If this opinion indicates that it is “FOR PUBLICATION,” it is subject to 

revision until final publication in the Michigan Appeals Reports.

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S T A T E O F M I C H I G A N

C O U R T O F A P P E A L S

PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF MICHIGAN,

Plaintiff-Appellee,

UNPUBLISHED

May 14, 2020

v No. 334806

Macomb Circuit Court

DIONTE DESHAUN CLINGMAN, LC No. 2016-000099-FC

Defendant-Appellant.

ON REMAND

Before: BOONSTRA, P.J., and BECKERING and RONAYNE KRAUSE, JJ.

PER CURIAM.

Defendant appeals as of right his jury convictions of four counts of first-degree criminal 

sexual conduct (CSC-I), MCL 750.520b(1)(a), and three counts of second-degree criminal sexual 

conduct (CSC-II), MCL 750.520b(1)(a). The trial court sentenced defendant to 300 to 744 months 

in prison for each CSC-I conviction, and 120 to 180 months in prison for each CSC-II conviction, 

to be served concurrently. We previously affirmed defendant’s convictions and sentences. Our 

Supreme Court has remanded the matter to us “for reconsideration in light of People v Thorpe and 

People v Harbison, 504 Mich 230[; 934 NW2d 693] (2019).”

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 We now vacate defendant’s 

convictions and sentences, and we remand for further proceedings.

I. BACKGROUND

As we stated previously,

Defendant was convicted of sexually abusing his cousin, who was under 13 years 

of age at the time of these offenses. Defendant began living in his aunt’s home 

when he was 19 years old and the victim was 10 years old. The victim initially was 

 

1 People v Clingman (Clingman II), 505 Mich 936, 936; 936 NW2d 283 (2019).
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excited when defendant moved in, but she later changed her attitude and told her 

mother that she wished he would move out. In November 2015, when the victim 

was 12, she disclosed that defendant had been sexually abusing her for more than a 

year. The next day, her mother took the victim to the police, and also to a hospital 

to be examined. No physical evidence of sexual abuse was discovered during the

victim’s medical examination, as is often the case. The prosecution’s evidence 

against defendant consisted primarily of the victim’s accounts of multiple sexual 

acts committed by defendant. The defense challenged the victim’s credibility and 

also presented an alibi defense for one of the charged incidents, which allegedly 

occurred on Father’s Day. [People v Clingman (Clingman I), unpublished per 

curiam opinion of the Court of Appeals, Docket No. 334806, issued July 24, 2018.]

We previously rejected, among other things, defendant’s hearsay challenges to several statements 

by the victim introduced through the prosecution’s witnesses, as well as defendant’s associated 

assertion that he received ineffective assistance of counsel because trial counsel had not objected 

on hearsay grounds. We concluded that the evidence was sufficient to support defendant’s 

convictions, and we found no error in various other procedural, evidentiary, and sentencing 

challenges. Nothing in our Supreme Court’s order requires us to revisit any aspect of our prior 

analysis. We therefore reaffirm and readopt our prior opinion in full.

However, our Supreme Court permitted defendant to add a new, additional argument: that 

Heather Solomon, the lead forensic interviewer at the Macomb County Child Advocacy Center, 

also known as “the Care House,” had impermissibly vouched for the victim’s credibility. 

Defendant now argues that the admission of Solomon’s alleged vouching testimony constituted 

plain error affecting his substantial rights, and trial counsel was ineffective for failing to object to 

her testimony on vouching grounds.2 Relevant to our Supreme Court’s order of remand, some 

additional discussion of the trial is necessary.

Solomon was qualified as an expert in forensic interviewing and protocol. She interviewed 

the victim alone, while being remotely monitored by other members of Care House’s 

multidisciplinary team, on November 24, 2015. Solomon had previously been made aware of the 

allegations that the victim’s cousin “had put his penis inside of her vagina and mouth.” Solomon 

conducted the interview in accordance with the State of Michigan Governor’s Task Force on Child 

Abuse and Neglect Protocol, which requires the use of open-ended, nonleading questions and an 

“alternative hypothesis.” Solomon explained that the open-ended and nonleading questions were 

important “to obtain the truth and to get as much detail from the child in their own words without 

being leading or introducing knowledge.” Using an alternative hypothesis means that, rather than 

“trying to prove that the allegations are true,” the interviewer should explore alternative 

explanations for the allegations, such as a misunderstanding or coaching by someone with a grudge 

against the suspect or defendant.

After providing background information about how Care House conducted interviews, 

Solomon provided, in relevant part, the following testimony:

 

2 As we will discuss, defendant’s ineffective assistance arguments are moot.
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Q. Okay. In this case when you interviewed [the victim], can you describe 

for us in general what – what her demeanor was as far as her ability to disclose to 

you what had happened to her?

A. She was very forthcoming.

* * *

Q. Okay. Ms. Solomon, what’s been your experience with children 

regarding their ability to tell time or sequence of events or chronology of events?

