UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION OFFICE OF HEARINGS

IN THE MATTER OF: NORTHEASTERN AVIATION CORPORATION Respondent
Tuesday, March 22, 2016 FDMS No. FAA-2015-0206 1

The teleconference convened, pursuant to notice, at 2:30p.m.
BEFORE: THE HONORABLE J. E. SULLIVAN, Administrative Law Judge

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On Behalf of the Complainant: CAMILLE J. CASTILLO, ESQ. of: Federal Aviation Administration Enforcement Division, Northeast Team 1 Aviation Plaza Jamaica, New York 11434 718-553-3278 camille.castillo@faa.gov

On Behalf of the Respondent: EDWARD J. LONGOSZ, II, ESQ. of: Eckert, Seamans, Cherin & Mellot, LLC 1717 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Suite 1200 Washington, D.C. 20036 202-659-6619 elongosz@eckertseamans.com

Also Present: 2

DOUGLAS M. RAWALD, Administrative Law Judge

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### JUDGE SULLIVAN: We're on the record 4 

### in the matter of Northeaster Aviation 5 

### Corporation. This is Docket Number FAA-2015- 6 

### 0206. It is Tuesday, March 22nd, 2016 and the 7 parties have convened for a second pre-hearing 8 status conference. 9 The Federal Aviation Administration, 10 which I'll here and after refer to as the FAA, is 11 represented by its Attorney of Record, Ms. 12 Camille J. Castillo. 13 The Respondent, Northeastern Aviation 14 Corporation, is represented by its lead Attorney, 15 Mr. Edward J. Longosz, II. 16 Also present at the Office of 17 Hearings, sitting in as an observer, is Judge 18 Douglas M. Rawald. 19 Good afternoon to you all. 20 21 Your Honor. 22

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### MR. LONGOSZ: Good afternoon again,

JUDGE SULLIVAN: I will just briefly

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### 1 highlight that the parties last convened by 2 telephone on March 7th, 2016 for a pre-hearing 3 

### status conference. During that conference the 4 parties agreed to confer privately about the case 5 and then appear again today, at today's date and 6 time, for a second pre-hearing status conference. 7 

### That was codified by a court order 8 dated May 7, 2016 identified as order setting 9 second pre-hearing status conference. 10 Ms. Castillo, since you are the FAA 11 Counsel, I'm will turn to you first to see if 12 you've made any progress in evaluating the case 13 for settlement and talking to your friend across 14 the aisle, since that was the status of the case 15 at the last conference. 16 MS. CASTILLO: Yes, actually I have. 17 

### We did have a conversation yesterday. And in 18 terms of reaching a settlement, I have made 19 

### further headway. I believe that I would need 20 approximately two weeks so that we could work out 21 a settlement using compliance philosophy. 22

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### JUDGE SULLIVAN: Well, let me ask you

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### a little bit about that. When you say, 2 compliance philosophy, what does that mean? 3 MS. CASTILLO: 

### Your Honor, there has 4 been more of a switch in the FAA that recently 5 has occurred and that there have been some 6 

### changes to the 2150 Guidance. Which indicates 7 

### that under certain circumstances, it is 8 appropriate to seek remedial or corrective action 9 in certain situations. 10 And it's the opinion of the FAA that 11 at this point, this case and the circumstances 12 surrounding this case, would fall into those 13 categories. 14 JUDGE SULLIVAN: 

### Okay. And when you 15 say it will take you another two weeks 16 MS
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### Your Honor, I 

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-- two weeks in terms of having 18 a final document, a settlement agreement, signed 19 by both parties. 20 JUDGE SULLIVAN: 

### Well today is March 21 22nd, 2016. Two weeks from today would be April 22 5, 2016.

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### 1 I had another case, a companion case, 2 of the Respondent's before me earlier today and 3 we set some deadlines in that case of a 4 settlement document, if filed, to be filed with 5 the court by April Bth, 2016. 6 Would that work in this case as well 7 or are you suggesting a different deadline? 8 

### MS. CASTILLO: I believe that April 9 Bth would work for both cases, Your Honor. 10 JUDGE SULLIVAN: Okay. Mr. Longosz, 11 turning to you. Do you have anything you would 12 like to add or correct to this summary and 13 suggestions provided by Ms. Castillo? 14 

### MR. LONGOSZ: No, I'm fine with that. 15 Your Honor, again in this case, like the other 16 containing case, the devil's in the details. But 17 I think that's a reasonable timeframe. 18 

### This case, our deadline for exhibits 19 

### and witnesses is not until May 9. So it would 20 not require, nor would we ask that anything else 21 be changed, with respect to your scheduling 22 order.

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### So I would I join in that request of 2 the April 8th date to be the trigger date for 3 filing things. Or at least surprising the court 4 of exactly the status. 5 

### JUDGE SULLIVAN: So essentially, Mr. 6 Longosz, you're suggesting that the April 8th, 7 2016 deadline be either to file documents or to 8 file a pre-hearing status report of some kind? 9 

### MR. LONGOSZ: Yes, Your Honor. 10 JUDGE SULLIVAN: Okay. Ms. Castillo, 11 do you have any objection to that friendly 12 amendment to the deadline of April 8th, 2016? 13 

### MS. CASTILLO: No, Your Honor, I do 14 not. 15 

### JUDGE SULLIVAN: Okay. Then what I 16 will do is I'll adopt that in its entirety. I'll 17 set a deadline of April 8th, 2016 for the parties 18 to file settlement documents. 19 

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### no 20 settlement has been reached and no documents 21 filed, a pre-hearing status report regarding the 22 status of the case.

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### And if I get the settlement documents, 2 

### I'll issue an order accordingly. If I get the 3 pre-hearing status report and there's a request 4 for additional conference time or other attention 5 

### of the court, I'll respond to that timely as 6 well. 7 

### With that, Ms. Castillo, is there 8 anything else you would like to add or correct to 9 

### the record before we close today? 10 MS. CASTILLO: No, Your Honor.
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### JUDGE SULLIVAN: Mr. Longosz, same 12 question to you, sir? 13 

### MR. LONGOSZ: No, Your Honor. Thank 14 you. 15 

### JUDGE SULLIVAN: You're welcome. I 

### 16 should also mention that the June 14, 2016 17 through June 16, 2016 hearing date in Manhattan, 18 New York or Islip, New York remains confirmed. 19 

### And I will also be using the April 20 8th, 2016 deadline date to check my file to see 21 if I need to get a courtroom for that particular 22 

### location, for this preceding.

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### 1 helpful for me, and for you obviously as well, if 2 we all meet that deadline with the best of 3 efforts. 4 I will wish you both then very good 5 luck in your private settlement negotiations. 6 Thank you very much for appearing today and 7 apprising the court of your current status. 8 

### It appears our business is complete, 9 

### we can go off the record. And I wish you all a 10 good day, thank you. 11 MR. 

### LONGOSZ: Thank you. Good day, 12 Your Honor. 13 JUDGE SULLIVAN: All right, bye-bye. 14 (Whereupon, the above-entitled matter 15 went off the record at 2:36p.m.) 16 17 18 19 

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This is to certify that the foregoing transcript

In the matter of: Northeastern Aviation Corp. FAA-2015-0206 Before: DOT/OH

Date: 03-22-16

Place: teleconference

was duly recorded and accurately transcribed under my direction; further, that said transcript is a true and accurate record of the proceedings.


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