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HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES

UNITED STATES SENATE

EIGHTY-SEVENTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

ON

NOMINATIONS OF

DR. HAROLD BROWN, TO BE DIRECTOR OF DEFENSE RESEARCH AND ENGINEERING; JOSEPH S. IMIRIE, TO BE ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE AIR FORCE; PAUL R. IGNATIUS, TO

BE ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE ARMY; EDWARD A.

McDERMOTT, TO BE DEPUTY DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF CIVIL AND

DEFENSE MOBILIZATION; DR. BROCKWAY McMILLAN, TO BE

ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE AIR FORCE; JOHN R. RUBEL,

TO BE AN ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE

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COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES

RICHARD B. RUSSELL, Georgia, Chairman

HARRY FLOOD BYRD, Virginia

JOHN STENNIS, Mississippi

STUART SYMINGTON, Missouri

HENRY M. JACKSON, Washington

SAM J. ERVIN, Jr., North Carolina

STROM THURMOND, South Carolina

CLAIR ENGLE, California

E. L. BARTLETT, Alaska

HOWARD W. CANNON, Nevada

ROBERT C. BYRD, West Virginia

HARRY L. WINGATE, JR., Chief Clerk

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LEVERETT SALTONSTALL, Massachusetts

STYLES BRIDGES, New Hampshire

MARGARET CHASE SMITH, Maine

FRANCIS CASE, South Dakota

PRESCOTT BUSH, Connecticut

J. GLENN BEALL, Maryland
CONTENTS

Statements of—

Brown, Dr. Harold, nominee for Director of Defense Research and Page

Engineering 2

Gillette, Hon. Guy M., former U.S. Senator from the State of Iowa 13

Hickenlooper, Hon. Bourke B., U.S. Senator from the State of Iowa 12

Ignatius, Paul R., nominee for Assistant Secretary of the Army 20

Imirie, Joseph S., nominee for Assistant Secretary of the Air Force 5

McDermott, Edward A., nominee for Deputy Director, Office of Civil

and Defense Mobilization 15

McMillan, Dr. Brockway, nominee for Assistant Secretary of the Air

Force 22

Miller, Hon. Jack, U.S. Senator from the State of Iowa 11

Monroney, Hon. A. S. Mike, U.S. Senator from the State of Oklahoma 12

Rubel, John R., nominee for Assistant Secretary of Defense 17

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FRIDAY, APRIL 7, 1961

U.S. SENATE,

COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES,

Washington, D.0 .

The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10 a.m., in room 212, Old

Senate Office Building.

Present: Senators Russell (chairman), Byrd of Virginia, Stennis,

Symington, Jackson, Thurmond, Engle, Cannon, Saltonstall, Smith

of Maine, and Bush.

Also present: William H. Darden, T. Edward Braswell, and Gordon A. Nease of the committee staff and Harry L. Wingate, Jr., chief

clerk.

Chairman RUSSELL. Dr. Brown, will you be seated, please. Dr.

York, will you sit with Dr. Brown.

The committee will be in session.

NOMINATION OF DR. HAROLD BROWN TO BE DIRECTOR OF

DEFENSE RESEARCH AND ENGINEERING

Chairman RUSSELL. We have two important nominations to civilian

offices in the Department of Defense that should be cleared by the

Senate in the national interest.

The first of these is the nomination of Dr. Harold Brown, of California, to be Director of Defense Research and Engineering, succeeding Dr. Herbert F. York. We are glad to have Dr. York here this

morning.

All the members of the committee have great confidence in Dr.

York. He has done an outstanding job in one of the most difficult

and trying positions in the Government service, and I am sure that

all the members of the committee join me in expressing the hope that

he will find his return to private life—I believe he is going back to

teaching; I do not know whether he calls that private life or not—

I hope he will find it rewarding and stimulating.

We can only hope that sometime in the future the Government will

benefit from Dr. York's services.

Dr. Brown, we are glad to have you here. We are glad to have

you make a brief statement of your background and experience, and

then some of the members of the committee may have some questions

for you.

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STATEMENT OF DR. HAROLD BROWN, NOMINEE TO BE DIRECTOR

OF DEFENSE, RESEARCH AND ENGINEERING, ACCOMPANIED BY

DR. HERBERT F. YORK

Mr. BROWN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I believe that you and other members of the committee have before

you a biographical sketch of me. However, I shall be happy to summarize it, if you like.

(The nomination reference and biographical sketch are as follows:)

NOMINATION REFERENCE AND REPORT

IN EXECUTIVE SESSION,

SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES,

March 9, 1961.

Ordered, That the following nomination be referred to the Committee on Armed

Services:

Harold Brown, of California, to be Director of Defense Research and Engineering, vice Herbert F. York.

DR. HAROLD BROWN, LAWRENCE RADIATION LABORATORIES, POST OFFICE Box 808,

LIVERMORE, CALIF.

Field: Physics.

Born: New York, N.Y., September 19,1927.

Married 1953; has two children.

A.B., Columbia, 1945; A.M., Columbia, 1946; Ph.D. (physics), Columbia, 1949;

Lydig Fellow, 1948-49; assistant professor of physics, Columbia, 1945-47; with

Stevens Institute of Technology, 1949-50. Joined Lawrence Radiation Laboratories, 1950; group leader, 1953-56; division leader, 1956-59;. associate director,

1958-59; deputy director, 1959-60; director, 1960 to present.

Consultant to: Aero-Jet General, 1956 to present; Nucleonics, 1956 to present;

Air Force Science Advisory Board, 1956-57—member since 1958. Member of

Science Advisory Committee to Secretary of Defense from 1958 to present. Panel

consultant, President's Science Advisory Committee since 1958; appointed member in 1961. Adviser, Western delegation to Experts Conference, Geneva, 1958;

senior scientific adviser, U.S. delegation to Conference on Discontinuance of

Nuclear Tests, Geneva, 1958-59.

Member of American Physical Society.

Specialty: Nuclear physics; nuclear reactor design; nuclear explosions and

weapons systems.

BIOGRAPHY OF DR. HAROLD BROWN

Dr. Harold Brown was born in New York City on September 19,1927. He was

educated in the New York City public schools and at Columbia University,

where he received an A.B. degree in 1945, an A.M. in 1946, and a Ph.D. (in

physics) in 1949.

From 1947 to 1950, he was a lecturer in physics and a member of the scientific

staff at Columbia. He held a Lydig fellowship in 1948-49. His research during

this period was in low energy nuclear physics. During 1945-50, he was also a

lecturer in physics at Stevens Institute of Technology. In 1950, after spending

a year in postdoctoral research at Columbia, he joined the University of California

Radiation Laboratory at Berkley, to work on a project aimed at using high

intensity beams of particles from nuclear accelerators to produce isotopes in large

quantities. In the course of this work he did research on neutron physics and expanded his activities in nuclear reactor designs.

In 1952, when the Livermore site of the radiation laboratory was established,

he became a staff member there, being appointed a group leader in 1953, division

leader in 1955, associate director in 1958, deputy director in 1959, and in July

1960, director of the Lawrence Radiation Laboratory at Livermore. During this

period his research interests included nuclear explosive design, applications of

nuclear explosives to military and nonmilitary purposes, controlled release of
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thermonuclear energy, nuclear reactors of advanced design and weapon systems

of numerous kinds.

In the past few years he has done research and analysis in the problems of

detecting nuclear explosions in various environments, and has participated in a

number of studies in the area of arms limitation and control.

He is a member of the American Physical Society, of Sigma Xi and Phi Beta

Kappa.

Since 1956 he has been associated with the Department of Defense in a

variety of advisory capacities. He was a member of the Polaris Steering Committee from 1956 to 1958. From 1956 to 1957 he was a consultant to the Air Force

Scientific Advisory Board, and has been a member since 1958. From 1958 to

1961 he was a member of the Scientific Advisory Committee on Ballistic Missiles

to the Secretary of Defense.

