From: Hirsch, Bruce R [mailto:Bruce.R.Hirsch@bge.com] 

Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 8:39 AM 

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Subject: RE: Replacement Cost for Transformer Pole 

Importance: High 

The current lesson to be learned is.......

Wet snow – lots and lots of wet snow ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ 

‐‐‐‐‐‐ utilities must design for the “bad weather” cases thus added weight and size only

complicates our ability to meet this                       

          requirement.  

                                                                                                                                Bruce

From: Rosenstock, Steven [mailto:SRosenstock@eei.org] 

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:24 AM 

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Subject: RE: Replacement Cost for Transformer Pole 

Based on other feedback I have received: 

Also, for high wind areas, if the surface area is increased, that adds to the torsional / torque loads, 

and poles need to be strengthened for that aspect as well. 

Safety clearance in urban areas can also be a problem for the width as well as the height. 

Typically, height is usually more of an issue. 

Steve Rosenstock 

Manager, Energy Solutions 

Edison Electric Institute 

srosenstock@eei.org

202-508-5465 

From: Hirsch, Bruce R [mailto:Bruce.R.Hirsch@bge.com] 

Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:21 PM 

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Subject: RE: Replacement Cost for Transformer Pole 

Mahesh, 

Thanks for the info. 

For item 1, what you describe is exactly what we saw with the 1/1/2010 requirements. 

As for item 2 – weight – from what I understand, a change in material from silicon to 

amorphous improves efficiency but adds weight. So I don’t understand your statement that the 

manufacturer can control weight by changing material. At some point, I am sure that the weight 

would go up more with silicon but then size would also become unmanageable. Seems we have 

the weight problem regardless of the material being used. Am I incorrect? 

 Bruce 

From: Mahesh P. Sampat [mailto:maheshsampat@bellsouth.net] 

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Subject: RE: Replacement Cost for Transformer Pole 

Hello Bruce: 

 
 Thank you for your explanation... Sorry for little delay in response, I was traveling. 

 

 I can certainly understand issues dealing with changing transformers where access is limited 

such as "back lot" services... hopefully these situations are limited to "older" systems and 

perhaps are smaller part of your entire system. 

 

 Now coming to Pole change-out issue... As I understand, there are two major considerations 

that could lead to pole change-out... 

 

1. Height: If the height of the transformer increases then that could lead to changing to 

"Taller" poles if the additional height creates encroachment issue... 

2. Weight: If combined load imposed by "all" users exceeds pole strength. 

 

 As for 1st issue, as transformer's efficiency increases, generally unit's "foot print" increases 

(tank diameter may increase) and height decreases... The reason for this is that due to higher 

efficiency (lower Losses) "less cooling" surface is needed... 

 

 As for 2nd issue, higher efficiency does results in higher weight due to additional materials... 

but as Wes's analysis has shown that this increase in weight can be "minimized" if the 

manufacturer is willing to change the core material... per his analysis, weight increase can be 

limited to less than 15% for 30% reduction in losses... Hopefully, in most cases you will have 

that much margin... 

 

 Hope this "Transformer Designer's" perspective is helpful... 

 

 Thank you. 

 

Best Regards, 

 

Mahesh Sampat 

EMS Consulting 

706-549-8155 

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 10/24/11, Hirsch, Bruce R <Bruce.R.Hirsch@bge.com> wrote: 

From: Hirsch, Bruce R <Bruce.R.Hirsch@bge.com> 

Subject: RE: Replacement Cost for Transformer Pole 

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"Ken Winder" <kwinder@mleainc.com> 
Date: Monday, October 24, 2011, 10:20 AM 

Mahesh, 

 

The answer to your question will probably be all over the map. In reality, utilities are governed 

by the pole loading standards as set forth in the NESC. WE build our system to meet wind or ice 

loading requirements. The area of the Country we are in determines how much loading we can 

put on a pole and still met the standards. Company practices including third part attachments and 

storm hardening requirements will also affect when a pole needs to be changed. Essentially 

anytime a change is made on the pole (either a change in equipment or an addition of equipment) 

the pole loading is checked to make sure it does not exceed the Code requirements. Thus, 

changing a transformer with a heavier transformer will trigger a review and possibly a pole 

change-out. 

