#### In re IOWA PREMIUM SERVICE CO., INC., Debtor. IOWA PREMIUM SERVICE CO., INC., Appellee, v. FIRST NATIONAL BANK OF ST. LOUIS, ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI, Appellant.

No. 81-2060.

United States Court of Appeals, Eighth Circuit.

Submitted March 10, 1982.

Decided May 5, 1982.

*1221W. D. Brittin, Jr., F. L. Burnette, II, Nyemaster, Goode, McLaughlin, Emery & O’Brien, P. C., Des Moines, Iowa, for appellant First Nat. Bank in St. Louis.

Thomas L. Flynn, Wimer, Hudson, Flynn & Neugent, P. C., Des Moines, Iowa, for appellee Iowa Premium Service Co., Inc.

Before ROSS, Circuit Judge, FLOYD R. GIBSON, Senior Circuit Judge, and McMILLIAN, Circuit Judge.

ROSS, Circuit Judge.

First National Bank of St. Louis (Bank) appeals from an order of the United States Bankruptcy Court, Southern District of Iowa, 12 B.R. 597, which denied its motion to amend a prior order directing the return of funds received by the Bank because such funds constituted a preference under the Bankruptcy Code. We affirm.

On November 13, 1979, the Bank loaned Iowa Premium Service Co., Inc. (IPSCO) $400,000 by promissory note, with interest payable at the rate of *llA*percent over prime per annum to date of maturity. The note provided that the interest was payable on a monthly basis. Monthly interest payments were made on May 8, June 12, and July 15, which represented interest due in April, May, and June of 1980. IPSCO filed a voluntary petition in bankruptcy on July 31, 1980.

Both parties have stipulated that the elements of a preferential transfer pursuant to section 547(b) are present. However, the Bank argues that an exception set out in section 547(c)(2) should apply to the interest payments in question. The exception provides that:

> (c) The trustee may not avoid under this section a transfer—

> ******

> (2) to the extent that such transfer was—

> (A) in payment of a debt incurred in the ordinary course of business or financial affairs of the debtor and the transferee;

> (B) made not later than 45 days after such debt was incurred;

> (C) made in the ordinary course of business or financial affairs of the debtor and the transferee; and

> (D) made according to ordinary business terms;

The parties agree that elements A, C and D are present. Thus, the sole issue is whether the transfer was made not later than 45 days after the debt was incurred as is required by section 547(c)(2)(B). More simply, whether the debt for interest was incurred on November 13, 1979, when the promissory note was executed, or monthly as each payment came due. We find that the debt was incurred on November 13, 1979, when the note was executed; thus, the payments were preferential transfers not insulated by the section 547(cX2) exception.

Congress has not defined when a debt is incurred. However, case law holds that a debt is “incurred” on the date upon which the debtor first becomes legally bound to pay. See *Barash*v. *Public Finance Corp.,*658 F.2d 504 (7th Cir. 1981); *In re McCormick,*5 B.R. 726 (Bkrtcy.N.D.Ohio 1980); *In re Bowen,*3 B.R. 617 (Bkrtcy.E.D.Tenn.1980). We hold that Congress intended the phrase here involved to relate only to the date the debtor originally undertook the obligation to pay the debt in question; that is, the date the promissory note was signed. This is supported by Congress’ selection of the 45-day time period; Congress treated as nonpreferential an ordinary-course payment of trade credit in the first 15 days of the month following the month in which the legal obligation to pay arose.

Section 547(c)(2) was not intended to cover the kind of transaction before this court. IPSCO had received the full consideration and was obligated to the Bank for the full amount for much more than 45 days before the interest payments were *1222made. The section 547(c)(2) exception extends only to situations where payment is made within 45 days after the debtor first becomes legally bound to pay. *Barash v. Public Finance Corp., supra,*658 F.2d at 512.

We conclude that the interest payments were made more than 45 days after the debt was incurred and are voidable preferences under section 547. For this reason, we affirm the order of the Bankruptcy Court directing the return of the interest payments.

FLOYD R. GIBSON, Senior Circuit Judge,

dissenting.

I believe that the interest payments at issue were made not later than 45 days after the debt was incurred, and therefore dissent.

I agree with the majority that the issue is when a debt is incurred, and further agree that “a debt is incurred on the date upon which the obligor first becomes legally bound to pay.” P. 1221, *ante,*and cases cited therein. Our disagreement is in determining when the obligor (IPSCO) first became legally bound to pay. While the majority holds that IPSCO became obligated to pay the interest when the note was executed, I would hold that IPSCO was not obligated to pay the interest until the interest accrued each day.1 I reach my conclusion because the execution of the note merely created a *contingent*obligation on IPSCO’s part to pay interest, and I believe section 547(c)(2)(B) only applies to fixed obligations.

To understand the contingent nature of the interest payments, one must realize that the principal and interest payments were distinct obligations. When IPSCO executed the note, it obligated itself to pay the principal, but interest payments were contingent on IPSCO’s retaining the use of the money loaned to it by the Bank. If IPSCO paid the principal, it would *not*have been legally bound to make the interest payments at issue.

