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· 2 · 3 · · · · · · U.S. ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY · 4 · 5 · 6 · ·RECEIVING PUBLIC COMMENTS ON EPA'S PROPOSED PSD PERMIT · 7 · 8 · 9 · · · · · · · · · FOR THE MCELMO CREEK FLARE 10 11 12 · · · · · · · · · · · · PUBLIC HEARING 13 14 15 · · · · · · · · · · ·NOVEMBER 20, 2014 16 17 18 · · · · · · · · · · · · ANETH, UTAH 19 20 21 22 23 24 25· 1 · · THE FOLLOWING PROCEEDINGS WERE ENTERED IN THE RECORD:

· 2 · 3 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Well, good · 4 · · evening, everyone. · This hearing is now in session. · 5 · · · · · · · · Before I get started with my opening · 6 · · statement, I want to introduce Ms. Joanna Austin- · 7 · ·Manygoats, who is here to provide Dine` translation for · 8 · · the public hearing. · This is public hearing on EPA's · 9 · ·proposed PSD Permit for the McElmo Creek Flare. 10 · · · · · · · · What's going to wind up happening is Ms. 11 · ·Manygoats is going to -- I'm going to give a portion of 12 · ·my opening statement then she will do the translation, 13 · · and we'll kind of go back and forth. · She will also be 14 · · translating Shaheerah Kelly, who you see here to my 15 · · left, will be giving a short presentation. · She will be 16 · · translating the presentation. 17 · · · · · · · · And then I asked anyone who would like to 18 · ·give a public comment in Dine` to please let Ms. 19 · ·Manygoats know so that she can be prepared to do so, to 20 · ·do the translation. · Otherwise we will just proceed in 21 · · English. 22 · · · · · · · · My name is Steven Jawgiel, I'm an attorney 23 · · from EPA Region 9 and I'm serving as the Public Hearing 24 · ·Officer tonight in this hearing, it's a comment hearing. 25 · · · · · · · · You will have the opportunity to submit· 1 · · comments either orally or in writing or both, actually.

· 2 · ·And I will go through the process of how you can submit · 3 · · a written comment. · And like I mentioned earlier, if you · 4 · ·would like to submit an oral comment, please fill out a · 5 · · Speaker Card on the back table in the lobby and the · 6 · · cards will come to me and I will go ahead and call these · 7 · · off in the order that I receive them. · 8 · · · · · · · · In case you don't know, probably most of · 9 · ·you do, the bathrooms are in the lobby, so if you exit 10 · · the room here to right, and then on the left-hand side 11 · · are the restrooms. · And then there's an exit door to my 12 · · right here, and there's also an exit door in the back of 13 · · the room on the right-hand side. 14 · · · · · · · · I would like to go ahead and introduce some 15 · · of the folks that are here with me. · We have Gerardo 16 · ·Rios, who is the Chief of the Air Permits Office of EPA 17 · ·Region 9. · I've already introduced Shaheerah Kelly, 18 · ·who's also with the Air Permits Office at EPA Region 9. 19 · ·Roberto Gutierrez, who's also in the back. · All these 20 · ·people can help you with information. 21 · · · · · · · · I know there was an information session 22 · ·beforehand, but if you have a need to gain additional 23 · · information, please feel free to contact them. 24 · · · · · · · · And I also have Nan here up front, who is 25 · · an EPA contractor and she's assisting us with the· 1 · · logistics of the hearing tonight. · I've already

· 2 · · introduced Joanna Manygoats, who is our interpreter. · 3 · ·And to my right is Keith, who is our Certified Court · 4 · ·Reporter, he will be transcribing and recording · 5 · · everything that is said in this hearing tonight. · 6 · · · · · · · · So with that, sometimes people are not used · 7 · · to working with a court reporter. · I ask that you speak · 8 · · clearly and slowly, which will assist Keith in · 9 · · transcribing whatever you say accurately for the 10 · · official record. 11 · · · · · · · · The other thing I also ask people is if 12 · ·we're in a situation, not to talk over each other. I 13 · ·will try my best not to -- you know, when the time is up 14 · · to wait for a pause in your speaking to tell you that 15 · · the time is up. · And I'd just ask that people don't talk 16 · · over each other during the hearing because it becomes 17 · ·very, very difficult for Keith to actually capture what 18 · · the people saying while two people are talking at one 19 · · time. 20 · · · · · · · · And I guess before I continue on with the 21 · · opening statement and discuss more of the logistics of 22 · · the hearing tonight, we're going to just turn our 23 · · attention over to Shaheerah Kelly, who is going to give 24 · · a brief -- oh, I'm sorry. · I forgot. · Ms. Manygoats is 25 · ·going to go ahead and translate what I've been saying.· 1 · ·Then we will move over to Shaheerah and we'll continue

· 2 · · on with the presentation. · 3 · · · · · · · · · · · (Translation of remarks.) · 4 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Thank you, Ms. · 5 · ·Manygoats. · 6 · · · · · · · · So we're going to go ahead and lower the · 7 · · screen and then Shaheerah will give her presentation. · 8 · · · · · · · · · · · SHAHEERAH KELLY: · Hi, can everyone · 9 · ·hear me? · Great. 10 · · · · · · · · Good evening. · My name is Shaheerah Kelly, 11 · · as Steve mentioned, and I will be giving you an overview 12 · · of the Environmental Protection Agency's action for the 13 · ·McElmo Creek Unit Main Flare. 14 · · · · · · · · First I'll start with EPA's action, what 15 · · are we doing. · We are amending the Clean Air Act 16 · · Prevention of Significant Deterioration permit, or PSD 17 · ·permit for the McElmo Creek Unit facility in two ways. 18 · · · · · · · · First we are adding pollution limits and 19 · · other terms and conditions as required by a court order 20 · · federal Consent Decree for the existing Main Flare at 21 · · the site. 22 · · · · · · · · Second, we are removing and updating other 23 · · requirements in the permit due to equipment that has 24 · ·been shut down and removed from the site. 25 · · · · · · · · Other than the replacement of a fixed speed· 1 · · fan with a variable speed fan to provide better

