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SECRET • • i.9 ,_,arch 19$4 

OUTLINE OF PmcE1LURE ADD 'IOPICS 

i'OR US 15\«l .REPRESENTATIVE 

I. Discussions with UK 'lS\-D Representatives -.~•'"""'t~lllUC F < • 

l.. Allow tor two dqs discussions - !ha f.-0atie11 U :μm'lailQe 

beiore the talks with the French TSWG nominee. 

2ci The topics that should be covered in these discussions 

include a · 

a. General egreemant an tba tuncticns to be pertormed. 

b. Agreaman t on the manner ot doal:lng vi th the French 

on thosa matters9 

o o Exchange of inf'01"111lJ.tion on tl>.e Prenoh COMSEXl 

organisation a 

II.. Points to be explained to the French lb'Jpresentative1 

1.o Reason for unde~1Sf!Jt.:~h!i~3ram1 

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Easentially- an ,aXf''l'.!aiQD ot the Aide-f.Temoireo Our 

raalir.ation or the need for secure corimnmiaationa 

and of the g1"eat e.ftort neoess1117 to achieve this, 

our experience with NA'.10 OO?·fSID, the belief that 

soma members have not made the a.f'f ort neoassary plua 

such requests ror assistance as those of Italy and 

Belgium (which were addressed to flAit>) all show a 

need :£or action on a comroon problem. 

2. Reaecn tor the TS'ill phases - ... d ,.,. .... ~-....... ~ 

Essentially an expansion of the Aide•Memire. 'Ihe 

subject is so tecmical that tbe talks will proauoa 

nothing tmless the representatives are competent., The 

subject is so sensitive that lack o:t confidence :in 

the security or any representative will grea.tl;r inhibit 

cc:mversation. These matters are dirticult to work out 

at a ver:1 high govemmental level. 'lbe prior wrk of 

the TS\'Kl and the mutual con£!dcmce ot the axperienoed 

members minim:.i.ze these dif.t'iaul ties. 

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Declassified and approved for release by NSA on 04-18-2014 pursuant to E. 0. 1352B 
3. ~Al!t ... ~ ~CO?.,_~_-=o-t~~o=.-~~-!~e!. ='~1=-~·. 

a. If possible, the US and UI &;o repre&U:""\ iali"IM 

should avoid :Interpretation or th.a Aids !:ooi~o 

or elq>l11.tnattona bOJ'Ol'ld its t.em3~ just:lt)ing this 

m the gl'0\1111 ot l;heir O'liD teclmio•l :lr.c0i7if,t'.:T.~O, 

the l:lraited tmotion ot th.1.a i'St'G phsco 8lal tho 

impoaatbUitJ" ot oara.tul.J.y outl.!..,ing tho scope of 

the talks :In advsnoe. 

b. It oan be sllid t"methGr tht\t the Aide·r~"'-" ma'c"c 

the pri!lary J>Ul'PO'I• an agr99'1811t on a Strin~"~ oroUl) 

ll&iK>r-andm. ~ oatl!ne ot tho 'Pl"Ol>OO~ r.;;;..1;;;;.:1(,.\.:t 

in para h ot tho Aide.-Mamoira ar..d tha rei'ermoos t-o 

cryptographic and tra.nsr.d.aaioa praotioee in per& 2 

show the genoral aoopa. 

IIL ~lanatiais ~ Points Which the French 118,y' &d.eas .......,--~ w.~..:.::r:..a..=-z.• z=··=- -~ .• .;_1.:-:.. - ..... ..:;.. ,.. , ... , 4 -~- r.a ":c.-.; ..... ...,. 

l. l!,m~o1!~0£.,}PR~-~~- ~~o-~_f~~a_!/~ 

Their position cm the Standing Group and their 

aophistioatian in thia field require their partici• 

pation :In order to be aure the plon ia aomd and to 

maximise tts etteotivmess. 

2. Aasuranoes a -· ........ 

1 

It J,ll'eseed on the "•hortcomings" and •aaaUZW100" sentences, 

the US and UI repreaentativea aan 111\Y that thq ind:loate 

a daa:l.re that nme ot the Standing Group powers ~1ould be 1n 

'the position of adviainR other NA'ro mmbers to do aomth:t.ng 

they are not doing th8111Belwa. It aan bo said tm.'"ther that 

the languag9 used does not mean that ea.oh of the threo 

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countries mwst prove they are not rollowin! condEF.Ded p&"aotioes. 

