~1:9JfMt605 - CIVILIAN E~PLOI:.IE~"'l' DOJRD 

~inut~11 of llP.Pting Ueld 

l5 NovemtP.r 1946, ~oO.~ '14 Hq, 

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'Lt.. CoJ~l Jama~. Lit-by t~. L=-c~or.rl 3A~~R H. Fri~r 

Cap'!~:_ .... ~ - c. "11shcoe 

~-~~~;~ ~. Cao~ba 

~?ti: ?r. :•,. Cettpbcll 

t.'t. i,.~ill• J. 1!.lwood 

Dr. ~ _ • i,Jll beck 

Ir. Alfred '!. liaee 

i. FL&TCHill CASE 

llr. Cmrl•• :a. Deetf'r 

!>r. A • Sinlro'Y 

Sir. John t. aJlllven 

Mr. F. B. Rovlett 

Kr. i~rk Bhaac!ea 

11 Fa G. li!'tla nd 

:.er. D. G1.-nn Starl Jn, Cb~ frmn 

Ur. Starlin annaunced tl\l!t h" h!ld written e rer;i:me or the netcher case fron ~he l:Pgl!\ni11ar, ane for?rardee it to ColonPl l!ayeaa, indicatintr th!'t it Yl&S the J!aerd's 

:t"'OCOl'J!l"DC' .. ~ion t.hAt c'hltrgoa of inef.tloienc::r ~ auete ir.ed. Colonel P..syr• has approved Use tint'!inge of the Board anc'! he1 directed that Xr. 11.etcber be- Beperated 1n 

eccoreana with ~er Depirtment and CivU ~•rv1ce r<'11Jlet~ona. Jr. Sterlin rec! the 

letter 1dl1ch bas Rone fOl"'MlrC t!':is date to Y.r. n•tcher ate ting the Board 18 dt-cision 

and eat.ton to b• taJren. i.:r. Stl'rlin indicated that L1r. Flflt.cher l'IUf't. anawr the 

irtter •'thin aeven daye ond 1r hJ~ ans•~r js conetderP.d inadequatP, hA will be ~eperatf!C 111 thin thirty days of the date h• receives the l~twr. In keeping "1th ":ar 

tepartmcnt reguleUone, !:r. lletcher hAft a right to !11• a grievance and have the f.{'C~l Qrtnanc• Cmn:itter !n·v.1tiRRttt t.he er.tip. Thh can l:.C"' done with:ln t'hirt7 deya 

nf t.ie ree•ipt of t~e l~ttPr chnr11nR hir. tdth 1n•fficien07. 

r.:r. St11rlin stated thRt h• hes rece!v~~ both a phone f'all end e h!tl~r Crom Mr'. 

Cl11ude L. tP.weon, Ch81rman of the VeteJ"llna PJ'ftterence Con~ittee, rrrr1can LPg1on, 

l-epart.:t•nt. or tbe L:htrict of Columbia who expmeaed intP.reat in the CBI~ 118 he !lad 

teen inforrred th!'t there bed bean unjust cihcrim1mt1on eOllhU!t fir. }lC'tcher in 

rating tb• efficie!lcy ot his work porfol"liilnce. A• • won! of t:txplanaticn, iiT. !tarlln 

poinwo out that :If :r. neatcher :fa ec-paratl'd for inpff!ciency' bf! ~111 lose his 

veteran• preference. r.::r. ~terlin talked Pith r.:r. Lawson about t.'t:tt case nnc! 1nc?iceted 

Lhat .ff:al ect:fon 1e etill pending. ¥r. Lar;son aeic he co\;h! ta'kP thP. attcr up •1th ~r. Ov~rbolt of the Civil s~rvicP Camr•paion if tbe final dcciE~on •erfl -~VPrae to 

::r • nPtChf"r • 

:.tr. Jil•tchPr, in an informal conversation t'tda date, 1ndiceted tbrt •• e citiz,.n 

under th~ Con~titution he hPB a right to bri1117. ttr ceee to court Rnd thPt 1n giving 

tc-et1n:oD1' he Y:o\Jld r.ot be bouni undul1 by eecurity Te-guletions. ~~r. Rot:lett sug• 

i::cated thftt tJ:e P.oRrd 'll'llke up its ~ind on ~hAt to co in cee~ he ooea v#olete security. 