· 2 · ·pollution control at the Main Flare, this permit action · 3 · ·does not authorize any new construction or changes to · 4 · · existing equipment at the site. · 5 · · · · · · · · · · · · (Translation of remarks.) · 6 · · · · · · · · · · · SHAHEERAH KELLY: · Our action is · 7 · · focused primarily on the Main Flare. · The Main Flare is · 8 · · an existing large flaring device, it is used to use burn · 9 · ·waste gases from various sources at the McElmo Creek 10 · ·Unit oilfield. 11 · · · · · · · · The McElmo Creek Unit oilfield is primarily 12 · · involved in crude petroleum oil production, and it is 13 · · one of four oilfield units in the greater Aneth oilfield 14 · · on the Navajo Nation Reservation located near here in 15 · ·Aneth, here in Utah. 16 · · · · · · · · I have a map here showing the four oilfield 17 · ·units, and McElmo Creek is on the far right. 18 · · · · · · · · The McElmo Creek Unit oilfield includes 19 · · field operations and a gas compression plant. 20 · · · · · · · · The field operations consist of about 90 21 · ·producing wells where crude oil is recovered, and the 22 · ·gas compression plant is used to support recovery of 23 · · crude oil in the McElmo Creek Unit oilfield. · And this 24 · · is where the Main Flare is located, at the gas 25 · · compression plant.· 1 · · · · · · · · · · · · (Translation of remarks.)

· 2 · · · · · · · · · · · SHAHEERAH KELLY: · EPA's analysis of · 3 · ·what a permit includes is our determination for the Best · 4 · ·Available Control Technology, or BACT, for the Main · 5 · · Flare, which is used to minimize flaring. · 6 · · · · · · · · BACT concludes for this action limitations · 7 · · for controlling emissions of sulfur dioxide, nitrogen · 8 · · oxides, carbon monoxide and volatile organic compounds. · 9 · ·The limit includes 60 tons per year of sulfur dioxide, 10 · · 13.4 tons per year, about 13 tons per year of nitrogen 11 · · oxides, 73 tons per year of carbon monoxide and 95, 12 · · about 95 tons per year of volatile organic compounds. 13 · · · · · · · · I do want to mention that the flare 14 · ·previously had no emission limits, in this action, 15 · · through a Consent Decree, EPA is requiring flares stay 16 · ·below these limits. 17 · · · · · · · · It also includes operating a flare using 18 · · air-assist technology. · Operating the flare to ensure 19 · · that the net heating value for dilution is greater than 20 · · or equal to 24.4 BTU per feet squared, which is a 21 · ·measure of complete combustion. · Operating and 22 · ·maintaining the Main Flare in accordance with EPA's 23 · · federal flare standards at 40 CFR 60.18. · And lastly, 24 · · following other operations and maintenance, root cause, 25 · · and corrective action requirements for flaring events.· 1 · · · · · · · · · · · · (Translation of remarks.)

· 2 · · · · · · · · · · · SHAHEERAH KELLY: · The last slide is · 3 · · on air quality impacts. · Once again, I want to reiterate · 4 · · that our changes only update the permit of Concent · 5 · ·Decree requirements and to remove from the permit · 6 · · equipment no longer at the facility. · 7 · · · · · · · · These changes actually strengthen the · 8 · · requirements for the flare by adding conditions to · 9 · · assure that the facility meets emissions and operational 10 · · requirements. · Regarding air quality, EPA analyzed the 11 · · emission limitations, the impacts that the emission 12 · · limitations would have on existing air quality in the 13 · · area. · And we concluded that the emission limitations 14 · ·will met EPA's national ambient air quality impacts, 15 · ·which is · generally protective of public health and 16 · ·welfare. 17 · · · · · · · · And the emission limitations are not 18 · · expected to adversely impact the air quality in any 19 · ·designated federal Class I areas within 200 kilometers 20 · · of the site. · Two hundred kilometers is about 124 miles, 21 · ·which is according to EPA's regulations. 22 · · · · · · · · Class I areas are national parks and 23 · ·wilderness areas designated by EPA. · And for this site 24 · · they include the Mesa Verde, Mesa Verde National Park, 25 · ·which is closest to the site, about 38 miles or 60· 1 · ·kilometers; the Canyonlands National Park; the Arches

· 2 · ·National Park, as well as the Capitol Reef National · 3 · · Park. · 4 · · · · · · · · · · · · (Translation of remarks.) · 5 · · · · · · · · · · · SHAHEERAH KELLY: · At this time this · 6 · · concludes the presentation for the McElmo Creek Unit · 7 · ·Main Flare. · 8 · · · · · · · · · · · · (Translation of remarks.) · 9 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · We're just going 10 · · to go off the record for just a moment just to take this 11 · · equipment down, put a mike up here, and then we will 12 · ·proceed with the comment section of the hearing after I 13 · ·make a couple more comments. · So we're off the record 14 · · right now. 15 · · · · · · · · · · · (Off the record from 6:28 p.m. until 16 · · 6:30 p.m.) 17 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Okay, we're going 18 · · to go back on the record. 19 · · · · · · · · I'm just going to finish up with a few 20 · ·preliminary comments and then we're going to get going 21 · ·with the actual submission of the comments. 22 · · · · · · · · First of all, I want to also thank the 23 · ·Aneth Chapter for hosting us tonight and assisting us 24 · ·with the equipment. · We really appreciate the use of the 25 · · space and the hospitality that everyone has shown us, we· 1 · ·greatly appreciate that.

· 2 · · · · · · · · For the purpose of tonight's hearing, it's · 3 · · for EPA to obtain oral and written comments on the PSD, · 4 · · the proposed PSD permit. · EPA will not be providing · 5 · · responses to the comments during this hearing. · EPA's · 6 · · responses to comments will be available at the time EPA · 7 · · issues the final decision on the PSD permit. · 8 · · · · · · · · This hearing is a formal legal proceeding. · 9 · ·Your oral and written comments will become part of EPA's 10 · · official record in this matter. · EPA will consider all 11 · · of your oral and written comments related to EPA's 12 · · current proposed action when making its final decision 13 · · on the permit for this project. · You may submit, as I 14 · ·mentioned before, you may submit oral comments, written 15 · · comments or both. · If you would like to submit written 16 · · comments while you are here today, please feel free to 17 · ·do so. · I believe there's a box in the back, in the back 18 · · of the room to your right, right before you exit where 19 · ·you can actually deposit those written comments, and 20 · · those will be collected and considered by those making 21 · · the decision on the final permit. 22 · · · · · · · · Written comments submitted by US Mail must 23 · ·be postmarked on or before, November 20, 2014. · Written 24 · · comments submitted by email must be submitted by the end 25 · · of the business day, November 20, 2014.· 1 · · · · · · · · Ms. Manygoats, if you would like to go

