# Date: March 18, 2015

**Case:** The Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting

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## U.S. DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY PUBLIC MEETING THE PORTABLE AIR CONDITIONERS STANDARDS MEETING

U.S. Department of Energy 1000 Independence Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20585 Room No. 8E-089

Wednesday, March 18, 2015 11:54 p.m.The Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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## Appearances for Department of Energy Meeting: 2 3 

## Doug Brookman, Public Solutions, -- Moderator 4 

## Bryan Berringer, DOE 5 

## Sarah Butler, DOE 6 

## John Cymbalsky, DOE 7 

## Ashley Armstrong, DOE 8 

## Steve Goering, DOE 9 

## Alberto Aloisi, DeLonghi Appliances 10 

## Stefano Vit, DeLonghi Appliances 11 

## Michael Prager, DeLonghi America, Inc. 12 

## Martin L. Besant, Electrolux Major Appliances North 13 

## America 14 

## Nicole Buccitelli, Navigant 15 

## Judith Reich, Navigant 16 

## Nadav Singerman, Navigant 17 

## Troy Watson, Navigant 18 

## Jim Crawford, HVAC Regulatory Consultant 19 

## Camilla Dunham, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory 20 

## Chun Chun Ni, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory 21 

## Jennifer Cleary, AHAM 22The Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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## APPEARANCES (CONTINUED): 2 3 

## Melissa Fiffer, US EPA 4 

## John A. Hodges, Wiley Rein LLP 5 

## Sang Lee, DENSO Products and Services Americas, Inc. 6 

## Joanna Mauer, ASAP, Appliance Standards Awareness 7 

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## AFTERNOON SESSION 2 

## 11:54 A.M. 3 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay so let's resume then. 4 

## Good afternoon everyone. This is the public meeting 5 

## on portable air conditioners. The Energy 6 

## Conservation Standards portion of the meeting -- we 7 

## this morning did a meeting on the test procedures. 8 

## Hopefully anybody who is here to participate in the 9 

## meeting on the Conservation Standards has joined us 10 

## by now. 11 

## Today is March 18, 2015 here in the 12 

## Forrestal Building in Washington, D.C. My name is 13 

## Doug Brookman, Public Solutions, Baltimore. So glad 14 

## you could join us this afternoon. We are going to 15 

## start with welcoming remarks from Bryan Berringer. 16 

## MR. BERRINGER: Yes good afternoon this is 17 

## Bryan Berringer from the Department of Energy. I am 18 

## currently filling in for Ron Majette, Project 19 

## Manager. He'll be here momentarily but we are going 20 

## to start with the standard rulemaking now. We are 21 

## going to talk today about the preliminary analysis 22 

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## today and just welcome everybody and thank everybody 2 

## for their participation. I look forward to a lively 3 

## discussion. 4 

## So at this point I will open it up for the 5 

## opening remarks from any companies, one, -- 6 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Stefano? 7 

## MR. VIT: I am Stefano Vit, Regulatory 8 

## Affairs and Standardization at De'Longhi Appliances. 9 

## And De'Longhi would support a reasonable DOE standard 10 

## for portable air conditioners. We have comments on 11 

## two specific points of the preliminary technical 12 

## support document. 13 

## First, we believe that EF efficiency 14 

## factor level 3 is not available in commercial 15 

## products offered on the market or in working 16 

## prototypes. As such this should not be considered at 17 

## all in the study. As specified in the basic factors 18 

## in Chapter 4, Screening Analysis of the TSD, if it is 19 

## determined that a technology has not been 20 

## incorporated in commercial products or in working 21 

## prototypes, then that technology will not be 22 

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## We further stress in this regard that DOE 2 

## did not observe this air flow configuration for any 3 

## products in its test sample. It only included this 4 

## configuration in its analysis because it tentatively 5 

## concludes it is technically feasible and results in a 6 

## significant increase in efficiency. Even this weak 7 

## statement is unwarranted in light of that lack of 8 

## availability in commercial products or working 9 

## prototypes. 10 

## Second, as discussed this morning in 11 

## relation to test procedures, there are serious 12 

## implications to the use of an unwarranted 13 

## infiltration air temperature. Such a temperature 14 

## would affect the ability to achieve efficiency 15 

## improvements. This would undermine a key requirement 16 

## for a standard that substantial improvement in energy 17 

## efficiency is technologically feasible. 18 

## It also gives a false impression of the 19 

## performance of single-duct portable air conditioner, 20 

## which have been meeting the needs of satisfied 21 

## customers for over the last 25 years. 22 

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## Additional opening remarks, comments or anything else 2 

## to say? Nothing additional, okay then let's proceed 3 

## with the content in your packet and in this packet 4 

## here will be I believe we are on slide 77. 5 

## MR. BERRINGER: What we are looking at 6 

## here is just the overall agenda that we are going to 7 

## be looking for standards today and the first topic 8 

## that I am going to address is the regulatory history, 9 

## test procedure and overview. Okay as far as the 10 

## regulatory history the Energy Policy Conservation Act 11 

## of 1975, or EPCA, talks about the different 12 

## standards there and again we talk about coverage of 13 

## -- establishing coverage for standards for products 14 

## and in this case again we are looking at specific 15 

## covered products, commercial products continued to 16 

## produce and classify additional products as covered 17 

## under EPCA. So again, as far as classification, it is 18 

## necessary to fulfill the purpose of EPCA taking the 19 

## average annual household energy use is likely to 20 

## exceed 100 kilowatts per year. 21 

## And so we -- the first step was the notice 22 

## of determination that was published on July 5th ofThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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## 2013. DOE tentatively determined the classification 2 

## provisions and we know currently there are no federal 3 

## test procedures or standards for portable ACs at this 4 

## time. 5 

## So the definition of coverage on February 6 

## 25th, test procedure notice of public rulemaking 7 

## proposed the following definition for portable air 8 

## conditioners, which is a consumer product, other than 9 

## a packaged terminal air conditioner, room air 10 

## conditioner and dehumidifier designed as a portable 11 

## unit for delivering cool, conditioned air to an 12 

## enclosed space that is powered by single phase 13 

## electric current which may rest on the floor or other 14 

## elevated surface. 15 

## It includes a source of refrigerant. It may 16 

## include additional means of air circulation. So if 17 

## you are just looking at the timeline for standards, 18 

## here again the NOPR was published on -- the Notice of 19 

## Determination was published on July 5, 2013. The 20 

## Preliminary Analysis was published on February 27th 21 

## of 2015 and today we are having the Preliminary 22 

## Analysis meeting, March 18th. Comment period forThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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## this ends on April 28, 2015. 2 

## We are projecting that a Notice of 3 

## Proposed Rulemaking for Standards in this case would 4 

## be at the end of the year, at December 31, 2015, and 5 

## also projecting a final rule to be August 1st of 6 

## 2016. Are there any comments on the questions? 7 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Jennifer Cleary? 8 

## MS. CLEARY: I'm Jennifer Cleary of AHAM. 9 

## So I think from the test procedure meeting my 10 

## understanding is that the final test procedure would 11 

## be published also projected around December 31, 2015. 12 

## Is that correct? 13 

## MR. BERRINGER: That is correct. 14 

## MS. CLEARY: Okay so I think that's 15 

## helpful for DOE because you presumably will know what 16 

## your final test procedure is. Well let me ask -- go 17 

## back and ask a question. As you are developing the 18 

## proposed rule on standards, I assume that between the 19 

## time that we submit comments on the test procedure 20 

## and you develop the proposed rule for standards, you 21 

## will also be internally deciding on the final test 22 

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## MS. ARMSTRONG: Correct. 2 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you Ashley, now back 3 

## to Jennifer. 4 

## MS. CLEARY: And so actually then, you will 5 

## be using what will be the final test procedure to 6 

## develop the NOPR on standards. Is that correct? 7 

## MS. ARMSTRONG: Correct. 8 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you Ashley. 9 

## MS. CLEARY: But, this is Jennifer, we will 10 

## as commenters not know before the NOPR on standards 11 

## what the final test procedure will be, correct? 12 

## MS. ARMSTRONG: So the plan is to publish 13 

## -- the plan is to publish the final rule for the test 14 

## procedure in advance of the NOPR publication, so the 15 

## hope is that you will know. At least have the tools 16 

## available to. Obviously that depends on the magnitude 17 

## of the comments that we get and the decisions that we 18 

## need to make in response to those comments, but 19 

## that's all we could hope that you would have a test 20 

## procedure in advance of the NOPR for standards, okay. 21 

## MS. CLEARY: This is Jennifer. We 22 

## appreciate that. I think there are a lot of seriousThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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## concerns we have with not having the test procedure 2 

## well in advance, you know not like a month in advance 3 

## or even six months in advance of the NOPR because -- 4 

## on standards, and it really stems from our desire to 5 

## help the Department. So you know, leading up to this 6 

## preliminary analysis for example, AHAM was asked to 7 

## provide data and we tried really, really hard for 8 

## months and months as Judy knows, many conversations 9 

## that we had. 10 

## We could not provide data and the reason 11 

## for that was because we didn't have the test 12 

## procedure. Manufacturers are not testing to 13 

## what's being proposed necessarily right now, and so in 14 

## order for them to be able to provide AHAM with data 15 

## and then AHAM to provide the Department with data, 16 

## they need to have time to do the testing and that's, 17 

## you know, particularly for a new product like this as 18 

## opposed to many of our other products that are and 19 

## have been covered by the present rule on time where 20 

## manufacturers have some kind of basic understanding 21 

## about how their product may be tested and how this 22 

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## In this case you know we were trying to, 2 

## say, figure out could there be a conversion factor 3 

## between certain test procedures, and there isn't one. 4 

## So manufacturers, in order to really be helpful to the 5 

## Department, could need to test their entire product 6 

## line, and that takes time and we need that time to do 7 

## that in order to make a proposed rule on standards at 8 

## all meaningful. 9 

## So our concern is that if we do not have 10 

## that, the Department does not issue a test procedure 11 

## well in advance so that we can do that testing and 12 

## manufacturers could provide that information to 13 

## Navigant during the manufacturer interviews, that 14 

## whatever NOPR is published will suffer from serious 15 

## flaws due to the lack of data. 16 

## We don't want to see that happen. We want 17 

## to work with the Department and we can only do so if 18 

## you give us the tools to do that so we would request 19 

## that we have the final rule for the test procedure. 20 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay thank you. So Bryan 21 

## was just laying out the timeline which is on slide 79 22 

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## to the timeline that's listed here? Okay so I guess 2 

## we are going to move on then to the market technology 3 

## assessment screening. 4 

## MR. BERRINGER: And just for the record 5 

## Ron Majette is now here, the project manager, if you 6 

## want to introduce yourself. 7 

## MR. MAJETTE: Ron Majette, the U.S. 8 

## Department of Energy. I was tied up in another 9 

## meeting, so since we have this meeting started a 10 

## little early I was a little bit behind, but welcome 11 

## everybody. I'm glad to see everybody made it out, 12 

## thank you. 13 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you Ron. 14 

## MR. BERRINGER: And at this time I would 15 

## like to introduce Judy Reich from Navigant Consulting 16 

## to talk about the market technology assessment and 17 

## screening. 18 

## MS. REICH: Hello everyone. Judith 19 

## Reich, and I will be leading off the discussion of the 20 

## analyses that DOE is conducting as part of this 21 

## rulemaking. As you know we are at the preliminary 22 

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## conservation standards for portable air conditioners 2 

## in the event that DOE makes the final determination 3 

## that portable air conditioners are covered products. 4 

## So I'm going to focus on the first three 5 

## elements shown in this flow chart, starting with the 6 

## market and technology assessment and moving through 7 

## the engineering analysis. The market and technology 8 

## assessment pretty much lays the ground work for 9 

## subsequent analyses by setting the structure for how 10 

## to consider the products that are the subject of the 11 

## rulemaking, giving a portrait of the industry and 12 

## regulatory landscape, and then identifying all of the 13 

## technologies and technological developments that are 14 

## available for improving efficiency. 15 

## So on that first bullet point, defining 16 

## product classes, DOE generally considers a number of 17 

## factors when deciding to divide products up into 18 

## different classes for analysis, and factors that it 19 

## considers are typically the type of energy used, the 20 

## capacity or other performance-related features, and in 21 

## this case DOE identified two different potential 22 

## factors that could be used for separation of portableThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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### air conditioners into different product classes, and 2 

### that would be the duct configuration and cooling 3 

### capacity. 4 

### In terms of duct configuration, as we 5 

### discussed in the test procedure discussion, we looked 6 

### at, or DOE looked at, two different duct 7 

### configurations, single-duct and dual-duct and is not 8 

### considering at this time a class for spot coolers. 9 

### But in terms of the single-duct and 10 

### dual-duct units, there was no consumer utility that 11 

### DOE could identify associated with one versus the 12 

### other. Through its research, evaluation of product 13 

### literature, evaluation of products themselves, direct 14 

### teardowns, discussions with manufacturers, it was found 15 

### that there were no installation locations that 16 

### couldn't accommodate either a single-duct or 17 

### dual-duct unit. 18 

### Also, there was no information to suggest 19 

### that there was a correlation between available noise 20 

### performance data and duct configuration, so again 21 

### there was no particular consumer utility that DOE is 22 

### aware of at this time that would warrant separatingThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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### single, or separating portable air conditioners into 2 