Dr. Brown was an adviser to the U.S. delegation to the Conference of Experts

on the Detection of Nuclear Weapons Tests in Geneva during the summer of

1958, and a scientific adviser to the U.S. delegation to the Conference on Discontinuance of Nuclear Weapons Tests in October 1958. ( Senior scientific adviser from November 1958 to February 1959.) He was also a consultant to the

Department of State during the period 1958-60.

Dr. Brown was a consultant to several panels of the President's Science Advisory Committee from 1958 to 1960, and was appointed a member of the President's Science Advisory Committee by President Kennedy in January 1961.

He was a consultant to the Aero-Jet General Corp. from 1956 to 1961, and was

elected a trustee of the Aero-Space Corp. in 1961.

In October 1953, he was married to the former Colene D. McDowell of San

Francisco, Calif. They have two children, Deborah, 5, and Ellen, 3. The family

has its home at 4 Holiday Drive, Alamo, Calif.

Dr. BROWN. I was born and brought up in New York City, attended the public schools there, and then went on to Columbia University where I received a number of degrees, and got my Ph.D.

in physics in 1949.

During the period of my graduate study, I did work in experimental nuclear physics, and following my doctor's degree in 1949,

I stayed on at Columbia for about a year in postdoctoral research

in physics.

In 1950, I joined the University of California Radiation Laboratory in Berkeley to work on a defense related project there, and in

1952, when the Livermore side of that laboratory was established,

I became a staff member there.

During that period, I worked in a number of research areas, controlled thermonuclear reactions, nuclear reactor designs, baste research, but primarily on the development of nuclear explosives and

their application to both military and nonmilitary purposes.

In 1955, I became a division leader for the laboratory and in 1958,

an associate director.

As a matter of fact, it was during that period that Dr. York was

the director of the Livermore Laboratory he was its first director

I became director of that laboratory in 1960, last year.

In 1958, I was asked to accompany the U.S. delegation to the

Conference of Experts on the Discontinuance of Nuclear Weapons

Tests and again in 1959 went back there for the political conference

which started then and is still in process.

During that time, I, of course, became interested in and involved

in a number of studies on arms limitation and control.

My connection with the Department of Defense has been of several

years' standing, but from the outside as a consultant.

I was a member of the committee which established technical directions for the Polaris program, and then I was a member of the
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steering committee on the Polaris program for about 2 years at the

end of 1956 to well into 1958. •

I have been a member of the Air Force Scientific Advisory Board

since 1958, after having been a consultant to that group for 2 years

before that.

I have been a member of the Advisory Committee on Ballistic

Missiles to the Secretary of Defense, Scientific Advisory Committee

on Ballistic Missiles for the Secretary of Defense since 1958, and

after being a consultant to a number of panels on the President's

Science Advisory Committee for about 2 years, I was appointed this

January by President i(ennedy to be a meniber of the President's

Science Advisory Committee.

I have been in the past, as you will see from the biographical note,

a consultant to the Aero-Jet General Corp. since 1956, when I was

appointed to this job. I resigned, severed all connections with AeroJ et as a member of their technical advisory board last month.

From the beginning of this year, I have also been a trustee of the

Aero-Space Corp., and in view of their connection with defense work,

I would expect—well, I intend to submit my resignation at the next

meeting of the board of trustees, which will be next month.

I believe the committee has also before it a list of some securities

which I own, a number of which, as you see, have significant or substantial defense contracts.

Those I intend to dispose of in accordance with the policies of the

committee.

I think that concludes my summary, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman RUSSELL. Dr. Brown, you seem to be eminently qualified

by experience and training for this very important position.

I do not know of any post in our Government anywhere today that

is more vital to the national security, maintaining a free country, than

this job that you are entering upon. I am sure you are aware that

among the other sacrifices you will have to make is to dispose of these

securities, and we will ask you to let us know by letter when you have

done so.

Senator 'Stennis ?

Senator STENNIS. Mr. Chairman, I want first to join with the Chair

in expressing gratitude of this committee and all of us here for Dr.

York's very fine services. I remember when he came here. I remember how valuable his advice has been from time to time to us.

And I know it has been highly valuable over in the Pentagon.

I find that he has a sense of humor, too, and he has kept it. For

instance, he told me just a few minutes ago that he had been here

long enough to start declaring himself as an expert in Government

and found himself so outnumbered here that he thought he had better

go back.

Dr. Brown, we certainly are impressed, as the Chairman says, by

your fine record of achievement, particularly so much so fast, and you

are still a young man. I certainly wish you well.

You will find plenty to do. This high-level space, missiles and

all the involved matters that we have, make this a highly important

office that you are assuming. I look forward to your services.

Dr. BROWN. Thank you.
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Chairman RUSSELL. Does any other member of the committee have

any comment?

Senator THURMOND. Mr. Chairman, I would like to associate myself with your remarks and those of Senator Stennis in high praise of

the work of Dr. York, and expressing best wishes to Dr. Brown's

new work.

Dr. BROWN. Thank you, Senator.

Chairman RUSSELL. Senator Cannon?

Senator CANNON. Mr. Chairman, I would also like to join in the

commendations to Dr. York. I think he has been extremely helpful

to this committee, and I want to commend him for the way he has,

in my opinion, resisted pressures both political, military, and other

types, to give this committee and the Government the best advice

that he can from his position as an expert in this field.

I am sure that Dr. Brown will follow along very nicely in his

footseps, and I wish him well, and again I want to commend Dr. York

for the fine job he has done.

Chairman RUSSELL. Senator Symington?

Senator SYMINGTON. Mr. Chairman, I would like to also thank Dr.

York for the great contribution he has made to our national security,

and tell him what a privilege it has been to work with him in the past.

I hope he will find time to come back at least on a consultant basis

as much as possible in the future, and I wish his successor well.

Chairman RUSSELL. If there is no further comment, we are glad to

have heard you Dr. Brown.

(The nomination of Dr. Brown was subsequently approved by the

committee in executive session and confirmed by the Senate on April

12, 1961.)

NOMINATION OF JOSEPH S. IMIRIE TO BE AN ASSISTANT

SECRETARY OF THE AIR FORCE

Chairman RUSSELL. We also have another very important nomination: Mr. Joseph S. Imirie, to be an Assistant Secretary of the Air

Force.

Come around and have a seat, Mr. Imirie.

Mr. Imirie is accompanied by Mr. Garlock, who is well known to all

of us, one of the first career men in Government. We will be glad

to have you furnish the committee with a brief biographical statement,

if you will, Mr. Imirie.

STATEMENT OF JOSEPH S. IMIRIE, NOMINEE TO BE AN ASSISTANT

SECRETARY OF THE AIR FORCE, ACCOMPANIED BY LYLE S. GARLOCK, ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE AIR FORCE

Mr. IMIREE. I have previously submitted a statement which I will

summarize.

I am 45 years old. I was born and raised in the city of Washington.

I attended its public school system and was finally graduated from

Catholic University. Shortly thereafter, in the summer of 19382 I

commenced a career with the Federal Government, and that being with

the Interior Department.
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My duties were statistical in nature and went to junior administrative.

Sometime in September of 1941, I was transferred to the then War

Department, and at a time when the Air Force was creating its first

Air Staff in the work of the operations segment thereof, on organizational type assignment. About a year later I was put in an office of

management control which, likewise, was newly created and, likewise,

worked on organizational problems.

In 1942, October, I became part of the military service and spent

4 years in the Air Transport Command, largely on a travel status and

again in organizational work. I returned to civil service in 1946, with

the so-called A-4 at the time which is the equivalent today to the

Deputy Chief of Staff (Materiel) .

My activities were twofold then, first having to do with the reduction of the size of the Air Force Materiel effort which resulted from the

conclusion of World War II, and secondarily, or the second half, my

time was devoted to planning for the separation of the logistical parts

of the Air Force from the Army.