· 2 · · ahead and translate that section. · 3 · · · · · · · · · · · · (Translation of remarks.) · 4 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Regarding my · 5 · · role, so everyone is very clear, as the Hearing Officer · 6 · · I will not be involved in assessing any of the comments · 7 · · or making any decisions on the permit. · My sole role is · 8 · · to make sure that everyone in the room who wants to give · 9 · · an oral comment tonight has an equal opportunity to do 10 · · so and to manage this hearing so that everyone does have 11 · · an opportunity to submit oral comments, if they so 12 · · choose. 13 · · · · · · · · · · · · (Translation of remarks.) 14 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · There is a 15 · · registration table out in the back, again, toward the, 16 · · right outside the exit there. · You do not need to 17 · · register to give an oral comment in tonight's hearing, 18 · ·however, if you would like to receive notice of EPA's 19 · ·permit decision for this project, and to receive a 20 · · response on your comments, please complete a 21 · · registration form and Roberto or Gerardo can assist you 22 · ·with that. 23 · · · · · · · · If you wish to, I mentioned before, if you 24 · ·wish to give an oral comment, please fill out a Speaker 25 · · Card and I'll start calling these off momentarily.· 1 · ·Before you start giving your comment, I will ask you to

· 2 · · just state your name for the record when you give your · 3 · · comments. · But please note that the comment, as well as · 4 · ·your name, will appear in the official record. · 5 · · · · · · · · · · · · (Translation of remarks.) · 6 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Initially the · 7 · · speakers, each of the speakers will be provided five · 8 · ·minutes to submit their oral comments. · We have a · 9 · · speaker timer on the table, which you'll see when you 10 · ·get up to the podium. · It has three different colors on 11 · · it. · It will turn green when you begin your comment, and 12 · · then it will turn yellow when there's one minute 13 · · remaining, and then it will turn red when the five 14 · ·minutes are up. · At that time, if you continue going 15 · · forward, I'll probably try to find a good spot to kind 16 · · of nudge in and just ask you to complete your comment. 17 · · · · · · · · And I understand we don't have a lot of 18 · ·people here tonight, so what we will do is I will go 19 · · through the Speaker Cards in the order that I've 20 · · received them, and then I'll go through them again if 21 · · someone wants an additional five minutes, I will provide 22 · · them an additional five minutes to add additional oral 23 · · comments. · And then after that, I'll just ask you to 24 · ·please submit, if you have any additional comments you 25 · ·want to make, please submit those in writing.· 1 · · · · · · · · So you will likely have an opportunity, if

· 2 · ·you wish, to have up to ten minutes to make oral · 3 · · comments tonight, in two five-minute slots. · 4 · · · · · · · · And you would also see that Nan has cards, · 5 · · and she'll raise the cards in addition to the lights, · 6 · · just so you're very clear where you stand regard to the · 7 · · timing, when there's one minute remaining. · And I think · 8 · · she may even have a card that says "stop", and that just · 9 · ·means that five minutes are up. 10 · · · · · · · · · · · · (Translation of remarks.) 11 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Thank you, Ms. 12 · ·Manygoats. 13 · · · · · · · · So we will proceed with the actual oral 14 · · comments. · And I thank Ms. Manygoats. · Unless someone 15 · · requests Dine` translation, that will conclude the Dine` 16 · · translation for the evening. · But, like I said, if you 17 · ·wish to have, if you like to speak in Dine , please let 18 · ·us know and Ms. Manygoats will translate in English for 19 · · the Court Reporter. 20 · · · · · · · · With that I'm going to call the first 21 · · speaker up to the microphone. · Melvin Capitan. · Thank 22 · ·you for being here tonight, and thanks for your 23 · ·patience. 24 · · · · · · · · Also, folks, I'm sure everyone has seen, we 25 · · also have some light refreshments on the side of the· 1 · · room, feel free to help yourself.

· 2 · · · · · · · · · · · MELVIN CAPITAN: · Good evening. · My · 3 · ·name is Melvin Capitan representing the Aneth Red Mesa · 4 · ·Mexican Water Chapter community. · 5 · · · · · · · · I'm happy to be part of this hearing. · I'm · 6 · ·happy you're here. · We never realized or expected your · 7 · · organization to come out to this area in the lifetime · 8 · · I've been here. · It's good to see and hear from you. · 9 · · · · · · · · As you know, Utah is ranked as the 11th 10 · ·producing oilfield out here in production. · There's 11 · · 11,000 wells in the State of Utah, and 2,000 of that is 12 · ·here. 13 · · · · · · · · The community is concerned about your 14 · ·particulate matter from this Main Flare. · You know, 15 · ·you're telling us that it's going to be modified, will 16 · ·be under your rulings, and so forth, under the federal 17 · · flares standard that is in Class I. 18 · · · · · · · · We in the community feel that it's about 19 · · time that this sort of commitment had been implemented. 20 · · It's been long overdue. · We've been suffering from this 21 · · ambient air you're talking about, the particulate 22 · ·matter, for the past 50 years. · And now that the 23 · ·government is taking action to reduce all of that, 24 · · that's a plus for the government and for the oil 25 · · companies. · They've been here so long that they are· 1 · ·being regulated to do what needs to be done to help the