### product classes on the basis of being either 3 

### single-duct or dual-duct. 4 

### However, it's pretty clear from data that, 5 

### both DOE's data and data that manufacturers make 6 

### available, that portable air conditioner efficiencies 7 

### are a function of the cooling capacity of the 8 

### product. In that higher capacity units, typically, are 9 

### achieving higher efficiencies, and in particular when 10 

### I talk about it in today's discussion, it's going to 11 

### be referring to efficiencies in cooling capacity as 12 

### measured under the proposed test procedure. 13 

### DOE also observed that this relationship 14 

### between the two parameters is consistent across a 15 

### wide range of measured capacities and so for that 16 

### reason, DOE is not proposing separate product classes 17 

### on the basis of cooling capacity, but is considering 18 

### the possibility of standards based on an equation 19 

### that relates energy efficiency to capacity when 20 

### developing its various energy efficiency levels. 21 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Jennifer Cleary? 22 

### MS. CLEARY: Jennifer Cleary with AHAM.The Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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## We will have comments on this. We don't have any today 2 

## for the immediate perspective but we certainly will 3 

## provide some. 4 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you. Joanna Mauer. 5 

## MS. MAUER: We support the single product 6 

## class preferably and we agree with DOE's 7 

## preliminary determination that there is no distinct 8 

## consumer utility -- I'm just going to wait until -- 9 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thanks for doing that yes. 10 

## MS. MAUER: This is Joanna again. The 11 

## second part of the request for comment is the 12 

## determination that the efficiency is a function of 13 

## product capacity, so clearly the DOE testing to the 14 

## proposed test procedure shows correlation between 15 

## cooling capacity and efficiency. I guess I'm having 16 

## trouble with going to the next step and saying that 17 

## efficiency is a function of capacity, since the two 18 

## are kind of so closely tied together and the DOE 19 

## analysis is based on reducing air infiltration, 20 

## which has the impact of both increasing, you are 21 

## increasing cooling capacity as a way essentially to 22 

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### You know and I think, in general, like for a 2 

### room AC unit, we talk about capacity, I think we are 3 

### talking about higher capacity and you don't want to 4 

### have a higher capacity compressor, larger heat 5 

### exchangers, the other things, whereas here it seems 6 

### like capacity is really related to how much air 7 

### infiltration you have. 8 

### And also a room AC, the standards aren't 9 

### very different for different capacity ranges and 10 

### actually they are slightly higher for smaller 11 

### capacity units. So I am trying to understand why we 12 

### have such a different relationship here where 13 

### efficiency would require -- required efficiency would 14 

### increase with capacity. 15 

### MS. REICH: So there are a number of 16 

### questions that maybe she really had, and I'll see if I 17 

### can step through them and some of them may be best 18 

### explained when we get to the later discussion of the 19 

### engineering analysis. You are correct that larger 20 

### capacity units have different heat exchangers and 21 

### different components, but that is a separate issue 22 

### from the reduction of the infiltration air that youThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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## can achieve the higher efficiency levels for a given 2 

## starting configuration in different capacity. You can 3 

## still incrementally improve it and not just by moving 4 

## up a curve in capacity in the same relationship 5 

## between EER and capacity. 6 

## It actually shifts the curve upwards so it 7 

## is a step change in efficiency. So let me see, I 8 

## think DOE tested a wide range of products that are on 9 

## the market, and I think what you will see from that 10 

## starting curve is that there was a single unique 11 

## relationship at a baseline configuration that relates 12 

## capacity to energy efficiency. You are right that 13 

## they are interrelated because the EER metric has 14 

## capacity in it, but at the baseline there is that 15 

## single, that very well defined curve that you saw in 16 

## the test procedures discussion. So again, we can talk 17 

## about some of these issues further when we get to the 18 

## engineering analysis. 19 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Additional questions or 20 

## comments before we proceed? 21 

## MS. REICH: Okay just before I go on, I 22 

## just want to mention that if anybody has or isThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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## looking for further information on the market and 2 

## tech assessment, that's chapter three of the 3 

## technical support document. 4 

## So in terms of the industry landscape, DOE 5 

## estimates that the majority of portable ACs are 6 

## manufactured overseas. There are three major OEM's 7 

## but these products that are sold in the U.S. 8 

## under a large number of brands. DOE identified 9 

## approximately 29 of them, and the list below shows 10 

## very approximate market shares of manufacturers that 11 

## are selling products in the U.S. 12 

## DOE also looks at the availability of 13 

## products currently on the market and characterizes 14 

## distributions of efficiencies. I want to emphasize 15 

## that these data are taken from the California Energy 16 

## Commission's appliance database, and this requires the 17 

## use of what is now an obsolete ASHRAE standard, 18 

## ASHRAE Standard 128-2001, so that this is -- this data 19 

## is really for comparative purposes because the new 20 

## ASHRAE test standard and the proposed DOE test 21 

## procedure would produce different EER values. 22 

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## terms of cooling capacity and also sorted into 2 

## standards to show the general distribution in 3 

## capacity. Everybody is I'm sure very familiar with 4 

## the products -- 5 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Let's hear from Jennifer, 6 

## Jennifer Cleary? 7 

## MS. CLEARY: Just on your last slide, I 8 

## just wanted to point out that this is a really good 9 

## example of the type of data AHAM would like to be 10 

## able to provide because the reality is that the test 11 

## procedures aren't final and at the time wasn't even 12 

## proposed. We tried very hard to collect this, but 13 

## because we didn't have a good understanding of, for 14 

## example, all the products and how the test procedure 15 

## would apply, so we would like to be able to do that in 16 

## the future. 17 

## MR. CYMBALSKY: This is John from DOE. Was 18 

## there any testing done in support of the development 19 

## of an AHAM PAC-1? 20 

## MS. CLEARY: I will look into that. I 21 

## think the problem is was that done on units that 22 

## exist today, for example. So we will look into it. AndThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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## we did investigate trying to do testing on the units 2 

## that represent the most shipments for some companies, 3 

## and we can look into that again. The problem we had 4 

## was the ability to get that from enough manufacturers, 5 

## and we weren't able to present it in the aggregate. So 6 

## DOE had better luck getting some of that data 7 

## from individual companies, but did it represent the 8 

## full market? 9 

## So I think as we continue to have a better 10 

## understanding of where the test procedure will go, 11 

## there will be a willingness for companies to develop 12 

## that testing across their products, because their 13 

## certainty with the test procedure will be instead of 14 

## a sense of a certain futility in work. So as things 15 

## progress hopefully we will be able to do more, but 16 

## until we know what that test procedure is, I think 17 

## there's some challenges to that because of course 18 

## companies have a lot more than just this going on and 19 

## it requires the use of their lab, and so to get into 20 

## the lab you really need to -- companies need to know 21 

## that doing that testing is going to have value. 22 

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### schematic here to make sure we are all on the same 2 

### page of what a portable air conditioner looks like. 3 

### It's basically a product that contains a 4 

### refrigeration system for the purpose of removing the 5 

### sensible and latent heat from your conditioned space. 6 

### You know all the components you would 7 

### expect to be associated with that, compressor, heat 8 

### exchangers, blowers, one or two ducts on the condenser 9 

### side and then some of which we talked a little bit 10 

### about before in terms of the auto evaporation 11 

### feature, there are means for removing condensate. 12 

### In most of the units they have a device, 13 

### typically a slinger wheel, that would allow any 14 

### condensate that collects in an internal bucket to be 15 

### re-applied to the hot surface to evaporate and then 16 

### be carried out through the exhaust outside of the conditioned 17 

### space. If they do not provide that, or in addition to 18 

### providing that, they may provide a collection pan or a 19 

### gravity drain, in some cases an internal pump, to 20 

### handle any condensate that may accumulate, either 21 

### because there's no auto evaporation feature or 22 

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## different from the way these may be in the test 2 

## procedure, you can end up with a fair amount of 3 

## condensate being collected and then pumped out. 4 

## So the final piece of this portion of the 5 

## analysis is the technology assessment where DOE 6 

## identifies the various technology options that are 7 

## available. Now I disconnected the -- I will have to 8 

## stand further -- so I'm not going to go through all 9 

## of these but just in general, these may be familiar to 10 

## you folks. 11 

## They are similar to technologies that are 12 

## looked at or have been looked at for dehumidifiers 13 

## and room air conditioners. Examples are increasing 14 

## the heat transfer surface area, improving the heat 15 

## transfer, individual component improvements and 16 

## looking at technology improvements that would be 17 

## effective under variable conditions. 18 

## I do want to mention that not listed here 19 

## is more of an approach, but something we are going to 20 

## talk about in a little bit, is the approach of air 21 

## flow optimization, and that is the concept of reducing 22 

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### duct on the dual-duct configuration. 2 

### And associated with that is the 3 

### requirement to bump up the blower size so that it can 4 

### be associated with the static pressure increases as 5 

### you put more of the air flow out of the exhaust duct. 6 

### Any comments? 7 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Questions or comments here? 8 

### Stefano? 9 

### MR. VIT: I just want to underline that 10 

### the ability is a key issue and is a strong constrainment to 11 

### design such a new product with the nature's way to be really 12 

### careful. So for this kind of product, I really would like 13 

### to consider to invite you to consider this kind of prospect 14 

### as when you design these it is paramont these -- how soon 15 

### until we see that and I don't see that these reflected here, 16 

### if you can consider that, please. Thank you. 17 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you. Jennifer? 18 

### MS. CLEARY: AHAM fully agrees with that 19 

### comment and will provide some details in their 20 

### written comments as to which of these technology 21 

### options could have an impact. 22 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Okay, thank you. JohnThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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### Cymbalsky? 2 

### MR. CYMBALSKY: This is John from DOE. So 3 

### my recollection here is that we saw a pretty big 4 

### range in the weight of these things or at least that is 5 

### what I was told. I don't know if you know that off 6 

### the top of your head but -- 7 

### MS. REICH: I'm going to defer that 8 

### question to Troy. 9 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Troy? 10 

### MR. WATSON: This is Troy Watson from 11 

### Navigant. Yeah there was a pretty big range in weights, and 12 

### I think the slide that showed the parameters of different 13 

### types of units showed that the single-duct units were 14 

### typically less than 50 pounds. It's around 50 to 100, 15 

### between 50 and 100. 16 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Do you wish to comment 17 

### further? No, not at this time. Maybe in written 18 

### comments you could add on. Okay, we are going to 19 

### proceed then. 20 

### MS. REICH: All right. The next step is the 21 

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## and determines which of them are appropriate to carry 2 

## through to the engineering analysis. In screening 3 

## out technology options, there are four factors that 4 

## DOE considers. 5 

## First of all, it must be technologically 6 

## feasible to implement. It must be practicable to 7 

## manufacture, install and service on the scale that's 8 

## necessary at the time that the standards would become 9 

## effective. It looks at whether there would be 10 

## impacts on the utility of the product to consumers and 11 

## of course, if there are any safety issues that are 12 

## raised, that would cause the technology to be screened 13 

## out as well. 14 

## So actually, to the point about portability 15 

## and the impact on consumers of larger sizes, DOE 16 

## screened out one of the technology options, namely 17 

## the ducting insulation, because DOE is not aware of 18 

## any collapsible ducts that are insulated that have 19 

## been successfully used in any working prototypes or 20 

## any product that's on the market, and therefore if it 21 

## was not collapsible, an insulated duct would be 22 

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### able to move it around and perhaps store it when the 2 

### product is not in use, and also that such ducts would 3 

### not be feasible to manufacture. 4 

### So before I move on to the engineering 5 

### analysis, I would direct people, if you have further 6 

### questions on that, chapter 4 of the TSD contains the 7 

### screening analysis. If anybody has final thoughts 8 

### before we go to the engineering analysis please let 9 

### me know, okay. 10 

### The basic purpose of the engineering 11 

### analysis is to evaluate those design options that 12 

### made it through the screening analysis and to 13 

### determine how these technologies could be used to 14 

### improve efficiency, and fundamentally the end result 15 

### is to characterize the incremental manufacturer 16 

### production cost that would be required at each 17 

### incrementally higher efficiency level. 18 

### The results, that cost efficiency curve, 19 

### leads into various subsequent analyses that DOE 20 

### conducts to look at impacts to consumers, in the nation, 21 

### and also to manufacturers themselves. The steps that 22 

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## first of all identify the sample of products that 2 

