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FLEXIPRIN RADIO SHOW BETWEEN CHARLIE FUSCO AND 

DR. RONALD JAHNER
 

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P R O C E E D I N G S 

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FLEXIPRIN RADIO SHOW WITH CHARLIE FUSCO AND 

DR. RONALD JAHNER 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Thank you for joining me on 

this week’s broadcast. I’m your host, Charlie Fusco. 

Very, very exciting guest that we have here today, Dr. 

Ronald Jahner. And you’re going to want to tune in not 

just to the first part of this interview, but stay the 

entire way through because he’s got an incredible story 

to tell you today; a story of personal tragedy and 

something that has actually inspired his life over the 

last 30 years. 

We’re going to be talking about pain today. 

We’re going to be talking about pain from fibromyalgia, 

from cardiovascular issues, joint pain, all types of pain 

and inflammation symptoms, what Dr. Jahner has been able 

to learn about it over the last 30 years because of his 

personal story. 

So, without further ado, let me welcome our 

very special guest, Dr. Ronald Jahner. 

DR. JAHNER: Thank you, Charlie. And please 

call me Dr. Ron. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Absolutely. Now, before we 

get into the main point of our conversation today, which 

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is pain and how it’s affecting millions and millions of 

people in the U.S., I do want to touch on your collection 

for a moment. I was sent your resume, your doctor’s 

resume, the CV. It’s six pages of letters behind your 

name. You have been in school forever. You have a 

degree for everything health-related. 

DR. JAHNER: I actually have more hours of 

post-graduate training and education and teaching than 

most doctors spend in medical school. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: You are not only a 

naturopathic physician, you have certifications in 

acupuncture, in natural therapy, in clinical nutrition, 

applied kinesiology, mental health, Oriental health. It 

goes on and on. You’re trained in pharmacology, in 

homeopathy, in botanical medicine. 

What does a doctor with all of these degrees do 

with all this information? 

DR. JAHNER: Well, I kind of have to tell you 

the story to explain that. Over 30 years ago, about 35 

years ago now, my father was diagnosed with terminal bone 

cancer. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Oh. 

DR. JAHNER: It metastasized from his prostate. 

By the time they discovered it, they thought he just had 

back pain from an injury at work. 

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body is trying to protect that damage that’s been done by 

inflammation. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Mm-hmm. 

DR. JAHNER: If you don’t address the 

inflammation, you’ll never address cardiovascular 

disease. And cholesterol is not the -- is not the 

answer. Remember, inflammation is a normal, natural body 

process to help us deal with the effects of stress. And, 

so, the inflammation is the problem, not because it’s a 

bad thing but because it gets out of control. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Mm-hmm. 

DR. JAHNER: We overload the system with so 

much toxicity, so many free radicals, so much stress, so 

much lack of sleep and rest and healing time --

CHARLIE FUSCO: Mm-hmm. 

DR. JAHNER: -- that the inflammation just goes 

crazy trying to take care of everything at once. And it 

can’t do it. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Okay. I want to talk about a 

formula that I know you’ve done some research on called 

FlexiPrin. And it’s right out in breaking news. It has 

used the top five clinically tested ingredients for 

stopping inflammation and, as a result, pain. 

The reason it’s so hot out in the news is 

because the manufacturers are guaranteeing people that 

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they’re going to get out of pain in as little as two 

hours, because these five ingredients are so powerful. 

DR. JAHNER: It’s amazing. And I’m really 

excited about it. The more I look at it, the more I use 

it, the more I realize this could be the answer for a lot 

of people, and not just people with joint pain, people 

with cardiovascular inflammation and systemic 

inflammation from bronchitis and all other types of 

illnesses. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Good point. There are five 

ingredients in there, but the one that the manufacturer 

stands behind when they make this incredible “I’m going 

to get you out of pain in two hours” claim is the same 

ingredient in beer, which if you drink enough beer it 

gets you out of pain and inflammation. 