· 2 · · community. · That's been -- that they have been haunted · 3 · ·by them for the past 50 years. · 4 · · · · · · · · You know, more of, more of that, we'd like · 5 · · to see more of your trainers or instructors to come out · 6 · · and teach the Navajo what this is all about. · I know · 7 · · it's hard to translate technical terms, but, you know, · 8 · · it's better for them to understand where all, where this · 9 · · is coming from and where's it going to, leading to. 10 · · · · · · · · The question I have is that, yes, this is a 11 · ·modification and, and new equipment that's going to 12 · ·used. · Considering the, the constituents, the 13 · · constituents that you guys are going to be testing for, 14 · ·how are we going to be regulated, or how, and who's 15 · ·going to do it, who's going to oversee it. · Are we going 16 · · to have monitoring wells -- not monitoring wells, air 17 · ·monitoring devices surrounding this equipment. 18 · · · · · · · · Who's in charge of taking the samples? · Is 19 · · this going to be a 24/7 monitoring device that will keep 20 · ·going and be ongoing so the filters can be changed 21 · ·weekly and do a testing, a laboratory testing done 22 · · quarterly, yearly, biyearly, or what, you know. · We'd 23 · · like to hear that from the gas, gas and oil people. 24 · · · · · · · · You know, we have over six tanks, six tank, 25 · · six tank batteries out here over 12 satellites, 20, 50· 1 · ·headers, 13 flare stations and 2 CO2 plants. · I know

· 2 · · this is part of the hearing, what the hearing's about, · 3 · ·but that's what we're looking at around here. · 4 · · · · · · · · We've been fed up with all this air quality · 5 · · issues for the last 50 years. · And we're happy that EPA · 6 · · is finally stepping in. · Navajo EPA, we contact Navajo · 7 · · EPA, they're not as stringent as U.S. EPA is. Their · 8 · · excuses are; we can't make it out here, we don't have · 9 · · the funding to come out here to investigate, 10 · ·pre-investigate and see what is going on. · Spend a week 11 · · out here with us. 12 · · · · · · · · So that's what we're asking the Navajo 13 · ·Nation to help us with, but we've been ignored for the 14 · · last 50 years up here. · We're looking at, you know, 15 · ·having other entities, like yourself and the state, to 16 · · come in and help the people, the community here to 17 · · address these issues. · Not only air quality, but for 18 · ·drinking, Safe Drinking Water Act, Clear Water Act, 19 · · solid waste act, you know, underground injection act. 20 · ·You know, those are the things that are really 21 · ·deteriorating our community and our vegetation and our 22 · · land out here. 23 · · · · · · · · And this is a start, a kick start for us, I 24 · · think. · We're going to start inviting more and more 25 · ·people to, your entity, your Region 9 and the Navajo· 1 · ·Nation to wake up and listen to us.

· 2 · · · · · · · · And then I'm happy that we're coming to the · 3 · · area, even these air quality. · Where are we sitting at? · 4 · ·We'd like to know all of that. · 5 · · · · · · · · I appreciate your time, and thank you. · 6 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Thank you. · 7 · ·Again, I'm going to rotate through the cards, Mr. · 8 · · Capitan, and then if you choose, if you want to come · 9 · ·back up and give additional statements, you'll have an 10 · · opportunity to do so. 11 · · · · · · · · The next speaker is Patricia Flynn. 12 · · · · · · · · · · · PATRICK FLYNN: · That will be my 13 · · sister. 14 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Oh. · Oh, I'm 15 · · sorry, Patrick. · Mr. Flynn, I apologize, I misread the 16 · · card. 17 · · · · · · · · · · · PATRICK FLYNN: · That's okay. · Poor 18 · ·writing, I'm sure, on my part. 19 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · No, it's poor 20 · · eyesight on my part. · But thank you. · Thank you for 21 · ·being here tonight. 22 · · · · · · · · · · · PATRICK FLYNN: · My name is Patrick 23 · · Flynn, and I'm the Vice President of Governmental 24 · ·Affairs with Resolute Natural Resources, who are the 25 · · operators responsible for three of four units comprising· 1 · · this greater Aneth oilfield.

· 2 · · · · · · · · I thank the EPA for being here. · I also · 3 · · thank the Chapter and the folks in the community who are · 4 · ·here, we appreciate your, as well as the Navajo EPA for · 5 · ·being here as part of this process. · 6 · · · · · · · · My comments will be brief, I hope less than · 7 · · the cards will allow me. · We have provided written · 8 · · comments to EPA today, which go into much more detail. · 9 · · I just want to hit a few very high points in support of 10 · · this process. 11 · · · · · · · · We do very much support and will work with 12 · · EPA to get, not only this amended PSD permit formalized 13 · · and finalized, but also to then move on with both U.S. 14 · · EPA and Navajo EPA to complete the part 71 permitting 15 · ·process of this Consent Decree and finally to terminate 16 · · it. 17 · · · · · · · · I think it's very important to know, as has 18 · ·been had discussed in Shaheerah's presentation, that 19 · · this is not reflecting any change in process, any change 20 · · of equipment, or any change in air emissions at this 21 · · facility. · The amendment to the PSD is formalizing, 22 · · simply, the requirements, the emission limits and other 23 · · operating standards that have part of the Consent Decree 24 · · since we assumed operations in 2006. 25 · · · · · · · · Briefly, I want to just reiterate that my· 1 · · company, Resolute, is committed not only to the greater

· 2 · ·Aneth field but to this community. · We're a member of · 3 · · this community, we employ nearly a hundred of its · 4 · · residents directly, and several hundred of the local · 5 · · residents as contractors. · We are the main employer in · 6 · · this part of the Navajo Nation. · 7 · · · · · · · · Since we've assumed control of the McElmo · 8 · · Creek Unit, and the Aneth Unit about a year before, · 9 · ·we've invested nearly three hundred and fifty million 10 · ·dollars in capital upgrades to improve the operations, 11 · · to improve environmental performance and to increase 12 · ·production. · And this Main Flare and the McElmo Creek 13 · ·Unit, and the permit that we're talking about tonight, 14 · · are a key part of that capital upgrade and investment in 15 · · the facilities. 16 · · · · · · · · We've increased our production out here 17 · · from 7500 barrels a day, when we took over, to over 18 · · 12,000 barrels a day. · This is a 50-year old oilfield. 19 · ·And because of the money and the effort and the 20 · · commitment to improvements we've made, we've been able 21 · · to turn a field that would have been abandoned within 22 · · the last couple of years into one that will continue to 23 · ·be provide revenues to the Navajo people and employment 24 · · to the local Navajo work force for at least the next 30 25 · ·years.· 1 · · · · · · · · With regard to the McElmo Creek facility,

