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DIRECTOR OF DEFENSE RESEARCH AND ENGINEERING 

WASHINGTON. D. D. 20301 

JUN 190. 

MEMOR..4..NDUM. FOR THE DEPUTY SECRETARY OF DEFENSE 

SUBJECT: DOD/NASA Joint Program Review 

You wW„Tepa.11.at the meeting on June 22nd that you and Mr. Webb 

discussed the budgetary problems confronting NASA and agreed to 

fully explore ways of reducing expenditures through joint action. 

Since then two •rneetin,gs with NASA have occurred which bear on 

this agreement. 

On „Tune 25th, the MOL Program Office Met with NASA to provide 

additional MOL technical details and plans. This information is 

being used in the NASA studies of various )ways of using MOL hardware in their Post•Apollo Prograrn Mr. Mathews, NASA. Deputy 

Associate Administrator, repeatedly emphasized during this meeting that NASA objectives involved sustained and continuous manned 

operation in spate with emphasis on a large space station and rendez-.* 

vous and resupply.: The questions posed by NASA on MOL related to 

the maximum' duration in space that might.be possible with existing 

MOL hardware for both "all-up". and rendezvous missions. 

It is important to note that the questions were not directed toward 

4etermining if MOL hardware could be :used to do specific or presently defined NASA experiments. Detailed Air Force technical 

briefings were provided during this meeting and agreements made 

to follow up with more data at a later time to meet NASA's needs. 

Prior to the meeting it was determined by DOD representatives that 

AAP contractors had been told specifically by Mr. Webb that NASA 

can continue support of AAP at a $3. 75 billion funding level in FY 

190. This is somewhat at variance with our understanding of 

recent comments made by Mr. Webb tows. . Congressional action 

to date places the NASA FY 1969 budget at the $4 billion level 

prior to the $6 billion expendity.re cuts. 

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On the 26th of June, Mr. Palley,. ODDR&E, met with Mr. Frutkin, 

NASA, on the general question of how to proceed with a joint review 

of related DOD and NASA activities, with a view toward saving money. 

Previously DOD had suggested a detailed list of all'related activity 

and prdvided a Suitable format which would identify comparable items 

in the DOD and NASA budgets. It was agred that this format or pro-

, gram matrix would be followed. However, at NASA's suggestion, it 

was agreed that we would first attempt to identify specific items which 

appear to hold the greatest potential for savings through joint action 

for early detailed review. The manned space flight area, MQL-AAP, 

appears to have the greatest potential for long term savings. Other 

items include joint management of the NASA and DOD range operations 

at MILA and ETR, possible reductions in a recovery fleet for AAPMOL, economies in launch vehicles, weather satellites and geodesy. 

The aeronautics area also appears to require examination. Specific • 

statenielit'eto'ser"ve as guides to a joint review are being prepared on 

each item. Individuals in DOD and NASA will be identified to manage 

such reviews. An attempt will be made to develop this approach to the 

point, where the detailed reviews can be implemented by 15 July. 

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