In the

Court of Appeals

Second Appellate District of Texas

at Fort Worth ___________________________

No. 02-22-00039-CR

___________________________

On Appeal from the 297th District Court

Tarrant County, Texas

Trial Court No. 1552246D

Before Sudderth, C.J.; Kerr and Walker, JJ.

Memorandum Opinion by Justice Kerr

AARON ROJAS JR., Appellant

V. 

THE STATE OF TEXAS
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MEMORANDUM OPINION

Aaron Rojas Jr. appeals from his convictions for continuous sexual abuse of a

young child, aggravated sexual assault of a child, prohibited sexual conduct, and two 

counts of sexual assault of a child. A jury convicted Rojas and assessed his

punishment, and the trial court sentenced him according to the jury’s verdicts. Rojas 

appeals from his convictions and raises five points: (1) the trial court erred by giving 

an oral jury instruction “that conveyed the [trial] court’s opinion and directed the jury 

toward a finding of guilt”; (2) the trial court abused its discretion by admitting the 

forensic interviewer’s expert opinions regarding the truth and veracity of this case’s

victim and an extraneous-offense victim; (3) the trial court abused its discretion by 

admitting hearsay from the forensic interviews of those victims; (4) the trial court

abused its discretion by admitting extraneous-offense evidence in violation of Texas 

Rule of Evidence 403; and (5) the trial court abused its discretion by admitting “jail 

phone calls containing hearsay without a proper business-records exception.” We will 

affirm.
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I. Background

In 2007, when A.S. (Anne)1 was eight years old, she and her mother began 

living with Rojas. Rojas was Anne’s mother’s boyfriend and was a father figure to 

Anne. She considered Rojas to be her stepfather and called him “Dad.”

One morning soon after Anne and her mother had moved in, Rojas woke up 

Anne by touching her over her clothes. Rojas then pulled down Anne’s pajama pants 

and underwear, got on top of her, and rubbed his penis on her vagina until he 

ejaculated. Rojas committed this and similar acts about 40 times over the next year or 

two. Sometimes he touched Anne’s vagina with his hand, and on one occasion, he had 

Anne touch his penis with her hand.

In late 2008 or early 2009, one of Rojas’s biological daughters, C.R. (Claire), 

who was then 16 years old, moved in with Rojas, Anne’s mother, and Anne. Claire 

accused Rojas of sexually assaulting her in spring 2009. Soon after the alleged assault,

Claire was interviewed by Lindsey Dula, a forensic interviewer with Alliance for 

Children.

Claire’s accusation led CPS to remove then-nine-year-old Anne from the home 

and to interview her. Anne denied any abuse. CPS made a finding of “unable to 

determine,” and Anne was returned to the home.

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We use aliases to protect the identities of those involved in this case who were 

minors at the time the offenses were committed. See Tex. R. App. P. 9.8 cmt., 

9.10(a)(3).
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For a time, Rojas stopped sexually abusing Anne. When the abuse resumed, its 

frequency increased, and in addition to Rojas’s rubbing his penis on Anne’s vagina, 

Rojas would perform oral sex on her. Around this time, Anne began physically 

resisting Rojas’s advances, leading him to start sexually abusing Anne at knifepoint.

Anne quickly stopped fighting back, and Rojas eventually stopped threatening

her with a knife. But the sexual abuse continued. Rojas began putting his penis in 

Anne’s mouth. And starting when Anne was a freshman in high school, Rojas forced

Anne to have sexual intercourse with him nearly every day.

Around this time, Anne started feeling like she was in a romantic relationship

with Rojas. They used endearments with each other, and she would send him nude 

photographs of herself, loving text messages, and greeting cards. At the same time, 

however, Anne’s journal entries were filled with fear, depression, and suicidal 

thoughts. At least one entry directly mentioned Rojas’s abuse:

I want to live with my sisters but I can’t. I know I can’t because they will 

call the cops, and I’ll be right back here and have a worse life. . . . I feel 

like his fucking sex toy that all he wants from me since I was eight. I 

wish he would have killed me when I was 12 when he used to bring 

knives into my room. He should have killed me. He should have stopped 

when I told him to.

On June 25, 2018, Rojas had sexual intercourse with then-18-year-old Anne.

Later that day, Anne met with two of her friends and told them that Rojas had 

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The Arlington Police Department investigated Claire’s accusations in 2009.

The case was eventually “rendered inactive” or “pended,” and Rojas was not arrested 

or prosecuted.
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sexually abused her for years. Anne then immediately told her two sisters about the 

abuse, and one of them called the police. That same day, Anne went to the Grand 

Prairie Police Department where she was interviewed by then-Detective Greg Parker.

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Late that night, Anne went to a hospital where a sexual-assault nurse examiner

(SANE) examined her.

Rojas was arrested. After his arrest, Anne and her sisters returned to Rojas’s 

home and retrieved her journals from their hiding place. One of Anne’s sisters told 

Detective Parker about the journals, and he photocopied the journals’ pages.

Rojas was concerned about Anne’s journals. While he was in the Grand Prairie 

jail awaiting trial, he spoke with family members (not Anne or Claire) using the jail’s 

telephone system, which recorded all inmate telephone calls. During one of these 

calls, Rojas asked his daughter whether Anne had taken “those little booklets that she 

would use to write stuff.” He admitted that Anne’s journals contained “evidence”

about him because Anne would “write everything down” and that the journals would 

“say . . . that [he] did those things.” Rojas also admitted to his daughter that he and 

Anne had been “having relations” but claimed that it was at Anne’s insistence.

During Detective Parker’s investigation, he learned about Claire’s 

2009 accusations against Rojas and that the Arlington Police Department had not 

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At the time of trial, Parker was a patrol sergeant with the Grand Prairie Police 

Department.
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pursued the case. After interviewing Claire, Detective Parker filed another case against 

Rojas based on her allegations.

The case involving Anne as the complainant was tried to a jury in February

2022. By this time, Anne was 22 years old, and Claire was 29. Both women testified 

about Rojas’s abuse. Additionally, the jury heard testimony from, among others, the 

SANE; Detective Parker, who testified about his investigation; and Dula, who

testified as an expert on child-abuse dynamics. Anne’s journal entries and recordings 

of Rojas’s jail calls were admitted into evidence. Rojas’s defense witnesses included his 

wife (from whom he had long been separated); his sister; and one of his other 

daughters. All three women testified that Rojas had never sexually abused them, that 

their children had never claimed to have been abused by him, and that they had no

concerns about his being around their children.