IPSCO was in a position like that of a customer of an electric utility. The customer agrees to pay for whatever electricity it uses, but the debt to the utility is not incurred until the resource is consumed. A customer does not incur a debt when it makes the original deal with the utility. Likewise, IPSCO agreed to pay interest for the use it made of money, but the debt was not incurred until IPSCO actually used the money. This analogy is found in a case relied on by the majority at p. 1221, *ante. Barash v. Public Finance Corp.,*658 F.2d 504, 509 (7th Cir. 1981), *quoting*4 Collier ¶ 547.38. *See also In re Ken Gardner Ford Sales, Inc.,*10 B.R. 632, 647 (Bkrtcy.E.D.Tenn.1981). Therefore, IPSCO was not legally bound to pay the interest debt until each day’s interest accrued. The situation would be different if IPSCO agreed to pay a sum certain in interest regardless of when the principal was paid.

I do not believe that section 547(c)(2)(B) refers to the incurrence of a contingent obligation. The section refers to situations where a “debt” is incurred. Generally, the word “debt” refers to fixed obligations, while “liability” can refer to contingent obligations which can ripen into a debt. 26 C.J.S. *Debt*at 5-6 (1956). *See also*Black’s Law Dictionary 363, 823 (rev. 5th ed. 1979); *Public Market Co. v. City of Portland,*171 Or. 522, 130 P.2d 624, 643 (1942); *McClintock & Robertson v. Cottle County,*127 S.W.2d 319, 322 (Tex.Civ.App.1939); *State Budget Commission v. Lebus,*244 Ky. 700, 51 S.W.2d 965, 969 (Ct.App.1932).

Because we are dealing with a matter of statutory construction, the usual meaning of “debt” is not necessarily controlling. However, I believe that reading “debt” in the usual way is consistent with the legislative history and policies behind the Act. The primary purpose of the section 547(c)(2) exception “is to leave undisturbed normal financial relations, because it does not detract from the general policy of the prefer*1223ence section to discourage unusual action by either the debtor or his creditors during the debtor’s slide into bankruptcy.” *Barash,*658 F.2d at 510, *citing*H.R.Rep.No. 95-595, 95th Cong., 1st Sess. 373 (1977), *reprinted in*1978 U.S.Code Cong. & Ad.News 5963, 6329; S.Rep.No. 95-989, 95th Cong., 2d Sess. 88 (1978), *reprinted in*1978 U.S.Code Cong. & Ad.News 5787, 5874. Reading section 547(c)(2)(B) to consider the debt at issue as incurred when the interest accrued would leave normal financial relations undisturbed. I agree with Judge Kelley’s analysis in *Ken Gardner*that “[t]he policy of protecting payments in the ordinary course of an ongoing business relationship easily extends to these interest payments.” 10 B.R. at 648.

There is support for the view that section 547(c)(2)(B) was not meant to include situations like the one involved here. The principal source of support is a law review article by a member of the committee staff that drafted the legislation. The author stated that the exception in section 547(c)(2) was meant to apply to short-term credit transactions. *Barash,*658 F.2d at 511, *citing*Levin, *An Introduction to the Trustee’s Avoiding Powers,*53 Am.Bankr.L.J. 173 (1979). However, I am not persuaded by this article because the statute is not couched in terms of short-term credit transactions or receipt of new value by the debt- or in the 45-day period. *See Ken Gardner,*10 B.R. at 647.

The cases relied on by the majority are consistent with my reading of section 547(c)(2)(B). All three cases, *Barash, In re McCormick,*5 B.R. 726 (Bkrtcy.N.D.Ohio 1980), *In re Bowen,*3 B.R. 617 (Bkrtcy.E.D.Tenn.1980), dealt with installment payments which were mixed principal-and-interest payments. Under my reading of the statute, the courts might have segregated the portion of the payments that were interest. Their failure to do so does not suggest a rejection of my analysis. In *Bar-ash,*the court did not state whether prepayment would have affected the obligation to pay interest. Therefore it is not clear whether the interest portion of the payments was a contingent obligation. Furthermore, the courts in all three cases seemed to consider only the date of execution or the due date as possible times at which the debt was incurred; they did not consider the date of accrual as I have suggested. Finally, both *Barash*and *McCormick*rely on *Bowen.*The judge who decided *Bowen*recently decided *Ken Gardner,*in which he distinguished the installment payments in *Bowen.*The court found that installment payments merely reflected the nature of the loan as an extension of credit, and payments that were entirely interest payments were not “incurred” until they accrued. 10 B.R. at 646-47.

Because of the usual meaning of the words in the statute, the policies behind the statute, the lack of precedent to the contrary, and the support of the *Ken Gardner*case, I would hold that the debt was incurred for purposes of section 547(c)(2)(B) when the interest accrued on each day, and thus the payment thereof in the usual course of business within 45 days of accrual date of the interest did not constitute a preference.

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. I am not arguing that the due date is relevant, as the majority suggests, p. 1221, *ante.*The issue is whether the debt was incurred when the note was executed or when the interest accrued.