[Cite as In re T.W., 2012-Ohio-5938.]

IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF OHIO 

THIRD APPELLATE DISTRICT 

ALLEN COUNTY 

 

IN THE MATTER OF: 

 CASE NO. 1-12-16 

 T.W., 

 O P I N I O N 

ALLEGED DELINQUENT CHILD. 

 

Appeal from Allen County Common Pleas Court 

Juvenile Division 

Trial Court No. 2011 JG 28838 

Judgment Affirmed 

Date of Decision: December 17, 2012 

 

APPEARANCES: 

Cheryl R. Washington for Appellant 

Jordan J. Grant for Appellee 
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PRESTON, J. 

{¶1} Defendant-appellant, T.W., appeals the Allen County Court of 

Common Pleas Juvenile Division’s judgment finding her delinquent for the 

offense of disorderly conduct following an adjudicatory hearing. T.W. argues her 

finding of delinquency is the result of an unconstitutional seizure and unlawful 

arrest, and that her finding of delinquency is against the manifest weight of the 

evidence. For the reasons that follow, we affirm. 

{¶2} The present case stems from an incident that occurred on September 

20, 2010. (Tr. at 4). Officers were called to the scene at the intersection of 

Elizabeth and Kibby Streets in Lima, Ohio to investigate an alleged fight that had 

occurred while a large group of middle school children were walking home from 

school. (Id. at 5). When the officers arrived, they observed the group of children 

but did not see any evidence of a fight. (Id. at 10). As one of the officers left, 

T.W. held up her two middle fingers towards the officer and a group of children 

on the other side of the street. (Id. at 11). It was initially unclear to the officer 

whether the gesture was directed towards him or the other children. (Id. at 12). 

The officer stopped to discuss the incident with T.W., but she refused to 

cooperate. (Id. at 12-13). After repeatedly requesting that T.W. stop walking 

away from him and T.W. refusing to comply, the officer arrested T.W. (Id.). 

Upon and following her arrest, T.W. used profane and abusive language towards 
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the officers she encountered, and threatened violence towards them and their 

families. (Id. at 14-18, 45, 82). 

{¶3} On July 11, 2011, a complaint was filed against T.W. alleging she was 

a delinquent child for committing the offense of obstructing official business in 

violation of R.C. 2921.31(A), a misdemeanor of the second degree if committed as 

an adult, and persistent disorderly conduct in violation of R.C. 

2917.11(A)(2)(E)(3)(a), a misdemeanor of the fourth degree if committed as an 

adult. (Doc. No. 1). 

{¶4} The juvenile court held a pre-trial hearing on August 17, 2011. (Doc. 

No. 8). At that time, T.W. denied the allegations contained in the complaint. 

(Id.). 

{¶5} On January 11, 2012, the matter came before the juvenile court for an 

adjudicatory hearing. (Doc. No. 20). The juvenile court filed its judgment entry 

on January 27, 2012, finding that T.W. was a delinquent child due to persistent 

disorderly conduct, but finding that T.W. was not a delinquent child as a result of 

obstructing official business. (Id.). 

{¶6} The juvenile court held a dispositional hearing on March 8, 2012. 

(Doc. No. 22). On March 12, 2012, the juvenile court filed its judgment entry 

placing T.W. on community control for 90 days monitored time, ordering her to 

perform six hours of community service, and ordering her to pay court costs. (Id.). 
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{¶7} On April 6, 2012, T.W. filed a notice of appeal. (Doc. No. 24). T.W. 

now raises three assignments of error for our review. For the purposes of our 

discussion, we will address T.W.’s first two assignments of error together. 

Assignment of Error No. I 

Trial court erred in mischaracterizing the encounter preceding 

appellant’s arrest as “consensual,” as the encounter constituted 

an illegal pursuit, detention and seizure in violation of 

appellant’s rights under the Ohio and United States 

Constitutions. 

Assignment of Error No. II 

Trial court erred in determining that appellant [T.W.] had been 

legally arrested when police officers apprehended and 

handcuffed her, as the arrest was unlawful and accomplished in 

violation of appellant’s Fourth Amendment rights. 