· 2 · · one of our comments notes that we have actually added · 3 · · compression to the Main Flare facility at the McElmo · 4 · · Creek central facility, the purpose of which is to limit · 5 · · the volume of gas that's flared. · The flare only runs, · 6 · · typically, if the compressors don't. · We don't want to · 7 · · flare gas. · We have an economic incentive not to flare · 8 · ·gas. · This is gas that we sell if we don't flare it. · 9 · ·And CO2 that we have to purchase in order to run our 10 · · oilfields. · So we have no desire and no benefit from 11 · · flaring. 12 · · · · · · · · So we have spent five million dollars early 13 · · on at the McElmo Creek facility adding new compression 14 · · and upgrading the facility to try to reduce the flaring 15 · · to the extent practicable. 16 · · · · · · · · And, in fact, if you look at the volume of 17 · ·gas that was flared at this Main Flare in 2006 when we 18 · · took over from the prior operator, and compare to today, 19 · ·you will see that our volumes have gone down 37 percent. 20 · · So that's a significant milestone in environmental 21 · · improvement that is intrinsic to what we're talking 22 · · about in this PSD permit, and is a reflection of our 23 · · commitment to improving environmental performance. 24 · · · · · · · · The other thing I would like to point out, 25 · ·which is not in our comments but is relevant to this· 1 · · community, and to the EPA, is that the emissions that we

· 2 · · are allowed within the Consent Decree, which are now · 3 · ·becoming part of the PDS permit, and ultimately will · 4 · ·become part of the operating permit, we're operating at · 5 · · a fraction of those allowable limits. · That is because · 6 · ·we aren't flaring as much. · 7 · · · · · · · · So the current emissions that we have on a · 8 · · rolling annual basis are 20 to 25 percent of what we · 9 · ·would be allowed to do under both the Consent Decree and 10 · · the PDS permit, and in theory, ultimately the operating 11 · ·permit. 12 · · · · · · · · So we've made improvements. · We think this 13 · ·permit is one part of the step towards continuing and to 14 · · codify that in a regulatory fashion and to improve our 15 · · operations further. · And we support your efforts and are 16 · ·willing to help in any way we can. 17 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Thank you, 18 · · Patrick. 19 · · · · · · · · · · · PATRICK FLYNN: · Thank you. 20 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Thank you for 21 · ·being here tonight. · Thank you for your comments. 22 · · · · · · · · And I have one more Speaker Card at this 23 · ·moment. · Lambert Sandoval, Jr. · Please feel free to come 24 · ·up to the mic. · Mr. Sandoval, thank you for being here 25 · · tonight.· 1 · · · · · · · · · · · LAMBERT SANDOVAL, JR: · Thank you.

· 2 · · · · · · · · Hello, my name is Lambert Sandoval and I'm · 3 · · residing here within the Aneth Unit, living there next · 4 · · to the facility area. · 5 · · · · · · · · And I got a comment, and my concern is · 6 · · talking about EPA. · Not just the flare that it is, but · 7 · · satellites, they're some satellites within the area and · 8 · · some tank batteries. · They release some of those · 9 · ·pop-offs with some hydrogen sulfite fumes, things like 10 · · that. · It would be nice if that, if those are being 11 · ·monitoring like annually or monthly or quarterly to 12 · · inform our community that lives within the area. 13 · · · · · · · · And I was hoping to see more of this 14 · · community that live within the area, within the facility 15 · · area to be here. · But I sure appreciate for you guys 16 · ·being here and what you're doing. · It will probably be, 17 · · if you give us more heads up, and heads up for the oil 18 · · company of what's going on and what people's concerns. 19 · · It would be nice to have more. · And I think we should 20 · ·have more of this later on in the future for, to be 21 · ·more, like hearing some more comments out of these 22 · · residential people. 23 · · · · · · · · It would be nice, not just there, but 24 · · there's some flow lines or transfer lines that are 25 · ·deemed pretty well corroded and pretty well worn out and· 1 · · some of those are broke loose, or break apart, and those

· 2 · · fumes, they can come up just like that, unexpectedly. · 3 · · · · · · · · And so living within this oilfield, being · 4 · · there day and night, now, it's kind of like it's · 5 · ·hazardous and be more like aware oftenly. · Sometimes you · 6 · ·don't get to sleep more nights because we're kind of · 7 · · like being more aware of the hazardous side of our · 8 · · areas. · 9 · · · · · · · · So that's all I got for now. · I'm hoping to 10 · · see more of the local residents of the area. · And again, 11 · · thank you. 12 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Thank you for 13 · ·being here tonight, Mr. Sandoval, and thank you for your 14 · · comments. 15 · · · · · · · · Right now I don't have any additional 16 · · Speaker Cards. · Do any of the previous speakers want to 17 · ·give any additional comments at this moment? 18 · · · · · · · · Mr. Capitan, please feel free. · We'll do 19 · · another five minutes. 20 · · · · · · · · · · · MELVIN CAPITAN: · I'm back again. 21 · ·Okay. · I just want to repeat myself on what the 22 · · emissions that they will be testing for. · The 23 · · communities are uncomfortable with who's going to be the 24 · · regulatory agency to watch over the new flaring system. 25 · · Even though it was manufacturally set, but how often· 1 · · it's going to be recalibrated, and so forth.

· 2 · · · · · · · · The same with the air monitoring station. · 3 · ·We'd like to see that to make sure they're recalibrated · 4 · · and give us some information on what it's reading during · 5 · · the different seasonal of the year. · You know, most of · 6 · · the time, the summer and winter are the worse time, it's · 7 · · so calm and quiet that, you know, the air settles down · 8 · · into the valley and then into the rivers. · 9 · · · · · · · · Combining that with what's coming down from 10 · ·up the river, from the power plant, the sulfur dioxide, 11 · ·you know, binding together, is that deadly, I don't 12 · ·know. · We'd like to hear some more scientist talk about 13 · · that. · You know, this PM, particulate matter 10 versus 14 · ·particulate matter 2.5, they're so small they can travel 15 · · so many miles, and we're saying 200 and some miles, or 16 · · 200 kilometers, you know, some of these particulates can 17 · · travel hundreds, 500, a thousand miles before settling 18 · ·down, air mist or particles, you know. 19 · · · · · · · · The other thing that I bring up is, like I 20 · · said, we need more educational outreach, community 21 · · awareness. · Have we been affected the last 50 years? · Is 22 · · it acute, or is it a chronic thing that we're looking 23 · · at? · Will this reduce that? · I don't know, you know. 24 · · · · · · · · The other thing is, like I said, combine 25 · · oil and gas and the coal firing plant up river, combine· 1 · · it together, we're living in a really delicate,