A. It’s always an issue that kids have trouble identifying specific dates, 

amount of times. It’s not any different than if I were to ask you how many times 

did you use your debit card last – last month? It’s something you just – you don’t 

know specific times, dates, things like that.

Q. Okay. Do you find that that is true for a wide range of children as far as 

their ages –

A. Yes.

Q. – or do you find that that’s more likely in younger children, older 

children or something else?

A. Well, I would say it’s definitely more likely in younger children, but 

there’s many older kids, teenagers that just can’t give timeframes.

* * *

Q. The last question I asked was – strike that. You indicated that sometimes 

a range of ages of children have difficulty with sequence of events or timing, 

correct?

A. Yes.

Q. Okay. Did you find [the victim] to be consistent and/or age appropriate 

in her ability to relay timing or sequence of events?

A. It was very age appropriate.

* * *

Q. Okay. Without telling what [the victim] said during the interview, did 

you make any observations about how [the victim] was describing the assaults that 

took place?

A. Yes.

Q. And what were those observations?
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A. She had a lot of detail that someone her age probably would not have 

had had something not happened.

Q. Okay.

A. Like I said, she was very forthcoming. She had information and details 

about who else was there, who wasn’t there, things like that.

Q. Okay. Can you describe for me in general what [the victim’s] demeanor 

was throughout the course of the interview?

A. From what I remember she – she was just very matter of fact.

Q. Did you find her during the interview to be emotional when she was 

talking about it?

A. I don’t recall.

Q. Okay. When you say matter of fact, what do you mean by that?

A. She was able to give a lot of details and give narrative, talk about a lot 

of things that sometimes it’s very difficult for kids her age to talk about. 

Q. Okay. Because of the nature of what she’s talking about?

A. Yes.

Q. Okay. When the interview ended, what happened next?

A. After the interview ended I – like I said, I typically will ask if the child 

has any questions and then I escort the – I escorted her back to where her family 

was and then I went upstairs to talk with the team.

Q. Okay. And based on the interview and based on the questions and 

answers given in the interview, were the – was the interview consistent with the 

allegations or consistent with the alternative hypothesis?

A. With – consistent with the allegations. 

Defense counsel did not cross-examine Solomon. After presenting Solomon’s testimony, 

the prosecution rested. We also note that the victim also testified personally as a witness and was 

vigorously cross-examined.

II. INEFFECTIVE ASSISTANCE OF COUNSEL

Initially, we recognize defendant has argued that appellate counsel was ineffective for 

failing to raise this issue previously, and trial counsel was ineffective for failing to raise a timely 

objection on the grounds of vouching. We decline to consider defendant’s ineffective assistance 

arguments, because they are moot. “An issue is moot when an event occurs that renders it 
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impossible for the reviewing court to fashion a remedy to the controversy.” People v Cathey, 261 

Mich App 506, 510; 681 NW2d 661 (2004). First, pursuant to our Supreme Court’s remand order, 

the issue of whether defendant was deprived of a fair trial on the basis of Solomon vouching for 

the victim’s credibility is squarely before us. Irrespective of the outcome of this matter, it is 

therefore irrelevant whether trial counsel should have preserved the issue in some way, and it is 

also irrelevant whether appellate counsel should have raised the issue earlier. Secondly, as noted, 

we are now vacating defendant’s sentences in any event. There is no further relief defendant could 

gain by pursuing an ineffective assistance claim against trial or appellate counsel on this basis.

III. VOUCHING

Expert witnesses are not totally prohibited from testifying to ultimate facts at issue in 

criminal matters. See People v Smith, 425 Mich 98, 106; 387 NW2d 814 (1986). We understand 

the gravamen of Thorpe to be that an expert may not opine as to an ultimate fact or to the veracity 

of a complainant based solely on statements made by the complainant. Thorpe, 540 Mich at 255. 

Michigan jurisprudence had already “established that an examining physician could not opine that 

sexual abuse had occurred unless that opinion was supported by physical findings.” People v Del 

Cid, ___ Mich App ___, ___; ___ NW2d ___ (2020) (Docket No. 342402), slip op at p 6. Thus, 

the holding of Thorpe is not particularly groundbreaking, and it expressly reaffirms that experts 

may draw conclusions partially on the basis of a complainant’s statements, so long as the 

conclusion is also based on physical findings within that expert’s area of expertise. See Thorpe, 

540 Mich at 255. 

However, in Thorpe, our Supreme Court provided some further guidance as to what 

constituted vouching. Most central to the appeal in Thorpe, the expert improperly vouched for the 

complainant by stating that children only rarely lie about sexual abuse and offering inapplicable 

examples of situations in which a child might lie. Thorpe, 504 Mich at 259. Most central to the 

appeal in Harbison, the expert improperly vouched for the complainant by providing a diagnosis 

of sexual abuse based entirely on the expert’s own assessment of the complainant’s credibility. Id. 

at 260-262. As was the case here, in both appeals addressed in Thorpe, the complainants actually

testified at trial. Id. at 238, 243. Thus, “the jury was in just as good a position to evaluate the 

victim’s testimony as” the experts. Smith, 425 Mich at 109, quoted by Thorpe, 504 Mich at 262.

