AFS-10-391-E 

Nov 19 2010 

 Exemption No. 8825B 

 Regulatory Docket No. FAA-2000-7945 

Ms. Lori M. Kingsley 

Supervisor, Flight Test Engineering 

The Boeing Company 

P.O. Box 3707 

Seattle, WA 98124-2207 

Dear Ms. Kingsley: 

This letter is to inform you that we have granted your petition to extend and amend 

Exemption No. 8825, as amended. It explains the basis for our decision and describes its 

effect. 

The Basis for Our Decision 

By letter dated August 31, 2010, you petitioned the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) 

on behalf of The Boeing Company (Boeing) for an extension of and amendment to Exemption 

No. 8825, as amended. That exemption from § 61.57(a) and (b) of Title 14, Code of Federal 

Regulations (14 CFR) allows Boeing production and engineering flight test pilots to use any 

type of Boeing airplane simulator that represents any type of Boeing airplane to meet the 

takeoff and landing recent experience requirements of § 61.57 without Boeing holding a part 

142 training center certificate. 

In your petition, you request to amend the following conditions and limitations: 

Proposed Revision to Condition and Limitation No. 1 

Boeing proposes to revise condition and limitation No. 1 to expand the classification of 

Boeing pilots to which the exemption is applicable from Boeing “production and engineering 

test pilots” to include “all” Boeing pilots who meet the type rating criteria specified in 

condition and limitation No. 1. 
 2

Proposed Revision to Condition and Limitation Nos. 2 and 3 

Boeing proposes to revise condition and limitation Nos. 2 and 3 to expand the classification 

of Boeing airplanes in which the requirements of 14 CFR § 61.57(a) and (b) may be met to 

include non-type certificated Boeing experimental airplanes that are in developmental or 

certification flight test programs. 

The petitioner also states that there has been no change in the conditions and reasons relative 

to public interest and safety that were the basis for granting the original exemption. 

The FAA has determined that good cause exists for not publishing a summary of the petition 

in the Federal Register because the requested extension and amendments would not set a 

precedent. 

Our Decision 

The FAA has determined that the requested amendments would not adversely affect safety 

because Boeing pilots are highly trained and are continuously involved in the development of 

procedures for the safe operation of all Boeing airplanes. Additionally, the recent experience 

requirement of condition No. 3 ensures that the pilots maintain a high state of proficiency. 

In consideration of the foregoing, I find that a grant of exemption is in the public interest. 

Therefore, pursuant to the authority contained in 49 U.S.C. §§ 40113 and 44701, delegated to 

me by the Administrator, The Boeing Company is granted an exemption from 14 CFR 

§ 61.57(a) and (b) to the extent necessary to allow Boeing production and engineering pilots 

to use any type of Boeing airplane simulator that represents any type of Boeing airplane to 

meet the takeoff and landing recent experience requirements of § 61.57 without Boeing 

holding a part 142 training center certificate, subject to the conditions and limitations listed 

below. 

Conditions and Limitations 

1. This exemption applies only to Boeing pilots who hold a pilot certificate with a type 

rating in at least one model of Boeing-manufactured aircraft listed in Boeing aircraft 

type certificate data sheets A6WE, A16WE, A20WE, A2NM, A1NM, or T00001SE 

while engaging in flight operations in one of those airplanes on behalf of Boeing. 

2. Each pilot in command (PIC) subject to this exemption meeting the requirements of 

§ 61.57(a) or (b) in any type of Boeing airplane listed in Boeing aircraft type 

certificate data sheets A6WE, A16WE, A20WE, A2NM, A1NM, OR T00001SE, and 

Boeing Commercial Aircraft (BCA) experimental aircraft in developmental and 

certification flight test programs, will be considered to have met the requirements of § 

61.57(a) and (b) for all those types of Boeing aircraft. 
 3

3. Each PIC subject to this exemption may meet the requirements of § 61.57(a) and (b) in 

a simulator that represents any Boeing aircraft listed in Boeing aircraft type certificate 

data sheets A6WE, A16WE, A20WE, A2NM, A1NM, OR T00001SE, and BCA 

experimental aircraft in developmental and certification flight test programs, in which 

the person to serve as PIC, subject to the following: 

a. Since the beginning of the preceding 12 calendar months, the pilot must 

complete the requirements of § 61.57 (a) or (b) in any type of Boeing airplane; 

b. Since the beginning of the preceding 12 calendar months, the pilot must 

accomplish 100 hours of pilot time, 10 hours of which must be in any type of 

Boeing airplane; or 

c. Since the beginning of the preceding 6 calendar months, the pilot must 

accomplish 50 hours of pilot time, 5 hours of which must be in any type of 

Boeing airplane; 

d. The pilot must make three takeoffs and three landings to a full stop, subject to 

the following requirements: 

i. The simulators used must be qualified and approved by the FAA for 

takeoff and landing maneuver; 

ii. The takeoffs and landings must be accomplished under the supervision 

of a simulator instructor who certifies the pilot being observed is 

proficient in making takeoffs and landings; and 

iii. The pilot must be the sole manipulator of the flight controls; 

e. The takeoffs and landings must include at least one takeoff with a simulated 

failure of the most critical powerplant and at least one landing from an 

instrument landing system (ILS) approach to the lowest ILS minimums for 

which the pilot and airplane are authorized; and 

f. The flight simulator’s visual system must be adjusted to display a visual scene 

representing the period between 1 hour after sunset until 1 hour before sunrise. 

4. A copy of this exemption must be provided to each PIC who operates under the terms 

of this exemption. 
 4

5. A copy of this exemption must be presented to representatives of the Administrator 

upon request. 

The Effect of Our Decision 

Our decision extends the termination date of Exemption No. 8825, as amended, to 

January 31, 2013, unless sooner superseded or rescinded. This letter must be attached to, and 

is a part of, Exemption No. 8825. 

Sincerely, 

/s/ 

John W. McGraw 

Acting Director, Flight Standards 
 5

Project No.: AFS-10-391-E 

Project Officer: _______________ 

ARM-101:KJones:10/01/10:Doc#30636 

ARM-1/100/101:Program Office 800 

 Statistics: Boeing - FAA-2000-7945.DOC, 1,071 words 

 Original, 01 Oct 2010 15:26 

 Style Index 37 Good for a Legal Document 

 Average Sentence Length 40 Good

 Passive Index 44 Good

MS LORI M KINGSLEY 

SUPERVISOR, FLIGHT TEST ENGINEERING 

THE BOEING COMPANY 

PO BOX 3707 

SEATTLE WA 98124-2207