HowevPr, ~. Rhoeaes Etrtce th8t he cid not think anythiq we dio t.•oula hold unlees 

thP int~nt to do Pvil A8'Jjnst thP Cnited ftetes "88 involved. As to how much claPsl• 

f1ed meterittl h• hed acCE'l!'S to, J:r. Leeter etatP.d that when :lllr. netchPr tuet came 

to AS•71 be hae accees to th• entire Legel f11oe but thet eSnce ~js return he has had 

"cce1111 to very little. 

eclassified and approved for release by 

SA on 04-17-2014 ursuantto E.O. 1352 
REF ID:A66605 

WJ©Jl#Jpff;JffUSJD#Jt 9 

'. CQ.f-: !1'J 1.£ Rl: .PCRT t~ JCJ; TITLE;S 

Co;i'ltte or thi1 report t.ere pa••ec.! nut 1t thit la1t ['oarc aceting fC)r review by 

Ute E~l"t Jr.•ft'l-t're. :.•r. st,.rlin atatcd th11t hP feele tbstt preeUcelly all of the 

•Pri.-a t i .. t Are lllllJ='este&! in t't"!R nport cen ~ toveircd unOe:r th~ Cfv.n ~-errlee 

Ua~book of CccupatJonal Groupe ai:d 5f'r1c1 of ClaHes, Feee11Jl h>e1tJon Cl11seif1cation 

t'bn. It. 11ee11a to Mm Umt if the Boere 1ants to brealc ciom l'Mn"" definite Job t.itlea 

•nd •"rl .. "'!• T'fth1n our on Agt!lC.f it r.:-ul4! .,.t' an P.lC.C.llent. idf':i ~t h<' dOt's not reel 

tbt!t Cl¥!\ Service would bP inter••t.o. The •H'1l'e or C!l118H!' dlich c1 .. 11 ~ll!rvice 

"l1"e11dy ~! ~ltl1'li!hed ere broad eJtou,;.h Ind Jet 4!et:lnitSw eou1b for ua to :include 

•11 potl\.Jona IKtrr in " prope:r nu11bcr ••riea. MT. ~trrlin 1nd1C"'t ... c: t.!;111\ one iae- .... 1ete ""n~!m in pN11enting tbia wgeostee change fa thet thr b.'tdc docurt"nt ueed 

~" the Bf~y ft!! ~SF Manual ''04 cat.rd Jul:y 19,S, -":ich 1• thtt 'ny f.prvlce forces 

.a.,tet"prr-ht.Jon of' Jol-s •• outlinM! t, CJyJl .2Prv.1ce. Ir we co :10t •eeept. •hBt. t.he7 ~ft ui·-~ t - ere in eans.-r of C1"it.1c!sJ.ng whftt •o::eont' 1n b1~h<1r authority N& cone. 

It woultf see:r. ttitb•r to nfflr to Civil service, l!Andbook of Cccn~Uona l Gro'li)B and 

:~d .. s e-r Cl••Hfl1 Federal to:sition end Cl111a1f!rs1.1on f.111n DE i>.c l'•Pi' doc1nr.ent 

ueea in t.lle et"Ucy nt.htti- thPn 'Si ~·•nuel 12C·4. 

ln ori:er to cxpbtn how enphesis con 1:-e ;>laced on t~ or 110r'k c!one bf the eeries 

in •f-ich a poeition is placed, Mr. Sterlin rcec th• descrfptSon of t.h£' llectrical 

Engineering Series and then the Cf"7ptognphy Seriea. l!e :lndicl!W'd ho1r s1Eilar t7Pf'e ~f prof~••fonal po~1t1one cnulo b• pUt under Electric~! ~n~1n~er1nP. Scri•e, P=-84C 

if thP C'l'pMBie ~eff on erutincC!'X'jng or under Cryptography ~er!eP 1 P.]Jl8 1 if the 

er1phad1 nre on C'!"Yptography or cryptanslysja. "'e could call tl'!tt po!it1on Electrical 

tnarine•r (Cryptolog!c}, Cryptolof?iC F.ng:lnecr or BOll!t" othPr appropriate title ee long ~r. the lf'J'fPs number rer.a1ns eccurate. This approeeb r.oulc r~~n defjnitlon and coor<!i• 

nation or job t1t.lf'1! 1'1th1n the "genc,y uneer existing series ct cleeeea :rethr.1" than 

reque1tir.1 nrw ecr!ea trcm th~ Civil S~rv'ce Ccc.1i'J11ion. l7. Starlin ae~IM'i the opinion 

ot the toard Hr-ber• reprding the fongo!ng ataunente. 