· 2 · · low-lying area that the community is getting more · 3 · ·worried and worried every day. · 4 · · · · · · · · The older, elderly folks, kids with · 5 · ·bronchitis, and so forth, you know, those are the least · 6 · · individuals that are going to be hurt by it. · Then us, · 7 · ·us, young kids, young, young men that have the healthy · 8 · ·body compared to the old body, the young body, you know. · 9 · ·Those are things that the community is worrying about. 10 · · · · · · · · Looking at the well head, like this 11 · ·gentleman said, from the well head to the pipeline to 12 · · the satellite to the tanks to the headers to the main 13 · · flare, you know, how much of that emissions is 14 · ·happening? · Not only are we talking about the sulfate 15 · ·dioxide, nitrate, we'd like to see some detailed 16 · · readings. · Benzene, tholin, ethylbenzene, xylene, you 17 · ·know, those are the things that's coming out of this oil 18 · ·gas activity that the community is kind of, are afraid 19 · · for the past long, long period of time, that these need 20 · · to be addressed, how we're going to minimize all of 21 · · that? 22 · · · · · · · · What plans are in place for us? · We don't 23 · ·hear anything until some hearing like this. · We hear it 24 · · from the upper echelon that this is what's going to 25 · ·happen. · They need to continue informing the community· 1 · · in this greater Aneth oilfield and surrounding area with

· 2 · · all the information, all the studies, all the results so · 3 · ·we understand here for the people to, to grasp that · 4 · · information and make it understandable for them, all the · 5 · · technical terms, you know. · 6 · · · · · · · · Those are some of the things that I wanted · 7 · · just to bring up, you know. · 8 · · · · · · · · It said using air quality index to · 9 · ·determine and make a recommendation of air quality 10 · · control and enforcement. · Where are all the stations? 11 · ·Who is going to control it? · No enforcement. · Navajo EPA 12 · ·not going to enforce it. · And is the U.S. EPA Region 9 13 · ·going to enforce that for us? · I don't know. · Nothing 14 · ·has been set in place since 1960 here in the communities 15 · · of Aneth, Red Mesa and Mexican Water. · And we would like 16 · · to see some changes. 17 · · · · · · · · And I'm happy again to come up for those 18 · · two, those three communities, and we appreciate your 19 · · time in coming down. · All of you that are here, we 20 · · appreciate you coming down to listen to us and the 21 · · community and the area. 22 · · · · · · · · Thank you. 23 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Again, thank you, 24 · ·we appreciate it. 25 · · · · · · · · Anyone else? · Would anyone else like to· 1 · ·make a comment at this time? · If not, we're going to go

· 2 · · ahead and go off record probably for about 15 minutes · 3 · · and, or until I receive a -- Oh. · Thank you, thank you · 4 · ·very much. · Bill Todachennie. · 5 · · · · · · · · · · · BILL TODACHENNIE: · Close enough, good · 6 · · enough. · 7 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · If you could · 8 · ·please state your name for the record. · 9 · · · · · · · · · · · BILL TODACHENNIE: · Thank you. · My 10 · ·name is Bill Todachennie, I'm the, one of the community, 11 · ·what do I call, native. 12 · · · · · · · · I appreciate your being here tonight. · The 13 · · only thing I'm wondering is are we going to have some 14 · ·kind of a follow-up with this meeting tonight, or are we 15 · · just going to have one time and there's nothing going to 16 · ·happen afterwards? · I just hope you're not migrating the 17 · · jet flume to New Mexico. · So. 18 · · · · · · · · One thing that I wanted to say, that we, I 19 · ·personally appreciate the Resolute that have been 20 · · employing the majority of the Navajos to work. · This is 21 · · a major income to the community. 22 · · · · · · · · The thing that I'm beginning to worry about 23 · · is that, how much of the impact does it have on 24 · ·vegetation on all this flare. · Unfortunately there was 25 · ·no study that was done before these were, been fired up· 1 · · and this is biggest impact that I would think so in the

· 2 · · community. · 3 · · · · · · · · The other thing is the, we have more, not · 4 · ·more, but occasionally there are gases that settle. I · 5 · ·know this is what we're talking of gas, but your · 6 · · interpreter said, excess oil is burning. · And I'm · 7 · ·getting a little bit of confusing myself. · Are we · 8 · · talking about gas or are we talking about oil that we're · 9 · ·burning? · I don't think we're burning any oil in the 10 · · area. · So this is on her part a -- I know these 11 · · interpretations are not easy. 12 · · · · · · · · The other only thing I want to bring out is 13 · · that the impact that it has on the community members. 14 · ·The majority, hopefully not a majority, the younger 15 · ·generation has a higher asthma problem. · Whether that 16 · ·has any contribute from this, I have no idea. · They seem 17 · · to be having more problem, have problems. · So. 18 · · · · · · · · Then again I just want to say thank you for 19 · ·being here tonight. 20 · · · · · · · · And as it's been expressed earlier, the 21 · ·Navajo Nation EPA does nothing for us. · They will not 22 · · even come forward and sit down and talk to us. · So, 23 · · again, I just want to appreciate. 24 · · · · · · · · I'm sorry I didn't have very much to say, 25 · ·however, I underlined some things that is in one of· 1 · ·your, your statement, it says, the "environmental

· 2 · · requirements from other federal, tribal or local laws · 3 · · are not included in EPA's proposed PSD permit." · And · 4 · · just slightly concern that you're going to do this on · 5 · · the Navajo Nation, why isn't the tribal law is not · 6 · · included? · That's a concern that I have. · 7 · · · · · · · · The other one, it says review the, EPA · 8 · · reviews the computer analyzing the prediction of the · 9 · · effects of the proposal on the PSD. · I'm not really sure 10 · ·what it means, but I think this is talking, what it is 11 · · saying is that the damage that they may do, and that 12 · · it's been mentioned, who is going to be doing the 13 · ·monitoring? · Who is going to enforce these things? 14 · ·That's another thing that we, we are wondering who does 15 · · that enforcement. · And how is it going to be? 16 · · · · · · · · And then again I ask you, are there going 17 · · to be any reports being submitted back to us, or is this 18 · · one-way street, that's it? 19 · · · · · · · · And again I want to say thank you. 20 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Thank you, Mr. 21 · ·Todachennie. · And thank you for your patience tonight, 22 · · too, I know you've been here for quite some time. 23 · · · · · · · · · · · JOANNA AUSTIN-MANYGOATS: · I just want 24 · · to make a correction, I've been misinterpreting the word 25 · · "Flare", (speaking Dinè ) is what I said. · And in the· 1 · ·definition of what is the Main Flare. · The Main Flare is