Nevertheless, in Smith, our Supreme Court noted an interesting caveat: the possibility that 

a witness was actually qualified “as an expert in assessing credibility.” Smith, 425 Mich at 109. 

This is of particular significance because “there is general agreement among experts that reactions 

of a victim of sexual assault vary quite significantly from those of a victim of the ‘average’ crime.” 

People v Beckley, 434 Mich 691, 715-716; 456 NW2d 391 (1990) (BRICKLEY, J.). Importantly, 

Solomon was not a medical doctor—she was an expert in forensic interviewing, with considerable 

experience interviewing children believed to be involved in a wide range of criminal matters. We 

do not believe that Solomon’s opinion that the victim’s ability to recall the sequence or timing of 

events was age-appropriate invaded the province of the jury. Even though it might have some 

bearing on the victim’s credibility, it was an opinion within Solomon’s “particular training and 
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experience in a special field of activity” that would not have been familiar to the jury.3 See People 

v Drossart, 99 Mich App 66, 80; 297 NW2d 863 (1980). We do not find Solomon to have 

improperly vouched for the victim’s credibility on that basis. Likewise, we find no improper 

vouching in Solomon’s opinion that the victim provided an age-appropriate level of detail.

More troubling is whether Solomon vouched for the victim’s credibility or truthfulness by 

testifying that the outcome of the interview was consistent with the allegations rather than with an 

alternative hypothesis. In general, expert witnesses are not precluded from also testifying as fact 

witnesses as to their own personal observations, and possibly even drawing factual conclusions 

from those observations. LaFave v Kroger, 5 Mich App 446, 449-450; 146 NW2d 850 (1966). 

Indeed, experts have always been required to provide the factual bases for any conclusions or 

opinions they draw. See Hitchcock v Burgett, 38 Mich 501, 507 (1878); Smith, 425 Mich at 107-

108. Thus, we believe experts may provide a descriptive summary of the expert’s observations. 

However, we find persuasive the Sixth Circuit’s admonition that if an expert witness also testifies 

as a fact witness, that “dual role” must be made clear to the jury, as well as which role the witness 

was playing when it gave any particular testimony. US v Lopez-Medina, 461 F 3d 724, 743-745 

(2006). Here, an expert in forensic interviewing testified that the victim’s interview was 

“consistent with the allegations,” without clearly explaining whether she was drawing an expert 

conclusion or merely reciting a summary of her observations. It is not clear to us that this 

testimony was intended to be a commentary on the victim’s truthfulness, and, properly explained, 

it might have been proper. However, under the circumstances, we are forced to conclude that there 

is an unacceptable danger that the jury would have understood it as improper vouching.

Finally, we are constrained to conclude that Solomon vouched for the victim’s credibility 

by further stating that the victim probably would not have been able to provide those details “had 

something not happened.” To say that the victim engaged with Solomon in an age-appropriate 

manner conveys little, if anything, about whether the victim was actually being truthful; is clearly 

within Solomon’s particular area of expertise; and would not be predictably within the jury’s 

common knowledge. Stating that the victim was “forthcoming” and provided many details is, of 

course, simply a neutral and descriptive observation. However, we are constrained to conclude 

that by voicing an opinion that “something” had probably “happened,” Solomon expressed an 

expert opinion as to the ultimate truth of the allegations solely on the basis of the victim’s 

statements. Thus, under Thorpe, we must find that Solomon impermissibly vouched for the 

victim’s credibility.

IV. PREJUDICE

Our Supreme Court’s opinion in Thorpe leaves no room for any doubt that in a case turning 

entirely on a credibility contest, e.g., in a case lacking in any additional evidence other than the 

victim’s own statements, improper vouching by an expert is per se plain error affecting the 

defendant’s substantial rights. Thorpe, 504 Mich at 263-266. Although there was some 

independent evidence to corroborate the victim’s version of events, there was also some 

independent evidence tending to dispute the victim’s version of events, so as we noted in our 

 

3 Everyday experience amply shows that the average adult is poorly equipped to comprehend the 

perspective of a child, and vice versa.
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previous opinion, this case mostly turned on whether the jury chose to believe the victim. We 

reiterate that we find no improper vouching from Solomon’s neutral description of the victim’s 

demeanor during the interview or in Solomon’s expert opinion that the victim’s recollections and 

statements were appropriate for her age. However, we are constrained by Thorpe to conclude that 

it was plain error that affected defendant’s substantial rights for Solomon to express a belief as to 

the likely truth of the victim’s statements.

V. CONCLUSION

As stated above, we reaffirm and readopt our prior opinion in full, and we now supplement 

that opinion with further analysis as ordered by our Supreme Court. We therefore must vacate 

defendant’s convictions and sentences, and we remand to the trial court for a new trial or for other

proceedings as it and the parties deem necessary and appropriate consistent with our opinions. We 

do not retain jurisdiction.

/s/ Jane M. Beckering 

/s/ Amy Ronayne Krause