Exhibit 02-006

1

6ENNETT J ONES

Loyola G. Keough

Direct Line: (403) 298-3429

e-mail: kcoughl n bennettjones.ca

Our File No.: 8794-1867

LLP 4500 Bankers Hall East

855 2nd Street SW

Calgary Alberta

Canada T2P 4K7

Tel 403.298.3100

Fax 403.265.7219

www.bennettjones.ca

September 23, 2004

Alberta Energy and Utilities Board

640 - 5th Avenue S.W.

Calgary, Alberta

T2P 3G4

Attention: Mr. Chris Burt

Application Officer

Dear Sirs:

Re: ATCO Electric Ltd. ("ATCO Electric")

2004 Phase II Distribution Tariff Application

Application No. 1349514

ATCO Electric is in receipt of a Notice of Motion, dated September 20, 2004, from the

REA/AAMDC seeking further response to certain Information Requests posed during the referenced

proceeding. As well, ATCO Electric has received the Board's procedural directions regarding the

disposition of this matter, by letter dated September 22, 2004.

In responding to this Motion, ATCO Electric is attempting to balance the desire to be as helpful as

possible with the clear position that it is entirely inappropriate to seek to revisit or address Phase I

matters in this proceeding. The purpose of a Phase II is not to debate revenue requirement items, it

is to allocate the revenue requirement to rate classes. The additional clarity provided via the Notice

of Motion has enabled ATCO Electric to better understand the purpose of certain Information

Requests. Where ATCO Electric has been able to obtain additional information with a reasonable

amount of effort, it has revised the Information Response and attached the revised information

hereto.

In certain other cases, REA/AAMDC reiterates their request for detailed information that is simply

not available to ATCO Electric. Notwithstanding the REA/AAMDC assertions, ATCO Electric

simply does not possess this information; and can not get it with a reasonable amount of effort. In

certain cases it would take months to develop the information and in other cases the information

systems required to generate the materials simply do not exist.

ATCO Electric submits that the additional information provided herewith represents a reasonable

response to the issues identified by the REA/AAMDC. In light of these revised responses,

ATCO Electric requests that the REA/AAMDC Motion be dismissed.

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BENNETT JONES 

Loyola G. Keough 

Direct Line: (403) 298-3429 

e-mail: keollghl@bennettjones.ca 

Our File No.: 8794-1867 

September 23,2004 

Alberta Energy and Utilities Board 

640 - 5th Avenue S.W. 

Calgary, Alberta 

T2P 3G4 

Attention: 

Dear Sirs: 

Mr. Chris Burt 

Application Officer 

lLP 

Re: ATCO Electric Ltd. (flATCO Electric") 

2004 Phase II Distribution Tariff Application 

Application No. 1349514 

Exhibit 02-006 

4500 Bankers Hall East 

855 2nd Street SW 

Calgary Alberta 

Canada T2P 4K7 

Tel 403.298.3100 

Fax 403.265.7219 

www.bennettjones.ca 

ATCO Electric is in receipt of a Notice of Motion, dated September 20, 2004, from the 

REAl AAMDC seeking further response to certain Information Requests posed during the referenced 

proceeding. As well, ATCO Electric has received the Board's procedural directions regarding the 

disposition of this matter, by letter dated September 22, 2004. 

In responding to this Motion, A TCO Electric is attempting to balance the desire to be as helpful as 

possible with the clear position that it is entirely inappropriate to seek to revisit or address Phase I 

matters in this proceeding. The purpose of a Phase II is not to debate revenue requirement items, it 

is to allocate the revenue requirement to rate classes. The additional clarity provided via the Notice 

of Motion has enabled A TCO Electric to better understand the purpose of certain Information 

Requests. Where ATCO Electric has been able to obtain additional information with a reasonable 

amount of effort, it has revised the Information Response and attached the revised information 

hereto. 

In certain other cases, REAl AAMDC reiterates their request for detailed information that is simply 

not available to ATCO Electric. Notwithstanding the REAlAAMDC assertions, ATCO Electric 

simply does not possess this information; and can not get it with a reasonable amount of effort. In 

certain cases it would take months to develop the information and in other cases the information 

systems required to generate the materials simply do not exist. 

A TCO Electric submits that the additional information provided herewith represents a reasonable 

response to the issues identified by the REAl AAMDC. In light of these revised responses, 

ATCO Electric requests that the REAl AAMDC Motion be dismissed. 
Exhibit 02-006

September 23, 2004

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Should you have any questions regarding this matter , please do not hesitate to contact the

undersigned.

Yours truly,

BENNE'I I' JONES LLP

Loyola Keough

LGK/el

Cc: REA/AAMDC

Interested Parties

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September 23,2004 

Page Two 

Exhibit 02-006 

Should you have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact the 

undersigned. 

Yours truly, 

BENNETTJONESLLP 

Loyola Keough 

LGKlel 

Cc: REAIAAMDC 

Interested Parties 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-13

Page 1 of 1

(Revised)

ATCO ELECTRIC

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 To:

Alberta Federation of REA's Ltd. and the

Alberta Association of Municipal Districts Counties

Revised : September 20, 2004

REA- MDC-ATCO-13

Request:

Please identify each REA purchased by ATCO in the past ten years . For each REA that

ATCO has purchased, please provide the purchase price , the net book value (if available),

the number of customers , and the number of kilometers of line , and the number and number

of transformers and kVA of transformer capacity.

Response:

ATCO Electric maintains that the matter of ATCO Electric's purchases of REAs is not related

to any Phase II issue . This is a commercial issue between the REA and ATCO Electric.

Furthermore , the information requested is not related to the parameters used to allocate

costs in this Phase II proceeding . ATCO Electric has also determined that a similar request

was made by the REA/AAMDC in the context of ATCO Electric's 1998 Phase II

GTA - REA/AAMDC-APL-24 (Attachment 1 ). This information was not considered relevant in

the context of that case . Notwithstanding , similar information was provided by ATCO Electric

in the context of the recent Generic Cost of Capital Proceeding in response to an Information

Request from the Consumers Group - CG-AE-3 (Attachment 2). Both of these information

responses are attached hereto.

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. I to REA-AAMDC Date submitted: September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

ATCO ELECTRIC 

Exhibit 02-006 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-13 

Page 1 of 1 

(Revised) 

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514 

Information Response No.1 To: 

Alberta Federation of REA's Ltd. and the 

Alberta Association Municipal Districts & Counties 

Revised: September 20, 2004 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-13 

Request: 

Please identify each REA purchased by ATCO in the past ten years. For each REA that 

ATCO has purchased, please provide the purchase price, the net book value (if available), 

the number of customers, and the number of kilometers of line, and the number and number 

of transformers and kVA of transformer capacity. 

Response: 

ATCO Electric maintains that the matter of ATCO Electric's purchases of REAs is not related 

to any Phase II issue. This is a commercial issue between the REA and ATCO Electric. 

Furthermore, the information requested is not related to the parameters used to allocate 

costs in this Phase II proceeding. ATCO Electric has also determined that a similar request 

was made by the REAlAAMDC in the context of ATCO Electric's 1998 Phase II 

GTA - REAlAAMDC-APL-24 (Attachment 1). This information was not considered relevant in 

the context of that case. Notwithstanding, similar information was provided by ATCO Electric 

in the context of the recent Generic Cost of Capital Proceeding in response to an Information 

Request from the Consumers Group - CG-AE-3 (Attachment 2). Both of these information 

responses are attached hereto. 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff 

Information Response No.1 to REA-AAMDC 

Application No. 1349514 

Date submitted: September 23, 2004 
REA-AAMDC-ATCO- 13 Attachment 1 (Revised)

iLEERTA POWER LI MITED

An ATCO Company

Exhibit 02-006

1998 General Tariff Application Phase II

Alberta Federation of REA's Ltd. / Alberta

Association of Municipal Districts & Counties

Information Request No. 1

Dated: August 26, 1998

REA/ DC-APL-24

Q. Distribution - REA Purchases

Please list each REA purchased in the past ten years (since January 1, 1988.)