Having accomplished this, and with the Defense Reorganization

Act, I then did work with the Army and Navy on product supply

and related type of assignments.

Shortly after that I was assigned to the first Secretary of the Air

Force's Office, Mr. Symington, and was a Special Assistant to the

Tinder Secretary, who dealt primarily in procurement.

I concluded my career with the Secretary of the Air Force's Office

by being a Deputy to the Assistant Secretary, again largely in logistics matters.

In 1952,1 ended my Government career and joined the Carborundum

Co. of Niagara Falls, N.Y., half of which was spent in, again, organizational work. The company was undergoing a renaissance.

I had to do with splitting its organization down into divisions, organizing its sales force and so on.

In 1955, I was made a general manager of one of its larger operating

divisions, a position which I hold until this time.

During the course of the latter part of my Carborundum career, I

was made a:vice president of the company. If I am privileged to be

confirmed by the position of Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for

Materiel, I, of course, will sever all ties with this company. I, likewise, will follow the committee's wishes with respect to such holdings

as I have, which are indeed minor.

But if the Chair will, I have a problem in that connection. My holdings in the Carborundum Co., in large part, were as a result of my

recently exercised stock options to which I was privileged.

If I understand correctly the rules of the committee, my disposal

of these holdings will be well before any capital gains time. If there

is any wish or intent of the committee to this point, I would indeed

appreciate it.

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(The nomination reference, biographical sketch, and statement are

as follows:)

NOMINATION REFERENCE AND REPORT

IN EXECUTIVE SESSION,

SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES,

March 24, 1961.

Ordered, That the following nomination be referred to the Committee on

Armed Services:

Joseph Scott Imirie, of New York, to be an Assistant Secretary of the Air

Force.

JOSEPH S. IMIRIE

Born July 11, 1916, Washington, D.C.

Graduated 1934, McKinley High School, Washington, D.C.; graduated 1938,

Catholic University, Washington, D.C., B.S., Business Administration.

Married, 1940 to Mildred F. Klinke ; one son, Timothy.

Employed, Interior Department, grazing service, August 1938 through 1940;

employed, Air Force, 1940 through 1951, including 4 years military service; employed, Carborundum Co., 1952 through present.

Duties with the Interior Department were related to the control and operation of grazing service CCC camps and included serving on the Government

Interdepartmental Radio Advisory Committee.

Duties with the Air Force progressed as below:

( a) Air Force Center for Operations (A-3) : Responsible here for the administrative establishment and management of this office which was a part of the

first Air Staff.

(b) Office of Air Force Management Control: Concerned with Air Force organization and procedural problems.

(c) Military Service: Assigned to the Air Transport Command. Duties comprised of traveling on a worldwide basis for the Command Headquarters on

organization.

(d) Air Force Center for Procurement and Supply (A-4 ) : Concerned with

Air Force materiel organization and procedural problems particularly planning

for the materiel segment of the new separate Air Force.

(e) Office of the Secretary of the Air Force (1947-51 ) : Served first as Assistant to the Under Secretary and finally as a Deputy Assistant Secretary. Concerned with the direction of regular Air Force procurement, supply and maintenance functions, participation in the Munitions Board and other outside activities of interest to the Air Force.

Duties with the Carborundum Co.:

(a) Assistant to the President, 1952 through 1954: Focal point for the review

and modification of the company organization, revision of company administrative practices including personnel administration, salary and wage structures,

management incentive and sales compensation plans, installation of a system for

financial programing and control and the revision and publication of company

policies. Served as a member of the company executive group.

(b) Vice president and general manager, electrominerals division, 1955

through present. Organized this division. Responsible for the manufacture

and sale of products assigned and the development of new or complementary

product lines. Products include crude and processed forms of silicon carbide,

aluminum oxide, boron carbide and fused magnesium. Markets served are abrasive and refractories manufacturers, automotive, foundry, steel, optical, chemical

and electrical. The division is a major contributor to total company sales and

a prime contributor to its profits. Serve as a member of the company executive

group.

PREPARED STATEMENT SUBMITTED BY MR. JOSEPH S. IMIRIE, ASSISTANT

SECRETARY OF THE AIR FORCE

I am Joseph Scott Imirie, of Lewiston, N.Y. I was born in Washington, D.C.,

in 1916 and moved to Lewiston in 1952 where I have lived since that time.

I was educated in the public schools in Washington, D.C., and Catholic University, from which I was graduated in 1938 with a degree of bachelor of science

in business administration.
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Upon graduation from college, I commenced a career with the Federal Government.

My first Government position was with the Grazing Service of the Interior

Department, commencing in August 1938. My duties consisted largely of statistical and junior administrative matters relating to control and administration

of the Grazing Service CCC Camps. I also became the Interior Department's

representative on the Government Interdepartmental Radio Advisory Committee.

In September 1941, I was transferred to the War Department and progressed

through the following offices:

(1) Air Force Center for Operations (A-3) : As civilian executive I was concerned with assisting in the establishment of this part of the first Air Staff, its

organization, staffing, and administration.

(2) Office of Air Force Management Control, where, as an associate administrative analyst, I was concerned with Air Force organization and procedural

problems such as activation of the publication system, personnel manning in the

Washington area, and Air Force subdepot supply and maintenance activities.

(3) From October 1942 through April 1946, I was in military service. My

assignment throughout this period was with the Air Transport Command. My

duties included traveling on a worldwide basis for the Command Headquarters

on organizational matters. I ended military service in the grade of major.

(4) Air Force Center for Procurement and Supply (A-4) : It was in this

position, again in the Air Staff of the War Department, that I resumed my

civil service career in April of 1946. I was first concerned with problems

relating to reducing the size and scope of Air Force materiel functions resulting

from the conclusion of World War II. I became actively involved in the planning

necessary for the materiel segment of the projected Department of the Air Force.

After establishment of this Department, my work involved materiel relationships

with the Army and Navy.

(5) Office of the Secretary of the Air Force, where I first served as Assistant

to the Under Secretary and finally as a Deputy to the Assistant Secretary

for Materiel. In this latter position, I was concerned with direction of Regular

Air Force procurement, supply, and maintenance functions, participation on the

Munitions Board, and other outside activities of interest to the Air Force.

In January 1952, I ended my Government career, joining the Carborundum

Co., Niagara Falls, N.Y. After a period of orientation, I became assistant to

the president. At that time, Carborundum was undergoing major realinements

and my office was the focal point for review and modification of company organization, revision of administrative practices, including personnel administration, salary and wage structures, management incentives, sales organization and compensation plans, installation of a system of financial programing

and control, and revision and publication of company policies. I have served

continuously as a member of the company executive group. In 1955 I was

appointed general manager of the company's electrominerals division. The

electromineals division is an enterprise which develops, manufactures, and

sells abrasive crudes and grains, as well as products with electrical, chemical,

and metallurgical applications. In 1956, I was elected a vice president of

Carborundum. I am still associated with that company.

If my nomination for Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Materiel is

approved, I am prepared to resign my position with the Carborundum Co. and

sever all connections with this firm.

I would, of course, be willing to divest myself of any of my present stockholdings if the committee feels that there is a potential conflict of interest.

My present residence is Hewitt Parkway, Lewiston, N.Y.

Chairman RUSSELL. Might I inquire, Mr. Imirie, as to how long

it will be before you will have owned this stock for 6 months?

Mr. ImiRiE. It will be the latter part of July or about the first of

August, sir.

Chairman RUSSELL. Of this year?

Mr. ImiRiE. Of this year.

Chairman RUSSELL. We will take that up in executive session.

You seem to be peculiarly qualified, Mr. Imirie. I am sure that

you will render fine service to the Government. You have had a rather

unusual career all the way from the Department of the Interior in
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the Civilian Conservation Corps to the executive post in a large corporation.

Are there any questions of Mr. Imirie?