 

Because we were purchasing transformers on a TOC basis (A/B factors), the 1-1-2010 DOE 

requirements had minimum effect on the size of our single ratio transformers. Our dual ration 

transformers (13kV/4kV primary), however, were greatly affected with respect to weight and 

size. The majority of cases where we need to replace a dual ratio transformer, require us to 

change the pole. The issue is compounded on “lot line” work where we cannot get a truck to the 

location. In these cases, men must manually pull the transformer up the pole to set it. This class 

of transformers is where we have started doing more refurbishment of used units to help resolve 

the replacement issues. 

 

We are also concerned of the increase in weight with respect to our truck capacities. Our 

Digger/Derricks which are used primarily for pole replacement but can also be used to lift a 

transformer are rated at 1,590 lbs. max. Our bucket trucks, which we buy equipped with a jib for 

lifting equipment, are our primary truck used for lifting transformers. They are rated from 660 

lbs to 2,000 lbs. max depending on how far the jib is extended. As transformers get heavier, the 

ability to use of a truck to set transformers is lost thus driving up transformer replacement costs 

to “lot line” type levels as discussed in a previous email. 

 

Finally, I would like to restate my concern with transformer size. When we talk size problems 

most people think of the vault and network type transformers. While these are a concern, my 

main concern is the size of pole type transformers. We in Baltimore (and I assume most large 

cities throughout the US) constantly battle to maintain safety clearances from other utilities on 

our poles and also from public infringement on the safety separations set by Code. In a congested 

city like Baltimore, even minimal changes in the size of a transformer can lead to major work to 

ensure the safety clearances are maintained. I know the goals are to improve air quality, but the 
certain death from electrocution is an even more ominous affect that could result from the 

changes being proposed. 

 

 

 Bruce 

 

From: Mahesh P. Sampat [mailto:maheshsampat@bellsouth.net] 

Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:10 PM 

To: Richard Parker; Kenneth Winder 

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brian.coffey@navigant.com; Hirsch, Bruce R; bsmith@federalpacific.com; Chris Boulduc; 

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zhimei.luo@navigant.com; Ken Winder 

Subject: Re: Replacement Cost for Transformer Pole 

 

Hello Ken: 

 

 Thank you for developing this info... It looks like DOE wasn't too far off in assuming cost of 

$2000/per pole change out... 
 

 The only other remaining question left that needs addressing is... 

 

 "When" does pole need to be changed? IE: What are "Engineering Rules/Limits" that 

result in pole change out...

 

 Once we know that, we/DOE can estimate change-out frequency... 

 

 Thank you. 

 

Best Regards, 

 

Mahesh 

 

--- On Wed, 10/19/11, Kenneth Winder <kwinder@mleainc.com> wrote: 

From: Kenneth Winder <kwinder@mleainc.com> 

Subject: Replacement Cost for Transformer Pole 

To: "Richard Parker" <richardparkerdc@gmail.com> 

Cc: phopkinson@hvolt.com, Aaron.Meyers@cooperindustries.com, 

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richardparkerdc@gmail.com, rick.anderson@faypwc.com, robert.saint@nreca.coop, 

robert.vanbuskirk@ee.doe.gov, rroy@nrdc.org, ScottB@lvmetals.com, snadel@aceee.org, 

srosenstock@eei.org, tballo@earthjustice.org, Teckman@nwcouncil.org, 

thomas.patzner@us.schneider-electric.com, vijay.tendulkar@onyxpower.com, 

zhimei.luo@navigant.com, "Chris Boulduc" <cabolduc@lbl.gov>, "Ken Winder" 

<kwinder@mleainc.com> 

Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 8:36 PM 

Richard and Committee: 

 Attached is a spreadsheet showing the cost to replace an existing pole in a three-phase 

distribution circuit with an existing single-phase distribution transformer mounted on it. This 

information was developed to estimate the cost to replace an existing pole with a new, higher 

strength pole required because of the increased weight of the distribution transformer. This 

estimate represents the cost to do this for my Cooperative. 

 Other Utilities will be furnishing this information for their systems. 

Kenneth A. Winder, PE 

 

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