Ur. Rowlett. raised U:c po!nt •• to tthethE'r or not we •till Df!ed 1.hie. :.!r. Starlin 

repl.!f'd ~.et if ..... ere 1nt.en-eted in getti~ so~A rev!efld etea.dards to thoee U1Rt 

exist elreed1, 1t Ytould te aov:f.eable to s"t up •llY of theH sf-P'l •e ff<?Ue1t standeres 

of tte CitJo;:1ea1m for opPration under £chedule B. Captain ""'a1t.eoe .i11dJC11.tPd that hf. 

telinEd thr engh1Pcr1ne jobs ehoulr. COl"ft un<!el' eng!nPeriny, gNNp, ell of Thich come un~er the 8C(\ atarSe1 but· :.1

r. Stnrl1n nJnteined thnt if tl~• cr,rptolo(ic eepecte are 

erphudef-C U:f'n it ccw1lc 1'ell corre uricer thta Crypto,nphy Se:r1•a, P•1)18. Ceptein 

~ahcoe •'llted tt~t the conmittee fcel!nt 1Lli.B tbP.t •2nce •e h•v~ liv~d e litP of lies, 

1hy continue, ~nd we ahoulc nor. rrake an attempt to t1t thp ~obs tn their true catep,cr• 

1ee. In ed~it1on, he feels t.hat now t.e bave a chance 'he-rein u asn proPQrl.7 classify 

our peopl~ and en.ggested that the ~ob titlo of Cryptologic F~!1ne~r be 1et up. tr. 

S5nkov eajd thnt if there v.ere only one or t'~ ~xcept~on~ to the •Pries ~~ich have ~een lsyed do•r. ty thP. Co~ies!cn you could eeP.ily ree 'lfhpre 1t could be squ@ezea in 

chere it soulc fit but here there Pr~ a nua:ber or unusual F0£1t1on1 anc h• feels that 

w ehoulc! hev• thPPe joce ceteigorizPd unl'c:r onf' proper heaclng. :.·r. fio.-lett atated 

that it llf'PD>e th11t thert' r.rP rome gooe ergul1'ents for setting up a eeperate 1eriee rut 

ftdcfld it 1u11 otb,.r brAnch of goven:r.ent hee den .. whet be here l:.P.tin iaug1restre by the con:r.ii~tP.e, anrl, ff so, then wt-"Ftend to ~enef~t fro" their P.Xpcrience. Since 1t ~uuld 

biP in:poe1!~le to anHer t.,e aucst~on at th~e pE1rt.fc\1lcr cert!n.:;,, l~r. Rowlett suggePted 

thet 11e consider the adviaabil it;y or finding out T;het the Dureau of ~tancerde enc MCA 

bavP cone. CAptJiin ;'eehcce at.ated t.het. thnt is one of 1ihe proposed etuc:Uea chich the 

committf'ft baP yet to undertake. 
. , fiiR.i)}p6605 9 ~JiNffi'ii!WlbU~ U U~lb A 

p•. t:.tn'J.:c·.r ind ice tf'.u •• he t nP fs=lt. thd r.hcr. Civ11 ~eW'i..:t= e:lU , S1'' :r~te up cefini- . ,urns or t=Arieis thPy did not have in n:1ne the prcblerr.e wMch ex1Et hP.rfl. lie aeked 

~tiritft ~hy he felt that t~~ suggestec action of t~e co~Kl~l~e r~preeents a · • i ··t-t t ... 1.he people 'f;ho prepert:c ASJ Nnuel ~ 2C.4 enc a !eelint; thPt ·n-· are ~t.ting 

--i. of Hn« 1!! recorrmencin.r a cban.;e. ~~r. Sterlin ensttrt'd Ll'-,.t SpPc:laUste had 

·r:" 11 ~.,-prehcneive rtuc.iy enc hec theontically coneideree 111 problers involvtad 

--,n,.'!I' ~~Urh!ng tlie 1nfo1"1!'aticn cont.oinr<l. in manucl 1:'2~1.. :.~r. Sterlin atatec that i• cidn't. -.hh to mke a point of !t but rattier to bring it. up es e inetter to be con- .... ~ ior clrcusliO?l. 'ihPT'e 11'.&y tE> no cause for concern rith HF.ere? to it. 