{¶8} In her first two assignments of error, T.W. argues the police officers 

violated her Fourth Amendment rights by illegally arresting her. In her first 

assignment of error, T.W. argues her encounter with the arresting officer was not 

consensual and that the officer illegally restrained her when she attempted to 

leave. T.W. further contends that the officer stopped her in retaliation for her 

raising her middle fingers towards him, and that the officer’s action violated her 

First Amendment rights. In her second assignment of error, T.W. argues that her 

gesture did not establish probable cause for her arrest. T.W. contends that since 

the officer did not have probable cause, her arrest was unlawful. 
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{¶9} As an initial matter, we note that T.W. failed to file a motion to 

suppress challenging the lawfulness of her arrest. Consequently, she raises these 

arguments for the first time on appeal. Crim. R. 12 requires a defendant to file a 

motion to suppress to challenge illegally obtained evidence. State v. Gilbert, 7th 

Dist. No. 08 MA 206, 2012-Ohio-1165, ¶ 80; State v. Martinez, 4th Dist. No. 91 

CA 1, *6 (Sept. 28, 1992). “A motion to suppress is the proper vehicle for raising 

challenges based on violations of the Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Amendments.” 

Gilbert at ¶ 80. If a defendant does not file a motion to suppress, she has waived 

all but plain error on appeal. State v. Wallace, 3d Dist. No. 14-10-20, 2011-Ohio1728, ¶ 8; State v. Burgett, 3d Dist. No. 9-09-14, 2009-Ohio-5278, ¶ 37. 

{¶10} We recognize plain error “‘with the utmost caution, under 

exceptional circumstances and only to prevent a manifest miscarriage of justice.’” 

State v. Landrum, 53 Ohio St.3d 107, 110 (1990), quoting State v. Long, 53 Ohio 

St.2d 91 (1978), paragraph three of the syllabus. For plain error to apply, the trial 

court must have deviated from a legal rule, the error must have been an obvious 

defect in the proceeding, and the error must have affected a substantial right. State 

v. Barnes, 94 Ohio St.3d 21, 27 (2002). Under the plain error standard, the 

appellant must demonstrate that the outcome of her trial would clearly have been 

different but for the trial court’s errors. State v. Waddell, 75 Ohio St.3d 163, 166 

(1996), citing State v. Moreland, 50 Ohio St.3d 58 (1990). 
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{¶11} We cannot find plain error in the present case. “[T]he proper remedy 

for a Fourth Amendment violation is suppression of the evidence wrongfully 

obtained, not dismissal of the charges.” Blanchester v. Hester, 81 Ohio App.3d 

815, 820 (12th Dist.1992). Even an unlawful or illegal arrest does not excuse 

subsequent criminal conduct. State v. Sears, 4th Dist. No. 624, *3 (Oct. 1, 1990). 

“[W]here a person who is being arrested commits a new crime during or after the 

arrest, the conduct witnessed that constitutes the new crime need not be 

suppressed merely because the initial arrest, which may be the motive for the new 

crime, turns out to be unlawful.” State v. Ali, 7th Dist. No. 02 BE 46, 2003-Ohio5150, ¶ 11. See also State v. Cossack, 7th Dist. No. 03-MA-263, 2005-Ohio-965, 

¶ 26-27; City of Akron v. Holmes, 9th Dist. No. 21590, 2004-Ohio-832, ¶ 14. 

{¶12} The Seventh District Court of Appeals addressed this issue in depth 

in State v. Ali, 2003-Ohio-5150. In that case, police officers responded to an 

anonymous call that a black vehicle with Virginia license plates was located at a 

local Belmont County gas station. Id. at ¶ 2. The caller expressed concern 

regarding “three subjects that appeared to be dressed in some Arabian garb 

clothing with their faces covered and masks on.” Id. The responding officer 

followed the vehicle and initiated a traffic stop. Id. After waiting for backup, the 

officer ordered the occupants out of the vehicle with a loudspeaker, instructed 

them to get onto the ground, and the officers eventually frisked and handcuffed the 
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individuals. Id. at ¶ 2. The defendant threatened the officers, telling them that she 

was going to kill them. Id. at ¶ 3. The defendant was charged with ethnic 

intimidation, resisting arrest, and aggravated menacing. Id. at ¶ 4. The trial court 

concluded that the officers lacked probable cause to arrest the defendant, but 

refused to suppress the statements that were the basis for the aggravated menacing 

charge because they were separate criminal acts. Id. at ¶ 4-5. 