## would be selected to be representative with the 3 

## current market. DOE selects products that are in a 4 

## range of capacities and configurations and 5 

## manufacturers, and with the information that's 6 

## available to us, a range of efficiencies. 7 

## DOE conducted testing of these products 8 

## according to the proposed test procedure and then 9 

## took all of them and tore them down, reverse 10 

## engineered them, to determine exactly what 11 

## technologies were implemented into each one of them, 12 

## and using some very detailed modeling, to identify the 13 

## manufacturing costs that are associated just with the 14 

## incremental efficiencies of those products. 15 

## Because of the limitations of the 16 

## available data and because of the desire to expand 17 

## the results beyond just the data points that were 18 

## available in the test sample, DOE used a numerical 19 

## model to generate some additional data points, and 20 

## from all this information determined what the 21 

## appropriate baseline relationship between capacity 22 

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### higher efficiency levels, and finally from that 2 

### information, to determine cost efficiency 3 

### relationships. 4 

### The sample that DOE used in the chart was 24 5 

### portable ACs. Of those, 17 were single-duct units and 7 6 

### were dual-duct. One unit had shipped with an optional 7 

### conversion kit, so DOE tested that unit both ways. 8 

### The selection was based on the rated information or 9 

### the information that manufacturers provided in terms 10 

### of capacity and efficiency, EERs, and again an attempt 11 

### was made to get a broad range of manufacturers so 12 

### that if manufacturers used different design 13 

### approaches, DOE would be able to evaluate all of 14 

### them. 15 

### So again because this was based on 16 

### available information to DOE in making the selection 17 

### before the testing was completed, those rated 18 

### capacities and the EER's are not necessarily what DOE 19 

### is going to come up with in terms of its performance 20 

### results using the proposed test procedures. 21 

### And so this is, Joanna, starting to address 22 

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## testing that accounted for the infiltration and the 2 

## additional heat transfer effects and found that there 3 

## was essentially a single relationship between -- for 4 

## all the products and in all the configurations and 5 

## manufacturers -- between cooling capacity and the 6 

## cooling mode energy efficiency ratio. So for that 7 

## reason, DOE determined that the single relationship 8 

## between those would accommodate all of the products 9 

## without requiring separate product classes. 10 

## MR. BROOKMAN: And this is Jim Crawford? 11 

## MR. CRAWFORD: This diagram is test 12 

## results? 13 

## MS. REICH: That's correct. 14 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Yes please, Alberto? 15 

## MR. ALOISI: Following questions, this was 16 

## according to the proposal of the test procedure 17 

## we saw this morning? 18 

## MS. REICH: That's correct yes. 19 

## MR. ALOISI: If I remember this morning on 20 

## the table which you showed, there were also negative 21 

## values of efficiency? 22 

## MS. REICH: That's right. For theThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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## purposes of the engineering analysis, DOE only 2 

## considered the products that are actually providing 3 

## net cooling of the space, -- 4 

## MR. ALOISI: And so you selected part of 5 

## the units that you tested. 6 

## MS. REICH: At the baseline we did not 7 

## consider products that were -- that did not provide 8 

## net cooling, but those particular units in terms of 9 

## once we had additional information from modeling, if 10 

## the data points wound up positive they would be 11 

## included. 12 

## MR. ALOISI: Thank you. 13 

## MS. REICH: So after its testing and 14 

## teardowns, DOE identified five potential approaches 15 

## that are being used or are likely to be used to 16 

## increase efficiency, and these are the air flow 17 

## optimizations that I discussed previously, which is 18 

## the reduction in infiltration air and the addition of 19 

## the second condenser duct, increase in the heat 20 

## exchanger area, improvements to both the compressor 21 

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## There were many other technology options 2 

## that made it through the screening analysis but DOE 3 

## does not believe that they were likely to be used for 4 

## increasing efficiency, so therefore didn't consider 5 

## them further in the engineering analysis. And there 6 

## were several reasons why. Either there was not 7 

## sufficient information to indicate that there would 8 

## be a specific gain in efficiency if we proceeded with 9 

## them, the proposed DOE test procedure might not 10 

## capture the incremental efficiency improvement 11 

## associated with them, and then that third point, and 12 

## this was based on both the teardowns, the testing and 13 

## discussions with manufacturers and observation of 14 

## products on the market, were that there were a number 15 

## of technologies that manufacturers were not likely to 16 

## pursue simply because the approaches above are more 17 

## cost effective so those would be the ones that they 18 

## focus on. 19 

## During the reverse engineering, the product 20 

## teardown process, DOE calculates the incremental 21 

## manufacturer production costs by tearing down these 22 

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### detailed bills of material. These describe the 2 

### components that are included in the products, and the 3 

### cost model includes everything from the material 4 

### unit costs, parts costs, labor, capital equipment and 5 

### overhead costs. 6 

### And again those bills of materials, because 7 

### of the detail of them, allows DOE to separate out the 8 

### costs associated strictly with the improvement in 9 

### efficiency versus the overall cost of the product. 10 

### So DOE is interested in comments, whether some of the 11 

### design options that were not included because they aren't 12 

### measured in the test procedure, namely, the variable 13 

### operating conditions or design options that result in 14 

### efficiency improvement under varying operating 15 

### conditions, and whether you have any comments on 16 

### whether the test procedures should include varying 17 

### ambient conditions. 18 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Yes, Jim Crawford? 19 

### MR. CRAWFORD: On the chart 98 you talk 20 

### about improved motor efficiency, compressor efficiency, 21 

### and improved blower efficiency. Are you assuming that 22 

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### MS. REICH: So for the blower motor 2 

### efficiency improvements, that was moving from PSC to a 3 

### permanent magnet motor. 4 

### MR. CRAWFORD: And the same thing on the 5 

### compressor? 6 

### MS. REICH: For the compressor, the 7 

### efficiency improvement was taken to be moving to a 8 

### compressor with a 10.5 Btu per watt hour EER rating, and that 9 

### was 10 

### based on a survey of compressors available on the 11 

### market now in the capacity ranges that are compatible 12 

### with the portable ACs. 13 

### MR. CRAWFORD: Same compressor technology? 14 

### MS. REICH: Yes. 15 

### MR. CRAWFORD: Thank you. 16 

### MR. BROOKMAN: You see there the request 17 

### for comment. Comments on the design options and 18 

### other issues that Judy had noted, okay. 19 

### MS. REICH: Okay so the next step is to 20 

### define the efficiency levels that would be used as 21 

### the basis of the subsequent analyses. So although a 22 

### sample was relatively large in terms of the number ofThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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### products that are available on the market, it did not 2 

### cover the entire range of efficiency levels and 3 

### design options that are technically technologically 4 

### feasible and therefore DOE would want to consider. 5 

### So in order to generate efficiency levels, 6 

### DOE supplemented its test data with modeling to 7 

### expand the number of data points that were used to 8 

### generate these efficiency levels. So the efficiency 9 

### levels that DOE selected were, at the baseline it 10 

### would be single-duct units from its test sample, and 11 

### what that means too is that that is all of the 12 

### condenser exhaust air is coming in through infiltration, so 13 

### 100% infiltration. 14 

### Efficiency level 1 was moving to a 15 

### dual-duct design with 50% of the infiltration, with 16 

### 50% of the exhaust air coming in through infiltration. 17 

### Efficiency level 2 is the same, but with 18 

### only 25% infiltration. And efficiency level 3 19 

### assumes that there is no infiltration air, so all of 20 

### the condenser exhaust air is coming in from outside 21 

### the conditioned space through the condenser inlet 22 

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## So with each one of efficiency levels 1 through 3, in 2 

## addition to the -- in addition to adding the second 3 

## duct and decreasing the infiltration air, there were 4 

## some minor adjustments that would be made to the 5 

## blower size, and there would also be, therefore, 6 

## associated impacts in temperatures and conditions of 7 

## the air flow that were required to be modeled using 8 

## this modeling tool that DOE has developed for room 9 

## air conditioners, that is called Mark N, that was 10 

## adapted for use with portable ACs. 11 

## The final efficiency level, the maximum 12 

## technologically feasible level, is efficiency level 4, 13 

## and that is starting from efficiency level 3 and 14 

## adding some additional component improvements that 15 

## included the increased heat exchanger size, 16 

## improvements to compressor efficiency and blower 17 

## motor efficiency that I just mentioned, and the low 18 

## standby electronic controls. And there was some 19 

## consideration made to how much the heat exchanger 20 

## size could grow without substantially impacting 21 

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## size increase that was modeled. 2 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Stefano? 3 

## MR. VIT: This approach is incremental -- 4 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Speak louder. 5 

## MR. VIT: This approach where efficiency 6 

## under 1, 2 and 3 is due to the fact that main 7 

## contribution was a negative effect of infiltration 8 

## and we want to remind that the first one is not -- is 9 

## because you are considering 95, which is associated 10 

## with 2% -- when we change this kind of 11 

## improvement potential scenario should be adopted. It 12 

## is true only if you will see the infiltration in the 13 

## worst condition that happens in 2% of the cooling 14 

## season. 15 

## MS. REICH: That's a very good point that 16 

## you make about its dependence on the infiltration air 17 

## conditions, so any information that stakeholders may 18 

## be able to provide about what the best and most 19 

## representative condition is, would be very 20 

## helpful. 21 

## MR. VIT: We will provide you with data. 22 

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## you. 2 

## MS. REICH: So the next few slides are 3 

## going to be charts, and so I'm going to do my best to 4 

## walk you through them. If you have tricky questions 5 

## I'm going to hand them over to Troy. So this plot is 6 

## a combination of all the data that DOE developed from 7 

## its test sample both from testing and from using its 8 

## modeling tools to generate additional data points at 9 

## higher efficiency levels. 10 

## So each one of these curves in a different 11 

## color represents a single test unit, where the 12 

## starting data point on the lower left would be 13 

## product as tested and then the additional data points 14 

## along the curve as you move upward represent the 15 

## modeling results. 16 

## You can see that the curves generally 17 

## increase in cooling capacity as the infiltration area 18 

## is reduced and then that final very vertical segment 19 

## of the line represents the max tech level where 20 

## component improvements are added that don't have a 21 

## lot of effect on cooling capacity, but do result in an 22 

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## MR. BROOKMAN: Yes, Joanna? 2 

## MS. MAUER: Joanna Mauer, so I'm still 3 

## trying to think through the test efficiency 4 

## relationship, but this plot suggests to me that 5 

## achievable efficiency is not a function of capacity, 6 

## that EL 4 level across that fairly wide range of 7 

## capacity is 3,000 to 9,000 BTU's per hour, units can 8 

## achieve the same EER level. So I'm trying to 9 

## reference them, and this graph was the proposal for 10 

## efficiency to be a function of capacity. 11 

## MS. REICH: I think as we step through to 12 

## the next couple plots I think you will see hopefully 13 

## a little more clearly. I think the reason why there 14 

## is a fair amount of scatter here is that there are, 15 

## among the products tested, there were a variety of 16 

## different design approaches and different product 17 

## configurations that manufacturers chose to implement. 18 

## So what you will see in the next graphs is means that 19 

## DOE used to separate out just looking at a whole set 20 

## of possible design options at each potential 21 

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### So because the cooling mode energy 2 

### efficiency ratio includes cooling capacity, we wanted 3 

### to find a more fundamental relationship between the 4 

### cooling capacity and the power consumption of the 5 

### unit, and so this is just the same data from the 6 

### previous plot with the cooling capacity removed from 7 

### the EER metric to just wind up with the power 8 

### consumption. 9 

### And so one of the things that you can note 10 

### here is that although the different products may wind up, 11 

### may start out at different efficiencies. The slopes 12 

### of these, except for that max tech level, but the 13 

### slopes where we are reducing the infiltration area 14 

### are all quite similar, so it indicates that kind of 15 

### the same relative efficiency improvement is 16 

### achievable, or it would be expected on a product 17 

### regardless of where its starting point was. 18 

### So then, rather than organizing the data by 19 

### unit, by test unit, DOE took that same data and 20 

### merged the data points together by which efficiency 21 

### level each data point was associated with. So the 22 

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## starting with the green data point, that's the 2 

## baseline efficiency level, and then as you go to 50% 3 

## and 25% and zero% infiltration area and then 4 

## component improvements, you have separate clusters of 5 

## data for each efficiency level. 6 

## And then from each one of those sets of 7 

## data points, DOE fit a curve to describe the general 8 

## trend between capacity and power, and DOE tried, you 9 

## know, a number of different curve fits and determined 10 

## that a linear fit is indeed most appropriate. It 11 

## provided the best fit to those data and also the 12 

## slopes again, the slopes are relatively similar so 13 

## that there is a constant incremental change as you 14 

## move to higher and higher efficiency levels, 15 

## regardless of the cooling -- it was independent of 16 

## cooling capacity. 17 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Stefano? 18 

## MR. VIT: And we would like to underline 19 

## that this proves that when the outdoor temperature, 20 

## it will be really interesting to see, the sensitivity 21 

## -- when outdoor temperature is -- . 22 

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### MR. CRAWFORD: What kind of R squared did 2 