The jury was charged on

• continuous sexual abuse of a young child (paragraph 1);

• lesser-included offenses of the continuous-sexual-abuse offense alleged 

in paragraph 1: aggravated sexual assault of a child (paragraphs 2 and 3)

and indecency with a child (paragraph 4);

• aggravated sexual assault of a child (paragraph 6);

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• sexual assault of a child (paragraphs 7 & 8); and

• prohibited sexual contact (paragraph 9).

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The charge contained no paragraph 5.
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The jury found Rojas guilty of continuous sexual abuse of a young child

(paragraph 1); aggravated sexual assault of a child (paragraph 6); sexual assault of a 

child (paragraphs 7 & 8); and prohibited sexual contact (paragraph 9). The jury

assessed Rojas’s punishment at 40 years’ incarceration for paragraph 1; 30 years’

incarceration for paragraph 6; and 10 years’ incarceration for each of paragraphs 7, 8, 

and 9. The trial court sentenced Rojas accordingly.

Rojas timely filed and presented a motion for new trial and then timely filed

and presented an amended new-trial motion. See Tex. R. App. P. 21.4, 21.6. The 

motion was deemed denied. See Tex. R. App. P. 21.8(c).

II. The Trial Court’s Oral Response to a Jury Note

During the jury’s guilt–innocence deliberations, the trial court orally responded 

to a written jury note. In Rojas’s first point, he complains that the trial court’s 

“substantive [oral] response to a jury’s question during deliberations amounts to an 

additional or supplemental jury instruction.” He complains that not only did the trial 

court violate the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure’s prohibition against orally 

instructing the jury during deliberations but that the trial court improperly commented 

on the weight of the evidence when doing so. See Tex. Code Crim. Proc. Ann. arts. 

36.14, 36.27, 38.05. We start by recounting the trial court’s comments and their 

context. We will next address whether Rojas preserved his complaints for our review. 

Finally, we will address the merits of Rojas’s complaints as necessary.
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A. The trial court’s comments and their context

While deliberating, the jury sent out a note: “If we are unable to agree on

[paragraphs] 1, 2 & 3, are we able to move on to the rest ([paragraphs] 4, 6, 7, 8, 9)[?]

What happens if we can(not) agree unanimously on [paragraphs] 1, 2 & 3?” 

In open court, with the State, Rojas, and the jury present, the trial court orally 

responded, “I have reviewed your note and received your note. Here are your verdict 

forms. They will give you a progressive order of what you should do with your 

verdicts and the application paragraphs.” The trial court then read from application 

paragraph 1 in the verdict forms:

If you find -- in paragraph 1, if you find the defendant guilty of 

continuous sexual abuse of a young child or children, stop here and only

consider application paragraphs 6, 7, 8, or 9 and do not consider

application paragraphs 2, 3, or 4.

If you find the defendant not guilty of continuous sexual abuse of 

a young child or children, or if you are unable to unanimously agree,[5]

please proceed to application paragraphs 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, and 9.

The trial court concluded by saying, “I believe the answer to your question is within 

the application paragraph 1 of your jury instructions.” 

Neither Rojas nor the State objected to the trial court’s response to the jury’s 

note.

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As the State points out, this language comported with the law in place at the 

time of trial, but the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals has recently held that “a jury 

must be required to agree on an acquittal of the greater offense before it can return a 

conviction on a lesser-included offense.” Sandoval v. State, 665 S.W.3d 496, 537 (Tex. 

Crim. App. 2022).
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B. Error preservation

Rojas frames the first part of this point as jury-charge error, complaining about

both the trial court’s procedure in answering the jury’s question and the substance of 

that answer. Article 36.14 of the Code of Criminal Procedure requires the trial court 

to “deliver to the jury . . . a written charge distinctly setting forth the law applicable to 

the case” that does “not express[ ] any opinion as to the weight of the evidence.” Id.

art. 36.14. After deliberations have begun, Article 36.27 permits the jury to 

communicate with the trial court in writing and requires the trial court to “answer any 

such communication in writing.” Id. art. 36.27. “When the trial court responds 

substantively to a question the jury asks during deliberations, that communication

essentially amounts to a supplemental jury instruction, and the trial court must follow 

the same rules for impartiality and neutrality that generally govern jury instructions.” 

Lucio v. State, 353 S.W.3d 873, 875 (Tex. Crim. App. 2011). But a communication from 

the trial court in response to a jury question that merely refers the jury to the original 

charge is not considered a supplemental instruction subject to the dictates applicable 

to a jury charge. Earnhart v. State, 582 S.W.2d 444, 449–50 (Tex. Crim. App. [Panel 

Op.] 1979); Daugherty v. State, No. 02-13-00312-CR, 2014 WL 1087931, at *3 (Tex. 

App.—Fort Worth Mar. 20, 2014, pet. ref’d) (per curiam) (mem. op., not designated 

for publication). 

Rojas admits that he did not object to the trial court’s “oral jury instruction” 

and thus concedes that he did not preserve his charge-error complaint. He 
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nevertheless argues that he was not required to do so and that the trial court’s 

comments should result in reversal under Almanza because the trial court’s error 

resulted in egregious harm. See Almanza v. State, 686 S.W.2d 157, 171 (Tex. Crim. App. 

1985) (op. on reh’g) (establishing standard of review for jury-charge error and holding

that unobjected-to jury instruction should be reviewed for egregious harm). 

Alternatively, he argues that he preserved error by raising his charge-error complaint 

in his new-trial motion. We reject these arguments for several reasons.

First, although Article 36.27’s procedures are mandatory, “it is incumbent upon 

a defendant to bring the easily correctable error to the judge’s attention by objection 

or formal bill of exception or the acts of the trial court are presumed consistent with 

the statute.” Smith v. State, 513 S.W.2d 823, 829 (Tex. Crim. App. 1974). A defendant 

must timely object to preserve a complaint that a trial court’s oral instructions did not 

comply with Article 36.27’s procedures. See Edwards v. State, 558 S.W.2d 452, 454 (Tex. 