On the other band, 1t does not say thq mq not do so. Presuruabq this matter will be something the teahnical reprosont.atives will 

work out. 

3. COMINTt , ..... 

If asked whether the teclmical representatives intmd to diacuaa 

intelligenae or intell:!genae results, tho US and UK repreamtatiws should rep~ ~t the.r aaaumo not. 

TOP SfiQRET 
U th1& iiJ raised• an;r m.91''31" sbonld bo cc:i.;ifined to 

t.he neaa1sary !Epliaatio~a ot th9 jo:lnt Aids.fta:101n. 

'l111a shows agre.:.:.;~;it aa tho ~.etcnoo ~ the probl~, 

the need tor Frcncl1 aas1Btanco. and tho pointa covar.:d 

b1 tbs outline of t:i1e Sta&lding Orouv 33w\'&.'ldllit1 fnoh'C!f!•& 

a ri~f v,1·- ".\ (B'aot1cea (atnoo tbi• would bo 

tal>led early . eohni~l talks ao a us-o;. egr-=:~·1 

•iraft). It neoese:).ry, the or!ginal ldGii :dght bo a;;.ti•ibutcd 

to SP.DAR,. £U8£-0r 

S. !!~.!!~J'""~P. !Jf_ ~~. P-!:="'A.<:·~· .. ~~~-... ~.!l~~!f.-~!:i.~ _c~p~ent1 

Unless informed that the Frenoh have mmtioned this request '3ul~:fng the ambassadorial approeoh, the us cd IJI raprescta·· 

tives should indiaato that tho t1I doa:1 not kno-11 or it. !ha 

amrwer ill.that it did not :lnapire tbe pr~, but did ro .. :lntoroe the US opinion that amno mutual. prc;gram '-CIO desirable. 

Prasumob:q there is no reason "1J' the J'rench should not bring 

this up at the teolmical talks it thq eo desire. 

IV. Sele_o\!~--~ ... fr'!.1!!!- ~~pi~-~ Da\e-!?~t~ (Prettu'abl7 not more than t&""'Je) 

1. Teahnical Criteria& (Mote Em1bits "A" and •e•) I ~ .. ...__...,...i;a..-1 .. •'i""-

a. 1he delegates should be the ~st aperl.erioed end 

teahi1icalq co11P3tent co1'11l1ftl11ioatiOD8 aocurit¥ mperte 

available. 

b. They aho,1ld have a broad knowlq11 ot tho anti?'~ t1e1dJ 

::ihould be oapable ot disouesing the techr..loo.l aoomtJ;t,-

aepeota at oryptograph1o syatms. 

o. Thq should have prestige within tho ~oh tm3EC 

organization ao that their ccnolmims b'w.n. tho 

discuaeicna w.111 oar.ry weight, 

do ThGJ' should be of the caliber of Black, Jrna\\1 

and Byraud. 

•• 1hq ahonld be ot tho stature oE thG other dela&ates. 

(Austin and Raven believe it would be helpfUl to 

ttive their names ear~ :fn this dieauss1on.) 

t. Should not be 1ntelligenao spooialista mlaas they are 

also C<14SSI experts. 

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• TOP-~~SfCRET 2. s.IJCl!l'!!i: cr1\!l'...!!_ 

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PL 86-36/50 USC 3605 

•• Thq ahonld be olenrad mcl wuahed tor "7 t.ho 

SSPJ.. 

b. U. standards ot olearanae lho\1ld be GOl!!Pll'able t.o 

those applied to tha tJS dalcgatee (neell not bava 

equiwlmt olevanaea) • 

.3. Quali.t1oatiai11 ot US CS.l.91et.M. • caaz • 1 _ - &AL&4:a9• 

a. Both are TIS oaam apeolaltta ...ct are aonneoted I I 'lhey baw the h1ghatwt regulal' Civil 

Serrl.ae greda and man7 79ars n:por:Lenae 1n the 

OOMSPXl field. thq are ful.ly oonvarsant vi th all 

th9 teomiaal seaur:I.~ aspeo'bs at HATO and OS 

oryptographia 878tem. 

b. Tl197 have the highest. oleerallce status, iDolud!ng 

OOSMlD clearame. '1bq haw the standard 'LOP Slm.Rl1' 

olearanoa :In ta~ ot the '15\-D standards and alao 

a oztyptograph1o olearanoe. 

b. Action on l'J'enoh nom1natl.on111 

It is not ant1oipated that the 1JS v.l1l be able to pl"OV1de 

further ~ormat1on on t.he Prenoh nCllidneeo1 so tbat tlle 

prinaiJiA Nlisnoe tor teohn:toal competence and aeour1'fi7 

18 placed on tho !SlrD repreaentAltina. However, the· nams 

ot the J'Nnoh nonine~ together with the reoo1CNoClldatime ot 

tha US and Ult repreaent3t1vea,, should be pa.used pl"OJllpt17 

w the CHI tor such oheaking aa ia possible. 