### you have on those curves? 3 

### MS. REICH: I don't know off hand. 4 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Troy? 5 

### MR. WATSON: This is Troy Watson. I don't 6 

### know off the top of my head but you can see it's not 7 

### a great fit here. We tried the different curve types 8 

### and the linear fit had the best R squared. 9 

### MR. CRAWFORD: I'd be surprised if it's a 10 

### number that is kind of embarrassingly low. 11 

### MR. WATSON: As Judy was mentioning before, 12 

### the starting point for all these data points was the 13 

### test unit we had in our sample, and those units gave a 14 

### variety of data points for the potential configurations. 15 

### So DOE found improvements to the air flow and then 16 

### the max tech changes based on those starting points. 17 

### So those are your range of data points at the start, and 18 

### they kind of carried on. 19 

### What we had to do is, the test sample included 20 

### several units, and DOE tried to capture a wide 21 

### range of the market, DOE believes these are 22 

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## MR. CRAWFORD: But you have done a 2 

## regression analysis. You decided there was a linear 3 

## model and looking at the data I don't know what else 4 

## you would use, and you have given two coefficients. 5 

## But the regression assumes that the correlation 6 

## coefficient is equally important to know whether or 7 

## not those are really good representations of the 8 

## data. 9 

## MR. WATSON: So just to respond, if you 10 

## would go back a slide please. So the point of those 11 

## linear fits was to try to quantify the jumps to the 12 

## right and then down on this chart, so that by coming 13 

## up with overall linear equations on the last slide, 14 

## we had to quantify the changes between the efficiency 15 

## levels. 16 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Jim? 17 

## MR. CRAWFORD: Taken as an average, power 18 

## versus capacity curves, these are nice in terms of 19 

## correlation. The next set of curves, they look like 20 

## scatter diagrams. 21 

## MR. WATSON: So those are all the same 22 

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### you were to draw a line between the baseline and EL1, 2 

### EL2 and EL3 on this plot you would end up with the 3 

### lines on the previous plot, and so in this one if they 4 

### separated out all the data points, looking at these, that 5 

### are all baseline units, et cetera, and then the linear 6 

### fits to those data points allowed us to quantify the 7 

### jumps to the efficiency levels. 8 

### MR. CRAWFORD: Except that in the 9 

### preceding diagram you did try to begin to group 10 

### things together, group the data from individual 11 

### curves together. Your individual curves look good. 12 

### You group them together and you have a scatter, 13 

### pretty close to a scatter diagram, and you know the 14 

### correlation coefficients are very important to know 15 

### how comfortable one ought to be with going anywhere 16 

### with that diagram. 17 

### MR. WATSON: Well I guess the difficulty 18 

### here is we have to come up with numbers in some way 19 

### that tries to best reflect the overall market. So we 20 

### have to move from some of those individual curves to 21 

### an overall kind of summary of the market at some point. 22 

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### or anyone else want to give us some improvements we 2 

### would appreciate it. 3 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Judy? 4 

### MS. REICH: Before I move on I just want 5 

### to point out that each one of these linear fits 6 

### provides a set of coefficients that DOE then used to 7 

### generate the EER versus cooling capacity equations 8 

### that characterize the industry average baseline and 9 

### then subsequent higher efficiency levels that the DOE 10 

### used in its analysis. So in this table, the A&B 11 

### coefficients came from those linear fits, and then 12 

### EER in cooling mode is just cooling capacity 13 

### divided by the average power. 14 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Joanna? 15 

### MS. MAUER: One observation related to, I 16 

### think, one of those earlier questions. So if you do 17 

### continue the curves to the negative cooling capacity 18 

### range, the ordering of the curves flips, so it looks like 19 

### the units that you tested that do have negative 20 

### cooling capacities actually would meet all of the 21 

### efficiency levels that were evaluated. Presumably, if 22 

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## as the basis for information about cooling capacity, 2 

## they will have an incentive to not to produce units 3 

## with negative cooling capacities, but it still seems 4 

## better to not have that kind of odd result where you 5 

## could have a unit with a negative cooling capacity 6 

## that meets you know, the EL 4 for example. 7 

## MS. REICH: Because we didn't include 8 

## negative data points in generating these curves, it's 9 

## not valid to extend them into the negative range. So 10 

## this analysis is based on the assumption that a 11 

## portable AC be intended for the purpose to provide net 12 

## cooling capacity. 13 

## MS. MAUER: This is Joanna, so if a 14 

## manufacturer did produce a negative cooling capacity, 15 

## would it mean that that product couldn't be rated or 16 

## -- 17 

## MR. CYMBALSKY: These are all on the 18 

## market. 19 

## MR. BROOKMAN: John Cymbalsky, microphone. 20 

## MR. CYMBALSKY: The testing that we did, we 21 

## found units that provided that. 22 

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## think have higher efficiency levels than EL 4 because 2 

## of what happens to the curve when you get up to the 3 

## negative capacity range, just an observation. 4 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Jim Crawford? 5 

## MR. CRAWFORD: What will happen to the 6 

## curve is they will really do something squirrely 7 

## because they are going to go up as you get into the 8 

## second quadrant. You think of them as continuing on 9 

## down. They won't, they are going to go up. If they 10 

## continued on down it would say that the unit was 11 

## producing power. 12 

## MS. MAUER: This is Joanna. When I 13 

## plotted them they did continue to go down and the 14 

## ordering shifted. 15 

## MR. CRAWFORD: They are going to go back 16 

## up. 17 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay, yes? 18 

## MS. MAUER: This is Joanna, if I could 19 

## just ask another question. I was looking at the 20 

## earlier plot showing the modeled EER values on slide 21 

## 102 versus capacity, where the maximum values are in 22 

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## understand how that relates to the efficiency level 2 

## curves, so that the modeled EER values at EL 4 seemed 3 

## to be higher than the EL 4 curve? 4 

## MS. REICH: So as you can see in this 5 

## chart on slide 1 and 2, there is an entire range of 6 

## data points at EL 4 that, oh I'm seeing one that's 7 

## just over 4 to over 7. So again, what we are trying to 8 

## do is model the industry average with the EL 4 curve, 9 

## so there will be some data points that are above it 10 

## and some that are below it. 11 

## MS. MAUER: This is Joanna. I guess I am 12 

## having trouble understanding why it makes sense to 13 

## model the industry average when you are looking at 14 

## the maximum technology values? 15 

## MS. REICH: Because the max tech level is 16 

## a function of particular products that you are 17 

## starting with and then the application of all of the 18 

## potential efficiency improvements to it, so different 19 

## design approaches will have a different potential 20 

## maximum efficiency improvement. 21 

## MS. MAUER: This is Joanna. But is there 22 

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### the maximum values that you found through the 2 

### modeling? 3 

### MR. WATSON: This Troy Watson again. I 4 

### think by going to the average values, were hoping to 5 

### get rid of some of the uncertainty with the modeling. 6 

### So on this plot you can see, I think the two data 7 

### points are the top left ones, and I think those 8 

### started off with net heating first. So it's a 9 

### huge jump to go from the net heating to where those 10 

### ended up. So those two specific data points may not 11 

### actually be representing a max tech. By taking the 12 

### average of those and the other ones, I think you have 13 

### more appropriate data. 14 

### MS. MAUER: Okay, it looks like even the 15 

### one on the higher end where there are some units having 16 

### EER's of 7 or above which are higher than El 4. 17 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Let's keep going. 18 

### MS. REICH: So finally the last step in 19 

### the engineering analysis is to develop cost 20 

### efficiency relationships, and as I mentioned before, DOE 21 

### used its reverse engineering process to develop the 22 

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## unit, and then it determined an average incremental 2 

## cost at each of the higher efficiency levels based on 3 

## those incremental costs for each unit. 4 

## And this slide presents the cost 5 

## information that DOE has estimated in their analysis. 6 

## So you can see that the first three efficiency 7 

## levels, 1, 2, 3, have relatively modest incremental 8 

## costs because the only changes that would be 9 

## associated with those levels is that air flow 10 

## optimization, the addition of a second duct and 11 

## potentially a small increase in the blower size. More 12 

## significant modifications would be made at EL 4 13 

## because of the inclusion of higher efficiency 14 

## components, so therefore there's a significant jump 15 

## between EL 3 and the max tech level. 16 

## MR. BROOKMAN: There is no request for 17 

## comment box here but any additional thoughts, 18 

## questions or comments on these last few slides? Cost 19 

## efficiency relationships on 106 and 107? Yes Stefano? 20 

## MR. VIT: Just to underline what we said 21 

## before -- 22 

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## MR. VIT: Just to underline what we said 2 

## already in our statement, EL 3 is a double duct -- I 3 

## see a differently priced of -- I wonder how this 4 

## could be incorporated as we don't have any example or 5 

## what example of this solution. 6 

## MS. REICH: I believe that cost was 7 

## associated with the different case design that 8 

## included sealing, so that there would be no additional 9 

## or no infiltration air. 10 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Jim Crawford? 11 

## MR. CRAWFORD: Well as I look at this 12 

## diagram 107, I wonder what capacity those incremental 13 

## costs relate to. Like we have been talking about a 14 

## range of 5,000 to 14,000 and I would think that 15 

## incremental efficiency bump at the lower end of the 16 

## capacity would be different costs than the bump 17 

## at the higher capacity. 18 

## MS. REICH: This represents an average 19 

## across all capacities. 20 

## MR. CRAWFORD: Thank you. 21 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Thank you Judy. Final 22 

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### lunch and it's now almost 10 minutes after 1. 2 

### Typically we go for an hour for lunch. Do you think 3 

### we could try for 45 minutes? Several individuals 4 

### have indicated they would like to press on with this. 5 

### Let's try for 45 minutes, which means we will resume 6 

### at 5 minutes until 2 in this room. Please make sure 7 

### to wear a badge if you go to the big cafeteria. You 8 

### might need -- probably will need an ID a photo ID to 9 

### get back to the security portal. This room will be 10 

### secured and watched so you could leave your stuff 11 

### here. 12 

### For those of you that don't -- aren't 13 

### familiar with the layout, you need to go down to the 14 

### ground floor and about 100 yards in that direction. 15 

### There will be a bunch of us going in that direction. 16 

### There's also a Subway sandwich shop down where the 17 

### Dunkin Donuts is on the ground floor that a way okay? So 45 18 

### minutes, don't linger. 19 

### (OFF THE RECORD) 20 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Okay let's start back up. 21 

### I should probably start by congratulating you all. I 22 

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## ever successfully reconvened after only 45 minutes of 2 

## lunch. We did well. So let's pick up where we left 3 

## off and we are going to hear from Nicole. 4 

## MS. BUCCITELLI: I'm Nicole Buccitelli 5 

## from Navigant, presenting the preliminary manufacturer 6 

## impact analysis. The purpose of the manufacturer 7 

## impact analysis is to assess the impacts of the 8 

## energy conservation standards on 9 

## manufacturers, and in doing this, estimate impacts on 10 

## manufacturer subgroups such as small businesses that 11 

## may be disproportionately impacted and also 12 

## to examine cumulative regulatory burdens, impacts to 13 

## direct employment, competition and manufacturing 14 

## capacity within the industry. 15 

## In terms of methodology, the government 16 

## regulatory impact model is used to analyze industry 17 

## cash flows and to estimate industry net present value 18 

## at the base case and at possible standard levels. 19 

## Interviews with manufacturers were used to find 20 

## inputs to the GRIM, develop subgroup analyses and in 21 

## order to address the qualitative issues that arise. 22 

## In a bit more detail, the MIA isThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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## broken down into three phases of analysis. In phase 2 

## 1, DOE builds from the information developed in the 3 

## market and target assessment, supplementing the 4 

## information with additional market research in order 5 

## to create an industry profile. 6 

## During this phase, DOE also identifies 7 

## important issues that will require further 8 

## investigation. In phase 2, DOE developed a 9 

## preliminary industry cash flow model using the 10 

## information compiled in phase 1 and initial inputs 11 

## from the engineering and shipments analyses, and 12 

## prepares an interview guide which will form the basis 13 

## of discussions with manufacturers. 14 

## In phase 3, DOE interviews manufacturers 15 

## and uses information obtained from the interviews to 16 

## refine the GRIM and to qualitatively assess impacts 17 

## on employment, competition, manufacturing capacity 18 

## and regulatory burdens. 19 

## In the preliminary interviews for this 20 

## rule, manufacturers voiced several concerns relating 21 

## to potential standards for portable ACs. First, 22 

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## could price out a segment of customers or that 2 

## customers could choose to purchase room ACs 3 

## instead of portable ACs. Manufacturers are also 4 

## concerned that these standards could lessen 5 

## competition within the industry and could negatively 6 

## impact consumer utility associated with the product 7 

## features such as size, noise level and ease of water 8 

## disposal. 9 

## Finally, manufacturers expressed concerns 10 

## about the cumulative regulatory burdens they face as 11 

## portable ACs are typically only one of a suite of 12 

## products that they produce. 13 

## Navigant will be contacting manufacturers 14 

## relatively soon in order to schedule NOPR phase 15 

## interviews, and we would encourage participation in 16 

## those interviews and those will provide an 17 

## opportunity to inform the more major components of 18 

## the manufacturer impact analysis including conversion 19 

## costs. 20 

## DOE seeks comments on the identification 21 

## of key issues and requests information from 22 

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## potential impact on manufacturers, and then also DOE 2 

