March 20, 2008 Public Hearing 

STATE OF RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE PLANTATIONS 

DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT 

OFFICE OF AIR RESOURCES 

PUBLIC HEARING 

Rhode Island Attainment Plan for the 8-Hour Ozone 

National Ambient Air Quality Standard 

Thursday, March 20, 2008 

10 :00 a .m . 

235 Promenade Street 

Providence, Rhode Island 

PRESENT : 

Stephen Majkut 

Barbara Morin 

IRONS & ASSOCIATES 

CERTIFIED PROFESSIONAL STENOGRAPHERS 

31 Harris Avenue 

Portsmouth, Rhode Island 02871 

(401) 683-1930 

ORIGINAL 

REBECCA J. FORTE IRONS & ASSOCIATES (401)683-1930 

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1 I N D E X 

2 SPEAKER 

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Barbara Morin, 5 

4 Molly Clark, 9 

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1 Notice of Public Hearing & Comment 

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11 3 Rhode Island Attainment Plan for the 

Eight-Hour Ozone National Ambient 

12 Air Quality Standard . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 

13 4 Appendix 2A of the Proposed 

Attainment Plan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  . 5 

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5 CD . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 

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6 Proposed revision to the Rhode Island 

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1 Thursday, March 20, 2008 

2 (Commencing at 10 :00 A .M .) 

3 MR . MAJKUT : I'm Stephen Majkut . 

4 I'm the chief of the Office of Air Resources in the 

5 Department of Environmental Management, and we're 

6 here for a public hearing today to receive comments 

7 on two proposals that the Office of Air Resources 

8 has put forward . 

9 The first is the Rhode Island Attainment Plan 

10 for the Eight-Hour Ozone National Ambient Air 

11 Quality Standard, and that plan includes the 

12 reasonable further progress analysis and the 

13 reasonably available control technology analysis . 

14 The second document for hearing today is a 

15 revision to the Rhode Island State Implementation 

16 Plan to address interstate transport of pollutants 

17 effecting attainment and maintenance of the 

18 eight-hour ozone and fine particulate matter, 

19 National Ambient Air Quality Standards . 

20 With me on the hearing panel today is Barbara 

21 Morin, supervising scientist in the area of Water 

22 Resources, and, as I stated earlier, is the 

23 interested party to present oral comments on DEM's 

24 proposals . 

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1 We will put a couple of documents into the 

2 record and I'll ask Barbara to give an overview of 

3 the proposals and then we'll go to public comments . 

4 The first exhibit for the record is the Notice 

5 of Public Hearing & Comment Period, and there is an 

6 attached mailing list . 

7 The second is an Affidavit of Publication 

8 indicating that the Notice of Public Hearing & 

9 Comment Period was published in "The Providence 

10 Journal" on the 15th of February, 2008 . 

11 The next document is the Rhode Island 

12 Attainment Plan for the Eight-Hour Ozone National 

13 Ambient Air Quality Standard . 

14 The next document is the Appendix 2A of the 

15 Proposed Attainment Plan, which is the 2002 

16 Emissions Inventory . 

17 The next is a CD, with all the appendices to 

18 the Rhode Island Attainment Plan for the Eight-Hour 

19 Ozone National Ambient Air Quality Standard . 

20 The last document that I'll put into the 

21 record is the proposed revision to the Rhode Island 

22 State Implementation Plan to address Interstate 

23 Transport of Pollutants Effecting Attainment and 

24 Maintenance of the Eight-hour Ozone and Fine 

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1 Particulate matter, National Ambient Air Quality 

2 Standards . 

3 Any documents we receive today will also be 

4 part of the record of hearing . 

5 Why don't we just go back . We'll go to the 

6 explanation of the proposal . 

7 MS . MORIN : As Steve said, this 

8 hearing regards two proposed amendments to Rhode 

9 Island's State Implementation Plan (SIP) . 

10 The first is the Rhode Island Attainment Plan 

11 for the 8-hour Ozone National Ambient Air Quality 

12 Standard . 

13 In 1997, EPA revised its ambient air standard 

14 for ozone to adopt a standard with an 8-hour 

15 averaging time that is more stringent than the 

16 previous one-hour standard . Ozone levels in Rhode 

17 Island exceeded that standard in the summer months, 

18 and, based on the severity of those accedences, the 

19 entire State of Rhode Island was classified by the 

20 EPA as a moderate nonattainment area for the 8-hour 

21 ozone standard . 

