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MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARIAT RECORD 

SUBJECT: Proceedings of Air Force MOL Policy Committee Meeting 65-1, 

25 February 1965 

1. The full committee met at 0830. Because of the requirement for 

Generals Schriever and Ferguson to depart early, the briefing on Source 

Selection Board results was presented first, followed by the other 

items, in order. 

2. Source Selection Board (SSB) Results. 

The briefing team on this subject consisted of General Maxwell, 

SSB Chairman, and Colonel Hedrick, SSD, accompanied by Colonel Nudenberg, 

Hq AFSC, and Colonel Carter, SAF-SL. The briefing covered source selection procedures, results, and recommendations for selection of contractors 

to perform preliminary design studies on the MOL Laboratory Vehicle. In 

accordance with DDR&E guidance, three contractors were recommended for 

selection. In ensuing discussion, and based on the close relative final 

standing of the third and fourth ranked competing companies, the Committee 

agreed that the first four ranked companies should be awarded study contracts. Secretary Zuckert then directed that the four winners, i.e., 

Boeing, Douglas, General Electric, and Lockheed companies, be contracted 

with to perform the Laboratory Vehicle preliminary design studies. He 

further directed that the source selection briefing and the decision to 

select four contractors be presented to DDR&E. 

At the conclusion of this portion of the meeting, Dr. McMillan, 

General Schriever and Lieutenant General Ferguson left, as did the 

Source Selection briefing team. Colonel Carter remained in his 

capacity as Deputy, SAF-SL. General Ritland remained, representing 

General Schriever. General Evans briefed the remainder of the 

meeting starting with Administration. 

3. Committee Administration. 

The recommended policies and procedures for the conduct of Committee 

business presented by General Evans were adapted from procedures used by 

the Gemini Program Planning Board. In discussion on this item, Secretary 

Zuckert stated his preference that the procedures for minutes, reports, 

etc., follow those presently used by the DSMG. 

On the subject of designation of alternates, Dr. Flax stated that 

either he or Dr. McMillan should be present at each meeting. Secretary 

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Zuckert and Mr. Marks declined to nominate alternates. General McConnell 

nominated the Vice Chief of Staff as his alternate. It was left to the 

Executive Secretary to obtain names of designated alternates from 

Generals Schriever and Ferguson. 

Concerning scheduling of future meetings, Secretary Zuckert indicated 

that meetings should be called only when problems could be identified which 

required consideration by the full Committee, and that meetings devoted to 

informational-type items only were not desired. 

4. MOL Program Security Policy. 

Based on the fact that Dr. McMillan was absent and not able to participate, Secretary Zuckert requested that only a brief summary on security 

policy be presented. General Evans summarized, stating that the program 

would be conducted under DOD Directive 5200.13 and AFR 205-23, as prescribed by SAFUS on 19 February 1965. 

5. MOL Program Status Report. 

General Evans outlined to the Committee the various actions which were 

underway to achieve the revised objectives specified in the DDR&E memorandum 

of 4 January 1965. The presentation was concluded with a description of the 

interaction of events visually depicted by a PERT-type diagram and a chart 

summarizing the actions completed to date. 

Subsequent to the presentation, General Ritland made a strong plea to 

Secretary Zuckert for assistance in our working relations with the NASA. 

He emphasized that in his opinion NASA was not bound by the same security 

constraints as the DOD and might use the Congressional hearings as a forum 

for public debates on the virtues of a NASA space station to accomplish DOD 

experiments. He stated that General Schriever had been encouraging NASA 

to accomplish DOD research and technology objectives in its space flights 

but that NASA was tending to include not only these objectives but satisfaction of DOD system and operational objectives as well. He further stated 

that Mr. Grey of NASA, with whom he was having meetings and discussions, was 

forecasting the availability of 6 SATURN I-B's and 6 SATURN C-V's from a 

production line on a non-interference basis with the basic APOLLO program. 

NASA is planning to take representatives of the PSAC to visit various of 

their facilities in the next few weeks and would undoubtedly convey to them 

this kind of information. General Ritland stated a need for a paper to 

Mr. Webb, possibly from Mr. McNamara, which would enjoin them to the constraints of the security presently imposed upon the DOD with respect to the 

MOL program. 