Give the depreciated book value, the purchase price, the date the purchase

closed, and the number of customers served by the REA.

A. Alberta Power does not consider this information request to be relevant to the

1998 Phase II General Tariff Application.

September 16, 1998 Page 1 of 1

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REA-AAMDC-ATCO-13 Attachment 1 

ALBERTA POWER LIMITED 

An ATeO Company 

REAlAAMDC·APl·24 

Q. Distribution - REA Purchases 

Exhibit 02-006 

1998 General Tariff Application Phase II 

Alberta Federation of REA's Ltd. / Alberta 

Association of Municipal Districts & Counties 

Information Request No.1 

Dated: August 26, 1998 

Please list each REA purchased in the past ten years (since January 1, 1988.) 

Give the depreciated book value, the purchase price, the date the purchase 

closed, and the number of customers served by the REA. 

A. Alberta Power does not consider this information request to be relevant to the 

1998 Phase II General Tariff Application. 

September 16, 1998 Page 1 of 1 
REA-AAMDC-ATCO-13 Attachment 2 (Revised) Exhibit 02-006

CG-AE-3

Page 1 of 2

Generic Cost of Capital Proceeding

Application No. 1271597

Information Response No. 1 To:

Consumers Group

Received: July 25, 2003

CG-AE-3

Topic: Capital Structure by Sector

Reference : Minimum Information Requirements Part C

Issue/Subject: Business Risk

Quote:

Preamble: The CG wishes to determine any changes to rate base and

shareholder profitability resulting from loss or gain of new markets.

Request:

(a) For the year 2002, please identify any distribution assets which were either

purchased from other entities such as REAs or municipal utilities or sold to these

entities, including original book value of facilities purchased (sold), payment for

facilities purchased (sold) and number of customers gained (lost).

(b) Please provide the same information with respect to years 1998 to 2001.

(c) Please provide whether amounts in excess of book value of payments for

purchases were included in rate base, whether amounts of sales at less than

book value were charged in rates, and whether shareholders received profits

from sales at prices above book value since 1998 and the amounts thereof.

Generic Cost of Capital Proceeding Application No. 1271597

Information Response No. 1 to The Consumers Group Date submitted: August 15, 2003

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REA-AAMDC-ATCO-13 Attachment 2 (Revised) 

Electric 

Pipelines 

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Exhibit 02-006 

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CG-AE-3 

Page 1 of2 

Generic Cost of Capital Proceeding 

Application No. 1271597 

CG-AE-3 

Information Response No.1 To: 

Consumers Group 

Received: July 25,2003 

Topic: Capital Structure by Sector 

Reference: Minimum Information Requirements Part C 

Issue/Subject: Business Risk 

Quote: 

Preamble: The CG wishes to determine any changes to rate base and 

shareholder profitability resulting from loss or gain of new markets. 

Request: 

(a) For the year 2002, please identify any distribution assets which were either 

purchased from other entities such as REAs or municipal utilities or sold to these 

entities, including original book value of facilities purchased (sok:l), payment for 

facilities purchased (sold) and number of customers gained (lost). 

(b) Please provide the same information with respect to years 1998 to 2001. 

(c) Please provide whether amounts in excess of book value of payments for 

purchases were included in rate base, whether amounts of sales at less than 

book value were charged in rates, and whether shareholders received profits 

from sales at prices above book value since 1998 and the amounts thereof. 

Generic Cost of Capital Proceeding 

Information Response No.1 to The Consumers Group 

Application No. 1271597 

Date submitted: August 15, 2003 
Exhibit 02-006

CG-AE-3

Page 2 of 2

(d) Please identify any distribution assets that have been stranded due to bypass for

any reason in 2002 and prior historical years 1998 to 2001. Identify the rate

making treatment of that property and (e.g., was it retired, how did the retirement

affect growth plan and depreciation reserve, etc.)

Response:

(a) Please refer to CG-AE-3(b).

(b) Refer to table below.

REA Transfer Date Book Value* Purchase Price # Customers

Primrose May-98 185,635 366,812 120

Pioneer Nov 98 191,658 470,872 121

Rowley Apr-99 427,904 756,753 255

Michichi Jul-99 268,101 435,681 118

Whitemud Sep-99 1,048,121 1,612,450 326

Boyer River Sep-99 1,230,128 1,886,396 396

LaCrete Sep-99 2,903,663 3,995,353 764

8 Co-op Jun/Aug/Sep-00 2,723 12,688 8

Wapiti Jul-01 509,790 943,220 220

West Pouce Coupe Sep-01 71,406 128,160 29

Ottawa Nov-01 313,805 536,894 154

Morecambe Dec-01 365,550 652,400 133

Ranchlands Oct-02 1,794,254 2,854,302 567

* These are net book value figures

(c) The full acquisition cost was included in rate base.

(d) No assets have been stranded due to bypass since 1998.

Generic Cost of Capital Proceeding Application No. 1271597

Information Response No. 1 to The Consumers Group Date submitted: August 15, 2003

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

Exhibit 02-006 

CG-AE-3 

Page 2 of2 

(d) Please identify any distribution assets that have been stranded due to bypass for 

any reason in 2002 and prior historical years 1998 to 2001. Identify the rate 

making treatment of that property and (e.g., was it retired, how did the retirement 

affect growth plan and depreciation reserve, etc.) 

Response: 

(a) Please refer to CG-AE-3(b). 

(b) Refer to table below. 

REA Transfer Date Book Value* Purchase Price # Customers 

Primrose May-98 185,635 366,812 120 

Pioneer Nov-98 191,658 470,872 121 

Rowley Apr-99 427,904 756,753 255 

Michichi JUI-99 268,101 435,681 118 

Whitemud Sep-99 1,048,121 1,612,450 326 

Boyer River Sep-99 1,230,128 1,886,396 396 

LaCrete Sep-99 2,903,663 3,995,353 764 

8 Co-op Jun/Aug/Sep-OO 2,723 12,688 8 

Wapiti Jul-01 509,790 943,220 220 

West Pouce Coupe Sep-01 71,406 128,160 29 

Ottawa Nov-01 313,805 536,894 154 

Morecambe Dec-01 365,550 652,400 133 

Ranchlands Oct-02 1,794,254 2,854,302 567 

* These are net book value fIgures 

(c) The full acquisition cost was included in rate base. 

(d) No assets have been stranded due to bypass since 1998. 

Generic Cost of Capital Proceeding 

Information Response No.1 to The Consumers Group 

Application No. 1271597 

Date submitted: August 15, 2003 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-14

Page 1 of 1

(Revised)

ATCO ELECTRIC

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 To:

Alberta Federation of RE A's Ltd. and the

Alberta Association of Municipal District Counties

Revised : September 20, 2004

REA- MDC-ATCO-14

Reference : Section 4, Attachment 2

Request:

Please provide excerpts from ATCO's design manuals regarding the sizing of transformers,

poles, and conductor and the choice between single-phase and three-phase line.

Response:

Please refer to IPCAA-ATCO-18 (a to c) inclusive where several factors are considered when

determining the facilities required to service customer load.

Primary conductor sizes and the number of phases are established by project planners and

design engineers , considering factors such as ampacity , tension , mechanical loading, losses,

neutral or ground return currents , and voltage drop. Planners will select conductor sizes from

a list of Standard sizes . ATCO Electric's Distribution Construction Standards Manual does

not contain a Standard for selecting wire size or number of phases.

