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# OAR Box 1147 Prepped by Ollie Stewart



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### A \ UNITE D STATE S ENVIRONMENTA L PROTECTIO N AGENC Y AN N ARBOR . MICHIGA N 4810 5


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Recover y Glenn W . Passavant , Senio r Projec t Manage r Standard s Developmen t an d Suppor t Branc h Th e Recor d Cheste r J . France , Chie f Standard s Developmen t a O n January12 , 198 8 EPAan d NHTS Astaf f hel d two meeting s regarding th e onboar d vapo r recover yproject . Th e purpos e o f th e firs t meetin g wa s t o discus s the technica l rational e supportin g NHTSA' s analysi s o f pas t recal l action s whic h the y believ e ma

yb e relevan t t o onboar d safety . Th e secon d meetin g wa s se t u

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d coordinat e o n technica l aspect s o f EPAan d NHTS Aresponse s t o an Octobe r 30 , 198 7 lette r fromth e Hous e Committe e o n Energ yan d Commerc e regarding onboar d vapo r recovery . ( Alis t o f attendee s fo r the secon d meeting i s attached. ) Wit h regard t o th e firs t meeting , betwee n Frida yJanuary 8 , 198 8 whe n th e meeting wa s confirme d an d TuesdayJanuary12 , 198 8 whe n the meeting wa s held , NHTS Areassigne d the recal l analysi s projec t fro m on e Offic e o f Defect s Investigatio n (OD D enginee r t o another . Th e newl yassigne d enginee r ha d no t had tim e t o revie w NHTSA' s backgroun d file s o n th e onboar d projec t o r thei r detaile d file s on th e recall s whic h NHTS Aclaime d wer e relevan t t o onboar d vapo r recover ysystems . Th e previousl y assigne d enginee r wa s no t availabl e fo r th e meeting , bu t joine d u s durin g lunch . Nevertheless , w

e reviewe d bot h NHTS Aan d EPA' s philosoph

y an d approac h t o th e recal l issue . During th e cours e o f th e conversatio n the NHTS Aenginee r state d tha t i t i s hard t o ti eP 3

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pas t systemperformanc e directl yt o futur e recall s an d tha t eve n NHTS Aregulation s lea d t o recalls . Sinc e NHTS Awa s no t prepare d t o discus s the technica l rational e behin d eac h o f the recall s i n thei r analysis , w e aske d t o mee t agai n a t a late r dat e t o continu e the discussion . W e invite d th e NHTSA/OD I enginee r atten

d a January25 , 198 8 meeting betwee n EP Aan d API , an d t o hol d our discussion s o n the recall s afterward . Th e NHTS Aenginee r late r electe d no t t o atten d th e meeting . During ou r lunc h discussions , th e previousl yassigne d enginee r commente d tha t th e NHTS Arecal l analysi s doesn' t impl y anything definit e wit h respec t t o the futur e impac t o f addin g onboard , an

d tha t NHTS Aha s no opinio n abou t safet yo f evaporativ e contro l system s compare d t o pre-evaporativ e vehicles . Mos t o f the pertinen t detail s o f the secon d meetin g involve d discussion s o f technica l aspect s o f th e question s raise d in the lette r mentione d abov e an d ho w thos e technica l detail s shoul d b e considere d i n th e responses . Mos t o f thes e point s wer e ultimatel yreflecte d i n the response s provide d b y EPAan d NHTSA . Tw o othe r noteworth ydiscussion s occurred . Th e firs t focuse d o n the valu e o f EP Ao r some othe r intereste d part y cras h testing a

n onboard-equippe d vehicle . NHTS Astate d tha t whethe r a give n onboard-equippe d vehicl e passe d o r faile d FMVS S 30 1 woul d d o littl e t o addres s safet yissue s regarding onboard , becaus e th e outcome o f an ysuc h testing woul d b e largel y dependen t o n the desig n tested . A s measure d b yFMVS S 301 , bot h saf e an

d unsaf e system s coul d b e buil t fo r testing . Second , NHTS Aagree d tha t du e t o the publicit ygive n t o the onboar d safet yquestio n manufacturer s woul d undoubtedl yb e ver ycarefu l abou t safet yi f w e procee d wit h onboard . Attachment s

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Attendee s EPA-NHTS AMeeting Scot t % , Yor k Pau l Yoshid a Ralp h Hitchcoc k Mik e Brownle e Joh n Anderso n Che t Franc e Glen n Passavan t Do n Zinge r Jef f Quand t Ar t Neil l BarryFelric e Eric a Jone s Joh n Womac k Georg e Parke r 1/12/8 8 NHTSA/OD I NHTSA/OD I NHTS A NHTS A EP A EPA EP A. EPA-D C OD I OD I NHTS A NHTS A NHTS A NHTS A