Crim. App. 1977); Revell v. State, 885 S.W.2d 206, 211 (Tex. App.—Dallas 1994, pet. 

ref’d); cf. Word v. State, 206 S.W.3d 646, 651–52 (Tex. Crim. App. 2006) (explaining

that a defendant must preserve error by timely objecting to the trial court’s failure to 

follow the correct statutory procedures in responding to a jury communication); Green

v. State, 912 S.W.2d 189, 192 (Tex. Crim. App. 1995) (concluding that because 

defendant did not object to trial court’s response to jury question, he “present[ed]

nothing for review”). Not only is a defendant required to timely object to a trial 
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court’s failing to follow Article 36.27’s procedures to preserve a complaint for our 

review, but “the Almanza standard is inapplicable.” Green, 912 S.W.2d at 193.

Second, regarding the substance of the trial court’s oral instruction, the 

comments merely referred the jury to the already-given charge and thus “did not 

[themselves] constitute a ‘charge’ supplemental or otherwise.” Holberg v. State, 

38 S.W.3d 137, 141 (Tex. Crim. App. 2000) (citing Earnhart, 582 S.W.2d at 449–50); 

see Earnhart, 582 S.W.2d at 450 (“A referral to the original charge is not considered an 

additional instruction.”). Almanza’s holding relating to jury-charge errors thus does 

not apply here. See Holberg, 38 S.W.3d at 141. 

Third, Rojas’s raising this argument in his new-trial motion did not preserve this 

complaint for our review. To preserve a complaint for our review, a party must have 

presented to the trial court a timely request, objection, or motion sufficiently stating 

the specific grounds, if not apparent from the context, for the desired ruling. Tex. R. 

App. P. 33.1(a)(1); Montelongo v. State, 623 S.W.3d 819, 822 (Tex. Crim. App. 2021). A 

new-trial motion may preserve error if an appellant did not have the opportunity to 

object at trial. See Lopez v. State, 96 S.W.3d 406, 414 (Tex. App.—Austin 2002, pet. 

ref’d). Here, however, Rojas could have objected but did not. His new-trial motion 

thus did not preserve error. See id. (stating that “[t]he use of a motion for new trial to 

preserve error is . . . limited to the rare circumstances . . . when there is no 

opportunity to object”). 
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We thus conclude that Rojas failed to preserve his Article 36.27-based

complaints and that Almanza does not apply.6 We now turn to whether Rojas 

preserved the second part of his first point—whether the trial court’s oral comments 

violated Article 38.05’s prohibition against improper judicial comments.

Most complaints, “whether constitutional, statutory, or otherwise, are forfeited 

by failure to comply with Rule 33.1(a).” Mendez v. State, 138 S.W.3d 334, 342 (Tex. 

Crim. App. 2004); see Henderson v. United States, 568 U.S. 266, 271, 133 S. Ct. 1121, 

1126 (2013); Henson v. State, 407 S.W.3d 764, 767 (Tex. Crim. App. 2013). But Rule

33.1 “does not apply to rights which are waivable only or to absolute systemic 

requirements, the violation of which may still be raised for the first time on appeal.”

State v. Dunbar, 297 S.W.3d 777, 780 (Tex. Crim. App. 2009); see Peyronel v. State, 

465 S.W.3d 650, 652 (Tex. Crim. App. 2015); Grado v. State, 445 S.W.3d 736, 738–

39 (Tex. Crim. App. 2014); Reyes v. State, 361 S.W.3d 222, 229 (Tex. App.—Fort 

Worth 2012, pet. ref’d). A waivable-only right cannot be forfeited—it “cannot be 

surrendered by mere inaction” but is waivable only “if the waiver is affirmatively, 

plainly, freely, and intelligently made.” Grado, 445 S.W.3d at 739. “[A] trial judge has 

an independent duty to implement [a waivable-only right] absent any request unless 

there is an effective express waiver.” Id.

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Even if Almanza did apply here, we find no egregious harm because the trial 

court read the instruction contained in the jury’s verdict forms. 
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One such waivable-only right is the right to a trial free of improper judicial 

comments. Proenza v. State, 541 S.W.3d 786, 797–801 (Tex. Crim. App. 2017). Article 

38.05 forbids a trial judge from commenting on the weight of the evidence or 

otherwise divulging to the jury his opinion of the case: 

In ruling upon the admissibility of evidence, the judge shall not discuss 

or comment upon the weight of the same or its bearing in the case, but 

shall simply decide whether or not it is admissible; nor shall he, at any 

stage of the proceeding previous to the return of the verdict, make any 

remark calculated to convey to the jury his opinion of the case.

Tex. Code Crim. Proc. Ann. art. 38.05. Rojas contends that the trial court violated

Article 38.05 by “redirect[ing] the jury back to paragraph 1” in telling the jury that the 

trial court “believed the answer” to the jury’s question was in that paragraph, thus 

improperly commenting on the weight of the evidence. See id.

The right to trial free of improper judicial comments under Article 38.05 is a 

waivable-only right, so Rojas could forfeit that right only through an express waiver. 

See Proenza, 541 S.W.3d at 797–801. Because the record does not show such a wavier, 

Rojas did not forfeit this statutory complaint and may urge it for the first time on 

appeal. See id. at 801.

C. Analysis

 Rojas points to the last part of Article 38.05, which provides that a trial judge 

should not, “at any stage of the proceeding previous to the return of the verdict, make 

any remark calculated to convey to the jury his opinion of the case.” Tex. Code Crim. 

Proc. Ann. art. 38.05; see Brown v. State, 122 S.W.3d 794, 798 & n.8 (Tex. Crim. App.
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2003) (explaining that “a trial judge must . . . refrain from making any remark 

calculated to convey to the jury his opinion of the case” because jurors may give 

special and peculiar weight to the trial court’s language and conduct). By creating “a 

duty on the trial court . . . to refrain sua sponte from a certain kind of action,” Proenza, 

541 S.W.3d at 798, Article 38.05 provides the defendant with “the right to be tried in 

a proceeding devoid of improper judicial commentary,” id. at 801.

A “trial court improperly comments on the weight of the evidence if it makes a 

statement that implies approval of the State’s argument, indicates disbelief in the 

defense’s position, or diminishes the credibility of the defense’s approach to the case.”