Senator SYMINGTON. Mr. Chairman, I would just like to say that

I have known Mr. Imirie for many years. I think he is one of the

outstanding public servants that I have met in Government, and I

consider the Department of Defense very fortunate in having him

come back into the Government at great personal financial sacrifice

in order to take on this work.

Chairman RUSSELL. It is very encouraging to see a man willing to

make sacrifices of that kind. Are there any further questions or

comments?

Senator THURMOND. Mr. Chairman, I think Mr. Imirie appears

eminently qualified for his new position.

Chairman RUSSELL. We are glad to have you here, Mr. Imirie. We

wish you well.

The committee will advise you later with respect to that matter

which you have called to our attention.

Mr. IMIRIE. Thank you, sir.

Chairman RUSSELL. The Chair overlooked stating that Senator

Engle, who is a member of this committee, was unavoidably detained

this morning and he called me and asked me to convey to the committee the information that he wholeheartedly approves the nomination of Dr. Brown.

Senator Jackson?

Senator JACKSON. Mr. Chairman, in that same connection—I am

sorry I was a little late in getting here—I have known Dr. Brown

since his association with the Livermore Laboratory. While he is

very young in years, he is a wise and able young man.

I followed very closely his work at Geneva. I found from personal

observation and work in connection with the Atomic Energy Committee that he is not only a great scientist, but a man of very good

judgment.

Chairman RUSSELL. Thank you.

Thank you Senator Jackson.

Thank you,Mr. Imirie.

(The nomination of Mr. Imirie was subsequently approved by the

committee in executive session and confirmed by the Senate on

April 12, 1961.)

The committee will now resolve itself into executive session.

(Whereupon, at 10:20 a.m., the committee went into executive

session.)

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THURSDAY, MAY 18, 1961

U.S. SENATE,

COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES,

Waskington, D.C.

The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:30 a.m., in room 212,

Old Senate Office Building, Senator Richard B. Russell (chairman)

presiding.

Present: Senators Russell, Stennis, Symington, Thurmond, Cannon,

Byrd of West Virginia, Saltonstall, Bridges, Smith of Maine, and

Case of South Dakota.

Also present: William H. Darden, and T. Edward Braswell, professional staff members Harry L. Wingate, chief clerk Herbert S.

Atkinson, assistant chief clerk.

Chairman RUSSELL. The open part of the meeting this morning is to

receive testimony from four nominees to statutory positions in the

Office of Civil and Defense Mobilization, and the Department of

Defense.

NOMINATION OF EDWARD A. McDERMOTT, OF IOWA, TO BE DEPUTY

DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF CIVIL AND DEFENSE MOBILIZATION

Chairman RUSSELL. Senator Miller, the distinguished Senator from

Iowa, has a meeting of the joint committee. He is here to make a

presentation to the committee with respect to the nomination of

Mr. Edward A. McDermott of that State to be Deputy Director of

the Office of Civil and Defense Mobilization. We will be glad to hear

from you, Senator.

STATEMENT OF HON. JACK MILLER, U.S. SENATOR FROM THE

STATE OF IOWA

Senator MILLER. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Chairman, I know the committee is very busy, and I do not

want to take up much of the committee's time. But inasmuch as the

nominee is a resident of my State, and inasmuch as he is also not only

a personal friend but a member in very high standing of the Iowa Bar

Association, I thought it little enough for me to do to appear before

the committee and state that not only do we have no objection, but

we enthusiastically endorse this nomination.

I have known Mr. McDermott for several years. He is a graduate of

the University of Iowa College of Law, a long-term member of the

Iowa Bar Association, enjoys an excellent reputation among his fellow

lawyers in the State.

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I happen to know that in his hometown of Dubuque, Iowa, he is

considered one of its leading citizens, and so I hope and ask that this

committee give most favorable consideration to this nomination.

Chairman RUSSELL. We are glad to have you, Senator.

Senator Monroney has honored us by his presence this morning.

Senator, do you desire to make a presentation?

STATEMENT OF HON. A. S. MIKE MONRONEY, U.S. SENATOR FROM

THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA

Senator MONRONEY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I just wanted to appear in behalf of Mr. McDermott. At the time

I became chairman of the Privileges and Elections Subcommittee in

1950, Mr. McDermott was serving as staff director and chief attorney

for this committee. He had been appointed by our distinguished colleague, Senator Guy Gillette. Senator Gillette turned the committee

over to me, and so I have had the privilege of working with him on

some very difficult election investigations and a study of and a rewriting of the election laws and the Corrupt Practices Act.

I would like to say that Mr. McDermott was one of the most satisfactory staff directors that I have ever worked with during my service

in the State. He was able, industrious, intelligent, wise in the legal

profession, an ideal staff member, meeting all the high standards,

This work was quite difficult in those days because of certain stresses

and strains and investigations we had underway involving Members

of the Senate.

He handled this with great ability and tact, and with a great sense

of fairness to where the minority and majority members of the committee, as well as other members of the Senate, came to respect his fairness and his accuracy of his work.

You have already heard the outline of his legal career, and we regretted deeply losing him when he had to leave because of a growing

family, to go back into private practice of law.

I have followed with great satisfaction his success and his climb to

high eminence in the legal profession in the great State of Iowa.

I appreciate the opportunity, Mr. Chairman, of being able to give

this testimony in behalf of a man who certainly served with great competence and credit on the Senate staff in those years he was with us.

Chairman RUSSELL. We are glad to have heard from you, Senator

Monroney.

I see the distinguished senior Senator from Iowa at the table, Senator Hickenlooper. Do you desire to make a statement?

STATEMENT OF HON. BOURKE B. HICKENLOOFER, U.S. SENATOR

FROM THE STATE OF IOWA

Senator HICKENLOOPER. Yes, Mr. Chairman.

First, I thank you for the opportunity of appearing before the

committee, and I am very pleased to be here to express my very high

regard for the competence and the character and ability of Ed McDermott whom you have under consideration here for confirmation.

Mr. McDermott is one of our outstanding lawyers in the State of

Iowa. He possesses the highest degree of integrity and of legal corn-
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petence and of trust. He has a fine reputation, and I can imagine no

better appointment or no more qualified man for the appointment

of this kind.

His judgment, except in one particular which I shall not canvass, is

of the highest degree. He is a Democrat, and I shall not touch on that

particular phase of the thing. [Laughter.]

But, seriously, Mr. Chairman, Ed McDermott is one of our finest

citizens. I know you have a rundown on his background, his Government experience, but it is a distinct pleasure for me to urge your

favorable consideration for his confirmation, and I feel confident that

you will give it your favorable consideration, but I merely want to

add my testimony here that he has been a fine public servant, he has

been a fine citizen and an able, outstanding lawyer, and I know he

will render outstanding service to the Government. I heartily endorse

his appointment.

Chairman RUSSELL. Glad to have heard you, Senator Hickenlooper.

Senator SALTONSTALL. Mr. Chairman, under those circumstances, I

am confident that in the exercise of excellent judgment which the Senator has given the nominee, that he voted for the Senator when he

was up for election. [Laughter.]

Chairman R-crssELL. The Chair sees in the committee chamber one

of the most distinguished and outstanding men that I have ever been

privileged to serve with in the Senate of the United States, a man I

am proud to claim as a personal friend, and of outstanding capacity,

character and courage as a public servant, the Honorable Guy

Gillette.

Senator Gillette, I am happy to see you here, and this committee

would be fortunate to get your views in any matter. If you have any

statement you wish to make to the committee, we will be glad to hear

you.

STATEMENT OF GUY M. GILLETTE, FORMER U.S. SENATOR FROM

THE STATE OF IOWA

Mr. GILLETTE. Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, I am

indeed happy to be here, and I understand that you are considering

the nomination of my very dear friend and fellow Iowan, Mr. McDermott. I would like to take about 3 minutes because of the fact that

Senator Monroney alluded to a matter in which I had a personal

interest and I know the country had.