· 2 · · the existing device used to burn waste gases. · 3 · · · · · · · · · · · BILL TODACHENNIE: · Your · 4 · · interpretation is still that that stuff is all burning. · 5 · ·That's all it is. · 6 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Yeah, so, again, · 7 · · folks, for the Court Reporter's sake, because this is · 8 · · the point where I was -- again, it's fine if somebody · 9 · ·wants to make a comment about that. · I ask that you just 10 · ·go ahead and make a comment as a speaker. · Which, Mr. 11 · ·Todachennie you did, and we appreciate that. 12 · · · · · · · · I have one more Speaker Card. · Ryan Benn. 13 · ·Mr. Benn, thank you for being here tonight. 14 · · · · · · · · · · · RYAN BENN: · Thank you. · You can start 15 · · that thing now. · There you go. 16 · · · · · · · · Now I'm standing up here. 17 · · · · · · · · So my first question would be: Where did 18 · ·you come in from? 19 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · We came in from 20 · · San Francisco. 21 · · · · · · · · · · · RYAN BENN: · San Francisco, I've only 22 · ·been there once. 23 · · · · · · · · · · · NANISHKA ALBALADEJO: · North Carolina. 24 · · · · · · · · · · · RYAN BENN: · North Carolina, been 25 · · there once.· 1 · · · · · · · · Same place?

· 2 · · · · · · · · · · · SHAHEERAH KELLY: · Uh-huh. · 3 · · · · · · · · · · · RYAN BENN: · North Carolina, San · 4 · · Franscico. · 5 · · · · · · · · And you, sir? · 6 · · · · · · · · · · · THE COURT REPORTER: · Montrose, · 7 · · Colorado. · 8 · · · · · · · · · · · RYAN BENN: · See, you're closer. · I've · 9 · ·never been there, though. 10 · · · · · · · · So my question is: · If this goes into 11 · · effect and you go ahead and give them the permit, who's 12 · ·going to monitor it? · The monitoring of the flare is 13 · ·probably the main concern with people. 14 · · · · · · · · As you can see, there's only three or four 15 · ·members here from the community. · We did not get the 16 · · information saying, oh, there's going to be a meeting on 17 · · the 20th. · When you were going through the limitations 18 · · on when we can respond to certain things, through the 19 · ·mail, through email, I think we passed that time by the 20 · · time you said that. 21 · · · · · · · · So my question would be: · Why would we 22 · · trust you as a people when you come over and you tell 23 · ·us, this is safe. · This is going to help with the 24 · ·business. 25 · · · · · · · · He brought, he said they employ a lot of· 1 · ·people here. · Which, in actuality, is not true. · Forty

· 2 · ·percent of the people in this area are unemployed. · 3 · ·That's another issue. · 4 · · · · · · · · My issue here is: · Who is going to monitor · 5 · · this stuff? · Who's going to look after it? · Are you · 6 · ·going to come from North Carolina every week? · A lot of · 7 · ·driving, a lot of flying. · I can barely make it to work · 8 · · some days, and I'm nine miles down the road here. · 9 · · · · · · · · So when my community members come up here 10 · · and they say they have a fear of what might happen, what 11 · · can happen, because we can't see it being measured. · We 12 · ·have a monitoring system sitting out there, we don't 13 · ·know· · how often it's checked, how often it's cleaned, 14 · ·how often been updated, how often it's been 15 · ·maintenanced. · We have no idea. 16 · · · · · · · · If you had come, and anyone who knows about 17 · · this, had come to community and said, hey, we have a 18 · ·meeting on this date a month ago, then I think this room 19 · ·would be filled. · But with the conditions today, 20 · · everything was done really, really quick. · It's just on 21 · · the board, and I said, hey, let's go over there. · And we 22 · · only have four people here from the community. · So when 23 · ·we talk, you're not hearing the full story from the 24 · ·whole community. · You're hearing four people. 25 · · · · · · · · And if you're going to base your decision· 1 · · on that, I really don't think that when the EPA comes

· 2 · · out here, whether it's Navajo Nation, whether it's the · 3 · · state, whether it's the federal, whoever, when they come · 4 · · out here we have no trust in them because we don't see · 5 · ·you guys. · I don't see none of you. · I've never seen you · 6 · ·guys before. · 7 · · · · · · · · So a little more information to the · 8 · · community is all that I'm asking for. · 9 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Thank you, Mr. 10 · ·Benn. 11 · · · · · · · · · · · RYAN BENN: · All right. 12 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Thank you for 13 · ·being here tonight. 14 · · · · · · · · Yes, sir. 15 · · · · · · · · · · · CALVIN THOMAS: · I would just like to 16 · ·make a short comment here. 17 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · · Sure. · If I 18 · · could ask you, sir, if you could just state your name 19 · · for the record, please, we would appreciate it. 20 · · · · · · · · · · · CALVIN THOMAS: · My name is Calvin 21 · ·Thomas and I'm a resident here in the Aneth area, and I 22 · ·do public community as a community member. 23 · · · · · · · · So we're talking about air. · Which air are 24 · ·we talking about? · To me, the way I listened, we're 25 · · talking about the air up here. · And we're talking about· 1 · · the flare, only the flare, as far as my understanding.