-·~:. • i1·n.·rK' .. t<' :1r. Powlett'!! quro!Uon at to 'l!'het SCA hl.e c.onP, U.r. Sterlin 

;.rr_ ;rr 't o\.•r Cl•P•!f'ief:tSon enc •agp Atl!!in.iPt.nticn !t"ct~ on he' R list ot •11 job L.~JP~ 'n~ Pf'f:~PB of cfvJlilln po•jtJonr ~t !CA. #e flir 81 be could rt'CSll therr &rt" 

:itlt• th~t f'Ot'l'e•ponc to cxyptolo~ic •n~inr~r. 

in •nSPar to rr. Stsrlin'e GUr.rtion II to ~~1c~ he ~le ?rf'fer tc t~ cellef • ·~~tr1~1 •nvin•~T of Cryptolog1c rnhin~tr, :r. teett'r sa1~ th~t in v1P~ af the 

rt 1.hri. I'! ND PY 11Jre to rrt out of th!! A~("nCy the t.11.lr•, t.!l'ctrJ c~l Fn:.tineu•, 

·n lt- !"rtftl' t..M"ffcir.1 tut if II D'ftn CO'llO te bJr.-~d tror-- a !ob by e=iottit'r clectri- ~1 f'~inl"•r lr11a Pxper1encPc he woul~ rtther t:n cillee a Cryptoloi:tc t.n;:i!lccr. 

r~r. t.t'te-r tber. asked, 11F\lncerentally ,·bet ere the problers 'th:i e ;;aper i~ to 

rolve1" LT. ~jnkov steted ttet in hjs opjn~on it Y."ee ~ qu~etJon cf ~hethrr or not ~ sant to h!ve t~eee tiJtciel jo~e en~ typee and whcth~r it r1!1 le ~n ea~!er or ~Ort' convenSent ya: of h!nclin~ perEcr.nr! eppoi~tr.•nte ~it~in the •r.cnc;. Lr. ~in~ov 

.ei( thnt he felt that FincP ~e r£V£ sc nsny ~xccptfonAl ~ot~ 1t !e n~cee~ory t.het 

n set U? a nP,. cetf":cry for· tre convenience of All concFrned. 

Ur. ao~lett eu~gPetrrl that thF rorrc! conricer pP.rF~rspt: 3 of the r.~~orsncuro pre• 

parn. 'by :i.T'. TriedJt.en stetin~ v;bet. t.hr Eub•com111ittef> l!E:S eet Up to cio anC: inciiollltrc 

tlwt t• f•lt th~t the cor.~ftt~e report F.hculo inclUGP S CiSCUPl!on Of ~hat ~ee fOUDC 

•• ,~11 •• tht cor.clUEiO~S they hove crPtm. ID ot'Cer thct t~r r~ol• protlPm rtay re ~:iecueerc! .tnt,.ilJ~•ently, ~r. Ro\L'lett fPlt that ail 1h·tr'f art aor.n for t"~e cor.rdtt.ee 

to cx?lorc eJ:.oulc b co:"';>lrk'ci tefore ect Jon 1s ta~'"'' o~. the rutj•ct re;:>orl.. Captain 

ra•hcoe 1tated thnt 1~jg was t~e intent of the co~Jtittee 'tut th1t the delfy ....r.s cue ~o thr fact that cperatio?ll!l r.ct1v1tirs on the pert of th~ people on thP com~1ttee 

~~d occupi~c thefr tiwe. · 

tr. ~intov reieec tJ1e thour.ht of ·~~t, in the r.1ne of the Civil S•rvicP. Cov.tieeion, 

;e i~plrcFnt•d in the fact thet t~~s 'c,cncy js be1n~ ~rented tchedulP Send eeke-c:l if 

71,tf rHTU! tl".et t"'e AgC'ncy 1r Jn E Ppt=ici1111 CF.trr;ol'J" en~ neec!.e epcdal hr.ncling. :.:r. 