Vo Pb.y!1o'9z..!!~~?-.,tz ~c! -~~~. ~1:?n&!~~ ,.to be ~de-~ ~"!...~~. 

1. Location of the teobn1ca1 talk111 ------......... ~-~: I :t: J~¥'":9W 

Paris is p.reterable as a canveni&too to the Fronoh who 

will have to make rapid preparat:looa ~ar the d:l.scuacim11. 

London is our second choice. 

2. !J!!.t':!.!L.R..la~! ,!.<!1"--~Ll~~~~~ega~B!!, 1 

Les Inval:l.des, the Palaia de Cha1llot (!IATO Headquarters), 

and SSJ'A Headquart.era b8llro bem auggeatadJand ve ahollld 

fOP StfiET 
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be ready to otfe 

TO~SftRET the us or me Embassies. SlIAPI is 

mdesirable. 'l'he meeting plaoe should be as secure 

as possible. It should also be cannnient. 

3. ~difh~~@"~;~z:etar1a1i tar the ta~-an~.~ 

Presumably the Frenah are the ones to handle this• but 

the '1'SWG representatives muat be oartain the arrangemnta 

are secure. 

4. Inte!'..Preterr 

U English is not to be spoken~ all the delegat.ee, ti. 

US representatives desire an interpreter. It eec111'9 

&rrangementa tor this cannot be made with tha Frenoh, NBA 

or GO~ must be approachecl on thiao 

S. Oontaots after the technical talks& 

'!he 1!19Ci!l'ity of the group papers and Oontacta betvaen th8 

COMS:OO organization attar the talkB should be amphaaiBado 

If' reasonab1e, it should be suggested that later contacts 

be 11mda through SIDAN subject to different but equally 

secure arrangements by the technical delegates. 

6. !£ta ot technical talke 1 

\~h~"l it appears that the French will coma up with 

acceptable nominees, the time of the tallfa should be 

broached. ihe US and UX delegates will be ready by 

l April, but will need at least 8 days noticeo 

Extended dela7 is lllldesirable. Reasons tor speed ino1ude (a) the broad scope 0£ the progrem, (b) the 

tact that the problems of the present sta~e ot the 

proeram do not W91'l'ant long delq,, and (o) the danger 

{indicated by prior requests for action) that other 

NA'IO members might initiate a different and less 

ei'i'ectiw programo 

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PL 86-36/50 USC 3605 

The tollo-.dng points tu1r..ariao ~5 intmT.t>t1on on .tho l'r\:noh 

o:>MSEC organieation an1.l•bla pn tm above dat~. . tbit 1ouroaa aro 

2 meseages tranl JOD. 10 October and 12 Hovaber. the 

t;IA. report ol the ti.rat cmvaraation with cSo Voajol1 and aas:-.mta 

by Austin and Haven en 17 March l9SJ. 9de Womatim 111\1' not be 

8COUi"&teJ WfT add1tiCl'la1 data vill be holptule 

l. 'l'h• Ool!iileaion Interu1n1atc:r1el de Ohittrd 11 the top group~ but 1t&S *poweia and ro1&~rc11-a·v1Uii'n,...,...t11itFVUwnsnt 81'8 

not knotuh Its chai!"m!S.!l was thought to be a u. S!?fial.a• but 

ha my have been roplaoad b3' a K. MmlBi who hiis •lib position in the Ministr,y of J.lational Detmsa. ta 11£11baro inaluda 

representatives of the SIBJR and the Ministries of lfational 

nt.tense, Foreign Attaira and ~orseas Fl'anca md perhaps eom 

others. Col. Black 1e tha SIECI mmber end wo have bean told ~but doubt} tfiit tlia SIU:E 18 supposed to guard the •eourit:r 

or Frfillloh oipher syatana. 

