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DATE : Apri l 2 , 199 1 PLACE : Mutua l Building , Durham , Nort hCarolin a ATTENDEES : 

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Elain e Manning , U.S . EPA , CP B Penny Lassiter , U.S . EPA , CP B Debbi e Stackhouse , U.S . EPA , SDB Susa nVyatt , U.S . EPA , CP B BobLucas , U.S . EPA , CP B K.C . Hustvedt , U.S . EPA , CP B BobRosensteel , U.S . EPA , CP B Michel e Aston , U.S . EPA , CP B Marth a Smith , U.S . EPA Davi dMisenheimer , U.S . EPA , EIB/TS D Mar y AnnStewart , U.S . EPA , EIB/TS D Annett e Stanley , Chemica l Manufacturer' s Associatio n(CMA ) Nanc y Cookson , CM

A Graham Fitzsimons , Researc hTriangle ; Institut e (RTI ) l ' Marvi nBranscome , RT I Clar kAllen , RT I Jo e Trombka , Dow

Chemica l Ala nRoy , Allied-Signa l Jerr y M . Schroy , Monsant o Co . Gordo nBrown , Exxo nChemica l Lew Buchanan , Atoche m

Nort hAmeric a Jef f Elliott , Radia nCorporatio n RonBerglund , Unio nCarbid e Pau l Jann , OuPon t Co .

SUBJECT : HONWastewate r Regulatio n

PURPOS E O F MEETING Representative s o f th e Chemica l Manufacturer' s Associatio n - (CMA ) requeste d t o mee t wit hth e Environmenta l Protectio n Agency' s (EPA's ) Offic e o f Ai r Qualit yPlannin g an d Standard s (OAQPS ) t o discus s th e Hazardou s Organi c NESHA P (HON ) bein g develope d t o regulat e emission s fromwastewater . Applicabilit yo f Regulatio n Pau l Jann , th e spokesperso n fo r th e secondaryemission s committe e withi n CMA , raise d a questio n concernin g applicability
. Th e concer n wa s tha t i f MAC T i s triggere d fo r vent s withi n a proces s unit , woul d thi s automaticall ytrigge r wastewate r requirement s fo r MAC T control s a s well
. Bo b Rosenstee l responde d b ysayin g tha t applicabilit yfo r th e individua l source s woul d b e determine d individuall yan d triggerin g contro l requirement s fo r proces s vent s woul d no t trigge r contro l requirement s fo r wastewater .

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Lo wVolatilit yCompound s Concern s wer e als o raise d b yPau l Jann abou t EPArequirin g treatmen t b

ystea mstripping o f lowvolatilit ycompounds
. Pau l Jann suggeste d a tiere d Henry' s Lawapproac hwit hconcentratio n cutoff s o f 500 , 100 , an d 1 0 fo r low , medium , an d hig hvolatilit y compounds
. Wit hvolatilit ymeasure d b yHenry' s Law , low

- 7 volatilit ycompound s woul d b e approximatel y1 0 , mediu m volatilit ywoul d b e 10 ' , an d highvolatilit ywoul d b e IO* 3

. Penn yLassite r responde d tha t th e regulatio n wil l hav e flowan d concentratio n cutoff s an d wil l accoun t fo r volatility
. On e o f th e way s i n whic hth e regulatio n wil l accoun t fo r volatilit yi s throughth e us e o f Metho d 25D
. CM Aexpresse d concern s regardin g th e us e o f Metho d 25 D sinc e the yfee l i t i s to o "robust " a method
. CM

Arequeste d tha t an ycontro l requirement s allo w maximu mflexibilit y(i.e. , stea m strippe r o r equivalen t shoul d allo wmaximu

mflexibilit yt o mee t th e o r equivalen t standard)
. Gordo n Brown aske d i f ther e wa s a possibilit ytha t low Henry' s La wcompound s mayb e exempte d fromcontro l requirement s fo r wastewater . Penn yLassite r an

d K.C
. Hustved t state d tha t ther e wa s a possibilit ytha t thi s migh t b e incorporate d int o th e standard
. Mas s pe r Yea r Cutof f Pau l Jan n aske d i s i f ther e woul d b e a mas s pe r yea r cutof f lik e i n th e Benzen e NESHAP
. K.C
. Hustved t responde d tha t ther e mayb e a mas s pe r yea r cutof f o n a facilit ybasis , however , i t woul d no t b e lik e th e Benzen e mas s pe r yea r cutoff
. Poin t o f Generatio n Ther e wa s som e discussio n regardin g definitio n o f point-of

generation
. Th e genera l conclusio n wa s tha t th e fina l definitio n coul d no t b e provide d a t thi s time , however , a genera l definitio n woul d b e base d o n th e fac t tha t th e point-of-generatio n mus t b e prio r t o an

ypoin t o f potentia l emission s from th e wastewater . CM Arequeste d tha t ther e b e allowance s fo r enclosin g a sewe r systemrathe r tha n har d pipin g t o th e contro l device
. Debbi e Stackhous e responde d tha t ther e woul d probabl yb e some provisio n nja.055/reg.mt g2P. 4

a s ther e wa s i n th e Benzen e Wast e Standar d whic hwoul d allo w enclosur e o f th e sewe r systema s a mean s o f transpor t t o th e contro l device
. Penn yLassite r responde d t o severa l question s regardin g forma t o f th e standar d b ysaying tha t tw o larg e issue s ar e ye t t o b e resolve d an

d unti l thes e issue s ar e resolved , progres s o n developmen t o f forma t o f th e standar d i s being slowed
. Thes e issue s ar e th e MAC T floor s an d ris k issues
.
Wastewate r Model s CM Arecommende d tha t w e shoul d develo p a coupl e o f goo d database s tha t ar e reliabl e an d hav e bee n QA/QC'd , tha t ca n b e use d fo r mode l validation
. SIM S wa s develope d a s a simpl e too l fo r state s doin g area-wid e emission s inventories ; i t wa s no t intende d fo r source-specifi c detail , lik e CHEMDAT
. CM Apointe d ou t tha t althoughSIM S an d CHEMDA

T shoul d yiel d th e same answers , industrywa s havin g some proble mwit hthis
. CM Arequeste d tha t ther e b e som e qualificatio n o f th e us e o f defaults
. CM Aals o mentione d tha t the yhav e develope d th e PAVE model , an d commente d tha t thi s ha s a mor e detailed , accurat e representatio n o f biodegradation
. Equipmen t Suppl y CM Arepeate d thei r assertio n state d i n a previou s meetin g wit hEPAtha t ther e wil l b e a problem wit hvendor s bein g abl e t o suppl yequipmen t i n tim e fo r industryt o mee t th e complianc e dates
. CM

Awoul d prefe r a staggere d complianc e schedule
.

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