Simon v. State, 203 S.W.3d 581, 590 (Tex. App.—Houston [14th Dist.] 2006, no pet.).

But not “every unscripted judicial comment in fact disrupts the proper functioning of 

the judicial system.” Proenza, 541 S.W.3d at 800. If an appellant challenges a trial 

court’s comment that is “errorless or insignificant in the context of a particular trial,” 

then that challenge can be “denied on its merits or else declared harmless.” Id.

Rojas complains that the trial court’s comments directing the jury to paragraph

1 “left the impression the [trial] court wanted them to reach a unanimous finding of 

guilt” on paragraph 1 (the continuous-sexual-abuse charge) instead of considering the 

lesser-included offenses charged in paragraphs 2, 3, and 4. Rojas argues that by 

making these comments, the trial court “specifically directed the jury to the most

crucial issue in the case” and “signaled the court’s approval of the [S]tate’s argument 

and diminished that of the defense.” We disagree.
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The trial court pointed the jury to the verdict forms, read a paragraph from 

application paragraph 1 in the verdict forms, and then referred back to that paragraph. 

In doing so, the trial court did not imply approval of the State’s argument, indicate 

disbelief in Rojas’s position, or diminish the credibility of Rojas’s approach to the 

case. It merely pointed the jury to the instruction in the verdict form relevant to its 

questions and read it to the jury. We thus hold that the trial court’s comments were

errorless under Article 38.05. See id. But even if it was error, it was insignificant when 

considered in the context of the entire trial because, again, the trial court merely read 

the relevant jury instruction from the verdict form. See id. Accordingly, we overrule 

Rojas’s first point. 

III. Rojas’s Evidentiary Complaints

Rojas’s remaining points challenge the trial court’s evidentiary rulings regarding 

the admission of Dula’s expert testimony (second and third points), extraneousoffense evidence (fourth point), and recordings of Rojas’s jailhouse telephone calls

(fifth point). We review a trial court’s evidentiary rulings for an abuse of discretion. 

Johnson v. State, 490 S.W.3d 895, 908 (Tex. Crim. App. 2016). We will not reverse an 

evidentiary ruling unless it is outside the zone of reasonable disagreement. Tillman v.

State, 354 S.W.3d 425, 435 (Tex. Crim. App. 2011). If the ruling is correct under any 

applicable theory of law, we will affirm it regardless of the trial court’s reason for the 

ruling. See Johnson, 490 S.W.3d at 908. 
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We address Rojas’s fourth point first because doing so aids in our disposition 

of the appeal. We will then address his second and third points together and will 

conclude by addressing his fifth point.

A. The Extraneous-Offense Evidence

Rojas’s fourth point challenges the trial court’s admission of extraneous-offense

evidence under Code of Criminal Procedure Article 38.37 regarding his sexually

abusing Claire. Rojas argues that the trial court abused its direction by overruling his

Rule 403 objection to Claire’s testimony and by allowing her to testify because the 

danger of unfair prejudice substantially outweighed that evidence’s probative value. 

1. Applicable law 

Rule 404(b)(1) disallows evidence of crimes, wrongs, or other acts solely to

prove a person’s character to show that the person acted in conformity with that 

character on a particular occasion.

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 Tex. R. Evid. 404(b)(1). Such extraneous-offense 

evidence is statutorily admissible, however, in certain types of child-sex-abuse cases, 

including continuous-sexual-abuse cases. See Tex. Code Crim. Proc. Ann. art. 38.37, 

§ 2. In such cases, “[n]otwithstanding Rules 404 and 405,” evidence that a defendant 

has committed a separate such sexual offense against a child may be admitted “for any 

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But this evidence may be admissible for other purposes, “such as proving 

motive, opportunity, intent, preparation, plan, knowledge, identity, absence of

mistake, or lack of accident.” Tex. R. Evid. 404(b)(2).
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bearing the evidence has on relevant matters, including the character of the defendant

and acts performed in conformity with the character of the defendant.” Id. § 2(b). 

But even if extraneous-offense evidence is relevant and admissible under 

Article 38.37, that evidence can nevertheless be excluded under Rule 403 if the danger 

of unfair prejudice substantially outweighs the evidence’s probative value. See Wells v.

State, 558 S.W.3d 661, 669 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth 2017, pet. ref’d); Martin v. State, 

176 S.W.3d 887, 895 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth 2005, no pet.); see also Tex. R. Evid. 

403. Recognizing that trial courts are best positioned to gauge the impact of the 

evidence, we measure the trial court’s ruling against the Rule 403 balancing criteria: 

(1) the inherent probative force of the evidence along with (2) the State’s need for the 

evidence against (3) any tendency of the evidence to suggest a decision on an

improper basis, (4) any tendency of the evidence to confuse or distract the jury from 

the main issues, (5) any tendency of the evidence to be given undue weight by a jury 

that has not been equipped to evaluate the probative force of the evidence, and (6) the 

likelihood that presentation of the evidence will consume an inordinate amount of 

time or merely repeat evidence already admitted. See Gigliobianco v. State, 210 S.W.3d 

637, 641–42 (Tex. Crim. App 2006). 

2. Analysis

When the State offered Claire’s testimony at trial, Rojas argued that the trial

court was required to hold a hearing to determine whether that evidence satisfied

Article 38.37’s requirements. See Tex. Code Crim. Proc. Ann. art. 38.37. The State
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read to the trial court its extraneous-offense notice regarding Rojas’s prior actions

toward Claire, including his grooming her, masturbating in front her, touching her 

inappropriately, and sexually assaulting her in 2009. Rojas objected that this testimony

was more prejudicial than probative, and the trial court overruled that objection.8

Claire, who was raised by her mother and stepfather, went on to testify that she 

did not meet Rojas until she was ten years old. When she was about 12 years old, 

Rojas began spending time with her regularly, and he would take her to a lake, where 

they would sit alone in his truck. On five or six occasions, while they were sitting 

there, Rojas used the reflective side of a compact disc to look up Claire’s skirt and 

masturbate. Rojas twice tried to touch Claire’s thigh and breasts, but she told him to 

stop. He apologized but continued masturbating. 