## requests feedback on subgroups to analyze and or 3 

## characteristics appropriate for sub group 4 

## analyses. 5 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Jennifer? 6 

## MS. CLEARY: Jennifer Cleary, at the risk 7 

## of sounding like a broken record here, manufacturers 8 

## really do want to participate and of course will 9 

## encourage their members to participate in the areas 10 

## with Navigant, but I am concerned that the test 11 

## procedure is not close to being final and therefore 12 

## is going to be very difficult, and not necessarily 13 

## for all aspects of the rulemaking, but for many, it is 14 

## going to be very difficult for manufacturers to 15 

## provide you with the full input that includes test 16 

## data, and therefore is going to be very difficult for 17 

## DOE to get an accurate picture of a market that 18 

## doesn't you know, have large amounts of -- so I would 19 

## just urge DOE again to release the final test 20 

## procedure before it goes to the manufacturer 21 

## interviews and is in place. 22 

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### boxes there, identification of key issues and 2 

### requests for data information, and also manufacturer 3 

### subgroups including small business manufacturers, 4 

### those with different cost structures, et cetera. Any 5 

### additional thoughts or comments here? Okay. 6 

### MS. DUNHAM: Good afternoon my name is 7 

### Camilla Dunham, I work at Lawrence Berkeley National 8 

### Laboratory. We are now getting into economic 9 

### analyses that are part of the standards rulemaking, 10 

### specifically the lifecycle costs and payback period 11 

### analysis and the national impact analysis. I am 12 

### going to talk about the LCC in my comments and Chun Chun Ni 13 

### will talk about the NIA. 14 

### So for the lifecycle cost analysis, it's a 15 

### sum of the total installed cost and the lifetime 16 

### operating costs. I am going to focus now on one of 17 

### the inputs into the total installed cost, which is the 18 

### markup development. 19 

### From the engineering analysis we receive 20 

### manufacturer costs. We need to transform those 21 

### manufacturer costs into their consumer price. 22 

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## adjustment. So from manufacturer to consumer, 2 

## markups reflect each step along the distribution 3 

## chain. 4 

## For portable air conditioners the 5 

## distribution chain is pretty straight forward. 6 

## Manufacturers sell to retailers who then sell to 7 

## consumers. The first markup is the manufacturer 8 

## markup, which is developed from the Security and 9 

## Exchange Commission 10K reports. The retailer 10 

## markup comes from the annual retail trade survey, 11 

## ARTS, and the consumer markup is the sales tax which 12 

## is developed from the Sales Tax Clearing House. That 13 

## information is used in the model. 14 

## We also have baseline markups and 15 

## incremental markups. Baseline markups relate the 16 

## cost to price, prior to efficiency improvements. 17 

## Baseline markups include direct costs such as 18 

## salaries, rent and payroll. Incremental markups are 19 

## applied to each efficiency level above the baseline 20 

## and do not include direct costs. Incremental markups 21 

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## Here you have a slide that shows the three 2 

## different types of markups for both residential and 3 

## commercial instances or applications. And here is 4 

## another comment box. Are there any comments at this 5 

## point in terms of the markup determination? 6 

## So we are back to this flow chart. You are 7 

## going to see it again, but I'm moving to the lower 8 

## left-hand side of the slide to talk about an input 9 

## into the lifetime operating cost, which is the energy 10 

## use. DOE needs to know how much energy portable air 11 

## conditioners use so that it can estimate possible 12 

## savings with a difference between the baseline and 13 

## higher efficiency products. 14 

## From the engineering analysis we receive 15 

## energy use by efficiency level for different modes, 16 

## cooling, fan only and standby power. With the Energy 17 

## Information Administration's consumption surveys, RECS 18 

## and CBECS, we use room air conditioner information to 19 

## approximate the presence of portable air conditioners 20 

## in residences and also in the commercial sector. 21 

## This slide shows the calculation flow. We 22 

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## multiply that by the annual energy hours to get the 2 

## annual energy use, I'm sorry annual operating hours, 3 

## to get the annual energy use, the equation that you 4 

## will see on the bottom of the slide. 5 

## So available studies allow us to express 6 

## the annual energy use for both residential and 7 

## commercial installations. These are some of the 8 

## sources that we have for operating hours. Due to a 9 

## lack of information, a lot of the information we 10 

## assumed from room air conditioners. This slide shows 11 

## power consumption by efficiency level for the 12 

## baseline and then each of the four efficiency levels. 13 

## This slide shows the annual energy use 14 

## again for the baseline and the four efficiency 15 

## levels. A request for comment on the energy use 16 

## determination, any comments at this point? 17 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Jim Crawford. 18 

## MR. CRAWFORD: Jim Crawford, what's the 19 

## capacity of the nominal unit using chart 126? 20 

## MS. DUNHAM: Troy? 21 

## MR. WATSON: I -- 22 

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## sorry it's there. 2 

## MS. DUNHAM: Sorry, I was looking at 127. 3 

## Yes, it's there on 126. 4 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Comments on energy use 5 

## determination? 6 

## MS. DUNHAM: Okay so this flow chart shows 7 

## all the remaining inputs -- 8 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Excuse me, Len Swatkowski, 9 

## you're next. Please, you are unmuted; please speak. 10 

## MR. SWATKOWSKI: Yes, this is Len 11 

## Swatkowski from OceanAire. As far as the energy use 12 

## on commercial, is that looking at a certain unit or 13 

## certain size commercial unit? Because a range -- when 14 

## Judy talked earlier about the range being up to 15 

## 14,000 being used, there are commercial units that go 16 

## larger in our sector, that we won't get into any 17 

## commercial portables, only to the 5,000 BTUs. 18 

## MS. DUNHAM: I should have perhaps 19 

## underlined this point a little bit more strongly. We 20 

## are looking at residential appliances that are used 21 

## in commercial establishments. We are not considering 22 

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### MR. SWATKOWSKI: Okay. 2 

### MS. DUNHAM: These are -- 3 

### MR. SWATKOWSKI: Thank you. 4 

### MR. CYMBALSKY: This is John from DOE so 5 

### just to clarify that, you know based on our earlier 6 

### discussion about the commercial spot coolers, this 7 

### analysis does not, you know, place them into this 8 

### analysis; it doesn't consider them. What it does 9 

### consider and I think there are many of us probably in 10 

### this room who have seen residential portable 11 

### ACs that are considered here that are used in 12 

### restaurants and other office buildings. They actually 13 

### use them here at DOE. I have seen it several times. 14 

### So what we are trying to do is capture the 15 

### energy use of portable ACs across the spectrum of 16 

### their applications so it is going to bleed into the 17 

### commercial sector. 18 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Jim Crawford? 19 

### MR. CRAWFORD: I thought I had the answer 20 

### to Len's question and then I found out I'm more 21 

### confused than I thought I was because the EERs shown 22 

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### 126 shows almost three-to-one treated variation in capacity 2 

### but some assume capacity constant appears to have been used 3 

### on 127. Otherwise I don't think that the energy uses would 4 

### have decreased as you went to higher efficiency 5 

### levels. 6 

### MS. DUNHAM: You can get more information 7 

### about this in chapter 7 of the Technical Support 8 

### Document. 9 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Okay. 10 

### MS. DUNHAM: So in the Life-Cycle Cost and the 11 

### Payback Period analysis we look at, the LLC 12 

### calculation, produces the total cost to the consumer 13 

### over the life of the product. The payback period is 14 

### the amount of time needed to recover the increase in 15 

### purchase price of a more efficient piece of 16 

### equipment, a more efficient portable air conditioner. 17 

### The purpose of the LCC analysis is to compare the 18 

### lifetime impacts between the baseline efficiency 19 

### level and the higher efficiency levels. 20 

### Using consumer samples from RECS and CBECS, 21 

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## We calculate the LCC savings by subtracting the 2 

## lifecycle cost of each efficiency level from the 3 

## lifecycle cost of what the consumer would have 4 

## purchased in the absence of a standard. We 5 

## determined both first year and lifetime operating 6 

## costs, so the payback period divides the average 7 

## increase in installed cost by the average decrease in 8 

## first year operating costs. 9 

## DOE conducts the LCC using a Monte Carlo 10 

## simulation. A Monte Carlo simulation and probability 11 

## distributions model both the uncertainties and the 12 

## variabilities of the inputs, enabling DOE to identify 13 

## the percentages of consumers who either benefit from 14 

## or who are negatively impacted by a prospective 15 

## standard. 16 

## Each Monte Carlo simulation represents 17 

## 10,000 LCC calculations to reduce the error brought 18 

## by uncertainty and variability. As mentioned before, 19 

## the RECS household sample is used for residential 20 

## appliances and CBECS is used for residential 21 

## appliances used in the commercial setting. 22 

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## inputs. The total installed cost is the sum of the 2 

## consumer product price and the installation costs. 3 

## We have already covered the consumer product price 4 

## determination in the markups discussion. Installation 5 

## costs are based on information from the R.S. Means 6 

## residential cost data. DOE assumed that installation 7 

## costs would not vary depending on efficiency level, 8 

## so this input drops away from the calculation. 9 

## Now on to operating costs inputs -- this 10 

## slide shows the category of inputs in the lifetime 11 

## operating costs. They include 12 

## annual operating costs, lifetime discount rates and 13 

## electricity price trends. To get annual energy 14 

## costs, we include energy prices that we get from 15 

## EIA's Form 861 and energy trends are taken from the 16 

## Annual Energy Outlook. 17 

## Repair and maintenance costs are assumed 18 

## not to vary with efficiency level and so these drop 19 

## away from the calculation as did installation costs. 20 

## So are there any comments or questions to what I 21 

## covered so far, specifically we are looking for 22 

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## to different efficiency levels. 2 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Jennifer? 3 

## MS. CLEARY: Jennifer Cleary. This is, I 4 

## guess, not specific, so I apologize. But overall, the 5 

## analysis we have been discussing and its reliance on 6 

## RECS and CBECS -- I think my concern and I need to 7 

## investigate it further for our written comments, but 8 

## it's concerning to me that a lot of this analysis is 9 

## based on that data which is for room air conditioners, 10 

## not portable air conditioners. It's really placing a 11 

## lot of eggs in the basket, assuming that those 12 

## products have similar usage patterns and similar 13 

## market penetration. I don't believe that either of 14 

## those is necessarily the case. So we will provide 15 

## more details in our written comments, but I think that 16 

## it's very possible that that data may not be 17 

## sufficient for DOE's analysis. 18 

## MR. BROOKMAN: John Cymbalsky? 19 

## MR. CYMBALSKY: John from DOE. So earlier 20 

## I think someone mentioned in their opening remarks 21 

## this morning about how De'Longhi has raised concern 22 

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## recollection was it sounded just like the way someone 2 

## would use a room air conditioners. I just heard what 3 

## he said, but that was my interpretation of the opening 4 

## remarks. We will have to go back to the transcript 5 

## and look, but if that's true, then I would expect the 6 

## operating hours to be similar because it seems like 7 

## these things intention is to cool a room. But if 8 

## that's not the intention, and I think that's what I 9 

## heard him say and I guess I would like to know why 10 

## the operating hours would be any different than that. 11 

## And if we do think that the temperature 12 

## set points at 70 degrees and not 95, I would expect 13 

## people are using these things a lot more than a 14 

## regular air conditioner, but I don't think people 15 

## will turn it on at 70 degrees, at least in the states. 16 

## Just a couple of observations with the operating -- 17 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Alberto? 18 

## MR. ALOISI: Alberto Aloisi, and it was not 19 

## my intention to compare portable with 20 

## room. I agree that they are two different categories, 21 

## but what my intention was to specify on the opposite 22 

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### are different from the other categories of 2 

### conditioners. 3 

### MS. CLEARY: This is Jennifer. Following 4 

### up on that point, I think you mentioned, John, that 5 

### both products are used to cool and that's true. But 6 

### that doesn't mean consumers use them to cool a room 7 

### under the same circumstances, and those circumstances 8 

### that the consumers are using them for may change: the 9 

### time of year that they are using them and the 10 

### frequency with which they are using them, and 11 

### certainly can change the number of consumers who even 12 

### have the products. And I think that those fundamental 13 

### assumptions are what's key for many of these analyses 14 

### and could drastically change them. 15 

### MR. CYMBALSKY: So maybe we can discuss a 16 

### little bit more about what those times are that they 17 

### use them, is it when it's cooler out or hotter out, more of 18 

### a quick need or not? 19 

### MS. CLEARY: Jennifer Cleary, we'll gladly 20 

### provide more detail in our written comments. 21 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Okay, thank you Jennifer. 22 

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### of portable ACs? 2 

### MS. DUNHAM: I'm really glad you gave me 3 

### this opportunity to move the slide forward. So to 4 

### express annual operating costs and lifetime operating 5 

### costs you need to determine the lifetime of portable 6 

### air conditioners, and we do that with a Weibull 7 

### probability distribution. DOE used historical 8 

### shipments data and product saturations for room air 9 

### conditioners, lacking other information available, and 10 

### estimated a lifetime of about 10 and a half years. Does 11 

### that answer the question from -- 12 

### MR. BROOKMAN: I think that helps, it 13 

### answers his question, yeah. 14 

### MS. DUNHAM: When considering future 15 

### costs, we need to use a discount rate to establish 16 

### their present value. DOE uses publically available 17 

### data from the Federal Reserve Board Survey of Consumer 18 

### Finance and estimated consumers opportunity cost of funds 19 

### related to appliance energy cost savings. The 20 

### discount rate value is applied in the LCC model to 21 

### future year energy cost savings, non-energy 22 

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## estimated net LCC and LCC savings. 2 

