From: Caitlin Johnson 

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To: Brian Coffey 

Subject: FW: Negotiated Rulemaking - Distribution Transformers Teleconference 

Btw, did you send out the graphs (which Berman asks for) that Pam and I created yesterday?

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From: Robert Berman [mailto:bermaneconomics@gmail.com] 

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Subject: Re: Negotiated Rulemaking - Distribution Transformers Teleconference 

Thank you Richard. That clarification is helpful. 

In the liquid-filled meeting we were told that we would receive an analysis of incremental Watts 

saved by DL for all ELs, as well as the incremental cost. When will that analysis be available? 

For many of us, that analysis is the basis for additional, perhaps extensive analyses, so it should 

come with enough lead time before any additional meetings or teleconferences to that we can 

give it the required consideration. It would be most helpful if the incremental cost were provided 

separately for transformer and installation, with any pole component of the installation identified. 
For the MV Dry and LV Dry meetings, it would be most helpful if you would also circulate an 

agenda with objectives, hopefully this week, so that we are able to prepare for those meetings. 

Regards,

Robert A. Berman, Principal

Berman Economics

www.BermanEconomics.com

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On Nov 10, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Richard Parker wrote: 

Dear Colleagues: 

The telcon on the 17th is currently planned for medium-voltage dry-type and the telcon on the 

21st is reserved for low-voltage. There will be revised analysis circulated in advance of both 

calls per our discussion yesterday. Each call has substantial chunks of time allocated, though I 

hope we won't need all that time. 

It may be prudent to schedule a liquid-filled call at some point as well, but I propose that we hold 

off on that for day or so, until we can clarify when revised analysis for liquid-filled will be 

ready. 

Thanks for your very constructive participation in the meetings over the last two days. 

Richard Parker 

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Freeman, Jeremiah (CONTR) 

<Jeremiah.Freeman@ee.doe.gov> wrote: 

When: Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:00 PM‐5:00 PM (GMT‐05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada).

Where: Webinar and Phone

  

Note: The GMT offset above does not reflect daylight saving time adjustments.

  

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Dear Colleagues,

  
This event is to save the time slot on your calendar based on our discussion at yesterday's meeting.

Later today further information will be sent regarding the registration information for our November 17

and November 21 webinars. After registering you will get the link for the webinar and a toll free

number.

  

Please call with questions or concerns.  

  

Very Respectfully,

Jeremiah Freeman

202‐431‐4243 (cell)

202‐586‐1867 (office)