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted: September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

ATCO ELECTRIC 

Exhibit 02-006 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-14 

Page 1 of 1 

(Revised) 

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514 

Information Response No.1 To: 

Alberta Federation of and the 

Association Municipal District & Counties 

Revised: September 20,2004 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-14 

Reference: Section 4, Attachment 2 

Request: 

Please provide excerpts from ATCO's design manuals regarding the sizing of transformers, 

poles, and conductor and the choice between single-phase and three-phase line. 

Response: 

Please refer to I PCAA-ATCO-18 (a to c) inclusive where several factors are considered when 

determining the facilities required to service customer load. 

Primary conductor sizes and the number of phases are established by project planners and 

design engineers, considering factors such as ampacity, tension, mechanical loading, losses, 

neutral or ground return currents, and voltage drop. Planners will select conductor sizes from 

a list of Standard sizes. ATCO Electric's Distribution Construction Standards Manual does 

not contain a Standard for selecting wire size or number of phases. 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff 

Information Response No.1 to REA-MMDC 

Application No. 1349514 

Date submitted: September 23, 2004 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-15

Page 1 of 2

(Revised)

ATCO ELECTRIC

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 To:

Alberta Federation of REA's Ltd. and the

Alberta Association of Municipal District Counties

Revised : September 20, 2004

REA- MDC-ATCO-15

Reference : Section 4, Attachment 2

Request:

Identify each type of overhead conductor commonly used by ATCO in single phase

secondary distribution applications, provide the current cost per meter of length (installed),

and provide the carrying capacity in amps or kVa, and provide the loss characteristics.

Identify the minimum size pole that can carry each type of conductor in normal use.

Response:

Please refer to Section 4, Attachment 2, Exhibit 5, Schedule 1 of the application for

information on overhead conductors. Schedule 4 of the same exhibit provides costs on a

$/meter basis. Ampacity and resistance for sample wires are indicated in the table below.

Description Ampacity Resistance P 60 Hz

(summer) Ohms per KM)

3 x #1/0 Aluminum Open Wire 220A 0.626

3 x #3/0 Aluminum Open Wire 295A 0.475

2x4 ASC & 1x6 ACSR Triplex 95A 1.584

2x2 ASC & 1x4 ACSR Triplex 125A 0.994

2x1/0 ASC & 1x1/0 ACSR Triplex 170A 0.626

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted: September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

ATCO ELECTRIC 

Exhibit 02-006 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-15 

Page 1 of 2 

(Revised) 

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514 

Information Response No.1 To: 

Alberta Federation of REA's Ltd. and the 

Association of Municipal District & Counties 

Revised: September 20,2004 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-15 

Reference: Section 4, Attachment 2 

Request: 

Identify each type of overhead conductor commonly used by ATCO in single phase 

secondary distribution applications, provide the current cost per meter of length (installed), 

and provide the carrying capacity in amps or kVa, and provide the loss characteristics. 

Identify the minimum size pole that can carry each type of conductor in normal use. 

Response: 

Please refer to Section 4, Attachment 2, Exhibit 5, Schedule 1 of the application for 

information on overhead conductors. Schedule 4 of the same exhibit provides costs on a 

$/meter basis. Ampacity and resistance for sample wires are indicated in the table below. 

Description 

3 x #110 Aluminum Open Wire 

3 x #3/0 Aluminum Open Wire 

2x4 ASC & 1 x6 ACSR Triplex 

2x2 ASC & 1 x4 ACSR Triplex 

2x1/0 ASC & 1x1/0 ACSR Triplex 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff 

Information Response No.1 to REA-AAMDC 

Ampacit}! 

(summer) 

220A 

295A 

95A 

125A 

170A 

Resistance @ 60 Hz 

(Ohms per KMl 

0.626 

0.475 

1.584 

0.994 

0.626 

Application No. 1349514 

Date submitted: September 23, 2004 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-15

Page 2 of 2

(Revised)

Any of the overhead secondary conductors can be attached to a 10.67m pole , which is the

shortest pole that ATCO Electric would normally carry in inventory. The main secondary

distribution is often carried on the primary line poles as a double circuit . In that case, it is

often necessary to increase the height of the primary line poles by 1.5m - 3.Om to

accommodate the lower circuit.

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted: September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

Exhibit 02-006 . 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-15 

Page 2 of 2 

(Revised) 

Any of the overhead secondary conductors can be attached to a 10.67m pole, which is the 

shortest pole that ATCO Electric would normally carry in inventory. The main secondary 

distribution is often carried on the primary line poles as a double circuit. In that case, it is 

often necessary to increase the height of the primary line poles by 1.5m - 3.0m to 

accommodate the lower circuit. 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff 

Information Response No.1 to REA-AAMDC 

Application No. 1349514 

Date submitted: September 23, 2004 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAM DC-ATCO-16

Page 1 of 2

(Revised)

ATCO ELECTRIC

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 To:

Alberta Federation of REA's Ltd. and the

Alberta Association of Municipal District Counties

Revised : September 20, 2004

REA-AAM DC-ATCO-16

Reference : Section 4, Attachment 2

Request:

Identify each type of overhead conductor commonly used by Atco in three-phase secondary

distribution applications, provide the current cost per meter of length (installed), provide the

carrying capacity in amps or kVa, and provide the loss characteristics. Identify the minimum

size pole that can carry each type of conductor in normal use.

Response:

Please refer to Section 4, Attachment 2, Exhibit 5, Schedule 1 of the application for

information on overhead conductors. Schedule 4 of the same exhibit provides costs on a

$/meter basis. Ampacity and resistance for sample wires are indicated in the table below.

Description Ampacity Resistance Ca_ 60 Hz

(summer) Ohms/km

4 x #1/0 Aluminum Open Wire 220A 0.626

4 x #3/0 Aluminum Open Wire 295A 0.475

3x2 ASC & 1x2 ACSR Quadruplex 125A 0.994

3x1/0 ASC & 1x1/0 ACSR Quadruplex 110A 0.626

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted: September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

ATCO ELECTRIC 

Exhibit 02-006 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-16 

Page 1 of 2 

(Revised) 

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514 

Information Response No.1 To: 

Alberta Federation of REA's ltd. and the 

"""',,...."" Association of Municipal District & Counties 

Revised: September 20,2004 

REA·AAMDC·ATCO·16 

Reference: Section 4, Attachment 2 

Request: 

Identify each type of overhead conductor commonly used by Atco in three-phase secondary 

distribution applications, provide the current cost per meter of length (installed), provide the 

carrying capacity in amps or kVa, and provide the loss characteristics. Identify the minimum 

size pole that can carry each type of conductor in normal use. 

Response: 

Please refer to Section 4, Attachment 2, Exhibit 5, Schedule 1 of the application for 

information on overhead conductors. Schedule 4 of the same exhibit provides costs on a 

$Imeter basis. Ampacity and resistance for sample wires are indicated in the table below. 

Description 

4 x #110 Aluminum Open Wire 

4 x #3/0 Aluminum Open Wire 

3x2 ASC & 1x2 ACSR Quadruplex 

3x11O ASC & 1x1/0 ACSR Quadruplex 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff 

Information Response No.1 to REA-AAMDC 

Ampacit}! 

(summer) 

220A 

295A 

125A 

110A 

Resistance @ 60 Hz 

Ohms/km 

0.626 

0.475 

0.994 

0.626 

Application No. 1349514 

Date submitted: September 23, 2004 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-16

Page 2 of 2

(Revised)

Any of the overhead secondary conductors can be attached to a 10 . 67m pole , which is the

shortest pole that ATCO Electric would normally carry in inventory.