A number of years ago there was a controversy over the seating of

Senator Butler of Maryland. The contest had been between former

Senator Tydings and Senator Butler. It was a very bitter election

fight, and the seat of Senator Butler was contested by former Senator

Tydi ngs.

The controversy revolved around the activities of former Senator

McCarthy in that area.

Because of the fact that there was going to be a long hearing and

many witnesses, and a very bitter controversy, I happened to be chairman of the Senate Subcommittee on Privileges and Elections at the

time, and there was selected to conduct these hearings two Republicans and two Democrats. The Republicans were Senator Margaret

Chase Smith of Maine and Senator Herman Welker of Idaho, and
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the Democrats were Senator John Stennis of Mississippi and Senator

Monroney, who just appeared before you.

The two contestants, Senator McCarthy, who was appearing for

Senator Butler, and Senator Tydings, both have passed on, but anybody who knew them knew they were men of strong convictions and not

very hesitant about expressing their convictions.

I was anxious to find a man who had the ability and the time and

the qualifications to act as chief counsel to this subcommittee, and I

found him in a young lawyer from Iowa, Ed McDermott.

He came down here, and throughout those protracted hearings he

acted as chief counsel, and while I attended very few of them, trying

to keep it as nonpartisan as possible, I want to say that no man could

have conducted a hearing with any more dignity, poise, industry and

success than Mr. McDermott, and I want to congratulate the President

and congratulate the country on his choice as a nominee, because I

have the utmost confidence in his loyalty, in his ability, his industry,

and his character. I thank you.

Chairman RUSSELL. Thank you, Senator.

Senator STENNIS. Mr. Chairman, may I just say one word? I left

the subcommittee that Senator Gillette referred to before it completed

its labor, but I certainly was most favorably impressed indeed with

Mr. McDermott, and marked him then as a very fine man, as well as a

fine lawyer, a man of outstanding ability.

I am delighted to know that he is going to be here with us. I think

he is capable of occupying very high positions, and I would like to

see him Governor of Iowa some day and come back to the Senate.

Chairman RUSSELL. Mr. McDermott, you are going to have a very

difficult time living up to the introductions we have had in this committee. We will be glad to hear from you if you want to make a

statement.

(The nomination reference and report together with the biography

of Mr. McDermott follow:)

NOMINATION REFERENCE AND REPORT

IN EXECUTIVE SESSION,

SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES,

May 3, 1961.

Ordered, That the following nomination be referred to the Committee on

Armed Services:

Edward A. McDermott, of Iowa, to be Deputy Director of the Office of Civil

and Defense Mobilization.

BIOGRAPHY OF EDWARD A. MCDERMOTT

Edward A. McDermott, attorney, was born June 28, 1920, in Dubuque County,

Iowa, and was educated at Columbia (now Loras) Academy, and received his

bachelor of arts degree from Loras College in 1939. He received his juris doctor

degree from the College of Law of the State University of Iowa in 1942, following

which he was admitted to the practice of law in the States of Iowa and Nebraska.

He served for a period of 3 years as attorney in the corporate law department

of Montgomery Ward & Co. in Chicago and before beginning private general

practice of law in Dubuque, Iowa, in 1947. In 1950 he served as chief counsel to

the U.S. Senate Subcommittee on Privileges and Elections in Washington,

D.C., following which he returned to Dubuque where, since 1951, he has been

engaged in the general practice of law as a partner in the firm of O'Conner,

Thomas, McDermott & Wright. He is admitted to practice in the State and

Federal courts of Iowa and the Supreme Court of the United States.
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Mr. McDermott is a member of his county, Iowa, and American Bar Associa- tions, the International Association of Insurance Counsel, American Judicature Society, Association of Insurance Attorneys, and other professional organizations.

He was a member of the board of governors of the Iowa State Bar Association from 1956 to 1960, and is at this time Iowa commissioner of the National Conference of Uniform Commissioners on State Laws. He has been a member of various committees of the American and Iowa Bar Associations, and has actively participated in the work of all professional organizations of which he is

a member. The National Conference of Uniform Commissioners on State Laws has long been interested in civil defense legislation and has helped perfect the Model State Civil Defense Act which has been enacted in whole or in part by all of the States.

He has been active in the civic affairs of his community, including service as president or a member of the board of directors of the United Fund, chamber of

commerce and other civic, welfare and charitable organizations, many of which participated in civil defense educational activities.

Mr. McDermott has served as a professor of business law and economics on the faculty of Loras and Clarke Colleges in Dubuque.

In 1945 he married Naola Spellman of Oak Park, Ill., and they have four children, Maureen, Edward A., Charles J., and Daniel J. He and his family reside at 296 North Grandview Avenue, Dubuque, Iowa, and his office is in the Fischer Building in that city.

STATEMENT OF EDWARD A. McDERMOTT, NOMINEE TO BE DEPUTY

DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF CIVIL AND DEFENSE MOBILIZATION

Mr. MoDER3forr. Senator, my first regret is that Mrs. McDermott and my children were not here to hear that because it might be very helpful in that area.

I am also very grateful for the generous support which I have re- ceived from our Senators from Iowa.

To conserve the time of the committee I have already submitted to you a condensed biographical statement, and also a statement that I

prepared to make to this committee, and if it is satisfactory with you I will submit it as a written statement and not take your time to read it.

Chairman RUSSELL. Very well. That will be all right, Mr. McDermott.

(The prepared statement of Mr. McDermott follows:)

Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, the receipt of this honor and assignment from the President of the United States is unexpected but I am humbly grateful for the opportunity to serve his administration and the people of the United States in this assignment. The challenges of this new responsi- bility are varied and great, and I hope that my service fully justifies the con- fidence he has reposed in me.

I have submitted to the members of the committee, and therefore will not detail at this time, a biographical summary of my personal and professional background and experience. I was previously honored with an opportunity to serve the Senate of the United States as a committee counsel, and that ex- perience, I am sure, will be helpful in appreciating and dealing effectively with the close working relationships between the executive and legislative branches of our democratic system.

Being aware of the high standards of the Senate and the President, relating to the avoidance of conflict of interest, I have, prior to this date, divested myself of any interests that could in any manner conflict with the obligations of trust that inhere in this proposed assignment. In my years of private practice of law in Iowa, in an agricultural community of 60,000 people, I have acquired no client relationships that can become involved in the areas of this new responsi- bility. My personal assets are represented by commercial and residential real estate, Government securities, and small stockholdings in companies in no way related to civil defense or defense mobilization planning.
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I am vitally interested in the area of governmental activity in which the

President has asked me to serve. As a commissioner of the National Conference

on Uniform Laws, I am familiar with certain aspects of the civil defense problem.

I have some comprehension of the inadequacies and ineffectiveness of the programs of the past and the imperative character of the job that must be done.

With your approval, I will devote my full energy and best talents to the development of an efficient and effective plan for civil defense and defense mobilization,

within the guidelines to be established by the Chief Executive, and with the

counsel and support of the Congress and the people of the United States.

I regard it a privilege to be afforded once again the opportunity for public

service and have a firm conviction that in the months and years ahead much can

be accomplished in the attainment of our national security goals.

Chairman RUSSELL. I notice you state you have divested yourself of

any holdings that might possibly involve a conflict of interest with

your duties there.

Mr. McDFaimorr. I have, sir.

Chairman RUSSELL. Any questions? Senator Saltonstall.

Senator SALTONSTALL. Mr. Chairman, I have no questions. I make

this observation: I have never seen a gentleman come before us who

had more responsible backing than you, Mr. McDermott.

Mr. McDERmorr. I hope, Senator, that I can justify the confidence

that these distinguished gentlemen have placed in me.

Chairman RUSSELL. Any further questions?

Senator CANNON. Mr. Chairman, I might just add that as chairman

of the Privileges and Elections Subcommittee, now perhaps I made a

mistake in not getting him first for that committee.

Chairman RUSSELL. Well, we are glad to have had you here Mr..

McDermott, and your prepared statement, as well as your biographical resume, have been inserted in the record.

