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Minutes of the 5th regular SCAG meeting. A.HS 

12 8!1.d 13 March 1952 

On \he morning of la Milrch the Group met at M:1:.·. Spe,..,kM.D.Os office in the 

Pentar.on to prepare I\ renort. This reJlort was l'resented to General Canine on. th~ afternoon of tho 13th. 

wc:re: 

At 2 F.M. of la M.tach they B.s~embled in room B~O;i.s. Alts. MeMb"r11 !'resent 

Dr. Tompkins DJ'. Robertson 

Dr. Potter 

Dr. yon Houmimn 

nr. 0.airns 

M:r. How:;a.rd 

Di-. Shannon 

A paper (A.FSA Regul.Fttion R0...9) setting up the F.xecuUve GroUT' f'or SCAG 

wao distributed. 

In the discussi~n or b&aic resenrch the ~resent ot~tus of the rrojec\ on 

VHF compu~ing was ~roaen\ed briefly. 

On b~sic mathematic3l research considerable discussion was ~i•en to a suc~estion of Dr. Mina Reea tbPJ.t one contr~ct net as host for a summer oemin~r. 

The consensus was tlln.t thie should be ~one for tne sumner of 1952 if ~osoible. 

It WP-B ~elt by some thA.t this is not a su.bstitu'e for Tompkins• orip,in~l propot:ial1 but that a lon~ rAn~e project might grow out o:! it. The only feR.sible 

suggesUon for ways and means W"ll!I that Prof'. Onirns could direct it under hio 

present ONR contract. ·an.a tba.t S\n.nford University or the In"titute for 

Numeric3l Annlysis :furnish the facilitieo. 

On the 1111\in problem a toy ~re~~red bj Sch~idt Bnd being wor~ed by Roberto 

w111.s e:xbibi ted, Schmid\ re""ortP.d on the Round RO'JJUT pro~resn. n.nd Reimers G'flOke 

on the att~c~o on the de~th. 

Dr. Potter s~id tb:tt he ~d not seen evidence th~t the ~roblem of intercer.t h~d been ~dequ.~tol~ studied RS B whole. Mr. Friedm~n nuggested thR.t 

nr. Tordelll'\ should t~lk on 1this sub,1ect on the l~th. Some discnsdon A.rose 

ao to the re~e1bility of irnnrovements 81Wh ns snectrum recording Rnd P.utorn~tic 

~ndling. This lead to talk of the Russian intAr~ept net ~s disclosed b~ 

FIJ\SR, AJld its simil~rit7 to & simil~r FCC net. 

After n ahort re~ort on eng!neerin~ reeeArch urop.ress thP-re vae extensive 

discussion of the rotor eimul~tion ~ro~fl.RI !Uld D~RVISH. Mr. She'[l..~rd recomMendec 

that it ahOul.d go fo!'WA.'Z"it full blA.at. Dr. Eachus felt thr.tt the s:.rstem ohould be 

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proved first. There WP.S extensive discusRion aR to how much n:u-allel develo-nr.ent shoul~ go on, and what directionP different inv~stlr.~tionn could t~ke. 

Mr. HoWBrd ns~ed whP.ther AFSA held ~~de ~rrr etene to acouire ad~ition~l 

eom"Jutin~ f'ncil'i.tiee (such n.s the I'.B?~ fncUities of-the A. c. Niel11en Co.) 

in cnse or emerr,enc7. Hocause of AFSA•e limited nbility to expand he thoue,ht 

this was iesport~t. Mr. Friedman snid this wne a mA.tter for the Staff Planning 

Division. 

At 5al5 the meetin~ adjourned. 

At 9 o'clock on the l~th t~e group convened a.~1n for a study session. 

SC.AG members ~resen\ were: 

Dr. Engstrom Dr. von !reu.mann Mr. S-peakman C""'"ne A.t 

Dr. CR.trns Dr.· Tompkins lunch time. 

Dr .. :Potter Mr. Paet 

Mr. Howard Dr,. Shannon 

Dr. Robertson Mr. McP:horson 

At 10240 Dr. Tordella s:~o'lte on the in tercent problem .. 

He rerorted that at present thero a:re 7559 circuits knovn which could be 

covered by 2900 T\CB1 tions. We h..'ve 1150 -post tio11s now. It is estimn.ted thai 

'he1"8 are 17,600 circuits to cover, 13,500 of which ~.11.ve ap~reciable intelligence val"US. it would take an additional. ?.250 positions to cover the 5,900 undevelopc~ 1ntell1gence circuits, or B tot~l of 5,200 ~ositions. Dy ns~ing 

for only 901 coverar,e of the known circuits n.nd 30( coverage of thP. undeveloped 

circuits the need has been 'rimmed to ~,300 ~ositions. !he nrevioua re~uP.st 

for 10 931 ~ositions should be realiv.ed by June 1953. 

Dr. Pott3r felt tm.t a betterl 

The Group then A.djourned to give their reY'ort to General. Cnnine. 

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