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted: September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

Exhibit 02-006 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-16 

Page 2 of 2 

(Revised) 

Any of the overhead secondary conductors can be attached to a 10.67m pole, which is the 

shortest pole that ATCO Electric would normally carry in inventory. 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff 

Information Response No.1 to REA-AAMDC 

Application No. 1349514 

Date submitted: September 23, 2004 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-17

Page 1 of 1

(Revised)

ATCO ELECTRIC

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 To:

Alberta Federation of A's Ltd. and the

Alberta Association of Municipal District Counties

Revised: September 20, 2004

REA- MDC-ATCO-17

Reference : Section 4, Attachment 2

Request:

Identify each type of underground conductor commonly used by Atco in single phase

secondary distribution applications, provide the current cost per meter of length (installed),

and provide the carrying capacity in amps or kVa, and provide the loss characteristics.

Response:

ATCO Electric has not updated its classification factors for underground cable within this

application. Therefore pursuant to s. (29)(1)(b) of the Rules of Practice, ATCO Electric can

confirm that this information is not available. Further, Section 4, Attachment 2 only refers to

the classification factors which were updated for this application. These classification factors

are Poles, Towers & Fixtures, Transformers, and Overhead Conductor.

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted: September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

ATCO ELECTRIC 

Exhibit 02-006 

REA-AAM DC-A TCO-17 

Page 1 of 1 

(Revised) 

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514 

Information Response No.1 To: 

Alberta Federation of REA's Ltd. and 

berta Association Municipal & Counties 

Revised: September 20,2004 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-17 

Reference: Section 4, Attachment 2 

Request: 

Identify each type of underground conductor commonly used by Atco in single phase 

secondary distribution applications, provide the current cost per meter of length (installed), 

and provide the carrying capacity in amps or kVa, and provide the loss characteristics. 

Response: 

ATCO Electric has not updated its classification factors for underground cable within this 

application. Therefore pursuant to s. (29)(1)(b) of the Rules of Practice, ATCO Electric can 

confirm that this information is not available. Further, Section 4, Attachment 2 only refers to 

the classification factors which were updated for this application. These classification factors 

are Poles, Towers & Fixtures, Transformers, and Overhead Conductor. 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff 

Information Response No.1 to REA-AAMDC 

Application No. 1349514 

Date submitted: September 23, 2004 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-18

Page 1 of 1

(Revised)

ATCO ELECTRIC

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 To:

Alberta Federation of REA's Ltd. and the

Alberta Association of Municipal District Counties

Revised : September 20, 2004

REA- MDC-ATCO-18

Reference : Section 4, Attachment 2

Request:

Identify each type of underground conductor commonly used by Atco in three-phase

secondary distribution applications, provide the current cost per meter of length (installed),

provide the carrying capacity in amps or kVa, and provide the loss characteristics.

Response:

Please refer to REA-AAMDC-ATCO-1 7.

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted: September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

ATCO ELECTRIC 

Exhibit 02-006 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-18 

Page 1 of 1 

(Revised) 

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514 

Information Response No.1 To: 

Alberta Federation REA's ltd. and the 

berta Association Municipal District & Counties 

Revised: September 20,2004 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-18 

Reference: Section 4, Attachment 2 

Request: 

Identify each type of underground conductor commonly used by Atco in three-phase 

secondary distribution applications, provide the current cost per meter of length (installed), 

provide the carrying capacity in amps or kVa, and provide the loss characteristics. 

Response: 

Please refer to REA-AAMDC-ATCO-17. 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff 

Information Response No.1 to REA-AAMDC 

Application No. 1349514 

Date submitted: September 23, 2004 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAM DC-ATCO-19

Page 1 of 1

(Revised)

ATCO ELECTRIC

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. I To:

Alberta Federation of REA's Ltd. and the

Alberta Association of Municipal District Counties

Revised : September 20, 2004

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-19

Reference : Section 4, Attachment 2

Request:

Please provide documentation of the process by which Atco trades off capital cost against

energy losses (load and no-load) when purchasing transformers. Specifically state the value

of energy and capacity used when making economic comparisons among bidders.

Response:

ATCO Electric considers the "trade-off' referred to by REA/AAMDC to raise issues that relate

to Phase I , not Phase II issues . Notwithstanding, the values requested may have some

relation to Phase II. Therefore , ATCO Electric has provided the following information.

Calculated transformer losses are stated in the bid documents by vendors, and are evaluated

according to the attached Standard (Attachment 1). This Standard is made available to the

vendors, and influences the design of transformers that are offered by the vendors.

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted: September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

ATCO ELECTRIC 

Exhibit 02-006 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-19 

Page 1 of 1 

(Revised) 

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514 

Information Response No.1 To: 

Alberta Federation of and the 

Alberta Association Municipal District & Counties 

Revised: September 20,2004 

REA·AAMDC·ATCO·19 

Reference: Section 4, Attachment 2 

Request: 

Please provide documentation of the process by which Atco trades off capital cost against 

energy losses (load and no-load) when purchasing transformers. Specifically state the value 

of energy and capacity used when making economic comparisons among bidders. 

Response: 

ATCO Electric considers the "trade-off' referred to by REAlAAMDC to raise issues that relate 

to Phase I, not Phase II issues. Notwithstanding, the values requested may have some 

relation to Phase II. Therefore, ATCO Electric has provided the following information. 

Calculated transformer losses are stated in the bid documents by vendors, and are evaluated 

according to the attached Standard (Attachment 1). This Standard is made available to the 

vendors, and influences the design of transformers that are offered by the vendors. 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff 

Information Response No.1 to REA-AAMDC 

Application No. 1349514 

Date submitted: September 23,2004 
REA-AAMDC-ATCO-19 Attachment 1 (Revised) Exhibit 02-006

SPECIFICATION NO REVISION NO EFFECTIVE DATE PAGE

999 0 June 12, 2000 1 of 1

DESCRIPTION PREPARED BY

Distribution Transformer

L E l ti

APPROVED BY

oss va ua on APPROVED BY

1) The following formulas shall be used to evaluate transformer losses:

Where: P = quoted price

Ke = core loss in kW

Kr = copper loss in kW

Secondary Voltage above 120/208

Pn = P + 4190 (Ks) + 3440 (Kr)

Secondary Voltage 120/208 and below

Pn = P + 4190 (Kc) + 2010 (Kr)

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-19 Attachment 1 (Revised) 

SPECIFICATION NO 

999 

REVISION NO EFFECTIVE DATE 

DESCRIPTION 

Distribution Transformer 

loss Evai uation 

o June 12, 2000 

PREPARED BY 

APPROVED BY 

APPROVED BY 

1) The following formulas shall be used to evaluate transformer losses: 

Where: P = quoted price 

Kc = core loss in kW 

Kr = copper loss in kW 

Secondary Voltage above 120/208 

Pn = P + 4190 (Kc) + 3440 (Kr) 

Secondary Voltage 120/208 and below 

Pn = P + 4190 (Kc) + 2010 (Kr) 

Exhibit 02-006 

PAGE 

1 of 1 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAM DC-ATCO-20

Page 1 of 1

(Revised)

ATCO ELECTRIC

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 To:

Alberta Federation of RE A's Ltd. and the

Alberta Association of Municipal Districts Counties

Revised : September 20, 2004

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-20

Request:

What is the total cost of capacitors on the Atco distribution system? Divide into rural and

non-rural if available. Identify the specific plant cost category where Atco includes capacitors

(e.g., transformers, conductor, etc.), as well as the cost category where they are included in

Section 4, Attachment 2 (Foster & Associates study) Exhibits 3, 4, and 5.

Response:

ATCO Electric reiterates its original response and confirms that this information cannot be

obtained with reasonable effort. Hence, pursuant to s. 29( 1)(b) of the Rules of Practice,

ATCO Electric does not have the information at the level of detail required in order to be able

to provide an answer as to the total cost of capacitors on the Distribution system. Capacitors

are included in the Transformer asset account ; this would also be the account/category

where they are included in the Foster Associates, Inc. study.

