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September 25, 1968

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SUBJECT: The Interagency Ad Hoc Working Group on Security

Classification Policy's Venture into Earth-Sensing Policy

Problem:

To advise you of the nature of the Interagency Ad Hoc Working

Group on Security Classifidation Policy, its venture into earth-sensing

security policy, and the DOD position with regard to that action.

Background:.

On June 20, Mr. William Foster, Director ACDA, wrote to Mr.

Clifford recommending that an interagency working group be set up

to work on a more uniform security classification policy (see Tab A).

(It is our understanding that Mr. Foster claims that information passed

to him during disarmament negotiations varies widely in its security

classification, depending on the agency involved. He has cited lasers,

radars, and earth-sensors as examples.) Mr. Clifford replied that he

supported the idea and spelled out his concept of the group's functions

(see Tab B). He named Mr. J. J. Liebling as the DOD representative.

The group has had two meetings: the first was organizational and

the second considered interagency security problems in connection with

laser technology. The third meeting, scheduled for today, was to consider earth-sensors, with the main presentation by Mr. Ed Riley a of

the National Academy of Sciences (see Tab C). This situation came to

my attention on Monday, September 23, when we were called by Mr.

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We viewed this meeting with great concern for reasons which I

certainly do not need to detail to you. On Tuesday, September 24,

411101.111111111. met with Mr. Richard Durham, ACDA's representative

on the group, to ask why ACDA was bringing up this matter in this

forum. Mr. Durham (SI, TIC) was unable to give us any policy

problems. He simply felt the "issue needed ventilation." He was

strongly hostile to suggestions that any valid problems could be

handled more properly elsewhere.

We returned to the Pentagon and re-grouped

in ASD/A, since the OSD repres , .

Liebling (TK), works for Mr. Horwitz. This was particularly important

since Mr. Liebling was on leave. immipmmisigmekassisted us in

preparing a briefing and a DOD position paper for Mr. Horwitz's review.

Current Status:

We met with Mr. Horwitz this morning and found him very well

informed in the general area of earth-sensing policy. He listened to

a short briefing and approved the DOD policy statement (see Tab D).

He directed Mr. Liebling to read this statement to the group and to

scrupulously avoid any discussion of earth-sensing.

Other departments have also reacted strongly in opposition to this

discussion. Dr. Steininger, specially invited guest, has refused to

attend; Mr. Tidwell, also specially invited, will not attend (the DCI will

respond to the invitation by stating that this is the wrong place for earthsensing security discussions). Mr. Keeney and Mr. Jack Shaw (Executive Secretary of the NSAM 156 Ad Hoc Committee) have expressed themselves similarly.

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Dear Clark:

I am convinced that a need exists among the executive agencies

and departments having classification authority for an interagency

working group on security classification policy. It is my understanding

that members of your staff who have responsibility in the security classification policy field agree that an interagency working group is needed.

To this end, my Classification Officer, Mr. Richard L. Durham, has

arranged with members of your staff and representatives from NASA

and AEC to meet together on a classified basis on June 26, 1968, at

10 a.m. in my conference room.

I personally plan to meet briefly with the group, and I will state at

that time my complete support for their efforts to improve interagency

cooperative efforts in this field. Too often, in my opinion, decisions to

classify new technology have not been communicated to other agencies

which are also involved in the same technology. Too, a narrow, restrictive policy on the release of classified information between executive

branch agencies could well result in waste and duplication of research

efforts.

I am certain you share my concern and hope you will support my

efforts to develop a permanent working group from this ad hoc meeting.

I am also sending similar letters to Chairman Seaborg and Mr. Webb.

Sincerely,

William C. Foster

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Secretary of Defense

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29 June 1968

Honorable William C. Foster

Director, United States Arms Control

and Disarmament Agency

Washington, D. C. 20451

Dear Bill:

I have your letter of Zane 20 proposing the establishment of a permanent interagency working group on security classification policy.

Pursuant to the recommendation of members of my staff who are

directly concerned with matters of security classification policy, I

am glad to add my support to the proposal set forth in your letter.

In so doing, I understand that the basic purpose of the group would

be, to provide a continuing means for assuring that the security

classification policies of the respective agencies are in harmony with

one another, and to assure that in the implementation of those policies

by the respective agencies, the necessary intercommunication and exchange of classified information and of declassification actions in areas

of mutual interest would occur on a continuing and timely basis.

I have asked Mr. Joseph J. Liebling, Director for Security Policy,

Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Administration), to

represent me at the meeting to be held in your conference room on

June 26. He will be accompanied by Mr. George MacClain, Director,

and Mr. C. Donald Garrett, Deputy Director, respectively, of the

Security Classification Management Division of his office, who will

continue to represent the Department of Defense in the work of the

sub-group from and after its formation.

Thank you for bringing this matter to my attention.

Cordially yours,

Clark

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Welcome - The Honorable William C. Pastor, Director

U.S. Arms Control and insarmaeonc Agency

Britain - Remota Sensing of the Earth Ehvironsont.

Mr. Reward Risloy, Secrotary, Division of

Earth Sciences, National Acadumr of Scionces.

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As indicated in Secretary Clifford's letter of June 29 to Mr.

William Foster, the DOD recognizes the need for, and has endorsed

the formation of, an interagency working group to review security classification policies of mutual interest. We must point out, however, that

U.S. earth-sensing activities are controlled by two security systems,

national in origin, interagency in scope, and unusually well-defined in

conceptual and operational detail. Both of these systems are managed

by the Director of Central Intelligence. We have not considered these

systems to fall within the functions, scope, or competence of this ad hoc

committee.

Within the present statutory framework, as well as within derivative

coordinating bodies, there is full provision for governmental agencies to

present specific problems arising from their earth-sensing programs.

These mechanisms are used regularly and are, in our belief, the proper

forum for any presentations on the subject..

It is the DOD position, therefore, that the discussion of earth-sensing

activities, viewed in a security context, is inappropriate for this group.

We cannot participate in any such discussions even in the most general

terms. We recognize that ACDA could well have an unresolved problem

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ACDA be offered representation on the Earth Resources Survey Program

Review Committee. I am sure that such arrangements could be made at

this time through General Smart.

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