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-----Forwarded by Melanie King/RTP/USEPA/US on 02/15/2010 09:47PM ----- To: Melanie King/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA, Rick Counihan <RCounihan@enernoc.com>, "don@blueskyenviro.com" <don@blueskyenviro.com>
From: Ken Schisler <kschisler@enernoc.com>
Date: 01/08/2010 10:52AM Subject: RE: Followup to today's meeting

Yes. These are the NERC standards I was referring to.

It appears that NERC uses the term "Balancing Authority and Transmission Operator" in its standards to mean the entity responsible for planning and operating the electrical transmission system throughout North America. These terms would capture not only the RTO/ISOs, which are the Balancing Authorities and Transmission Operators for the regions they serve, but would also include all of the regions that are not in an RTO/ISO.

I would need to verify if ERCOT (Texas) is subject to the NERC standards, but I think they are. ERCOT is treated differently sometimes in federal regulation because the electric system is entirely within Texas and is not electrically connected to the rest of the nation. Because the system is entirely intrastate, it is generally governed under state law. Alaska and Hawaii are in a similar situation. I see no reason why NERC standards would not apply in these regions, but I still need to check.

Kenneth D. Schisler - Senior Director, Regulatory Affairs

EnerNOC, Inc. | 101 Federal Street, Suite 1100 | Boston, MA 02110

o: 410.745.8104 | m: 410.725.1462 kschisler@enernoc.com | www.enernoc.com

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-----Original Message----- From: King.Melanie@epamail.epa.gov [mailto:King.Melanie@epamail.epa.gov] Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:23 AM To: Rick Counihan; Ken Schisler; don@blueskyenviro.com Subject: RE: Followup to today's meeting

Are these the reliability standards you were talking about? http://www.nerc.com/page.php?cid=2|20

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Melanie King Energy Strategies Group Sector Policies and Programs Division Office of Air Quality Planning and Standards U.S. Environmental Protection Agency

Mail Code D243-01 RTP, NC 27711

Phone: (919) 541-2469 Fax: (919) 541-5450 king.melanie@epa.gov

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All,

Thank you very much for taking the time to listen to our concerns and share your thoughts. I very much appreciate it.

Rick Counihan - Vice President Regulatory Affairs-Western Region EnerNOC, Inc. | 500 Howard Street, Suite 400 | San Francisco, CA 94105
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-----Original Message----- From: don@blueskyenviro.com [mailto:don@blueskyenviro.com] Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 6:12 PM To: Craig.Jeneva@epamail.epa.gov Cc: brenner.rob@epamail.epa.gov; tsirigotis.peter@epamail.epa.gov; king.melanie@epamail.epa.gov; horowitz.michael@epamail.epa.gov;

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wayland.robertj@epamail.epa.gov; don@blueskyenviro.com; Rick Counihan Subject: Re: Followup to today's meeting

Rick and I would like to thank all of you today for taking time to meet with us and to discuss emergency demand response. Attached is the
comment letter that I filed to the docket that details how each state has changed its definition of emergency.

The OH definition would apply to all three emergency DR programs:

Conditions where a regional transmission organization notifies electric distributors than an emergency exists or may occur and it is necessary to implement emergency procedures for voluntary load curtailments by customers within Ohio, in response to unusually low frequency, equipment overload, capacity or energy deficiency, unacceptable voltage levels, or other emergency conditions leading to a potential electrical blackout.

I look forward to discussing this further with you on Friday.

Don

> All,

> > Here is everyone's contact information:

> > Don DiCristofaro > President, Blue Sky Environmental > don@blueskyenviro.com
> 617-834-8408

> > Rick Counihan > Vice President, Regulatory Affairs
> EnerNOC > rcounihan@enernoc.com > 415-343-9504 (w) > 415-517-1861 (m)

> > EPA:

> > Rob Brenner > Director, Office of Policy Analysis and Review (OPAR) > brenner.rob@epa.gov
> 202-564-1677

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> > Jenny Craig
> OPAR > craig.jeneva@epa.gov
> 202-564-1674

> > Peter Tsirigotis > Office of Air Quality Planning and Standards (OAQPS) Division > Director, Sector Policies and Programs tsirigotis.peter@epa.gov
> 919-541-9411

> > Bob Wayland > OAQPS > Sector Policies and Programs > Leader, Energy Strategies Group > wayland.robertj@epa.gov
> 919-541-1045

> > Melanie King > OAQPS > Sector Policies and Programs > Energy Strategies Group > king.melanie@epa.gov
> 919-541-2469

> > Michael Horowitz
> Office of General Counsel > horowitz.michael@epa.gov
> 202-564-5583

>

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