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted : September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

ATCO ELECTRIC 

Exhibit 02-006 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-20 

Page 1 of 1 

(Revised) 

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514 

Information Response No.1 To: 

Alberta of and the 

Alberta Association Municipal Districts & Counties 

Revised: September 20,2004 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-20 

Request: 

What is the total cost of capacitors on the Atco distribution system? Divide into rural and 

non-rural if available. Identify the specific plant cost category where Atco includes capacitors 

(e.g., transformers, conductor, etc.), as well as the cost category where they are included in 

Section 4, Attachment 2 (Foster & Associates study) Exhibits 3, 4, and 5. 

Response: 

ATCO Electric reiterates its original response and confirms that this information cannot be 

obtained with reasonable effort. Hence, pursuant to s. 29(1 )(b) of the Rules of Practice, 

ATCO Electric does not have the information at the level of detail required in order to be able 

to provide an answer as to the total cost of capacitors on the Distribution system. Capacitors 

are included in the Transformer asset account; this would also be the account/category 

where they are included in the Foster Associates, Inc. study. 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff 

Information Response No.1 to REA-AAMDC 

Application No. 1349514 

Date submitted: September 23, 2004 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAM DC-ATCO-21

Page 1 of 1

(Revised)

ATCO ELECTRIC

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 To:

Alberta Federation of RE A's Ltd. and the

Alberta Association of Municipal Districts Counties

Revised : September 20, 2004

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-21

Reference : Section 4, Attachment 2

Request:

Please identify the total costs that Atco spent on surveying as a part of capital projects in

each year from 2000-2003 recorded and 2004 forecast.

Response:

In the materials supporting the Notice of Motion , REA/AAMDC indicate that ".... we have not

seen such high surveying costs ....". ATCO Electric is not here to debate the magnitude of

surveying costs in the context of this Phase II application . Furthermore , as previously stated,

pursuant to s. 29(1 )(b) of the Rules of Practice , ATCO Electric does not have this information

available to it. ATCO Electric does not separately record surveying costs nor does it forecast

these costs as a separate entity. The survey costs contained in Section 4 , Attachment 2 are

field estimates used for purposes of the classification factor study and are ATCO Electric's

best estimate when installing new services.

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted: September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

ATCO ELECTRIC 

Exhibit 02-006 

REA-AAMDG-ATGO-21 

Page 1 of 1 

(Revised) 

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514 

Information Response No.1 To: 

Alberta Federation of REA's Ltd. and 

Alberta Association Municipal & Counties 

Revised: September 20, 2004 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-21 

Reference: Section 4, Attachment 2 

Request: 

Please identify the total costs that Atco spent on surveying as a part of capital projects in 

each year from 2000-2003 recorded and 2004 forecast. 

Response: 

In the materials supporting the Notice of Motion, RENAAMDG indicate that " .... we have not 

seen such high surveying costs .... ". ATGO Electric is not here to debate the magnitude of 

surveying costs in the context of this Phase II application. Furthermore, as previously stated, 

pursuant to s. 29(1 )(b) of the Rules of Practice, ATGO Electric does not have this information 

available to it. ATGO Electric does not separately record surveying costs nor does it forecast 

these costs as a separate entity. The survey costs contained in Section 4, Attachment 2 are 

field estimates used for purposes of the classification factor study and are ATGO Electric's 

best estimate when installing new services. 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff 

Information Response No.1 to REA-AAMDC 

Application No. 1349514 

Date submitted: September 23, 2004 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-22

Page 1 of 3

(Revised)

ATCO ELECTRIC

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 To:

Alberta Federation of RE A's Ltd. and the

Alberta Association of Municipal Districts Counties

Revised : September 20 2004

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-22

Reference : Section 4, Attachment 2, Foster Associates Report

Request:

Regarding Section 4, Attachment 2, Exhibit 4 (transformer zero-intercept study):

(a) Please provide documentation supporting the cost of other materials, easements,

surveying, labor, and overheads included in the transformer installation cost in

Schedule 4, page 1.

(b) Provide specific support for the contention that the labor costs are identical for all

sizes of transformer on Exhibit 4, Schedule 3.

(c) For each transformer listed on Exhibit 4, Schedule 1, state whether the transformer is

single-phase or three-phase and whether it is pole-mounted, pad-mounted, or installed

in an underground vault.

(d) Please provide the total dollar cost of the transformers installed in each year

(materials plus installation), as shown on Exhibit 4, Schedule 4, page 2.

(e) Does the minimum size study assume that each customer is separately served by a

transformer?

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted : September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

ATCO ELECTRIC 

Exhibit 02-006 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-22 

Page 1 of 3 

(Revised) 

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514 

Information Response No.1 To: 

Alberta Federation of REA's ltd. and the 

Alberta Association Municipal Districts & Counties 

Revised: September 202004 

REA·AAMDC·ATCO·22 

Reference: Section 4, Attachment 2, Foster Associates Report 

Request: 

Regarding Section 4, Attachment 2, Exhibit 4 (transformer zero-intercept study): 

(a) Please provide documentation supporting the cost of other materials, easements, 

surveying, labor, and overheads included in the transformer installation cost in 

Schedule 4, page 1. 

(b) Provide specific support for the contention that the labor costs are identical for all 

sizes of transformer on Exhibit 4, Schedule 3. 

(c) For each transformer listed on Exhibit 4, Schedule 1, state whether the transformer is 

single-phase or three-phase and whether it is pole-mounted, pad-mounted, or installed 

in an underground vault. 

(d) Please provide the total dollar cost of the transformers installed in each year 

(materials plus installation), as shown on Exhibit 4, Schedule 4, page 2. 

(e) Does the minimum size study assume that each customer is separately served by a 

transformer? 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff 

Information Response No.1 to REA-AAMDC 

Application No. 1349514 

Date submitted: September 23, 2004 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-22

Page 2 of 3

(Revised)

Response:

(a) and (b)

Estimated costs for added material, survey, labor and overhead were obtained from

field staff who have considerable experience on the acquisition of such items.

(c) Pursuant to s. 29( 1)(b) of the Rules of Practice , the requested information is not

available . ATCO Electric does not maintain its fixed assets with the requested

designations. ATCO Electric cannot distinguish those situations where single phase

transformers are used in three phase designs. With respect to the listed transformers

for the (d) part of this question , after TKVA ###, the letters OH refer to overhead (pole

mounted ) transformers, and the letters PL refer to pad mounted loop transformers.

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted: September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

Response: 

(a) and (b) 

Exhibit 02-006 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-22 

Page 2 of 3 

(Revised) 

Estimated costs for added material, survey, labor and overhead were obtained from 

field staff who have considerable experience on the acquisition of such items. 