Mr. McDEmmorr. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.

(The nomination of Mr. McDermott was subsequently approved by

the committee in executive session and confirmed by the Senate on

May 19, 1961.)

NOMINATION OF JOHN H. RUBEL, OF CALIFORNIA, TO BE AN

ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE

Chairman Russ-Riff,. The next nomination is that of Mr. John H.

Rubel, of California to be an Assistant Secretary of Defense. Have

a seat, Mr. Rubel. Dr. Brown, do you desire to come to the table?

Mr. BROWN. I would be happy to.

Chairman RUSSELL. I understand that Mr. Rubel will be designated

Assistant Secretary of Defense for Research, and that he is going to

fill one of two vacancies in the authorized number of Assistant Secretaries of Defense.

Mr. Rubel, the committee will be glad for you to summarize your

background and experience. Mr. Rubel has been serving the GOVernment in various capacities for some time, and he is very highly

regarded by all who know him. We are glad to have you here, Mr.

Rubel.

(The nomination reference and report, together with the biographical sketch of Mr. Rubel follow:)
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NOMINATION REFERENCE AND REPORT

IN EXECUTIVE SESSION,

SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES,

May 11,1961.

Ordered, That the following nomination be referred to the Committee on

Armed Services:

John H. Rubel, of California, to be an Assistant Secretary of Defense.

BIOGRAPHY OF JOHN H. RUBEL

Mr. John H. Rubel was appointed Deputy Director of Defense Research and

Engineering on April 1, 1960.

Mr. Rubel had been Assistant Director of Defense Research and Engineering

( Strategic Weapons) since May 19, 1959.

Mr. Rubel, who was born in Chicago, April 27, 1920, received his B.S. in electrical engineering with honor from the california Institute of Technology in

1942. Following his graduation he was associated with the General Electric Co.

for 34 years in the GE Research Laboratories, briefly with Lockheed Aircraft Co.,

and then joined Hughes Aircraft Co. in 1946.

While with Hughes, Mr. Rubel contributed to the development of one of the

earliest successful automatic celstial navigation systems in this country. He

also was associated with the development of the Falcon family of missiles. In

1952 he joined the radar laboratories later renamed the Airborne Systems Laboratories of which he was named director in 1955. It was from this post that Mr.

Rubel came to the Defense Department on May 19, 1959.

Mr. Rubel's industrial experience encompassed the field of airborne systems

including radar, digital and analog computers, guidance and control systems,

communications subsystems, etc.

With the Department of Defense, Mr. Rubel's responsibilities have included

research, engineering, and engineering management aspects of long-range strategic

strike forces currently in being, under development or contemplated for future

development. He has also been concerned with related matters including operations analysis relating to the design of strategic weapons systems.

As deputy to Dr. Herbert F. York, Director of Defense Research and Engineering, Mr. Rubel's responsibilities have encompassed the entire field of military

systems. Mr. Rubel served as Acting Director of Defense Research and Engineering during the several months of Dr. York's recovery from his illness in the

summer and fall of 1960. For his service as Deputy Director D.R. & E. and

Acting Director, D.R. & E., Mr. Rubel received the Secretary of Defense Meritorious Civilian Service Award of January 16, 1961.

Mr. Rubel is married and has three children. They were residents of Los

Angeles, Calif., before moving to Washington, D.C.

Chairman RUSSELL. Mr. Rubel, if you would like to give us a little

summary of your background and experience, you may do so. We

would also like to have a statement concerning your security holdings

in companies having defense contracts.

STATEMENT OF JOHN H. RUBEL, NOMINEE TO BE AN ASSISTANT

SECRETARY OF DEFENSE

Mr. RUBEL. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, you have before you

an outline of my biographical sketch and background. I will summarize it for you very briefly.

I was born in Chicago, Ill., lived there until I was 11 years old.

We moved to Los Angeles, Calif., and I went to school there.

I graduated from the California Institute of Technology in 1942 as

an electrical engineer.
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During the war years I worked at the research laboratories at the

General Electric Co. After the war I returned to Los Angeles and,

after a short stay at Lockheed, I joined the Hughes Aircraft Co.,

where I remained for 13 years.

For the last 5 years at the Hughes Aircraft Co. I was director of

the Airborne Systems Laboratories, responsible for the development

of airborne fire control equipment, radars, computers, communication,

guidance systems associated with our Air Force interceptor aircraft,

and some of our Navy aircraft, too.

More than 2 years ago I left the Hughes Aircraft Co. on leave of

absence to become Assistant Director, Defense Research and Engineering for Strategic Weapons under Dr. York.

After I had been here for about 8 or 9 months, I resigned from the

Hughes Aircraft Co. altogether and subsequently, somewhat more than

a year ago, I became Deputy Director of Defense Research and Engineering.

During Dr. York's illness last fall, for approximately 31/2 months,

I was the Acting Director of Defense Research and Engineering.

Senator SALTONSTALL. What was that last statement, please, Mr.

Rubel?

Mr. RUBEL. Senator Saltonstall, during Dr. York's illness last year,

for about 31/2 months, I was the Acting Director of Defense Research

and Engineering.

You have before you a list of my security holdings. The General

Counsel of the Department of Defense is reviewing these.

I wish to advise the committee that if confirmed I will dispose of

those securities which represent a conflict of interest, to the committee's satisfaction.

Chairman RUSSELL. Are there any questions? We were glad to

have you here, Mr. Rubel, and we wish you well in your new title. I

do not know that your work will greatly change, but we wish you well.

Mr. RUBEL. Thank you Mr. Chairman.

Senator SYMINGTON. Mr. Chairman, I would like before Mr. Rubel

goes, to say that in my opinion he is unusually well qualified for the

position to which the President has nominated him, based on his experience and his reputation.

Chairman RUSSELL. Thank you, Senator Symington, and thank you,

Mr. Rubel.

Senator SYMINGTON. Mr. Chairman, I would also, if I may, like to

express my approval and support for the nomination of Mr. McDermott. I was not here when he was considered, and I would like

to have that in the record.

Chairman RUSSELL. Before we leave the Rubel nomination, I have

been requested to announce that Senator Engle, who is unavoidably

absent this morning, strongly supports Mr. Rubel and asks me to

exercise his proxy for Mr. Rubel's favorable report on the nomination.

(The nomination of Mr. Rubel was subsequently approved by the

committee in executive session and confirmed by the Senate on May

19, 1961.)
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NOMINATION OF PAUL R. IGNATIUS, TO BE AN ASSISTANT

SECRETARY OF THE ARMY

Chairman RUSSELL. The next nomination to be considered by the

committee is that of Paul R. Ignatius, of Massachusetts, who has been

nominated to be an Assistant Secretary of the Army. Have a seat,

Mr. Ignatius. We are glad to have you here.

(The nomination reference and report, together with the biographical sketch of Mr. Ignatius, follow:)

NOMINATION REFERENCE AND REPORT

IN EXECUTIVE SESSION,

,SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES,

May 8, 1961.

Ordered, That the following nomination be referred to the Committee on

Armed Services:

Paul R. Ignatius, of Massachusetts, to be Assistant Secretary of the Army.

BIOGRAPHY OF PAUL R. IGNATIUS

Paul R. Ignatius was born in Los Angeles, Calif., in 1920. He attended public

schools in Glendale, a suburb of Los Angeles. In 1942, he received an A.B. degree with honors from the University of Southern California, and was elected

to Phi Beta Kappa.

During World War II, Mr. Ignatius served as a lieutenant in the Navy,

principally as an aviation ordnance officer aboard the carrier, Manila Bay, in the

Pacific. For a brief period of time he was a member of a staff responsible for

preparing a comprehensive manual for the Navy's Bureau of Supplies and Accounts.

