800 Independence Ave., SW.

Washington, DC 20591

December 5, 2012

Exemption No. 8825C

Regulatory Docket No. FAA-2000-7945

Ms. Caitlin M. Randles

Supervisor, Flight Test Engineering

The Boeing Company

P.O. Box 3707

Seattle, WA 98124-2207

Dear Ms. Randles:

This letter is to inform you that we have granted your petition to extend and amend Exemption 

No. 8825, as amended. It explains the basis for our decision, describes its effect and lists the 

conditions and limitations.

The Basis for Our Decision

By letter dated August 25, 2012, you petitioned the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) on 

behalf of The Boeing Company (Boeing) for an extension of and amendment to Exemption 

No. 8825, as amended. That exemption from § 61.57(a) and (b) of Title 14, Code of Federal 

Regulations (14 CFR) allows Boeing production and engineering flight test pilots to use any type 

of Boeing airplane simulator that represents any type of Boeing airplane to meet the takeoff and 

landing recent experience requirements of § 61.57 without Boeing Flight Training holding a part 

142 training center certificate.

In your petition, you request to amend the following conditions and limitations:

Proposed Revision 1 – Addition of 787 TCDS

The Boeing Model 787-8 received FAA Type Certificate approval on August 26, 2011, as 

documented by the issuance of FAA type certificate data sheets (TCDS) 

No. T00021SE. Boeing requests that this TCDS number be added to Condition No. 1 of 

Exemption No. 8825 to identify the 787 as an additional Boeing-manufactured airplane in which 

any Boeing pilot must be type rated in order to qualify for application of the remaining 

Conditions and Limitations of Exemption No. 8825.
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Boeing also requests that Condition and Limitation No. 2 be revised to add TCDS 

No. T00021SE to identify the Model 787 as an additional FAA-approved Boeing airplane type in 

which each pilot in command (PIC) may meet the requirements of § 61.57(a) and (b) and 

subsequently be considered to have met those requirements for all Boeing aircraft types 

identified in Condition No. 2.

Boeing also requests that Condition No. 3 be revised to add TCDS No. T00021SE to identify the 

Model 787 as an additional FAA-approved Boeing airplane type for which a representative 

simulator may be used for each PIC to meet the requirements of § 61.57(a) and (b).

Proposed Revision 2

Through acquisitions of existing FAA-approved flight training entities, Boeing has established 

Boeing Flight Training, which is operated under part 142 certificate No. F7NX012K. Since the 

simulators that Boeing uses for pilots to show compliance with the requirements of § 61.57(a) 

and (b) are now operated in accordance with an approved course by a part 142 certificate holder, 

Boeing no longer requires Exemption No. 8825 to provide relief from part 142 certificate holder 

requirement specified in § 61.57(a)(iii)(2) and (b)(ii)(2). Consequently, Boeing would like to 

request that all references to “without Boeing holding a part 142 training center certificate” be 

removed from Exemption No. 8825 as part of the renewal being requested by this letter.

The petitioner also states that other than Boeing having become an approved training center 

under part 142, there has been no change in the conditions and reasons relative

to public interest and safety that were the basis for granting the original exemption.

The FAA has determined that good cause exists for not publishing a summary of the petition

in the Federal Register because the requested extension and amendments would not set a

precedent.

Our Decision

The FAA has determined that the requested amendments would not adversely affect safety 

because Boeing pilots are highly trained and are continuously involved in the development of 

procedures for the safe operation of all Boeing airplanes. “Boeing Flight Training” as an FAAapproved part 142 training center providing oversight adds an additional level of safety. The 

recent experience requirement of Condition No. 3 ensures that the pilots maintain a high state of 

proficiency. 

In consideration of the foregoing, I find that a grant of exemption is in the public interest. 

Therefore, pursuant to the authority contained in 49 U.S.C. §§ 40113 and 44701, delegated to me 

by the Administrator, The Boeing Company is granted an exemption from 14 CFR § 61.57(a) 

and (b) to the extent necessary to use any type of Boeing airplane simulator that represents any 

type of Boeing airplane to meet the takeoff and landing recent experience requirements of 

§ 61.57, subject to the conditions and limitations listed below.
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Conditions and Limitations

1. This exemption applies only to pilots employed by the Boeing Company who hold a pilot 

certificate with a type rating in at least one model of Boeing-manufactured aircraft listed 

in Boeing aircraft type certificate data sheets A6WE, A16WE, A20WE, A2NM, A1NM, 

T00001SE, or T00021SE while engaging in flight operations in one of those airplanes on 

behalf of Boeing.

2. Each PIC subject to this exemption meeting the requirements of § 61.57(a) or (b) in any 

type of Boeing airplane listed in Boeing aircraft type certificate data sheets A6WE, 

A16WE, A20WE, A2NM, A1NM, OR T00001SE, T00021SE, and Boeing Commercial 

Aircraft (BCA) experimental aircraft in developmental and certification flight test 

programs, will be considered to have met the requirements of § 61.57(a) and (b) for all 

those types of Boeing aircraft.

3. Each PIC subject to this exemption may meet the requirements of § 61.57(a) and (b) in a 

simulator that represents any Boeing aircraft listed in Boeing aircraft type certificate data 

sheets A6WE, A16WE, A20WE, A2NM, A1NM, OR T00001SE, T00021SE, and BCA 

experimental aircraft in developmental and certification flight test programs, in which the 

person to serve as PIC, subject to the following:

a. Since the beginning of the preceding 12 calendar months, the pilot must complete 

the requirements of § 61.57 (a) or (b) in any type of Boeing airplane;

b. Since the beginning of the preceding 12 calendar months, the pilot must 

accomplish 100 hours of pilot time, 10 hours of which must be in any type of 

Boeing airplane; or

c. Since the beginning of the preceding 6 calendar months, the pilot must 

accomplish 50 hours of pilot time, 5 hours of which must be in any type of 

Boeing airplane;

d. The pilot must make three takeoffs and three landings to a full stop, subject to the 

following requirements:

i. The simulators used must be qualified and approved by the FAA for 

takeoff and landing maneuver;

ii. The takeoffs and landings must be accomplished under the supervision of 

a simulator instructor who certifies the pilot being observed is proficient in 

making takeoffs and landings; and

iii. The pilot must be the sole manipulator of the flight controls;

e. The takeoffs and landings must include at least one takeoff with a simulated 

failure of the most critical powerplant and at least one landing from an instrument 

landing system (ILS) approach to the lowest ILS minimums for which the pilot 

and airplane are authorized; and
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f. The flight simulator’s visual system must be adjusted to display a visual scene 

representing the period between 1 hour after sunset until 1 hour before sunrise.

4. A copy of this exemption must be provided to each PIC who operates under the terms of 

this exemption.

5. A copy of this exemption must be presented to representatives of the Administrator upon 

request.

The Effect of Our Decision

Our decision extends the termination date of Exemption No. 8825, as amended, to 

January 31, 2015, unless sooner superseded or rescinded. 

Sincerely,

/s/

John M. Allen

Director, Flight Standards Service