(c) Pursuant to s. 29(1)(b) of the Rules of Practice, the requested information is not 

available. ATCO Electric does not maintain its fixed assets with the requested 

designations. ATCO Electric cannot distinguish those situations where single phase 

transformers are used in three phase designs. With respect to the listed transformers 

for the (d) part of this question, after TKVA ###, the letters OH refer to overhead (pole 

mounted) transformers, and the letters PL refer to pad mounted loop transformers. 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff 

Information Response No.1 to REA-AAMDC 

Application No. 1349514 

Date submitted: September 23, 2004 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAM DC-ATCO-22

Page 3 of 3

(Revised)

(d) The total costs of transformers per year are as follows:

TRANSFORMERS $

Description Total 2003 2002 2001 2000 1999 1998 1997 1996 1995

1 TKVA 10 OH 12.4GY/7.2/120/240 4,461,162 448,829 382,244 345,253 357,583 290,999 579,532 660,913 685,574 710,235

2 TKVA 10 OH 24.9GY/14.4/120/240 24,198,213 1,975,103 3,004,923 2,474,643 2,733,378 2,474,643 3,842,613 3,189,369 1,741,984 2,761,558

3 TKVA 15 OH 12.4GY/7.2/120/240 690,745 42,546 50,054 170,184 20,022 - 32,535 235,254 87,595 52,557

4 TKVA 15 OH 24.9GY/14.4/120/240 3,997,008 445,585 371,321 172,399 466,804 538,416 530,459 692,249 381,930 397,844

5 TKVA 25 OH 12.4GY/7.2/120/240 724,427 52,736 49,960 133,228 105,472 33,307 49,960 227,598 69,390 2,776

6 TKVA 25 OH 2.4/4.16Y/120/240TA 1,676,889 115,250 69,150 57,625 478,288 97,963 481,169 242,025 69,150 66,269

7 TKVA 25 OH 24.9GY/14.4/120/240 7,727,586 905,372 870,550 528,134 1,186,850 525,232 1,311,629 1,105,599 493,312 800,906

8 TKVA 25 PL 12.4GY/7.2X24.9GY/1 822,521 202,960 170,913 149,549 74,775 - 117,503 10,682 - 96,139

9 TKVA 25 PL 24.9GY/14.4/240/120 91,949 10,217 - - 40,866 - - 40,866 - -

10 TKVA 37.5 OH 2.4/4.16/120/240 6,945 6,945 - - - - - - - -

11 TKVA 50 OH 12.4GY/7.2/120/240 172,009 55,043 34,402 13,761 27,521 - 24,081 17,201 - -

12 TKVA 50 OH 14.4Y/2.4 11,908 7,939 - - - - - - - 3,969

13 TKVA 50 OH 2.4/4.16Y/120/240TA 539,981 78,747 63,748 7,500 138,745 104,996 104,996 26,249 7,500 7,500

14 TKVA 50 OH 24.9GY/14.4/120/240 4,613,876 625,084 404,060 424,781 490,397 286,641 866,829 652,712 466,223 397,153

15 TKVA 50 PL 24.9GY/14.4/240/120 8,335,077 1,060,618 1,383,415 749,350 1,002,976 1,060,618 1,245,074 830,049 703,236 299,740

16 TKVA 75 OH 12.4GY/7.2/120/240 7,555 3,778 - - - - 3,778 - - -

17 TKVA 75 OH 2.4/4.16Y/120/240TA 140,998 12,818 - - 102,544 8,545 17,091 - - -

18 TKVA 75 OH 2.4/4.16Y/2.4/208Y/ 10,703 5,351 - - 5,351 - - - - -

19 TKVA 75 OH 24.9GY/14.4/120/240 1,121,051 101,545 134,039 - 69,050 28,432 308,695 288,386 60,927 129,977

20 TKVA 75 PL 12.4GY/7.2/240/120 185,823 11,614 - - - - - 139,367 34,842 -

21 TKVA 75 PL 12.4GY/7.2X24.9GY/1 11,218 11,218 - - - - - - - -

22 TKVA 75 PL 24.9GY/14.4/240/120 2,955,848 344,479 444,488 422,264 411,152 255,581 511,162 333,366 222,244 11,112

23 TKVA 75 PL 4.16GY/2.4/240/120 33,909 33,909 - - - - - - - -

24 TKVA100 OH 14.4/7.2 20,900 - - - - 5,225 5,225 - - 10,450

25 TKVA100 OH 2.4/4.16Y/120/240TA 23,489 4,698 - - 4,698 - 9,396 4,698 -

26 TKVA100 OH 24.9GY/14.4/120/240 195,887 14,333 - 43,000 - - 57,333 28,666 9,555 43,000

27 TKVA100 PL 24.9GY/14.4/240/120 974,580 97,458 328,921 328,921 219,281 - - - - -

28 TKVA100 PL 4.16GY/2.4/240/120 31,981 31,981 - - - - - - - -

29 TKVA150 OH 2.4/4.16Y/2.4/208Y/ 14,290 - - - 7,145 - 7,145 - - -

30 TKVA150 OH 24.9/12.4GY/7.2TAP 64,200 5,836 - - - 17,509 5,836 11,673 - 23,346

31 TKVA150 OH 24.9GY/14.4/120/240 23,666 11,833 - - 11,833 - - - - -

32 TKVA150 OH 4.16Y/2.4/600Y/347T 55,771 27,885 - - - 27,885 - - - -

33 TKVA150 PL 4.16GY/2.4/208Y/120 176,508 66,190 - - 44,127 - 22,063 - - 44,127

34 TKVA250 OH 24.9/12.4GY/7.2TAP 168,276 8,414 8,414 - 16,828 - - 58,897 8,414 67,310

35 TKVA300 PL 4.16GY/2.4/208Y/120 47,428 47,428 - - - - - - - -

36 TKVA300 PL 4.16GY/2.4/480Y/277 49,570 - - - - 49,570 - - - -

37 TKVA333 OH 24.9/12.4Y/7.2 TAP 27,955 9,318 - 9,318 9,318 - - - - -

38 TKVA333 OH 24.9/7.2/14.4/7.2TA 23,810 7,937 - - - - - - 15,873 -

39 TKVA500 OH 14.4/24.9Y/2.4/4.16 57,376 - - - - 28,688 - - - 28,688

40 TKVA500 OH 14.4/24.9Y/277/480Y 49,790 - - - - - - - 49,790 -

41 TKVA500 OH 24.9/12.4GY/7.2TAP 207,589 21,851 21,851 10,926 - 10,926 - 32,777 21,851 87,406

42 TKVA500 OH 24.9/2.4/4.16YTAP 469,331 76,626 - - 57,469 86,204 - 57,469 67,047 124,516

43 TKVA500 OH 24.9/2.4TAP 9,776 9,776 - - - - - - - -

44 TKVA500 OH 24.9/277/480YTAP 387,319 27,666 18,444 - - - - 27,666 64,553 248,991

45 TKVA500 OH 4.16/14.4/24.9YTAP 118,581 - - - - - - 47,433 - 71,149

46 TKVA500 PL 4.16GY/2.4/600Y/347 91,369 30,456 30,456 30,456

TOTAL 65,826,843 7, 057,371 7,810,898 6,071,290 8,082,475 5,961 , 836 10 , 134,104 8, 961,163 5, 260,990 6,486,716

(e) No.

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted: September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

Exhibit 02-006 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-22 

Page 3 of 3 

(Revised) 

(d) The total costs of transformers per year are as follows: 

