From: Robert Berman [mailto:bermaneconomics@gmail.com] 

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To: Jerry Hodge 

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Zhimei Luo 

Subject: Re: Replacement Cost for Transformer Pole 

We also need to take into account that joint users also share the cost. 

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On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Jerry Hodge wrote: 

Ken: 

Does your pole change out estimate include the costs incurred by the other joint users of the pole 
such as the telephone or TV cable companies for transferring their equipment from the old to the 

new pole? Sometimes too, the pole is owned by one of the other joint users and you may have to 

wait until they can begin their work before the power co. can act. Time is an important issue. 

 All of this can add to the cost of change out. 

Jerry 

Jerry Hodge 

Consulting Engineer, E.E., M.S., P.E. 

Retired V.P. & G.M. of Pole Type Transformer & Regulator Div. 

Howard Industries Inc. 

P.O.Box 1588 

Laurel, Ms, 39440 

601 422-1539 Bus. 

484 226-6190 Cell 

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-----Original Message----- 

From: Kenneth Winder [mailto:kwinder@mleainc.com] 

Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:37 PM 

To: Richard Parker 

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Caitlin.Johnson@navigant.com; carlos.gaytan@ge.com; 

carlosgsiqueiros@eaton.com; chad.kennedy@us.schneider-electric.com; 

charlied@uus.org; chuck.simmons@pgnmail.com; clark.silcox@nema.org; 

cstephens@neea.org; Daniel.Cohen@hq.doe.gov; dave.millure@metglas.com; 

DYoung@energy-solution.com; eduardorobles@eaton.com; 

Eric.Petersen@aksteel.com; gbf1@pge.com; gjrosenquist@lbl.gov; 

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Hodge; Jim.creevy@nema.org; Jim.Raba@ee.doe.gov; 

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thomas.patzner@us.schneider-electric.com; vijay.tendulkar@onyxpower.com; 

zhimei.luo@navigant.com; Chris Boulduc; Ken Winder 

Subject: Replacement Cost for Transformer Pole 

Richard and Committee: 

 Attached is a spreadsheet showing the cost to replace an existing 

pole in a three-phase distribution circuit with an existing single-phase 

distribution transformer mounted on it. This information was developed 

to estimate the cost to replace an existing pole with a new, higher 

strength pole required because of the increased weight of the 

distribution transformer. This estimate represents the cost to do this 

for my Cooperative. 

 Other Utilities will be furnishing this information for their systems. 

Kenneth A. Winder, PE