At Claire’s insistence, Rojas stopped taking her to the lake. He apologized for 

his behavior and promised that he would never do it again. At some point, Claire 

wrote a letter to her mother and stepfather telling them about Rojas’s behavior. They 

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Rojas complains that the trial court “made no meaningful [Rule] 403 weighing 

of the evidence as required by the law.” A trial court must conduct a balancing test 

upon a Rule 403 objection. Santellan v. State, 939 S.W.2d 155, 173 (Tex. Crim. App. 

1997) But a trial court is not required to perform the balancing test on the record, and 

when the record is silent, we presume that the trial court performed the appropriate 

balancing test before admitting the evidence. James v. State, 623 S.W.3d 533, 551 (Tex. 

App.—Fort Worth 2021, no pet.) (citing Williams v. State, 958 S.W.2d 186, 195–

96 (Tex. Crim. App. 1997); Jackson v. State, 424 S.W.3d 140, 155 (Tex. App.—

Texarkana 2014, pet. ref’d)).
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questioned her in Rojas’s presence. She denied that Rojas had done anything to her.

Rojas stopped behaving inappropriately.

When Claire was about 15 or 16 years old, she dropped out of school and 

moved in with Rojas, Anne, and Anne’s mother. Claire became pregnant in January 

2009.9 In April 2009, then-16-year-old Claire was showering and looked up to see 

Rojas peering over the shower curtain at her.10 After she toweled off and dressed,

Rojas pushed her onto a bed, removed her pants, unzipped his pants, and raped her.

Afterwards, Claire dressed and ran to her mother’s house. She did not immediately tell 

her mother what had happened because she was ashamed. But when Claire learned 

that she had a sexually transmitted disease, she was forced to reveal what had 

happened, and she and her mother called the police. 

“Rule 403 favors the admission of relevant evidence and carries a presumption 

that relevant evidence will be more probative than prejudicial.” Shuffield v. State, 

189 S.W.3d 782, 787 (Tex. Crim. App. 2006). It is Rojas’s burden to overcome this 

presumption and to demonstrate that the probative value of the evidence is 

substantially outweighed by the danger of unfair prejudice or of misleading the jury.

See Wells, 558 S.W.3d at 669. We conclude that Rojas failed to overcome this 

presumption.

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Claire’s child was born in July 2009. On cross-examination, Rojas’s attorney 

clarified with Claire that Rojas is not the child’s father.

10This wasn’t the first time Rojas had spied on Claire in the shower.
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First and foremost, Anne’s credibility was vital to the State’s case. Rojas had 

continually abused her for years, but she had delayed making an outcry. Rojas attacked

Anne’s failing to report the abuse earlier, the veracity of her journal entries, and her

failing to defend herself—at the age of 12—by taking the knife from Rojas while he 

was sexually abusing her at knifepoint. His wife, sister, and one of his daughters 

testified that Rojas had never sexually abused them or their children. And although 

the remoteness of the extraneous-offense evidence significantly lessened its probative 

value, see Newton v. State, 301 S.W.3d 315, 320 (Tex. App.—Waco 2009, pet. ref’d), 

factors one (the evidence’s inherent probative force) and two (the State’s need for the 

evidence) still weighed in favor of admission, see id. (holding that while extraneousoffense evidence was remote, it was nevertheless probative and that the State’s need 

for such evidence was “considerable” when there were no eyewitnesses and no

physical evidence available to corroborate child-sex-abuse complainant’s testimony).

And, as Rojas admits, the State’s presentation of Claire’s testimony was not repetitive

nor did it take up an inordinate amount of time during the three-and-a-half-day, guilt–

innocence portion of the trial, so factor six (the likelihood that the evidence’s 

presentation will take an inordinate amount of time or merely repeat evidence already 

admitted) also weighs in favor of admission. See Wells, 558 S.W.3d at 669. 

The remaining third, fourth, and fifth factors also do not show that the 

probative value of Claire’s testimony about Rojas’s prior sexual abuse was 

substantially outweighed by its prejudicial effect or by some tendency to mislead the 
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jury. Although Claire’s testimony about Rojas’s past sexual behavior with her was 

prejudicial, it was not unfairly so. Indeed, its prejudicial nature arises from the fact 

that it was especially probative of Rojas’s propensity to prey on similarly aged female 

family members. See id. We see no indication that Claire’s testimony confused or 

distracted the jury from the main issues in the case, suggested a decision on an 

improper basis, or was given undue weight because the jury was ill equipped to 

evaluate its probative force. See id.

The trial court’s admission of Claire’s testimony regarding Rojas’s past sexual 

abuse was not an abuse of its discretion. We overrule Rojas’s fourth point.

B. The Forensic Interviewer’s Expert Testimony

Rojas’s second and third points challenge the trial court’s admission of Dula’s 

expert testimony. In his second point, Rojas argues that the trial court abused its 

discretion by allowing Dula—a forensic interviewer who had interviewed Claire in 

2009 and had reviewed videos of Detective Parker’s interviews with Claire and 

Anne—to give expert testimony about Anne’s and Claire’s truthfulness and veracity. 

Rojas argues in his third point that Dula’s testimony about the interviews’ contents 

was inadmissible “backdoor hearsay” and that the trial court thus abused its discretion 

by allowing that testimony. Because both of these points involve Dula’s testimony, we 

will discuss them together. But we first address whether Rojas has preserved his

complaints for our review.
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1. Error preservation

The State contends that Rojas failed to preserve his truth-and-veracity-opinions

complaint because his appellate complaint on this point does not comport with his 

trial objections. See Lovill v. State, 319 S.W.3d 687, 691–92 (Tex. Crim. App. 2009) (“A 

complaint will not be preserved if the legal basis of the complaint raised on appeal 

varies from the complaint made at trial.”); Pena v State, 285 S.W.3d 459, 464 (Tex. 

Crim. App. 2009) (“Whether a party’s particular complaint is preserved depends on 

whether the complaint on appeal comports with the complaint made at trial.”).

Here, outside the jury’s presence, the State proffered Dula as an expert on 

child-abuse dynamics. Rojas agreed that she was a qualified expert in this area but 

stated, “I will make an objection when the time comes if she offers impressions or any 

information gained during any of those forensic interviews.” Rojas also argued that 

Dula’s testimony regarding the interviews’ contents would be backdoor hearsay and

asked the trial court to limit Dula’s testimony so “that impermissible hearsay cannot 

be brought out in front of the jury.” The trial court responded,

I -- I tend to agree with that, but I -- I’ll even make this easier for you. 