## DOE notes that the discount rate used in 3 

## the LCC analysis is distinct from an implicit 4 

## discount rate and that it is not used to model 5 

## consumer purchase decisions. 6 

## DOE does not assume that all machines in use or to be 7 

## purchased are at the baseline efficiency level. 8 

## Consumers already use and purchase products at 9 

## efficiencies greater than or equal to a prospective 10 

## standard level. 11 

## Base case efficiency distribution allows a 12 

## more accurate estimation of consumer impacts by 13 

## representing different efficiency levels, either 14 

## currently being used or yet to be purchased. These 15 

## are based on analysis of market data of online 16 

## portable air conditioner retailers. 17 

## A request for question or comment? 18 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Comments on base case 19 

## efficiency distributions, ok. 20 

## MS. DUNHAM: Here are some preliminary 21 

## analysis results showing the lifecycle costs and 22 

## payback periods. You will note that all of theThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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## lifecycle costs are positive and less than 2 years. 2 

## MR. BROOKMAN: We have a comment box here 3 

## do we have comments on the lifecycle costs and 4 

## payback period analysis? Yes, Stefano? 5 

## MR. VIT: Baseline is market share 90%. 6 

## Does it mean that 90% is a single-duct? 7 

## MS. DUNHAM: It assumes that the baseline 8 

## efficiency level is 90% of the market share at the 9 

## time of 2019 will be at 90% or the baseline level. So 10 

## it doesn't assume single-duct. It assumes a particular 11 

## efficiency level. 12 

## MR. VIT: I'm just asking, after the 1, 2, 13 

## 3, 4 are double duct and the first one is 14 

## single-duct, speaking about -- am I wrong? 15 

## MS. DUNHAM: What we do in the lifecycle 16 

## cost analysis is we consider one product class and we 17 

## look at the efficiency levels for that one product 18 

## class. So there -- 19 

## MR. VIT: I understand. 20 

## MS. DUNHAM: Okay. 21 

## MR. VIT: In this specific case a 22 

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### MS. DUNHAM: That's correct. 2 

### MR. VIT: So baseline 90% is a single-duct, 3 

### I suppose, and just need information about that. So you 4 

### are assuming that 90% of the market is single-duct 5 

### and 5% is double-duct, then 50% of the -- is 6 

### efficiency level 1, efficiency level 2 is for a 7 

### single-duct, double-duct has 25% penetration, because 8 

### the third case is a double-duct that is a sealed 9 

### double-duct. 10 

### MS. DUNHAM: I'm going to see if I can get 11 

### more information. 12 

### MS. CHUN NI: Based on -- 13 

### MR. BROOKMAN: You are not on yet. 14 

### MS. CHUN NI: Chun Chun Ni, LBNL, the 15 

### baseline here is based on the engineering. It's a 16 

### single-duct. The 90% is single-duct products. 17 

### MR. VIT: So you are saying that 18 

### efficiency level 1 is double-duct and 50% penetration 19 

### and efficiency level 2 is double-duct and 30% 20 

### penetration? 21 

### MS. CHUN NI: The efficiency level 1 and 2 22 

### are based on our data base. It contains single andThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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### two-duct models. 2 

### MR. VIT: Sure. 3 

### MR. CYMBALSKY: I think if we -- this is 4 

### John from DOE. If we go back to slide 101, I think this 5 

### is what Stefano was referring to. 6 

### MR. VIT: Yes, thank you, okay. 7 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Okay. 8 

### MR. VIT: So assuming we are in 2019, this 9 

### would be the distribution? 10 

### MS. DUNHAM: That's right. 11 

### MR. CYMBALSKY: So absent any standards -- 12 

### all right, so this is before a potential standard. 13 

### MR. VIT: Thank you. 14 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Any additional thoughts, 15 

### comments here, okay. 16 

### MS. DUNHAM: I am going to turn the podium 17 

### over to my colleague, Chun Chun Ni. 18 

### MS. CHUN NI: My name again is Chun Chun 19 

### Ni, I'm from LBNL. I will talk about DOE's Shipments 20 

### and the National Impact Analysis for portable air 21 

### conditioners. First I will talk about the shipments 22 

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### estimate shipments of portable ACs over a 30-year 2 

### analysis period for both the base case and the 3 

### standards case. 4 

### The shipments are the inputs to both the 5 

### National Impact Analysis and Manufacturer Impact Analysis. 6 

### The analysis relies on a range of 7 

### data sources, including historical shipments data. 8 

### The shipments analysis considers portable air 9 

### conditioners are purchased either for replacement 10 

### purposes or are purchased by first time owners. The 11 

### flow chart here shows the approach that DOE took for 12 

### the shipments analysis. DOE first estimated total 13 

### shipments which account for replacement and first 14 

### time owners. 15 

### DOE then divided the total shipments into the 16 

### commercial sector and the residential sector. The 17 

### table here summarizes the inputs that DOE used for 18 

### the shipments analysis. So first for the historical 19 

### shipments data, DOE assumed portable air conditioners 20 

### accounted for about 10% of the total shipments of 21 

### room air conditioners based on the Natural Resources Canada's 22 

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### DOE then relied on the historical room ACs 2 

### shipments data which was submitted with the previous 3 

### rulemaking for room air conditioners. DOE added 4 

### 2010 to 2012 data points by using UBMs market 5 

### research report. For the market share by user 6 

### sector, DOE relied on the data that was derived from 7 

### the LCC analysis. DOE assumed that that residential 8 

### sector accounts for about 99% and the commercial 9 

### sector accounts for about 1% of the total amount 10 

### here. 11 

### As for the replacement, DOE relied on the 12 

### lifetime retirement function that was also developed 13 

### in the lifecycle cost and the payback period 14 

### analysis. Based on the historical shipments data and 15 

### the total housing stock data, DOE estimated that 16 

### about 0.17% of the households will become first time owners 17 

### and will purchase the product annually 18 

### between 2013 and 2048. 19 

### The product prices were also derived from the 20 

### LCC and payback period analysis. DOE also used AEO 21 

### 2014 to project future total housing stock and 22 

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### the product. DOE's shipment analysis includes two 2 

### components, that is base case shipments and the 3 

### standard case shipments. After developing base case 4 

### shipments, DOE also developed the standards case 5 

### shipments. In other words, the shipments projected 6 

### after a standard is adopted. 7 

### The standards case is projected using the same 8 

### data sources as the base case shipments projection. Beyond 9 

### that, the 10 

### standards case shipments account for purchase price 11 

### increases and operating cost savings due to standards 12 

### to estimate any shipments change to the base case 13 

### shipments projection. So the figure here shows the 14 

### total projected shipments under the base case by market 15 

### segment. 16 

### As we can see here, the replacement 17 

### shipments on average accounted for about 80% of 18 

### the total projected shipments as compared to the 19 

### first time owners during our analysis period. Here 20 

### is a comment box, DOE requests comment and 21 

### information related to historical shipments data and 22 

### market segment between residential users andThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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### commercial users. DOE also welcomes comments related 2 

### to standards case shipments projection. Any 3 

### questions, comments so far? 4 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Nothing here. 5 

### MS. CHUN NI: Okay then I will move on to 6 

### the National Impact Analysis. The purpose of the 7 

### National Impact Analysis is to determine the national 8 

### energy savings and national net present value over 30 9 

### years of the analysis period from 2019 to 2048. DOE 10 

### conducted the analysis by developing annual series 11 

### of national energy and economic impacts. 12 

### The analysis also used the shipments model 13 

### as described before. DOE then aggregated all the costs 14 

### and energy use in any given year and the reported 15 

### estimates for the economic impact as change in 16 

### consumer national net present value in constant year dollars. 17 18 

### DOE also used the discount rate to account 19 

### for the time value of money. This is a flow chart of 20 

### the National Impact Analysis. As you can see the 21 

### analysis relies on the LCC and the shipments model to 22 

### get all the numbers. It's basically taking all theThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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### numbers from the LCC and the shipments and those 2 

### numbers feed into the national impact analysis. 3 

### The outputs of the analysis are the national 4 

### energy savings and the national net present value. 5 

### The analysis period is 30 years as mentioned. However, 6 

### DOE did account for the national energy savings and 7 

### economic impacts for all of those shipments in 30 years, as 8 

### far as their lifespan last. Therefore, the 9 

### results go beyond the 2048. 10 

### The flow chart here explains 11 

### how the national energy savings analysis is 12 

### implemented. As we can see here, the shipments 13 

### analysis provides the base case annual energy 14 

### consumption and the standards case annual energy 15 

### consumption. The analysis period starts from 2019 and 16 

### goes through 30 years to 2048. The annual energy 17 

### consumptions are then summed together to provide a base 18 

### case cumulative energy use and a standards case 19 

### cumulative energy use. 20 

### These two values, excuse me, these values 21 

### are then converted from site to full fuel cycle energy by 22 

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### between the base case and the standards case then 2 

### provide us the national energy savings. The net 3 

### present value -- the net present value follows a 4 

### similar procedure. The inputs also come from the 5 

### shipments analysis which provides the base case and 6 

### the standards case projection. DOE then looked at 7 

### the energy cost, the repair cost and 8 

### equipment cost during the same analysis period. 9 

### The cumulative operating cost savings are 10 

### the differences between the base case and the 11 

### standards case, and the same for the cumulative total 12 

### equipment costs increase. Those values are then 13 

### discounted to the present value. The difference 14 

### between the cumulative operating cost savings and the 15 

### cumulative total equipment cost increase then provides 16 

### a net present value. Yes? 17 

### MR. BROOKMAN: Yes, please Stefano? 18 

### MR. VIT: I want to just underline that 19 

### for the savings that are reiterated here are based 20 

### on the worst 2% of the temperature that you have in the 21 

### cooling season. We are just repeating what we have 22 

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### MS. CHUN NI: Yes the results are 2 

### calculated based on the test procedure and 3 

### engineering data. Okay, the table here summarizes 4 

### the shipments-weighted base case efficiency 5 

### distribution in 2019. It was derived from the LCC and the 6 

### payback period analysis. 7 

### To project the base case efficiency trend, 8 

### DOE referenced the previous rulemaking for room air 9 

### conditioners. DOE assumed an annual increase in 10 

### efficiency of 0.25% during the analysis period. For the 11 

### standards case, DOE used a roll up scenario to roll up 12 

### inefficient equipment to meet the standard level. 13 

### The table here summarizes the inputs 14 

### that the DOE used for the national impact 15 

### analysis. These inputs have been discussed in 16 

### the previous slides so I will move on to the next 17 

### slide. 18 

### The table here summarizes the national 19 

### energy savings for each efficiency level or candidate 20 

### standard level by users and we can see the national 21 

### full fuel cycle energy savings for portable air 22 

### conditioners are between 0.6 quads and 1 quads. TheThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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### table here summarizes a consumer net present value by 2 

### discount rate. 3 

### The range of NPV at 3% discount rate is 4 

### between 4 billion and 6 billion. The range of NPV at 5 

### 7% discount rate is between 2 and 3 billion. Here is 6 

### a comment box. DOE requests comments on the approach 7 

### that the DOE took on the base case efficiency trend 8 

### and the standards case efficiency trend analysis. Any 9 

### questions, comments at this moment? 10 

### MR. BROOKMAN: I see no comments here. 11 

### MS. CHEN NI: Okay, then I will turn it 12 

### over to my colleague. 13 

### MS. DUNHAM: At this point in the 14 

### presentation we are going to talk about what's coming 15 

### down the road. So we presented a preliminary analysis, 16 

### and the next phase of the rulemaking is the NOPR 17 

### analysis. In the NOPR stage all of the categories of 18 

### analyses that you see on the far right of the screen 19 

### are incorporated into that overall standards 20 

### rulemaking. 21 

### Rather than look at things at just an 22 

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## Different product classes may have different 2 

## efficiency levels considered for a standard and that 3 

## would be called a trial standard level. Because 4 

## portable air conditioners have just the one product 5 

## class, it will be directly tied in with a particular 6 

## efficiency level. 7 

## You will see here some of the 8 

## considerations taken in when developing particular 9 

## trial standard level. We looked for the lowest 10 

## lifecycle costs and payback period of under three 11 

## years, among other issues, considerations. 12 

## This is a request for comment on the 13 

## criteria used to develop the trial standard level. 14 

## So I am going to step through quite 15 

## quickly the different analyses and just talk about 16 

## their purpose and mostly their purpose and a little 17 

## bit of their methodology. All of these analyses are 18 

## covered in the technical support document as a 19 

## preview, and then it will be covered in greater depth 20 

## in the NOPR down the road. 21 

## So in the LCC subgroup, in the consumer 22 

## subgroup analysis, we look specifically at senior-onlyThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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## and low-income households. DOE will rerun that 2 