{¶13} The Seventh District affirmed the defendant’s ultimate conviction for 

aggravated menacing, determining that the evidence of aggravated menacing that 

occurred during or after the unlawful arrest “need not be suppressed because such 

menacing is a separate and independent criminal act engaged in by the defendant 

rather than merely evidence that is already in existence at the time the unlawful 

arrest is made.” Id. at ¶ 18. The Seventh District reasoned, that “if appellant had 

drugs on her person or in her car, the drugs would be suppressed due to the 

illegality of the search and seizure.” Id. at ¶ 11. The Court distinguished this 

evidence from evidence of subsequent criminal activity, stating, “[o]n the other 

hand, if appellant had shot and killed a police officer during her arrest, this 

conduct would not be suppressed based upon the illegal arrest.” Id. Thus, the 

Seventh District held that evidence regarding a new crime that is committed 

during or after an arrest need not be suppressed simply because the initial arrest 

was unlawful. Id. 
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{¶14} The Second District Court of Appeals has applied the same reasoning 

in the case of a defendant assaulting an officer in response to an unlawful arrest, 

stating that “where the officers lacked cause to effectuate an original arrest yet 

where the accused responded to an illegal arrest by physically attacking the 

officer, the evidence of this new independent crime is admissible.” State v. 

Roberts, 2d Dist. No., 23219, 2010-Ohio-300, ¶ 22. This ruling is consistent with 

this Court’s previous case law, where we have stated that the fruit of the poisonous 

tree doctrine or derivative evidence rule “does not require the exclusion of all 

evidence that might not have been discovered ‘but for’ the illegal actions of the 

police.” State v. Pearson, 130 Ohio App.3d 577, 584 (3d Dist.1998). Rather, 

“[t]he rule only operates to exclude derivative evidence that is discovered as a 

result of a constitutional violation.” Id. 

{¶15} In the present case, the alleged acts that form the basis for T.W.’s 

delinquency for persistent disorderly conduct occurred during and subsequent to 

her arrest, and thus are not previously existing evidence that was discovered as a 

result of a constitutional violation. “An illegal arrest, without more, has never 

been viewed as a bar to subsequent prosecution, nor as a defense to a valid 

conviction.” United States v. Crews, 445 U.S. 463, 474, 100 S.Ct. 1244 (1980). 

Consequently, even if this Court were to agree with T.W. that her initial arrest was 

unlawful, that finding would not result in the reversal of her delinquency finding 
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since her allegedly illegal conduct occurred during and subsequent to her arrest 

and could constitute an independent crime of persistent disorderly conduct. As a 

result, this Court does not find plain error requiring the reversal of T.W.’s 

conviction based on the allegedly illegal arrest. 

{¶16} T.W.’s first and second assignments of error are, therefore, 

overruled. 

Assignment of Error No. III 

Appellant’s adjudication as a delinquent child is against the 

manifest weight and sufficiency of the evidence. 

{¶17} In her third assignment of error, T.W. argues her conviction is 

against the manifest weight and sufficiency of the evidence. T.W. contends that 

her profane language was free speech protected by the Fourth Amendment. T.W. 

further argues that although her speech was obscene, it did not constitute “fighting 

words” that would incite a reasonable police officer to respond with violence. 

T.W. also contends that since she was unable to presently fulfill her threats to the 

police officers, they could not have been reasonably alarmed. 

{¶18} In determining whether a conviction is against the manifest weight of 

the evidence, a reviewing court must examine the entire record, “‘[weigh] the 

evidence and all reasonable inferences, consider the credibility of witnesses and 

[determine] whether in resolving conflicts in the evidence, the [trier of fact] 

clearly lost its way and created such a manifest miscarriage of justice that the 
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conviction must be reversed and a new trial ordered.’” State v. Thompkins, 78 

Ohio St.3d 380, 387 (1997), quoting State v. Martin, 20 Ohio App.3d 172, 175 

(1st Dist.1983). A reviewing court must, however, allow the trier of fact 

appropriate discretion on matters relating to the weight of the evidence and the 

credibility of the witnesses. State v. DeHass, 10 Ohio St.2d 230, 231 (1967). 

{¶19} “An appellate court’s function when reviewing the sufficiency of the 

evidence to support a criminal conviction is to examine the evidence admitted at 

trial to determine whether such evidence, if believed, would convince the average 

mind of the defendant’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.” State v. Jenks, 61 Ohio 

St.3d 259 (1981), paragraph two of the syllabus, superseded by state constitutional 

amendment on other grounds in State v. Smith, 80 Ohio St.3d 89, 684 (1997). 

Accordingly, “[t]he relevant inquiry is whether, after viewing the evidence in a 

light most favorable to the prosecution, any rational trier of fact could have found 

the essential elements of the crime proven beyond a reasonable doubt.” Id. 