I’ll limit the scope of this witness to her opinion, but I won’t let her 

interject facts of opinions that she didn’t know that -- that she wasn’t 

there. I’ll let her have a -- she can -- she can make an opinion as to whether an

assault occurred. She can make her opinion as to truthfulness, veracity of whoever she 

interviewed or watched. She can go into her training and schooling. The 

ultimate issue of -- of what, when, and where if she’s -- didn’t -- if she 

wasn’t on-site or didn’t do a forensic interview, I -- I’m probably not

going to let her testify as to what happened.

. . . .
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Well, she’s a -- she can base her opinion on whatever she based her 

opinion on. She watched videos or read reports. I mean, that’s part of

her deal, but she’s not going to be able to repeat it verbatim. She can --

you can ask her what she based her opinion on and how she got her 

opinion. You can cross-examine her about it. And when -- she can go 

into outcry, if there was an outcry. I don’t -- I don’t know what this 

witness is going to say. She can go and watch -- she watched it on a 

videotape, but -- but that’s-- she can say that’s what she based her 

opinion on as far as, you know, factually specific. Stuff, if she’s not there, 

she’s not there. But she can still base an expert opinion on -- without 

being there. She can actually base an -- she can -- she can have an expert

opinion as to credibility, as to truth, veracity. You get to cross-examine her 

about it. It’s not bolstering when she’s an expert opinion in the field. [Emphases 

added.]

To preserve a complaint for our review, a party must have presented to the trial 

court a timely request, objection, or motion sufficiently stating the specific grounds, if 

not apparent from the context, for the desired ruling. Tex. R. App. P. 33.1(a)(1); 

Montelongo, 623 S.W.3d at 822. “The two main purposes of requiring a specific 

objection are to inform the trial judge of the basis of the objection so that he has an 

opportunity to rule on it and to allow opposing counsel to remedy the error.” Clark v. 

State, 365 S.W.3d 333, 339 (Tex. Crim. App. 2012); Resendez v. State, 306 S.W.3d 308, 

312 (Tex. Crim. App. 2009). Although an objection must be specific, preservation

does not require “magic language” but turns only on whether the trial court 

understood the basis of the objection. Vasquez v. State, 483 S.W.3d 550, 554 (Tex. 

Crim. App. 2016); State v. Rosseau, 396 S.W.3d 550, 555 (Tex. Crim. App. 2013). 

Further, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals has cautioned intermediate appellate 

courts against engaging in a “hyper-technical” parsing of an objection’s specificity in 
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determining preservation. Vasquez, 483 S.W.3d at 554; Everitt v. State, 407 S.W.3d 259,

263 (Tex. Crim. App. 2013).

Given these principles and the context of Rojas objection, we conclude that the 

parties and the trial court understood that the basis for Rojas’s “impressions”

objection encompassed Dula’s opinions about Anne’s and Claire’s truth and veracity, 

and that the trial court overruled that objection. We thus conclude that because

Rojas’s appellate complaint comports with his trial-court complaint, he has preserved 

this complaint—as well as his backdoor-hearsay complaint—for our review. See Clark, 

365 S.W.3d at 339; Resendez, 306 S.W.3d at 313; Pena, 285 S.W.3d at 464.

2. Dula’s testimony

Dula, who was the State’s final witness, is the current Director of Program 

Services at Alliance for Children and has testified as a child-abuse-dynamics expert

many times over the past 20 years. She explained that children commonly delay 

disclosing abuse and commonly deny abuse when directly asked. Dula testified 

generally about how perpetrators engage in grooming behavior, manipulation, and 

blackmail. She also testified about coping mechanisms children use to deal with 

chronic abuse.

Dula testified that the forensic-interview process is designed to reduce the risk 

of suggestibility or coaching by facilitating a free narrative by the child in which the

child has the ability to describe sensory and peripheral details and to correct the 

interviewer. Dula explained “suggestibility” as “the idea that if somebody says 
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something to a child that didn’t take place, that children aren’t strong enough or don’t 

have the ability to say, ‘No, that’s not true. This is what happened.’” She further 

explained that “coaching” can be either “a child being told to say something that did 

not happen” or a perpetrator “telling a child not to say something.”

Dula testified that she had conducted Claire’s forensic interview in 2009 and 

had watched videos of Detective Parker’s interviews with Anne and Claire. Although 

Detective Parker’s version of a forensic interview with Anne was not “to the level that 

[Dula] and her employees would conduct it,” Dula saw no “red flags or any signs of 

coaching” in Detective Parker’s interview of Anne. According to Dula, Anne gave 

sensory and peripheral details and corrected Detective Parker. Dula described Anne as 

being “very narrative at different portions of the interview” and as being tearful and 

crying at other portions. Dula’s only criticism of the interview was that she thought 

that “more information . . . could have been obtained, but it was nowhere near 

concerning or rising to suggestibility or coaching” on Detective Parker’s part.

Dula had similar opinions about Detective Parker’s interview with Claire. There

were no signs of coaching by Detective Parker or of suggestibility regarding the acts 

of abuse Claire had reported. Like Anne, Claire had sensory and peripheral details and

corrected Detective Parker.

From that interview, Dula learned that Claire had denied the abuse when she 

was confronted by her parents and Rojas, but the denial didn’t surprise Dula because 

Rojas was there when Claire was questioned. Dula was also unsurprised to learn that 
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Claire had decided to go live with Rojas after having been sexually abused by him. 

Dula was similarly not surprised that Anne had denied any abuse when CPS had 

interviewed her at the time of its investigation into Claire’s allegations. 

Based on her review of both interviews, Dula concluded that there were 

“similarities between the sexual abuse both girls suffered” because they reported 

similar acts of abuse, manipulation, and grooming by Rojas. At the end of her 

testimony, the State asked Dula whether it was her job to “show up and testify as a lie

detector.” She responded, “No,” and stated that her job was to assist in investigations 

as a “specialized resource for our investigators who make the decisions.” On crossexamination, Dula confirmed that she did not know whether Anne’s and Claire’s 

allegations were true and conceded that she had “no way of knowing” whether they 

were true. She also testified that she could not tell the difference between a true 

outcry and a false outcry. On re-direct, Dula testified that her report from Claire’s 

2009 forensic interview showed that Dula had circled “consistent with that of abuse” 

in the interview-summary section of the interview form. 