22 As a moderate nonattainment area, Rhode Island 

23 is required to be in attainment of the 8-hour ozone 

24 standard by June 2010 . Since June is in the middle 

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1 of an ozone season, Rhode Island must show that it 

2 will be in attainment in the previous complete ozone 

3 season, 2009 . 

4 This document demonstrates, through a 

5 combination of photochemical grid modeling and other 

6 analyses, that Rhode Island will be in attainment of 

7 the 8-hour standard by the 2009 ozone season . 

8 This document also includes several other 

9 elements that are required for moderate 

10 nonattainment areas . Those elements include : 

11 A reasonable further progress demonstration 

12 showing that Rhode Island's ozone precursor 

13 emissions will be reduced by more than 15 percent 

14 between 2002 and 2008 . 

15 A Reasonably Available Control Technology 

16 (RACT) analysis showing that Rhode Island sources 

17 are controlled to a level consistent with RACT . 

18 A Reasonably Available Control Measure (RACM) 

19 analysis, showing that there are no additional 

20 measures that could reasonably be adopted that would 

21 result in earlier attainment of the eight-hour 

22 standard . 

23 Contingency measures to be implemented if the 

24 RFP or attainment milestones are not met . 

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1 Transportation conformity budgets . 

2 An Emissions Inventory for Rhode Island 

3 sources for 2002 . 

4 In the 8-hour attainment demonstration, Rhode 

5 Island DEM commits to adopt or amend its regulations 

6 for the following source categories to ensure that 

7 its regulations are consistent with RACT : 

8 Adhesives and Sealants - effective by 1/1/09 . 

9 Industrial solvents - effective by 4/1/09 . 

10 Asphalt paving - effective by 4/1/09 . 

11 Flat wood paneling - effective by 4/1/09 . 

12 In addition, if EPA does not propose federal 

13 regulations for the Architectural and Industrial 

14 Maintenance Coatings and Consumer Products source 

15 categories by July 1, 2009, RI DEM commits in the 

16 attainment demonstration to adopt regulations for 

17 those categories effective 1/1/09 . 

18 Rhode Island Department of Environmental 

19 Management also is committing to evaluate two new 

20 Control Technique Guidelines, one for three types of 

21 printing sources and one for three types of surface 

22 coatings, to determine whether current regulations 

23 should be amended to be consistent with those 

24 guidelines, and, if so, to amend applicable 

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1 regulations with an effective date of 4/1/09 . 

2 Revision of the Rhode Island SIP to Address 

3 Interstate Transport of Pollutants Affecting 

4 Attainment and Maintenance of the 8-hour Ozone and 

5 Fine Particulate Matter (PM2 .5) National Ambient Air 

6 Quality Standards . 

7 At the same time that the EPA adopted the 

8 8-hour ozone standard, July 1997, EPA also revised 

9 the standard for fine particulate matter (PM2 .5) . 

10 Rhode Island is in attainment of the PM2 .5 standard, 

11 and thus is not required to submit an attainment 

12 demonstration for the standard . However, Section 

13 110(a)(2)(d)(i) of the Clean Act requires, upon the 

14 promulgation of any new NAAQS, that states submit a 

15 SIP revision to the EPA showing that emissions from 

16 that State will not : 

17 Contribute significantly to nonattainment in, 

18 or interfere with maintenance by, any other State 

19 with respect to any such national primary or 

20 secondary ambient air quality standard ; or interfere 

21 with measures required to be included in the 

22 applicable implementation plan for any other State 

23 to prevent significant deterioration of air quality 

24 or to protect visibility . 