{¶20} T.W. was found delinquent for persistent disorderly conduct in 

violation of R.C. 2917.11(A)(2), which provides: 

No person shall recklessly cause inconvenience, annoyance, or alarm 

to another by doing any of the following: 

* * * 
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(2) Making unreasonable noise or an offensively coarse utterance, 

gesture, or display or communicating unwarranted and grossly 

abusive language to any person * * *. 

{¶21} The Supreme Court of Ohio has held that offensive speech is not a 

crime unless it rises to the level of fighting words. Cincinnati v. Karlan, 39 Ohio 

St.2d 107, 109-110 (1974). The Court has defined fighting words as words that, 

“by their very utterance inflict injury or are likely to provoke the average person to 

an immediate retaliatory breach of the peace.” Id. “In determining whether 

language rises to the level of ‘fighting words,’ courts look at the circumstances 

surrounding the words.” Middletown v. Carpenter, 12th Dist. No. CA2006-01-

004, 2006-Ohio-3625, ¶ 14, citing Hamilton v. Johnson, 12th Dist. No. CA99-02-

025, *4 (Dec. 3, 1999). This Court has previously held that we must review the 

standard objectively and determine whether a reasonable person would be 

provoked to breach the peace. State v. White, 3d Dist. Nos. 3-97-18, 3-97-19, *4 

(Apr. 21, 1998). 

{¶22} This Court has stated, “the fact that an officer is the person to whom 

the comments were directed has no bearing on our evaluation.” Id.; See also State 

v. Baker, 3d Dist. Nos. 9-88-8, 9-88-9, *3 (Sept. 19, 1989). However, other 

Courts have held that the fact that the statements were directed to an officer is an 

important part of the analysis. Carpenter at ¶ 15. For example, some district 
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courts of appeals have held that profane words intentionally directed towards a 

police officer are likely to constitute fighting words, while inappropriate 

commentary about the situation do not. Hamilton v. Johnson, 12th Dist. No. 

CA99-02-025, *4 (Dec. 3, 1999); State v. Beamer, 5th Dist. No. 11CA14, 2012-

Ohio-2222, ¶ 11; Warrensville Heights v. Brown, 8th Dist. No. 89346, 2008-Ohio126, ¶ 14. 

{¶23} Courts have found that words directed towards a police officer that 

constituted fighting words included, “What are you going to do asshole pig, You 

going to arrest me?” and “I hate all of you fucking prick-ass cops * * * get out of 

my way you fucking prick-ass cops.” State v. Dickey, 75 Ohio App.3d 628, 630 

(11th Dist.1991); Karlan, 39 Ohio St.2d, at paragraph three of the syllabus. In 

contrast, courts have held that words directed towards a police officer were not 

fighting words when they were a vulgar commentary about the situation, such as 

“stay away from the fucking door, get the fuck out of here,” “the police are 

worthless, this is f[ucking] bullshit,” and “go ahead, tow the motherfucker.” Kent 

v. Kelley, 44 Ohio St.2d 43, 43 (1975); Toledo v. Grince, 48 Ohio App.3d 126, 

127 (6th Dist.1989); State v. Lamm, 80 Ohio App.3d 510, 514 (4th Dist.1992). 

{¶24} During the adjudicatory hearing in the present case, Officer Nate 

Garlock, the arresting officer, testified that as he was driving away from the scene, 

T.W. held up her two middle fingers towards either him or another group of 
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children. (Tr. at 11). Officer Garlock testified that he approached T.W. and put 

his hand on her shoulder, and she said, “[g]et the fuck off of me.” (Id. at 14). 

Officer Garlock testified that T.W. continued to use profane language towards 

him, “[t]here was a lot of ‘fuck you’s’ and she called us ‘bitches’ a lot and it was a 

bunch of different terms.” (Id. at 16). Officer Garlock testified that he was 

alarmed by T.W.’s behavior, and that “she was very out of control.” (Id. at 15). 

Officer Garlock testified that he told T.W. to stop her behavior, but that “[s]he 

didn’t stop, but just kept going, she continued to tell us that she didn’t have to 

listen to us.” (Id. at 16). 

{¶25} Officer Matthew Woodworth assisted Officer Garlock at the scene. 

