From: Rick Anderson [mailto:rick.anderson@faypwc.com] 

Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:22 PM 

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Subject: Re: Replacement Cost for Transformer Pole 

A lot of this stuff is dictated by the National Electrical Safety Code (NESC).

Rick

 

From: Mahesh P. Sampat [mailto:maheshsampat@bellsouth.net] 

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Subject: Re: Replacement Cost for Transformer Pole 

 

Hello Ken: 

 

 Thank you for developing this info... It looks like DOE wasn't too far off in assuming cost of 

$2000/per pole change out... 

 

 The only other remaining question left that needs addressing is... 

 

 "When" does pole need to be changed? IE: What are "Engineering Rules/Limits" that 

result in pole change out...

 

 Once we know that, we/DOE can estimate change-out frequency... 

 

 Thank you. 

 

Best Regards, 

 

Mahesh 

 

--- On Wed, 10/19/11, Kenneth Winder <kwinder@mleainc.com> wrote: 

From: Kenneth Winder <kwinder@mleainc.com> 

Subject: Replacement Cost for Transformer Pole 

To: "Richard Parker" <richardparkerdc@gmail.com> 

Cc: phopkinson@hvolt.com, Aaron.Meyers@cooperindustries.com, 

adelaski@standardsasap.org, ahofmann@publicpower.org, amarantan@navigant.com, 

artrosenfeld@gmail.com, august.esch@gmail.com, BermanEconomics@gmail.com, 

brian.coffey@navigant.com, bruce.r.hirsch@bge.com, bsmith@federalpacific.com, 

cabolduc@lbl.gov, Caitlin.Johnson@navigant.com, carlos.gaytan@ge.com, 

carlosgsiqueiros@eaton.com, chad.kennedy@us.schneider-electric.com, charlied@uus.org, 

chuck.simmons@pgnmail.com, clark.silcox@nema.org, cstephens@neea.org, 

Daniel.Cohen@hq.doe.gov, dave.millure@metglas.com, DYoung@energy-solution.com, 

eduardorobles@eaton.com, Eric.Petersen@aksteel.com, gbf1@pge.com, gjrosenquist@lbl.gov, 

greg.coulter405@gmail.com, James.Lass@cleco.com, Jennifer.Tiedeman@hq.doe.gov, 
Jeremiah.Freeman@ee.doe.gov, jerry.corkran@cooperindustries.com, 

jerry.schoen@aksteel.com, jhodge@howard-ind.com, Jim.creevy@nema.org, 

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thomas.patzner@us.schneider-electric.com, vijay.tendulkar@onyxpower.com, 

zhimei.luo@navigant.com, "Chris Boulduc" <cabolduc@lbl.gov>, "Ken Winder" 

<kwinder@mleainc.com> 

Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 8:36 PM 

Richard and Committee: 

 Attached is a spreadsheet showing the cost to replace an existing pole in a three-phase 

distribution circuit with an existing single-phase distribution transformer mounted on it. This 

information was developed to estimate the cost to replace an existing pole with a new, higher 

strength pole required because of the increased weight of the distribution transformer. This 

estimate represents the cost to do this for my Cooperative. 

 Other Utilities will be furnishing this information for their systems. 

Kenneth A. Winder, PE 

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