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COMIREX Response to Cline Letter. 

Dr. McLucas was advised that the COMIREX paper responding to

the Cline letter did not deal with the problem of what responsiveness

was required of the NRO. Additionally, costs figures from the NRO

were desired, the intended use of which was not understood. It was

recommended that unless the paper reflected the true NRO capabilities,

we should not coordinate nor participate further in the preparation of

the letter. This presented a problem to Dr. McLucas without a solution.

He asked what we wished him to do. Dr. Naka advised him that he would

talk to Mr. Duckett and insure thtIIII.lrLASS , and only rough

order of magnitude of dollars were included in the report.

FLAB.

Dr. Mc Lucas was notified that FLAB has tentatively scheduled him

on October 9 from 0915-1015 to present an Overview of the photographic

the operational inventory. Dr. McLucas was indefinite as to whether he

could make this date. A letter from the FLAB to Dr. McLucas identifying

an announcement of reconnaissance capabilities in the Aviation Weekly

magazine will also be discussed at the meeting.

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Dr. Rake is coordinating a date for the Land Panel Meeting with

Dr. Martin. This meeting was requested by Mr. Crowley to update the

Pane to try to impress the Panel with the cooperation

and coordination existing between the East and West Coast organisations.

Dr. McLucas would like to have a meeting, with Mr. Crowley at an

early date to discuallial

NRO Personnel at the SSSC. 

Dr. Naka advised Dr. McLucas that he had discussed the proposed

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for the job and one selected without regard to service. Dr. McLucas

also stated that he has not yet agreed with the departure of Captain Geiger.

'but will review the proposal for utilisation of Captain Geiger when it is

made available by the Navy. Dr. Mc Lucas indicated that the best way for

the Navy to replace Captain Geiger may be by assigning Navy personnel

to one of the SPO's for three years before assignment to the NRO Staff.

Briefing to the Secretary of State. 

Dr. McLucas concurred that a joint presentation by himself, Dr. Naka,

and the Staff on the overall capabilities of the NRP should be given to the

Secretary of State. Dr. Naka indicated that Admiral Bowen would determine a date for a DOD presentation of the photo/SIGINT capabilities.

Streamlined Management Procedures.

Dr. Seamans asked Dr. McLucas to determine how good the "SKONK"

Works assuagement concept really was. Dr. McLucas has asked Rand to

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Dr. McLucas has proposed that r a group comprised

of Colonefait his designated repres.enta ve, and a representative

from SS and/or SP. This small group will review the gement techniques and resources applied to e purpose

of this study is to better understand w s *rent, what is similar,

and the effects of each. Dr. McLucas agreed that he should contact

Generals Brown and Phillips prior to the study getting underway.

U-2/Middle-East/NPIC Display. 

Dr. Mc Lucas would like to visit NPIC for the purpose of better

understanding the imaging efforts during the cease-fire. He would like

Admiral Gayler to accompany him and he concurred in his presentation of

an autographed picture to Mr. Lundahl.

18. Photo Mix Study. 

Captain Geiger reported that the first draft of the photo mix study

requested by Dr. McLucas will be available by 9 October.
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Dr. Martin's comments should be obtained from Colonel Sherman

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Reduction in Personnel.

Dr. McLucas does not want the Staff to consider a reduction in the

NRO at this time. He does want a review and update of the manpower

study conducted approximately a year ago. Dr. Naka reminded Dr. McLaacas

that if a general manpower reduction occurs, it should be done in phase

with the Air Force reduction to avoid SAFSP/SAMSO irritation.

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Dr. Seamans would like to have a discussion on the methods, procedures, and techniques employed by

activities.

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Commander of AFSC.

Dr. Mc Lucas feels that he should have a discussion with General

Brown at which time be will discuss Air Force incentive contracting

procedures and possible application of the "John Martin" approach.

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24. Air Vehicles versus Satellite Capabilities. 

Dr. Mc Lucas would like to task a knowledgeable group to make a

determination of those intelligence needs presently being Satisfied by

peripheral sensor platforms which could be satisfied by satellites. He

feels that this is a very pressing problem and the organisation to do such

a study has thus far escaped him. He asked Captain Geiger and Dr. Naka

to recommend resolutions to this problem. However, Dr. Mc Lucas agreed

with Dr. Naka that this problem was 99th on his list, because his principal

concern was the health of the NRO.

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