

interested agencies. He/intimated that general use of one-time pads 

would probably be pref,rred, but that it would be necessary to be 

prepared for al _query on how we make the pads. 

GENERAL CANINF- .said that he would "object violentl.v" to an.v disclosure of our methodology in making one-time tapes or one-time pads. 

ADMIRAL ESPE./ asked why SECAN couldn 1 t handle this problem. 

THE ACTING/CHAIRMAN replied that we have a peculiar opportunity 

with theltat the present - a chance to accomplish a great deal in 

a short ~He said that seizing this opportunity would result in 

much quicker action than would result i'rom becoming involved in the 

SECAN mechanism. 

On the subject of one-time tape production Mr. Rowlett noted that 

there are two one-time pad machines on the market, one called HAZARDO 

and the other a Hagelin machine, resembling a slot machine in appearance. 

GENERAL C.Ai.~INE corrunented that the slowness of operation of the 

HAZARDO would make it necessary to have several rooms full of them to 

produce pads in any appreciable amount. He then reiterated his 

suggestion that all members read the report he ~entioned earlier 

before making a decision, and enquired as to the urgency- of the matter 

from CIA 1s viewpoint. 

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THE ACTING CHAIRMAN replied that the only need for immediate 

guidance arises out orl !current visit here, which is to be 

followed by a visit to LOndOn. 

MR. ROWLE'IT added that some urgency is also occasioned because 

other plans are dependent upon action in this case. 

The members then discussed further the possibility of handing 

the matter with the British through SECAN. The great length of' time 

required to handle the French problem in this manner w-as brought out; 

however, GENERAL CANINE expressed his opinion that our own Board was 

largely responsible for most of' the delay. He said that he thought 

it would be possible to obtain much quicker action in this case. 

THE ACTING CHAIRMAN explained that there has been a tug-of-war 

between I ~ealings and that we presently 

have a definite advantage which we could press by acting alone. 

GENERAL ERSKINE said that he thought we would stand to lose more 

than gain by encouraging thi I to. violate established NATO 

procedure. 

In reply to a question by General Erskine, MR. ROWLETT stated 

that the question cf' improvement of t I communications security 

has not been raised by Turlonen. 

THE ACTING CHAIRMAN asked if anyone would object to CIA 1 s asking 

Turkmen if he has checked his communications security, and recommend 

to him that if he does and finds improvement needed that he go to 

SECAN, through which channel we will b.e able to give him assistance. 

There were no objections to this action being taken while 

Turlonen is here. 

The members then proceeded to consider the draft message for 

GCHQ on this subject (enclosure with USCIB 29.11/9) along with 

recommendations ~.ade by the CIA member. As a result of' this consideration it was agreed that the f'ollowing\message would be sent by 

the Director, NSA to the Director, GCHQ: 

PARA l PD USGIB BELIEVES GMM AS YOU\PROPOSE CMM THAT IT IS 

HIGHLY DESIRABLE TO DEVELOP AND ESTABLISH A· .. COMMON AGREED UKUSA 

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PARA 2 PD RE PARA 5A CMM DGC SLANT 16 CMM COMM END PRODUCT PD 

SINCE THE US DID NOT OFFER 

PARA 3 PD RE PARA 5C CMM DGC SLANT 4916 CMM CRYPTANALYTIC 

TRAINING PD IT IS THE VIEW OF USCIB THAT BEFORE CRYPTANALYTIC TRAINING 

IS PROMISED CMM THE TWO BOARDS SHOULD AGREE lJ!lON THE DETAILS OF THE 

COURSES TO BE CONDUCTED AND THE TRAINING MATERIALS TO BE PROVIDED PD 

US IS DRAFTING A PROSPECTUS OF SUCH TRAINING WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED \.TO 

LSIB IN NEAR FUTURE PD IT IS THEREFORE RECOMMENDED THAT A PROMISE OF 

CRYPTANALYTIC TRAINING BE HELD IN A AN E 

ON THIS MATTER PD 

PARA 4 PD WE AGREE TO ADVISING I ITO APPLY TO SECAN FOR 

CRYPTOGRAPHIC ASSISTANCE CMM AS YOU PROPOSE IN PARA 5B OF DGC SLANT 

4916 Cl11~ ESPECIALLY SINCE THE NATO COUNCIL HAS DISTRIBUTED A ST.ANDING 

GROUP MEMORANDUM PAREN SGC 620 DASH 54 PAREN TO MEMBER NATIONS ON THE 

SECURITY OF NATIONAL COMMUNICATIONS AND HAS ISSUED AN IMPLEMENTING 

MEMORANDUM PAREN NATO TOP SECRET C DASH M PAREN 54 PAREN 78 PAREN 

REQUESTING MEMBER NATIONS TO APPLY TO SECAN FOR ADVICE AND ASSISTANCE 

ON TECHNICAL MATTERS PD 

PARA 5 PD GEN CANINE WILL DISCUSS ABOVE WITH YOU 

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DECISION: (12 November 1954) USCIB approved the foregoing message 

for dispatch to the Director, GCHQ, and agreed that the matter of 

improvement of I linternal security would. be approached through 

NATO (SECAN) channels rather than independently by the U.S. before 

or after consultation with the British. In. this connection it was 

agreed tol I, during 

his visit here, that if he checks communications security 

and finds it needs improvement he s o make application through 

NATO for assistance. 

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