Description 

TKVA 10 OH 12.4GY/7.2/120/240 

2 TKVA 10 OH 24.9GY/14.4/120/240 

3 TKVA 15 OH 12.4GY/7.2/120/240 

4 TKVA 15 OH 24.9GY/14.4/120/240 

5 TKVA 25 OH 12.4GY/7.2/120/240 

6 TKVA 25 OH 2.4/4.16Y/120/240TA 

7 TKVA 25 OH 24.9GY/14.4/120/240 

8 TKVA 25 PL 12.4GY/7.2X24.9GY/1 

9 TKVA 25 PL 24.9GY/14.4/240/120 

10 TKVA 37.5 OH 2.4/4.16/120/240 

11 TKVA 50 OH 12.4GY/7.2/120/240 

12 TKVA 50 OH 14.4Y/2.4 

13 TKVA 50 OH 2.4/4.16Y/120/240TA 

14 TKVA 50 OH 24.9GY/14.4/120/240 

15 TKVA 50 PL 24.9GY/14.4/240/120 

16 TKVA 75 OH 12.4GY/7.2/120/240 

17 TKVA 75 OH 2.4/4.16Y/120/240TA 

18 TKVA 75 OH 2.4/4.16Y/2.4/208Y/ 

19 TKVA 75 OH 24.9GY/14.4/120/240 

20 TKVA 75 PL 12.4GYI7.2/240/120 

21 TKVA 75 PL 12.4GY/7.2X24.9GY/1 

22 TKVA 75 PL 24.9GY/14.4/240/120 

23 TKVA 75 PL 4.16GY/2.4/240/120 

24 TKVA100 OH 14.4/7.2 

25 TKVA100 OH 2.4/4.16Y/120/240TA 

26 TKVA100 OH 24.9GY/14.4/120/240 

27 TKVA100 PL 24.9GY/14.4/240/120 

28 TKVA100 PL 4.16GY/2.4/240/120 

29 TKVA150 OH 2.4/4.16Y/2.4/208YI 

30 TKVA150 OH 24.9/12.4GY/7.2TAP 

31 TKVA150 OH 24.9GY/14.4/120/240 

32 TKVA150 OH 4.16Y/2.4/600Y/347T 

33 TKVA150 PL 4.16GY/2.4/208Y/120 

34 TKVA250 OH 24.9/12.4GY/7.2TAP 

35 TKVA300 PL 4.16GY/2.4/208Y/120 

36 TKVA300 PL 4.16GY/2.4/480Y/277 

37 TKVA333 OH 24.9/12.4Y/7.2 TAP 

38 TKVA333 OH 24.9/7.2/14.417.2TA 

39 TKVA500 OH 14.4/24.9Y/2.4/4.16 

40 TKVA500 OH 14.4/24.9Y/277/480Y 

41 TKVA500 OH 24.9/12.4GY/7.2TAP 

42 TKV A500 OH 24.9/2.4/4.16YT AP 

43 TKV A500 OH 24.9/2.4TAP 

44 TKVA500 OH 24.9/277/480YTAP 

45 TKV A500 OH 4.16/14.4/24.9YT AP 

46 TKVA500 PL 4.16GY/2.4/600Y/347 

TOTAL 

(e) No, 

Total 2003 

4,461,162 448,829 

24,198,213 1,975,103 

690,745 42,546 

3,997,008 

724,427 

1,676,889 

7,727,586 

822,521 

91,949 

6,945 

172,009 

11,908 

539,981 

445,585 

52,736 

115,250 

905,372 

202,960 

10,217 

6,945 

55,043 

7,939 

78,747 

4,613,876 625,084 

8,335,077 1,060,618 

7,555 3,778 

140,998 

10,703 

1,121,051 

185,823 

11,218 

2,955,848 

33,909 

20,900 

23,489 

195,887 

974,580 

31,981 

14,290 

64,200 

23,666 

55,771 

176,508 

168,276 

47,428 

49,570 

27,955 

23,810 

57,376 

49,790 

207,589 

469,331 

9,776 

12,818 

5,351 

101,545 

11,614 

11,218 

344,479 

33,909 

4,698 

14,333 

97,458 

31,981 

5,836 

11,833 

27,885 

66,190 

8,414 

47,428 

9,318 

7,937 

21,851 

76,626 

9,776 

387,319 27,666 

118,581 

91,369 30,456 

65,826,843 7,057,371 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff 

Information Response No.1 to REA-AAMDC 

TRANSFORMERS $ 

2002 2001 2000 1999 

382,244 345,253 357,583 290,999 

3,004,923 2,474,643 2,733,378 2,474,643 

50,054 170,184 20,022 

371,321 172,399 466,804 538,416 

33,307 

97,963 

525,232 

49,960 

69,150 

870,550 

170,913 

34,402 

63,748 

404,060 

1,383,415 

134,039 

444,488 

328,921 

8,414 

21,851 

133,228 105,472 

57,625 478,288 

528,134 1,186,850 

149,549 74,775 

40,866 

13,761 27,521 

7,500 138,745 104,996 

424,781 490,397 286,641 

749,350 1,002,976 1,060,618 

102,544 8,545 

5,351 

69,050 28,432 

422,264 411,152 255,581 

43,000 

328,921 

9,318 

10,926 

4,698 

219,281 

7,145 

11,833 

44,127 

16,828 

9,318 

57,469 

5,225 

17,509 

27,885 

49,570 

28,688 

10,926 

86,204 

1998 1997 

579,532 660,913 

3,842,613 3,189,369 

32,535 235,254 

530,459 692,249 

49,960 227,598 

481,169 242,025 

1,311,629 1,105,599 

117,503 10,682 

24,081 

104,996 

866,829 

1,245,074 

3,778 

17,091 

308,695 

511,162 

5,225 

9,396 

57,333 

7,145 

5,836 

22,063 

40,866 

17,201 

26,249 

652,712 

830,049 

288,386 

139,367 

333,366 

4,698 

28,666 

11,673 

58,897 

32,777 

57,469 

1996 

685,574 

1,741,984 

87,595 

381,930 

69,390 

69,150 

493,312 

7,500 

466,223 

703,236 

60,927 

34,842 

222,244 

9,555 

8,414 

15,873 

49,790 

21,851 

67,047 

1995 

710,235 

2,761,558 

52,557 

397,844 

2,776 

66,269 

800,906 

96,139 

3,969 

7,500 

397,153 

299,740 

129,977 

11,112 

10,450 

43,000 

23,346 

44,127 

67,310 

28,688 

87,406 

124,516 

18,444 27,666 64,553 248,991 

47,433 71,149 

30,456 30,456 

7,810,898 6,071,290 8,082,475 5,961,836 10,134,104 8,961,163 5,260,990 6,486,716 

Application No. 1349514 

Date submitted: September 23, 2004 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-24

Page 1 of 1

(Revised)

ATCO ELECTRIC

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 To:

Alberta Federation of RE A's Ltd. and the

Alberta Association of Municipal Districts Counties

Revised : September 20, 2004

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-24

Reference : Section 4, Attachment 2

Request:

Please identify and provide the cost of the minimum sized transformer used by each

customer class, taking into account separate information for urban and rural if applicable.

Response:

The classification factor studies included in Section 4, Attachment 2 indicate minimum

system sizes for the assets studied. The study conceptually determines a minimum size

plant for the particular assets and does not, nor is it intended to , provide analysis on a rate

class basis. Therefore , pursuant to s. 29(1 )(b) ATCO Electric does not have the requested

information available at this level of detail as its records are not kept in this manner.

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted: September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

ATCO ELECTRIC 

Exhibit 02-006 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-24 

Page 1 of 1 

(Revised) 

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514 

Information Response No.1 To: 

Alberta Federation of Ltd. and the 

Alberta Association of Districts & Counties 

Revised: September 20, 2004 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-24 

Reference: Section 4, Attachment 2 

Request: 

Please identify and provide the cost of the minimum sized transformer used by each 

customer class, taking into account separate information for urban and rural if applicable. 

Response: 

The classification factor studies included in Section 4, Attachment 2 indicate minimum 

system sizes for the assets studied. The study conceptually determines a minimum size 

plant for the particular assets and does not, nor is it intended to, provide analysis on a rate 

class basis. Therefore, pursuant to s. 29(1)(b) ATCO Electric does not have the requested 

information available at this level of detail as its records are not kept in this manner. 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff 

Information Response No.1 to REA-AAMDC 

Application No. 1349514 

Date submitted: September 23, 2004 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAM DC-ATCO-25

Page 1 of 1

(Revised)

ATCO ELECTRIC

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 To:

Alberta Federation of RE A's Ltd. and the

Alberta Association of Municipal Districts Counties

Received : September 20, 2004

REA- DC-ATCO-25

Reference : Section 4, Attachment 2

Request:

Please provide all available information on the number of urban customers per transformer

for customer classes where more than one customer per transformer is likely (residential,

small commercial). Provide the average number of residential and small commercial

customers per transformer and any information on the distribution of transformers by number

of customers attached. Divide into urban and rural as applicable.