:-.ti rlin uu,._Pree t.het thir Civil SPrvic!' Cor.1?11i1:eion 'tl'oulc ,?rol:-etly rethPr tiendle it &.s 

~ ~pncjnl eate%ory in ttrt thPY recor,njze th~ ~~ecJelizPc ne.ture of the .. ork cone here ~o tre extent thFt they £re 1ilJinl to ~rP.~t ce ~c~edcle P. eutbor~ty. Cr. fullbeck 

11slred if Y.E' ;~et ~checule e cocld w~ E;Ct " jol1 titlP net lietrc jn Civil ~erv1ce :.~enuol enc tn D!lEYf'r to thl:.t, i.~r. ftF rlin EP:ld that tie ccull tut v:~ rr.uet hF-vt soir.e 

eeriee nurr.l:£r aesi ~Acl to ft • 

Ur. 1~eter £teted thet one cf thP eub•co~itt~e £fsignnPntr is to Snvfetii?'te ~ob 

t~tl~P snc r.e~e rccC>n'~encrt1one to a COD"·~ittP.P bP&c•c by Ur. fr~~d~en, ~ut t~~t it ie 

not cl~~r 1n hi~ win~ •hot ~r. l~iec~rn 'o~lc co ~ith the inlor~~tion. ~r. f\hoad~ ~xplained thet tr.ea report T:f!E prcpercd b:1 e 'f:orJring coit'l"ittf'e (of d:ich he ii·oe ch&irman) 

of thP CcoreiN!tiC"n Co1rmittee for ClvEdf1c&tjon snc •age 'criniatr1ttion of which .. lr. 

Fr!ecman N!e chnir~en. It nle fcrN:rcrd tc th~ letter comr.rittFe enf r.~prcv~d ty the in~:!vicurl ll'r.rh·re t.hP!'f'Of. ~:r. lil·CCCI, H:<''l ectJn·~ for rr. l~iF-Cl'llln ?to 'H!f' P.brOEd at 

U.t Hu, fornref'C: t?-a· rq~ort i.c tt:P CJ:tirrr-n cf trP C1v!Htn ! r ;lc.YT'tnt rccrci y.ho h£C: 

n1 1-'<>inlet t'"·r ~lo'\rr nt"".el ccr:!it"rr. r:r. 1-• .!".otclr r..rt!'ll"r fttiec: t!:rt l'E t.e unL.rrs\er.oe iti 

... r·. ~tr·rHn "io· ,;1• CC'i t: r: rF, .. ort c::i the r ... ·rr.<.:F. <..f ltf CivHiE?.r:: :r f>)C'y-rcnt !OF!"l 1or P.p• 

~rovs!. rec.i!icct!on er re,fectJo f'rtf'r if'c':lcEt<""c! th.t it. Sf-C'l""f the.t. if '\.hf' 
. ,,. 

c~ .... n S•n! C!~ I'.£ nc:bc>0l it: .toi n..· to le- U1e cecicir.;t !Ee:· or in -:• !e cr-e• tt en the co.,.-

a..i L1Pr ii;l,G'"l' cone.le-er CPl'Cript!ons cf .~ot rrr!es e• 1hPy txi&t In lf't.ct too~, 1.11d 

•rcF~t it~ T•Cor:FPnc;;rtscn of ~r. Ro~l•tt t~rt t~£ cc"iirittP~ !!OY ~o a~~ct with tte n•xt · --, !"il.,11 tr.. tnvteUr.ete 11hi:t otl-e-r 11~r-ncf,.e "l'P do1n,. :.·r. ftc-,lct.t 1,.;t hi• ru~,reetion 

";l' Jt.n: Gf & lr'Otfon srovln~ thrf t'1c- •tudy f!l' outlinea in JiHllt,liipb ), tt.m C1 in ori£• - "" •r.at1':~Ucn1 to thtt col'-.ltteP tr carrit'C! cut 1.y 1.~ flJ'b•ccr.-:-ft.t~c tnl e r•i10rt lt- r1ap 

t. 1.:-... Chn i1n lD'plcyzr ... nt Ice~, at 'J•hio1• Ur~ t>:~ pTf'Eer.t rr;ort -;.Jll i"' oon1Jderec •·1.. '"1i,. .,tbrr rc-co:-r .. ncct!ona ir.&<'.:e lj- t? c:Cl!iJ!l1l't•e. ':11" ...,ttr.ir \o'-4'@ r•ocd.f"c! by Lr. 