DR. JAHNER: Yeah. I actually did the clinical 

research on this, and I drank 150 bottles of Guinness to 

see if I could get the same effect as two capsules of 

FlexiPrin. And I wasn’t awake to get the answers. So, I 

don’t know. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: So, that’s not the right way 

to go. 

DR. JAHNER: No, that doesn’t work. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Hops really is the secret to 

this getting out of pain so quickly? That’s what 

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scientists have boiled down 5,000 years of research down 

to, hops? 

DR. JAHNER: Absolutely. And -- but a good 

bottle of beer will have about three milligrams of the 

active ingredient. That’s not enough to really do it. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Mm-hmm. 

DR. JAHNER: A couple of pills or capsules of 

FlexiPrin has 150 milligrams. So, that really works a 

lot better. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Very targeting --

DR. JAHNER: It targets the tissue and it’s an 

amazing anti-inflammatory. But the best part is --

CHARLIE FUSCO: Mm-hmm. 

DR. JAHNER: -- it works fast. Within two 

hours, people are getting relief. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: And, of course, it works 

without the alcohol, the calories and the side effects of 

being tipsy. 

DR. JAHNER: Oh, well, I suppose. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: If somebody is taking these 

Cox-2 inhibitors for inflammation in the body, for pain 

in the body --

DR. JAHNER: Mm-hmm. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: -- the hops is kind of like 

the natural version of this. 

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DR. JAHNER: Yes. It works in much the same 

way. However, it does it without the GI distress, 

without the potential for bleeding --

CHARLIE FUSCO: Mm-hmm. 

DR. JAHNER: -- and -- oh, the potential for 

death that you have with Cox-2 inhibitors. You can take 

two to four capsules a day, depending on where you’re at 

with your condition, and get amazing results. And most 

people actually experience relief in the first two hours 

to two days. Those clinical studies I mentioned showed 

that 80 percent of the participants were able to reduce 

or eliminate their pain medications. Now, that’s 

absolutely incredible. You don’t see medical studies 

with those kind of results. 

And, in fact, in that same four-week period, 

one month, 100 percent of the participants were able to 

perform their daily tasks better, reported less stiffness 

in the morning. Again, that’s unheard of in any medical 

study. You just don’t see those kind of results. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Certainly not from --

DR. JAHNER: So, we’re working with something 

that is a natural component, natural food, natural 

product, that the body recognizes and uses very 

efficiently, no matter who you are. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: First off, the number to call, 

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1-800-851-0416. That’s 1-800-851-0416. The manufacturer 

is willing to send you out a free supply of FlexiPrin. 

They’re also willing to let you try it risk-free for a 

full 90 days. So, you get the short term benefit and the 

long-term benefit. And call them today because they’re 

also including a free book with the free bonus bottle. 

And they’re going to ship it all out to you right away. 

Your satisfaction is guaranteed. And they’re 

also throwing in a free gift today, a free bottle of Goji 

Melts. And that’s that super detoxifying, energizing 

antioxidant formula. They’re giving that away free, 

which is fantastic for any condition you have in the body 

because it attacks those free radicals. Again, the 

number 1-800-851-0416. That’s 1-800-851-0416. Again, 1-

800-851-0416. 

And, again, Doctor, what if I do have 

deteriorated joints and I’m trying to get out of longterm pain. What’s in FlexiPrin that helps? 

DR. JAHNER: Good point, Charlie. What’s in 

FlexiPrin is a product called Cynatine, which is a New 

Zealand keratin protein. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Mm-hmm. 

DR. JAHNER: The difference between it and 

glucosamine chondroitin is that it helps rebuild the 

mobility in the joints. It provides the key building 

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blocks for joint repair, reduces inflammation, which 

we’ve already talked about, and it also is a very 

powerful antioxidant. 

But here’s the key. It’s very pure. It’s very 

easily absorbed into the system and allows the body to 

rebuild tissue in a much more efficient manner than 

anyone ever saw with glucosamine and chondroitin. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: I just read that the studies 

coming out are kind of basically saying glucosamine and 

chondroitin don’t work the way we’ve been told. 