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1 This document provides that demonstration for 

2 the 1997 standards for ozone and PM2 .5 . The 

3 demonstration uses modeling data to show that Rhode 

4 Island emissions do not contribute significantly to 

5 nonattainment, or interfere with the maintenance of 

6 attainment, with the ozone of PM2 .5 standards in 

7 downwind states . It also shows that Rhode Island 

8 emissions do not interfere with other states' 

9 efforts to prevent significant deterioration of air 

10 quality . In the document, RI DEM commits to assess 

11 the impact of its emissions on visibility in other 

12 states through an ongoing regional consultation 

13 process and with the submission of a SIP for 

14 Regional Haze . 

15 MR . MAJKUT : Great . Thank you . 

16 Molly, comment . 

17 MS . CLARK : Molly Clark . C-L-A-R-K . 

18 M-O-L-L-Y . I'm the manager of the Health Promotion 

19 for the American Lung Association of Rhode Island . 

20 The American Lung Association is, obviously, 

21 particularly interested in the effect of air 

22 quality . We have another involvement in the 

23 national level . We have been party to the lawsuits 

24 against EPA to make the standards stronger . 

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1 Basically, we are in support of the plan as 

2 submitted . I will be making some other comments on 

3 that . We definitely support the additional control 

4 measures that you've identified, and the ones where 

5 EPA has not taken action by the middle of this year, 

6 we'll proceed and, obviously, evaluating Rhode 

7 Island regulations to fit the EPA guidelines . 

8 With the revision of the ozone standard last 

9 week, they will continue, even though the Lung 

10 Association and many others are not satisfied with, 

11 that it is not made even more stringent in order to 

12 protect public health, it is still moving in the 

13 right direction, and we salute the ongoing regional 

14 involvement of Rhode Island with the rest of the 

15 region, not only New England, but the rest of the 

16 east coast and so on for making this an going 

17 process, to make sure that we're not effecting 

18 anybody, because there's a number of people downwind 

19 areas who will probably end up on attainment on the 

20 next version of the standard, as well as continuing 

21 to find control measures that could be implemented 

22 with it . 

23 Overall, it is good to see that the air 

24 quality is improving, but the broad ranging control 

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1 measures, such as vehicles, are having an effect, 

2 and that's basically all I have to say . We are 

3 confident that you will continue to make this an 

4 ongoing process so that we can continue to move, 

5 continue to implement everything you have been able 

6 to identify as additional measures and keep moving 

7 in that direction . 

8 So, we have no specific comments on any other 

9 particular pieces of the point . 

10 MR . MAJKUT : Great, Molly . Thanks 

11 for coming and thanks for taking the time to go 

12 through and comment . We do appreciate your coming 

13 here . You know, we spend, I don't know, half of our 

14 time on ozone-related things, and I know many people 

15 in the environmental community have moved on to 

16 other stuff, but, you know, but this is still 

17 important to us, and . . . 

18 MS . CLARK : It is important to some 

19 of the others, but . . . 

20 MR . MAJKUT : Your reaction is 

21 helpful . We do appreciate that . Any other 

22 comments? 

23 MS . CLARK : This is very useful 

24 information as well . 

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1 MR . MAJKUT : Yes, it is . 

2 MS . CLARK : It's not wasted time 

3 putting it together for EPA . It's also useful for 

4 environmental and health communities to have it all 

5 in one place to look things up in a hurry . 

6 MR . MAJKUT : Great . If there are no 

7 other comments at this time, the comment period will 

8 remain open until 4 :00 p .m . today, and, with that, 

9 we'll close the hearing . 

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C E R T I F I C A T E 

STATE OF RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE PLANTATIONS 

PROVIDENCE, SC . 

IN RE : PUBLIC HEARING 

Rhode Island Attainment Plan for the 

8-Hour Ozone National Ambient Air 

Quality Standard 

I, REBECCA J . FORTE, do hereby certify that I am 

expressly approved as a person qualified and 

authorized to take depositions pursuant to Rules of 

Civil Procedure of this Court, especially, but without 

restriction thereto, under Rules ; that transcript 

contains a true record of proceedings . 

IN WITNESS WHEREOF hereunto set my hand this 

25th day of March, 

------ ------------ REBECC~ J . FORTE 

Notary Public 

Shorthand Reporter 

My Commission (RI) Expires on 7/15/09 

My Commission (MA) Expires on 2/18/11 

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