· · •~v ·~- ~tho\lt further ",if!cu•a~on, •• oerrt•d. 

arrnnr nstuu nPCRT 

er. ~tn T"lln 1tatt'd tht1. h• h£t e•nt IO'M'llrd IC.'T.(\ t1ae 8..-0 t<> tr .. f~f r • rfQ'Uel!t 

MDL •ptlbK:• t.r•ttn~ ha tn1Ututf'Ci. It "• returnee et!Unt? t.~ f. thP7 c0ticurr~d ~en• 

...--n, •Ju~ tt. .. cc.nelul'!or.r of the 11tuC:y h;t RPlree th:t. eoc!iUrn:;'! Snv.,•f.i.~Uon1 be 

.;..; .-. 1.nu ww.t.rme~. s.:r. ~t"rl~n tht"n rr-er. " J:BIPfT t:'tich h• J'("t:t1.•f"~t• tr lf'nt for.ere .... - ir..r tk' • t.hf' CSv!lian ls.ploy'""'nt Eor-re r£cor::--nes t~t JtA r.~et'r a ket!np: ?T'OF.r&I! 

,.nc: tht tt"• pro?,rn· 1:W' i: pprovP<:. It ansT•Trc t1'e quePtfo"!& ••lr~~ ty th" Sterr regarding 

Otr- orSg1ne'l recotr.l'rnceUcn 11nd it epecifi~lly :reCQl!'ll"ence t.hat. • tt"Ft pro1;ro111 l• 1n1t1a• 

ted with ::r•. Je11rt Corn eppointC'ci t: the ."ob of ';~11t Techn~r!an. rr. T cdtttt nggeetf'd 

t""•t tht' pl! .,a be l'.ucl:ee arounc to th,. Pot 1"C nietr.t.-rP ~o that thpY cen .·<'t e h-t.t.-.r unc~r­

•tanoin~ of what it Pey&. Ur. ~terlin eeio this woulc ~e cone. 

4. <;,UU1' JCr.':ofl. lftJ.S - Sl' F.ltV l~\.R~ 7F A I?llNG 

Irr. ~tl!rlin etatcc ttat at t'"'f' lelt ~re r.ePUn~ Colonrl 1:., ... hRc recori111Pneed 

:.t-tt eet11bl1f'ltr:f'nt of e PU.Pfll:rv:leory traSnir~ progrt>r snc: liu: ttkcc thl" i-·oere far any 

~u1g~!tione oT COlircnte r~eard1ni the qu~•tionnairt- r.hSch niP ctctrstut~c et tN-t 

tta.. Lr. SSn~ov felt t~..et the ~u~rtionnc~re aa St no~ ete~or •!11 acco~plleh the 

011cerNr7 p.1rposr• tut !'r. Ro•lPtt •2d ~t 1: .. hie! CQIP.e to the ccnclu111on thct ve e.re 

rw>t. .!OSDI t~ t;t'l very "'uch out of :lt tf'ceV1?f' b·o of t.':c queet.ion• ?Ut 1urrvir.or• in a 

lftd lidlt •1th tbr!r superv1scrt. l'.ft rum;e11t~d t~at t)9o ft>J"<.:!r~: bP chanrttd in euch a 

way SD to ~tP.nt a cit'eire on our pert to hcve the lood supPrvbor kno. wblt .,~ things 

he ~F ~one'. By sb.•tiyin; tltci trfckr, t•chn1c;uPF anr. procedur@a that ha'V• produc•~ rP• 

EUlte 1thich •re ~oc., y,e can 1JfP. then ee eJanpl•r of 1.hat tc UIP throu"!hcn:t th• Aj;ency • 

