#### BRYAN NEWKIRK AND OTHERS *against*ENOCH HAWES.

A testator bequeathed slaves to A during her life, and at her decease, to the lawful heirs of her body, if any such there be, and if none, to return to the lawful heirs of my body,” it was *Held*that, on the death of A, without having had a child, the limitation over was valid.

*Held*further, that the children of the testator living at his death, and the personal representatives of such as died after him, were the proper parties to sue.

Cause removed from the Court of Equity of New Hanover county.

Abraham Newkirk, by his will, executed in 1823, bequeathed as follows, that is to say, I also lend unto my daughter, Penny Newkirk, during her natural life, the following ne-groes, viz: Dolly and Dinah, and Dinah’s children, viz., John, Bill, Caesar, Guilford, Peyton and Sam, also one bed and furniture, and at her decease, to the lawful heirs of her body, if any such there be, and if none, to return to the lawful heirs of my body, and to be equally divided amongst them.”

*266The testator died in the same year, 1823, and his will was duly admitted to probate.

Penny Newkirlc, the legatee above named, intermarried with the defendant, Enoch Hawes, some time in the year 1S24, and the executor delivered to him all the slaves mentioned in the will. She died in the year 1859, without leaving' any child or children, or the descendants of such, and without ever having had a child bora alive. The bill is filed by the surviving children of Abraham Newkirk, who were alive at the death of the testator, and the representatives of such others as were then alive, but are now dead, (excepting Penny, the legatee,) to recover the said slaves, and their'Increase, amounting, in number, to about twenty-three.

The defendant demurred to the bill generally j for the want of equity. There was a joinder in demurrer, and a removal of the cause to this Court.

*W. A.*Wright, for the plaintiffs.

*Person, Strange*and *Balter,*for the defendant.

PtíARSON, C. J.

Is the limitation over to the heirs of the body of the testator valid, or is it too remote? It is not necessary, in order to decide this question, to say whether Penny Newkirk took an estate, for life, with a limitation to the heirs of her body *as purchasers*at her decease, or whether she took the entire estate under the rule in Shelly’s case defeasi-ble, at her decease, to make room for the limitation over; for in either view, as she never had a child, the property will pass under the limitation over, provided it be not too remote.

We think the limitation over is valid, because it is so limited, that if it takes effect at all, it must take effeet at her death. The ownership of the property must, at the time, be absolutely determined one way or the other, consequently, it was not “tied up” longer than the law allows. The very learned and able argument, filed by *Mr. Wright,*relieves the Court from the necessit of elaborating the subject. Wo adopt his reasoning, to show that the time is fixed, and the limitation over *267depends upon her having heirs of her body at her decease : “The force of the words *at her*decease, pervades the whole clause, and manifestly qualifies both of the limitations. *To the lawful heirs of her*body, *if any such there be.*When ? Clearly, *at her decease ;*and if none such there be. When ?' Equally clearly *at her*decease.” That is, “To the lawful heirs of her body, if any such there be, at her decease; and if none, to return to the lawful heirs of my body.”

Of the many authorities cited by him, *Baker*v. Pender, 5 Jones’ Rep. 351, is enough to dispose of the question. It is there said, “We are satisfied, that the words, *at her*decease, fix the happening of that event, as the time at which the limitation over must take effect, if it. takes effect at all, and consequently, that, it is not too remove. At, is a more precise word of time than after, and it is settled, that *after*her death, is sufficient to restrict the limitation:”

We, at first, inclined to the opinion that the objection, for misjoinder of parties, in respect to the personal representatives of the four sons, who died after the testator, was well taken, but upon reflection, we are satisfied, that is untenable, and that at the death of the testator, all his children had such an interest, under the limitation over, as would devolve upon their personal representatives. A contingent remainder, or any such contingent interest in land, is transmissible by descent, and in personalty, devolves upon the personal representative *when the person is*certain, and the uncertainty rests upon some collateral event. Where the *person is uncertain,*there cannot, as a matter of course, be a descent or devolution; see Fearne; Roper on Leg. 402; 1 Jarman on Wills, 177. The question is narrowed to this: Were the persons to the limitation over is given, certain ? *Nemo est heresvwentis**But as the limitation is to the heirs of the body of the testator, he was dead when it took effect, and so the maxim has no application. Ileirs of the body, include children and the issue or descendants of any child who is dead; *Thompson*v. Mitchell, 4 Jones’ Rep. 441. In our case, as all of the children were living at the death of the testator; they were the *268'heirs of his body, and their identity was fixed with as much -certainty as if-each-child had been named, Penny, — -the daughter, to whom the property is given in the first instance, being -excepted by necessary implication, because of the primary gift to her.

If the limitation over had been “ to the heirs of my body *¿hen*living,” there would have been uncertainty in respect *to the persons*and the descendants of a child, dying after the testator, would have answered the description at the happening of the event, and become, entitled to the share .their parent, if living, would have taken, to the exclusion of the personal representatives'; but the limitation over is not thus restricted. The persons, to whom it is given, were certain at the death of the testator, and the uncertainty rested upon a collateral *event*irrespective ef their being alive when the event happened, consequently, the interest of the sons, who died, devolved on their personal representative; *Sanderlin*v. Deford, 2 Jones’ Rep. 74.

Per Curiam, Let the demurrer foe over-ruled, and a decree be entered, declaring the opinion of ■the Court as to the construction-of the will and requiring the defendant to answer.