DR. JAHNER: It’s absolutely true. But for 

most people, they have nowhere else to go. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Mm-hmm. 

DR. JAHNER: The pharmaceutical agents use for 

the pain the NSAIDs and so forth. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Right. 

DR. JAHNER: Cox-2 inhibitors are all extremely 

dangerous, and many of them are being taken off the 

market now because of that. And glucosamine and 

chondroitin were what we had. 

The issue with those two, although they do work 

in certain instances, they normally require at least two 

to three months and, in some cases, a year to 18 months 

to work --

CHARLIE FUSCO: Mm-hmm. 

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for quite a while. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Uh-huh. 

DR. JAHNER: It’s an herb called Boswellia. It 

comes from a tree in India. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Okay. 

DR. JAHNER: And, in fact, if you remember in 

the Bible talking about frankincense and myrrh, well, 

frankincense comes from the Boswellia tree. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Really? Never knew that. 

DR. JAHNER: All right. That’s true. And, so, 

it has an active ingredient in it, which is a beta-acid, 

AKBA --

CHARLIE FUSCO: Mm-hmm. 

DR. JAHNER: -- and it actually is one of the 

strongest joint supporters in anti-inflammatories that we 

know of. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Mm-hmm. 

DR. JAHNER: And, so, by adding the Boswellia 

in, we get long-term anti-inflammatory effects. However, 

in FlexiPrin, the Boswellia is standardized to 10 percent 

AKBA levels, which is incredibly high, and that’s why we 

get results when others don’t, even when they claim they 

have that same -- same ingredient in their product. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Now, we’re talking about a 

supplement that has this wonderful hops extract with the 

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clinical studies that says, hey, you’re going to be out 

of pain in two hours, proven clinically. You’ve got the 

replacement for the joint rebuilding, the replacement for 

glucosamine and chondroitin. There’s another supplement 

you can throw out. And, now, you’ve got the Boswellia, 

which I know a lot of people take individually for 

inflammation. 

DR. JAHNER: Right. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Now, it’s in there and it’s at 

the highest levels. And, again, you can take this for 

joint pain. What other inflammation conditions would 

people benefit from if they were taking this formula? 

DR. JAHNER: Inflammation is the body’s natural 

response to tissue degradation and excess waste material 

in the tissue and actually, more accurately, in between 

the tissue, in between the cells. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Okay. 

DR. JAHNER: And, so, tell me one condition, 

especially a chronic condition, that does not involve 

tissue degradation, that does not involve tissue 

degeneration, that does not involve excess free radicals, 

excess waste materials from pollution, et cetera, et 

cetera. 

So, actually, things like fibromyalgia, 

neurological dysfunctions, respiratory issues, let’s see, 

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here because it isn’t really what we would have thought 

about, but there’s a product -- an ingredient called 

FruiteX-B. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Okay. 

DR. JAHNER: And the clinical studies done on 

that, I mean, is pretty amazing because in a 60-day 

period --

CHARLIE FUSCO: Mm-hmm. 

DR. JAHNER: -- it actually helped increase 

vitamin D levels. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Wow. 

DR. JAHNER: Now, everybody has heard about 

vitamin D. But people taking this ingredient, their 

vitamin D levels went up 24 percent, even if they weren’t 

taking a vitamin D supplement. Now, that’s pretty 

interesting, because --

CHARLIE FUSCO: Well, vitamin D is the hot 

ingredient out there right now. 

DR. JAHNER: Exactly. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Everyone is taking it. If 

you’re listening and you are suffering from any type of 

inflammation in the body, whether it’s from a chronic 

condition like diabetes, cardiovascular problems, 

rheumatoid arthritis, or maybe you’re suffering from 

worn-out joints, FlexiPrin is the newest thing out there 

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CHARLIE FUSCO: Mm-hmm. 

DR. JAHNER: This is not a pain killer product. 