· 2 · · So where does the air go? · The air goes everywhere. · On · 3 · · the top surface, or some of them, or even under the · 4 · · cave, or anywhere. · 5 · · · · · · · · So a lot of these fumes come up with the · 6 · · air, that oil spill, salt water spill. · You can smell · 7 · · it. · So we're talking about only a flare. · Is that the · 8 · · only one you guys going to be monitor that? · 9 · · · · · · · · We need to look deeper into it. · Every 10 · · living thing lives by air. · That's my understanding, the 11 · ·way I see it. · Even there's air in the water. · There's 12 · · air in the rock right now. · So what we really need is go 13 · ·deeper instead of just talking about flare. · Because we 14 · ·have a problem, it's affecting the human life and plant 15 · · life and animal life. 16 · · · · · · · · We have no fresh water here. · We can't even 17 · ·grow anything out here. · So air is everywhere. · If you 18 · ·have an oil spill during the summer, it seeps back out, 19 · ·you can smell it. · It gets into the air. 20 · · · · · · · · Not only that, also they're injecting the 21 · · CO2. · I've seen it, it's bleeding up in the air. · You 22 · · can smell it miles away when they do that. 23 · · · · · · · · So, I mean, everybody can do something 24 · · about it. · You can monitor it, you know. · But my, that's 25 · · the way I understand it, because it's part of my job to· 1 · ·help that community. · That everybody mentioned it.

· 2 · ·We're trying to work with the Navajo Nation, but nothing · 3 · ·happens. · Who's going to help us? · Who's going to help · 4 · · out and straighten out this problem that we live in? · 5 · ·That's what I have to make a comment on. · 6 · · · · · · · · If you really try to help and get some of · 7 · · the Clean Air Act to affect in this area, I'd sure like · 8 · · to see it. · I just don't want this, what we said here, · 9 · · and that reporter over there, and nothing, no response 10 · ·back to us. · No report back to us. 11 · · · · · · · · So the people, a lot of this community, you 12 · ·know, they don't really understand any of this, but they 13 · · really don't know what's written as a legal language. 14 · ·They don't understand it. · Some of the hard words, they 15 · ·don't understand it. 16 · · · · · · · · We did -- good thing you have interpreter 17 · ·here, but we like to see more community, how they 18 · · affected. · A lot of them, they're living right near it, 19 · · like Sandoval said, he lives right next to it. · He lives 20 · · in it. · But he stays there because there's nowhere else 21 · · to move to. · We're just in a corner of the reservation. 22 · · · · · · · · Some people trying to get higher area so 23 · · they can breathe some fresh air. · But nothing's fresh 24 · · anymore. · Nothing's clean anymore. · It's affecting 25 · · everything. · I'm telling you, it's affecting everything.· 1 · ·We have no vegetation. · Even when it starts to rain, you

· 2 · · can see the cloud just around us. · There's an open hole · 3 · · right here, a chimney. · That's how it is. · 4 · · · · · · · · You have to live here to know what's going · 5 · · on. · You have to sleep here to know what's going on. · In · 6 · · the morning it will affect your, your breathing and your · 7 · · stuffy nose, sometimes itchy eyes. · That's how it's · 8 · · affecting these people here. · So you're only talking · 9 · · about flare, I mean, you can do more than that. 10 · · · · · · · · That's what I like to make a comment on. 11 · ·Hopefully you guys can do something for us to help us 12 · · out, to protect the air and the environment here where 13 · ·we live in. · That's what I like to make a comment on, 14 · · and I thank you. 15 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Thank you, Mr. 16 · ·Thomas. · Thank you for being here tonight. 17 · · · · · · · · All right, is there anyone else that would 18 · · like to make an additional comment at this point? 19 · ·Ma'am. 20 · · · · · · · · Ma'am, if you could please state your name 21 · · for the record, we'd appreciate it. 22 · · · · · · · · · · · DAISY TODACHEENE: · Good evening, my 23 · ·name is Daisy Todacheene. 24 · · · · · · · · I live a few hundred yards under the flare. 25 · · It's right next to the Resolute facility. · And my main· 1 · · concern is the odor and the fumes that comes from the

· 2 · · flare. · And you can really smell it, and when there's a · 3 · ·breeze or windy, the tower gives off some kind of · 4 · ·grease-type of chemicals and we can see it on the · 5 · ·vehicles that are parked in the residential area. · And · 6 · ·we have lights up, too, so it affects that also. · 7 · · · · · · · · So I am wondering if later on if there is · 8 · ·going to be some kind of a health issue for people that · 9 · · live here. · And like some people that spoke here, no one 10 · · tells us anything like what the chemical really does to, 11 · · to the people and in the health area. · So we need more 12 · · information on that. 13 · · · · · · · · That's it. 14 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Thank you for 15 · ·being here, Ms. Todacheene, appreciate it. 16 · · · · · · · · Anyone else at this point? 17 · · · · · · · · There are no speakers at this point in time 18 · · so we're going to go off the record until I actually 19 · · receive another Speaker Card, and then we'll resume the 20 · ·hearing. 21 · · · · · · · · Thanks again for everyone who gave a 22 · · comment. · And we're off the record. 23 · · · · · · · · · · · · (Off the record from 7:18 p.m. until 24 · · 8 o'clock p.m.) 25 · · · · · · · · · · · STEVEN L. JAWGIEL: · Folks, we're· 1 · ·going to go back on the record. · It's 8 o'clock at

· 2 · ·night. · 3 · · · · · · · · I don't have any additional Speaker Cards, · 4 · · so we are going to conclude tonight's hearing. · 5 · · · · · · · · Again, if you want a copy of the · 6 · · transcript, you can go ahead and fill out a · 7 · · registration, a registration form in the back. · And you · 8 · · can find out when the final decision will be made, and · 9 · · also find out how to access the comments, responses, 10 · · EPA's responses to the comments made tonight. 11 · · · · · · · · I want to thank everyone for being here 12 · · tonight, and everyone's hospitality. 13 · · · · · · · · And we are off on the record. · Thank you. 14 · · · · · · · · · · · (Hearing adjourned at 8:01 p.m.) 15 16 · · · · · · · · · · · · · * · · * · · * 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25· 1 · · · · · · · · · · · REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE

· 2 · 3 · · · · · · · · I, Keith Rusk, do hereby certify that · 4 · · the hearing was taken in shorthand by me at the time and · 5 · ·place aforesaid and was reduced to typewritten form · 6 · · under my supervision; that the foregoing is a true · 7 · · transcript of the proceeding had. · 8 · · · · · · · · My commission expires 3/3/17. · 9 10 11 12 13 14 · · · · · · · · · · · · ·__________________________________ · · · · · · · · · · · · · · Keith W. Rusk 15 · · · · · · · · · · · · · Court Reporter · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·Notary Public 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25