Secretary Zuckert agreed and requested an appropriate letter on the 

subject be prepared for Dr. McMillan to send to the Secretary of Defense. 

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6. MOL Scientific Advisory Committee. 

Because of Dr. McMillan's absence and the lack of time, this agenda 

item was not discussed. 

7. The meeting adjourned at 1030. 

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L. VGANS 

Brigadier General, USAF 

Special Assistant for MOL 

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MINUTES OF MEETING 65-1 

AIR FORCE MOL POLICY COMMITTEE 

THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 25, 1965 

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Committee: 

Hon. Eugene M. Zuckert, Secretary of the Air Force, Chairman 

General John P. McConnell, Chief of Staff, USAF 

Dr. Brockway McMillan, Under Secretary of the Air Force 

General B. A. Schriever, Commander, AFSC 

*Maj. General 0. J. Ritland, Dep. Commander for Space, AFSC 

Hon. Alexander H. Flax, Asst. Secretary of the Air Force (R&D) 

Hon. Leonard Marks, Jr., Asst. Secretary of the Air Force (FM) 

Lt. General James Ferguson, DCS/R&D 

Secretariat: 

Brig. General Harry L. Evans, SAF-SL, Executive Secretary 

Colonel David L. Carter, SAF-SL 

Major D. S. Floyd, SAF-SL 

Proceedings: 

1. The meeting was called to order at 0830 by the Chairman. 

Because of other commitments requiring various members to leave 

early, the order of discussion of agenda items was revised, as indicated below. 

2. The results of source selection of contractors to perform Lab 

Vehicle design studies was presented by General Maxwell, SSB 

Chairman, and Colonel Hedrick (SSD), attended by Colonel Nudenberg, 

Hq AFSC, and Colonel Carter. Three contractors were recommended 

for award of study contracts. In view of the close ranking of the third 

and fourth contractor in the final standings of the competitive evaluation, the Committee agreed that four rather than three contractors 

should be awarded study contracts. 

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3. General Evans presented recommendations concerning administration policies and procedures to be used in conduct of Committee 

business. 

a. Secretary Zuckert stated the preference that Committee 

administration follow that used by the Designated Systems Management 

Group. He further stated as Committee policy that meetings should 

be called only for action-type agenda items; meetings for presentation 

of status information only should be avoided. 

b. The Committee agreed that members other than SecAF, 

SAFUS, and SAFRD could nominate alternates to attend Committee 

meetings, but that either SAFUS or SAFRD would have to be present 

to conduct business. 

4. General Evans briefly reviewed the security policies established by SAFUS for conduct of the MOL Program. These procedures 

require conduct of the program under the provisions of DOD Directive 

5200.13 and AFR 205-23. 

5. General Evans provided a brief report outlining activities 

being conducted to meet the 15 May date for submission of a MOL 

Program package to DDR&E. Concerning NASA relationship to the 

program, General Ritland stated that security constraints on DOD 

activities were placing the Air Force at a disadvantage vis-a-vis NASA 

in public and Congressional discussions concerning assignment of 

management responsibilities and operational requirements of a space 

station program. He strongly recommended that the imbalance be 

corrected, possibly through a letter on the subject from the Secretary 

of Defense to the Administrator, NASA. The Committee agreed in 

the need for a more balanced presentation of space station issues to 

Congress and the public, based on observance of security constraints 

by both agencies. 

The Secretary of the Air Force Directed: 

That a letter be prepared to the Chief of Staff, USAF, authorizing 

award of Lab Vehicle design study contracts to the Boeing, Douglas, 

General Electric and Lockheed companies. 

Action: SAF-SL 

That the source selection results be presented to DDR&E. 

Action: SAF-SL 

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That a letter be prepared for SAFUS signature to the Secretary 

of Defense stating a requirement to enjoin NASA to observe DOD 

security constraints in public and Congressional presentations concerning the space station program. 

Action: SAF-SL 

The meeting was adjourned at 1030. 

gliMVAN 

Brigadier General, USAF 

Special Assistant for MOL 

Executive Secretary 

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