Yes, it will relieve your pain. But it’s about helping 

your body heal. And that’s why all of these amazing 

ingredients are here, not just because they control pain, 

but because they actually help the body’s internal repair 

processes. And that’s what I’m interested in as a 

physician. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: Folks, if you’re just joining 

us, we’re talking to Dr. Ronald JAHNER, and he’s a 

naturopathic physician. He has certificates in 

everything from acupuncture to pharmacology, homeopathy, 

botanical medicine, acupuncture, and he has been 

engrossed in the field of natural medicine and natural 

modalities for over 30 years due to your own personal, 

you know, heartache and sort of your desperate need to 

bring pain relief to your father. 

DR. JAHNER: Yep. That’s true. I can honestly 

say that neither my father nor I would be here today if 

it wasn’t for what we learned about these things. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: So, I’m curious. Your father 

was sent home to die, because back then it was morphine 

or nothing. 

DR. JAHNER: Exactly. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: You guys said, no, we’re not 

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that’s 1-800-851-0416, we’re going to send you a free 

supply of FlexiPrin, and with no risk to you, and it’s 

going to get you out of pain in two hours or you’re not 

going to pay for it. I mean that’s a big claim. And 

their phone lines could be flooded with people going, 

fine, I’ll take you up, give me my free supply. If it 

doesn’t work, the company is going to go out of business. 

But the doctor’s offices are the same. If you --

DR. JAHNER: Exactly. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: -- go, you know, to your 

office, you don’t want to go out of business. So .... 

DR. JAHNER: So, with FlexiPrin, you get the 

results and you get them clinically. And that’s why --

yes, we want to read the research because it points us in 

the right direction and it gives us the rationale. But 

the bottom line as a clinician is, you want to know does 

it really work in the real world. And FlexiPrin does. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: And there’s really five 

ingredients that you’ve talked about today, Doctor. We 

started out with the one I think is great, the hops. 

Right? And --

DR. JAHNER: You bet. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: -- that’s the immediate -- you 

know, that’s where people are seen and feeling the pain 

-- the pain relief, I should say. Then you talked about 

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You need more collagen to have healthy-looking skin. But 

it’s also, of course, very important for repairing the 

joints. And, so, you get that also with the FlexiPrin. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: For people just joining us, 

explain to me the FlexiPrin experience from somebody 

suffering with joint pain. 

DR. JAHNER: Well, you’re going to get an 

immediate effect. In almost every case, within two hours 

to two days, you’re going to get relief from the acute 

pain. Then it’s going to begin the process of 

controlling long-term inflammation, which helps prevent 

further deterioration. Then you get the ingredients that 

the body uses to actually rebuild not only the joint, but 

the bone and also the synovial fluid. So, you’ve got the 

whole complex covered there. 

And for you girls out there, realize that more 

women die of osteoporosis and the resulting fractures in 

old age than of all the cancers and heart disease 

combined. This is a serious issue that more people need 

to know about. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: If your body is not constantly 

struggling to fight off inflammation, can they see 

improvements in other areas? 

DR. JAHNER: Absolutely. And for two 

reasons -- there’s lots of reasons, but the two that jump 

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enjoyed it. Thank you. 

CHARLIE FUSCO: We’ll talk to you soon. 

Again, call them today. That’s all the time we have. 

And I want you to stay healthy and tune in next week for 

more cutting edge health and wellness news. Thanks for 

listening, everyone. 

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C E R T I F I C A T I O N O F T Y P I S T 

MATTER NUMBER: 1523024 

CASE TITLE: XXL IMPRESSIONS, LCC 

TAPING DATE: APRIL 20, 2014 

TRANSCRIPTION DATE: NOVEMBER 13, 2014 

REVISION DATE: FEBRUARY 26, 2016 

I HEREBY CERTIFY that the transcript contained 

herein is a full and accurate transcript of the tapes 

transcribed by me on the above cause before the FEDERAL 

TRADE COMMISSION to the best of my knowledge and belief. 

DATED: FEBRUARY 26, 2016 

GEORGE QUADE 

C E R T I F I C A T I O N O F P R O O F R E A D E R 

I HEREBY CERTIFY that I proofread the transcript for 

accuracy in spelling, hyphenation, punctuation and 

format. 

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