In February of 1947, Mr. Ignatius was awarded the degree of master in business administration from Harvard University. In the following 3 years he

served as a research assistant and as an instructor in business administration at

Harvard. He resigned from the Harvard staff in 1950 to form, with two of

his Harvard Business School associates, the management consulting and research

firm, Harbridge House, Inc.

During the 11 years since its founding, Mr. Ignatius played a major role in

the development and expansion of Harbridge House. A great part of this

effort was devoted to consulting and research in military supply and procurement, and in the procurement responsibilities of a large segment of defense industry. Among the major projects he undertook were the planning and estab- lishment of the Army Management School at Fort Belvoir and the Army Logistics Management Center at Fort Lee. In 1957 he was responsible for the evaluation of a comprehensive analysis of the supply systems of the three military departments in connection with the Department of Defense's logistics systems study project.

Mr. Ignatius has lectured at the Army War College, the Industrial College

of the Armed Forces, and the Foreign Service Institute. He has also taught

courses in defense industry procurement for the University of California and Fordham University. From time to time he has published articles on management and logistics subjects.

In 1947 Mr. Ignatius married Nancy Sharpless Weiser of Holyoke, Mass.

They have four children: David, 11; Sarah, 9; Amy, 7; and Alan, 2. The family lives in Weston, Mass.

Chairman RUSSELL. Mr. Ignatius, we will be glad to have you give

us a brief biographical statement, and also we would like to know something of your security holdings in companies doing defense business.
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STATEMENT OF PAUL R. IGNATIUS, NOMINEE TO BE AN ASSISTANT

SECRETARY OF THE ARMY

Mr. IGNATIUS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and members of the

committee. I am pleased to have a chance to appear before you

today.

I have submitted a brief biographical statement which I believe

you have and I would like to summarize briefly.

I was born in Los Angeles, attended schools out there, graduated

from the University of Southern California.

During World War II I served as a naval officer for a period of

about 4 years, the principal duty being on an aircraft carrier in

the Pacific, Manila Bay, by name.

This period of naval service also included a few months in Washington where I was assigned to the Bureau of Supplies and Accounts

to work on the training manual, comprehensive manual of procedures and policies, for the Bureau of Supplies and Accounts.

In 1947 I received a master's degree from the Harvard Business

School, and 3 years thereafter stayed on the staff at Harvard as a

research assistant and as an instructor in business administration.

In 1950, with two of my colleagues from the Harvard Business

School, I formed a consultant firm called Harbridge House, Inc.

In the 11 years or so since this firm was formed, I was active as an

officer and a director, and much of my work and the work of this

firm was concerned with procurement by the military services and

by defense industry.

We have played a major role, I believe, in the training of military

and civilian procurement officers.

We have had a great deal of work with defense industry in training

procurement people there.

A couple of major projects that I was involved in in the Army were

the creation of the Army Logistics Management Center at Fort Lee,

and the Army Command Management School at Fort Belvoir. I

was responsible for planning both of these schools and for helping

them to be carried out to completion. Both are operating.

I feel that this experience stands me in good stead for the duties

that I will assume if I am confirmed by the Senate.

You asked me to allude to my financial holdings. I have

supplied 

Chairman RUSSELL. We did not mean for you to allude to them

in any detail. We do not require any public statement as to amount

or information of that nature, but for the information of the committee under our policy which has obtained over the years, we ask

all of those who assume positions of this nature in the Department

of Defense to ascertain from the general counsel of that Department

whether they have any holdings in companies which are doing more

than $10,000 a year business with the Department of Defense.

Mr. IGNATIUS. I am happy to do that, Mr. Chairman and from

the list I have been advised by counsel in the Defense Department

that there are four companies in whom I hold shares of stock, three

of them Boston firms, Ginn & Co. Metcom, Inc., and Itek which do

business with the Department of Defense; and the fourth one, Strong

Cobb & Arner, is a supplier of medical supplies, and these all do busi-
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ness beyond the $10,000 limit, and I am prepared to dispose of these

securities if I am confirmed.

The statement also indicates how I plan to dispose of my holdings

in my own firm, Harbridge House, Inc., as one of the original stockholders. I will resign from Harbridge House if confirmed, and have

made arrangements to sell all of the shares of stock I own to other employees of the company.

Chairman RUSSELL. Are there any questions?

We are happy to have had you here, Mr. Ignatius.

Mr. IGNATIUS. Thank you very much.

(The nomination of Mr. Ignatius was subsequently approved by the

committee in executive session and confirmed by the Senate on May 19,

1961.)

NOMINATION OF BROCKWAY McMILLAN, TO BE ASSISTANT

SECRETARY OF THE AIR FORCE

Chairman RUSSELL. The next nomination was submitted to the

Senate on May 16 and is, therefore, not subject to approval under the

rules of the committee which require nominations to remain in the

committee for 7 days, and that is the nomination of Dr. Brockway

McMillan, of New Jersey,to be Assistant Secretary of the Air Force.

However, in order to avoid a multiplicity of hearings and any unnecessary delay in the consideration of this nomination, the Chair

took the liberty of inviting Dr. McMillan here this morning in the

thought that we might take the testimony as to his nomination, and

if the committee decides to approve it, it could be reported after the

7-day period had elapsed.

(The nomination reference and report together with the biographical sketch of Mr. McMillan follow:)

NOMINATION REFERENCE AND REPORT

IN EXECUTIVE SESSION,

SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES,

May 16, 1961.

Ordered, That the following nomination be referred to the Committee on

Armed Services:

Brockway McMillan, of New Jersey, to be Assistant Secretary of the Air Force.

BIOGRAPHY OF DR. BROCKWAY MCMILLAN

Born: March 30,1915, Minneapolis, Minn.

Degrees: B.S., Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 1936; Ph. D., 1939.

Career: Instructor, MIT, 1936-3D; Proctor fellow, 1930-40; science instructor,

mathematics, 1940-41; research associate, 1941-42, all at Princeton University;

served with Office of Scientific Research and Development, 1941; U.S. Naval

Reserve, 1942-45; Los Alamos Laboratory, AEC, 1946; research mathematician,

Bell Telephone Laboratories, 1946-59; Director of Military Research, Bell Telephone Laboratories, 1959 to present.

Political affiliation: Registered Republican. No active political participation.

Legal and voting residence, New Jersey, Sixth Congressional District. Congressman: Florence P. Dwyer.

Civic activity: Member of the local board of education, appointed by the

mayor.

Clubs: Associate in arts; Mathematics Society; Institute of Mathematical

Statistics.
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Publications: "Statistical Mechanics of Interacting Systems," "Electrical Networks Theory," and "Probability Theory and Random Processes."

Family: Married, 1942; three children.

Home address: 6 Hawthorne Place, Summit, N.J.

Brockway McMillan earned a B.S. degree and a doctorate in mathematics from

the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 1936 and 1939, respectively.

From 1938 to 1946, he taught mathematics at MIT and Princeton University; from

1940 to 1943, he was a research associate at Princeton. He served with the

Naval Reserve at the Naval Proving Ground, Dahlgren, Va., and at the Los

Alamos Laboratory in New Mexico from 1943 to 1946. In all three of these

last assignments, Dr. McMillan was concerned chiefly with the instrumentation

and conduct of field measurements in ballistics, on explosives, and on fire-control

systems.

Since 1946, he has been with Bell Telephone Laboratories, first as research

mathematician, later as assistant director of systems engineering, and now as

director of military research. Dr. McMillan has served as consultant to several

Government and military agencies and recently worked for 6 months in the office

of the Special Assistant to the President for Science and Technology.

Dr. McMillan is a past president of the Society for Industrial and Applied

Mathematics and a member of the Institute of Radio Engineers, the American

Mathematical Society, the Operations Research Society of America, the Institute

of Mathematical Statistics, the Mathematical Association of America, and the

American Association for the Advancement of Science.

Chairman RUSSELL. Dr. McMillan, we are pleased to have you here,

and we see that you are accompanied by the distinguished Secretary

of the Air Force, Secretary Zuckert. We would like to have a brief

statement from you as to your educational experience and background,

as well as any indication as to security holdings under the conflict-ofinterest rules before this committee. You may proceed with your

statement.