2. The Cont~ole de Chlfi'res is an administrativo body tor 

the Ool!il1liss1onJ 1fl8 'haaa 111 'a R.'" Muoller • • °llW9if. ....... ~ 

I 

3. Tho 5011.a-Comit& ~!'!fhi$!! :la a P'OUl\I Pl'Obabl.y UDder 

th-a CornmiBa!{'l\ which all~ cori.aams iteelt primarily nth 

oryptographio security. Ito ~esident i8 M. Ollier_, an ex•Ptt 

man, now in the SDEO& mder M. Boure1oot. lti" itoe--pre3idct 

ilJ Col. Black. The rnGJJbers include Ol'fPtograpbio roprosentntivea 

.fr<rn thO Arrq, :iav liild A1r Force and a non-specialiet Npl'eHntativa 

fran the Quai d •oraay. 

4. A subcommittee wor-k3 an ~cations seour1£ 'Which prasuma~ -18 not ·the eama · ae -the 's()W,--.:ijQiii'fA 'ci;.vtogniP ique. 

It.a r.;:y.;ibera inoluda A.maud tor tho A.rl;ry'1 &;:and tor tha Navy and 

Rataeli tor the Ail' Force. 

TOME&RET 
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Tm persons luted below are ooneidered bT the os teofmioal 

representativea to be teobn101Uy ocepetent on tho aubjeo"tll to 

bo oorisidered at the third stre of the approaoh to the fnmoh. 

All uould mow Aust1n by n1Ln!9 I 

Tho only n81119 bhq could supply as a nafdnM to be no:J.ded •• 

Ve:ryt?n le ~ro~. 

l, Col, Black of StECBJ hc:td ot rrenoh C<1tIN! 

orr.anisa'fion uDie other dntieBJ know Raven. 

2. Arnaud works uader Uarohand :1n the Miniatl'y 

of Jl!t'anse1 an Ariif1' repres111tative1 know Austin. 

3. !Y;r!~ uorlca for the Uav,r. 

4e ~li believed to work for tm Air ForoeJ JUiY' know 

Austin. -J\ .,. .. 

S.. Mueller heads the Oontrole de Chittrea. 

6. Le Marahand ie new head of' CODliJilmioations sta!f' 

orgenizaUoo iii the Minietr.r of De.tensej he replaoea 

Veryon le Croix. 
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TOfe1Sfftl ., 

19 Maroh 1954 

OUTLIHB :Ft8 US 'l'SWO RBPRBSBH'rATIVB 

I. D1aousaiona with UK l'eil!8.!!J\!!~~~er 

1. Allcw tor two daya d1aous•1ona before aeelng the 

French representative. In London, 1t poaa1ble. 

2. Points to be· covered inolude1 as:reemant en the 

f'unct1ona to be pertormod; working arrangementsJ and exchange ot 1nto1'm&t~on on the Prenoh CCllSBO 

organ1zat1ona. 

II. ~o1nts to be •!Pl~~ned to the French re21't•entat1yo: 

1. Reason tor undertaking the program 1e easentiall7 an 

expansion ot the points made in the A1de-Memo1re. 

2. Reason tor the TSWQ phase ia that set out in the AideMemoire, that 1a the need tor (a) oompetent and seou,re technical representatives and (b) adequate pb7s1oal seour1t7 tor technical oonveraationa. 

3. Purpose and Scope ot the Technical Talka1 

a. The A1de-Memo1re aeta the purpose. (The TSWO raproaentativea oanno~ interpret 

any amb1gu1t1es.) 

b. The deaor1pt1on ot the proposed Stand1ng Oroup memorandum and the •tatemant 1n 

para 2 ot the A1de•Memo1re 1nd1oatee the 

aoope. 

III. .Bxplanf!.t1cn or points which .. t1:1!! French ma:y ra1ae 1 

1. Need tor French ptrt1c1~at1on: Reaaon tor approaching the French t!rst B the r position on the Standing Group and their prestige 1n this t1eld. 

2. Aesurancea. 'l'here 1• no intention either to nqu1re oa.06 to'prove to the others his compliance with the 

dratt memorandum or to torb1d arQ"one rrom ottering such proot. 

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CCJ4INT. The TSWG representatives/assume that the 

US ana UK technical repreaentativea do not intend 

to diaouaa intelligence. 

Extent or US-UK Collaboration on this ~. 

A8 sfiown expifoit1y--=-oy""tlie&1-a-e-r.rel:zioo.te ana=mcludes 

a draft list or bad praotioea. 