.Lr. t:ullbek eekf'd rhat. h21c happcnec to V1" csrcs ,.'11oh 1tere pr1"tei~ eor.r t.ir.e ago wl:icb 

lt1t~d t~~ ~••ponaib111ty of the superv1eora to th~ 1nclv1dual ~DC t~• 1nc1v1~ual to tbe 

•UUfJ'Ylror •~ Rf'!gftetec tt.et Ye rt"v1vti thoefl ca~a. Mr. F.owl•tt ecnt.1nuet U1t t he f•ele 

that • 1J01lt.jTt- epproe.c:h rlloi:.lc! hf> ure·c. Lr. S1n"J.ov •tetcd tPlr..t :!n hb L:h:Je1on they 

have co'!'ldrc:-rtc tte cu,.rt 1cm et ~at l•nf:\'h en<' heve egrPec! thltt. U:r ic:iea of hi'ving 1c11e 

Cfy!l s .. rvtc-e aut!'!ority cone fror.i outa1cie to give e i .. cture on y;hat con•Ututn .:cod ~nprrvie~C'!l t"OU}C ~ a H&te of ti'l"c. iJr • .!to\•lett ciho~Hd, 11tet.Sn?, thet propc-rly chosen 

oUte.fce repr•11f'ni1Uveoa are c!esirnl-lP. l!.r. Ro•·l•tt 1nd5catP.~ thet. T.9 lvrtv• a prolil•rr of 

whttthrr w •re 701ng to l.tf'1:ter thr 1.1uperviro17 poe!tior.t: or &re -0!11?. to etert thP ilrplenent.etlon of the pro5r1111 by teldnf! e eepf'nt F-t e th1r. llP feele thP.t 1! n eili1'1nete 

th• evil or 1Uk1nv out ef!~c!ency rrporte 1ncort"ect17, re eh1ll •liminate one 1pot of 1nt~ction er.el thet t'1b js Ju.rt a prol1e tc f!na out oth~r sorti •?Otr. 1!• eu.;g:eeted that 

tt.tt 'r.enc:r ~ et-nd enc hrve the Pff1cicncy :rat~n~ treatt>c :In e tnfn:l'li; f'OUrtt' with or ~ithout ~ut15o~ inetructjon. 

Ur. ftarlin stated t~~t the ices of ~ettin~ ansT-crs to the aurrt1onna1Tf" iF to evoic 

c ge:neral EUJMrvi•ory program and ccncPntrete on fpedfic itf'n:s l'cnUonec •• net'<!e. C.ol. 

f'rltT rug~ettf& tt&t a mc(!t1ng of all svpcrv1eors would 1tet :iorr. lnf orrr.eUon thla would 

thet=e qu•et!one. .C-r. S:ln':rov felt thPt !t Tc,1la br b£.rct solvce ly 'nrivicual epprorzch 

and tl-irt :tr thr Livieion Chief n>ulcl tcke er. nrployc-P crio_. 1ne point 010t hie EhortcOll'ings 

much !'r10l"tt could l-f' eccomplishtac then throu.~h r.izet1n:-:oa or pnpE>rE. 
,. 

At t.l~ia pofot. in tlie 11tietJng :t:r. S~ri1'ov irloicated that he felt that eriployee i:o~·pla1nt.s l!ttde to coun111'1lora should bt" diecuaee~ with the tiviaion Chl<'f& eo that 

they ra~ ~now shat the peoplP do not like etouL their work. ~r. Ro•l~tt ~plai~ 

Utet oo his n•ver receJved aey info:n:atton ea to ec1..ton taken on etfSeJency ratings 

.;:;r "1"1evcnce ht1rinit1 tut L'r. Sterlin Aid thfi'I. 1uch Cf&e reports ll'P eent to the 

personnel officer of the tlviafon wh.o 8houlc brier the Chirf en tbc ca:r 1f lt fa 

<"f)l'!!lidn-.-d 11tce&HJ'7. lt. sas th•?l reco~enc!Pc! that ell mti-r.:~Ci'- Cl1Ft'D end other 

~..-~ ,,r •f•'flll!r 1111tvre be addrePHd \o th .. t1Y1a1on ChJ.!or n;thrr tmn to the- pP.r-