Response:

Please refer to AUMA-ATCO-20. ATCO Electric does not have the information in the detail

requested . However , a proxy to the information can be determined by utilizing the electronic

spreadsheet [Mif3.xls]Misce Input (Column F, Rows 19 - 67). By inverting the number the

average number of customers/transformer can be determined.

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted: September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

ATCO ELECTRIC 

Exhibit 02-006 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-25 

Page 1 of 1 

(Revised) 

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514 

Information Response No.1 To: 

Alberta Federation of REA's ltd. and 

Alberta Association of Municipal Districts & Counties 

Received: September 20,2004 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-25 

Reference: Section 4, Attachment 2 

Request: 

Please provide all available information on the number of urban customers per transformer 

for customer classes where more than one customer per transformer is likely (residential, 

small commercial). Provide the average number of residential and small commercial 

customers per transformer and any information on the distribution of transformers by number 

of customers attached. Divide into urban and rural as applicable. 

Response: 

Please refer to AUMA-ATCO-20. ATCO Electric does not have the information in the detail 

requested. However, a proxy to the information can be determined by utilizing the electronic 

spreadsheet [Mif3.xls]Misce Input (Column F, Rows 19 - 67). By inverting the number the 

average number of customers/transformer can be determined. 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff 

Information Response No.1 to REA-AAMDC 

Application No. 1349514 

Date submitted: September 23, 2004 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-33

Page 1 of 2

(Revised)

ATCO ELECTRIC

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 To:

Alberta Federation of REA's Ltd. and the

Alberta Association of Municipal Districts Counties

Revised : September 20, 2004

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-33

Reference : Rural Capital Cost Study

Request:

Please identify the number of customers and kWh of energy in each customer class from

1960 to the present. Divide into urban and rural to the extent that data are available.

Response:

ATCO Electric reaffirms that the detailed information requested is not available and cannot

be obtained with reasonable effort. ATCO Electric further questions the need for this level of

detail, as the methodology adopted by ATCO Electric in the Rural Capital Cost Study can be

adequately tested based on the information provided. Therefore, pursuant to s. 29(1)(b) of

the Rules of Practice , this level of information , going back to 1960, is not available in the

format requested . Current data , however, from ATCO Electric' s 2004 and 2001 filings is as

follows:

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted : September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

ATCO ELECTRIC 

Exhibit 02-006 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-33 

Page 1 of 2 

(Revised) 

2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514 

Information Response No.1 To: 

Alberta Federation and the 

Alberta Association Municipal Districts & Counties 

Revised: September 20, 2004 

REA·AAMDC·ATCO·33 

Reference: Rural Capital Cost Study 

Request: 

Please identify the number of customers and kWh of energy in each customer class from 

1960 to the present. Divide into urban and rural to the extent that data are available. 

Response: 

ATCO Electric reaffirms that the detailed information requested is not available and cannot 

be obtained with reasonable effort. ATCO Electric further questions the need for this level of 

detail, as the methodology adopted by ATCO Electric in the Rural Capital Cost Study can be 

adequately tested based on the information provided. Therefore, pursuant to s. 29(1 )(b) of 

the Rules of Practice, this level of information, going back to 1960, is not available in the 

format requested. Current data, however, from ATCO Electric's 2004 and 2001 filings is as 

follows: 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff 

Information Response No.1 to REA-AAMDC 

Application No. 1349514 

Date submitted: September 23, 2004 
Exhibit 02-006

REA-AAM DC-ATCO-33

Page 2 of 2

(Revised)

2004 2004 Energy 2001 2001 Energy

Rate Class Customers (MW.h) Customers (MW.h)

Non-Rural

NR11 D 102 ,986 726,099 103,304 754,671

NR56D 0 0 1 0

NR51 D 0 0 0 0

NR21D 15,905 530,146 13,963 364,692

NR25D 0 0 3 52

NR26D 0 0 0 0

NR31D 1,431 1,128,479 899 684,831

NR33D 0 0 0 0

NR32D 0 0 0 0

NR41 D 0 0 18 432

NR61 D 682 18,710 614 16,833

NR63D 1,716 2,637 1,768 2,716

Total 122,720 2,406,070 120,570 1,824,227

Rural 182,626

RR11D 13 ,606 129,666 4,973 3,750

RR56D 18,188 321,057 16,835 277,396

RR51 D 7,732 120,153 8,241 136,119

RR21D 4,994 108,583 5,379 78,947

RR25D 57 1,784 27 1,149

RR31D 2,882 4,227,022 4,187 3,970,350

RR41D 9,684 440,562 8,661 321,816

RR26D 0 0 0 1

RR33D 0 0 0 0

RR61 D 134 2,556 121 2,300

RR63D 2,029 1,773 2,090 1,826

RR32D 49 1,187 0 0

RR52D 550 7,860 629 7,881

Total 59,906 5,362,204 51,143 4,783,988

Primary

PRNR31D 4 37,869 2 39,004

PRRR31 D 46 485,278 58 601,820

PRNR32D 1 0 0 0

PRRR32D 0 61 1 14

PRNR33D 0 0 0 0

PRRR33D 0 0 0 0

RR31T 33 1,537,738 40 2,346,401

RR33T 1 3,420 0 0

Total 85 2,064,365 101 2,987,239

Summary

Non-Rural 122,720 2,406,070 120,570 1,824,227

Rural 59,906 5,362,204 51,143 4,783,988

Primary 85 2,064,365 101 2,987,239

Total 182,711 9,832,640 171,814 9,595,454

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514

Information Response No. 1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted : September 23, 2004

 EE-RM/STD-00-550 COMMENT 86

Exhibit 02-006 

REA-AAMDC-ATCO-33 

Page 2 of 2 

(Revised) 

2004 2004 Energy 2001 2001 Energy 

Rate Class Customers (MW.h) Customers (MW.h) 

Non-Rural 

NR11D 102,986 726,099 103,304 754,671 

NR56D 0 0 1 0 

NR51D 0 0 0 0 

NR21D 15,905 530,146 13,963 364,692 

NR25D 0 0 3 52 

NR26D 0 0 0 0 

NR31D 1,431 1,128,479 899 684,831 

NR33D 0 0 0 0 

NR32D 0 0 0 0 

NR41D 0 0 18 432 

NR61D 682 18,710 614 16,833 

NR63D 1,716 2,637 1,768 2,716 

Total 122,720 2,406,070 120,570 1,824,227 

Rural 182,626 

RR11D 13,606 129,666 4,973 3,750 

RR56D 18,188 321,057 16,835 277,396 

RR51D 7,732 120,153 8,241 136,119 

RR21D 4,994 108,583 5,379 78,947 

RR25D 57 1,784 27 1,149 

RR31D 2,882 4,227,022 4,187 3,970,350 

RR41D 9,684 440,562 8,661 321,816 

RR26D 0 0 0 1 

RR33D 0 0 0 0 

RR61D 134 2,556 121 2,300 

RR63D 2,029 1,773 2,090 1,826 

RR32D 49 1,187 0 0 

RR52D 550 7,860 629 7,881 

Total 59,906 5,362,204 51,143 4,783,988 

Primary 

PRNR31D 4 37,869 2 39,004 

PRRR31D 46 485,278 58 601,820 

PRNR32D 0 0 0 

PRRR32D 0 61 14 

PRNR33D 0 0 0 0 

PRRR33D 0 0 0 0 

RR31T 33 1,537,738 40 2,346,401 

RR33T 3,420 0 0 

Total 85 2,064,365 101 2,987,239 

Summary 

Non-Rural 122,720 2,406,070 120,570 1,824,227 

Rural 59,906 5,362,204 51,143 4,783,988 

Primary 85 2,064,365 101 2,987,239 

Total 182,711 9,832,640 171,814 9,595,454 

ATCO Electric 2004 Distribution Tariff Application No. 1349514 

Information Response No.1 to REA-AAMDC Date submitted: September 23, 2004