3. Truth-and-veracity opinions

Expert testimony does not assist the jury and is thus inadmissible if it 

constitutes “a direct opinion on the truthfulness” of a child complainant’s allegations.

Yount v. State, 872 S.W.2d 706, 708 (Tex. Crim. App. 1993). The State therefore may 

not elicit expert testimony that a particular child is telling the truth or that child 

complainants as a class are worthy of belief. Id. at 711–12. Nor may an expert offer a 
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direct opinion on the truthfulness of a child complainant’s allegations. Schutz v. State, 

957 S.W.2d 52, 59 (Tex. Crim. App. 1997).

An expert can, however, testify about coaching and manipulation in general 

and whether a child exhibited signs of coaching or manipulation. See id. at 73; Cantu v.

State, 366 S.W.3d 771, 777 (Tex. App.—Amarillo 2012, no pet.); see also Gonzales v. 

State, Nos. 03-13-00333-CR, 03-13-00334-CR, 2015 WL 3691180, at *4 (Tex. App.—

Austin June 11, 2015, no pet.) (mem. op., not designated for publication); Johnson v. 

State, No. 02-13-00482-CR, 2015 WL 1792971, at *3 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth Apr.

16, 2015, pet. ref’d) (mem. op., not designated for publication). An expert may also 

testify about behavioral characteristics that child-abuse victims commonly exhibit and 

opine whether a child’s behavior is consistent with those characteristics. See Yount, 

872 S.W.2d at 708–09; Cohn v. State, 849 S.W.2d 817, 818 (Tex. Crim. App. 1993); 

Shaw v. State, 329 S.W.3d 645, 651 (Tex. App.—Houston [14th Dist.] 2010, pet. ref’d). 

Here, Rojas complains that Dula’s opinions crossed the line into impermissible 

truth-and-veracity opinions and that the trial court abused its discretion by allowing 

Dula to testify directly and indirectly about Anne’s and Claire’s truthfulness. The State 

concedes that the trial court’s ruling that Dula could testify regarding a victim’s 

veracity or truthfulness is contrary to the law but maintains that Dula’s opinions did 

not cross the line into improper truth-and-veracity opinions. We mostly agree with the 

State. 
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The trial court did not abuse its discretion by allowing Dula to testify regarding

red flags, behavioral characteristics, manipulation, coaching, the girls’ describing

sensory and peripheral details, and the consistency between the girls’ interviews 

because such opinions were not direct comments upon the truth of Anne’s and 

Claire’s allegations. See Hernandez v. State, Nos. 02-16-00373-CR, 02-16-00374-CR, 

2018 WL 3764066, at *9 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth Aug. 9, 2018, pet. ref’d) (mem. op., 

not designated for publication). To the extent that the trial court abused its discretion 

by allowing Dula to testify that she had circled “consistent with that of abuse” on the 

interview form from her 2009 interview with Claire, see Salinas v. State, 166 S.W.3d

368, 371 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth 2005, pet. ref’d) (holding that expert’s testimony 

diagnosing sexual abuse based solely on the complaining witness’s self-reported 

history was an improper attempt to bolster the complaining witness’s credibility and a 

direct comment on her truthfulness), we conclude that such error did not affect 

Rojas’s substantial rights, see Tex. R. App. P. 44.2(b). That is, we are fairly assured 

from examining the record as a whole that the error did not influence the jury or that 

it had but a slight effect because the jury had already heard Claire’s testimony 

regarding Rojas’s sexually assaulting her. See Macedo v. State, 629 S.W.3d 237, 240 (Tex. 

Crim. App. 2021). We thus overrule Rojas’s second point. 

We next address Rojas’s third point—whether the trial court abused its 

discretion by overruling his objections to Dula’s testimony as backdoor hearsay.
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4. Backdoor hearsay 

Hearsay is a statement, other than one made by the declarant while testifying at 

a trial or hearing, offered into evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted. Tex. 

R. Evid. 801(d). Hearsay is inadmissible unless made admissible by statute or rule.

Tex. R. Evid. 802.

The hearsay rule may not be circumvented by inference or by eliciting the 

substance of the statement in indirect form. See Schaffer v. State, 777 S.W.2d 111, 113–

14 (Tex. Crim. App. 1989). Even if the out-of-court statement itself is not introduced, 

the hearsay rule may apply if the testimony allows the jury to ascertain the purport of 

the statement; this type of evidence is known as “backdoor hearsay.” Id. Whether 

testimony constitutes backdoor hearsay “turns on how strongly the content of the 

out-of-court statement can be inferred from the context.” Head v. State, 4 S.W.3d 258, 

261 & n.2 (Tex. Crim. App. 1999). The court must decide “whether the strength of 

the inference produces an ‘inescapable conclusion’ that the evidence is being offered 

to prove the substance of an out-of-court statement.” Id. at 262 (quoting Schaffer, 

777 S.W.2d at 114). Stated differently, backdoor hearsay exists when “‘the State’s sole

intent in pursuing [a] line of questioning is to convey to the jury’ the contents of the 

out-of-court statements.” Id. (quoting Schaffer, 777 S.W.2d at 114). 

Here, Dula did not reveal the substance of Anne’s and Claire’s interviews.

Rojas identifies as backdoor hearsay Dula’s testimony that Dula observed no red flags 

or any signs of coaching or suggestibility during the interviews, that Anne and Claire
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gave sensory and peripheral details, that Anne’s demeanor was “narrative,” and that 

Anne was tearful and appeared to be crying in her interview. Rojas also points to 

Dula’s testimony that the sexual abuse and grooming suffered by the girls was similar. 

This testimony merely characterized the victims’ responses without providing the 

substance of those responses. The trial court thus could have reasonably concluded 

that Dula’s testimony, “when taken in context, did not lead to any inescapable 

conclusions as to the substance of the out-of-court statements.” Id.; see Consuelo v.