~!WIDC"l C:.illter. Col. frler safo thrt ::-ost cH1r11 t.anelPd ty cwn~Pllor1 dt'£l "ith 

<-O!;lltlnt.., aoln.at r.aah rcome 11nc! caf•t....~fe, et~. UP tet'l• ""1flt. st.en w gE't through 

.. •th tJm :QUP•t1onne1re • •!ll not hF.-,e an..vthin~ upon wt-1c."i to b=re e 'tl"etmrg pro-

"1'1• ~~!• trying to 1mrrove a eupe?Ti~or tfichnJaally do~• not !~prcve hi• F"rPon• 

• "'i i+,7. Cf. Y.ull AC' 8~Ced lbAt he COU}d not ViSUll!l ilf' ID7 q1lClitl0"'11JTI! ... !Oh would 

mm he!~ in f e1earch end linelopr-ent. Llv1s1on '1r. certain aprcif!c problw-!'.. :.ir. 

leW'lf'tt. ftt,t.ed thAt 1f W coneuet 8 COU1"H jn effioier.cy rnt1n~1 It -=uld tencJ to 

•Unna'Pliill' Ue retina •nd he feel• it • tcod idflll. every now a~ ~hru to uk• attec:pte 

w kel'p etf1c1ency nUncs on a at.Qndard, ~.11se Kirtland ftiel• thr.t ontt thing "~ich 

•1 te eecompliehec cy a eupPrvieory tnining courH is to alt. .. ,. lhr ~noral neeat:Sve 

attitucie •hich ~zi•t• cm this po1t to'f.tlrd Civil s~rvic~ end wrueb of ite e~m1n2&trative 

proceaure, for until th:ls ~ e O"lercol!'.e n e~ll not tievc.- a gen•rel bettcrr•nt. in policy. 

In Ir. Rawlett•e opinion, one of th• btgg~•t supPrv!so1"1 probl•wa ie converaJon of 

militeir:; to hSgh•gnde civilian jot.a "hen ~r•ona 1c converted do not nccoHP.rily have 

~upel'YillOr.Y' know•how. 

A.ft.PT ext!ndeC dhCVBS10D it beCPl!'.e I ppPrcnt thlit 8 ;tl'neral pTOf:TSC Of llJPf>l"ViSO!'y 

inatroct!on ~a• not eenct1oncd b~· coet Eoere rne~bPra tut rat~•r it vcs felt that we 

Fhould look to ccopcretJon wjtbin thr group or Poerd we~b,rs and when aa 1nd1vioual 

f1nc:ie 1me ny or OVPrcom1ne a problP.r., he r-.eke H. l'no11n to tho rf'•t. Then, indi .. 

ented ::r. StP.rl:Sn, th• Boerd r~ele thr.t the general superv:hory pro;~111 11 1nedv1aeble. 

lt was 1t11ted opinion th&t a couree of supervisory tnii ning ~vld eca0o-:;;1Ush little. 

Lr. Kullt.ctf rai~ thPt auperT!sory training •houlc go on at all tJr.ee and if it re .. ~uh•ea training end supervision, every eupr·rvlsor ahoulc: train th• 1n<!1v1riual mder 

ht11 and 1.r7 to help him out. as 1:1ucb •• poseible. tr. Einkov aaid U'V't there ahould 

be a (Pllel'81 enrenese "th&t supe:rY.ieory problttma exist and w ehocld eo aonof'thing 

111h>ut it •nd, too. there 11hould be an. intf'rchen«e of 1nfonr.et1on ·~ protltaw:a. He 

then ,..cc~enced that the diecuasion ee contjnu~c at th~ next tor.rd IM'@tlnR. In spite 

of th~ f•n t'hat eev~rel Do£~ ll'CT'"bErs w:ere of the opinion Uv:t d11trUJCtion or a 

opPnlt01'7 qul'eticmnal'C'e ••¬ a good idea, :tt 'A& suggeetfd tt.et th• quf'stionneire 

tie TeTieft' ttnd bucked to P.OP.rd 111embPrs for reviftw end oomnente •• to shfothP.r the form 

ehoul~ or ehould not bP. dietributPd. 

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