## lifecycle cost model for those two groups and see how 3 

## the results there for those two specific consumer 4 

## groups compared with the total 5 

## population. So if people feel that DOE should look 6 

## at other consumer groups in addition to these two, or 7 

## instead of, please let us know by comment. 8 

## So in the emissions analysis, DOE looks at 9 

## emissions reductions from the proposed energy 10 

## conservation standard. This includes both the power 11 

## plant emissions and upstream emissions. In other 12 

## words, the full fuel cycle. We will produce results 13 

## using the time series of energy savings and employ 14 

## the Energy Information Administration's National 15 

## Energy Modeling System. 16 

## To monetize emissions we used the most 17 

## current social cost of carbon values that were 18 

## developed and are updated by the Interagency process 19 

## that is used in all of the DOE rules. Is there a 20 

## request for comment? 21 

## The utility impact analysis estimates the 22 

## changes in the electric installed capacity andThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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## generation resulting from the new standards. This is 2 

## the same method used in the emissions analysis that 3 

## is based on the time series of energy savings and 4 

## uses the NEMS model. 5 

## Comments are welcome. The employment 6 

## impact analysis is here. In this particular analysis, 7 

## we are looking at indirect employment impacts. The 8 

## Manufacturer Impact Analysis looks at direct impacts 9 

## for employment. This analysis uses ImSET, which 10 

## shows the net labor or market impacts resulting from 11 

## the standard. 12 

## And finally, the Regulatory Impact Analysis 13 

## addresses the potential for non-regulatory approaches 14 

## to supplant or augment energy conservation standards 15 

## in order to improve the energy efficiency or reduced 16 

## energy consumption of portable air conditioners 17 

## covered under this rulemaking. 18 

## MR. BROOKMAN: So as we had said when we 19 

## started the meeting this afternoon now is another 20 

## opportunity for comment. Many additional issues that 21 

## anybody wishes to bring to the table at this point, 22 

## issues that haven't been covered sufficiently duringThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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## the course of the meeting. Okay seeing nothing 2 

## additional at this point, Ron do you want to go over 3 

## this final slide? 4 

## MR. MAJETTE: In our correspondence, we 5 

## refer to this rulemaking by and make sure you 6 

## distinguish between the standard and the test 7 

## procedure. For the most part, our team will catch it 8 

## if you make a mistake and send it to the wrong 9 

## location but we may lose it. All jokes aside, just 10 

## make sure you correctly identify between a test 11 

## procedure and a standard. 12 

## Feel free to email any of us, either myself 13 

## or to John. We cannot directly answer any of your 14 

## questions because it wouldn't be fair to the rest of 15 

## the manufacturers, so any of your general questions 16 

## please email them to the Portable AC's email account 17 

## and then that way we can share among all the 18 

## entities. 19 

## I guess in closing the only other thing I 20 

## will say is thank you all for coming out. I 21 

## appreciate your comments. I appreciate everybody 22 

## that came from a short trip and a few from Italy thatThe Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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## made a short trip over here, as well as a few from 2 

## Alexandria who made the long trip over here. So 3 

## that's it. 4 

## MR. BROOKMAN: Okay and a reminder that 5 

## the comment period closes April 28th, 2015 and thanks 6 

## to everyone joining us via the web. Safe travels to 7 

## all, see you back here next time. 8 

## (Concluded at 2:45 p.m.) 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22The Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

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44:8 ,22 45:4,6,10 47:8 49:6,9 50:6 50:10,13 57:16 58:2 66:6 67:9,16 70:8 ,17 71:15 73:22 75:7 ,7 ,19 76:2,4,6,14,15 77:8 ,21 81:3 **database** 20:16 **DC** 1:7 **De'Longhi** 5:8 ,9 67:21 **December** 9:4,11 **decided** 44:2 **deciding** 9:21 14:17 **decisions** 10:17 71:5 **decrease** 65:7 **decreased** 64:4 **decreasing** 37:3 **defer** 26:7 **define** 35:20 **defined** 19:15 **defining** 14:15 **definition** 8:5 ,7 **degrees** 68:12,15 **dehumidifier** 8:10 **dehumidifiers** 24:12 **delivering** 8:11 **DeLonghi** 2:9,10,11 **DENSO** 3:5 **Department** 1:1 ,5 2:1 4:17 11:5 ,15 12:5 ,10,17 13:8 **dependence** 38:16 **depending** 66:7 **depends** 10:16 **depth** 83:19 **derived** 76:6,19 81:5 **describe** 34:1 42:7 **described** 78:13 **design** 25:11 ,14 28:11 30:12 34:11 34:13 35:17 36:3 36:15 40:16,20 49:19 52:7 **designed** 8:10 **desire** 11:4 29:16 **detail** 4:22 34:7 54:22 69:20 **detailed** 29:12 34:1 **details** 25:19 67:15 **determination** 7:22 8:19 14:2 17:7 ,12 60:5 61:16 62:5 66:4

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202-347-3700 Ace-Federal Reporters, Inc. 866-928-6509 Page 93 28:17 29:22 **Independence** 1:6 **independent** 42:15 **indicate** 33:7 **indicated** 53:4 **indicates** 41:14 **indirect** 85:7 **individual** 22:7 24:15 45:10,11 ,20 **individuals** 53:3 **induction** 34:22 **industry** 14:11 20:4 46:8 49:8 ,13 54:14,16,17 55:5 55:9 56:5 **inefficient** 81:12 **infiltration** 6:13 17:19 18:7 ,22 24:22 31:1 32:18 36:12,13 ,15 ,16,18 36:19 37:3 38:7 38:12,16 39:17 41:13 42:3 52:9 **inform** 56:17 **information** 12:12 15:18 20:1 29:5 29:20 30:2,8,9,16 32:9 33:7 38:17 47:1 51:5 55:2,4 55:10,15 56:21 58:2 59:13 60:17 60:18 61:9,9 64:6 66:5 70:9 73:3 ,11 77:21 84:14 **initial** 30:22 55:10 **inlet** 36:21 **input** 57:15 60:8 66:8 **inputs** 54:20 55:10 58:17 62:7 65:12 66:1 ,9,10 75:4,17 80:4 81:13 ,15 **install** 27:7 **installation** 15:15 66:2,4,6,19 **installations** 61:7 **installed** 58:15 ,17 64:21 65:7 66:1 84:22 **instances** 60:3 **insulated** 27:18 ,21 **insulation** 27:17 **intended** 47:11 **intention** 68:7 ,8,19 68:21 **Interagency** 84:18 **interested** 34:10 56:22 **interesting** 42:20 **internal** 23:14,19 **internally** 9:21 **interpretation** 68:3 **interrelated** 19:13 **interview** 55:12 **interviews** 12:13 54:19 55:14,15 ,19 56:15 ,16 57:21 **introduce** 13:6,15 **investigate** 22:1 67:7 **investigation** 55:8 **invite** 25:13 **issue** 12:10 18:21 25:10 **issues** 19:17 27:11 35:18 54:21 55:7 56:21 58:1 83:11 85:20,22 **Italy** 86:22 **J Jennifer**  2:21 9:7 ,8 10:3 ,9,21 16:21 16:22 21:5 ,6 25:17 57:5 ,6 67:2 67:3 69:3 ,19,21 **Jim** 2:18 31:10 34:18 42:22 44:16 48:4 52:10 61:17 61:18 63:18 **Joanna** 3:6 17:4,10 30:21 40:1 ,2 46:14 47:13 48:12 48:18 49:11 ,21 **John** 2:6 3:4 21:17 25:22 26:2 47:19 63:4 67:18 ,19 69:4 74:4 86:13 **join** 4:14 **joined** 4:9 **joining** 87:6 **jokes** 86:9 **Judith** 2:15 13:18 **Judy** 11:8 13:15 35:18 43:11 46:3 52:21 62:14 **July** 7:22 8:19 **jump** 50:9 51:14 **jumps** 44:11 45:7 **K keep**  50:17 **key** 6:15 25:10 56:21 58:1 69:13 **kilowatts** 7:20 **kind** 11:20 17:18 25:12,13 38:10 41:14 43:1 ,10,18 45:21 47:4 **kit** 30:7 **know** 8:2 9:15 10:10 10:15 11:2,5 ,17 12:1 13:21 18:1 22:16,20 23:6 26:5 ,5 28:9 42:9 43:3 ,6 44:3 ,6 45:13 ,14 47:6 57:18 60:10 61:22 63:5 ,7 68:9 84:7 **knows** 11:8 **L L**  2:12 **lab** 22:19,20 **labor** 34:4 85:10 **Laboratory** 2:19,20 58:8 **lack** 6:7 12:15 61:9 **lacking** 70:9 **landscape** 14:12 20:4 **large** 20:8 35:22 57:18 **larger** 18:4,19 27:15 62:16 **latent** 23:5 **Lawrence** 2:19,20 58:7 **laying** 12:21 **layout** 53:13 **lays** 14:8 **LBNL** 73:14 74:19 **LCC** 58:12 64:17 65:1 ,9,17 70:20 71:1 ,1 ,3 76:7 ,20 78:21 79:1 81:5 83:21 **leading** 11:5 13:19 **leads** 28:19 **leave** 53:10 **Lee** 3:5 **left** 39:12 50:7 54:2 **left-hand** 60:8 **Len** 62:8 ,10 **Len's** 63:20 **lessen** 56:4 **let's** 4:3 7:2 21:5 50:17 53:5 ,20 54:2

**level** 5:14 28:17 36:14,17 ,18 37:11 37:12,12,13 39:19 40:6,8,21 41:12 41:21 42:2,5 49:1 49:15 51:15 56:7 59:19 60:15 61:11 64:19,22 65:2 66:7 ,18 71:7 ,10 72:8 ,9,11 73:6,6 73:18 ,19,21 81:12 81:19,20 82:22 83:3 ,6,9,13 **levels** 16:20 19:1 30:1 35:20 36:2,5 36:8 ,9 37:1 39:9 42:14 44:15 45:7 46:9,21 48:1 51:2 51:7 ,9 54:18 61:12,15 64:5 ,19 67:1 71:13 72:17 83:2 **life** 64:13 **Life-Cycle** 64:10 **lifecycle** 58:10,14 65:2,3 71:21 72:1 72:3 ,15 76:13 83:10 84:2 **lifespan** 79:8 **lifetime** 58:15 60:9 64:18 ,22 65:5 66:10,12 69:22 70:4,5 ,10 76:12 **light** 6:7 **limitations** 29:15 **line** 12:6 39:19 45:1 **linear** 42:10 43:8 44:2,11 ,13 45:5 46:5 ,11 **lines** 45:3 **linger** 53:18 **list** 20:9 **listed** 13:1 24:18 **literature** 15:13 **little** 13:10,10 23:9 24:20 40:13 62:19 69:16 83:16 **lively** 5:2 **LLC** 64:11 **LLP** 3:4 **location** 86:9 **locations** 15:15 **long** 87:2 **look** 5:2 21:20,22 22:3 28:20 44:19 45:11 52:11 64:11

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202-347-3700 Ace-Federal Reporters, Inc. 866-928-6509 Page 94 30:9,11 ,12 31:5 33:13 ,15 ,22 40:17 46:22 54:9,19 55:13 ,14,20,22 56:3 ,9,13 57:1 ,7 57:14 58:3 59:6 86:15 **manufacturing** 29:13 54:13 55:17 **March** 1:13 4:11 8:22 **Mark** 37:9 **market** 5:15 13:2 13:16 14:6,7 19:9 20:1 ,10,13 22:8 27:20 29:3 33:14 35:11 36:1 43:21 45:19,21 47:18 55:3 ,4 57:17 67:13 71:15 72:5 72:8 73:4 76:4,5 77:14,22 85:10 **marketplace** 43:22 **markup** 58:18 59:7 59:8 ,10,11 60:5 **markups** 58:22 59:2 59:14,15 ,15 ,17 ,18 59:20 60:2 66:4 **Martin** 2:12 **material** 34:1 ,3 **materials** 34:6 **Mauer** 3:6 17:4,5 17:10 40:2,2 46:15 47:13 ,22 48:12,18 49:11 ,21 50:14 **max** 39:19 41:12 43:16 49:15 50:11 51:15 **maximum** 37:11 48:21 49:14,20 50:1 **mean** 47:15 69:6 72:6 **meaningful** 12:8 **means** 8:16 23:11 36:11 40:18 53:5 66:5 **measured** 16:12,15 34:12 **meet** 46:20 81:12 **meeting** 1:1 ,2 2:1 4:4,6,7 ,9 6:20 8:22 9:9 13:9,9 53:22 85:19 86:1 **meets** 47:6 **Melissa** 3:3

