### Re: Today's call Jeff Ryan to: David Ogulei 10/02/2012 08:56 AM Cc: Charles Hall, Dan Bivins, Kim Garnett, Sarah Marshall Glad I asked. I think we're mostly on the same page then. Lilly is happy to talk about their operating experiences. Discussing what's going on at Evonic DeGussa is not something thay want to talk about, but you can always ask. I do think the papers and presentations are helpful, especially regarding the alternative monitoring plan petition and implementation which Dan can speak to as well. I've already asked about stack at Tippe - ~ 8% moisture at 140 F. Not like Veolia. Pall said they can handle 40% moisture no problem. I think the best outcome of making contact with Lilly is getting the presentations and paper. Note: Keith Beach with EDeG is the lead and therefore corresponding author. I think it would be appropriate to call them and find out why they are no longer operating the MM CEM.

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__________________________________________________ _ Jeff Ryan U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Office of Research and Development National Risk Management Research Laboratory Air Pollution Prevention and Control Division Air Pollution Technology Branch 109 T.W. Alexander Drive Mail Drop E305-01 Research Triangle Park, NC 27711 (919) 541-1437 (919) 541-0554 FAX "And all this science, I don't understand." "It's just my job 5 days a week"
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__________________________________________________ _ David Ogulei 10/02/2012 09:33:04 AM Hi Jeff, Glad you asked. There are two parrallel...

From: David Ogulei/R5/USEPA/US To: Jeff Ryan/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA Cc: Charles Hall/R5/USEPA/US@EPA, Dan Bivins/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA, Kim Garnett/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA, Sarah Marshall/R5/USEPA/US@EPA Date: 10/02/2012 09:33 AM Subject: Re: Today's call Hi Jeff, Glad you asked. There are two parrallel interests here in Region 5: the permitting group is primarily interested in all available information regarding the current status, reliability and availability of the multimetals CEMS for monitoring purposes at a HWI. We would like to explore Eli Lilly's experience withthe MM CEMS and identif y an y technical issues that would prevent the MM CEMS from bein g immediately deployable at a HWI. For permitting purposes, we would be interested in both the pros and cons of having the MM CEMS at a HWI (right now) in lieu of monitoring operating parameters. What benefits did Eli Lilly experience? How did the CEMS data compare with the predicted MACT concentrations based on feedstream analysis? Is Evonik Degussa currently operating the unit? Do we know of any issues with the unit since 2010? Are there other commercially available MM CEMS in the market? I believe enforcement is looking for factual information related to both the Hg CEMS and the MM CEMS but I will let them speak.
Thanks!
-David David Ogulei U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Region 5 | Air & Radiation Division | A-18J 77 West Jackson Blvd. | Chicago, Illinois 60604 Phone: (312) 353-0987 | Fax: (312) 692-2080 Ogulei.David@epa.gov Jeff Ryan 10/02/2012 08:14:01 AM I'm glad I did speak with Rick and Mike 1st. I ne...

From: Jeff Ryan/RTP/USEPA/US To: Charles Hall/R5/USEPA/US@EPA, Dan Bivins/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA, David Ogulei/R5/USEPA/US@EPA, Kim Garnett/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA, Sarah Marshall/R5/USEPA/US@EPA, Date: 10/02/2012 08:14 AM Subject: Today's call I'm glad I did speak with Rick and Mike 1st. I needed to know their boundaries. But I also want to make sure that we hit on as much as possible what you guys need to know. To be honest, last we spoke you guys were interested in Hg CEMs. Not sure how MM CEMS are now front and center. To me, what you guys are most interested in is the status and readiness of MM CEMs. Am I correct? Do you have specific questions? The main reason I ask is so that we have some structure to the call. I'm not positive of the purpose. If we can narrow that down, that would help. I think to start off, we should hear what info or topics you guys would like to discuss. At least go over your objectives and go from there. Did you guys have an agenda in mind?

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__________________________________________________ _ Jeff Ryan U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Office of Research and Development National Risk Management Research Laboratory Air Pollution Prevention and Control Division Air Pollution Technology Branch 109 T.W. Alexander DriveMail Drop E305-01 Research Triangle Park, NC 27711 (919) 541-1437 (919) 541-0554 FAX "And all this science, I don't understand." "It's just my job 5 days a week"
Elton John - Rocket Man

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