French Renue~_t_ o~ E_q~'9~nt ~ran -~~- JJS . Thia is 

nolr Riiown"'t0--tne=u1t (unless .. mentioned eo the UK 

Ambassador or by tho French TSWG man) and d.1d not 

inspire this program - although it did reinforce 

the US opinion that aome mut~l effort waa 

desirable. 

~h;:~j ion ot_ F~~~~legate~ __ {i>_~!'!~lLE.2.1!...~~~---o/!!~ 

1. 

2. 

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4. 

Technically the French delegates should be the most 

competent and exper1encedoomnunioa.t1ons security 

experts available, ot th.e ._c_i:libe:r or Black, Arnaud 

and Eyraud and the US and-u~ delegates. 

They should have security clearances comparable to 

those or the US and UK delegates and should be 

cleared for these disoussiona. 

The US delegates are CQJJSEC opecialiata, are 

conneoted[ IQ.n,d hold the highest regular 

US cavil Service grade. They have the high.eat US 

security clearances, :including clearance ror COSMIC, 

us TOP SECRET and us ceyptographic. 

The names of the French nominees together with the 

US and UK t"eCol'llOendat1one should' be pa~sed promptly 

to the CWO tor any possible checking on their 

qual1f1cat1ona. 

,t!}YS1D<tf:l Secur1t;£,J!,r:t!L-9E!1~-~ ~:r;~~~l1~.!.~ .. ~~e-~.ll .r.~Wo .1.acuas1onsz ------·-~ 

l. Location or technical talks - Paris preferred; London next. 

2. Meeting place for technical delegates - as secure and 

convenient as possible. Les Inval1dea, the Palaia 

de Cha1llot, or SSl'A headquartero are preferred. The US Embassy should be available, but is not 

pref'erred. 
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3. Arrangements tor a secretariat tor the meetings 

and tor the secure handling or the paperwork - presumabl.7 the French should do this. 

4. Interpreter desired bJ' US delegates, it Bngliah is 

not spoken b7 all. 

5. Contacts atter the teobnioal talk8 ahould be put on 

aeoure basis. 

6 J>ate aet tor technical talka should allow at least 

8 da7s notice to the US delegates, but subJeot to 

that lim1tat1on, should ba aa early aa possible. 
Executi'Ve agent for 

USCIB. 

Liaison assistance 

Badia communications 

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1 • Brief US 1. Brief US 1. Discuss with Ul l. TSWG discussions.1· 11. Discuss with GCHQ l. Technicol 

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Ambassador. Ambal!ls&dor. TSWG representa- and UK technical d111cuseions. 

2. Arrange for 

TSWG phase. 

:Jo .Arranp tor 

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US techn1'18l 

representa• 

tives. 

(Polyaoidea I (Pol7zoiclea) 

tive. · 2. Arrange for representatives. 

technical 

discuasions. 

(Elliott) (.Elliott) 

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(.lqtin, RaYen) l (Austin, Reven) 

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US Ad Hoc • 

Comm and C~G - • 6 • • - • - • • • - • • • • - • • • - -·- - - • • • • • • • - - ~ - • - • • - • - - • • - ~ • • - - • • 

TM .. per ArJ!l sao - per r•· 

request trom quest from USCIBFSI 

USCIBF.s to ?lS and State to G·2 

~ • per request Army SSO - per request 

trom USCIBES to from USCIBES and State 

NSA. to G-2 

quest from State to G-2 .State to G-2 G-2 

State to Go2 ~ · · ,. • 

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from USCIBm to 

BSA 

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Army S§O • per reques 

from USCIBES to • 

Arg SSO ... B7 NSA P6r 

request :f"rom U~CIBES 

to G·2 
~· Pouch translli.ttal 

;. All ar:range•nta 

for TSWG and 

Technical diacuaa• 

ions rith ll"ench. 

'• Trawl authorit7 

and arranpaenta 

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DIPLOMATIC 

APPROACH 

Londcm I Parl1 

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Arg §SO - B7 stats: l 15AfsuSLo - B7 stat~ KIT sso - B7 State 

per request from per request from a per request troa 

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tacilitiea request from 

usc:mr.s to ISA 

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Arn =o . per request fro• 

USCIBES and state 

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TSWG PHA E TE CR I! CA~ -..D......i._..~--0-N-. 

Lon4op Paris Lopd9D fma 

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§l§LO • pe\ request Am §SO • per 

tram USCIBES to request from 

NSJ. USCIB!S and state 

to G-2 

trO!l NSA 

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from ISA request frM 

USCIBES to G·2