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**multiple** 82:22 **multipliers** 58:22 79:22 **multiply** 61:1 **N N**  37:9 **Nadav** 2:16 **name** 4:12 58:6 74:18 **nation** 28:20 **national** 2:19,20 58:7 ,11 74:20 75:5 78:6,7 ,7 ,8,11 78:16,20 79:2,3 ,4 79:6,11 80:2 81:14,18,20 84:14 **Natural** 75:21 **nature's** 25:11 **Navigant** 2:14,15 2:16,17 12:13 13:15 26:11 54:5 56:13 57:10 **necessarily** 11:13 30:18 57:12 67:14 **necessary** 7:18 27:8 **need** 10:18 11:16 12:5 ,6 22:20,20 53:8 ,8,13 58:20 67:6 69:18 70:5 70:15 73:3 **needed** 64:14 **needs** 6:20 60:10 **negative** 31:20 38:7 46:17 ,19 47:3 ,5 ,8 47:9,14 48:3 **negatively** 56:5 65:14 **NEMS** 85:4 **net** 32:3 ,8 47:11 50:8 ,9 54:17 71:1 78:8 ,16 79:4 80:2 80:3 ,16 82:1 85:10 **new** 11:17 20:19 25:11 85:1 **Ni** 2:20 58:12 73:12 73:14,14,21 74:17 74:18 ,19 78:5 81:1 82:11 **NIA** 58:13 **nice** 44:18 **Nicole** 2:14 54:3 ,4 **noise** 15:19 56:7 **nominal** 61:19 **non-energy** 70:21

**non-regulatory** 85:13 **NOPR** 8:18 10:6,10 10:14,20 11:3 12:14 56:14 82:16 82:17 83:20 **North** 2:12 **note** 41:9 71:22 **noted** 35:18 **notes** 71:2 **notice** 7:21 8:6,18 9:2 **NPV** 82:3 ,4 **number** 14:16 18:15 20:8 33:14 35:22 36:7 42:9 43:10 69:11 **numbers** 45:18 78:22 79:1 ,2 **numerical** 29:18 **O observation**  33:13 46:15 48:3 **observations** 68:16 **observe** 6:2 **observed** 16:13 **obsolete** 20:17 **obtained** 55:15 **Obviously** 10:16 **OceanAire** 62:11 **odd** 47:4 **OEM's** 20:6 **offered** 5:15 **office** 63:12 **oh** 49:6 **ok** 71:19 **okay** 4:3 6:22 7:2,9 9:14 10:20 12:20 13:1 19:21 25:22 26:18 28:9 35:18 35:19 48:17 50:14 53:17 ,20 57:22 58:5 62:6 63:1 64:9 69:21 72:20 74:6,7 ,15 78:5 81:3 82:11 86:1 87:4 **OMB's** 79:22 **once** 32:9 **ones** 33:17 50:7 ,12 **online** 71:15 **open** 5:4 **opening** 5:5 7:1 67:20 68:3 **operating** 34:13 ,14

58:16 60:9 61:2,8 64:22 65:5 ,8 66:9 66:11 ,12 68:6,10 68:16 70:4,4 76:22 77:11 80:9 80:14 **operations** 70:22 **opportunity** 56:17 70:3 ,18 85:20 **opposed** 11:18 **opposite** 68:21 **optimization** 24:21 51:10 **optimizations** 32:17 **optional** 30:6 **options** 24:6 25:21 26:22 27:3 ,16 28:11 33:1 34:11 34:13 35:17 36:3 40:20 **order** 11:14 12:4,7 36:5 54:21 55:4 56:14 85:15 **ordering** 46:18 48:14 **organizing** 41:18 **ought** 45:15 **outdoor** 42:19,21 **Outlook** 66:16 **outputs** 79:3 **outside** 23:16 36:20 **overall** 7:6 34:9 44:13 45:19,21 67:4 82:19 **overdue** 52:22 **overhead** 34:5 **overseas** 20:6 **overview** 7:9 **owners** 75:10,14 76:16 77:19 **P p.m**  1:14 87:8 **PAC-1** 21:19 **packaged** 8:9 **packet** 7:3 ,3 **page** 23:2 63:22 **pan** 23:18 **parameters** 16:14 26:12 **paramont** 25:14 **part** 13:20 17:11 32:4 58:9 86:7 **participate** 4:8 57:8 57:9The Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

202-347-3700 Ace-Federal Reporters, Inc. 866-928-6509 Page 95 **participation** 5:2 56:15 **particular** 15:21 16:9 32:8 49:16 72:10 83:5 ,8 85:6 **particularly** 11:17 **parties** 56:22 **parts** 34:4 **patterns** 67:12 **payback** 58:10 64:11 ,13 65:6 71:22 72:4 76:13 76:20 81:6 83:10 **payroll** 59:18 **penetration** 67:13 73:7 ,18,20 **people** 28:5 68:13 68:14 84:5 **percentages** 65:13 **performance** 6:19 15:20 30:19 **performance-rela ...**  14:20 **performed** 30:22 **period** 8:22 58:10 64:11 ,13 65:6 72:4 75:2 76:13 76:20 77:19 78:9 79:5 ,15 80:8 81:6 81:10 83:10 87:5 **periods** 71:22 **permanent** 35:3 **permit** 58:22 **perspective** 17:2 **phase** 8:12 55:1 ,6,8 55:10,14 56:14 82:16 **phases** 55:1 **photo** 53:8 **pick** 54:2 **picture** 57:17 **piece** 24:4 64:15 **place** 57:21 63:7 **placing** 67:10 **plan** 10:12,13 **plant** 84:11 **please** 25:16 28:8 31:14 44:10 53:6 62:9,9 80:17 84:7 86:16 **plot** 39:5 40:4 41:6 45:2,3 48:20 50:6 **plots** 40:12 **plotted** 48:13 **podium** 74:16 **point** 5:4 14:15 21:8 27:14 33:11 38:15 39:12 41:17 ,21 42:1 43:12 44:10 45:21 46:5 60:5 61:16 62:19 69:4 82:13 85:21 86:2 **points** 5:11 29:17 29:19 32:10 36:7 39:8 ,13 41:20,22 42:7 43:12,14,16 43:17 44:22 45:4 45:6 47:8 49:6,9 50:7 ,10 68:12 76:4 **Policy** 7:10 **population** 84:5 **portability** 27:14 37:21 **portable** 1:2 4:5 5:10 6:19 8:3 ,7 ,10 14:1 ,3 ,22 16:1 ,6 20:5 23:2 28:22 30:5 35:12 37:10 47:11 55:21 56:3 56:11 59:4 60:10 60:19 62:22 63:10 63:15 64:16 67:10 67:22 68:19,22 70:1 ,5 71:16 74:20 75:1 ,8,19 81:21 83:4 85:16 86:16 **portables** 62:17 **portal** 53:9 **portion** 4:6 24:4 **portrait** 14:11 **positive** 32:10 72:1 **possibility** 16:18 **possible** 40:20 54:18 60:11 67:16 **potential** 13:22 14:21 32:14 38:11 40:20 43:14 49:18 49:19 55:21 57:1 74:12 85:13 **potentially** 51:11 **pounds** 26:14 **power** 41:4,7 42:8 44:17 46:13 48:11 60:16 61:11 84:10 **powered** 8:12 **practicable** 27:6 **Prager** 2:11 **preceding** 45:9 **preferably** 17:6 **preliminary** 4:21 5:11 8:20,21 11:6 13:21 17:7 54:5 55:9,19 71:20 82:15 **premise** 68:22 **prepares** 55:12 **presence** 60:19 **present** 11:19 22:5 54:17 70:16 78:8 78:16 79:4 80:3 ,3 80:13 ,16 82:1 **presentation** 82:14 **presented** 4:22 44:22 82:15 **presenting** 54:5 **presents** 51:4 **press** 53:4 **pressure** 25:4 **presumably** 9:15 46:21 **pretty** 14:8 16:4 26:3 ,11 45:13 59:5 **preview** 83:19 **previous** 41:6 45:3 76:2 81:8 ,16 **previously** 32:17 **price** 56:1 58:21 59:16 64:15 66:2 66:3 ,13 77:10 **priced** 52:3 **prices** 55:22 66:14 76:19 **prior** 59:16 **probability** 65:10 70:7 **probably** 53:8 ,21 63:9 **problem** 21:21 22:3 **procedure** 7:9 8:6 9:9,10,16,19,22 10:5 ,11 ,14,20 11:1 ,12,22 12:10 12:19 15:5 16:12 17:14 20:21 21:14 22:10,13 ,16 24:2 29:8 31:16 33:9 34:12 46:22 57:11 57:20 80:4 81:2 86:7 ,11 **procedures** 4:7 6:11 8:3 12:3 19:16 21:11 30:20 34:16 **proceed** 7:2 19:20 26:19 **proceeded** 33:8 **process** 33:20 50:21 84:18 **produce** 7:16 20:21 47:2,14 56:12 84:12 **produces** 64:12 **producing** 48:11 **product** 8:8 11:17 11:21 12:5 14:16 15:1 ,12 16:2,8,16 17:5 ,13 23:3 25:11 ,12 27:10,20 28:2 31:9 33:19 34:9 39:13 40:16 41:16 47:15 56:6 64:13 66:2,3 70:8 72:16,17 76:17 ,19 77:1 82:22 83:1 ,4 **production** 28:16 33:21 50:22 **products** 3:5 5:15 5:20 6:3 ,8 7:13 ,15 7:15 ,16 11:18 14:3 ,10,17 15:13 19:8 20:7 ,11 ,13 20:22 21:4,14 22:12 29:1 ,3 ,7 ,14 31:4,8 32:2,7 33:14 34:2 36:1 40:15 41:10 49:16 56:12 60:13 67:12 69:5 ,12 71:8 73:16 **profile** 55:5 **progress** 22:15 **project** 3:7 4:18 13:5 76:21 81:7 **projected** 9:11 77:5 77:7 ,14,18 **projecting** 9:2,5 **projection** 77:8 ,13 78:2 80:6 **proposal** 31:16 40:9 **proposed** 8:7 9:3 ,18 9:20 11:13 12:7 16:12 17:14 20:20 21:12 29:8 30:20 33:9 84:9 **proposing** 16:16 **prospect** 25:13 **prospective** 65:14 71:9 **prototypes** 5:16,21 6:9 27:19 **proves** 42:19 **provide** 11:7 ,10,14 11:15 12:12 17:3 21:10 23:17 ,18 25:19 32:7 38:18 38:21 47:11 56:16 57:15 67:14 69:20 79:17 80:2 **provided** 30:9 42:11 47:21 **provides** 46:6 79:13 80:5 ,15 **providing** 23:18 32:2 **provisions** 8:2 **PSC** 35:2 **public** 1:1 2:3 4:4 4:13 8:6 **publically** 70:16 **publication** 10:14 **publish** 10:12,13 **published** 7:22 8:18 8:19,20 9:11 12:14 **pump** 23:19 **pumped** 24:3 **purchase** 56:2 64:15 71:5 ,8 76:17 77:10 **purchased** 65:4 71:7 ,14 75:9,10 **purpose** 7:18 23:4 28:10 47:11 54:6 64:17 74:22 78:6 83:16,16 **purposes** 20:19 32:1 75:10 **pursue** 33:16 **put** 25:5 **Q quadrant**  48:8 **quads** 81:22,22 **qualitative** 54:21 **qualitatively** 55:16 **quantify** 44:11 ,14 45:6 **question** 9:17 26:8 48:19 63:20 69:22 70:11 ,13 71:17 **questions** 9:6 12:22 18:16 19:19 25:7 28:6 30:22 31:15 39:4 46:16 51:18 66:20 78:3 82:9 86:14,15 **quick** 22:22 69:18 **quickly** 83:15The Portable Air Conditioners Standards Meeting March 18, 2015

202-347-3700 Ace-Federal Reporters, Inc. 866-928-6509 Page 96 **quite** 41:14 83:14 **R R**  43:1 ,8 **R.S** 66:5 **raised** 27:12 67:21 **range** 16:15 19:8 20:22 26:4,11 29:4,6 30:11 36:2 40:6 43:17 ,21 46:18 47:9 48:3 48:22 49:5 52:14 62:13 ,14 75:6 82:3 ,4 **ranges** 18:9 35:11 **rate** 70:15 ,20 71:2,4 78:18 82:2,3 ,5 **rated** 30:8 ,17 47:15 **rates** 66:12 **rating** 35:8 **ratio** 31:6 41:2 **re-applied** 23:15 **reality** 21:10 **really** 11:4,7 ,7 12:4 18:6,16 20:19 21:8 22:20 25:11 25:12 27:22 42:20 44:7 48:6 57:8 67:10 70:2 **reason** 11:10 16:16 31:7 40:13 49:22 **reasonable** 5:9 **reasons** 33:6 **receive** 58:19 60:14 **recollection** 26:3 68:1 **reconvened** 54:1 **record** 13:4 53:19 57:7 **recover** 64:14 **RECS** 60:17 64:20 65:19 67:6 **reduce** 65:17 **reduced** 27:22 39:18 85:15 **reducing** 17:19 24:21 41:13 **reduction** 18:22 32:18 **reductions** 84:9 **refer** 86:5 **reference** 40:9 **referenced** 81:8 **referring** 16:11 74:5 **refine** 55:16 **reflect** 45:19 59:2 **reflected** 25:15

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