State, No. 05-07-00848-CR, 2008 WL 3578594 at *6 (Tex. App.—Dallas Aug. 15, 

2008, pet. ref’d) (not designated for publication) (concluding that trial court did not 

abuse its discretion by admitting, over the defendant’s hearsay objection, a detective’s 

testimony confirming that complainant “had given detailed responses to questions 

about the assault in her forensic interview”).

Dula also testified that she had learned from a review of Claire’s interview with 

Detective Parker that Claire had denied the abuse when questioned by her parents in 

Rojas’s presence. Although this testimony revealed the contents of that interview, 

Claire herself had already testified that when her parents questioned her in Rojas’s 

presence, she had denied the abuse. It thus cannot be said that the State’s “sole 

intent” in asking Dula for her opinion on Claire’s denial was to convey to the jury the

contents of that out-of-court statement. See Head, 4 S.W.3d at 262. And because 

Dula’s testimony was cumulative of Claire’s testimony, any error in allowing Dula to 

give her opinion on that fact was harmless. See Matz v. State, 21 S.W.3d 911, 912–
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13 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth 2000, pet. ref’d) (op. on remand). We overrule Rojas’s 

third point.

C. The Recordings of Rojas’s Jailhouse Telephone Calls

In Rojas’s fifth point, he contends that the trial court abused its discretion by 

admitting over his hearsay objection recordings of telephone calls that he made from 

the Grand Prairie Jail. Rojas complains that the testimony of the sponsoring witness 

(Detective Parker) was inadequate to admit the recordings under the business-records 

exception to the hearsay rule. 

1. Applicable law

As noted, hearsay is inadmissible unless made admissible by statute or rule.

Tex. R. Evid. 802. One such rule is Rule 803(6), the so-called business-records 

exception, which allows the admission of “[a] record of an act, event, condition, 

opinion, or diagnosis” if

(A) the record was made at or near the time by—or from information 

transmitted by—someone with knowledge; 

(B) the record was kept in the course of a regularly conducted business 

activity;

(C) making the record was a regular practice of that activity;

(D) all these conditions are shown by the testimony of the custodian or 

another qualified witness . . . ; and

(E) the opponent fails to demonstrate that the source of information or 

the method or circumstances of preparation indicate a lack of 

trustworthiness.

Tex. R. Evid. 803(6).
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The term “business” under this rule “includes every kind of regular organized 

activity whether conducted for profit or not.” Tex. R. Evid. 803(6)(E). But “[w]hen a 

business receives information from a person who is outside the business and who has 

no business duty to report or to report accurately, those statements are not covered by 

the business records exception.” Garcia v. State, 126 S.W.3d 921, 926 (Tex. Crim. App. 

2004). Such statements must independently qualify for admissibility, such as an 

admission by a party opponent. Id. at 926–27; see Tex. R. Evid. 801(e)(2).

Either a records custodian or another qualified witness can lay the predicate for 

the admission of evidence under Rule 803(6). Bahena v. State, 634 S.W.3d 923, 

929 (Tex. Crim. App. 2021). “A custodian of records can be a qualified witness. But a 

qualified witness need not be a custodian of records.” Id.

2. Analysis

Here, Detective Parker with the Grand Prairie Police Department testified 

about the system—which is overseen by Securus Technologies, an outside 

company—that the Grand Prairie Police Department uses to record and screen 

outgoing inmate telephone calls. Detective Parker screens these calls as part of his 

work and investigations. It is a regular activity of the department to record these calls.

According to Detective Parker, incoming inmates are assigned a unique PIN 

code to use for each call. Before an inmate is allowed to make a call, he is required to 

read a prompt so that the system can create a voice print based on the prompt.
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When an inmate wants to make a call, he must enter his unique PIN code 

before dialing the telephone number. During the call, the inmate’s voice is continually

checked against the voice print connected with the PIN code used. The calls are 

contemporaneously recorded.

When a call ends, the recording is automatically uploaded to Securus’s servers, 

to which the Grand Prairie Police Department has access. Detective Parker can search 

by booking number, name, date of birth, and time period to find if calls were made 

and by whom. Detective Parker was thus able to locate recordings of Rojas’s

telephone calls. He testified that he had pulled some of those recordings from the 

server and put copies of them onto two discs. Those two discs were admitted into 

evidence and played for the jury while a translator translated the conversations from 

Spanish to English.

The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals recently determined that similar 

testimony from an officer with the Harris County Sheriff’s Office satisfied Rule

803(6)’s requirements for admission of inmate calls under the business-records 

exception. See id. at 925, 928–29; see also Bahena v. State, 604 S.W.3d 527, 538–39, 541–

43 (Tex. App.—Houston [14th Dist.] 2020) (Hassan, J., dissenting) (explaining that 

Harris County uses the Securus system to record and store inmate telephone calls), 

aff’d, 634 S.W.3d at 929. We thus conclude that Detective Parker’s testimony satisfied 

Rule 803(6)’s requirements. See Bahena, 634 S.W.3d at 928–29.
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Rojas also argues that the recordings’ contents were not covered by the 

business-records exception because he and his family members had no business duty 

to Securus. See Garcia, 126 S.W.3d at 926. Rojas’s statements in the phone calls in 

which he admitted to having a relationship with Anne and that Anne’s journals 

contained evidence against him were non-hearsay statements by a party opponent and 

were thus admissible. See Tex. R. Evid. 801(e)(2)(A); Acosta v. State, Nos. 02-13-00470-

CR, 02-13-00471-CR, 2015 WL 5893693, at *5 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth Oct. 8, 2015, 

no pet.) (mem. op., not designated for publication). As for Rojas’s family members’ 

statements, those statements were not hearsay because they were not admitted for the 

truth of the matters asserted but to place Rojas’s admissible responses into context for 

the jury. See Tex. R. Evid. 801(d)(2); Acosta, 2015 WL 5893693, at *5. 

In sum, we conclude that the trial court did not abuse its discretion by 

overruling Rojas’s objections and admitting into evidence the recordings of his

jailhouse telephone calls. We overrule Rojas’s fifth point.

IV. Conclusion

Having overruled Rojas’s five points, we affirm the trial court’s judgments.
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/s/ Elizabeth Kerr

Elizabeth Kerr

Justice

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Tex. R. App. P. 47.2(b)

Delivered: June 22, 2023