(Id. at 44). Officer Woodworth testified that while Officer Garlock was arresting 

T.W., she was yelling profanities at the officers and calling them “any name in the 

book.” (Id.). Officer Woodworth testified that he transported her to the police 

station, and that while T.W. was in the car, “she was cursing at me, saying ‘fuck 

you’, called me a pedophile, said she was going to have family members find 

myself and Patrolman Garlock * * * .” (Id. at 45). Officer Woodworth testified 

that he was alarmed when T.W. threatened to kill him. (Id.). Officer Woodworth 

testified that when they reached the police station, “[s]he was still yelling and 

cursing * * *.” (Id. at 47). 
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{¶26} Officer Dustin Brotherwood was working at the front desk when 

T.W. arrived at the police station. (Id. at 67-68). Officer Brotherwood testified 

that when the officers brought T.W. into the station, she was screaming 

obscenities, “[m]ultiple times, get your fucking hands off me, and kept screaming 

these words over and over. As they got her up to me, she continued to yell.” (Id. 

at 68). Officer Brotherwood testified that he was alarmed by T.W.’s behavior 

because she was very aggressive towards the officers. (Id. at 68-69). Officer 

Brotherwood testified that, “[a]s I was trying to remove the handcuffs, she was 

still being very vulgar with us, calling us racist bastards, cussing and saying fuck 

multiple times to us.” (Id. at 69). 

{¶27} Sergeant Beverly Leary testified that she stopped by T.W.’s holding 

cell because she heard her yelling. (Id. at 80). Sergeant Leary testified that she 

attempted to talk to T.W., and T.W. replied, “fuck you, you white bitch.” (Id. at 

81). Sergeant Leary asked T.W. her name and age, “[a]nd it was fuck you. And, 

then she got up off the bench, and she said if I didn’t have these handcuffs on, I 

would slap the white off your face until it turned black.” (Id. at 81-82). Sergeant 

Leary testified that T.W. “continued to cuss and she said, she would kill all of us.” 

(Id. at 82). Sergeant Leary testified that she was alarmed by T.W.’s threats to kill 

the officers. (Id.). 
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{¶28} Regardless of which standard this Court applies to the present case, 

T.W.’s delinquency is not against the manifest weight of the evidence or supported 

by insufficient evidence. The evidence established that T.W. directed a stream of 

profane and abusive language towards the officers, made racially charged 

statements such as calling them “white racists,” and made violent threats to the 

officers and their families. (Tr. at 16, 44, 45, 47, 68, 81-82). Thus, there is 

competent, credible evidence showing that a reasonable person would be incited to 

breach the peace in response to T.W.’s statements, and a rational trier of fact could 

have determined T.W. was guilty of persistent disorderly conduct. 

{¶29} The evidence also shows that the statements were more than an 

inappropriate commentary about the situation, but rather, a personal attack on the 

officers. T.W. called one officer a pedophile, another officer a “white bitch,” and 

threatened to “slap the white off [her] face.” (Tr. at 45, 81-82). The officers 

testified that they were alarmed by T.W.’s threats of violence and her aggressive 

behavior towards them. (Tr. at 15, 45, 68, 82). The Supreme Court of the United 

States has stated, that “the First Amendment protects a significant amount of 

verbal criticism and challenge directed at police officers.” Houston v. Hill, 482 

U.S. 451, 461, 107 S.Ct. 2502 (1987). However, we cannot find that the verbal 

criticism includes threats of violence to kill the officers and their families. See 

State v. McMullen, 5th Dist. No. 04CA107, 2005-Ohio-3542, ¶ 21 (“[W]e find the 
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words used by appellant, coupled with his actions and out of control attitude, were 

‘fighting words’ or a threat to do physical violence.”). 

{¶30} T.W. argues that her threats did not constitute disorderly conduct 

because she was restrained and presently unable to carry them out. However, R.C. 

2917.11(A)(2) does not require the offender to be capable of fulfilling the 

threatened action, but only to cause “inconvenience, annoyance, or alarm,” which 

the officers testified occurred here. As a result, there is competent, credible 

evidence supporting T.W.’s delinquency for persistent disorderly conduct and a 

reasonable trier of fact could have found the essential elements of the crime 

proven beyond a reasonable doubt. 

{¶31} T.W.’s third assignment of error is, therefore, overruled. 

{¶32} Having found no error prejudicial to the appellant herein in the 

particulars assigned and argued, we affirm the judgment of the juvenile court. 

Judgment Affirmed 

WILLAMOWSKI, J., concurs. 

ROGERS, J., concurs in Judgment Only. 

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