1 OFFICE OF HEARINGS 2 3 U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION

4 In the matter of: 5 AERO TECH, LLC. No. FAA-2016-4270 6 -------------------------) 7 8 9 TELEPHONIC PRETRIAL CONFERENCE

10 Tuesday, August 16, 2016 11 1:00 p.m. 12 The Honorable Douglas M. Rawald 13 Administrative Law Judge 14 15 ON BEHALF OF THE FAA: 16 NO APPEARANCE. 17 18 ON BEHALF OF THE RESPONDENT: 19 RANDY KNUDSON, ESQ. 20 21 ALSO PRESENT: Kevin Sipe 22 23 24 Reported telephonicallyby: 25 Christine Edwards, CER

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2 3 4 JUDGE RAWALD: Let's go ahead and go on 5 the record. 6 This isAdministrative Law Judge Doug 7 Rawald, and this is the prehearing conference in 8 the case ofAero Tech, LLC, Docket Number 9 FAA-2016-4270. The date is August 16th, 2016, 10 and it's 1:00 p.m. eastern time. 11 On the call is, on behalf of the 12 Respondent's counsel, Mr. Stephen Doerr, is 13 Mr. Knudson, is appearing on his behalf. The 14 FAA attorneyhas not appeared on this case, 15 Mr. Kyle Lomazow, nor anyone on his behalf. I'm 16 also joined inmy office by a legal intern, 17 Mr. Kevin Sipe. 18 I find that because the government 19 counsel is not here, he has waived his right to 20 a stay of this discussion orprehearingmatters, 21 and letme turn to Mr. Knudson. 22 Mr. Knudson, are you familiar with this 23 case or are you just calling inbecause 24 Mr. Doerr was not available? 25 MR. DOERR: Your Honor, let me


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1 represent to the Court that our office can't 2 find any indication of a notice

-- that we 3 received notice of this hearing. We are 4 conscientious and good lawyers, and we don't 5 miss hearings unless there's some particular 6 reason 7 JUDGE RAWALD: I may not have done a 8 16. I issued an initial procedural order which 3 

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9 had, in Part D, a prehearing conference date set 10 for August 16th, 2016, at 1:00 p.m. eastern 11 time, with instructions how to call in. 12 So, that same memo also asked for a 13 proposed litigation schedule to be providedby 14 the parties, which the parties did respond to. 15 So, it looks like both parties did receive the 16 order and responded to it

-- 17 MR. KNUDSON: Yes, sir. 18 JUDGE RAWALD:

-- but did not observe 19 the fact that there was a prehearing conference 20 required to discuss the memo that they 21 submitted. 22 So, do you have that order I'm 23 referring to, Mr. Knudson? 24 25 MR. KNUDSON: I'massuming that I do, Your Honor. I'mnot familiar with the file, and


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4 ahead and do this, then, since really you're not 5 prepared to speak about the case either. I will 6 go ahead and issue a notice to show cause to 7 Mr. Lomazow, asking him why he did not appear 8 for the call. 9 I will note that you appeared for the 10 call. And then we will reschedule the call for 11 a future date after I hearback from Mr. Lomazow 12 about why the Government decided not to appear 13 for the call today. 14 We will take it fromthere, but I will 15 note that you did appear on behalf of your 16 client, and for whatever reason we're unaware 17 of, but, in fact, the phone call was scheduled 18 for today. 19 Anything else, Mr. Knudson? 20 21 22 MR. KNUDSON: Thank you, Your Honor. JUDGE RAWALD: Okay. I appreciate your time today. Please let Mr. Doerr know that this 23 was an order inmy initial procedural order, so 24 he should look for that, andwe will issue that 25 order, and that's all. We will go ahead and go


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1 off the record. Thank you. 2 3 MR. KNUDSON: Thank you, sir. (Whereupon, at 3:14 a.m., the 4 telephonic hearing was adjourned.) 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

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1 2 3 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

4 I, Christine Edwards, do hereby certify 5 that the foregoing telephonic proceedings were 6 recorded byme via digital audio recording and 7 reduced to typewriting undermy supervision; 8 that I am neither counsel for, related to, nor 9 employed by any of the parties to the action in 10 which these proceedings were transcribed; and 6 

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11 further, that I am not a relative or employee of 12 any attorney or counsel employed by the parties 13 hereto, nor financially or otherwise interested 14 in the outcome of the action. 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 

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