STATEMENT OF BROCK WAY McMILLAN, NOMINEE TO BE ASSISTANT

SECRETARY OF THE AIR FORCE

Dr. McMILLAN. Thank you, Senator. I have prepared a very brief

biographical sketch which I will submit, and also a statement of my

security holdings, and I am prepared to take any action which the

committee deems necessary as to the securities.

Chairman RUSSELL. We will ask you to submit those to the counsel

to ascertain those which do more than $10,000 business with the

Department.

Dr. MCMILLAN. Yes, sir.

I was born in Minneapolis, the son of an engineer who was

then a professor at the University of 

Minn.,

innesota.

I lived in Minneapolis and in the suburbs of Chicago throughout

my elementary and high school. I attended the Donner Institute of

Technology in Chicago, and then the Massachusetts Institute of Technology for 5 years, finishing in 1939 with a doctor's degree in mathematics.

I have a fellowship, and then a research instructorship at Princeton University, and resigned from the latter to join a so-called defense research project that was being conducted by Princeton at that

time.
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In 1943 I went on active duty in the Naval Reserve and served in

technical assignments at the Naval Proving Ground, Va., and at the

Los Alamos Laboratory in New Mexico.

I joined the Bell Telephone Labortories in New Jersey as a research

mathematician in 1946, and I have been with the Bell Laboratories

ever since.

In 1955 I became assistant director of systems engineering a post

involving engineering of telephone systems, and in 1959 I 'became

director of military research, a post which I have held up to this

time.

During both my period of service as a research mathematician and,

quite strongly, of course, since becoming director of military research,

I have been associated with a number of military projects with which

the Bell Laboratories is concerned, and I have frequently served as

consultant to agencies in the Department of Defense or in the Executive Office of the President with military problems.

I served for 6 months as a consultant to Dr. Killian's Office in 1958

and early 1959.

I shall, of course, resign from the Bell Telephone Laboratories upon

confirmation of my appointment, and sever all connections with the

laboratories or with the Bell System.

There are no pension rights—I retain no pension rights or anything of that sort when I leave the employment of this system.

Chairman RUSSELL. We do not ask you to dispose of any that have

accrued.

Dr. McMILLAN. Well, unfortunately, none have already accrued,

sir.

Senator SALTONSTALL. Mr. Chairman, may I ask a question?

Chairman RUSSELL. Yes. I merely wished to observe that we have

long since been accustomed to having nominees come before us who

have received their education in the State of Massachusetts, but you

are the first registered Republican we have had here recently.

[Laughter.]

Senator BRIDGES. I would say that offsets his being educated in

Massachusetts. [Laughter.]

Chairman RUSSELL. Senator Saltonstall.

Senator SALTONSTALL. I was going to add, Mr. Chairman, that

there are still a few registered Republicans in Massachusetts.

[Laughter.]

I would like to ask Dr. McMillan if the position of director of

military research in the Bell Telephone Laboratories is a responsibility or a position created with Government funds, or is that a position created with the telephone company funds?

Dr. McMILLAN. The Bell Laboratories organization is divided

rather sharply into that part of the organization whose work is almost

exclusively for the telephone system, and the other whose work is

almost exclusively, through the Western Electric Co., for the Government; and the director of military research is in the latter part of

the organization; yes.

Senator SALTONSTALL. SO it is a position paid for by the telephone

company?

Dr. McMtr,LAN. No, sir. The Bell Telephone Laboratories is, the

Research and Engineering Division is, essentially of the Western
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Electric Co., and all of the Government business in the form having to

do with weapons systems or very special electronics equipment, anything but common carrier communication service that the Bell System

does for the Government, is done through the Western Electric Co.,

and the Bell Telephone Laboratories serves as the engineering organization for Western Electric in that function.

Senator SALTONSTALL. And the Western Electric then receives compensation 

Dr. McMILLAN. Western Electric receives compensation from the

Government. We bill our services to the Western Electric Co., so

in any real sense the military part of the organization 

Senator SALTONSTALL. In an indirect way you have been working

for the Government on research work for several years?

Dr. McMILLAN. Yes.

Senator SALTONSTALL. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Senator CASE. Just one question, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman RUSSELL. Very well, Senator Case.

Senator CASE. In connection with your research work did you have

anything to do with the development of the systems employed on the

DEW line?

Dr. McMiLLAN. No. That was before my time in the active military

part of the organization. I was a member of the famous or infamous

Lincoln Summer Study Group which made some of the original proposals for the DEW line.

Senator CASE. Thank you.

Chairman RUSSELL. Any further questions?

Senator SYMINGTON. I would like to ask a question. Based on the

last remark of the nominee, why would you call the Lincoln studies

infamous.

Dr. McMILLAN. Well, there was a great deal of discussion of the

Lincoln Summer Study Group during the hearings on the Oppenheimer case in which some people expressed suspicion of the validity

of their findings, at least.

Senator SYMINGTON. Well, I did not know that is what you had in

mind.

Could I ask, Do you believe that the decisions of the Lincoln studygroup have turned out to be right from the standpoint of the development of the art of modern defense or if not, how do you feel about it ?

Dr. McMILLAN. Well, I participated wholeheartedly in the recommendations of the group. I had no misgivings at the time, and now,

after 9 years, I think we could have made better recommendations,

recommendations that would have, perhaps, been a little more practical in the light of what has happened since, but I do not have any

grave criticisms to make of it.

Senator SYMINGTON. The only purpose of my remark or of my

question is—we struggle with the problem of what to do, and our

opinion, up here—to find out whether you believed that this type

and character of defense is still essential or that the type and character of defense proposed is still essential to national security based

on the development of the military art.

Dr. McMILLAN. I believe that we are, in fact, much more dependent

upon early warning now than we were in 1952 when the DEW line

was at issue.
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Senator SYMINGTON. As I understand it, we have three lines, do we

not, the DEW line, and the middle line, and then a closer line?

Dr. McMILLAN. As I remember the situation as it now stands, yes.

Senator SYMINGTON. Do you feel now we need those three?

Dr. McMILLAN. I would not be prepared to comment. That requires some thought, Senator.

Senator SYMINGTON. All right. Thank you.

Chairman RUSSELL. Any further questions?

Senator STENNIS. One question.

Chairman Ru-ssEmi. Senator Stennis.

Senator STENNIS. As I understand it, you say the Bell Telephone

Laboratories now are owned entirely by private enterprise, that it is

not a Government setup of any kind?

Dr. McMiLLAN. That is correct.

Senator STENNIS. Just the major half of it, approximately, is devoted to Government projects.

Dr. McMILLAN. A half of the budget and about one-third of the

people.

Senator STENNIS. What are some of the major military items that

you have been connected with as director of this military research?

Dr. McMILLAN. Military research does not have any large part

of any specific name projects. We do typical research studies and

preparatory studies in advance of projects. But my organization is

associated and has some direct responsibilities with the Nike-Zeus, in

the Nike-Zeus project.

Senator STENNis. And before your time it had the DEW line?

Dr. McMILLAN. Well—the specific department did not, but 

Senator STENNIS. Bell Laboratories?

Dr. McMILLAN. Bell Laboratories did, yes.

Now, the largest single military project in the Bell Laboratories, by

a large margin, is the Nike-Zeus project.

Senator STENNIS. That is all, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman RUSSELL. Any further questions?

If not, we thank you very much, Dr. McMillan, for your appearance

here this morning and in assisting this committee.

This concludes the open part of the hearing, and the committee

will resolve itself into executive session.

(The committee subsequently approved the nomination of Dr. McMillan in executive session, which was reported to the Senate at the

end of the 7-day period required by committee rules, and confirmed

by the Senate on May 25, 1961.)

(Whereupon, at 11 :05 a.m., the committee proceeded in executive

session.)

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